technology-discussion

[deep sapphire]

what year is the truck

[hollow hamlet]

2009

[deep sapphire]

ah alright, yeah thats a pretty common issue when they get around 130,000 miles or more

oil sending unit gets clogged with shit or gets oily gunk in the sensor

[hollow hamlet]

Don’t tell me it’s the full 100

[deep sapphire]

yeah, though I think if you use an AC Delco brand scan tool you can reset the code (AC Delco is GM's part division)

just go for a cruise

[umbral moss]

is that why their AA batteries suck lmao

[sly elk]

cruze*

[deep sapphire]

LOL yeah their batteries are pretty bad but they are cheap af

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-cut-you-knife-pocket-knife-violent-angry-gif-5212339

[deep sapphire]

I got like a 100 pack at Menards for like 12 bucks

[hollow hamlet]

It’s at 97,000 miles

[sly elk]

yea those batteries are shit

[deep sapphire]

make sure you keep up on oil changes cause thats around when they added the active fuel management

[umbral moss]

yeah, and 100 batteries is good for about 100 seconds in a flashlight

[sly elk]

they leak just like duracells do

[deep sapphire]

and they dont like poor oil

[sly elk]

I'll take my chances

[umbral moss]

project farm did a test and apparently energizer is the best value per dollar

[sly elk]

beats the hell out of paying amazon $45 for a chinese flashlight that uses sketchy looking li-ion cells

[deep sapphire]

or bring it here and I'll take it off and throw in the garbage

[sly elk]

and people are like

MY SCOIYUEFGWN SUPER LUMEN PUTS OUT 9500 LUMENS AND HAS GREEN LASERS

[deep sapphire]

energizer and duracell are worth the money

[sly elk]

ITS THE GREATEST EDC

[umbral moss]

just use a surefire torch

[sly elk]

and then they show me their like

pile of sketchy li-ions

[deep sapphire]

batteries really are "you get what you pay for"

[deep sapphire]

LOL

the battery banks

40,000 mah

!!!!

its like 8000

[umbral moss]

within reason, energizer lithium batteries are great but they're dogshit value per battery

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/house-burn-gif-15772947

[sly elk]

I bought a cheap li-ion flashlight off amazon and it came with one of these inside

and the cheapest usb-c to usb-c cable on earth

also the usb-c socket is very... sketchy

[umbral moss]

[sly elk]

i wonder what happens if you stick it inside something with a battery door and then just leave it plugged in

https://tenor.com/view/jacksparrow-jack_sparrow-captainjacksparrow-captainjack-captain_jack-gif-22081901

[umbral moss]

13S3P

[sly elk]

the best amazon review I saw recently was for some random power bank that could also be used as a jump starter for a car

[umbral moss]

you can make that yourself with a fucking soldering iron and some copper bars

[deep sapphire]

hey its got the european seal of approval! must be legit

[umbral moss]

it's 39 18650 cells lmao

[deep sapphire]

for 50 bucks I'd rather just buy it

[umbral moss]

you're going to gamble the shit catching fire over $50?

[sly elk]

man i'm trying to find it

but one of the reviews had a pic of the battery burst open and flames shooting out

[deep sapphire]

I already own a 4090

[umbral moss]

lithium do be like that

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dangerously-gif-20939086

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-gif-19968647

[umbral moss]

I'd also put a 4090 in a PC if I was building one today

but I'm trying to hold out for the 5090

maybe they'll finally learn to count to four memory controllers

[deep sapphire]

dont you have a 3090

[umbral moss]

no

[deep sapphire]

oh

[umbral moss]

I have a 10 series titan lmao

[deep sapphire]

[umbral moss]

for 1200 2023 dollars I get something like 3x the performance of my 1200 2016 dollars

[deep sapphire]

I probably gained about 6x the performance from my 1070

im happy

[umbral moss]

yeah, I like the 4090 conceptually but the VHPWR thing is a big thonker

hey let's put 450W through 8 tiny pins with 18 AWG crimps

at least route the VHPWR connector so the wire harness is supported by something other than prayer

tots and pears to your GPU, better buy a new one - leather jacketman, 2023

[chrome oracle]

local 7800X3D+4090 user

[umbral moss]

ah, the bad old days when the GTX480 was also notorious for catching fire

[chrome oracle]

ha! i remember those memes!

[umbral moss]

12 years later and they just added an extra 0

to the price too

[chrome oracle]

LOL

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

苔コッコ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/101733272

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/1568424

[umbral moss]

back when evga was a good company and they only made GPUs

[cerulean talon]

This lacks purple, and is therefore disappointing, but cute.

[chrome oracle]

rip evga gpus

[umbral moss]

rip evga in general

[chrome oracle]

did they go under entirely

[umbral moss]

after they bought abit they just turned into a shit company

[chrome oracle]

oh i see

they kinda fell off the map since they cut partnership with nvidia, unaware of what theyre doing now

[umbral moss]

garbo warranty policies, mediocre to poor products

yeah

what else do they make that's actually good or notable

[chrome oracle]

oof.. i mean yeah, but also oof

[umbral moss]

they're selling like, PSUs and peripherals now, but they don't actually make any of those lmao

[modest moss]

!hank

[opal panther]

タン塩 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92095146

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/37889769

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/combat-skirt-rwby-whiterose-gif-25270494

!hank

[opal panther]

Absent | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95408909

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/29498282

[wraith agate]

RWBY

[sly elk]

"it's a combat skirt!" was the first thing that jumped into my head when I saw shue's catgirl lol 😄

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-smoke-amd-toms-hardware-overheat-gif-21739686

[lime wasp]

This Hank Bot doesn't know what a REAL Catgirl looks like

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ghislaine-dedoldia-gif-20599265

ghislaine has a vibe

[deep sapphire]

I love this meme

[deep sapphire]

nice 7800X3D

[chrome oracle]

im still torn between just overclocking and undervolting the hell out of an i5-13600k or going with a stock (and of course undervolted) 7800X3D. the former is cheaper than the latter but of course would force a full mobo upgrade down the line

[cerulean talon]

Undervolting

[chrome oracle]

..but then again honestly feature-wise, id probably upgrade the mobo anyway for a different ryzen generation

[deep sapphire]

yeah but

you know with intel

you just turn your PC on

and it works

[chrome oracle]

with intel, theres a secondary concession

[deep sapphire]

AMD is like Ford, always in the shop

needing constant tweaks

just not good

we're adults we need to VALUE our time here

[chrome oracle]

12th and 13th gen sockets dont spread pressure or have full contact so you would have to buy a 3rd party bracket and mobo backplate

people see as much as 5-10C difference

[deep sapphire]

or

OR

just dont look at your temps

its like a frame rate counter

instead of enjoying the game

you sit there looking at the number

and you're like

[chrome oracle]

i run small form factor builds so temp management is something to consider more so than a full build

[deep sapphire]

EUGH THIS IS BULLSHIT I HAVE A 4090 I DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS

so you waste your whole afternoon

fucking around with settings

when you could've just cracked open a cold beer

and played some games

or a cold dew also a good choice

[chrome oracle]

if you pour the cold beer/dew on the 4090 that will cool it off a bit

technically liquid cooled

[deep sapphire]

good idea

[lime wasp]

Ew. Mountain Dew.

