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lament crow
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time for a new one

deep sapphire
lament crow
hard drift
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time to buy another

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i think imma buy one with my enlistment bonus dorime

deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
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I think im good for awhile

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unlike RTX 3070 owners

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🤣

hard drift
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well, back to the void i go pensivewobble

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still sad over my failure 😭

lament crow
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hi hank

deep sapphire
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failed what

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I just woke up

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went home early

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took a nap

hard drift
deep sapphire
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wow

hard drift
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but for 4 days of studying, not bad

lament crow
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:(

hard drift
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plus i had work while studying lol

deep sapphire
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better enlist in the army

hard drift
deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
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I'll wait

hard drift
deep sapphire
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sips beer

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you work at a sports store

lament crow
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do they let you drink whey in basic?

hard drift
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I AM NOT WORKING TODAY

deep sapphire
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GET YOUR ASS OVER THERE AND BUY ONE THEY COST LIKE 30 BUCKS

hard drift
hard drift
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i'd rather not buy shit from work lol

deep sapphire
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excuses

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cant do em

hard drift
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most of the stuff is bad quality haha

hard drift
deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
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overqualified my ass

hard drift
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what if i can?

deep sapphire
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if you could you'd already have a pull up bar

hard drift
deep sapphire
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🤣

hard drift
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didn't i show you the damn crack up the wall

deep sapphire
lament crow
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did you do that

deep sapphire
hard drift
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There’s cracks in other spots of the apartment too lol

deep sapphire
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buy from better dealers

hard drift
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But the people won’t fix it

deep sapphire
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dude trying to scam me

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🤣

hard drift
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Lmao

sly elk
sly elk
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but yes, drywall can crack. especially if you live next to a busy street or have an earthquake, or your building was built on interesting soil and it settles a little more than they thought it would or something

hard drift
sly elk
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but roof leakage can also cause cracks

hard drift
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there's one that runs on the ceiling ASevil

sly elk
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those cracks look different though

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yea before i moved into this house 5 years ago, the landlord replaced all of the ceiling drywall because he wanted to get rid of the cottage cheese and install pot lights, and said he got fed up cleaning up the mess

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idk his reasoning exactly but that's what he says lol

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there are fairly visible cracks on the seams lmao

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but the seam between the ceiling and the walls in my bedroom is FUCKED

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one of the skylights in another room leaks and I think the water is running from that leak into that spot with the cracks. Landlord doesn't care lol.

hard drift
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damn rip

graceful pine
dusty mortar
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Look e' here lads

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A smartphone that folds

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Words cannot describe how much I need this

sly walrus
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samsung

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nah

dusty mortar
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I do not entertain the mindless garbled opinions of an Apple simp fumo

odd sand
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I don't like the giant crease in those kind. Also $1800 or whatever playdead

dusty mortar
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Yes but you get 100% more screen per screen

odd sand
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If I want double the screen I'll pull out a tablet that doesn't have a giant crease I won't be able to help from staring at the entire time...?

sharp star
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nope it's a Samsung product, and Samsung has had bad QC as of late

dusty mortar
sharp star
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"HAHA IT WAS A JOKE PLEASE LAUGH"

sly walrus
royal forge
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Jokes on you, I'm a Nokia simp

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Dont make me whip out my blackberry

sly walrus
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are they still a thing

royal forge
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I dunoe

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Ya checked ya brick walls recently?

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3310 in there

dusty mortar
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This new foldable phone looks pog but

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It cost a lot of monies and it has no earphone jack

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Why

real edge
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we went from foldable phones to brick smartphones

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now we're back to foldables

dusty mortar
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Oh man remember back in early '10s when phones were super tiny

sly walrus
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people dropped their razr down the storm drain one too many times

dusty mortar
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Anyways reject smol return to bricc

lost python
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Why the heck are offices always so horny for mice without thumb buttons

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There hasn't been a single office i have worked in that had some

dull garnet
sly walrus
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less

dusty mortar
dull garnet
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how they look after a year

sly walrus
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is that a screen protector or is the screen just that shit

dull garnet
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that's how the screen is

dusty mortar
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hmmmm

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I no longer wish for the foldy phone

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thx guys u saved me monies

sly walrus
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samsung: not even once

dusty mortar
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yeah but it's kinda the only choice here

sly walrus
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imports?

dusty mortar
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technically there's Apple too but I'd rather clean up a brony hoarder's room with my bare hands before touching that

dull garnet
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apple is 10x better than samsung

dull garnet
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hey it doesn't hurt me if you're bigoted

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just trying to help

dusty mortar
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no but seriously I hate Apple as a company

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not the products

livid dune
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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dull garnet
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🤔

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and yet

golden stream
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Eh Imma take le Note w le stylus over Apple, can't write shiet haha

deep sapphire
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Jesus

odd sand
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I see this from time to time in videos and have to ask ... why not just take a couple loads than risk dumping all your shit onto the highway and destroying it? omegabruh

odd sand
sharp star
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Valve please save us from Windows' tyranny

odd sand
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640K of L3 cache is enough for everyone.

modern iris
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For ram is a lower cl better?

