#technology-discussion
sly elk
modest moss
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
!hank
Oh, right. I forgot.
That 60 second timer is a good idea because it forces us to enjoy the current cat girl
modest moss
that is a wise attitude
opal pantherBOT
random marlin
ooh
modest moss
pink
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
^ she reminds me of those ad videos on facebook
where they're like "checking out this new chinese phone cover thing" and it's a first-person-view of a woman unboxing something. and she always has the long sleeves that go to her fingers
ERGH APPLE
so if you have a mac playing apple music and then you go get in your car and your iphone starts playing apple music
it'll cut the mac off and the mac app will say please stop playing on the other device (even if you're not playing music)
and then apple music won't work again on the mac until you restart the mac app
there's a similar sorta misbehavior on my iphone with spotify and apple music lol
suppose I know this, so I use spotify (free) on my iphone for a week or so, well here's what usually ends up happening
- spotify will never auto-play when I get in the car/jeep. It connects and doesn't play anything unless i open the app on the phone and then tell it to.
- apple music will show "not playing" as its current song and won't play anything again (infinite loading) until I restart the iphone
- if I ask siri to play music on either app, it'll tell me "I'm having trouble with the connection" until I restart the iphone
glossy ravine
This hydaelyn forsaken screen protector was 50 dollars
celest violet
This hydaelyn forsaken screen protector was **50 dollars**
Gl putting it on tbh, those guys are so easy to get bubbles in
sly elk
tbh I have legit considered taking out the 8.4" radio in my jeep
and getting a double din adapter thing
and just sticking one of those oldschool radios in
glossy ravine
Gl putting it on tbh, those guys are so easy to get bubbles in
Already fucked up the application process.
At least it comes with a lifetime warranty* 🥲
celest violet
F
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
Oo cute
celest violet
Idk where you bought it from, but my best buy will swap out zagg screen protectors for free if you purchased them from that best buy
sly elk
i'm sad that there's no JCPenney logo and the buttons look real crappy
suppose I could go a bit more luxurious
waaait
that's not a cassette
neat, a minidisc player
celest violet
and getting a double din adapter thing
I need to go through the effort of replacing the radio in my car tbh, I bought it a couple months ago and it's an 04 camry with the stock radio. No aux, disc reader has a jam in it
So I'm stuck with the radio or my phone speaker 💀
sly elk
i'm sure you can get a replacement for that really cheap on ebay
or aliexpress lol
plenty of things like that
ack
NOOO WHY
sly elk
!hank
opal pantherBOT
wraith agate
I do have silicon power rn, altho the 1tb version. I can say it is good
I can get like two of these and be set for a while
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
🙂
sharp star
https://twitter.com/matrosov/status/1654560343295934464 hahahaha oops
this sucks because I built some systems on Alder Lake
sly elk
heh
tfw you look at car videos and then your family thinks you're planning to buy another car 
though if I sold my wrangler, it'd cost like another $40k to get a 392...
and uh...
$40k is enough to probably get a charger with the same engine
so a car better equipped to handle said engine and I still get to keep my jeep
oh dang no those are $50k
livid dune
This hydaelyn forsaken screen protector was **50 dollars**
HOW MANY dollars?????????
!hank
opal pantherBOT
livid dune
Nice.
sly elk
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
soo, asus board, rtx 40 series with the 12VHPWR connector and a cable bent sideways, and a cheap heatsink, and a 7800x3d
.. and a gigabyte PSU
take bets on what blows up first?
sharp star
The NZXT riser cable
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
livid dune
Hitsune miku
hard drift
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opal pantherBOT
hard drift
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opal pantherBOT
fair parcel
!hank
opal pantherBOT
fair parcel
also if you had to choose between ASUS & MSI 4090 what's the pick 
jolly sinew
soo, asus board, rtx 40 series with the 12VHPWR connector and a cable bent sidew...
the cpu, theres been a lot of reports of those going poof
lost python
also if you had to choose between ASUS & MSI 4090 what's the pick <:Hmmge:965744...
msi for me personally because i think asus is just overpriced
unless the asus one is cheaper for some reason, then that
opal pantherBOT
fair parcel
unless the asus one is cheaper for some reason, then that
Asus is like $200 more yeah and thanks
modest moss
it's a mad world where I need to disable ecores for a game to not stutter
deep sapphire
it's a mad world where I need to disable ecores for a game to not stutter
did you build a new PC?
deep sapphire
I'd hope so, my old PC was built in 200 B.C.
sharp star
https://twitter.com/AstralPhnx/status/1654725827865759745 ????????????????????????????
how even
deep sapphire
https://twitter.com/AstralPhnx/status/1654725827865759745 ??????????????????????...
pretty sure this is illegal you cant use the windows kernel to make your own OS lol
MS should be sending them a letter
lost python
"gaming" versions in a nutshell. they have existed since forever and its always the same crap
i know i once had a gaming version of 7 and it sucked so much
lost python
inland mauve
oh yeah I saw this before
god I feel for all the computer repair shops that are going to have to fix computers that got infected with a bazillion different kinds of malware after some 12 year old decided to install this trash on it
sharp star
god I feel for all the computer repair shops that are going to have to fix compu...
they sponsored LTT so that's gonna be fun
inland mauve
they sponsored LTT so that's gonna be fun
please tell me Linus has more integrity than that
wide hill
huh, i checked their webpage
and it's listed as "An open-source, GPL-3.0 project"
is it just a reconfig?
inland mauve
yes
I think so at least
I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a policy install
except it's the worst policy ever made
modest moss
did you build a new PC?
like July last year
deep sapphire
ah right on
modest moss
12700k, 3070ti, blah blah
potent arrow
https://twitter.com/AstralPhnx/status/1654725827865759745 ??????????????????????...
