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[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[sly elk]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[deep sapphire]

damn look at that RAY TRACING

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-okay-fine-alright-nervous-ray-romano-gif-15094117

[sly elk]

i like this

i wonder if anyone would see that and be like

i'll pay the $13 more

[deep sapphire]

wtf they have a 990?

[sly elk]

oh wait

i didn't notice the $13 more was a 990 lol

i wonder if the 990 has the same problems the 980 does

[deep sapphire]

SSD performance is becoming a bit ridiculous though

[sly elk]

if not, that's worth the $13 for sure

but for a tiny bit more you can get 2tb

and after the 980 firmware fiasco there's no reason i could ever consider spending that much to have a samsung

[sly elk]

yea that's the rub with all of this

$79.99 intel 670p, 2tb, dram, pcie3 and only QLC and not TLC, but hey

the cheapest pcie 4.0 is at least $110-120-ish

and hardly anyone will notice the difference probably lol

[real edge]

PCIE GEN 5 2000GB/S TRANSFER SPEED THAT NOBODY ASKED FOR OR NEEDED

[sly elk]

-dances at his desk-

[real edge]

I just want an SSD that never dies

can we get that instead of huge transfer speeds

thanks

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/12e3g7f/dont_see_this_every_day/

i think @deep sapphire will dig that pic 😄

[sly elk]

SLC SSDs are about as close as you can get i think

[real edge]

how much do they cost?

[sly elk]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/delkin-devices-inc/MB64TRDF5-42000-D/13880135

$712 for a 64gb lol

that's strange

intel used to sell SLC SSDs

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234803497558

[real edge]

wtf

:x

[real edge]

optane?

[sharp star]

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/06/washington-apple-store-theft/

[austere socket]

finally, some positive news

omg the way they did it is some oceans 11 jazz

[golden stream]

Speaking of iphone, what's the cheapest of the current gen?
idk may trying out le vtoobing kekw

Ya iirc the L2D using iphone (more like the FaceID) for face tracking

Half body tracking.......idk...

Shylily's tracking and how she (ab)uses it are p impressive w all of the boingboing

[austere socket]

https://twitter.com/shylilytwitch/status/1642830687941148672

Shylily (@shylilytwitch)

wait for it 😂

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advanced tech right here

[uncut cape]

My PC is making weird noises, any idea what might be causing this

No download is happening and the sound is different when something is being downloaded

[umbral moss]

not going to happen just by the nature of how SSDs register data

SSDs also die if you leave them unplugged for too long, you need the bias voltage to keep the storage condition state

[kindred brook]

MSI trying to recruit me

seems like alot of work

I'm 100% WFH right now

at 60k lol

[river jasper]

@deep sapphire @sly elk Just to give you guys an update everything is working flawlessly

Front Panels work, LEDs work, GPU is firm in place, and I made triple sure that all of the cables are firm in place.

[graceful pine]

What’s the pay like

[kindred brook]

it says 70-80k

on the bottom line

I'm just going to do the interview

for practice lol

haven't done the interview in a while

if they offer me 80k I probably won't take it just to go back to the office

my job is SUPER EZ right now

rather take the 60k and WFH

then drive in california traffic

every morning and afternoon

wait

HAHAHA

this might be MSI

a granite company

https://www.msisurfaces.com/news/new-headquarters-orange-california/

[graceful pine]

lol

[kindred brook]

this is even more amazing

[golden stream]

LMFAO

The MSI not the MSI we know

[kindred brook]

It's funny because MSI the tech company is nearby

[uncut cape]

okay nevermind it's the fans, no doubt about it. I'm just wondering if it's safe for me to remove the GPU to only keep the big one above

[golden stream]

"Wait are you working at MSI? Can I RMA mah GPU?"
"Sorry we only accept tiles, if u want to RMA ur GPU pls go to this direction"

[kindred brook]

lmfoa

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/6vJG6hM.jpeg

guys

this is crucial

please go find a beaver and thank them for their service

[hard drift]

Already did

[wraith agate]

I will eat a beaver

[hard drift]

No

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[wraith agate]

Protect the trees, eat a beaver

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[hard drift]

fuck the trees

[wraith agate]

I mean if you insist

[hard drift]

[deep sapphire]

🤣

[wraith agate]

Bruh

FSR 2 dead on arrival?

[sharp star]

yeah lmao

the DLSS mod for RE Engine games just destroys the official FSR implementation even

or even the official DLSS implementation in MHR

[lost python]

performance mode

lol

might as well post the other slides too which arent as devastating

[wide hill]

ngl, that is a very, uh, biased chart

[wraith agate]

How?