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Is 4x8 cl 18 3600 mhz good? I'm looking at some 2x16 3600 cl14 and those are so expensive

deep sapphire
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Yes

modest moss
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lower cl is better yeah, but it's not huge gains

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cl 18 is fine for ddr4 iirc, I think I bought cl 16

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price difference was small enough that I went with that

modern iris
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Cl 16 3200?

modest moss
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cl 16 3600 is mine

modern iris
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I wanna get 2x16 cuz I read 2 sticks is better than 4 for 5600x

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Ah ok

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Now I see why ram varies so much in price

modest moss
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I have 2x16

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I really don't think the average user would notice the difference between cl 16 and 18 in real time usage anyway tbh

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I was about to buy 18 and one of the regulars here joked about it so I changed it haha

fair parcel
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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deep sapphire
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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deep sapphire
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Cute

royal forge
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I fukken swear

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Im cursed with tech

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I just disconnected a CAT cable from modem to router

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Shit fukken broke

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Wont work

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Then after i filed for a technician to come check it

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It works

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Literally me

hard drift
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super unfortunate ish?

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lol

royal forge
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I dont fukken know

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Like, when i tried to connect with my old 20m long CAT cable

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I realized the cable was damaged

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Or something

royal forge
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While i was scrambling to connect via LAN

hard drift
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the apus we all want are coming ASevil

royal forge
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And to top it off

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Theres this software for medical stuff

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My dad uses it

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And he's tryin to make backups, which i applaud him for

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Problem is, this shit is so fukken weird, i cant even find where the records are stored

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I dont even know if I can even READ the data if i were to find it

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Like, i can find the program location just fine. No fukken clue wherw the records go tho

real edge
royal forge
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He was gonna buy a whole new "cpu" i.e. desktop just for backup

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I kinda volunteered my old build for him

royal forge
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Shit will work

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No clue why

dull garnet
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for example I have 4x single ranked dimms on my 5600x, my b450 + 5600x have no problem setting the xmp timing for these

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if you had 4x dual ranked dimms it would be unlikely that the xmp profile would be stable

umbral moss
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did AMD release the tray pricing for the Z1 XXXTREME

sly elk
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i'm sure it'll compete with the CORE 9 ULTRA

umbral moss
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oh, apparently the 7840U is above the Z1 XXXTREME

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the Z1 is a semi-custom version of the r5 tier, it looks like?

sly elk
umbral moss
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I really hate that marketing people just append "extreme" to everything

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if it's all extreme, nothing is extreme

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fuck all y'all

sly elk
hard drift
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I9 ultra ASevil

sly elk
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^ they make it sound like this is a bad thing

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I read that as fantastic news. Only 30%? The doomsayers made it sound like producing tech in the US would make it cost 3x more or something

real edge
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to me it sounds like we're paying 30% more for future gpus

sly elk
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probably not even. Nvidia's profits are so ridiculous atm they'd probably end up eating some of that 30%, but even if they didn't, I'd pay it lol.

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I mean it's still not the best news lol, but I see it as a little bit of a relief at least

cerulean talon
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Tbh, gimme chips from a known US foundry and I'll pay extra, no problem.

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My issue will be when we can't tell where they're sourced from, and they just scoop the 30% extra profit from all foundries.

lost python
wide hill
deep sapphire
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Nvidia spends a shit ton on RnD though

hard drift
devout nexus
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i recall about 5 years ago it would only cost about 6$ more to produce the iphone in US than in china

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not sure how true that is

deep sapphire
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The problem is small components are difficult to assemble affordably

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China has grown to become a manufacturing powerhouse but with that they have leveraged themselves and companies can’t really do much about it if they want the best

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It can certainly be done here but you’ll have to pay people well if they are gonna have to do small component assembly by hand

graceful pine
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Taiwan is a very highly developed free market economy and is a high income country

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China is only a middle income country

devout nexus
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yeah true, im gonna see for myself in a few weeks at computex XD

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gonna be an adventure

graceful pine
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I’m an advocate of 0 tariffs

sly elk
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I'm a fan of the idea of "we're the best and we don't need to rig the game to make ourselves the best"

sly elk
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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cerulean talon
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Purple!

wraith agate
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I like her

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She's cute

glossy ravine
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Apparently Ryzen 7 7800X3D chips are exploding

sharp star
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der8auer said it wasn't limited to X3D chips

glossy ravine
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I just found out. Holy hell.

I think I'm safe with my 7 5800X3D.

sharp star
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I have a 7950X3D and it hasn't exploded because my mobo isn't Asus

sharp star
sly elk
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fancy

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it'd be neat if someone made a waterblock that was more minimal

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like just covering the parts it needs to

deep sapphire
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but 1000 bucks for no reason

modest moss
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don't become Ice

sly walrus
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full loop around your house

sharp star
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no man you don't wanna become Ice

sly elk
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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POISE | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92698464
royal forge
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Its google

sly elk
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maybe i should get a fractal north

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and put a ton of RGB in it

royal forge
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I mean..

wraith agate
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I have to tap an anus now to access my accounts?

sly elk
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mmm

royal forge
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Mmhmm

sly elk
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ya know I realized at some point

royal forge
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Google is a deviant

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Also, they do the MOST unnecessary changes

sly elk
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i'd really rather keep that shit to a separate 3rd party account

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i don't want this 'ecosystem' bull anymore

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i'll use 1password or bitwarden or whatever for my passwords and whatever and a yubikey or whatever

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i don't wanna have my "someone stole my iphone and locked me out of my apple id" be the ultimate bad day

royal forge
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My password is all 123456

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Not really bit

sly elk
royal forge
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But*

sly elk
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also I expect

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the shared system that runs the 15 year old version of epic hyperspace on windows xp

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the password is

royal forge
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I mean, for work, we all share the same account

sly elk
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'password123'

royal forge
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Fuuuccckkk that

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Literally abc123

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Because fuck any effort

sly elk
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cause some more malpractice lawsuits

royal forge
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Damn. What did i do to u

sly elk
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"why'd you give them 12mcg?!"

