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random marlin
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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パンテル | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89553486
deep sapphire
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!hank

random marlin
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couldn’t use your own command

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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ピロリ菌 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97547885
modest moss
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I have never seen that error before, I would suggest asking in either #questions-and-help in case someone there has, if not I'd go ask in the goatcorp discord (they make the alternative launcher) and the link is in the next faq

hard drift
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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しろみ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/85527936
modest moss
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!faq steamdeck

opal pantherBOT
modest moss
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gdi bidori

hard drift
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😭

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not my fault people don't use the channels like they're supposed to /j

sly elk
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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milky | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92388489
hard drift
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!hank

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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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小颯猫 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/80280669
hard drift
royal forge
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Im watchin my work PC shit itself on launching chrome

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I've watched it try to load google drive for... 10 minutes

hard drift
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lmao wtf

royal forge
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Theres literally a script here to clear the cache

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Holy shit

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Task manager locked behind admin

hard drift
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lmfao rip your pc

royal forge
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Holy shit im using edge

hard drift
royal forge
hard drift
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LMAO

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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白モアイ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93170361
cerulean talon
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Aw. Headpat worthy.

lament crow
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Definitely would headpat

sly elk
cerulean talon
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Accurate tho.

deep sapphire
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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Mauve | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/85572830
sly elk
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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しそは | https://twitter.com/_sisoha/status/1458360184355442700
cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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ココ夏 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/72070444
royal forge
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I've managed to open chrome

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It has frozen on openin a google doc

cerulean talon
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Not gonna lie, 6ghz wifi is pretty slick.

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2gbit/sec over wifi is absurd, and I love it.

hard drift
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too bad consumer stuff is hit or miss still 😭

sly elk
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-lies to himself- the consumer stuff is fine just fine -too lazy to take his computer apart again-

sly elk
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if you end up in critical condition because you fell out of your vehicle, then your vehicle is too damn high!

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there are also a good deal more trucks than there are jeeps?

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see this is what i love about SUVs. You can do everything they do in a prius.

modest moss
cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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夏初瑾 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/91104082
wraith agate
cerulean talon
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Eh, rust and go fill different niches.

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I don't want go in my kernel, I don't want rust in my webapp. :p

wraith agate
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And nobody wants Carbon in either

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God I find articles like this hilarious

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Like no, Rust will not make that shit million legacy CPP applications go away

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Didn't do it 10 years ago, probably won't do it in another 10 either

cerulean talon
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Just like cobol, fortran and who knows what other legacy shit.

wraith agate
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There are still people out there actively developing PHP pages

cerulean talon
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Yes, I know several of them.

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There are people who are still choosing PHP as the lang for /new/ development too.

sly elk
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teehee

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i only use php for one thing

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that friggin ajax no-cross-domain-referencing rule haha

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i'm sure there's a better way

sly elk
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how odd

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it's e-atx and has only 2 pcie ports

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and a surprisingly small amount of rear i/o for $400

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but it does have power/reset buttons and a 7-segment display

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interesting

solid dirge
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Too many hanks in here.

sly elk
real edge
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"micro"

sly elk
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lmao the production process was probably measured in cm 😛

pale ridge
livid dune
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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天凪 | https://yande.re/post/show/557763
sly elk
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50% off! hahaha

livid dune
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450 dollars for a phone holder

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???

sly elk
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monitor holder?

livid dune
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What are they using to hold the monitor in place then?

wide hill
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apple sells also a vesa mount adapter

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Apple

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200 usd

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to be allowed to use a mount that is not made by apple

odd sand
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Precision tooled from virgin artisanal aluminum. Guaranteed free-trade.

umbral moss
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if there's one thing aluminum is not, it's "free trade" lmao

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alcoa is basically 100% of the market

sharp star
hard drift
cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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よしひろ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/76680405
cerulean talon
real edge
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catgirl nezuko

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cultured

hard drift
cerulean talon
odd sand
hard drift
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Bus width of a 50 class card Pog

odd sand
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Both are bad, both together are more bad.

hard drift
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Yeah especially for the price

odd sand
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128bit bus? omegabruh

hard drift
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Yeah

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It’s actually horrible lol

odd sand
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Like fucking WHY?

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It can't cost that much more to put a 192 or 256bit bus on it

hard drift
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Lol profit margins smugdori

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Can’t get that 90% profit that way /j

odd sand
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Gonna be a lot of recycled cards this gen

hard drift
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My new card better last

odd sand
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I really feel like they were on the hook for the silicon from TMSC, so they decided to just take the piss out of consumers and overprice them knowing most won't jump to AMD, and just wait until the price trickles down to the max idiots will pay

hard drift
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If it doesn’t i am blaming hank

odd sand
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Won't be any scalpers if they scalp their own cards and ride the price stepping all the way down over the next year+

hard drift
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Lol

odd sand
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xx50 cards when? I feel like that is the next logical step for this stupidity is to resurrect the old GTX 285 295 crap

paper tusk
odd sand
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It's like they're pinching their product stack into the higher numbers now. So basically anything under 70 series is budget trash

