technology-discussion

[deep sapphire]

which goes back to your original argument

yeah lets get a US made board

[sly elk]

I wouldn't be shocked if such a thing existed for xeon CPUs

but idk,....

gov and gov-adjacent stuff sometimes requires TAA compliance which means made in the US

you usually see it with servers though

supermicro makes some servers that are made in the USA but it's probably like stanley

[deep sapphire]

they only make server grade boards too

[sly elk]

super micro does make Z series intel boards

[deep sapphire]

I havent looked at their product stack in years but I recall if you even wanted one with a single PCI-E slot it was 900 dollars rofl

[sly elk]

rofl

[deep sapphire]

https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/SuperO

holy shit

when the hell did they make these

[sly elk]

here

https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/C9Z790-CG

I was both impressed and disappointed when I saw them

[deep sapphire]

according to the specs

[sly elk]

like a green mobo with gamer specs would be cool

[deep sapphire]

it has weird PCI-E lane distribution

[sly elk]

meh by my own standards everything using intel Z series has less than stellar PCIE lanes

what's so weird about it?

2 pcie 5.0 x16 oh i see

you either get x16 and x0, or x8 and x8

[sharp star]

GN does a mix

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/well-not-anymore-saturday-night-live-not-this-time-not-right-now-kyle-mooney-gif-23601948

[sharp star]

they are usually given press samples but sometimes as with the 7900X3D they bought it

[sly elk]

the response i'd love to see is something along the lines of

"ok we fucked up but we stand behind our product and appreciate you going to those lengths to blow it up, so in the future we'll send you early samples to test and break for us" or something idk

[sharp star]

they were given a Steam Deck review sample last year too

[sly elk]

mmmm

https://www.newegg.com/supermicro-m12swa-tf-amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-3000wx-series-processor/p/N82E16813183727

now there's a cpu combo with some chest hair

of course a regular 7900x smokes it

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

絵奈のえる | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/80631773

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[deep sapphire]

c@ donuts

[sly elk]

yea the only z790 evga boards are 649 and 799

there is the z690 dark kingpin for 399

[odd sand]

Why are motherboards such stupid prices

And they don't even make reasonable boards with reasonable features anymore.

If you want like 2.5gbe ethernet + wifi and at least 3 M.2 slots and at least 12 stage power it's like $300+ usually closer to $500

[sly elk]

the FTW models were reasonably priced

but with z790 they haven't released one (yet)

[sharp star]

what about one that overvolts your CPU

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-elmo-fire-gif-26388239

face of the entire PC oem industry atm

GPUs, motherboards, CPUs etc.

All seem to be like "TDP? What's that?"

"You don't have 240V in your computer room?"

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

うはる | https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1365958645268160517

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[sly elk]

purple!

[cerulean talon]

Blessed be kupo, delivering onto us, moar purple

[sly elk]

!hank

[opal panther]

もうボコボコだよ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97197226

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[lost python]

lol

i mean, he has almost 4m subs and they want to hear his opinion.
but he also primarily talks about his own experiences with asus in that video which is good to know

[real edge]

I stopped watching jay cause he just has 0 in-depth information about anything nor does he make his own benchmarks

he offers nothing unique to the table

[lost python]

he does more general tech stuff

[sly elk]

lol

he's a classic youtuber

if you are baselining gamers nexus as your standard for all review sites to be judged by, you will be sorely disappointed man

[real edge]

there is hardware unboxed as well

[lost python]

desks, simrigs, studio building, accessories, cases etc. he doesnt go super indepth but offers views into fields that channels like GN do not cover

[sly elk]

is that the one with the buildzoid dude that rates motherboards by how good the VRMs are?

[real edge]

he does benchmarks for games, gpus, cpus and some motherboard vrm tests

[sly elk]

I remember there was a time between z390 and z590 where every motherboard was judged harshly exclusively by how good the VRMs were

[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

kana616 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/91230534

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[sly elk]

some people say that's why the nice boards doubled in price

half the time those catgirls are

[livid dune]

This bot is rigged to give me vtubers everytime

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-anime-gif-19740975

it's like every time you call !hank your social credit score goes down by 1 point

but it's so fun to do

so if you look at the bright side, ASUS motherboards are about to get cheaper

[real edge]

asussy

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hella-sus-among-us-imposter-impostor-digibyte-gif-19824591

[lost python]

no wonder i have been unhappy with my asus board ever since i got it

trash features with trash software for a premium price, which i didnt even pay but i still feel upset about it

[real edge]

my asus prime x470-pro had no real issues

it was fine for what it was

[sly elk]

that's how i feel rob 😄

[real edge]

and the current gigabyte board feels stacked for how cheap it was tho

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/squatted-truck-carolina-squat-junk-gif-23269924

i bought a maximus xi hero and was excited to configure the fans and the software at first glance looked cool. but it was useless crap. totally useless crap.

had to buy a corsair controller to get any semblance of decent fan control

[real edge]

3 sata ports, two m.2 slots, PCIe 4.0

and it costed me 129 euro

has a good vrm as well

[sly elk]

which board?

ah but 2 m.2

i want a board with at least 4 :3

[lost python]

i switched to opensource RGB and fan control software

[cerulean talon]

Just get a m.2 bifurcator

[sly elk]

that aquacomputer thing?

[lost python]

because Asuss software is ass

[sly elk]

or

[cerulean talon]

And a board that supports it

[real edge]

https://www.bestprice.gr/item/2156376152/gigabyte-aorus-b550-elite-v2.html

[lost python]

nah openRGB and fan control

[sly elk]

oh you're still using the onboard

ehhhh good for you!