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"I didn't, I gave them 12mg"

royal forge
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Mine is p shit

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Fuck you autocorrect

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My handwriting is first few letters then a line

sly elk
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there's a certain amount of "I'm too smart for that shit" required to graduate medical school

royal forge
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Nah

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Its just

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the opposite

sly elk
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that said

royal forge
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Im too fukken dumb

sly elk
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i want a doctor that has

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cutesey girly handwriting

royal forge
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Pls dont make me use brain

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I know a dude who has p decent handwriting

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Even the girls have shit handwriting

sly elk
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idk mine depends on how much i have to write

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^ when I was in college

royal forge
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Still readable

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👏👏👏

eager sandal
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doctors have like 10 minutes to talk about like 5 medical issues a patient has

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if they had time they'd probably be able to write legibly

void dove
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lol, friend of mine, does rediculously fancy calligraphy

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he just, learnt it randomly because he felt like it

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then uses it to write fucked up stuff when he's bored on client meetings

sly elk
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i have no idea why i wrote this anymore

void dove
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like really fancy calligraphy, of swear words

royal forge
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I dunoe if i shud post my handwriting

deep sapphire
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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royal forge
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Cuz its QUITE identifiable

sly elk
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haha

royal forge
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Lmao

eager sandal
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its uh, small

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i write mega zoomed in

royal forge
sly elk
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ha my mom worked for a doctor for a while

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he'd get calls from the pharmacy every now and then

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some were "we don't know what they wrote" but most were "did you know that dude has codeine prescriptions from like 5 other doctors?"

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ok maybe not most but she had a story or two of that

royal forge
royal forge
sly elk
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O_o

royal forge
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It explained SO much

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Cuz the bastard refused a HIV test when we wanted to test

sly elk
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yea if I go I explain whatever observations I can think of, even if I think it's noise. it might help paint a better picture haha

royal forge
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Nono

sly elk
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with the assumption it's all normal xD

eager sandal
royal forge
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That is the patient being malicious

eager sandal
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so i can write pretty neatly if i tried

sly elk
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good!

sly elk
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then i'm malicious

royal forge
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Fuckin mood

royal forge
sly elk
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^ probably me IRL

royal forge
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Malicious is deliberately withholding info

sly elk
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OH

eager sandal
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he only has like 5 slides total including the intro and ending usually

royal forge
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Like, if you HAVE the HIV, you fucking tell the doctor TAKING YOUR FUCKING BLOOD AND TOUCHIN YOUR FUCKIN WOUNDS

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Cuz its not fair to us

royal forge
eager sandal
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yes he has a PhD teaching fundamentals

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overqualified af and gave us a really hard exam

royal forge
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Im always impressed with profs that can teach with just bullet points

eager sandal
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its an acquired skill you get thru public speaking

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and its a pretty useful skill

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you can talk random shit abt smt you know next to nothing about and still manage to make sense

royal forge
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Small talk is an underrated skill

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Casual talk

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With strangers

sly elk
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mm in engineering there's a line between talking about something you don't know about and being able to work your way through it

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and pissing off other engineers because you're trying to BS them

eager sandal
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oh for the technical aspects you definitely wouldnt know shit lol

sly elk
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it's the easiest way to fail an interview

eager sandal
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just saying you can expound on points that you currently know about for a long time

sly elk
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people who never use the phrase "I don't know" aren't hired where I work ahhahaha

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sure

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and in some science subjects it's even a skill you learn right?

eager sandal
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maybe?

sly elk
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"I don't know X, but I know Y and Z, and if I fuss around with them, maybe I can figure out X"

eager sandal
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i dont have science im a business major 😭

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but i was able to get that thru debate

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you're always gonna ask "why" for every single point you make and expound on it until you have nothing left to expound on

cerulean talon
lost python
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This is cool af

royal forge
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Im so annoyed they're kinda forcin win 11 on people

deep sapphire
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8+ years old now lol

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most windows only live like 3-4 years at the most

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with a long grace period on the back burner

royal forge
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I tried using it

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Really fukken detested it

deep sapphire
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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royal forge
deep sapphire
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I went to 11 with my new PC

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its pretty ass but w/e

royal forge
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I prob just gonna hang on

void dove
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windows 10, "technically" is 8_+ years old, so yea,
But windows 10 has had a lot of fundamental changes since it was released in 2015, much more than any previous windows version, because they wanted to be able to move to a more flexible OS model, where they can make major changes without waiting 3-4 years between

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compare Win10 build 1507, to current Win10 build 22H2, on the surface AND especially under the covers they are very different

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windows 11, is really mostly just another windows 10 major update
it makes some under the cover changes, but the more drastic changes are the visuals, but we've had some similar changes before in Win10, that people didn't like, but people just get used to it and forget about it.