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And they'll just have a 4070, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti, 4080, 4080 Ti, 4090, 4090Ti, 4095

hard drift
odd sand
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2660 with 6gb vram for maximum memes

hard drift
dull garnet
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still feeling decent about my 2.5 years old msrp 3060 ti, puzzled by the gimped cards nvidia are putting out now though

hard drift
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i hope my new card holds up well come next gen COPIUM

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or atleast is still kicking namazuconcern

odd sand
dull garnet
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isn't like i play much that is new

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sf6 ran on max settings no problem uwucarby

hard drift
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i hate that they made it on ps4 still

dull garnet
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it runs and looks like shit on ps4

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tried the demo on my pro before the steam demo was out

hard drift
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Yeah and it will hold back online play lol

dull garnet
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online is 60 limited anyway

hard drift
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Just like it did 5

hard drift
dull garnet
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idk why you'd play on ps anyway

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paying a sub to play online

hard drift
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Because people hate themselves

dull garnet
cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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絵奈のえる | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/80835457
hard drift
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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milky | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92388489
hard drift
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Repost 😭

hard drift
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4090 will have to do though pensivewobble i have a feeling nvidia won’t do it this gen

dull garnet
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friend of mine bought a 4090

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£1600 playdead

hard drift
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Rip

inland mauve
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I won't say that it's worth it because that is such a huge fucking amount of money for a GPU

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but I will say that it's a damn beast of a card

hard drift
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It’s worth it dorime

hard drift
inland mauve
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my issue is that while it's a big leap forward in actual power, it is so much more expensive

hard drift
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it isn't all that more expensive though

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it's 100 dollars more expensive vs a 3090 msrp

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looking at the TI it's cheaper namazuconcern

inland mauve
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also it feels like Nvidia's strategy was to funnel you into it

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but I think that kind of backfires on them because it makes the rest of the 40xx lineup a joke of price/quality ratios

hard drift
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nah, i don't think it really backfired

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4090 still selling really well atleast when you look at stock

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4090 FE always out of stock namazuconcern same with some models

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i've seen it in stock once but that was back when i didn't need a new gpu pensivewobble

odd sand
umbral moss
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they get the most profit per unit with the 4090 and they just sell progressively gimped units below the 4090

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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ツユハ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/101728062
odd sand
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Aren't pseudo-monopolies great? They don't care if the market has cards, you can sit and spin until you pay their pound of flesh prices

umbral moss
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I mean, that's because nobody actually cares to compete

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AMD hasn't had a legitimately competitive product since it was fucking ATI

odd sand
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(Granted, if you're satisfied with 1080p, you don't need anywhere near a top tier card these days)

umbral moss
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intel is just off in the corner eating paste and pretending they have a GPU engineering division

hard drift
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especially when you consider the whole 5000 series fiasco

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people were burned and are scared to go amd again

umbral moss
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"scared", as if AMD fixed anything significant

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all they've done is import their GPU problems to their CPU line

hard drift
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lmao

umbral moss
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one day we'll get there

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cars that weigh car weights, not batteries that weigh what cars weigh + the car weight

hard drift
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holy crap those are hefty batteries

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i didn't know they were that fucking heavy...

dull garnet
umbral moss
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one hummer EV battery pack could have made like 10 nissan leafs

hard drift
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i knew they weren't that much better in the current state but holy shit 😭

umbral moss
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the battery pack in the hummer weighs more than a leaf lmao

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you're carrying a whole-ass car's worth of cargo weight before you even get to the actual construction of the vehicle and actual cargo capacity

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car manufacturers are running into the airplane thrust problem now

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they need more energy storage to drive more powerful motors but more storage is more weight which needs more power

sly elk
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EV taxis may make some sense depending on where

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otherwise, I think hybrids are the way to go most of the time..

minor hollow
sly elk
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mmm

modest moss
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EVs used to deliver milk to the majority of homes in the UK

sly walrus
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ev milk

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huh

modest moss
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yeah it's just cheaper to buy from supermarkets

minor hollow
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delivery vans are also a prime target for catalytic converter theft apparently

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so far, ive been lucky

sly elk
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EV garbage trucks, too

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there's actually a few of those out here and tbh they're kinda terrifying

minor hollow
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too quiet for something that big

sly elk
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because the only noise they make is the thunking and crushing noises a garbage truck makes

minor hollow
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once they develop a taste for human flesh

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its over

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nowhere is safe

sly elk
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wthout the noise of a detroit diesel struggling to turn the generator lmao

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man diesels are so lame

dull garnet
mortal condor
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Pretty sure I haven't lost it (yet)

But let me get this straight

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Nvidia is launching an 8GB 4060 tomorrow and then launching the 12GB version for $100 more.....in July

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So....wtf is the point of the 8GB's existence

dull garnet
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what is the point of the 4060

modest moss
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the point is the non-nerds who don't read up on stuff and just go 'this new gpu must be good'

mortal condor
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It's the budget card for the 40 series

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There's just no actual reason for this bs staggered release

hard drift
dull garnet
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oh 4060 ti

mortal condor
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Why on earth would anyone buy the 4060 for 8GB when the superior version with double the amount of vram comes out in less than 2 months

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Whose in charge of business strategy over there

dull garnet
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probably the part where it costs $100 more and is obscured by 2 months

hard drift
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Lol

minor hollow
modest moss
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@tame fulcrum did you craft my gear yet?