Dude, no joke a had a kid recently ask me to help install this because ltt recommended it
And when I looked it up, I had a stroke
sharp star
holy shit
potent arrow
Ltt continues to be the bane of my existence
real edge
LTT is the mcdonalds of tech
lost python
entertainment is what they do good but nothing else really
but thats how they got so big
sly elk
rawr
dull garnet
When you're a kid you think a lightweight os will make your games run better
celest violet
god I feel for all the computer repair shops that are going to have to fix compu...
As a geeksquad worker I am most likely gonna be running into hella "streamer" guys that are gonna have this shit
potent arrow
As a geeksquad worker I am most likely gonna be running into hella "streamer" gu...
Ltt has continued to make my life as a small local SI hell
deep sapphire
geeksquad
potent arrow
HANK
deep sapphire
dont they just send your stuff back to the manufacture even after buying their shitty warranty
SARAH
potent arrow
Did you see that 12 rotor motor
celest violet
I mean depending on the product yeah they just give you another and send one back lmao
potent arrow
That's built to replace a big block
sly elk
-ponders again about that 392 wrangler-
deep sapphire
no wonder this video has 1 million views already
celest violet
Ltt has continued to make my life as a small local SI hell
When it's not ltt it's the "I have a friend who told me this is what's wrong with it"
potent arrow
That I'm fine with because 9/10 times they know I know better and don't fight
When I have to fight with a LTT fan, I simply turn them away lmfao
deep sapphire
LTT is good entertainment but he's like a scotty kilmer video
and we all know how dumb scotty kilmer is
he suggested people use compression fittings to fix brake lines after all
you know, the ones with flare nuts
potent arrow
Ok but let's be real
Atleast kilmer is visually insane
Like you can tell he's a jokester
That guy has definitely inhaled too much brake clean in his life
sly elk
I love watching scotty lol
honestly i wouldn't be surprised if he was a programmer back in the 90s
he just has that type
deep sapphire
potent arrow
HAHA
celest violet
A legend
sly elk
the best part is most of the titles don't actually refer to anything in the video
sly elk
but i'm searching for those and can't find them
potent arrow
PFFT
potent arrow
Anyways i do have a bottle of scotch for when Linus makes the company get cancelled or they run out of money
celest violet
I think they may not include the kernal and its just mods, so there may be a gray area
deep sapphire
dexcool is junk
celest violet
Not 100% sure
deep sapphire
maybe its okay now
but when it first came out
it just melted the fuckin seals away
clogged up the radiator
sly elk
sad northstar noises
minor hollow
Anyways i do have a bottle of scotch for when Linus makes the company get cancel...
If didnt happen when linus admitted to using the hard R, then it never will
potent arrow
I mean that was a slip up lol
minor hollow
Hilarious though
potent arrow
I had my hopes up
minor hollow
I saw that and was like what the fuck, dude
You could see his cohost's life flash before his eyes
"Oh god time to update the resume"
sly elk
If didnt happen when linus admitted to using the hard R, then it never will
the funny thing is that those shows are produced so he said it, and they left it in.
dull garnet
If didnt happen when linus admitted to using the hard R, then it never will
We all used a little hard r in the olden times
Actually I'm not sure which one that is at this point because you can't say the other word either
dull garnet
Ohhh lmao
I mean when you're at the helm of such a business you gotta treat any controversy as such basically
Gotta do a little theatrics
minor hollow
No he was admitting to how he changed from when he was younger
It wasn't for show
He said he and his friends used to throw the hard R around a lot
And you could see his cohost freeze
The fear was genuine
royal forge
Jesus christ google is so fuckin annoying
HURR YOU USED 88% OF YOUR STORAGE UPGRADE UPGRADE UPGRADE
Email, notifications, banner in gdrive itself despite dismissin multiple times
modest moss
stop uploading anime tiddies to your google drive
sacred sedge
Can I ask why I can not log in my lodestone after I have transferred my character from EU to NA.
royal forge
stop uploading anime tiddies to your google drive
Not my fault the tiddies are 8k
Also what the fuck Shue
royal forge
Can I ask why I can not log in my lodestone after I have transferred my characte...
R u on the eu or NA lodestone
modest moss
Can I ask why I can not log in my lodestone after I have transferred my characte...
it takes some time to complete afaik
royal forge
But ye, like Shue said. Takes a while
sacred sedge
It's about 1 week already D:
modest moss
did you get an email saying it was completed?
sacred sedge
Will they send email about that? I have already log in game. I though it was complete
modest moss
I thought they say don't log in until you get an email, but I've never transferred
it sounds like you need to contact SE support, but ask in #questions-and-help in case they have ideas
sacred sedge
All right. Thank you
minor hollow
Can I ask why I can not log in my lodestone after I have transferred my characte...
lodestone always slow af
prob takes a few hours
wait a whole week?
yeah not normal, contact them probably
modest moss
Can I ask how to contact them D:
sacred sedge
Thank You
It seemed weird. I can find my character in mog station but can't in lodestone
cerulean talon
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
!hank
opal pantherBOT
torpid kayak
LG 27GL850-B has its power button on the beneath side. Everytime I pushes to press it, my lowest-height monitor raises a little XD
sly elk
the joys of monitors X_X
paper tusk
mood
I'm back to ramming my head against flickering lines
decided to reseat and slay dust bunnies and now I can't reproduce the problem. yet
nothing happening temps wise
sly elk
that's not a bad temp at all
sharp star
66c is fine
paper tusk
vidya gaem knows my system
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
Weird proportions
paper tusk
welp solved the flashing lines. tv is failing
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
available for same day delivery
to be fair there's plenty of bad financial decisions available
paper tusk
the 666 bundle seems appropriately priced
sly elk
yea the tough part with those is that if I got what I really wanted it'd be $1000 probably
paper tusk
:<
sly elk
13900k and a nice z790 board with the debug screen & as many m.2 slots as possible, and corsair dominator ram because I'm an idiot that likes flashy things
... and probably a case that has better ventilation for that stupid 13900k.