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and Microsoft just wants to be able to market it, hence its 11

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fundamentally, its a regular major build update of Win10, with some ui changes and a name change.

royal forge
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If they could just give back a similar UI to 10, i'd try

deep sapphire
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ha, remember when MS said windows 10 was "the last numbered windows"

royal forge
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Oh yes

deep sapphire
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and windows going forward were just gonna be feature builds

void dove
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lol yea i never believed it

royal forge
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That backpedal

deep sapphire
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that sure lasted long! /s

void dove
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new numbers = marketing

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free publicity

royal forge
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If they just said "hey you can have it look like 10" i'd take it

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But no

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Gotta push ads too

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Thats what ticks me off

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Ads in my OS

void dove
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ads have been there since day 1 sadly 😦

royal forge
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Holy shit

void dove
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in the start menu

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like fucking candy crush

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news stuff,

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tbh, ive used all windows versions since win95

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and ive just learned to go with the flow

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though, im not on 11 yet

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i have my PC hard set to stay on 10 😄

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current win10 build stops support in Oct 2025, so im good for a bit

deep sapphire
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that reminds me

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I need to change my password to a local user group policy

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cause the MS account thing is just so poorly implemented

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holy shit

void dove
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mhmm

deep sapphire
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in Win10, it was just a regular login prompt

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in Win 11, it goes to an entirely different window

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and its bugged out 5 times now for me

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where I cant put anything in the field box

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and I tried a virtual keyboard

void dove
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well newer versions of Win10 try to force you to use a MS account, you can't bypass it when installing Win10 anymore

deep sapphire
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so it isnt my keyboard

void dove
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UNLESS you disconnect from the internet

deep sapphire
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oh brother

void dove
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which is what i do 😄

deep sapphire
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why do they even sell a pro version if you cant disable that shit

void dove
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because Microsoft marketing department have way too much sway :/

deep sapphire
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get fucked MS

void dove
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no, we want everything to be in O365, and users home experience to be the same as work, etc, etc

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fuck off

void dove
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thats where i force my machines to be Win10 only

deep sapphire
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haha

void dove
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can do it in the Windows udpates section somewhere

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i also set patch delays, build update delays

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so my machine is stable AF

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i never get a fcked windows update, as by the time my computer asks for it, its been pulled and fixed by MS

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they have released a few

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consequences of this rapid release schedule they moved to with win10

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the public are the beta testers

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no thankyou 😛

deep sapphire
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I get a lot of flack for this but

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Windows 8.1 was my favorite OS

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it was so stable and smooth

paper tusk
livid dune
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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deep sapphire
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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celest violet
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Works for win 11 as well

celest violet
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11 is meh imo

livid dune
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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fair parcel
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2 for 1 pogg

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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royal forge
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Ooo cute

hard drift
sly elk
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you have to pay another $150 for Windows 11 Pro for workstations

glossy timber
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faux pro

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praux, if you will

umbral moss
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to be fair, that's because the average person isn't actually a "pro" and doesn't need any of the features an enterprise license offers lmao

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half the stuff goes totally unusesd

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if the consumer "pro" version let you lock out updates it would basically just end up in the same situation windows 7 did, where users didn't update for 10 years and then throw a shocked pikachu face when their shit gets hacked

deep sapphire
cerulean talon
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Pro is mostly the ability to join a domain.

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Pro WS is "MEGA RAM"

glossy ravine
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Is the Ultra version of the Samsung Galaxy S23 worth the extra 200 USD?

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I'm debating on if I should get the +, or go all out for the ultra™

dull garnet
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get an iphone

glossy ravine
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Apple.

playdead

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  1. I'm already in the Android ecosystem quite deeply.

  2. I don't like Apple.

sly walrus
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put it to you this way

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don't get a samsung

dull garnet
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^

modest moss
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probably get better value out of something like a pixel 7

dull garnet
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6a

modest moss
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7a is out very soon, could wait on reviews/offers on that

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uh, 7a UK price is apparently 499

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but you can get a 7 for less than that

sly elk
sly elk
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the dilemma i'd have, is what else is there? you can get a samsung, a pixel, maybe a cool niche phone if it exists, or a phone from some random chinese OEM that is all probably the same company.

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and aside from the ROG phone, most of the niche phones are just chinese OEM phones with different software

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like the XDA phone

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i suppose there's the fairphone and the nothing phone

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and ever since the huwaei partnership (I know it ended) I don't think google's made a good phone

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at least pixels are cheap!

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i'd say never buyt a samsung for msrp

modern iris
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anybody know a cheap board that will work with ddr4 2400 mhz, gtx 1060 6gb and ryzen 5 3600x?

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wanna rebuild the pc i slapped together for my dad

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i dont wanna have to buy another b450 gigabyte ds3h, as theyve gone up in price

modern iris
celest violet
#

My only beef with samsung is the screen protectors offered for them by major retailers are worse than the apple ones imo

#

Basically stickers

sly elk
#

tried out that 85mm lens

#

it's definitely a trip! It's like a focus monster lol

glossy ravine
#

Its probably my carrier but.

They really put a 200 dollar difference in price between the 256/512 GB S23s.

#

Oh and I tripped and got the Ultra. I guess.

sly elk
#

imho the problem is that the proprietary bullshit apple pulls, is aspirational for the CEOs of their competitors, so everything's laden with the same kinda "ecosystem" traps now

glossy ravine
sly elk
#

i liked when the mp3/aac stores were widespread and you could just buy your music for 99 cents that played on any damn thing

glossy ravine
#

And it just. Worked.

sly elk
#

i'm still kinda amazed how hard the music studios yanked control back via spotify

#

and now we've got these stupid streaming services

glossy ravine
#

Subscriptions.

#

Because they can milk more money that way than a dry 1 and done.

sly elk
#

yea I could rant for days about iCloud's shitty storage system

#

it's SHIT

#

shit!

#

onedrive isn't all that much better and ironically using onedrive on windows is a buggy annoying experience

#

but it's cheaper >>

#

or at least, it's easier to qualify for a lower price on it hahah

glossy ravine
#

There isnt much difference between clouds and fog.

I think Apple got the latter

#

Oh and another reason I opted for the Ultra is the 5k mah battery

#

And like the thing is.

Pulling things like the headphone jack away is scary.