[livid dune]

god damn 🥵

[wide hill]

boolean chart, "it is better or not".

ofcourse one thing can be better, but the chart doesn't show how bad FSR is.

[wraith agate]

Hmm... dunno what else could they use

[wide hill]

what is "better"?

are they using FPS and Resolution?

[wraith agate]

Probably higher fps?

[wide hill]

so, you don't really know.

it is a chart that says "this is better" but no point of data.

[wraith agate]

I see

[wide hill]

ofcourse, it is probably taken from a video, but the chart itself 🥴

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/1WM_w7TBbj0?t=1553

here watch the video

[real edge]

I have a 1070 and I do not even need performance mode at 1440p

quality is enough

not sure who would use it

[deep sapphire]

AMD worse AI upscaling, worse ray tracing, worse drivers and only 100 dollars less

[hard drift]

the main downside to dlss is that it requires dedicated hardware for it, FSR works on all gpus within a pretty substantial few gens

[deep sapphire]

is it really the value option here

[deep sapphire]

works on 94 percent of the GPUs sold on the market

[hard drift]

for fsr yeah

[real edge]

and that is the neat part, it works on most GPUs that are modern

FSR

it gives old gpus a new lease on life on modern games

[hard drift]

yeah, where dlss kills old gpus before 20 series

[real edge]

DLSS will always be better than FSR

cause it requires dedicated hardware inside a GPU

FSR needs nothing

[hard drift]

once FSR comes out with a hardware reliance requirement it'll likely be better

i know there's talk about fsr3 potentially working on even older stuff despite the frame generation thing

[real edge]

nobody is saying that FSR is better, but FSR being so widely accessible is a great thing

DLSS can keep its superior quality for NVIDIA GPUs

[hard drift]

can't wait for dlss 4 to kill support for 40 series

[real edge]

but all I know is this

my 1070 can keep going for longer now in modern games thanks to the tech

[hard drift]

and since it's open source you can mod it into games

[real edge]

which means I do not have to make some bad decision purchasing a super expensive GPU and I can afford to wait for better prices

RE4R on high with 50-60fps on a 7year old GPU

[real edge]

tbf you can do that for dlss too

there are mods that add it to games

[hard drift]

but it isn't anywhere near as easy

[lost python]

the video shows it and it many many cases its that AMD has worse artifacting/flimmering with patterns, fences, grids etc especially at an angle
that seems to be the biggest flaw, while most other things are barely different and/or barely noticeable
but he also talks about bad ghosting with dlss but criticizes that its not worse than flimmering

realistically its like FSR is 1-2 major versions behind DLSS depending on which version is implemented into a game

[real edge]

dlss was also behind a lot in comparisons

the latest dlss version is 3.11 or something

you can put it in through dlss replacing tbh

[lost python]

the dead space ghosting

[real edge]

I wonder what DLSS 4/FSR 4 will even be

[hard drift]

hopefully something actually worth it

[lost python]

time for FSR 3 first

[hard drift]

FSR3 will probably be shit just like dlss3

[umbral moss]

TXAA all over again

[real edge]

frame gen is interesting but it just increases latency too much

[umbral moss]

it's faster, but generally worse than MSAA or SSAA

[lost python]

but remember, with nvidia you pay the premium for having the card kill itself or spontaneously combust.

[umbral moss]

especially fine patterns like chain link fence tetxures

[umbral moss]

but it's faster until it dies

[lost python]

actually accurate. the image is like TAA/TXAA

[real edge]

my 1070 is still alive and kicking after 7 years

[umbral moss]

when you said it struggled with high moire textures I knew exactly what it looked like and AMD also struggled with TXAA back in the day

[hard drift]

not to mention nvidia keeps shitting on their AIBs so the AIBs are eventually going to demand better treatment

[real edge]

do new cards have more problems?

[umbral moss]

for the same reason, their algorithm uses a faster, less precise calculation that cheats performance for good enough image quality

wow, it's magic, it works on old hardware

nobody ever stopped to wonder why that is

[real edge]

I am glad it works at least

Otherwise I would have had worse fps

[umbral moss]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

lots of things work, just a matter of what you're willing to trade

[lost python]

looks good enough in most games i have used it in to not be terrible during actual gameplay

just sucks if you really pay attention to the details

[real edge]

the thing fsr struggled with

in RE4R was water'

damn that thing in some specific areas has so much ghosting you wonder if there is something fucky with the GPU

thankfully the water section is very short

[deep sapphire]

smoke em if you got em

[hard drift]

Smh

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

[real edge]

the reason why I recommend AMD gpus to folks that come here asking for advice is because they are great for their price point as of right now, if that changes I will change my recommendation, I am not a fanboy, I am simply following what I think is right for the circumstances, whether it is budget or vram or power