I should be all over that stuff

[lost python]

it works semi decent with it

[real edge]

feels overbuilt for how much it cost but

makes me happy

[lost python]

me and my msi b550 tomahawk that i had before

[sly elk]

what I saw with z790 was it was like all the motherboard vendors colluded over features and pricing

there's no competition

the featureset per price is almost identical regardless of brand

[lost python]

that 130€ board that did and had everything i needed but i sold it with my old cpu because surely the 500€ asus board will be much better, right?

at least it looks pretty i guess

[sly elk]

yea but who's gonna see it

[lost python]

even if none of the settings turn off the damn RGB when the PC is off

[sly elk]

underneath the giant gpu lol

ohh

I thought that feature was kinda cool

i mean it should definitely turn it off when the computer is off, if that's what you want 😦

[lost python]

well i can set it to never be on, to always be on or to turn off when i am in sleep mode, but only there

[sly elk]

mmmm asus firmware

[lost python]

also with my msi i was able to slap a fan to the pump header and still control its speed. with asus it doesnt work

so now i got 2 fans that are always at max RPM
but they are bequiet and i cant hear them so thats at least not an issue

[sly elk]

how can you not hear them

uh oh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2n4rOWehtQ

[paper tusk]

https://neosemic.com/

basically: multi layer flash memory applied to dram

so 64 gb sticks might be the new normal in 2025-2026

[fair parcel]

!hank

[opal panther]

ゆあの | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86361843

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[sly elk]

Don't feed your cat motherboards

[hard drift]

but it's my cats favorite /j

[sly elk]

I think I'm giving in and going 13900k lol

The am5 stuff sounds like a disaster for now

[hard drift]

yeah it's all pretty bad, i luckily haven't had any problems since updating

[sly elk]

What did you get?

Like in terms of board and cpu?

[hard drift]

7900x and strix b650e

only because it was bundled together 600 for ram motherboard and cpu before all of this came to light

i can imagine it's even less now lol

[sly elk]

You did microcenter?

[hard drift]

yeah

the only way to buy shit it's just too good

[sly elk]

Admittedly I can't help myself I like flashy mobos and ram lol

[hard drift]

lol

[hard drift]

i'm super basic i don't want flashy at all

i was so happy that the included ram was super basic looking lol

[sly elk]

I mean

There's a 13900k with tuf board for 799

I'm fine with that

But the ram it comes with is lame lol

[hard drift]

[sly elk]

Also maybe I should be dumb and get a D4 board

Because the thing that bugs me about ddr5

Is that it doesn't like when you use 4 sticks

[hard drift]

I mean, why do you really need 4 sticks

[sly elk]

4x16 baby

[hard drift]

😒 what a waste

[sly elk]

Plus it looks nice

Well hey let's be fancy and say 4x32

And there's like no performance difference anyway

[hard drift]

why not be super fancy and go for higher density

4x48

[sly elk]

Wait I could get trident z royal

[hard drift]

awful looking ram

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/starry-eye-anime-anime-girl-sparkling-gif-15736214

But I kinda rather have icue ram

[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

AIZAWA | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89209136

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[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

いかっち | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86507919

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[deep sapphire]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[modest moss]

!hank

[opal panther]

まっちゃ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93998638

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[modest moss]

241

[deep sapphire]

!hank

[opal panther]

Parum | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/80990481

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[sly elk]

!hank

[opal panther]

八上しろ.ai | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/88135885

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[kindred brook]

https://youtu.be/PnVX7VF_SQw

Can I stream in 4k now

[modest moss]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[fair parcel]

the doubles are rare, wonder if there are triples

[unreal eagle]

[modest moss]

!hank

[opal panther]

DOROTHY | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/77298844

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[fair parcel]

!hank

I broke it

[modest moss]

60s cd

!hank

[opal panther]

星井やな | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93272199

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[odd sand]

The new username thing is stupid bc not everyone can get the same @ name, so it was actually a good differentiator for each one to have a slightly different naming scheme

[fair parcel]

oh didn't know there was a cd

[unreal eagle]

!hank

[opal panther]

yonkyuu | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/80116728

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[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8IO9u9IuOs

WAKE UP BABE NEW ENGINEERGUY VIDEO

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

MisuzuFaraday | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87045654

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[unreal eagle]

!hank

[opal panther]

椎奈碧 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86983183

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[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

こまこまり | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95730940

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[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

たぴおか | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/83381309

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[sly elk]

!hank

[opal panther]

甘城なつき | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95936407

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[cerulean talon]

Kupo is not delivering adequate amounts of purple for a friday.

[jaunty nacelle]

@cerulean talon i present https://catboys.com as another api to use

[hard drift]

!hank

[opal panther]

PiAn | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/91363666

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[cerulean talon]

I'd need to audit a ton of their images, nekos.best publishes a full list so we could spotcheck it.

[deep sapphire]

cute

https://tenor.com/view/very-nice-excellent-yes-meme-nod-gif-17397471

Minnesotan nodding

[sly elk]

-ponders a 7950x as well-

i haven't heard as much about those blowing up as the x3ds..

[hard drift]

it's not really an issue if you just update the bios asap

[dull garnet]

https://twitter.com/lazygamereviews/status/1657060301395591178?s=20

LGR (@lazygamereviews)

Today on LGR: Building the Ultimate Oddware Tower!

https://t.co/0Q2e6af4sy

For YEARS now I've wanted to get a huge Antec Twelve Hundred case and fill every one of its dozen 5.25" drive bays with weird and strange 90s and 2000s devices, creating a sort of towering Oddware Museum

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Twitter · May 12, 2023, 4:28 PM

[sly elk]

the one thing that leaves the ryzen 7xxx attractive to me is the lower heat output

[dull garnet]

SOUL

[sly elk]

YES

I gotta watch that later

antec 1200 vs CM stacker?

[cerulean talon]

Bless the 5.25 bay and all the random shit you can shove into it.

[sly elk]

yea!

hail the 5.25" bay!

[hard drift]

i want that

[paper tusk]

now I'm cuious if thee's any ash tray devices still on ebay

nope i can find it in general just not for sale

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

まふゆ | https://e-hentai.org/s/4fa199d823/1478900-5

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[dull garnet]

haha whoops

[sly elk]

soooo

The first is the signing key that digitally signs MSI firmware updates to cryptographically prove that they are legitimate ones from MSI rather than a malicious impostor from a threat actor.

[potent arrow]

MSI

[sly elk]

so these boards will be excellent modding boards

[potent arrow]

ME SCREAMING MSI CONTINUES

[sly elk]

and the firmware is basically 'open source' in terms of modding now

and everyone's complaining?

[lime wasp]

Yes

Because a massive security issue is more important than modding

[sly elk]

times sure changed lol

to be fair, it's kind of a problem if your board can be updated from within windows

[lime wasp]

Quick Question; I can use the motherboard box as an impromptu test bench with no real issues right?

Considering the boxes themselves are non-conductive and anti-static?

[sly elk]

otoh if it can't, or can be disabled from the firmware level........

I'm not sure. I recall someone at work discouraging the practice of setting ESD sensitive items on top of empty ESD bags

[cerulean talon]

I'd throw down the ESD bag if it's short time ontop of the box, black ink is often /slightly/ conductive.

Or just grab an amazon box.