microcenter does have that 799 bundle that doesn't have the mobo or ram i'd want 😄
paper tusk
I would go with teamgroup 6000/30 but that's because I'm a cheap ass bastard
140 moneys is not much more than I paid for ddr4 3600
paper tusk
bling
sly elk
I don't really want corsair ram again but I also like rgb and I don't wanna deal with other ram's rgb
ahhh the z790 sonic pg went down to 209
torpid kayak
electricity bill this month is one-fourth more than normal D:
dunno if it is my PC or not :shy:
sly elk
i want the sonic mobo
torpid kayak
sound fast
paper tusk
looks like 5th is wifi slot
sly elk
ahh good point
so that really gives you 4, which is still ok
the z790 that microcenter throws into their bundle only has 3 lol
lost python
i still want one of those gundam boards
sly elk
they were real cheap for a hot minute
livid dune
!hank
opal pantherBOT
livid dune
vtuber
🚮
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sharp star
wraith agate
Tummy
livid dune
!hank
opal pantherBOT
hard drift
glossy ravine
Hey yall. I finally got that USB to unlock the desktop I built for my siblings for Christmas.
I put Linux Mint on the USB. Now what should I do?
dull garnet
wipe the hdd and install a worthwhile operating system
modest moss
Hey yall. I finally got that USB to unlock the desktop I built for my siblings f...
You should probably ping whoever was helping you, because I sure as heck know nothing about Linux
Might also be wise to type up a summary of the situation to refresh people
glossy ravine
Right. Right. I think I figured it out though.
Thank you Shue.
opal pantherBOT
potent arrow
i think at this rate, that catgirl is our mascot haha
Trans color cat girls the best
glossy ravine
Chance Trans rights! Trans rights! Chants
lime wasp
So I'm thinking of watercooling my build....
Does this look like it would work? Overkill?
sharp star
needs more RGB
torpid kayak
just live in North Pole
sly elk
i'm loving the way they did the lights on the ceiling
lately the plants are really getting out there haha
torpid kayak
is there a point having a 5.1 speakers if you don't play FPS and don't have room to set the speakers :shy:
sly walrus
cerulean talon
!hank
opal pantherBOT
cerulean talon
!hank
opal pantherBOT
livid dune
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
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opal pantherBOT
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
cute
livid dune
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
blue is cool 😄
cerulean talon
!hank
opal pantherBOT
cerulean talon
We had some good porple this morning I saw
royal forge
Fuckin hell why does my work PC freeze when shutting down
deep sapphire
Fuckin hell why does my work PC freeze when shutting down
AMD?
cerulean talon
Amd never freezes, just fries
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
winter saffron
Hi! I’ve been having 90002 error for some weeks now, tried everything suggested by users on this server and now I’m trying a VPN, is there some specific configuration or setup I should use on my VPN? Cause connecting to different countries still gives me 90002 error every time… I don’t know what else to do… might it have to do with something on the ISPs end? Should I just change my provider?
golden stream
90002 is usually connection and many way of stuff
Possibly ISP end
suffering in SEA noises bc our ISPs are running by monkes
winter saffron
Yea, and let’s say I call so they can solve the problem, what specifically should I say is failing? Cause I know they are gonna try to say it’s a game problem, their servers etc… but I wanna let them believe that I know what I’m talking about and that they cannot bullshit me or fool kind of
deep sapphire
It’s a routing issue
Run a path ping or trace route and see where it’s continuing to drop
real edge
do a tracert to the server you are trying to connect to
winter saffron
Good good, how do I do that? I’m on windows
real edge
deep sapphire
I recommend using a program called winMTR
real edge
type cmd in your search bar and run that as admin, then type tracert server IP here
is the simple way, or what hank says
deep sapphire
If you don’t wanna download anything just open command prompt and type tracert <host ip> which would be the ip address of the server
cerulean talon
We should probably add a faq for that if we don't
cerulean talon
I know we've got one for the ips
deep sapphire
opal pantherBOT
cerulean talon
Excellent, task handoff into !hank
real edge
once you have your tracert results, show them to your ISP somehow
cerulean talon
Check with management, not me
cerulean talon
No, no, I'm administration
deep sapphire
what’s the difference
cerulean talon
You need actual management
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
Woah cute
winter saffron
If you don’t wanna download anything just open command prompt and type tracert <...