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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Eshima | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97092842
sly elk
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nice

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hmm that $200 arc 750 deal

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i ponder getting that and tossing it in my old build and making it a dedicated racer sim computer hehe

cerulean talon
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I want one just as a toy tbh.

sly elk
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someone on jalopnik reminded me of why I didn't buy the impala

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I can't imagine being forced to see that steering wheel for any amount of time

potent arrow
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Why is it so wide

deep sapphire
sly elk
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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椎奈碧 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86983183
odd sand
sly elk
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100%, plus they sit at night in the parking lot, so they can charge then

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yea I think there's a lot of great applications for EVs, just not the "half ton pickup driver in the midwest that for some reason has a 150 mi commute to work every day and needs to do it with a pickup truck"

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i've never met one of those out here though

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everyone out here who I've met that has a crazy commute drives some kinda commuter car

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like they might have a big boy truck at home, but for commuting, they use the car

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and then other people.. do funny things. Like I've met more than a few people who do things like construction or facilities management or janitor work or handyman work... and they drive a prius

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and I'll just walk by and see a sheet drywall or plywood laying in the back and some other random crap

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tbh they might be more practical than a pickup truck

sly elk
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ecokey
There's one I've never seen before lol

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the funny thing is that the energy star marketing may have gone away, but power efficiency is still a thing for non-high-performance computers

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-chuckle- I remember when dell lost their shit whining about that a while ago

cerulean talon
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My computer is plenty power efficient.

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It's fantastic at turning electricity into heat.

sly elk
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CEC title 20 is very specific and generally doesn't apply to the kinda computer an enthusiast would build

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the target is the shitboxes that banks would buy and leave idling 16 hours a day outside of business hours (with the screen on showing the windows screensaver, ofc)

glossy ravine
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I tried the 120hz display mode on the Samsung Galaxy S23 and my brain almost didn't process it all.

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Just. Whoa.

hard drift
sly elk
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lol

random marlin
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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Flippy | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93131692
deep sapphire
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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soyubee | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/77601724
random marlin
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im not sure why but the bluetooth menu doesn't show a connecting message when i click on a device anymore

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it only says paired, and the bar at the top is constantly loading

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hm that's weird

real edge
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4060ti is a 3070 with a 100$ discount

the 3070:

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spotted an evga card in the wild

paper tusk
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nice

torpid kayak
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:thenking:

sly elk
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LOL

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I just love those

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"The new 40 series XX is a piece of crap! Look how it's worse than the last gen's 3060ti in every way on paper!"
-> benchmarks come out showing its performance is way way better

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I still don't understand why this happens

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everything so far suggests the 4070ti is a turd

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so why is it so good?

torpid kayak
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:3

sly elk
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iirc the 6950xt can beat a 3080ti

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so the 4070ti effectively beats a 3080ti

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and I can get a zotac 4070ti for 799

livid dune
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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白モアイ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96767140
livid dune
sly elk
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androgynous catperson

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hehe :3

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!hank

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oh right, too soon

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oh i was right, that's what the caption says too

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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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rum | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/90768149
sly elk
odd sand
# sly elk everything so far suggests the 4070ti is a turd

It falls behind at higher resolutions bc of the gimped memory bus, and the principle of the matter that it was priced the same or higher than the 3080 at equiv perf 3 years later. When normally you would expect the price to be a tier lower, reflecting the numbering scheme. So it should have been like $550-600, not $900.

sly elk
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soooo

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they're specifically promoting the 1080p gaming

odd sand
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You don't buy a 70ti series card in 2023 for 1080p gaming. That's idiotic.

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If all you want is 1080p you don't need a card like that.

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Unless you plan on running RTX Ultra or something and want more than 50-60fps

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Anyways, I shouldn't be making GPU hot takes at 2am I need to sleep lol

sly elk
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sweet dreams!

real edge
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the reason why the 4070ti is shit is because of its lack of vram capacity and its bus width limiting bandwidth

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if it had 16gb of vram and a 256bit wide bus nobody would be complaining

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but 192 bit wide bus and 12gb vram in 2023 out of a 800+ euro product is very stupid

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just buy a 7900xtx for like 150$ more nowdays and you get double the vram capacity and double the bus width

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longevity

sly elk
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as long as it doesn't go up in smoke after the warranty ends like what happened to bidori 😦

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lol hope that doesn't happen to my 7800x3d

sharp star
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Wait what happened to bidori

sharp star
sharp star
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Yeah sums it up

modern iris
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can anybody recommend a dirt cheap graphics card without being too cheap? im talking pre 1060 590, less than 150 bucks. going in my spare parts computer with ryzen 3600x, 32gb 3600 mhz

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think ill yank the 1060 6gb out of my dads facebook/youtube browsing linux pc and buy him a 2018 gt 1030

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89 dorra

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hes literally 61 years old and watches videos about chain saws and 4 wheelers and browses market place on a pc built out of my old gaming parts

real edge
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you can probably pick up

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a used 3050 or something

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if you want something cheap but not absolute trash

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well from a gaming perspective the 3050 is absolute trash

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but a used 3050 is like what

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130 bucks or less?