[sly elk]

another thing you could consider doing is just screwing motherboard standoffs onto the board to elevate it off the surface

that's how it's usually done with dev boards 😄

[lime wasp]

I do have a couple of Amazon boxes

Its just the parts for the build I'm doing arrived, but the case isn't due for another week (Thanks Newegg) and I figured I might as well put the rest together and make sure it works no?

[cerulean talon]

If it's a full week, I'd probally at least generally lightly slap it together RN, otherwise, if it's monday/tuesday next week I'd just wait, as I usually have to disassemble everything again to get it in into the case.

!hank

[opal panther]

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[cerulean talon]

FINALLY SOME PURPLE.

[lime wasp]

Newegg says arriving Thursday so....

[cerulean talon]

Could go either way.

[late basalt]

I would wait

Easier to mount everything in the case, particularly the cooling fan

More so if any of the standoffs would be under something

The only caveat I have is make sure the case has an “open” back or w/e you want to call it for the motherboard. I had to remove some vram sinks to get my fan mounted, which would have been impossible if I couldn’t access those screws from the back of the board

[lime wasp]

Gonna fit this in an ITX build

[sly elk]

hehe

[lime wasp]

Which side should I put the OS drive on vs. the storage drive?

[cerulean talon]

Doesn't matter.

M.2 slots are generally identical, all 4x PCIe

[lime wasp]

I meant should the OS Drive or the Storage/Game drive get the heatsink?

[cerulean talon]

Oh, generally storage/game. OS tends to be pretty idle.

[lime wasp]

Alright then

[deep sapphire]

Lego sex toy

[inland mauve]

if you're brave

[solid anchor]

Anyone have any idea why YouTube app keeps giving me this error when I try to upload a video?

[hollow hamlet]

what the actual fuck

"Thank you for upgrading to Windows 11" after I click a ToS last updated in 2021

I did not click to install it

STOP

It's downloading Windows 11, 22H2, what the fuck, I didn't click a damn thing

what the hell, it's just downloading it... right? It's not a forced update is it?

It's at 8%... and I have no option to stop it. wtf

99% ;;

aaaaand uit's installing

There was no option. It was accept or shutdown

Like the last time it did this, the "Accept" was in a spot usually saved for "Decline", but this time there is no decline button

or, was

[cerulean talon]

Just enjoy the windows 11 pain.

!hank

[opal panther]

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[royal forge]

👏👏

[royal forge]

I refuse

[cerulean talon]

As if you get to choose, unless you go to a superior OS.

[royal forge]

What, Linux?

Or apple

!hank

[opal panther]

ツユハ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94367640

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[royal forge]

The stupid taskbar etc is just.. the weirdest design choice to me

Why change, again

[cerulean talon]

That's why I run a patcher.

[royal forge]

Do tell

Im not happy with Win 11's ad bollocks and their task bar, but a friend CLAIMS apart from that its virtually identical to 10

[cerulean talon]

https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher Is what I run, gives me a win 10 start menu and task bar.

Lets me set the screen it's on like 10, etc.

Screen pinning was my biggest whine about 11, and this fixed it so shrug

[royal forge]

Ah

Could u close that productivity stuff?

As in, get rid of the ads etc?

[cerulean talon]

That's just the 10 pinning stuff.

So yes.

[royal forge]

Ooh

Okok

[royal forge]

Neato

Hmmm

I'm still thinkin on it

[cerulean talon]

Tbh, it's not /awful/ once you patch it back to being more like 10. 😄

[royal forge]

Ngl, i'll probab only jump once i'm forced to

But why patch it when u can just USE 10, ya know?

While it's still viable, of course

[cerulean talon]

Because there's no reason for me to stay on 10 when I'm doing janky shit to 11. 😄

At the end of the day, the longer I wait the more annoyed I end up being when inevtably, I'm forced to change at a time I consider to be inconvenient.

[royal forge]

Ah.. i getchu

[cerulean talon]

The 10-11 transition came on a reinstall for me.

So it was worth just doing it to 11 and getting over the pain.

[royal forge]

Ice

Im lookin at 4090 prices now

I kinda want one

[cerulean talon]

Mmmmm. 4090.

Next month maybe.

[royal forge]

Damn

[cerulean talon]

I gotta redo my monitors first.

[royal forge]

Lmao

Ooof

[cerulean talon]

They'd gimp the poor 4090 down to 4k30.

[royal forge]

Im tryin to convince myself to get a second monitor

[cerulean talon]

Mine's around 1.3 4090's, so I know some of that pain.

[royal forge]

I have zero properties so..

No mortgage

I really oughta pick up some properties

[cerulean talon]

The 4k's are on HDMI atm, and it's old-ass HDMI that only supports 4k30

So gaming on them is literal pain.

[hollow hamlet]

Disaster averted. Rollback successful

🙏

[royal forge]

Hyte sure has expensive kepcaps eh

[sly elk]

i appreciate how dumb the input selector hotkeys on my alienware 25" monitors are: If you select the input that is currently active by accident, the screen will blank out and reactivate said input

[modest moss]

group policy would prevent that in future

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-kyaru-priconne-shock-huh-gif-24683395

the real meta here is to use linux with fapolicyd and a strict whitelist that only runs binaries where the md5sum has already been verified

bwahahhaha

'what do you mean I can't run python scripts?!'

[modest moss]

or just set a group policy that'll keep me on 22h2 until I tell it otherwise

ez

[sly elk]

oh

I like that idea hahaha

@tame fulcrum what's your opinion about 7950x vs 13900k? 😄

[real edge]

with amd you really got to let them cook for a gen or two before buying

never buy the first gen of anything from amd

first new nm process and new AM5 platform? wait a generation before buying if you really want

makes sure stuff is ironed out and fixed

first gen ryzen had problems as well

not surprising first gen AM5 has its own

[sharp star]

I think AM5 is fine, it's just Asus decided it was a good idea to overjuice the X3D chips and make them explode

[real edge]

I hope intel pursues longevity the same as amd

would incentivize me more to get one of their CPUs

I like fat caches though

[sharp star]

tfw you're trying to convince someone looking at handheld PCs and he goes for the ROG Ally because he thinks Windows on handhelds is a good thing

And that the Steam Deck supposedly cannot run Windows natively

[real edge]

knowing asus they will support the ally for a year or two and then forget it even exists

[sharp star]

yeah lol

or it'll explode for some reason

the review batch has QC issues too

[sly elk]

i saw several people on reddit say they were a huge fan of asus and stuff and were looking forward to the ROG ally and I'm sitting there wondering why

[real edge]

having a more powerful steam deck is appealing

but

it being asus is a thing to be concerned about

[sly elk]

asus product = a sus product

[real edge]

[sly elk]

there's an nzxt board for $299 that also happens to have overnight delivery as an option

i'm pretty sure it's just an asrock z790 of some flavor or another though

[sly elk]

huh that $550 13700k + asus z790-p prime + gskill 32gb ddr5-6000 bundle at microcenter is back in stock again

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/hella-sus-among-us-imposter-impostor-digibyte-gif-19824591

[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

しょこらて | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92829934

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/16217269

[livid dune]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

十神乃 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95147043

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[sly elk]

Yeah so you would prefer a 3060ti and 13700k to a 12400f or 13400f and 4070?