And the server in this case would be? I’m in Alpha if that has anything to do with it
opal pantherBOT
opal pantherBOT
!faq addresses
deep sapphire
!faq datacenterip
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
I gotchu bb
cerulean talon
cerulean talon
I blame silicon
royal forge
I blame humanity
deep sapphire
American sand works great
cerulean talon
Also true
cerulean talon
My sleep schedule is f'ed this week because humans are stupid
winter saffron
Doing it, can I share the results here so I can get some feedback?
royal forge
Uh
deep sapphire
Sure
cerulean talon
18 hours of meetings in 3 days
royal forge
18 hours of meetings in 3 days
Nice
deep sapphire
18 hours of meetings in 3 days
Wow you poor thing
royal forge
How productive
cerulean talon
Had 20+ last week
deep sapphire
Meetings are just breaks
winter saffron
deep sapphire
winter saffron
thats my proof to the isp that something is wrong on their end?
deep sapphire
It’s a problem yeah contact your ISP
Tell them that ip address
Tell them you are getting random connection drops
winter saffron
awesome, thanks!!
cerulean talon
Won't do anything
That ip is in squares house
It's a square router not responding, not the isp
Which is nornal for square most of the time tbh
winter saffron
so it means the problem is not the ISP then? its on square's end?
cerulean talon
A single traceroute doesn't really show long term packet loss
Which is what you need to determine where the actual issue is
Iirc, winmtr does over time traces
winter saffron
Which is what you need to determine where the actual issue is
ughhh, frustrating stuff, i dont have a way to do that really, right?
cerulean talon
There's always a way but they usually cost money or time :p
winter saffron
ill just call and tell them i dont know what the problem is, but since 1 week from now i am having issues when i usually was not having them... i guess
cerulean talon
Iirc, winmtr will track the loss if it sees it and you can run it for like 30 mins
Ideally, you'll have it running while you get the disconnect error
winter saffron
that can happen easily cause i get the error as soon as i log in, like no more than 15/30 seconds in
void dove
winmtr isn't reliable either, as many network devices will drop responses to icmp, if they are busy, as its low priority.
in the end, you may have a vague idea where the issue is, but it is never concrete, and its not like you can contact some big peering company thats 10 hops down the chain to have them fix their stuff, they will tell you to get lost. Its up to your ISP to make sure it all works and talk to those kinda people.
cerulean talon
Yeh, better than nothing tho
lost python
ah nice windows had its quarterly bullshit again today, for me
pretending like it updated and trying to get me to accept onedrive, office365 and edge as my browser
lost python
that setting is missing with 11
void dove
rip then
cerulean talon
Blessed pro workstation licenses, just disable everything via GPO.
sly elk
that setting is missing with 11
kindred brook
kindred brook
lol
dull garnet
isn't that the one sarah bought
umbral moss
that doesn't sound like sarah 🤔
celest violet
Haven't ran crystal disk to check yet, but seagate says two of my drives are damaged so that's fun
umbral moss
$250 for a 75%, yeah, but it would be a genuine custom
cerulean talon
I mean, yes, but you forget the 1000% Asus markup on the oled
potent arrow
Its right here
: 3
Good solid choice if you want to mod something
I made a custom plate for it out of POM, redid its gasket mount, put my own switches and stabs
shits pretty decent
probally going to cnc a better bottom case
dull garnet
see
kindred brook
how much did sarah pay
dull garnet
that much
devout nexus
this is how you know a marketing team is completely out of touch with reality *facepalm
sly elk
tbh selling games I wouldn't pay any attention to what the gaming subreddit or reviews say as long as the sales numbers were good
that market seems truly impossible to please
wraith agate
I need to see this video now
sly elk
oh no
@tame fulcrum have you ever pondered hooking your computer up to the sink? XD
that poor waterblock is gonna get caked with calcium lol
cerulean talon
Just run some vinegar through, she'll be right.
minor hollow
Simply replace your water in your system with CLR
glossy ravine
Today on, "unintutive design"
You can take a screenshot on the Samsung Galaxy S23 by... swiping the edge of the screen with your hand.
royal forge
Today on, "unintutive design"
You can take a screenshot on the Samsung Galaxy S...
Ah. The swipe method
Best way to spread the dirt on ya screen
glossy ravine
There is the button method but like.
Who is seriously going to use this?
Who is seriously going to use this in a practical manner?
graceful pine
Well that’s an oversight lol
deep sapphire
LMAO
sharp star
https://www.businessinsider.com/metaverse-dead-obituary-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-tech-fad-ai-chatgpt-2023-5 guys I don’t think we’re getting legs anymore
sly elk
ahhh i found my missing black n decker drill
it was in the box that got messed up from years of roof leaking lol
but the drill was in a box inside the box, so somehow it was spared
so were my old keyboards >>
sly elk
i remember during covid some dude from i think astranis or rocketlab posted a pic of their WFH setup and it was just like that haha
random marlin
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
pretty
sly elk
!hank
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
When people consider u a tech wizard when you know the wrap text button in excel
real edge
AMD will be switching its AGESA bios with an open-source alternative
livid dune
!hank
opal pantherBOT
livid dune
So many vtubers lol
real edge
the best
sharp star
livid dune
!hank
opal pantherBOT
livid dune
Is this another vtuber :sus:
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sharp star
wait, it’s all VTubers?
royal forge
always has been
umbral moss
in actual tech chat, is there any option for a 100% hot swap board besides keychron?
all the other vendors I found only do 65 or 75%
sharp star
Drop was the only good option like a few years ago but they fell off
umbral moss
I don't have a problem with using keychron, just wanted to see if there was some boutique Elite Vendor that I didn't know about
the only other 100% board I found was from some no-name vendor and it had a bunch of "board arrived dead" or "died after a month" reviews
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
golden stream
in actual tech chat, is there any option for a 100% hot swap board besides keych...
Ok how 100% hotswap?