Because when one big company does it and doesn't get significant enough backlash for it. It sets a precedent for others to follow.

See: Sony raising PlayStation 5 games to 70 USD.

sly elk
#

for reals lol

#

dude I know i'm not the first person to say this but wtf is with jalopnik

#

that site has been pushing them REALLY hard lately

#

the first comment is from the dude who the story is about though

#

Since I no longer needed a hatch, I got a Tesla Model 3 RWD. If I still had dogs, it would have been a Model Y.

astral ridge
#

jalopnik died some years ago

dusty mortar
#

Wtf is Bixby

hard drift
sharp star
#

tl;dw there are way better air coolers than a fucking Noctua, some at 120mm even

sly elk
#

but I will also present a counter to that

#

it's your computer, if you want to buy something that isn't the best bang for the buck because you like it, why not? 😄

#

I think there's a toxic form of elitism in the pc building community about that

#

like there are people who will go shit on someone's build because it's too nice

#

i wanna say no other community does that but I know guitar nerds do it

#

( /r/guitarcirclejerk likes to make fun of people who buy gibsons and PRS core stuff)

#

in both cases the point is valid hahah.

#

13900k and a 4090 with a fancy custom loop is gonna play games the same as a 13900k and 4090 with the cheapest good enough heatsink on aliexpress

wraith agate
#

Apple software

wraith agate
#

Plus Noctua sounds kinda cool

sharp star
#

Noctua is "good" but not at that price point

wraith agate
#

Oh? I'm all ears

sharp star
#

The NH-D15 is an old-ass cooler with a successor that's been delayed multiple times

#

Since then there have been cheaper and more effective CPU coolers than Noctua's offerings such as the Thermalright Peerless Assassin and the Deepcool AK620

#

Noctua delayed the NH-D15 successor to Q1 2023. It is now two months into Q2 2023.

#

So Noctua is getting buried here.

wraith agate
#

Oof

sharp star
#

Oh and liquid options are more appealing at the same price point

wraith agate
#

Maybe by the time I get to build my new PC, perhaps it will be released?

sharp star
#

not gonna hold my breath

wraith agate
#

I'm still planning on a deepcool AK620

sharp star
#

if you do get a new gaming PC and you need an aftermarket air cooler I suggest those two

#

Yeah

wraith agate
#

I don't even know what's my current cooler

#

It is air cooler and apparently some esports brand

#

What I know is it works

#

And it works well

#

My PC never thermalthrottles

#

...well not under normal load

sharp star
#

You can find the Peerless Assassin for around $35-41 equivalent depending on where you look

wraith agate
#

I'll probably buy it on Amazon.de since for the better part it is cheaper than local and thanks to EU laws, they deliver it to me without any extra fees (asides from shipping ofc)

#

I don't really want a case with side glass since I'm not picking parts based on looks, I definitely don't want clown vomit to be displayed so honestly I care more about efficiency than visuals

sharp star
#

I usually turn those off

wraith agate
#

I meant the base color

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I'm willing to buy white components if they're cheaper, or yellow or blue whatever.

#

And definitely ain't buying RGB comps. I can understand keyboard and mouse but I don't want my PC to be a fucking lightshow

sharp star
#

just about every motherboard and GPU will come with RGB; RAM there's non-RGB options

wraith agate
#

That's true

#

But it could be worse

sharp star
#

just open OpenRGB and then turn them all off

wraith agate
#

RGB fans, RGB AIO cooler with LED display and even RGB NVME

sharp star
#

If you can't turn off some of them then you have to go into BIOS level

wraith agate
#

I might literally buy an early 2000s PC case

#

Well probably not

#

Cooling ain't that efficient in it

sharp star
#

yeah nah

#

get a nice airflow case

wraith agate
#

But I want a PC with mesh front for sure and if possible, no glass side panels

sharp star
#

don't get those choked off ones

wraith agate
#

My current one is a scuffed one

#

Sharkoon with tempered side and front glass

sharp star
#

I know someone here hates on Fractal a lot but at least they offer both solid and glass panel options for their cases

wraith agate
#

Hmm

#

Fractal sounds good tbh, I mean, I heard about them

sharp star
#

The Pop Air is good

wraith agate
#

I really like the torrent design tbh

sharp star
#

I went for the full size Torrent

modern iris
#

just got a 2 pack of 16gb g.skill 3600 cl 16 😄

wraith agate
#

I might pick up E-ATX Torrent from Amazon

#

It's nearly 200 EUR

modern iris
#

what is that?

wraith agate
#

But it looks so good

#

PC case

modern iris
#

ah

#

i have asus tuff

#

it was like 80 bucks

#

i took out the rgb switch and disconnected the flashy lights lol

wraith agate
#

Yeah this one is a tad more expensive

modern iris
#

i got a deal on it, woulda been like 100

wraith agate
#

Still half as much as this case

#

188€ and not including shipping fees

modern iris
#

is torrent the brand?

wraith agate
#

No, Fractal

modern iris
#

googling it

#

where does the power suppply mount??

#

on top?

wraith agate
#

Bottom iirc

#

Ah no

#

Top mounted

modern iris
#

all the ones im looking at its on top

#

ye

#

come with rgb?

#

wonder how the fans being on bottom would work

wraith agate
#

I don't really care about RGB

modern iris
#

couple massive front fans

wraith agate
#

Yeah 180mm

modern iris
#

can you put aio anywhere bottom front or rear?