[hard drift]

Smh

[sly elk]

Yea I am not a fanboy of any hardware platform

[umbral moss]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/

based

good thing every new car has incredibly invasive telemetry and camera systems on it

[kindred brook]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-he-is-already-dead-stop-gif-5552043

[sly elk]

if you didn't already have an excuse to not buy a car that looks like a loaf of bread, there ya go

[umbral moss]

I would prefer my car to be dumber than a mister universe contestant, thanks

the smartest thing about my car should be recognizing there's a key in the ignition cylinder

[sly elk]

same but i still haven't bothered to yank the modem out of my jeep's radio

too lazy

[umbral moss]

knowing chrysler they're using the modem as a ground sink for the fuse box, so if you yank it the entire frame goes live

[sly elk]

LOL

nah

[dreamy chasm]

Are the 5700xt/6600xt comparable cards?

looking at used listings for both

[sly elk]

i don't recommend buying a 5700xt because those were almost certainly used for mining

also older drivers, less reliable drivers probably

(and I say that when I admit, the 5700xt I had was very reliable and I only had 1 software issue with it)

[uneven spade]

You were certainly lucky with your 5700XT

almost every 5700xt owner I know of happened to sell their card and bought ampere or rdna2 instead

as rdna1 was horribly unstable for most users

bugged display engine (hardware bugs, cannot be fixed by drivers), very sensitive to power and requires literally perfect XMP profiles

[uneven spade]

the 6600xt is a bit faster but it has support for newer APIs (DX12_2) and is much more stable overall.

I would def pick that one instead

[modest moss]

if you play FFXIV I wouldn't recommend a 5000 series AMD GPU, even though the issues seem to have eased off

[lime wasp]

So question;

Would you rather pay $225 for an ITX motherboard?

Or use an MATX Motherboard for $265 with it's better connections and slots?

[uneven spade]

The issues weren't really fully fixed but mitigated. but still, can't really suggest RDNA 1 at all unless the price is extremely attractive.

[real edge]

what kind of matx board costs 260$

[lime wasp]

The one from ASUS

It's normally only $200 but its only sold by 3rd Parties at this point so.....

[uncut cape]

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

I figured out why my PC was making a weird snoring noise

It was the fucking power supply being on eco mode

Well thank god now I can concentrate

[sly elk]

LOL

[lime wasp]

Question:

The way this guy installed those two bottom fans - does this actually work fine or is it too close the GPU fan will cause cooling issues?

[dull garnet]

Waste of fans/10

[uncut cape]

nevermind

there'S s still a snoring noise coming from the power supply

at least I know what'S faulty

[dull garnet]

what brand

[celest violet]

Yeah AMD is the goat for not charging more for less vram, and the prices are decent

[dull garnet]

shame about everything else

[celest violet]

I disagree. People talk about drivers but they are not that bad anymore

Such drag from previous generations

Adrenaline shits on control panel

Better aib at this point

[lime wasp]

The question is though; do you want to do VR?

Because then AMD isn't even an option really.

[celest violet]

VR games kinda feel more like a niche party trick then anything

There aren't many super fun vr games imo

That are like good length with lots of content

[lime wasp]

Pavlov

The Bethesda VR games

Hell I want to get VR just to play Skyrim/FO4 VR

Someone made a mod that let's you interact with still living actors

So you can legit just grab folks by throat the toss'em around

Or do the Hulk -> Loki smash on'em

[uncut cape]

EVGA 850W B5 series PSU

[potent arrow]

Lmfao I've actually built two systems for folks solely for vrchat

But mmm yeah there arnt many VR games as is

[uneven spade]

I mean, I do disagree on this one. AMD drivers has gotten a whole lot more stable as of recent years and same goes for their newer cards

while RDNA 1 and Vega were a disaster

RDNA 2 is fine, same goes to RDNA 3 (if you don't look at RDNA 3's idle power usage lul)

[uneven spade]

its more specific gens which NVIDIA is also guilty of

kepler became useless in just 2 years

fermi was well known to overheat like mad

[uneven spade]

the GPU sag that will happen with this one...

[celest violet]

Vr chat is wild as hell but not much of a game lmao

Skyrim vr would be cool if it wasn't released a thousand times on every plat

[uneven spade]

HLA is the true killer app of VR

[lime wasp]

He put a support brace under it at the end

[celest violet]

I don't even think vega was that bad, I ran a radeon vii before my 3080

[uneven spade]

had a Vega 56 earlier, horrible experience

[celest violet]

My rad vii was great, my gf is still using it

I think vega 56 had a bad bios?