[deep sapphire]

HEY

YOU SHALL NOT DISGRACE THE BEVERAGE OF MIDWESTERN HICKS

[modest moss]

Eww ffxiv player

[deep sapphire]

ikr who plays that trash game

[chrome oracle]

im just at a crossroad. i play nothing but FF14, WoW, and Minecraft all with friends. Diablo IV later on.

I've settled on a 4070 and I run a 1440p monitor and plan to for the foreseeable future (upgrade path being higher refresh rates and better panel tech).

so both MMOs will be CPU bound. The obvious powerhouse choice is the 7800X3D due to the cache directly affecting performance in populated areas/combat, but the i5-13600K is better all around and I'm not usually sitting in a huge populated area nor do i have any issue already in raids/alliances.

i can see myself upgrading mobo generations anyway regardless of the platform because of feature sets and improvements over time.

[deep sapphire]

well all of those games will run fine on the most toaster of computers

so if your current setup isnt that old

then just save your money

[modest moss]

What's your current cpu

[chrome oracle]

im running on an m2 mac mini actually

[deep sapphire]

[chrome oracle]

not a very apple to apple (heh) comparison

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/americanpsycho-mrw-reaction-wow-nice-gif-4982477

Rejemah is a real tech enthusiast

[modest moss]

You sound like a 13600k and 4070 will be great then

[deep sapphire]

cause thats the only people who buy a mac mini

[chrome oracle]

i work in devops so yes 🙂

i just use what doesnt piss me off in the moment

[deep sapphire]

I still have my old airport extreme gateway somewhere

[chrome oracle]

oh wow, is it still in use?

[deep sapphire]

apple made great routers for the time

nah I have it in storage I think

I got it in like 2012 so its well obsolete now haha

[chrome oracle]

right! i know a guy who still uses it for his home wifi and its surprisingly decent

[deep sapphire]

apple was stupid to stop making them

[chrome oracle]

i still tell him to use something modern but its workable lol

yeah idk why they do the things they do 😦

[deep sapphire]

I know its ridiculously niche product segment for them but come on

they were so good

[chrome oracle]

their ego is usually left unchecked which is offputting

[deep sapphire]

pretty much

its almost impressive they even bother with the mac anymore

iPhone makes up like 80 percent of their profit lmao

[chrome oracle]

thanks, this will be the route i will take.

i can say macOS is very jank when you do anything beyond development/design or casual use. it singlehandedly ruins the incredible engineering of their ARM chips for me

[deep sapphire]

yeah I believe it, plus they pretty much force you to use things their way when they change architecture

I was there when they switched to intel and when they went 64 bit on iOS

[chrome oracle]

yes the arch changes are.. rough..

[deep sapphire]

like 6 month warning, alright fuck you everyone on 64 bit your legacy apps dont work anymore

[chrome oracle]

Rosetta 2 is incredible but they made it clear that it's temporary. And Bootcamp just doesnt exist anymore

[deep sapphire]

yeah its frustrating, and they still fail to entice 3rd party developers to make native mac apps

mac still has killer productivity exclusives sure but thats basically the only reason you'd take one over a PC

and while M1 was impressive as fuck when it launched, the PC market caught up pretty quick and now surpass all apple offerings in performance

though macs still lead in battery life

[chrome oracle]

SE actually makes me very disappointed with how they handled the FFXIV client for macOS.

It's actually the Windows client inside a WINE wrapper. So when you play, you're working through Rosetta -> WINE -> Game. Two separate translation layers that tank performance.

It's to the point that you have to use a 3rd party launcher (XIV on Mac) that uses a special WINE config that is friendlier to ARM and macOS. FPS doubles using that alone.

[deep sapphire]

haha I dunno if you played when the mac client first debuted

but it was so bad they had to pull it from sale and rework it

[chrome oracle]

oh yeah the power efficiency is nutty. my time with mac as a desktop is well over, but ill always have a macbook for that 15+ hour battery life

funny to imagine that the client used to be worse

[chrome oracle]

This is direct comparison to WoW which has a native ARM client running Metal and it runs magnificently. It really shows a glimpse of what their chips can do, but it's just kneecapped by macOS and lack of game dev support. What a shame.

[deep sapphire]

yeah I saw a video of shadowlands running on an M1

[sly elk]

let's start from the top here

[deep sapphire]

ardenwald was full 60

no dips

[sly elk]

the fucking game already costs $13/mo and you pay like $30+add ons for the client

they can't be fucked to make a mac version for all that $$ and decide they want more $$

greedy bastards

[chrome oracle]

no spend only profit 😄

[sly elk]

like people pay them $150+/year and then cosmetics or whatever and square can't be fucked

[deep sapphire]

I'd love to own a mac book but I just would have no use for it

[sly elk]

and I'm sure just like every other game

it's a "microsoft sent free hookers if we used directx instead of opengl" kinda deal

(now, I think apple can also get fucked for giving up on opengl and introducing proprietary metal)

[deep sapphire]

go to bed john carmack I know its you /s

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-non-sense-cat-nonsense-meme-anime-gif-25776994

[deep sapphire]

is she barking

[sly elk]

booth of them can get fucked

[deep sapphire]

hey at least it isnt as much of a meme as vulkan is

[chrome oracle]

this. some of their decisions are just so obtuse sometimes.

[deep sapphire]

apple (in particular steve jobs) never gave 2 shits about video games so its not surprising at all

hell, john carmack was the sole reason they went with openGL and kept it as long as they did

[chrome oracle]

though im convinced that when Rosetta is dropped, SE would rather just drop macOS support than put any effort into a native version

[deep sapphire]

lol probably

[sly elk]

probably

which is unfortunate

I'd love to run ffxiv on a nice m2 machine

not hear my jet engine pc takeoff

with its crappy intel for the wintel cpu

[deep sapphire]

apple needs to do better about getting game developers to care about mac

[sly elk]

lol

[deep sapphire]

the whole benefit of M2 is the GPU

[sly elk]

the problem is they don't make an edgy enough mac

they need to make a black mac studio with neon skulls

and RGB

[deep sapphire]

lmao the intel nuc

[sly elk]

lol not that any gamer has ever

[deep sapphire]

wow I almost spelled intel with c instead of t

[sly elk]

I've never seen an intel nuc in the wild

erm

[chrome oracle]

i used to have one!

[sly elk]

except in business environments

but never seen a 'gaming nuc' being used for gaming lol

[chrome oracle]

i had the 8th gen intel nuc that had integrated amd graphics chip

[sly elk]

i've seen plenty of them powering ad signs and like, lab stuff at work.. until they replaced those all with OptiFlex Minis

aka Dell OptiFuckYou

[deep sapphire]

remember this?