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nobody wants it

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so you might be able to find a used one for dirt cheap

modern iris
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Interesting point but the 1060 I have will do for now, won't be using it much

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Soon it lives

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I'll have to get 2 exhaust fans

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And an SSD

hard drift
sharp star
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something about hardware going up in smoke

hard drift
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My gpu is failing bad lol, microcenter did testing snd it artifacted 28 times

real edge
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how old was it?

hard drift
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Refused to replace it despite my warranty, they claimed it was expired but couldn’t get the date right

deep sapphire
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Another satisfied AMD customer

hard drift
deep sapphire
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GAMING EVOLVED

real edge
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only 2 years

deep sapphire
hard drift
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Yeah

real edge
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its definitely within warranty

hard drift
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Nope lmfao

real edge
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check with the cards manufacturer

deep sapphire
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he did

hard drift
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I did

deep sapphire
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It only came with 2 years

hard drift
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Been through all this already

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That’s why i got a 4090 coming thursday

real edge
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wtf 2 year warranty

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who was it

hard drift
deep sapphire
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Power color wasn’t it

hard drift
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Yeah

real edge
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now I know what not to buy, a powercolor card

deep sapphire
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At least it wasn’t Diamond multimedia

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Are they even still in business

hard drift
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Idk never heard of them

deep sapphire
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That’s who I got my 5970 from

real edge
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zotac has 5 years extended warranty, gigabyte 4, most other manufacturers 3.

2 just seems unusual

hard drift
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Either way, i gotta go dorime gotta get ready for the gym

deep sapphire
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But back then lifetime warranties were the norm

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Bidori is getting buff for his new gf

hard drift
real edge
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my gf is my - nevermind I will not finish that joke

deep sapphire
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Is my gf

hard drift
real edge
hard drift
deep sapphire
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You have a 4090 now no time for girls

hard drift
real edge
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a gf powered by stable diffusion AI

deep sapphire
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That’s my face to what you just said

hard drift
deep sapphire
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“Pffft kid can’t even read” LMAO

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Like how disgusted he looks over it always has me dying

hard drift
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RX 7600 and RTX 4060 Ti stay away, 16K displays are already here BOE 110-inch 16K display, Source: Vicent Teoh/HDTVtest While gamers are still debating whether the 1440p to 4K transition is worth the hassle, professional display makers are slowly switching to 6K and even 8K resolution. However, what BOE has showcased at Display Week […]

deep sapphire
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Time to take out a loan

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Lmao

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This movie is hilarious

hard drift
fair parcel
deep sapphire
fair parcel
deep sapphire
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Another W for nvidia

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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ツユハ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97586424
cerulean talon
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Server's going downhill man, 6 hours without a !hank

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smh.

sharp star
fair parcel
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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郡ソ太 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92123940
mortal condor
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Manager 3 minutes into this 4060 "launch": Alright launch is over, good job everyone

modest moss
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I bet it'll still sell a fair few but in prebuilts to parents buying for their kids on a 'budget'

odd sand
cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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甘城なつき | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/75377838
wraith agate
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hmm

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so

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I am trying to put together that PC I was planning on buying

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and it seems many components aren't delivered to my country

modest moss
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move to Germany and build one there mate

wraith agate
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if I do that I must also get HRT

modest moss
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would Germany help with that? I saw lu say they're decent about trans things now but idk details

wraith agate
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HMMMMMMM

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I mean way above my punch weight

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but

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diablo

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cheaper and still diablo

modest moss
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you can probably put together a decent 13700k rig without gpu for 1k

wraith agate
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I need to make calculations

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oof

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I forgot to set the PSU in the part selector

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can anyone recommend a good one?