That was a bit ago in time I don't remember the best

[uneven spade]

tried updating its VBIOS, used different drivers. nothing helped

RMA'd it and got a 1070 instead tbh

[celest violet]

Tough

Vega was a rough moment, but I liked mine

I originally wanted to run two vega 64s in crossfire before getting the vii

[uneven spade]

then upgraded to the 3080 10gb at its launch (paid msrp lmao) and pretty much using it to this day

I probably might stick with nvidia for the next gen as I depend on CUDA these days

for work reasons

[celest violet]

I've got a 10gb 3080 as well, but I'm not a fan of it

This is gonna sound like a dumb reason but I had to turn graphics setting down went I went from 16gbs to 10

That and it's also got a shitty aio that's annoying

[uneven spade]

pretty happy with the card and didn't run much into VRAM limitations but I game at 1440p (no uw 1440p or 4k) so perhaps that's why

however, I did plan on a 6800xt at the time but the problem was actually getting one

stock of AMD cards is far more annoying to deal with in my region

hopefully RTX 50 cards will have proper VRAM capacity to work with as the 40 series looks like a complete meme (apart from the 4090)

[celest violet]

I kinda want to get a 6800xt for the meme of the yeston waifu back plate

Peak

[uneven spade]

there is also this thing

https://cdn.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/3-28.jpg

[celest violet]

Oh yeah wasn't that a 900 series card

[uneven spade]

rx580

[celest violet]

Damn, I should convince someone to trade my old msi 580 for that lmao

I do think whenever I upgrade (probably around rtx 60 series cause I'm a broke college student now) imma go with radeon

Always just had better experiences with them

[uneven spade]

if CUDA wasn't a factor to me, I would just go with the best offering for my money in terms of stability and performance

[celest violet]

Working retail is nice cause I get discounts on most pc parts, just not cpus or gpus unfortunately

[uneven spade]

neither AMD or NVIDIA give a damn about the consumers. just pick the option that makes most sense for you and your needs

[celest violet]

Yeah thats probably my reasoning is because I had more stability with amd personally

And having more vram is typically nice

[deep sapphire]

nvidia cares about the consumer

you can spend more time gaming and less time running DDU with 8 different drivers until you find one that doesnt crash playing monster hunter

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-sarcastic-smile-king-gif-15896630

nvidia with the funky closed source linux drivers and the random "bad update" and the 20 year old control panel? the nvidia that keeps jacking prices up and sold a ton of gpus direct to miners? ahh man

can't say AMD is any better though

that company is opportunistic when they can get away with it

[deep sapphire]

the only thing nvidia can be shit on for is its bullshit price adjustment

but stability, performance and features all go to nvidia

if each brand had the same price with similar raster performance I would still go with nvidia

[sly elk]

i don't think I feel that way about any brand

[deep sapphire]

AMD needs to get its head out of its ass and actually invest in the brand instead of giving it second hand TSMC stock and doubling the shader core count calling it a day

[sly elk]

it is nice that intel invests a lot into foundries and stuff

[deep sapphire]

the 6000 series was arguably the best AMD has ever been in years and yet they only lost marketshare

what logic is that

yeah I hope intel can catch up

we really need a 3rd player

[lost python]

idk at least with AMD i dont see cards catching fire every gen

[sly elk]

LOL

that seems to be more of an AIB problem than anything

[lost python]

and yet it weirdly only happens to nvidia

[deep sapphire]

that was from the power connector being funky

its a bitch to insert

[sly elk]

-fondly remembers the issue with evga 30 series cards blowing up-

-and evga 10 series cards blowing up-

[deep sapphire]

my evga 1070 blew up because they forgot to put VRM thermal pads on

[sly elk]

THAT

I remember that

[deep sapphire]

they even charged me for shipping

like :\

[sly elk]

good ole evga

they also used to be the #1 brand of "Press F for my video card. It lived a long hard life. RIP." On /r/pcmasterrace

[deep sapphire]

the replacement was fine though, I still have the card and its worked fine since I dunno 2016 or 2017 cant remember the year it blew up

[sly elk]

and like

whenever the subject of which brand to buy came up

there was always someone who'd talk about how great evga was

because they had to RMA their evga card

[deep sapphire]

evga awhile back had a really generous warranty package

[sly elk]

usually their gen n card blew up and they'd get a gen n+1 replacement

thus the reputation

[deep sapphire]

but as the years progressed that kept getting worse and worse

my 580s had a lifetime warranty

[sly elk]

yea that makes sense

[deep sapphire]

then it was 5 years for the 700 series

then 3 years

[sly elk]

you can only make so much money off doing that

at some point they switch to META

[deep sapphire]

but they had US tech support which was nice

[sly elk]

send twitch streamers lots of free gear

and fuck everyone else over

[deep sapphire]