[sly elk]

Dell aka we hate our employees

[deep sapphire]

the infamous intel skulltrail platform

[sly elk]

you can tell how the CEO feels about their employees when you walk in a business

based on what kinda computers they use

Dell = we fucking hate you

[deep sapphire]

im surprised tbh, I've always held dell in high regards when it comes to commercial

[chrome oracle]

i was looking at the NUC 13 Extremes and jesus their pricing got out of control. $1300 for an i7-13700K platform with no graphics card, storage, or memory. also the thing is huge.

[sly elk]

You know all the things people complain about with alienware towers

[deep sapphire]

hell who else is gonna come out to your business at 2am to fix your shit

[sly elk]

all of it is also true for dell towers

like

even the precision towers are made out of the same junk

[deep sapphire]

the poor cooling? haha

[sly elk]

YES

[deep sapphire]

yeah they all have their own custom boards and shit

[sly elk]

especially that >> which is funny

[deep sapphire]

I fixed many of them

[sly elk]

because old precision towers had okay cooling

but the newer ones suck

[deep sapphire]

but one nice thing I will give dell

[sly elk]

at some point they decided every tower case would use the same metal cage

[deep sapphire]

is they limit the amount of screws you need to undo to change shit out

like those hard drive cages

[sly elk]

true

and the fans hahha

[deep sapphire]

it was just those little push tabs

yeah

[sly elk]

-recalls steve from gamers nexus ranting about the fan cages-

[deep sapphire]

now HP

[sly elk]

I don't complain about HP because I've rarely used an HP machine but

.. but..

we did have a few of them at work that belonged to a project

[deep sapphire]

so my first IT job was a PC tech, this was like 2010 or so

we got a lot of those shitty HP vista laptops

DV6000

[sly elk]

they were okay except for one that had dual GPUs for some odd reason

[deep sapphire]

the most ghetto cobbled together engineering I've ever seen

[sly elk]

rofl the ones with the flowers

[deep sapphire]

wires just running around all over the place

[sly elk]

one of my coworkers had one of those and hackintoshed it

and he was still using it last I heard

[deep sapphire]

DC jacks all broke from the weak solder joints

ha nice

[sly elk]

he probably replaced the jack

now, when it comes to enterprise dell

[deep sapphire]

they werent reinforced at all, it was just 2 solder joints holding them in, some had plastic backings with hot glue

[sly elk]

my experience is it's kinda like GM stuff?

like

[deep sapphire]

sometimes its great, sometimes its the most dog shit you've ever seen?

[sly elk]

I've walked past a dell poweredge with a flashing orange LCD thingy

and it's been like that for years

[deep sapphire]

Silverado and Cruz

[sly elk]

and the thing's over a decade old and still works

but it's been complaining that the redundancy is compromised for at least 8 years

[deep sapphire]

haha yeah sums up those well

[sly elk]

apple can be kinda hit or miss sometimes but most of the macs I've purchased just sat and ran for years without issue

but most of my macs are desktops

[deep sapphire]

thats why I kinda cringed at those old louis rossman videos

when he did nothing but shit on apple engineering

and I'd be like "wtf is he talking about every mac I've ever seen lasts for 10 years basically"

but I get it, thats probably what he saw the most

if you fix something constantly you become jaded to it

aka me and AMD

[sly elk]

i've had 5 mac laptops

the powerbook g4 was great.
the white macbook was bad quality but the hardware worked great. I worked that sucker hard.
first macbook air (2011) was great, but I sold it after 2 years
second macbook air (2013) crapped out after uh 5-ish years, I had it plugged in and charging when the power was being flaky in the house and it burned out the charging circuit somehow.
macbook pro (2014) still going strong but one of the fans has been rattling since 1 year old. also the screen is starting to delaminate around the camera and the rubber trim has been flaking off around the edge.

[deep sapphire]

the only infamous ones I can remember were the 8600GT macbook pros (which wasnt even apple's fault that was all on nvidia because the same shit happened to PCs) and the ribbon cable for the display being too short causing it to fatigue and fail prematurely

funny story about the 8600GT ordeal, it pissed apple off so much they refused to support nvidia or do business with them ever again after that

[sly elk]

i have a mbp 2018 from work (got it in 2019), the battery swelled up a year or two ago, so we had to get it replaced.. otherwise it's been fine.

I'm not looking forward to the day it finally craps out

when it does I'll probably be forced back onto a dell

[deep sapphire]

how long does apple plan on supporting intel macs

[sly elk]

hmm

officially they drop new feature support after 5 years

and then I think you get another year or three of security updates

[deep sapphire]

I figure they kinda got themselves in a pinch because they only switched to their own architecture like 6 months after they launched the mac pro lol

[sly elk]

but generally apple is really good about software updates

but not necessarily perfect. They draw the line at the 10 year mark and are sometimes petty about it

for example, ventura doesn't work on my 2013 mac pro

[deep sapphire]

I know when they switched to Intel from PPC they only supported it with one more OS version which was 10.6

10.7 didn’t work at all on PPC

[sly elk]

that is true

and the last PPC macs aged real fast

because they didn't support h.264 decoding in hardware

even if the hardware technically could support it

which sucked if you had a powermac :S

"I'll just get a new GPU that supports it" NOPE

[deep sapphire]

and you can’t forget when they used dexcool in the enclosed water cooled heat sinks that leaked which makes me laugh because dexcool was notorious for making seals leak even in GMs

Fuckin anti freeze as a coolant

[sly elk]

the early days of Mac OS X were a really hopeful moment in apple's history

as a nerd that likes unix machines and gaming

you could run anything based on quake 3 or unreal engine on a mac

it was awesome

[minor hollow]

Which intel event where they used the external mega cooler again

[deep sapphire]

That was pretty recent I think

[chrome oracle]

9th or 10th gen?

[deep sapphire]

Yeah they leaked it could overclock to like 8 GHz or something stupid and then told everyone after it used a custom cooling solution rofl

[deep sapphire]

OS X ran like shit when it first came out but yeah it looked incredible compared to windows

Minnesota has a boner for apple computers in schools it’s all I ever used I remember they put OSX on all the G3 macs and eMacs hahaha

Just obnoxiously slow

[sly elk]

OSX needed a lot of ram

the problem was a lot of machines were coming with 256mb when it really needed at least a gig

[deep sapphire]

ha if even that, 2000-2001 you were lucky to even have 512MB

[sly elk]

indeed

powermac g4s could take it though

but it was $$$

[sly elk]

mine could take 1.5gb, came with 256mb and I upgraded it to 768mb at some point and it made a massive difference

the other thing that g4 tower had was dual processors

which again, made OS X considerably more usable

otoh it made OS 9 completely unusable!!

rofl it crashed so much when I used os 9 on it

[deep sapphire]

ha I bet

[sly elk]