-facepalm-

https://tenor.com/view/alisaie-final-fantasy14-faceplant-faceplam-ff14-gif-24387549

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

黒宮かぼす | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100558592

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[sly elk]

-ponders going full dumb and buying a z790 aorus master-

oh

people complain about coil whine with those 😦

[deep sapphire]

whyyyyy

he could've died

[sly elk]

yea that's dumb

-pokes ice- how do you like your msi board?

hmm are you using a z690 carbon?

the z790 version of that is one of my top contenders....

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MPG-Z790-Edge-Motherboard/dp/B0BL92SPJQ

my only beef is they don't have the post code display 😦

the carbon does and it's not that much more

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Z790-Motherboard-Supports-Processors/dp/B0BHCJ1QK8

I'm kicking myself for not buying that last night when amazon had a $30 coupon making it 399

oh. newegg has a $30 coupon.......

tbh i'll pay the $30 not to deal with newegg on a $400 part

[late basalt]

but you'd trust amazon for a ~$450 purchase instead?

[sly elk]

but then if i'm looking at those, the z790 tamohawk is 259

I mean what are my choices

worst case, I buy whatever and get a brick in the box. Amazon would likely refund me. Best Buy wouldn't. And Microcenter is a good 1.5 hour drive.

(with traffic it's probably more like 3 hours)

and unless i get one of those meme bundle deals it's going to cost the same >>

[late basalt]

amazon would likely deny the refund because you sent a brick in a box back

[sly elk]

lol

[late basalt]

best buy you'd at least NOT get a brick

[sly elk]

no you can get bricks from best buy

[late basalt]

yea, if you're dumb and buy openbox/refurb

[sly elk]

if I was patient i'd also add B&H as an option since I have their 'no sales tax' card lol

[royal forge]

just build ur own mobo 5head

just fly out to the factory and buy it from them directly

EZ

[sly elk]

also best buy's 15 day return policy :S

[late basalt]

more likely to work than a custom built laptop

[late basalt]

afaik you'd be able to take advantage of the RMA process irrespective of it

[royal forge]

tbh

[sly elk]

haaaa now that I look at it

[royal forge]

i've not touched that laptop since i got my new PC

so pleased with it

and now people cant force me to bring my laptop to work

[sly elk]

the msi tomahawk, edge, and carbon all pretty much offer the same thing

[royal forge]

[sly elk]

unless i'm missing something the specs are almost exactly the same

the carbon has 2 extra usb 3.2 gen 2 ports

there's also that 7 segment post code display on the carbon

but that's it for $200 more haha

[late basalt]

tbh, as long as the core specs are the same, you're paying more/less for what's basically a difference in paint theme

[late basalt]

ngl, that seems excessively dumb and unnecessary

leds marking the post process or highlighting the problematic component follow the ever appropriate KISS methods

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly elk]

yea.

[late basalt]

manufacturer-specific POST error bullshit should have been eradicated a decade ago at minimum

[sly elk]

so the tomahawk is $259, the edge is $364, and the carbon is $429

admittedly the edge offers style for that $105 lol

vs

[late basalt]

good fucking luck mounting the cpu cooler without having to remove some/all of those sinks

[sly elk]

i bet a lot of people would prefer that minimalist look though

eh, I use an aio 🙂

[late basalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i had enough issues myself that it just reinforces the reason i took so long to upgrade from my 3rd gen i3

need to take long enough between upgrades i forget how much of a fucking pain in the ass that process was

[sly elk]

ah i see, the edge & carbon have 5 m.2 slots, the carbon has a slightly higher max overclock (7600mhz vs 7200mhz .. wtf?! who does that?!) and the carbon has pcie 5.0 x4 available on one of the m.2 slots...

[late basalt]

at any rate, i need to be awake in less than 6 hours so... i should probably finally go to sleep

[sly elk]

sweet dreams!

also if i do go the 13900k route, i'm going to be heading to bb anyway. amazon doesn't have any in stock lol.

[late basalt]

havent had any in decades i embody the phrase "out like a light"

https://tenor.com/bFcg8.gif

[sly elk]

or do I give in and do the meme build

https://tenor.com/view/telmo-coca-harina-raquetaso-esnifar-gif-25660568

[deep sapphire]

thats a lot of money for a C36 kit

[sly elk]

the corsair junk is always overpriced lol

vengeance with the same rating is 135.98

actually been on the fence about the looks of either haha

112.99 for the xmp stuff instead of the expo stuff

[real edge]

6000MHz cl30

by g.skill should be around the same

and better

[deep sapphire]

AMD memory timings are a huge ordeal

you should be getting CL30

[sly elk]

30-38-38-96?

[deep sapphire]

you will net like

5-10 percent

performance

[real edge]

https://www.amazon.com/VENGEANCE-C30-36-36-76-Optimized-Compatible-Performance/dp/B0BPTKD797/ref=sr_1_7?crid=28Q0J7WPJOLWQ&keywords=6000MHz+cl30&qid=1683968416&sprefix=6000mhz+cl30%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-7#customerReviews

if you want corsair

1.4v is a tad scary

but

you can use buildzoids timings

and they work

allegedly

[sly elk]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF8FVLSL

how about that?