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OKAY, if I put all the components I want together, this is the final result

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this does not include shipping cost

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but it is within my budget

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though, I do have to mention it has a lot of ifs and buts

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and might need to ask my mom a little help

tribal sedge
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Do you really need a 4090 though? What resolution and hz are you trying to achieve?

umbral moss
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I found a quote a while ago that really applies here "when you buy expensive quality stuff, you only cry once"

real edge
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unless the gpu socket melts

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or the adapter

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or the cable

umbral moss
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noted XTX 5950 haver

real edge
modest moss
umbral moss
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if your game runs like a champ on a piece of shit from 2017 it'll run on most PCs no problem

sly elk
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it reminds me of ice's setup

umbral moss
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that icy keyboard looks bangin

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and he has the hot toys delorean sad

dull garnet
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that is clearly lego

umbral moss
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is it?

dull garnet
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yes

umbral moss
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the lego delorean is cool too

dull garnet
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looks like a reddit setup to me

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sound game is lacking severely

umbral moss
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XXXTREME GAMEN usually comes with a shit-tier sound setup

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they'll spend $7000 on RGB bullshit but $50 on headphones

dull garnet
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all you need is 6xx playdead

umbral moss
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I'm a big fan of the audeze mobius

#

the head tracking is actually magic and it works on all audio, not just specific games

wraith agate
#

oh wait you mean screen resolution

#

good

dull garnet
umbral moss
#

planar magnetic drivers boosted from the LCD-4?

dull garnet
#

headset

umbral moss
#

as opposed to...?

#

you don't sit far enough away from a monitor to get any benefit from spatial speaker setups

#

unless they have teeny drivers and what's the point then

dull garnet
#

headphones, obviously

umbral moss
#

🤔

#

the mobius is basically an LCD-4 with a microphone on it

#

it's not the most cutting edge PMD from audeze but it's something you would have found in their flagship a few years ago

#

SC2 😌

#

great little car, built to survive a nuclear fuckin apocalypse

#

I drove mine with an empty oil pan for a month

sly elk
#

yea GM should've kept saturn and pontiac ;_;

#

they should've gotten rid of buick -_-

umbral moss
#

buick sold well in china, so RIP to saturn and pontiac

sly elk
#

i mean honestly maybe they didn't need pontiac either lol

#

fuck buick

umbral moss
#

until the chinese developed their own mid-tier equivalents and stopped buying GM cars

#

hoisted by their own petard

sly elk
#

I can't think of a single car brand that is less relevant in the US than buick

#

it's like the desoto of the 2020s

cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
fusuma | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89940945
sly elk
#

that said, it's just a brand.

umbral moss
#

the reason buick is a dogwater brand is because GM cars/sedans are also dogwater lmao

umbral moss
#

the only reason saturn was good was because their engineering was completely separate from GM's main dogshit pipeline

umbral moss
#

I was looking at triumphs the other day

#

such a cool looking car

sly elk
#

also, somehow, owning a saturn was considered socially acceptable for a brief moment in time

umbral moss
#

yeah, because the SC2 was a cool car for its time

sly elk
#

it's not like owning anything that isn't honda/toyota/tesla/bmw now

umbral moss
#

the 95-97 MY was surprisingly good

#

the 92-94 MY was ugly and then they made saturn start using GM underbodies wearycarby

random marlin
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ゆあの | https://twitter.com/yua_n0/status/1513179984697098240
random marlin
#

Test

tribal sedge
dull garnet
#

No longer a gamer
Still a Reddit user

#

😎

#

Lol, fpbp

sly elk
#

welp, power supply arrived for the old pc build :3

#

now to decide whether to use my old inwin case or get another....

#

it'd be nice to put it to use lol

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

apparently in other markets it's miraculously safe to use 5w40 in the same engine

deep sapphire
#

5w40 is good in really hot climates but for high compression engines that might cause issues

sly elk
#

pft i should toss some in my jeep

#

it uses 0w20...

cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ももこ | https://twitter.com/momoco_haru/status/1465985361906077704
deep sapphire
random marlin
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
むらの | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96848974
sharp star
odd sand
#

Isn't the future wonderful

hard drift
#

praise the 4090 Prayge

sly elk
#

vscode remote-ssh + this one linux VM = MiqoteDepressed MiqoteDepressed honk 😡

wraith agate
random marlin
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
白モアイ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/88655077
random marlin
hard drift
deep sapphire
#

the 4090 is the most expensive, but its one of the best values we've ever gotten at that tier

#

while everything under it is just trash

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

stop being a fucking PC GAMER!

#

you buy something

#

you be happy with it

#

end of discussion

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

unless its AMD

hard drift
hard drift
deep sapphire
#

they are pretty rare

#

maybe in DLSS performance or something as we are on the first gen DLSS3 cards

#

and frankly I've been underwhelmed about DLSS3

#

only tried it with CP2077 and it was pretty bad, image quality was terrible

hard drift
#

dlss3 is ass

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
#

it took ferrari multiple days to mount the tire jesus

#

sounds like a headache

hard drift
#

wtf

deep sapphire
#

oh they didnt even do it right

hard drift
#

LMFAO

deep sapphire
#

no wonder your local mom and pop chevy dealer aint touchin that shit

#

this is the problem with the brand

#

"yeah we sell shitty 10,000 dollar korean cars that break down to world class super cars"

sly elk
#

The engineers said typically when they do these battery teardowns, they expect to see an aluminum cradle as automakers have been going for weight savings. Except GM, that is. The pack is also made up of a complex assortment of individual steel pieces held together by 3,500 laser welds.

sly elk
#

-waits patiently for the corvette suv-

deep sapphire
#

god I hate that

#

if they seriously do that

sly elk
#

oh I am 1000000% positive they will

#

this is GM we're talking about

#

imagine if they went full GM and spun corvette off as an independent brand

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

"Introducing the all new Corvette Lineup! With the FWD Corvette 2C and 4C crossovers, the Corvette Plus fullsize SUV, and the Corvette Truck!"