There's Akko tho
However only recommend if you're in asia bc shipping u_u
Can confirm they have 100%, my fren bought one
Ehhhhhhhh iirc their switch is cherry compatible
hard drift
Ehhhhhhhh iirc their switch is cherry compatible
they aren't that bad for US shipping 
and it's any 3 and or 5 pin switch depending on the board
i got myself a mod 004 a while ago
sharp star
Yeah I went with a Keychron
golden stream
5 pins, iirc
hard drift
5 pins, iirc
my specific board is both but idk about some of the others
golden stream
But if u want no hassle, better be keychron
sharp star
I went with the Zealios V2 68g
not as great for gaming but I don't play fast-paced twitchy FPSes
golden stream
Their new gen switches are 5 pins tho
My fren only need something silent so his keeb is fine
Sometime got some switch defect but should be replaceable easily
sharp star
If I wanted to play shooters I'd swap to linears or lighter switches
golden stream
^
sharp star
Also this keyboard is heavy
sharp star
Or a bludgeon
golden stream
be MCH
grab le Keychron keeb
YEEEEEET
ez dmg
lime wasp
Question about the 7900 XTX reference cards; was the vapor chamber problem only if it was the standard flat (fans down) mounting?
I think remember it being said if it a vertical mount or bracket down mount (like in the Meshlicious) that the problem didn't occur?
graceful pine
Just get a superconductor computer /s
Most superconductors are chilled via liquid helium
graceful pine
It needs some form of midi input then
sly elk
I think you can straight up use an audio interface with an ipad, as long as yours has a usb-c port it's pretty easy
if it has a lightning port, you need a usb adapter and then there's the whole power limiting aspect
it might still be enough
at some point someone was selling lightning to usb-a for like $8 and I bought one just to see what I could do with it....
for the most part it's useless because it can't power shit
it can power one of my usb mics though, so that's cool
my camera already can talk to my phone via wifi and I bet that app works fine on ipads, it'd be neat if you could go straight from the camera into fcp but the transfer speed is way too slow for that over wifi
it'd probably also be a nice computer for live audio stuff on music, i think they're already used for that though
umbral moss
There's Akko tho
I bought a shitload of akko switches last month, but they were sold out of the 100% board when I ordered
that $39 shipping though 
fair parcel
!hank
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
Cute
sly elk
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
$39 shipping?! wth?! are they shipping them from nicaragua or something?
cerulean talon
!hank
opal pantherBOT
austere socket
Linux users BTFO once again
it's okay, they didn't need roblox anyway. they have plenty of better games to play such as
deep sapphire
Tux
austere socket
well yeah, but what does he have to do with gaming 
austere socket
I look it up
deep sapphire
It’s some shitty Mario clone
austere socket
deep sapphire
!hank
austere socket
sly elk
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/9fa66c83-a41d-4bda-832f-fa120ec2dc2f_1.e7277b4c...
also that tron game
another classic ofc
that said
I'll remember all your making fun of linux gaming the next time you complain about microsoft being microsoft with a windows 11 update
dull garnet
@sly elk this you? https://twitter.com/CompAesthetics/status/1656018225665122325?t=1tZeDHtRE4Sv8W41ZjDSUQ&s=19
hard drift
RTX 4090 **REQUIRED**
Gotta get use out of it somehow
hard drift
<a:fuming:967888433055936622>
dull garnet
Buying a 4090 in an era of unprecedentedly poor pc ports was a big brain play
cerulean talon
!hank
opal pantherBOT
cerulean talon
Perfect, rebooted into purple.
modest moss
Buy the mystery item
kindred brook
ima going to nap
modest moss
Why do you need a laptop
kindred brook
Oh It took me 20 seconds
for a good enough excuse
to get one
for when I go to my friends house
modest moss
Buy steam gift cards and get a steamdeck
kindred brook
oh wait what about that asus deck
modest moss
Is that out yet
modest moss
Idk
dull garnet
Seems promising
hard drift
Why don’t you stop looking at things to buy i swear you’re in here every week for it 😭
modest moss
He has vouchers from work reward scheme or something
hard drift
still, should wait for something actually good 😭
sly elk
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
she's really popular huh
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
hard drift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KDdU0DCbJA
i hate this video 😭 the high pitched noise
can't stand old tech and the high pitched noises they make
deep sapphire
can't stand old tech and the high pitched noises they make <:dorime:880516109701...
you remind me of that southpark episode when kyle's cousin comes to visit
hard drift
you remind me of that southpark episode when kyle's cousin comes to visit
my ears are super sensitive okay 😭 i nearly ace'd the damn hearing test too
lime wasp
I'll ask again since it seemed to be missed last time.
About the 7900 XTX reference cards; was the vapor chamber problem only if it was the standard flat (fans down) mounting?
I think remember it being said if it a vertical mount or bracket down mount (like in the Meshlicious) that the problem didn't occur?
deep sapphire
I'll ask again since it seemed to be missed last time.
About the 7900 XTX refere...
I think they already fixed it if you just bought yours
lime wasp
I think they already fixed it if you just bought yours
I haven't bought one yet; but a coworker wants help with an ITX build for their living room and a 7900 XTX would be the best bet for their 4k TV.
But finding a 7900 XTX that fits ITX cases that isn't the Ref. version is kinda annoying.
hard drift
I'll ask again since it seemed to be missed last time.
About the 7900 XTX refere...
it was a small batch that had an issue with the amount of liquid actually in the vapor chamber
it is non existent now as an issue
lime wasp
I see
wraith agate
<a:pensivewobble:620416696083021837> my ears are super sensitive okay 😭 i nearl...
This reminds me I failed both my hearing and eyesight tests
hard drift
sharp star
sharp star
tl;dw on the failure analysis video: their findings suggest that a dielectric insulation layer near the transistor layer became conductive over time and when it got bad enough it caused a thermal run-away. up to around 1400 Celsius in small areas
sly elk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFNi3YNJXbY
ASUS is a scumbag company
sly elk
sigh.
zinc sluice
tl;dw on the failure analysis video: their findings suggest that a dielectric in...
wtf
sly elk
tl;dw on the failure analysis video: their findings suggest that a dielectric in...
which can happen if you juice it too much for too long
chrome oracle
been watching the 7000X3D series debacle for a minute. It's a shame because I'm looking at making a new build and I only play MMOs so the choice was obvious. Normally I'd still pull the trigger and make manual adjustments to the voltages, but some mobos aren't even adhering to those manual values or are misreporting voltages.