[real edge]

yeah that is good

I do not see any buying options on my side

[sly elk]

funny lol

hmmmmm

wonder how big a performance dump i'd take if i just didn't use expo at all

[real edge]

sadly, fairly big if you are using AMD

[sly elk]

and on a 13900k? 😄

i feel kinda hank-ish here while reading about all the expo drama

too many

"I did a thing and now the computer won't turn on" kinda posts X_X

and a lot of them that thing was "I turned on EXPO" lol

[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

okiq | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/82016679

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[hard drift]

just update your bios

[sly elk]

Huzzah I’ll give it a shot

Good thing I have my Mac Pro lol

https://tenor.com/view/onimai-mahiro-gaming-keyboard-anime-gif-27351873

[hard drift]

[fair parcel]

!hank

[opal panther]

汰 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95282300

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[cerulean talon]

Blessed with purple in the morning

!hank

[opal panther]

Evo_TK | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87800583

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[hard drift]

!hank

[opal panther]

まっちゃ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93998638

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[deep sapphire]

!hank

[opal panther]

妄想 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/83344243

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[random marlin]

!hank

[opal panther]

几乎U糖 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87139963

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[deep sapphire]

booba

[hard drift]

!hank

[opal panther]

ツユハ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86538479

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[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

ももまろん | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/80271873

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[cerulean talon]

I need to make a purple-cats-only API for whenever I use !hank smh.

[deep sapphire]

!hank

[opal panther]

Mauve | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/85572830

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[lime wasp]

This is fuckin comical

[inland mauve]

lmao which one is that?

[lime wasp]

7900xtxc red devil

[inland mauve]

holy shit

a worthy opponent for the 4090 in terms of size

[sly elk]

!hank

[opal panther]

SAHARA | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93692208

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[odd sand]

You got a little something sticking out of your GPU there, might want to take a look at that. Maybe it's some excess silicon that wasn't shaved off in the molding process

[sly elk]

Damn that looks familiar lol

[lime wasp]

My cobbled test bench to make sure it all works

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/slow-loop-koharu-minagi-anime-girl-fighto-excited-gif-24462330

@lime wasp is it a 7800x3d? 😄

i bought a 7800x3d

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

甘城なつき | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/76707946

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[sly elk]

the motherboard and the cpu cost about the same

[lime wasp]

Yep

[sly elk]

huzzah!

did i get the same ram as you? XD

[odd sand]

My friend recently upgraded to one as well from an 8700K

[lime wasp]

If its the 32GB version then yeah

[sly elk]

ah it went back to 2-6pm lol

ignoring the 7 series drama the other thing I'm worried about here is it only has 8 cores

it's basically the modern day equivalent of my 9700k 😄

but that's ok because I only use it for gaming anyway.

i'm not looking forward to AMD's style of heatsink/waterblock mount

tthey look so stupid 😄

I was stunned that AM5 still uses them

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-cpu-kill-gif-22236310

[sly elk]

ha amazon has the z690 kingpin in stock again for 399 >>

that wit a 13900k would make a fun build too

oh well, got the 7800x3d coming and I really like the look of that carbon board anyway lol

for $439 it should've come with the damn power/reset buttons on the board though

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-lee-super-kazuya-kazuya-gachimuchi-gachi-gif-22029354

AMD

thought we were friends

[sly elk]

oh we are, did you not see my rambling about it? XD

[deep sapphire]

no I've been doing errands all day

what were you rambling about

[sly elk]

i almost bought a 13900k instead

I just really don't want to deal with a 300w cpu

i know it could be tweaked to not be 300w though

[deep sapphire]

it only operates at 300w when using all core synthetic benchmark

[sly elk]

pretty easily....

[deep sapphire]

idle is like 10w

[sly elk]

let's see what happens lol

i bought it from amazon and can pretty easily just send it back if I don't like it

admittedly I was feeling very impulsive (I really wanted to build something today) and the immediate Z790 options weren't quite what I wanted

i like that evga z690 but it wouldn't arrive till later in the week if I bought it. Also it cheaps out on stuff like the sound equipment to get that XOC thing

[kindred brook]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225427813416?hash=item347c8b7428:g:~TgAAOSwtHRj7ryJ&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4IHOkumUfRMN7IC9Tb%2B5rVO9dANwk0dVpEmYaLfdv8T14EAuLBYGkY1OrEY5AnykqSI2cVZqjDNlfFtjZLVF9lJ5wXL%2B26e%2FJtNIiL7%2BD%2FCM48xLOcEURLIOtjAUA3CneoOOZ19TLHOEByzUoBeM8IPLggLmFoC7AB479WnI6xxUktKjxiuGp4CK%2Bbz4ALH0Xm4p9b8PC6DRWVRFI5n5a0CJZQuUH9TnssXYamsktXvjS2pq8Gsg3Ya8Dyvk2JPOJpZRzxLLaJp7B9GzzYk114E0u9nQsqu%2FSHglD9WgN5Yp|tkp%3ABFBMkIHz7oJi

has hdmi 2.1

[sly elk]

and the msi z790s they had the tomahawk and the edge but not the carbon, and damnit, i wanted the carbon

[kindred brook]

for consoles

😮

[sly elk]

and somehow none of the memory I was looking at for same day delivery was on the boards QVL ><

which made me laugh

[deep sapphire]

thats a lot of words for "I didnt buy intel"

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-stallon-cobra-memes-gif-18767184

[sly elk]

-chuckle-

I haven't even received it yet sooo

[deep sapphire]

mail man probably got mauled by a pit bull or something

get your money back and get the 13900K

[sly elk]

ya know last time I did this I ordered ryzen and canceled the order lmao

[minor hollow]

damn he forgot to equip the flower crown

pibbles would never

probably a chihuahua

[sly elk]

ahhh

almost halfway through the delivery window and it hasn't even hit out for delivery

i wonder if it's gonna end up getting delivered tomorrow

if that happens i'm going to best buy

Long-term quality may not have been up there with the Lexus LS400, but the Park Avenue Ultra definitely gave you a lot of features for your money. It came with automatic climate control, anti-lock brakes, digital gauges, and GM’s DynaRide suspension. You also got big, comfy leather seats with 20-way power adjustments for both the driver and front passenger.

with the weirdest controls i've ever seen

i also find it interesting there appears to be no power way to move the seats back and forward

or the seat up and down (just the tilt of the bottom)

[lime wasp]

Now I just gotta wait for the case to be here and my PC is complete

Only if two things go right;

1: GPU gotta fit in it.
2: AIO gotta fit in it.

If the AIO doesn't fit that'll be an easy fix since I'll just get some Noctua Slim fans and call it good.

If the GPU doesn't fit I'll uh.....

[dull garnet]

Do you ever plan anything?

[sly elk]

it's probably gonna be fine

@lime wasp which case again? XD

I thought you picked one where you could top mount or front mount the rad

but then I saw your edge-I board

[lime wasp]

The risks I take are calculated.
My math just could use someone to double check it from time to time.....