#

(it's a Silverado with a corvette badge slapped on the front)

deep sapphire
#

lmao BODY ON FRAME

sly elk
#

the fullsize is also

#

but the FWD crossovers are just rebadged Trax and Traverse

#

(do they still make the captive..a?)

deep sapphire
#

I dont think so

sly elk
#

The second-generation Captiva is a rebadged version of Baojun 530. The model is developed and produced by SAIC-GM-Wuling and exported to several emerging markets. I

#

i bet they're in a big hurry to kill the camaro

#

but TBH I'll give GM credit

#

they're at least being straighforward about it, same with ford

#

-pokes stellantis-

#

current word is that they're killing the charger/300/challenger and there will be no replacement for them

#

just, that's that

deep sapphire
#

GM got chased out of europe because all they sold were rebadged daewoos

sly elk
#

you want a full size rwd sedan? go buy some other brand lol --all american brands atm

deep sapphire
#

the most confusing fuckin brand in modern times

#

from having a 20 car lineup in the 90s to now having what, 3?

sly elk
#

no but afaik that is EXACTLY what they're planning

#

their only planned new chrysler vehicle was some boring ass suv and they killed that too

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

and not because it was shit (and it was)

#

but because the new CEO that joined like a year ago decided they have to start fresh

deep sapphire
#

"machinery last longer" yeah you guys sure did great at that /s

sly elk
#

i think stellantis' long term plan is to kill all of the chrysler brands except jeep, sell that to some chinese company, and then turn the chrysler dealers into fiat/alfa dealers

#

they have this sick obsession with alfa romeo

#

if I became stellantis CEO the first thing I'd do on day 1 is kill alfa romeo

#

then maserati, idk why maserati even exists

#

or maybe i'd just make one model for all of the 20 brands hahaha

#

like each brand just becomes 1 car

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

and also

#

i'd make a rule all the new cars have to be weird.

#

that means the citroen 2cv, ds, and fiat multipla are back baby

#

so is the pt cruiser 😄

royal forge
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
bt半糖 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102148312
royal forge
#

Big

#

@deep sapphire

deep sapphire
#

TECHNOLOGY!?

wraith agate
hard drift
modest moss
hard drift
modest moss
#

intel cpu when

hard drift
#

not worth it

wraith agate
#

I'm getting an intel i5

#

64gb ram

#

At least 3 TB storage

#

And a case of monster energy

#

12 cans of pure goodness

hard drift
#

lol

sly elk
#

-ponders-

#

I think my other build is going to lack rgb hahaha

wraith agate
#

I am deliberately avoiding RGB

hard drift
sly elk
#

i'm sticking my old parts in a case i bought like 8 years ago

#

the motherboard, ram, and cpu cooler do have rgb, just not the fans lol

wraith agate
#

I don't think I can fully avoid RGB, but at least I can set it to indigo

sly elk
#

oh, you can

#

imho pretty easily

wraith agate
#

If anything the case will be used as lightsource

sly elk
#

for example, the i7 and i9 combo deals that microcenter has, are cheap motherboards with no RGB, and ram that doesn't have RGB either

#

and you can get all of the best RAM on the market without RGB

wraith agate
#

Oh I meant the case

sly elk
#

why can't ya avoid rgb on the case?

wraith agate
#

I am getting components without RGB

wraith agate
sly elk
#

very few cases actually have any rgb to speak of

#

ahhh which one is it?

wraith agate
#

NZXT H7 Flow

sly elk
#

the ones that do usually just have a strip along the edge or something

#

huh

#

oh you picked rgb fans?

wraith agate
#

The fans it comes with are RGB

#

Nope

sly elk
#

hmm weird

#

the one on amazon doesn't come with the rgb fans unless you choose to get them

#

same on the newegg listing

#

that said

wraith agate
#

Oh nvmd there's a fanless

sly elk
#

you should pay the $30 :3

wraith agate
#

No

#

I'm already slightly above my budget

sly elk
#

it comes with 4 fans >> the other case only comes with 2

#

then again

modest moss
sly elk
#

nvm don't bother

wraith agate
sly elk
#

the rgb fans aren't even the cool ones with the rings

modest moss
#

curious combo

sly elk
#

they're just the normal rgb kind

wraith agate
sly elk
#

eh, i5 and a 4090 is the reddit meme build

wraith agate
#

You guys suggested I get those two

sly elk
#

the "spend almost all of your budget on the GPU and then cheap out on everything else" build

#

ehh but i5s aren't bad

#

the real meme is when someone uses an i3 😄

hard drift
#

ice smugdori

sly elk
#

i5 is respectable

modest moss
#

I didn't, I suggested i7 13700k like Hank has

#

more grunt for dev stuff

sly elk
#

but what the heck do you need a 4090 for

wraith agate
#

Lemme see

sly elk
#

oh wait it's sarah

wraith agate
sly elk
#

(the oh wait it's sarah == someone that I think could use all that power!)