OS 9 really didn't like dual processor systems

[deep sapphire]

did they ever add the mac boot chime back

[sly elk]

yes

as I recall, the macs that came with it disabled started chiming again after a certain OS update

because that was just a firmware flag lol

[deep sapphire]

yeah I think I read that

pretty stupid they disabled it

https://youtu.be/4M1OtqAn1ds?t=53

😩

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/NGv6RASFsY4?t=18

[sly elk]

lmao

we're at the point where a 1tb ssd is cheaper than a 1tb hdd

2tb is still cheaper in hdd though

$49 for a 2tb hdd, $48 for a 1tb on amazon going by the cheapest new listings

now if only i could find a dirt cheap usb enclosure with a power brick

[deep sapphire]

holy shit

thats a sweet hotrod

[sly elk]

it's like what a pt cruiser was trying to be lol

why does chevy like throwing the word "Custom" around so much

i'm pretty sure that's what the C in C/K means

[modest moss]

Buy it

[sly elk]

wikipedia says i'm wrong >>

[deep sapphire]

nope

C just means 2WD

K is 4WD

[deep sapphire]

that'd be the ultimate dad mobile

[modest moss]

It's cool af and much cheaper than the truck you wanted

[deep sapphire]

Custom on trucks was just a trim level called Custom Deluxe

which they still offer btw

[sly elk]

lol

it sounds cooler than HIGH COUNTRY

[deep sapphire]

yeah I agree high country sounds lame af

[sly elk]

which to be fair, sounds better than TRD Pro

[deep sapphire]

I looked it up and supposedly its supposed to signify louis chevrolet enjoying his time in the mountains or something? LOL

[sly elk]

anything sounds better than TRD pro

[deep sapphire]

TURD

[modest moss]

A really professional shit

[sly elk]

if I ran a plumbing company

i'd make emblems for the vans that say TURD PRO

[sly elk]

and look just like the toyota TRD Pro emblem

[deep sapphire]

I learned in Mexico they dont even call it the Silverado

they call it the Cheyenne

[sly elk]

that font looks just like the 90s DODGE font

[deep sapphire]

and if you are confused, chevy designated their trim levels on names

the Silverado itself is actually fairly new, before it was just the top trim level

[sly elk]

the mexico product people are better at naming trucks lol

[sly elk]

who needs a F150 when you can have a LOBO

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-howling-wolf-winter-season-gif-24269677

wolf 150 would sound way the hell cooler than f150

then again this is ford we're talking about

they used the mustang name on a station wagon

[modest moss]

Ford Escort, driving a car named after a hooker

[sly elk]

i'll forgive that

honestly they should've kept that name >>

it's funnier if the owner gives their car a womans' name

-points at car- "And that's Betsy, my Escort"

"I rented her for a week from Enterprise"

https://tenor.com/view/satania-satanichia-happy-gif-11987904

it came in cargo truck trim lol

all those doctors are there observing to find out why anyone would buy a ford escort

https://tenor.com/view/car-friday-im-out-bye-gif-9030927

oooo

[deep sapphire]

[deep sapphire]

haha

my dad owned like 3 escorts back in the day

[sly elk]

what a playa

maybe that's what the E in mustang Mach E means

[deep sapphire]

they were total shitboxes

haha

he paid like 800 bucks for them

once one shit the bed he just go find another one

[sly elk]

man if I took over ford for a day

i'd mess them up so good

[modest moss]

Ford Fiesta named after a British nudie magazine too

[sly elk]

oh I just remembered another epic ford name

how could we forget

Mercury Cougar

[deep sapphire]

I was talking about that car yesterday I think haha

with the cool cougar emblem on the hood

[sly elk]

sooo

[deep sapphire]

we never got any of the cool fords in the UK

[sly elk]

action #5 or whatever: Bring back the Mercury Cougar mostly for laughs as a high end mustang

[deep sapphire]

our escort was completely different until like the early 2000s

[sly elk]

like it would be a lazy rebadge. Not quite as bad as the Cadillac Cimmaron but

i'd basically just pick a random V8 trim and sell it with cougar badges

[modest moss]

Did you get the capri

[sly elk]

and say that's the Mercury Cougar

[sly elk]

man that thing

if you took off the trunk and made it 1 wheel in the front

it'd look like a reliant robin

[deep sapphire]

dont think so but chevy made a capri

[deep sapphire]

well caprice

[sly elk]

i'm guessing the robin copied it

[deep sapphire]

but whats the difference

[sly elk]

ahh if I ran GM

I would 100% bring back the caprice name somehow

[deep sapphire]

you've probably seen these in older movies

[sly elk]

and I'd get myself fired as CEO because of it

[deep sapphire]

they were very popular cop cars of the era

[sly elk]

also the Cadillacs would all get renamed

and I'd fire everyone who decided to call them XT3,CT5,etc

[modest moss]

Proper 80s lad car

That gif was annoying

[deep sapphire]

hatch backs were cool

[sly elk]

Eldorado, Seville, Brougham, Fleetwood, Sixty Special

[deep sapphire]

1972 monte carlo

[sly elk]

now that's a car design with some chest hair

[modest moss]

That's a unit and a half

[sly elk]

honestly

[deep sapphire]

lmao could you imagine trying to park this thing

what were they thinking

[sly elk]

I think it's high time someone in the big 3 made a car brand that was exclusively cars

like

[deep sapphire]

THE HOOD IS AS LONG AS THE BACK HALF OF THE CAR

[sly elk]

sedans and coupes

[deep sapphire]

🤣

[sly elk]

the trunk is back

[modest moss]

Driveways or valets only

[deep sapphire]

im mad that nobody bought the last gen impala

for the price it was a damn good car

fully loaded could be had under 40,000 dollars, good looking car

plenty of power

[sly elk]

I had the opportunity to get one instead of the XTS

there were a few reasons I didn't

[deep sapphire]

this is probably my favorite looking classic car though

and yes its a mustang

but I dont care

its fuckin gorgeous

[sly elk]

the first one was that an almost new XTS cost less and had more features and a much nicer interior

the second was that the impala interior was kinda sad looking

the materials were fine....

[chrome oracle]

i think mustangs look great

[sly elk]

also for whatever reason, GM never put the newer version of the radio in that car

[chrome oracle]

unfortunately a lot of their fans ruined it lol

[sly elk]

they used the old version of GM's software

[deep sapphire]

MyLink? haha

[sly elk]

yea

[deep sapphire]

its fairly responsive at least

[sly elk]

they were using v2 when cadillac was using v3 or whatever

it was silly

oh yea and the engine options

[sly elk]

as I recall

[odd sand]

They were out of rental cars for my trip, so we had to use a fucking Suburban instead.

[sly elk]

most of the impalas on dealer lots had the 2.4L or the 2.5L ecotec

[deep sapphire]

BIG BEAST

[sly elk]

and if there's one lesson i learned as a kid

it's never buy an american car with a 4 banger

[odd sand]

Because when driving 6hrs thru the mountains, you totally want to be flooring it at 14mpg

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/mustang-ford-mustang-ford-crash-crowds-gif-15173480

the meme that started it all

[sly elk]

oh come now

that meme existed long before the meme did

[odd sand]

The instant MPG gauge read 4-5 when climbing the mountain grades...