[lime wasp]

Meshroom S

[cerulean talon]

No reason to plan a PC build, just slap it together and pray.

😄

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/alisaie-final-fantasy14-faceplant-faceplam-ff14-gif-24387549

[sly elk]

that looks like it has at least a couple ways to mount rads?

what color did you get?

it reminds me of the muticolor stuff walmart/target sell during 'back to school' lol

[lime wasp]

Black

[sly elk]

oh com eon

coulda at least picked black n yellow or something lol

oh well, it's your pc 😄

[lime wasp]

It only comes in Black/Grey/Blue/Green

[sly elk]

there's options for black outside and yellow or grey frame

man it' lame that best buy only sells 5200mhz and 5600mhz ram

[hard drift]

[sly elk]

or do I just cancel it and go to microcenter....

[cerulean talon]

Your suffering empowers me. nods

[sly elk]

lol

oh come on this is the epitome of first world problems

i'm still happy XD

[cerulean talon]

No, no, the epitome is when the order gets /split/

And you get one at 5 PM and the other at 10 PM

[sly elk]

HAHAHA

[cerulean talon]

Bonus points if it's everything other than something normally useless, like a hard-drive.

But it's annoying that it comes later, so you don't build it because you have to wait on the drive.

[sly elk]

there are things that limit enjoying the scenario lol

[cerulean talon]

(Not delaying cleaning my desk, nope)

[sly elk]

like thsi stupid

13900k vs 7800x3d vs 7950x or something of that sort haha

oh yea speaking of being delivered at 5pm

[cerulean talon]

Sorry, those are weird ways to spell Epyc 7763.

Need real cores.

[sly elk]

hehe

[lime wasp]

Okay, so is it normal to be getting GPU Junc. temp of 95* and GPU Temp 75* when the card is functionally in an open air bench right now?

[sly elk]

Package is out for delivery.

yes!

[hard drift]

i mean it's not terrible

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

紙守くーらく | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95554720

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[modest moss]

!hank

[hard drift]

lmao

the braincell is shared between you two

[modest moss]

kupo pls

!hank

[hard drift]

!hank

[cerulean talon]

Nah, Shue's got the pink braincell, I'm the purple braincell.

[hard drift]

!hank

damn it bot

[modest moss]

!hank

[hard drift]

!hank

!hank

damn it lol

!hank

[celest violet]

I wish 100% keebs were more common, its almost always like 70% or tkl

[hard drift]

1 minute cooldown is a lie

[modest moss]

Impala this is unacceptable

[hard drift]

!hank

[opal panther]

MAKKI | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/88249391

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[hard drift]

there we go

[cerulean talon]

That 60second timers is ACCURATE.

[hard drift]

IT'S A LIE

[modest moss]

as accurate as the mute timer probably

[cerulean talon]

Hey, I de-offset the 1 second delay

😄

[hard drift]

!hank

[opal panther]

はすみ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97837511

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/15500492

[buoyant falcon]

Windows says my PC doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Windows 11. I'm not really sure that I want to upgrade to Windows 11, but I have no idea how this could be the case.

[hard drift]

need tpm access

what do you have?

[buoyant falcon]

Says it cannot be found. I might have it turned off.

[hard drift]

what cpu do you have

[buoyant falcon]

i9

[hard drift]

that means nothing

10900 9900 1700 😐

[buoyant falcon]

Intel Core i9-9900K

[hard drift]

must just be off then

[buoyant falcon]

Yeah probably, but before I turn it back on, how is Windows 11 at the moment? Pretty stable or should I probably wait for a bit?

[hard drift]

you atleast have support though

[hard drift]

i mean i'm using it and have had no problems but your experience may vary

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

桜花 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86824721

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[paper tusk]

22h2 is stable, dumb default ui aside

may update (not out yet) has some good fixes. not sure on adaptive contrast (for laptops to coax a couple more minuets on battery)

[modest moss]

!hank

[opal panther]

ももしき | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100920115

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[sly elk]

!hank

[opal panther]

最poi的Nia | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/81677999

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[modest moss]

!hank

[opal panther]

ましろしき | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/90473274

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[sly elk]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162036

fancy

$499 for a board with a built in waterblock lol

[sly elk]

man for 439 that msi motherboard really didn't come with much haha

[deep sapphire]

I paid

179 for my

intel board

just sayin

[sly elk]

didn't you buy the 550 bundle?

[deep sapphire]

yeah

well actually

no

cause they didnt have the ram kit in stock lol

[sly elk]

oh that's bullshit 😦

so you had to pay the same thing and not get the ram?

[deep sapphire]

but they configured something to make it close in price

[sly elk]

oh that's good!

i'm glad

[deep sapphire]

I asked if I could just grab similar spec ram to get the bundle deal but they said they got in trouble for doing that in the past

[sly elk]

yea what got me into this in the first place was the stupid $549 bundle hahahahahah

because I saw the 799 13900k bundle and was going to buy that

anyway, nbd. the important part is the motherboard 🙂

there were a few silly things I wanted and I was willing to pay extra to get them x_X

[buoyant falcon]

Whelp, talk about getting mixed signals:

[sly elk]

It’s time

[buoyant falcon]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PotableIncompatibleAmericankestrel-size_restricted.gif

[real edge]

what are those white blocky things

[sly elk]

The power cables?

[real edge]

ohh those are power cables? they looked weird at first glance

that is quite a lot of cables going onto the gpu

[buoyant falcon]

Is there any reason to suspect that the 50 series may require a motherboard upgrade?

[real edge]

considering the fact that even the 4090 does not get bottlenecked with PCIe 3.0

probably won't need a mobo upgrade

we will see

[buoyant falcon]

Mine's got a 4.0, so I should probably be fine.

Got an ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus.