#

(I wanted to make sure you knew I didn't mean that in a derogatory way lol)

wraith agate
#

Eifhbfibforb

#

The i7 13700k is 405€

#

That's €100 more than the i5

sly elk
#

oh wait sarah changed their name hah sorry I got confused ;_;

hard drift
#

sarah is always changing names lol

modest moss
#

sarah has a new nick every few days

#

new nick every injury or explosion

sly elk
#

i thought amykah was one of them

modest moss
#

nah different crystal girl

sly elk
modest moss
#

sarah is aether anyway, she just fucks with colours

wraith agate
#

I'm not the crystal girl you're looking for

#

So

#

After careful consideration of a minute

#

I think I can afford an i7-13700k

#

I'm just gonna have to find a cheaper PC case and reduce the m.2 ssd from 1tb to 500gb

modest moss
#

going to annoy you now

#

wouldn't drop the m.2 size

#

I have 2x 1tb m.2 and wish they were bigger already

royal forge
#

^

#

You'd be surprised how much bollocks u end up collecting

wraith agate
#

I mean

#

I'm going to have 2 1tb SATA 3 SSD

#

As well

#

But

#

If I can convince my mom to add some more cash to the pile, then I can afford without downgrading

cerulean talon
#

I’d 100% get a cheaper proc and upgrade later rather than upgrading nvmes tbh

#

Once you’re setup and running the last thing you want to do is reformat, move disks or that insanity if you can avoid it

sly elk
#

where do I even sit on this

wraith agate
#

I'm gonna say no

#

I need performance more

sly elk
#

buy a $1600 gpu that's gonna be worth $600 in a year?

wraith agate
#

Look

#

In a year, idgaf

sly elk
#

fair

#

i mean it's a big part of your work lol

wraith agate
#

I'm lucky if I'm alive next week

#

Also that

sly elk
#

then why are we even discussing this? shouldn't you be ordering that hardware asap? :]

wraith agate
#

Besides I don't think 24gb vram goes to waste anytime soon

cerulean talon
#

VRAM is forever, until the next generation

cerulean talon
#

Mostly for processor vs nvme it’d come to abilty to replace time imo

#

But if you’re going for perf, yeah, send it on an i7

wraith agate
#

I mean

sly elk
#

worst case, you buy the i5 and have to sell it. They don't lose their value that badly though.

wraith agate
#

I can do both

sharp star
#

Yeah i5/4090 is a weird combo but not like

#

super bottlenecking that it'll drag down the other

wraith agate
#

I can manage €100 extra

sly elk
#

-nod- then there ya go! 😄

wraith agate
#

The real issue comes if I'm missing a component because someone took the last one away

cerulean talon
#

Yeah, if you can have both, that’s the way

wraith agate
#

I'm just praying the GPU I picked won't run out of stock when I get to order it.

cerulean talon
#

Avails been better in general, friend was able to grab a 4090 fe at best buy in person the other day, so here’s hoping

wraith agate
cerulean talon
#

I’ve had good luck with them personally

#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
XIHO | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89651591
cerulean talon
#

Man, purple to sleep on. Kupos da best

wraith agate
#

Wish that was me

sly elk
#

building computers is fun

#

i think this case needs an air guide to actually work correctly

fair parcel
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ほし | https://twitter.com/hoshi_u3/status/1496043743425994752
royal forge
#

Fuck RIGHT off

real edge
royal forge
#

i wont

#

did you hear they're even putting even more intrusive stuff?

golden stream
#

Can disable via BIOS

royal forge
#

nah

#

it's more like

#

"fuck off Windows, im not gonna upgrade"

golden stream
#

Lol

royal forge
#

^ regarding the 4060Ti

#

ok, nvidia

#

someone's fuckin desperate

wide hill
#

maybe they took it out of the article with no context

#

'this graphics card is no way shape and form of a "must have" card'

inland mauve
#

the full quote is "I must have a trashcan to dunk this card into"

sly walrus
umbral moss
#

just consume the 4060, consumers

cerulean talon
#

It’s gonna shove it down your throat eventually

real edge
#

just disable secure boot or something

#

then it will say you do not have the required specs

sly walrus
#

das what i do

cerulean talon
#

Tbh, a combination of gpo and win pro keeps it at bay, so I don’t mind too much.