For the sake of existing owners, I hope that stuff gets fixed soon. Noticed the AGESA/BIOS updates is an ongoing fiasco too
real edge
the 7000X3D series is still really good, but I would recommend waiting a generation tbh
the 8000X3D will not have growing pains like the 7000X3D will
golden stream
I'll wait anyway, for le APU and ITX board
livid dune
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sharp star
as far as I can tell my 7950X3D hasn’t started that self-destruction process because the Vcore was always under 1.3v
also not an Asus motherboard
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
double
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
calm wave
is it possible to lock the corsair in action mode? Insdtead of holding the right mb...
fair parcel
double double 
calm wave
?
umbral moss
tl;dw on the failure analysis video: their findings suggest that a dielectric in...
that seems like a pretty reasonable microscopic effect, given that dendritic formation is a common failure mode for most dielectrics
enough thermal or voltage cycling will get you, the dislocations start to align and then you get a short circuit path that cuts right through the material
modest moss
!hank
opal pantherBOT
modest moss
Cute but booo not a triple double
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
potent arrow
@deep sapphire
modest moss
That might be the new 'most American thing I've ever seen'
deep sapphire
Ikr
sly elk
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
Good morning XD
modest moss
We have to ping @cerulean talon for that level of purple
cerulean talon
V.purple. highly approved
chrome oracle
my goodness, so much anime stuffs
tho i guess that tracks for this game lol
ive been trying to figure out if i should go with an i7-13700k or a 7800X3D (after that nasty issue is resolved) for FF14/WoW
the former is the better all-rounder, sure, but I think the high cache in the latter would seriously pay off in highly populated areas. But reviewers only use the benchmarking tool and I feel that doesn't paint an accurate picture of real gameplay.
modest moss
@deep sapphire hows that 13700k doing in limsa at 4k
sly elk
if I buy a 13th gen I want a 13900k because I already had a 700k and regretted not getting the 900k lol
real edge
ive been trying to figure out if i should go with an i7-13700k or a 7800X3D (aft...
the high cache helps quite a bit in MMORPGs and AM5 will last for quite a while as a platform so you will have upgrades in the future as well with the same motherboard and ram
but for intel if you ever want to upgrade from the 13700k ull have to swap motherboard with the cpu
basically
if you find a good bundle for the 13700k with DDR5 ram then go for it
otherwise AM5 has longevity and performance going for it
(once the stupid voltage issues are resolved)
if you want cheap vcache
the 5800X3D AM4 is still great
it competes with intel 13th gen competitively
somehow
so in detail
dull garnet
Is this technology
real edge
ive been trying to figure out if i should go with an i7-13700k or a 7800X3D (aft...
AM5: The most expensive but has longevity as a platform and will get supported, has the current best performance in games.
Intel 13th Gen: All-rounder, good productivity and good in games, worth it in a bundle with DDR5 ram or Mobo, platform is at the end of its life, no new CPUs will come out for it.
AM4 5800X3D: The best performance per dollar right now, competes with Intel 13th Gen in gaming performance, is at the end of its life.
sly elk
(once the stupid voltage issues are resolved)
I joined the discussion on /r/hardware about that and it was like
asus is a scumbag company
"yea I know, I'm never buying an asus motherboard again"
"idk dude, all the other brands are shit too"
deep sapphire
I’ve never had problems with ASUS personally but I do agree this was a pretty bad oversight
deep sapphire
<@54695380410966016> hows that 13700k doing in limsa at 4k
Fantastic
modest moss
I've never had problems with asus either tbh
deep sapphire
It’s a total crapshoot with boards. I’ve heard asrock sucks, MSI sucks yadda yadda
opal pantherBOT
real edge
personally
I've never really had motherboard issues ever
my first motherboard
was an Asrock h81
it was for a dual core intel
then it was an asrock z97 extreme4
then I had an ASUS x470 Prime
now I have a b550 gigabyte aorus elite v2
real edge
now that I look at it
that z97 asrock board was stacked as fuck
lmao
really reminds me as to how much companies cheapen out on parts nowdays
deep sapphire
One thing people love to ignore is AMD’s infamous firmware bullshit that always has small issues and they have to constantly issue updates which is a toss up if your board vendor even bothers to update it
A customer shouldn’t have to even touch the firmware in the first place shit should just work
real edge
personally my x470 board was always supported by ASUS firmware-wise
real edge
that is the unfortunate thing with AMD tbh
you need to wait a bit until things cook before getting anything from that gen
deep sapphire
Which again goes back to my point I’ve been saying all these years lol. I use to be an AMD fanboy but its always been like this
real edge
yeah it always has, their products are good but they always need time to cook and some finagling with bios stuff
deep sapphire
The only Intel chipset I had some annoyance with was X58 but that was more of a design flaw with how they handled SATA 6
real edge
intel works out of the box but may lack future CPU support
AMD needs bios updates and time to cook but supports more CPUs
so it just depends on how tech literate each person is
tech illiterate people may benefit from intel more as they do not have to bother with anything
it certainly helped me back when I was a teen and did not know about stuff
but now that I know about stuff more and how to mess with the bios and update it, AMD appeals to me more because of future support
I like the idea of buying one motherboard for one cpu, keeping the cpu for 4-5 years
then upgrading to top-of-the-line then without needing anything else and keeping it for another 4-5yrs
deep sapphire
intel works out of the box but may lack future CPU support