#

no not rear, cuz card goes there

#

nice case tho

#

hope you got like a 4090 to compliment it

wraith agate
#

I plan on Air cooling it

#

And yes, I'm planning on getting a 4090

modern iris
#

id have to sell a kidney for that haha

#

theres mine

#

i took that fucking velcro strap off, and it comes with a headphone clip which is pretty handy, took the rgb out

wraith agate
#

Sad

#

The velcro looks cool

modern iris
#

i mean its ok, its just a carry handle

#

but i like my stuff to be barebones

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

(although idk if I'd trust one for longer than 5 years anyway)

sly elk
#

I expect their other cases have build quality similar to their price point lol

#

(this was one nice thing about frys electronics, still a nice thing about microcenter)

#

i do like how a lot of their cases still have 5.25" bays and they at least look nice

#

i've always heard good things about the meshify and torrent and now the north is super popular

royal forge
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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deep sapphire
livid dune
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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paper tusk
#

ugh fucking things suck (I'm 80% sure I need to rma my 3060 but I can't be 100% sure it's at fault for horizontal flashing lines. nothing happens in bios, nothing if I try connecting to laptop or my switch, and currently no lines idling)

livid dune
#

🥵

paper tusk
#

(used ddu, reinstalled drivers, downgraded drivers, reinstalled windows, etc)

deep sapphire
livid dune
sly elk
#

i wonder how a 7900x compares to a 13900k in terms of thermals

#

or a 13700k lol

deep sapphire
#

It’s really thick lmao

#

I guess they did it for cooler compatibility but I don’t think that was a wise trade off

sly elk
#

That sucks

#

I want some more power but I don't want more heat lol

real edge
#

what do you have now

#

the 7900x is kinda bad

#

the 7700x/7800x3d/7950x are better depending on your use case

#

or the 13700k if you want to stick with intel

#

AM5 is still in its infancy

sharp star
#

Just don’t buy an Asus board

lost python
#

I mean, it's not like you can effectively cool the Intel ones anyway

#

And the bigger difference are actually the 120 vs 300 watt of power consumption

deep sapphire
#

Every test conducted is at all core synthetic benchmarks lol

#

In average cases it’s perfectly reasonable

#

I really wish people would stop peddling this nonsense

lost python
#

"it's less during gaming" is such a non argument though because there is absolutely nothing guaranteeing you that certain games or future games won't push it that high

#

And even then 200w during gaming is way too hungry

deep sapphire
#

Games have and never will push 24 cores at 100 percent they can’t even do 4 cores

#

AMD is more efficient but to act like Intel is impossible to cool is just silly

#

Debauer even interviewed a thermal engineer at Intel

lost python
#

Ofc they can do more than 4 cores these days

#

Also this is only speaking strictly about gaming where obviously the load will vary from game to game.
But start using the CPU for something else and you hit those thermal limits real quick with even higher energy consumption

#

And that's ass

deep sapphire
#

Gaming is and will always push single threaded workloads over multi core, you aren’t pushing 24 cores at 100 percent let alone any level that would make a CPU impossible to cool

#

I think I’ll take the opinion of an engineer that works in the industry than tech reviews

lost python
#

Because an Intel engineer is absolutely not biased

deep sapphire
#

Maybe watch the video? There’s nothing biased about this

lost python
#

Yeah gaming won't push it as hard as anything else but it still doesn't change the fact that they get hungry as fuck and hot as fuck with anything else that actually pushes the cpu

#

And the higher end models are even worse in that regard

deep sapphire
#

Synthetic benchmarks are stupid and shouldn’t indicate total system load

sharp star
#

maybe Intel should address that shitty ILM

deep sapphire
#

Remember when people used furmark to show GPU temps

lost python
#

An image rendering or video rendering are still very real scenarios

deep sapphire
#

And it started killing GPUs

real edge
#

I have a 5800x3d and it runs at 20-30w even when gaming, I still have not OC'd it ofc because I have no need for it to, but its nice to know that it will not blast my electricity bill no matter what I throw at it

deep sapphire
#

That whole 30 dollars you save over 5 years

real edge
#

when you earn 3000 a year that 30 dollars is more important, every cent matters

#

also 40c when gaming

#

can't get any more efficient than that

real edge
#

granted it only runs at 3.4GHz

#

but still

deep sapphire
#

so intel unlocked, yes it has more thermal runaway

#

but at set stages

#

its basically identical

#

obviously the X3D chips will run more efficient

real edge
deep sapphire
#

but my whole argument was average system loads, neither platform will reach this MASSIVE thermal bottleneck that just cant be cooled

real edge
#

yeah

#

I just wish limiting the watts of the CPU was more user friendly

deep sapphire
#

thats just a ridiculous notion that people constantly peddle on the internet because tech reviewers cant be bothered to do any integrity with its testing

real edge
#

turning off PBO in the bios is simple for AMD but can you turn off turbo and get far less watts on intel or

#

idk

deep sapphire
#

I'd rather just leave everything on auto and go on with my day

#

they have engineers that design things for specific reasons

#

I'll let them decide whats the best option for my application

sharp star
#

I will let Asus engineers decide how much voltage I need for my CPU

lost python
#

And then things happen like the engineers deciding they don't need to actually adjust the settings on your motherboard and fry your cpu

real edge
#

I do wish they let the engineers do their thing instead of forcing new platforms and forcing them to make new chips every year

#

I'd rather wait 2-3 years for an amazing chip

#

rather than get something new every year

deep sapphire
#

I mean you dont have to lol

real edge
#

just to meet stockholder stuff

deep sapphire
#

my 6700K worked fine for me, any modern CPU will last for several years

real edge
#

I mean from a design standpoint

deep sapphire
#

hell if anything im more worried about microsoft

real edge
#

make a new chip from scratch and make it take 3 years

deep sapphire
#

forcing people to adopt TPM 2.0 standards

lost python
#

Fuck Microsoft for that shit

deep sapphire
#

are they gonna make people have strict hardware requirements in the future?