#

I moved off because windows and I just fight too much in how it works

real edge
#

ITS OFFICIAL, THE cable from cablemod arrived sooner from china than my ISP could fix my internet

inland mauve
#

what kind of cable?

cerulean talon
deep sapphire
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
真夜月 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87386891
deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Is it out for delivery

hard drift
deep sapphire
real edge
#

idk why my country has good GPU prices

#

its a shit country

#

lmao

deep sapphire
#

Just makes it that much better

hard drift
#

Lol

hard drift
real edge
#

the whole nvidia stack is cheaper here than germany

deep sapphire
#

Germany probably demanding Bosch start making graphics cards

#

What doesn’t Bosch make

#

That is the question

real edge
#

one example

#

we have one below MSRP

royal forge
#

Nhadala

#

Buy me a 4090

real edge
#

I only earn 313 a month

royal forge
#

Just dont eat for 6 months

real edge
#

try a 7900xt instead

#

good enough

modest moss
#

Aoi has a 3090 he doesn't need a gpu

royal forge
#

Shush

hard drift
royal forge
#

Also

deep sapphire
#

The 4090 is up to 80 percent faster though

royal forge
#

^

deep sapphire
royal forge
#

Hank, buy me a 4090

hard drift
#

the 4090 is insane gains dorime

deep sapphire
#

No I am saving for a truck

royal forge
#

Also, Shue, why does the Fray Bentos pies lack salt

modest moss
#

all Aoi does is watch hentai

deep sapphire
hard drift
real edge
#

the only worry the 4090 has is those damnable melting cables

deep sapphire
royal forge
modest moss
#

idk I don't make them and I told you they suck now

hard drift
royal forge
#

Ye. Its a sbame

deep sapphire
#

Well

#

From experience

royal forge
#

Well, i'll wait for the uh

deep sapphire
#

Those connector are a bitch

modest moss
#

stop buying things I told you aren't good

royal forge
#

6090

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

I can totally see how people are fucking it up

#

It’s very hard to insert lmao

royal forge
real edge
#

I got a custom cable to skip the adapters and I am still worried

royal forge
hard drift
deep sapphire
royal forge
#

4090s are still more exp than 3090s at their """normal market price"

real edge
#

3x8 to 16pin vhpwr

royal forge
#

For me, that is

royal forge
#

I AM debatin a second monitor tho

hard drift
royal forge
#

Its more of a lack of space

#

I'd like those monitor arms

#

But they look like they'd damage my dinky ass MDF table

hard drift
#

do what i did

#

get a reinforcement plate so that it clamps to that

royal forge
#

Hmmmmmm

royal forge
#

I see

hard drift
#

😒

modest moss
hard drift
inland mauve
#

I saw that

royal forge
#

HEY SHUE IS SNITCHING

modest moss
#

he's a randy lad

royal forge
#

BAN HIM

inland mauve
#

were those the secret mod channels

royal forge
#

Also, which of u guys have the uggo new discord layout btw?

hard drift
#

thank goodness

modest moss
inland mauve
#

hank has his own hell?

hard drift
inland mauve
#

is it full of fords?

deep sapphire
#

NO

hard drift
#

even worse

deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
#

True rapid blue is the best color

#

Toyota had the best color but it was limited to like 2 years

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Voodoo blue

hard drift
deep sapphire
modest moss
#

do you regret not getting that truck

deep sapphire
#

That was limited to like 2018-2020

#

I dunno why they don’t have it as a regular color

#

Rapid blue corvette looks decent

modest moss
#

not a huge fan of that corvette

#

it looks too angry

deep sapphire
#

It’s grown on me but I can see your issue with it

#

It’s a bit over styled

#

This is my personal favorite

#

Did you know even though those have a massive V8 engine they get good fuel economy

modest moss
#

much friendlier

deep sapphire
#

People have gotten 35 MPG on the highway

wraith agate
#

umm I'm back again

#

so the NZXT case I checked out has no fans and been thinking about building an airflow PC

#

are these fans good?

modest moss
#

probably fine

#

I just use arctic cooling, cheap and good

#

@dull garnet also approves

dull garnet
#

Get P14 PWM

#

Every fan in my pc together cost less than one noctua fan

cerulean talon
#

My roomie's got 12 NF-F12's and is moving to 18 soon.

#

They're shockingly loud for noctua's.

real edge
#

have we seen ANY cables melt instead of adapters?

#

like

#

a direct pin to pin connector, no adapters

#

have any of those melted?

odd sand
#

Is it so much each fan is loud or the fact they have 12 of them? :)

potent arrow
real edge
#

:<

potent arrow
#

just make sure the connector is fully seated

#

Its all down to the connector, not the adpater or cable or anything

real edge
#

so skipping the adapter gave me 1 less point of failure essentially

#

but there is still a risk

potent arrow
#

Just the 90 degree cable mod or cable direct makes sure its easier for you to make sure its seated

#

Honestly its such a none issue if you push it all the way in

#

Hear the click, feel the click, visual inspection

real edge
#

I got a 3x8 to 16pin connector from cablemod, 3 8-pins to 16pin

potent arrow
#

the issue is on the 16 pin side

#

I wont worry about the s 8

#

3 8

#

You will be fine

dull garnet
real edge
#

fuck I hate stupid points of failure, they make me worry

#

I want the gpu to last for 6-7 years or more

#

I do not want burned shit years down the line