[real edge]

my b550 board has PCIe 4.0 thankfully

[sly elk]

Man I already cut myself 😦

[royal forge]

Tech demands blood

[muted spoke]

I... fondly... remember the days of building rigs before they bent all the metal away. lost quite a lot of blood

[royal forge]

Sacrifice is needed

[sly elk]

Also I hate moles connectors

Screwdriver time

[deep sapphire]

LOL I cut myself installing the IO bracket

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

kittyyyy | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/79965126

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[cerulean talon]

Your blood sacrifice brought cute, all is proper

[real edge]

the case looks smol

[cerulean talon]

It’s a mid tower if I don’t miss my mark

Those isolation chambers are freakin huge tho, kinda like ‘em

[sly elk]

That moment of truth

And we’re locked in lol

I need to figure out how to mount my water cooler now 😄

[sly elk]

Wut ok this is cool

M.2 socket 1 has a tool less mechanism for removing the heat sink

Yep that’s cool

Dude wtf

[dull garnet]

what?

laptop styleee

[sly elk]

yea aint that weird?! and annoying

it's the dumbest thing i've seen ;_;

means instead of getting a battery from walmart you have to order that :S

[deep sapphire]

Nah you don’t

You can ghetto rig it with electrical tape

I did it before lol

You just tape the leads to the right sides

[odd sand]

With the 9th gen it depends on your particular motherboard. Mine didn't have the software TPM, but I could have bought a TPM for the header if I wanted to. Otherwise I think you can just bypass the check with a registry tweak during install

[sly elk]

sigh

one of the 2 screws for my video card support bracket disappeared 😦

lol I got sidetracked and needed to help someone with something

[odd sand]

They're usually pretty standard, unless you don't have the "box o' random computer screws" assembled from the last 4 builds that carry over /s

[odd sand]

One of these months I'll finish putting together my other desk and get my setup finished

[odd sand]

Fake picture. Where's the smoke and fire!?

Remember to set the EXPO profile

Says 4800 there and I assume it's supposed to be 6000

[sly elk]

sadly not going to finish tonight. but at least the hardware is ready lol

[dull garnet]

40c idle

[sly elk]

yea currently says cpu core temp 42c, mobo temp 45c

-scratches his head-

water cooler says its liquid temp is 34c idling though

that's.. pretty normal for me

(it's really warm in this room atm, probably 82 or so)

[real edge]

40c idle is not unusual even for air cooling tbf, gaming is where it starts to matter

[dull garnet]

you're in windows

[sly elk]

and ya have to start wondering why I was concerned about thermals

I didn't want to change cases to something more airy lol

and I'm pretty sure anything hotter would require it at some point

[real edge]

I have a case that is many years old and weird

you do not need a modern case

as long as your current one is not choking its fine

[sly elk]

i also might not have done very well with the pasting or contact, but based on the 35c liquid temp I'm going to claim victory there haha

!! lol

windows 11 setup: A media driver your compute needs is missing

well then XD

[real edge]

[sly elk]

looks like it didn't like the usb i made. Whoops. 😄

I should've done this with the old build before changing things out.

oh well, will worry about it tomorrow xD

[sharp star]

kaboom

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

アオね | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102896212

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/68838030

[livid dune]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-anger-gif-19392068

[royal forge]

Purple catto

[torpid kayak]

hm is lighting bar for montior necessary? 🤔

[royal forge]

@cerulean talon

[paper tusk]

nice

[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

栗生千秋 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95879737

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/45147804

[livid dune]

Nice

[deep sapphire]

nice

!hank

[opal panther]

白妙ぬん | https://twitter.com/_nun_02/status/1499998947510603776

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://twitter.com/_nun_02

[sharp star]

why am I suddenly checking my CPU's VSOC out of paranoia now

Peak was 1.245V

[deep sapphire]

AMD users

[sharp star]

basically

[deep sapphire]

I just turn on my PC and play games

[sharp star]

more specifically Asus AM5 users

but I'm on a Gigabyte board

[deep sapphire]

I warned you all

but you picked the wrong side

https://tenor.com/view/jim-lahey-lahey-i-am-the-liquor-drunk-car-gif-14255433

[cerulean talon]

That is some top quality purple. nods

[cerulean talon]

It’s like you want things you don’t have fun with. Chevys, Intel, where’s the risk they explode every 30 seconds?

!hank

[opal panther]

Alpha Beast | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96985491

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/29153140

[kindred brook]

Cam I use my pc as a capture card to stream Zelda

I mean my 3080 to

Ti

Or do I need like an actual capture card

[cerulean talon]

You’d need a video capture device of some sort

[livid dune]

Nice

[livid dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/934119001280364594.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[dull garnet]

or yuzu

[cerulean talon]

If they'd asked for emulation options maybe. But they asked about capture, so that's the answer they got.

[dull garnet]

emulation is always an option for capture

[modest moss]

is that new one already emulated properly then?

[lime wasp]

So a deeper tech question; can RAM designed for AMD Expo still work with Intel XMP on an Intel Board?

[deep sapphire]

yes

all XMP/Expo do is allow you to overclock your memory without overclocking the bus speed and thus your CPU

when you see your memory speed on the package, it doesnt actually run at that speed out of the box

it runs at whatever the CPU designated memory bus speed is set at

[late basalt]

The cooling liquid vs cpu should, imo, always have SOME difference in temperature because the cooling fluid would radiate some heat between the block and radiator

[deep sapphire]

so you get the advertised speed you have to enable either or

[late basalt]

Plus the cpu temp is monitored more directly anyways afaik

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RYwaDaIOwk

LMAO

[late basalt]

I’m surprised harbor freight didn’t do it first

[deep sapphire]

nah this is one makita's famous niche products

they also make a fridge and coffee maker

[late basalt]

Coffee maker is actually more of a “makes a lot of sense” thing than a portable nuke-a-pocket

[cerulean talon]

The british coffee dude has a great review of the coffee maker.

[sharp star]

man I was strongly considering getting an ROG Ally and installing HoloISO/debloating it but recent events (or rather years of Asus being shit) have made me glad I have a Deck instead

Asus loves putting out products and not even supporting them too

I’m gonna imagine that official support for the Ally is gonna be absolutely terrible

[potent arrow]

ITS TIME

ITS FUCKING TIME

@native basalt I FOUND A DEVUCE FOR MY SCHEMES

[livid dune]

SEX

[sharp star]

I saw Jay's video on his experiences with Asus

Even though I don't watch Jay religiously it's like

how does Asus fuck it up so badly

[potent arrow]

Lol apparently even LTT is pissed

[sharp star]

[dull garnet]

it isn't much different to botw so yes

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-steve-intel-gamers-nexus-thanks-steve-gif-2570818544130153718

[modest moss]

isn't listed as tested yet

[dull garnet]

https://twitter.com/yuzuemu/status/1657458477080666112?s=20

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[modest moss]

they should update their site obvs

[dull garnet]

who looks at websites anymore

cringe!

[livid dune]

Gotta download it somehow

[potent arrow]

Yuzu is asking to get sued lmao

[lime wasp]

So I put my G.Skill Tridents which say AMD Expo Cert into an Intel Board and turn on XMP it'll still work?