[deep sapphire]

the cars and coffee meme? I swear that was what made it trend haha

[deep sapphire]

did it have the 6.2?

[sly elk]

wlel more like

when I was a kid

[odd sand]

I don't know. Certainly didn't seem all that powerful, so I'm guessing not

[sly elk]

teens were buying and wrecking fox body mustangs

[odd sand]

Also the brakes were mushy garbage.

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/50-gang-mustang-oakland-sideshows-gif-12887708

[deep sapphire]

yeah the 5.3 isnt very powerful, its good enough but not gonna launch you in your seat

[deep sapphire]

im not a huge fox body fan

but at least its better than the "new generation" era

[sly elk]

eh

[deep sapphire]

ugly

no power

[sly elk]

I can't say I've ever really hated a mustang

[deep sapphire]

terrible interior

[odd sand]

I should have gone out biking today but I've just been really tired since like 5pm so I couldn't muster the fucks

[sly elk]

but the interior

the dashboard looked like a pushup bra

and the center stack looked like a urinal

[deep sapphire]

true story, when that mustang came out the new (at the time obviously) Modular V8 wasnt ready yet, so the year after they launched the GT and guess what

it made only 10 more hp than the outgoing windsor 302

🤣

while chevy gave you an LT1 with 325hp, Ford couldnt even do 230

[sly elk]

like the inside of a push up bra

and what the hell was with the headlight switch on those

sheesh

it's like

your'e sitting in the driver's seat

and you see

speed, tach, fuel gauge, temperature gauge, HEADLIGHT SWITCH

and it was the cranky old person switch that you have to pull out

[odd sand]

Also the wireless charging pad on the Suburban basically didn't work. You had to place it perfectly and it would constantly cut in and out

[sly elk]

the one in the cadillac works great unless you have a newer iphone

then you have to rip it out and get the upgraded charging mat that costs like $50

[deep sapphire]

The Windsor and Romeo have subtle differences. Valve cover bolt patterns are one. Romeo has fewer bolts than the Windsor. Another difference is the front cover bolts. The Windsor uses 8 mm and the Romeo uses 10 mm bolts. The Romeo uses jack screws on the main caps and the Windsor uses dowels. The new engine produced 215 hp (160 kW; 218 PS) at 4,400 rpm and 285 lb⋅ft (386 N⋅m) of torque at 3,500 rpm, matching the output of its predecessor. For 1998, the 4.6 L V8 received a small increase in output, resulting in 225 hp (168 kW; 228 PS) at 4,750 rpm and 290 lb⋅ft (393 N⋅m) of torque at 3,500 rpm. This was achieved through PCM calibration and a modified fuel system. Though capable of matching or exceeding the older 302 V8's output, the 4.6 L V8 was criticized for delivering inadequate performance, particularly against the larger displacement of the OHV V8 used in the Mustang's chief rival, the Chevrolet Camaro.

225 HP

I dunno how any of these sold

they looked horrible, made no power

[odd sand]

Doesn't the Civic Si make close to that with a 4cyl?

[deep sapphire]

now days yeah

even honda is guilty of the same thing they havent increased base power by any meaningful amount in close to a decade now

[odd sand]

Sure, but at a certain point how much more can you push it while meeting EPA MPG guidelines etc>

[deep sapphire]

the new type R only makes like 3-5 more hp than the outgoing model

but I guess 310 hp is good enough for FWD

[odd sand]

310 is still really impressive for a factory-tuned 4cyl

[sly elk]

also it gets ridiculous gas mileage in the accord lol

like 40mpg

[deep sapphire]

in the hybrid yeah

I wouldn’t mind an accord

Nothing special about it but that’s what they do best

Affordable, good gas, reliable

[chrome oracle]

if a car meet doesnt have a mustang with traction control turned off spinning out into a streetlight, i dont want it

[deep sapphire]

Just a great no frills car

[deep sapphire]

Even with traction control those things pull way too hard haha, that’s always gonna be a problem with RWD. You can slam on the gas cause your tires won’t hook up for shit

AWD will eat it for lunch every time on the drag strip

But RWD is fun to sling around corners

Steering just feels so raw I love it

[sly elk]

oshi no ko was lit today XD

[real edge]

its awesome so far

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

最poi的Nia | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/81677999

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[sly elk]

@deep sapphire https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/13e8zhx/fire_rolled_through_the_shop_but_this_still_works/

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/macsetups/comments/13ebc9f/the_office_desk/

baller setup

i like this dude's pics

[royal forge]

FUCKING SHIT SHIT SHIT

MY FUCKING

OH MY GOD

GOD DAMN

I FUCKING HATE

UGH

Right

so

[real edge]

[royal forge]

my clinic runs off google drive

to stay updated

well

obviously someone got their account compromised

because I was suddenly spammed with sign in attempts from NETHERLANDS

Google locks the whole account because

IT'S FUCKING COMPROMISED

[real edge]

not china or russia for a change

[royal forge]

ikr

[potent arrow]

yooooo

thats sick

Aoi got his xrays leaked

[royal forge]

And it's like

fuck sake

so it's like slammin my head in a wall

and everyone goes HURRRRRRRRRRRR WHY DID U CHANGE THE PASSWORD

U fucking clowns

And they all spam the stupid recovery so GOOGLE FUCKING LOCKED IT DOWN

[dull garnet]

that's very funny

[royal forge]

You know the sensation of hearing circus music?

[sly elk]

!hank

[opal panther]

NUMA | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100086848

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[royal forge]

They are so fukken stupid

Holy shit its not even funny

[real edge]

that is how tech illiterate people are going to feel like for you sadly

when dealing with tech with them

[royal forge]

But

Like

Holy shit

ITS LITERALLY JUST A GOOGLE ACCOUNR

[sly elk]

gotta make everyone use 2 factor auth and

idk

i think the easiest solution is

here is your work phone. only use your google account here. only do work things on this. if you do anything else with it you're FIRED!