Which personally I’m fine with as I’ve never built a new system within a few years usually I’ll go 3-4 years minimum which by then you might as well buy a new board but that’s just my opinion
real edge
depends on new techs I guess for me
what new boards offer than old ones
boards are becoming increasingly advanced nowdays, we basically got all the new techs we could have gotten
PCIe 4 is good enough for all GPUs
we have ddr5
sata and m2
what else is there
deep sapphire
Yeah it’s not like the 90s or 00s when shit felt obsolete after 3 years lmao
You can get by fine with most hardware 5+ years
I had that 1070 and it served me well
minor hollow
i still have a 1070 ti
deep sapphire
But I wanted to go 4K and even overwatch would probably run like shit
minor hollow
been looking for a reason to upgrade but i don't play fps anymore
and not felt compelled yet
i really woulda upgraded during the 20XX series if not for the egregious supply issues and scalping
but when i didn't, then suddenly the 'need' to upgrade became a lot less urgent
chrome oracle
this is probably the best possible time for an nvidia/amd upgrade
minor hollow
20xx series was just bad
yeah but it was like an 8 year old card
i just wanted to upgrade lol
then i didn't because of all the shenanigans in the generation
real edge
30xx was decent on the higher end but haha supply and scalping
minor hollow
and i was like "huh, i don't feel like i'm missing out actually"
real edge
40xx is good but too expensive
tbh the 1070 is fine for me but
its very old now and I am concerned about it dying
lost python
its very old now and I am concerned about it dying
and then there is me with still a 980 in my second pc
real edge
do you actively use it
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
chrome oracle
this is probably the best possible time for an nvidia/amd upgrade
by this, i mean 30xx has no stock issues and both the 30xx and 6xxx series cards are price reduced significantly. the 3070/6800 (even the Ti/XT models) is in that sweet spot of performance value
umbral moss
Buy a 4090 just to play ffxiv
unironically same
spend $7000 on a super rig just to get 90 fps in limsa 
deep sapphire
I was only getting 45 FPS at 1440P on my old setup. Seeing 90-110 at 4K is pretty sweet
Cat girls high def 4K
sly elk
what was your old setup?
dull garnet
the 2017 special
deep sapphire
what was your old setup?
6700K and 1070
sly elk
6700K and 1070
ahh ok
i think the things that make a 7800x3d attractive to me are the lower price, the (potentially) better thermals, and the AM5 socket being brand new for this year vs the LGA1700 socket being old news that is about to be abandoned forever
intel: hell yea, next socket is LGA1701, and that extra pin is a new super important pin! (it's a ground that isn't connected to anything)
umbral moss
intel: hell yea, next socket is LGA1701, and that extra pin is a new super impor...
amd: we left out a ground pin connection on the socket layout, so your CPU might melt sometimes
sly elk
but did they? or did asus just juice the hell out of the cpu
(that is not a new problem. auto OC on asus boards has historically given the CPU a lot of juice)
umbral moss
apparently the problem is a NC pin that shouldn't be NC
sly elk
(Asus' firmware dev's logic being: higher vcore means fewer crashes when OCing!)
sly elk
apparently the problem is a NC pin that shouldn't be NC
hmm that's a different conclusion than the one I'd been hearing
umbral moss
I thought I saw something about there being a thermal issue induced by overloading a pin, because one of them wasn't connected
sly elk
ohhh
so the nc pin is being powered on the mb side? lol
haha this comment
192GB at DDR5-6000 has never been stable on AM5, hell even z790 boards will struggle to get 192GB of RAM running at DDR5-6000, you always have to reduce memory speeds if you are using such ridiculous amounts of memory.
ridiculous amounts of memory
ahhhh pc gamign hardware sucks
chrome oracle
but did they? or did asus just juice the hell out of the cpu
it may be a "both sides are to blame" situation here. we don't know specifics yet, but it stands to reason that AMD didn't communicate/police appropriate tolerances with the chipset and/or their AGESA firmware is bugged.
All manufacturers across certain models are experiencing bugs regarding voltage readings and configurations, so my personal guess is to look at the constant variable between them all. ASUS is unique in that they're experiencing a separate issue: the voltage protection failing. Combine the two and there's your chip/socket melting.
imo, 192GB is a ridiculous amount of RAM for a consumer desktop with hardware built for and marketed towards power users and gamers. Redundancy and capacity is heavily sacrificed for cost-effective performance at a reasonable power/thermal package that can comfortably exist in a quiet, air-conditioned home/office.
same reason why consumer home networking hardware is garbage lol. of course im not excusing that it sucks that we rely on some awful router/firewall/AP/switch combo with an underpowered processor and a small fan inside a small box.
cerulean talon
Buy a 4090 just to play ffxiv
This is the only answer. nods
odd sand
ahhhh pc gamign hardware sucks
They're not wrong. Servers aren't known for memory speed. I'm not aware of DDR5 server speeds, but I assume they're probably DDR5-4800. Much like the majority of Xeon servers used DDR4-2400 or 2666
chrome oracle
They're not wrong. Servers aren't known for memory speed. I'm not aware of DDR5 ...
you correct ive only seen 4800mt enter our DCs
odd sand
I think there may have been some higher end Xeons more recently that could address up to 3200mt DDR4 but I don't think most were rich enough for that heh
hard drift
Cat girls high def 4K
too bad the game textures hold 4k back
deep sapphire
too bad the game textures hold 4k back <:dorime:880516109701365820>
Reshade and texture packs help a little
hard drift
Reshade and texture packs help a little
yeah but everytime you have to update it becomes a mess having to always reenable the shit
deep sapphire
yeah but everytime you have to update it becomes a mess having to always reenabl...