[deep sapphire]

yes

[dull garnet]

I'm a good boy anyway

[deep sapphire]

it doesnt matter

if its DDR spec

it'll work

[dull garnet]

AMD DIMMs will short an Intel board and vice versa

[lime wasp]

Do you mean "short" as in not get full speed or "short" as in expensive electronic die and sadness?

[dull garnet]

the latter but also that isn't true

[lime wasp]

I still haven't played BotW yet.

I think I'll do it after I finish DS3 finally.

Or maybe take an RPG break and do Bioshock Infinite finally, then BotW.

[lime wasp]

Why would you say it then?

[potent arrow]

Speed is always gaslighting

[dull garnet]

it amuses me

[modest moss]

I mean Hank did already answer it

[deep sapphire]

I will hurt you

[dull garnet]

[native basalt]

Geezus christ.

[potent arrow]

It's not plugged into mains

I can blow shit up with it

[cerulean talon]

Why does being plugged into mains matter?

Also, the wattage is gonna be comically low.

[odd sand]

I think they were asking if it would still have an XMP profile if you used it on a intel board. The answer to that is probably no. So it would be running at like JDEC minimum instead 💩

[deep sapphire]

people make things over complicated

just buy some shit

and send it

[lime wasp]

Well I don't want my 6000mhz RAM to get stuck at like 4600 or something

If it won't work properly ya know?

[cerulean talon]

XMP profiles are just automated, you can still do it by hand.

It's not like they're magic or anything, just presets.

[deep sapphire]

it will work fine

this whole optimized meme came because AMD had dogshit memory controlers

and still do

[cerulean talon]

Intel did XMP.

Don't get me wrong, all memory controllers are ass.

[deep sapphire]

XMP is literally set it and forget it

[cerulean talon]

XMP is not set and forget.

[deep sapphire]

yes it is

it requires zero knowledge

[cerulean talon]

My DDR5 on INTEL would like a word with you.

[deep sapphire]

you turn it on

[odd sand]

I've never had it fail to hold at XMP settings 🤷‍♀️

[deep sapphire]

put the memory clock rating

[cerulean talon]

And it crashes my entire machine, you're correct.

[deep sapphire]

and save

and close

[cerulean talon]

DDR5 memes tho.

[deep sapphire]

okay fair I dont have enough experience with DDR5 but

with my experience going back to DDR2

thats how it always worked

DDR3 on X58 was set it and forget it

[cerulean talon]

DDR 3/4 is alright at it.

[odd sand]

If it crashes on XMP then you return that shit bc they listed it would work at those timings

[cerulean talon]

5 is just hot ass.

From my understanding, it's mostly due to the off-board voltage control setup now.

So it acts hyper weird, but first-gen releases on intel ;.;

[sharp star]

EXPO is fine on my rig

but I can't speak for others so eh

[cerulean talon]

Tbh, I'm sure it'll be fine in a generation or two.

I just got memed by the early-adopter syndrome.

[sharp star]

I don't think my 7950X3D is gonna go up in smoke anytime soon

so that's good

[sly elk]

I have such mixed feelings about those light bars!

[sly elk]

Right, my point was that if the water block wasn’t making good contact with the cpu, then the liquid temp would be a bit lower than it was 🙂

[sly elk]

Idk I think ryobi has Makita beat in the weird shit department

[sly elk]

Use how they support the ROG phones as a reference

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-popeil-set-it-and-forget-it-set-it-forget-it-showtime-rotisserie-gif-19856802

[sly elk]

I have heard of cases with intel chips where the memory controller is the worst part of the silicon lottery and your ability to hold good timing on the ram depends on your luck with the cpu

Again I think the ddr5 is a shit show when it comes to that

What I think is bullshit is these things advertise support for 4 sticks but then neither the intel or amd stuff can reliably drive 4 sticks in expo or xmp

https://tenor.com/view/rubbish-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-trash-you-suck-gif-5495325

Oh yeah and the memory controllers are only 2 channel

When x299 intels and x399 threadrippwrs were doing 4 channel memory

And here we are paying 500-700 for CPUs that only have 20-24 pcie lanes and 2 memory channels

https://tenor.com/view/middle-finger-anime-just-hate-that-gif-5717720

[modest moss]

my Asus, Intel, Nvidia rig just works, with xmp2, just turn it on and it's perfect

idk why y'all have such issues

[sly elk]

Honestly idk if I will yet lmao I haven’t tried

[modest moss]

it's almost as if @deep sapphire and I were right all along

[sly elk]

I’m talking about what I see and people saying not to do 4 ram sticks

[modest moss]

this isn't directed at you specifically, more the general regular populace of this channel

[sly elk]

Lol some mad lad did it: https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/13h9xrm/cozy_workplay_station/ they stuck rgb fans in a fractal north

[sharp star]

I’ve used two sticks with all my builds so far

[cerulean talon]

My intel, nvidia, asus rig black-screens on every boot if I turn on XMP. 😦

Also hyper-picky about BIOS, but that seems to be an issue w/ all the 12xxx series setups on intel DDR5

Which tells me it was a bad idea to early-adopt, but yolo.

[sly elk]

i think 4 sticks looks better :3

so i'm begrudgingly using 2

from what I gathered, 4 works ok as long as you don't use xmp/expo though, otherwise it might work at much lower than rated timings

[chrome oracle]

ive had bad experiences with both AMD Ryzen and Intel 12th gen in terms of memory controllers, with regards to the OC profiles (XMP and EXPO) running memory in an unstable state. my opinion is that it really comes down to the board and how much they've cut corners on QAing sticks of memory (some not only rely on OC profiles for compatibility but will also manually change values without notating this)

and this isnt new either. i used to work in enterprise level logistics and hardware support. we'd have problems with Dell machines having memory failures often and it was tied to default BIOS settings. all of them were Intel-based

in other words, use what works and do the best you can to research and try platforms. sometimes they suck. the brand fanboyism is childish

[sly elk]

-chuckle- one thing I am curious about, is if the ram I bought is even on the QVL hahahhahahaa

I haven't yet bothered to check

[chrome oracle]

i did that once by accident! it wasnt on the list. i had to manually set it and it was tedious af

settled at a lower clock speed and looser timings than whats on the packaging lol. quite an expensive mistake on my part

[sly elk]

ahh i think I found a solution to creating a windows 11 usb stick!