[royal forge]

It is 2 factor

THATS WHY IT WONT WORK

Cuz the ONE person who used their phone num

ISNT EVEN HERE ANYMORE

So i just sacrificed my num for it

[sly elk]

"I will be able to see every text convo you have and every picture you take, and the management team has a meeting on friday where they laugh at the funniest things they saw"

"we'll post the best picture in the employee newsletter"

[void dove]

i feel your pain, fortunately im in a position to unfuck stuff like that

gotta engagement where a small company is actually asking us to move them away from google/gsuite to Office365, and do it all with best practices, its fucking mint

[sly elk]

blaaaa

I don't wanna change jobs but I would love to try a company that went completely non-MS

apple laptops, google cloud services

that would certainly be interesting

[void dove]

yeah, fair, never really had any that did that

[sly elk]

yea it's always dells and microsoft up the ass

[void dove]

always been primarily microsoft

though, did have a client where a huge chunk of their workstations were Macs

so mac management platforms were interesting

but i didn't touch it much, wasnt a client assigned to me

[sly elk]

I would argue that Windows was built from the ground up to be managed

[void dove]

yep exactly

[sly elk]

like since Windows NT first became a thing

it was made by the brains at IBM and redmond to be the ultimate employee oppression experience

[void dove]

macs, are doable, but require more work to get it setup imo

lol

[sly elk]

and if you understand that, then it makes total sense when people complain about the user experience and threaten to go buy a mac or whatevert

especially retail customers

[void dove]

nowadays if your enterprise environment is painful for employees to use

[sly elk]

macs were made to be used by users

[void dove]

your environment is setup badly

[sly elk]

windows was not

[void dove]

Windows can be Very user friendly, but most engineers, dont know how to do it properly

[sly elk]

yea but even when it sings of azure cloud AD perfection

but I will concede, you are correct that a bad management and inexperienced IT/security will utterly destroy the experience

[void dove]

you can seriously build an entirely self-service driven, cloud based, windows enterprise.

[sly elk]

but even then, there are just use patterns and idk, things, that make using windows or any other MS product feel kinda comically uncomfortable sometimes

[void dove]

but companies are stupid

[sly elk]

but windows is so ubiquitous that people experience this and think that's just how computers are

haha coming from the linux dev world

[void dove]

Microsoft lives off backwards compatibility and being Extremely extensible

[sly elk]

(yep! I write software for linux machines! Odd, I know)

[void dove]

so yea, gets to be all over the place

[sly elk]

windows is just 1 OS

[void dove]

you can unify the experience and streamline it, BUT requires work

[sly elk]

and compared to everything else I've used lol

(bsdi, freebsd, various linuxes, mac os x, classic mac os... I never got to experience next or beos or amigaos first hand.. ehh) ... windows is weird. xD

I think the fact that it's so easy and detailed to manage is also what makes it so vulnerable (at times) lol

[void dove]

talk to most internal IT engineers and managers at enterprises, they have no fucking idea about modern ways to use/configue windows, and AzureAD, etc, to make everything user friendly for the modern world

most are dinosaurs

[sly elk]

it's like taking a house

and putting locks on the doors that are unlockable from outside without a key

but not inside

all that said

fapolicyd exists if you want to make a linux users' life miserable lol

[void dove]

yes, and no.
a lot of attack vectors are because of legacy components, or systems which microsoft has since improved, but companies are just not properly upgrading.
you can read through many of the more serious CVEs in recent years for Windows.
and find that most, mitigations are just to, use the newer implementation of said system, or just not turn on some stupid setting, that reduces security.

case in point, Print Nightmare....

[sly elk]

yup

[void dove]

printer vendors using older print driver formats, means, that the print services couldn't be secured better than they used to be.
print Nightmare found, which could be mitigated if all print drivers were v3? (i cant remember the specifics but whatever)

and NOT turning off a security setting

[sly elk]

but the fact the OS was designed to lock a user out of things in the first place

makes it kinda easy for a malicious 'admin' to lock said user out of said things too hahaha

[void dove]

thats, security though?

how is that any different to linux and root vs non root users?

you dont want people being able to change everything in their OS

unless im misunderstanding your point

[sly elk]

well sometimes it's little dumb shit like locking a browser down to a compromised search engine via 'group policy' lol

[void dove]

thats admins thou

[sly elk]

to be fair

you do this for a living, I don't

[void dove]

windows provides the tools

[sly elk]

EXACTLY

my point is that the tools exist

an amount of tools that I think is kinda excessive at times

I understand why it exists though

[void dove]

i dont get why thats bad

dont blame the tools, blame the engineer

tools are as good or as bad as the person using them

if a company decides to lock the search engine down to one specific one

[sly elk]

idk, imagine that level of control being exerted in any other aspect of a workplace

[void dove]

thats nothing that Windows did wrong, blame the company

[sly elk]

like

you go to your desk one day

and let's say you're a bit of a pen person, so you have like a fancy fountain pen

you go to your desk and it's gone. in fact all your pens are gone. even the bicss

they've been replaced by one (1) red pen with the company logo on it

you go to your boss and complain and they tell you "company policy, you must only use that red company pen"

[void dove]

that is a horrible analogy, and not even in the same ballpark, im sorry i dont agree

[sly elk]

things I've seen people locked out of on windows

lockscreen, wallpaper, browser home page, the gain level on their fucking mic

i'm surprised they don't group policy the brightness on laptop screens lol

[void dove]

anyone can do the same thing on linux, and macs

this isn't new

[sly elk]

i could kinda sorta see the mic setting thing being annoying when people somehow screw that up

[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

しゅう | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100817299

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[void dove]

if someone was attacked on their home PC, and a virus changed those things, they can change them back, they have an admin account

[livid dune]

this is the 3rd time i get this onion mf

[void dove]

same can happen on linux, mac, etc, etc

this isn't special to Windows

just because group policy is a thing, doesn't make it good or bad,
like any system you have admin access to, IF you download a virus or get compromised, then anything can be changed, to try and lock you out of anything

the built in systems, dont matter, anyone could make linux or mac do those things

[sly elk]

I agree, but they don't lay out the red carpet with a laundry list of all those things available to do at the OS level?

[void dove]

so they shouldn't do these things because they "may" be used against users?

if linux was the dominant platform, but had none of those tools, all virus makers would do, is make their virus do it directly, instead of use policies

that would change nothing

[sly elk]

obviously they should because your job wouldn't exist and well, lots of companies love that detailed level of control

it exists for a reason lol

even if I think it gets ridiculous and nonsensical

ultimately i despise windows and use it only on my toy computer 😄

and even then I wouldn't use it if microsoft hadn't had some kinda coke party for EA or whoever in the 90s to make everyone use directx 😄

-hides-

ok that was a bit silly to come up with even for me

[void dove]

🤷 i like windows, i also like linux, but i cant realistically use it as a daily driver

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/asleep-steve-ballmer-yes-meme-microsoft-gif-18627126

[void dove]

Mac, i despise, but tolerate

[sly elk]

mac laptops do one thing and they do it very well

[void dove]

it has its place

[sly elk]

when I close the lid it goes to sleep (as long as that is enabled)

and...

it stays asleep

[void dove]

DirectX took off, because OpenGL stagnated

[sly elk]

i wanna say my level of confidence in a laptop staying asleep is mac > linux > windows

the linux one will stay asleep. It might kill the battery in 5 hours because it didn't use the right sleep state.. but it'll stay asleep

noot don't worry i'm full of nonsense and sarcasm ^^

!hank

[opal panther]

妄想 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/83344243

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[royal forge]

HOLY FUCKIN SHIT

THEY MAKE SLIDES WITH FONT SIZE 12

[royal forge]

HOW THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE SO STUPID

HOLLLLEEEEEEESHHHIIIEEEETTTTTTTTTTTT

WHITE FONT COLOR ON LIGHT GRAY BACKGROUND

OHHHHHHYYEEEEEEEE

Everyone doesnt tell the tech guy anything cuz everyone is a fuckin moron

I'm the tech guy because i understand the divine skill of turning shit off and on again

[sly elk]

PowerPoint slides should be a school graduation requirenent

Shit I definitely had a class or two where you had to make some

[potent arrow]

Then theres my professor who somehow makes a four slide ppt that's 40gb

"Please download before the lecture"

[boreal swan]

Does anyone know how to fix it?