True
odd sand
Yeah, looks like the final gen of DDR4 Xeon-W cpus reached DDR4-3200, up from 2933. And server were at 2666.
So it's not surprising with DDR5 still relatively newish, that memory controllers don't do well at higher clocks.
Although I imagine that also depends on what Rank the memory is, right?
1R vs 2R etc.
Huh... the lowest end current Xeons are DDR5-4400 even. Isn't that below the min JDEC spec?
deep sapphire
it may be a "both sides are to blame" situation here. we don't know specifics ye...
This is what I’m saying as well. Like ASUS is shitty for trying to negate warranty claims yes but why would they release a product with such a massive blunder that could cause catastrophic failure and even potentially cause a fire. They aren’t going to risk that liability at any cost just for some supposed performance gains. AMD should be doing more to regulate the specifics of what it’s partners are releasing if this is considered a common practice (other vendors were caught doing the same thing they just had a better design to mitigate the massive failure)
fair parcel
AMD 
sly elk
This is what I’m saying as well. Like ASUS is shitty for trying to negate warran...
I doubt ASUS actually gives any shit about their customers
they're not even an american company so their fears of a lawsuit over a fire are probably lower than they should be
I keep saying this is what we get when all the companies making hardware are just taiwanese firms that have a couple salespeople in some random office in los angeles
for foxconn or whoever actually makes the motherboards, it's just a side gig they do when they're not busy building iphones
lost python
i mean, AMD communication or not, a failing OCP is purely asus' responsibility
sly elk
the one thing i'm still laughing about
is the only defense ASUS fanboys can come up with about asus being a trash company
all hardware companies are trash it just depends how obvious it is or if they get caught or not
... ASUS probably makes more money selling people broken routers that die after the warranty ends.
lost python
400$ router with 10 antennas
sly elk
donut router
umbral moss
donut router
you laugh but this is peak radio emission design
fair parcel
why does that speaker have so many ports
hollow hamlet
How many miles do I need to drive a Chevy Silverado to reset it and get the engine light off to pass inspection?
sly elk
why does that speaker have so many ports <:Hmmge:965744868989210695>
Now that you mention it, my unifi dream machine has a speaker in it
sadly it's not usable as a bluetooth speaker, although i think it also has bluetooth
hollow hamlet
How many miles do I need to drive a Chevy Silverado to reset it and get the engi...
@deep sapphire just ping me whenever, oh resident Chevrolet fanatic! And does it need to be done on different trips, or can it be in one sitting? Mechanic said 100 miles. I’m like wtf
lime wasp
Question:
What would y'all recommend for a 240mm/280mm AIO for an SFF build?
That isn't Corsair because the case won't have room for the controller and fuck that cabling.
EDIT: Also Arctic probably won't work because of the extra thick rad.
odd sand
How many miles do I need to drive a Chevy Silverado to reset it and get the engi...
Buy a bluetooth ODB reader for $15-20 and reset it with a phone app 
hollow hamlet
Then I see “how to” videos on google, saying idle for x minutes, accelerate to 55 for 3 minutes then coast down to 20 mph without braking
I’m like wtf even is this
They replaced the fuel pressure sensor thingamajig if that helps narrow down the query
hollow hamlet
Buy a bluetooth ODB reader for $15-20 and reset it with a phone app <:vivsmug:83...
I just bought a desk, maybe I’ll buy a speaker…
sly elk
Question:
What would y'all recommend for a 240mm/280mm AIO for an SFF build?
T...
outside of corsair and artic the rest are pretty much all the same asetek cooler in a different looking package
outside of corsair/arctic, lian li would be my first choice, followed maybe by nzxt, but then there's also stuff from fractal, coolermaster, evga, etca
lime wasp
I was looking at EK because they apparently have a non-Asetek cooler
sly elk
also
lime wasp
And are rated up there with Arctic
sly elk
some corsairs have built in controllers
but then you don't get rgb lights
yea that's cool, I knew about the EK coolers but I didn't know they were highly rated
lime wasp
The problem is it's going to be the Meshroom S with a Red Devil 7900 XTX
Technically the Arctic would fit, but the Red Devil won't leave enough room for the cables and would press right up against the the thicker Arctic Rad
And definitely won't leave room for the Corsair controller for any of the more modern AIOs
sly elk
as mentioned before, corsair does make an aio that doesn't use a separate controller
that said
it's still more wiring than a lian li would have
bbut lian li only makes theirs in 240mm
hmm but even that isn;'t so great
yea looking at the reviews they're all about the same
so go with whatever turns ya on ^^
deep sapphire
How many miles do I need to drive a Chevy Silverado to reset it and get the engi...
Depends on the code, you can reset it with a scan tool or if it’s older you can just unplug the negative battery cable for 5 minutes and that should reset it
Some codes are stored permanently like ABS lights but yeah you can just rent a scan tool at any auto part store for free and do it in the parking lot
sly elk
if it weren't for the hollowbody's goofy "ma look I'm a violin!" holes, I think I'd be interested
it's like half les paul, half SG, half mustache guitar
chrome oracle
This is what I’m saying as well. Like ASUS is shitty for trying to negate warran...
full agree
hollow hamlet
Depends on the code, you can reset it with a scan tool or if it’s older you can ...
They said it needs to be driven and reset a drive cycle or whatever
I’m just wondering if I really need to drive it 100 miles x_X