real edge
#

microsoft sucks

#

windows sucks

sharp star
#

Xbox sucks

deep sapphire
#

sadly linux sucks more

real edge
#

can't even reinstall windows without wiping everything in your C drive lmao

deep sapphire
#

people seriously acted like he was the second coming of jesus

#

bro we'll just buy out abunch of game studios that'll fix xbox

#

o-oh the games arent very good?

lost python
#

He said a few words people wanted to hear, which is rare these days

deep sapphire
#

when game pass came out (and arguably now I guess) it was a damn good value

#

but MS has yet to deliver on anything industry changing and its getting old

lost python
#

It is and I would even sub to it if it was on steam

deep sapphire
#

like when 343 came out and basically said "we dont want to make halo anymore"

#

like wym that was the whole point of your studio

real edge
#

my parcel is in DPDs hands and they have 2stars on google, ohh no.... vierasip

lost python
#

Every delivery service sucks

#

So no worries about which one you get

deep sapphire
#

fedex will send your package to an entirely different country 8 times over

lost python
#

Oh i had that once but UPS

deep sapphire
#

UPS international shipping rates are insane

sharp star
lost python
#

Went to like 4 different states, sometimes even in the entirely wrong direction before finally getting flown over the pond

deep sapphire
#

my buddy in the UK wanted me to ship him a hockey jersey

#

I went to UPS they wanted 63 dollars

#

I went to the post office

#

12 bucks

#

🤣

real edge
deep sapphire
#

oh god

lost python
#

Why does griekenland sound so dutch

deep sapphire
#

which like sure that sounds cool

#

but like

#

thats also what got us the video game crash of 83

#

you have to set some standards here

#

maybe phil is just too nice

#

just shows up all chill

#

probably smoked some weed first

#

yeah dude that looks sick, alright man I'll check back in like 3 months or something if you need to delay it by a year thats cool just lmk my dude

real edge
#

I am excited to finally get the cable I need for a new GPU, with this pin connector I will not need to bother with shit adapters and I will be able to insert whatever I want in my system.

Provided the GPU holders work inside my reversed case...

#

most of them do, provided they are tall enough if they are sticks

#

or if they are brackets, fit inside my case and there is no weirdness with cables or shit

#

its a good case but man did it really have to be reversed

#

reverse means PSU and GPU are at the top

#

not bottom

deep sapphire
#

yeah I remember you showed me your case

real edge
#

the GPU does get far more cooling from the case fans with a configuration like that

#

which I guess is the point

#

was 19euro for shipping which is steep

#

but not that much more than corsair tried to charge with 15 euro from germany

#

this comes from china, they said they will take care of customs and duty

#

so hopefully no nice surprises

#

they said the order will take a month to process but it only took a week to process

#

not having the necessary PCIe cables ended up being a good thing in the end

#

cause now I will not have to mess with shit cheap adapters that can melt or shit

#

just a straight up cable

#

chose modflex because that means that I can bend the cable more(within reason)

#

just in case it needed to be bent

#

rather be safe than sorry

modern iris
#

Will this cable downscale to 1440p 75hz?

#

And is it backwards compatible with 2.0?

#

Is that something HDMI cables just do?

real edge
#

displayport cables are backwards compatible

#

not sure about hdmi, I never use it

deep sapphire
#

the only difference is bandwidth speed

#

higher versions have higher bandwidth, only really useful for like 4K 120hz or higher

restive bobcat
modern iris
#

Lmfao

umbral moss
# restive bobcat

I distinctly remember spending weeks with my dad trying to convince the jurassic park PC game to work on my piece of shit tandy lmao

#

the game demands 8MB and the PC only had 4 sad

restive bobcat
wraith agate
wraith agate
#

@cerulean talon you seem to be a storage nut, no offense

#

do you know anything about YUCUN?

cerulean talon
#

That being said, no, never heard of YUCUN.

royal forge
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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royal forge
cerulean talon
#

Sounds like one of the crazy chinese network file systems tbh.

royal forge
#

I see an amazon listin for a HDD of it

cerulean talon
#

I saw there was a SaaS listed for them as well.

wraith agate
cerulean talon
#

Looks like a standard SATA SSD.

#

I use team group for all my cheap ssds

#

They stand up to the abuse I send em

umbral moss
#

as far as I can tell team group is just quietly good

latent ore
deep sapphire
sly walrus
#

word

deep sapphire
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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sly elk
#

i like the teame emoji called 'oreo yum' lol

#

neat!

devout nexus
#

very cool

wraith agate
cerulean talon
#

Tbh, looks like the ratings/etc are fine for the Yucun, wouldn't trust it with anything important for the first week or two. I do love how the reviews are "It's stylish" as if I care what the SSD looks like in my case.

#

Huh. .de really doesn't have any cheap SSD's, wonder if the import costs are just that much higher.

dull garnet
#

tax is included in the prices here

#

here being europe <.<

cerulean talon
#

Tax on that is like 2-3$ US for me. :p

dull garnet
sly elk
#

AHHHH

#

you don't do that

#

you pour that back into the bottle using a funnel

#

then you put it in the corner of the garage and forget to drop it off for years

#

fact: I still have all the oil that has ever been in my jeep's engine

cerulean talon
#

ohgod No just take it for recycling plz.