[golden stream]

Get the thirdparty launcher
This is due to the official launcher will download every single file queueing like hula dance, if a hula dancer be a bit weird the line will drop
The third party launcher be like traffic in Monday morning, it tends to download all, a lot with higher bandwidth then repair later

!faq quicklauncher

[opal panther]

**Official Launcher Giving you Trouble on Updates?**

Try these alternative 3rd party launchers.

For Windows and Steam:

https://goatcorp.github.io/

For Mac OS:

https://www.xivmac.com/

For Linux:

https://flathub.org/apps/details/dev.goats.xivlauncher

Alternative cross-platform:

https://github.com/eorzeatools/microlaunch
(developed by rin#3487 - contact them for help)

Please read all the documentation and guides for these launchers before requesting assistance.

Do note that these programs, like ACT, are technically against TOS. Treat them like Fight Club, and don't be rude while using them.

Please note no staff have tested the Mac, Linux and cross-platform launchers so use at your own discretion.

[golden stream]

Huhhhhh

Hmmmmm

Hol up, where is your geographically location? Roughly is fine

If SEA, been having a slight jank recently

Some DNS workaround should be able to fix it

if for NA, they've been getting a maint recently but not sure if something change in their infrastructure/gate

[boreal swan]

yeap, sea

[golden stream]

Yeahhhhhh just casual SEA debuff

Try change DNS
From dynamic DNS to 8888 8844 one

[boreal swan]

without vpn?

[boreal swan]

still got the same problem though

[golden stream]

Hmmmm strange :/

[boreal swan]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-so-sad-gif-25352430

[royal forge]

fuck sake

im gettin weird shit again

weird verification notifications

[umbral moss]

you can do granular access controls in linux/unix, but they're still vulnerable to escalation/elevation attacks or just hammering unsecured data directly

heartbleed fucking apache over while IIS server owners sitting there drinking tea watching it all burn

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGfc-JBxlY

[lost python]

more drama yay

honestly gamers nexus drama videos have been among the most entertaining tech videos

[real edge]

drama is always entertaining unless it involves me

[livid dune]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[lost python]

"Asus is spearheading the best marketing campaign that Intel has had in years"

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1656650784497455105

GamersNexus (@GamersNexus)

I want to note also that ASUS emailed us - unprompted - and asked to fly out this week to meet with us about the issues. We told them we'd be down for it but that we'd have to record the conversation. They haven't replied to us for 5 days. So... ASUS had a chance to correct this.

Twitter · May 11, 2023, 1:21 PM

[livid dune]

Hush money

[deep sapphire]

Lmao that was great

Imagine charging you 800 dollars for a motherboard and then doing this

[fair parcel]

classic

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

ももしき | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100920115

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[modest moss]

Pink for me, purple for you, win

[cerulean talon]

Accurate.

Kupo is finally finding balance in this wild world

[sly elk]

Lol at least asus hasn’t threatened violence

[deep sapphire]

!hank

[opal panther]

あめ。 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/71671807

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[odd sand]

So I've seen numerous times over the last few days people memeing on Win11 specifically about the ads... where are the ads people are talking about?

I must just not use my PC in a way that intersects that stuff a casual user would see.

[umbral moss]

they're in the start menu if I recall

it occasionally peppers in "you might like this" recommendations for shit like mobile games that are in the MS store

[odd sand]

I guess I must have turned that off with the privacy and data collection settings

Because my recommendeds are only recent files and apps

So it really seems to come down to "people don't spend the 20-30mins to configure the OS to their liking, then complain that the default isn't what they like"

[umbral moss]

yeah, more or less

it's scummy on MS's part to enable it by default because they're getting paid off user laziness

[odd sand]

eg: If Win11 is ever brought up my friend always has to mention the taskbar even though you can left-align in literally 5 seconds once. But bc it's not how he likes it by default it's "bad"

[umbral moss]

but it's not an actively harmful thing and you can turn it off

[umbral moss]

the fact that the taskbar doesn't allow icons to have titles in 11 is actually obnoxious though

[odd sand]

I guess I'm so inured to companies doing bloatware bullshit, I didn't think anything of it and uninstalled or tweaked everything those first 20mins then put it out of my mind.

[umbral moss]

can only use icon mode

[odd sand]

Like getting a new phone: They always have bloatware to uninstall or disable.

[umbral moss]

this is why I like pixel phones, they're not terribly bloated, just terrible phones

[sly elk]

the new ads are in the settings menu, and you'll probably like them

1. get a microsoft account today (you need one to install windows 11 unless you're 31337 h4xx0r anyway)
2. onedrive is awesome!! get onedrive now! Wait, we already setup onedrive!
3. You don't have Microsoft 365?! Really?! BRUH

If you're a fan of Microsoft Windows 11 you probably already have all those things so there probably aren't ads anyway.

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/how-to-disable-annoying-ads-on-windows-11

a lot of the things being called ads are not things people would necessarily consider ads

and yo u're right, most phones have bloatware that'se even worse

(and IMHO that.. is a problem)

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/13en2xl/choice_is_yours/

[cerulean talon]

Blessed google understanding how to kill a zombie child.

[torpid kayak]

hm worth going over 60 FPS in FF14? I heard it breaks physics or something

[lost python]

it breaks booba physics

[torpid kayak]

only that?

[lost python]

ye

[torpid kayak]

hm

[deep sapphire]

They still haven’t fixed that? Lmao

[lost python]

13 year old engine, please look forward to it

[torpid kayak]

my FPS:
-duty: 144+
-open world: 120+
-limsa/hunt: 90
dunno what FPS limit I should go for 🤔

[kindred brook]

How cool or not not is that Asus handheld

[paper tusk]

at least the fall through the ground bug was fixed by reverting some of the high fps cap changes

[lost python]

How about none?

[lost python]

Lots of performance and no battery life.
Also it's Asus so they will stop support a year later anyway and things will start breaking apart

[torpid kayak]

none?

[lost python]

Maybe they will push an update that will burn it though

[lost python]

Yeah why do you want to put one in the first place?

[torpid kayak]

well, less heat and power?

[lost python]

Sure but in turn your game won't run as smoothly anymore

[torpid kayak]

I guess I kinda want a universal FPS for FF14? not sure a good idea though

[kindred brook]

Wait one year for 75% off then?