#

We use 5 gallon water jugs >.>

dull garnet
#

drink it

sly elk
#

lol get an oil burning heater

wraith agate
cerulean talon
#

The 2 pack isn't /awful/ but still expensive.

paper tusk
#

(re: flashing lines) guess I found the windows bugs with hdr (changed ports on tv and it's fixed at the cost of no hdr)

#

thanks microsoft

autumn beacon
#

Mkay so, I wanna get new earbuds

#

I'm not sure what ones I wanna get. I wanna get ones that are like, compact, loud, and are just comfortable

#

I've seen a lot of Ads about Raycon

#

My mom has JBLs

#

I saw a Razer Hammerhead and that looked really nice

deep sapphire
#

AirPods Pro 2

autumn beacon
#

Dont have iPhone

modest moss
#

pretty sure they're just bluetooth earbuds that don't require iphone

autumn beacon
#

Unless it says it I'm passing on them

deep sapphire
#

you can use it on anything

#

but you do lose some tight integration features

#

you can also get the galaxy buds

#

I've heard good things

modest moss
#

I guess a lot depends on your budget

#

if you're looking cheap, Anker do some ok ones

minor hollow
#

Dont get raycons

#

Whats your price range

#

I have galaxy buds pro, theyre good

autumn beacon
#

150 max@minor hollow

minor hollow
#

Galaxy buds should be in that range

#

I had those before the buds pro, no complaints

#

I have a cheap chinese brand i use too, though i can't look up until i get home

#

Serviceable but definitely a step down

#

I also got skullcandy earbuds as a gift for a coworker before

#

They said they work well and i see them use it

autumn beacon
#

Ah

minor hollow
#

I had a good JBL wired bluetooth (not true earbuds they had a wire connecting) that worked quite well in the past as well

#

All of these i have considered worth the money

autumn beacon
#

Also,

#

Battery life Trumps most stuff

minor hollow
#

Earbuds by definition wont have fantastic battery life

autumn beacon
#

6+ hours

minor hollow
#

My buds pro gives me about 5 hours but the case also charges

autumn beacon
#

And you can't say "Earbuds can't do that" because I have had many that can go 8+ hours per bud lol

minor hollow
#

So with one charge you realistically have like 15h, enough to get through the day

#

Depends on the usage and features

#

8h of constant music?

autumn beacon
#

Yea, soundcore

minor hollow
#

Without recharging in the case?

autumn beacon
#

Mhm

#

Like. Im using Soundcore Dot 2 rn

minor hollow
#

Ive had anker in the past, but not for buds

autumn beacon
#

I put them in at 3:00

#

It's 8

#

There at 50%

minor hollow
#

Do they do noise cancelling?

#

Or the function where they amplify outside sound so you arent completely oblivious to the environment?

autumn beacon
#

I don't want ones that are saying "battery low" 4 hours in

modest moss
#

rtings have a bunch of earbuds comparisons, take a look there and find features that suit your needs

autumn beacon
#

I...can't read that graph X

#

D

#

Also

#

Like, all these buds seem like if I were to put them in my ear, I gotta like, DIG to get them out cause of how tiny they are

#

Either that, or they will extremely stretch out my earhols

#

Not really sure at all...

autumn beacon
wraith agate
cerulean talon
autumn beacon
#

Razer Hammerhead True Wireless (2nd Gen) Bluetooth Gaming Earbuds: Chroma RGB Lighting -60ms Low-Latency- Active Noise Cancellation - Dual Environmental Noise Cancelling Microphones- Classic Black https://a.co/d/bFnkVls

#

These are ones that I found that look nice

wraith agate
cerulean talon
#

Yeah, on the US site, that's 2x1TB

#

Not 2x512

wraith agate
#

Also ffs

#

I wish I could limit to show me only the items that get shipped to my country

cerulean talon
#

😦

wraith agate
cerulean talon
#

That's... annoying.

wraith agate
#

What on the

#

Ah yes, I'd like to buy things for the Holy See

#

The Holy See of Ishgard

sly elk
#

-looks at convo about wireless earbuds-

sly walrus
#

i can’t do earbuds

#

i keep thinking they’re gonna fall out

sly elk
#

tbh I think one thing that should heavily influence one's decision is what they intend to use the earbuds with

#

i don't remember if iphones support aptx type earbuds?

#

looks like the answer to that is no. So if you don't use earbuds with the apple h1 or h2 chip, you will not get the same sound quality.

sly elk
# autumn beacon Dont have iPhone

ahh this is an important detail, thanks for that. If you're not using an iphone, I believe the opposite is true. The H1/H2 headphones will not sound better on an android device.

#

but then you swap audio quality for convenience and/or quality and/or price range and/or whatever else lol

autumn beacon
#

Im looking for any headphones that just have long battery life and sound good

#

I tried out my mom's JBLs, there really nice

#

They have that Anker airpods have

#

She says there "Noise canceling" and I go "That's very vague" and she goes "What?"

wraith agate
#

Well

#

Noise canceling isn't very vague tbh

deep sapphire
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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deep sapphire
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meh

royal forge
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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amanagiel | https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1343043691972231168
royal forge
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Oo

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@deep sapphire look. Milk

deep sapphire
hard drift
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😒

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
hard drift
glossy ravine
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I now see the point of the Samsung Pen.

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It makes screenshot/picture editing significantly easier.

sly elk
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Samsung S-Pen**

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where the hell did i put mine anyway

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oh there it is, right next to my rocket pen

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i spend more time fidgeting with that pen than I do actually using it

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.. i wonder if it's a good pen to chew on

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oh he's from 86