[wide hill]

holy 850 dollars

i love import tax

[sly elk]

ya know, I poke fun at the steam deck sometimes, but I have a feeling the steam deck will be a better user experience and last longer and have better software support

why would anyone buy that ROG Ally over a steam deck >>

except for hardware performance reasons >>

[wide hill]

don't forget the overhead of it running windows 11

i wonder if they allow installing steamdeck os into it

[hard drift]

Where there’s a will, there’s a way

[wide hill]

the only good thing, is that it is available in different stores

instead of steam deck, where you can literally only buy it on steam

[hard drift]

I mean another benefit of the ally is actual egpu support

[wide hill]

trough usb?

[hard drift]

Usb c not sure what gen

[wide hill]

are you not able to do that on steam deck?

[hard drift]

Nope

Might be a limitation of the OS idk but it’s not supported

[wide hill]

out of the box, you mean?

[hard drift]

You can technically do it though

[hard drift]

I guess

[wide hill]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/External_GPU

probably a way if you can install the drivers on it

[hard drift]

Probably

[cerulean talon]

!hank

[opal panther]

汰 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87752121

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[cerulean talon]

Damn kupo's been seriously purple this week. I approve.

[deep sapphire]

!hank

[opal panther]

すぁし | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94901537

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[deep sapphire]

THAT IS BLUE

I WANTED PURPLE

[sly elk]

i like aqua catgirl xD

!hank

[opal panther]

かのら | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/91425882

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[sly elk]

cute lol

[modest moss]

!hank

[opal panther]

izure | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94798562

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[modest moss]

oh no it broke

@cerulean talon I clicked through and pixiv says it might be nsfw

but I don't have an account to check

@deep sapphire check this

[deep sapphire]

lmao not even remotely nsfw

[potent arrow]

Lmao everyone is dropping asus

Probably won't buy their motherboards personally anymore

Time to find out what's another good brand to stick too

[sly elk]

i've been saying that myself a while now

[potent arrow]

I've always been buying Asus and gigashite

[sly elk]

I've been saying that, too

[potent arrow]

So now it's just gigashite

Cuz I'm sure as hell not buying MSI

[sly elk]

my experience with gigabyte gpus was very good lol

[potent arrow]

Well I mean for motherboards

[sly elk]

that 3070 vision was great :]

but I've never used a gigabyte board

however, they are the most popular hackintosh board

[potent arrow]

Vision series is great

[sly elk]

sooo I'm kinda sorta thinking the same

[potent arrow]

Idk I'll just go on PC part picker later and buy the top 15-20 and bench them all

[sly elk]

and I want to do a mobo/cpu/ram upgrade soon so

i'm currently thinking about 13700k, 13900k, 7800x3d, 7950x, 7950x3d

and the one arg I saw against gigabyte on reddit was their software sucks?

[potent arrow]

Idk I'll find out when I start poking at the options

This kind sucks because I recently put a new Asus it's board in my personal rig

And it's been having issues too

So like it really means it's a widespread issue

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[sly elk]

are you using a ryzen chip? 😮

it's a fun time to be sitting here pondering what cpu to go with hahaha

[potent arrow]

3900x

[sly elk]

what hank says about the intel stuff being reliable is true (for this generation anyway)

for last gen it was bull shit >>

[potent arrow]

I just put a Asus board I had in it

[sly elk]

the crappy DDR5 controller :S

[potent arrow]

My old one died.

[sly elk]

just generally DDR5 still kinda seems to suck :S

[potent arrow]

:S

I have a 7950x reserved for my new build

[sly elk]

like, the idea I can't just pop 4x16gb sticks in my computer and have a reliable ddr6000 setup

because the memory controllers just can't handle it

on a $500+ CPU and a $300+ motherboard

COME ON!

HEDT my ass

[potent arrow]

LOL

[sly elk]

I hate that they're charging HEDT prices for low end hardware :S

like why is the CPU $500 if it only has like 24 pcie lanes 😦

https://tenor.com/view/grumpy-dana-carvey-back-in-my-day-angry-gif-16063472

back in my day you could get an x99 setup with 40 pcie lanes and have all the SSDs and RAM you wanted

[minor hollow]

Shut up gramps

[sly elk]

also there's something that pisses me off about buying a motherboard with 4 ram slots and only being able to use 2 of them

[minor hollow]

Stop talking about your Enigma Machine

[cerulean talon]

Mercury delay line memory is the only way

[deep sapphire]

Gigabyte has the worst RMA process in the business and has for the last 20 years

infact I dont even think they make anything good period, I remember they always had really jank bios issues all the time

[modest moss]

Never had an issue with a Gigabyte mobo though

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ-QVOKGVyM does all jay do is just watch gamers nexus and make videos about it lol

god he's so lazy

[royal forge]

Its ez content

React and shit

[odd sand]

I've never had an issue with their boards, but I never try to OC much so

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-cute-ducky-cute-adorable-pet-animals-gif-16625895

[odd sand]

I ran my 3770K 3.8 @ 4.2 all-core but that wasn't very extreme. And the only thing I did for my 9900K was run the ram at 3600 instead of 3200

[sharp star]

I think GN also ended up on Asus' naughty list so they didn't review an ROG Ally because of that

[sly elk]

Does GN even do launch day reviews?

[odd sand]

Given Steve's choice of words, I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped getting review hardware entirely

[torpid kayak]

hm is a 300W-consuming GPU a lot? Or just your average? I can't really tell considering I jump from a GTX 960 that hits 120W at best, but my electricity bill spikes like 30% this month, though it can be argued that I used A/C a lot more frequently because it is 35-40 degree Celious

[sly elk]

i kinda figured GN was going down the path of buying their own hardware to review anyway

[deep sapphire]

that would do very little to impact your energy bill

[sly elk]

but the argument i saw come up time and again is

-> Asus is a scumbag company

Yea but the other motherboard brands are shitty, too!

I'd say that's a fantastic opportunity for some american brand to come along and grab some good programmers on sale from google/meta/microsoft/whatever and make a nice board with really really good firmware/software

-chuckle- imagine if dell sold ATX motherboards under the alienware brand for DIYers

or maybe its own brand altogether

their AW offerings have never been that great though in terms of motherboards. Even when they used standard ATX boards they usually had half the ram slots the chipset would support

like 4 slots on the HEDT boards and 2 slots on the normal ones

[deep sapphire]

EVGA

[sly elk]

if i want a really overpriced intel motherboard

evga feels like a lie too

[deep sapphire]

EVGA seems fine, for its features its priced comparable to the competition

[sly elk]

the CEO is from Taiwan and AFAIK they contracted virtually all of their engineering in Taiwan

[odd sand]

300W under heavy load is about average these days, honestly. And no that card wouldn't account for a 30% increase in your electricity bill. At most a few dollars

[sly elk]

the only thing american about evga is the mailing address

[deep sapphire]

again at the end of the day they are all foxconn trash lmao

[sly elk]

it's only the tiniest bit more american than asus or gigabyte