LOL

[sly elk]

it's like buying TOMS shoes

except instead of sending a free pair to some poor kid in africa

they send a free product to some twitch streamer

one thing I've been wondering lately

is if noctua & fractal design have the same marketing strategy for extended warranties as secretlab does

secretlab == you get a like 3 year warranty extension for free if you post on reddit about your chair and email them a link of the post

[sly elk]

fractal/noctua must == you get a warranty extension for making a snarky post about your not-RGB build on /r/battlestations

[lost python]

wasnt the primary reason because of that EVGA stepup programme, where you could upgrade to a new card and only pay the difference of your current EVGA to the new gen?

[deep sapphire]

that was also nice

[sly elk]

I never understood that program

[deep sapphire]

me neither, it was a huge loss for the company lmao

[lost python]

its like with phones, where carriers give you the option to upgrade every year

[deep sapphire]

microcenter does something similar

if you buy their warranty

you can RMA it with the store for any reason

and get all your money back

[lost python]

within a certain time period or ever?

[deep sapphire]

so if 3 years later new nvidia card comes out, just say the card doesnt work they dont even ask

get your 1600 bucks back

buy new card

rinse and repeat

[sly elk]

no i mean

evga's step-up wasn't like, for the life of the card, at least not lately

[deep sapphire]

they probably stopped doing it because of the constant issues with miners

[sly elk]

i think when you bought a card direct from evga

[lost python]

iirc it used to be that it had to be the current gen card that you want to upgrade to the next gen

but it had to be EVGA ye

[sly elk]

you got 90 days to either buy the extended warranty, or do a step-up

but they would get you both ways

1. you had to pay MSRP for the new card, 2. they only credited you what you paid for the old card

the extended warranty was expensive AF for 30 series cards

[lost python]

ah well never really bought EVGA anyway, because i always found their coolers to be bad and the actually good cards where so overpriced

[sly elk]

https://www.evga.com/support/stepup/

[modest moss]

@tame fulcrum single handedly destroyed the EVGA GPU division anyway

[deep sapphire]

Ikr

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[lime wasp]

So....would the 140mm AIO in the H1 V2 be enough for a 7700x? If I replaced the fan with something more powerful like the Noctua 140mm?

[sly elk]

yeehaw

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/04/google-is-bricking-dropcams-and-nest-secure-offers-discounts-to-upgraders

[deep sapphire]

!hank

[opal panther]

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[dreamy chasm]

6600's only about a bit more expensive it looks like

[real edge]

the 6650xt is the same price as the 6600xt here in my country

about 280euro

[sly elk]

I developed a seething hatred for nest products a couple years ago

it's such a bad platform

but there are some upsides to it

for one: the service is on the cheap side. $12/mo for 30 days of 24/7 recording from an entity that does have decent security.

for another, the cameras are well built (even at twice the cost of the alternatives), they have a decent mobile app with well-written english, they have a website you can view and control your cameras at

but if you try to load the nest app on firefox or an iOS device, it is SLOW AS FUCK

like oh my gosh it's so slow

and the platform is terrible for continuous monitoring on a tv/monitor

there's no way to monitor locally so you have a long delay because of the round trip for the video to travel

and if you leave the browser logged in for long enough the app will kick you out and make you sign back in

did I mention the process to change wifi networks on a nest cam? HA

you basically have to factory reset the camera, scan the barcode on the back of the camera in the app to re-add it, etc

also (at least the older cams) they don't do things like Power-over-Ethernet and the nest outdoor cams have a comically large connector on a long cable that is permanently attached to the cam

but virtually all security cam solutions are AWFUL

I loved how eufy was sold as a high-security apple homekit encrypted video thing and then boom it turns out their security is shiiiit

sorry for the long rant lol

my favorite cameras are the onvif-compatible rtsp streaming kind

sadly I think those are almost all considered unsafe to put on a network because they're made by sketchy companies in china

yeaaa

there may be some other ubiquiti alternatives, but it's pretty much what I' figure I'll eventually have to switch to

but unifi protect is.. basically locally hosted nest cloud

their cameras are not particularly cheap

and iirc there's a monthly service fee too....

tp-link

oh

there is no monthly fee for unifi protect

good.

your other alternative is to just use amcrest/dahua or hikvision or some other random chinese crap and just put it on an isolated network

(amcrest is funny, i think amcrest itself is american but they just buy dahua cameras and slap their logo on them)

i suspect lorex is also an american brand selling chinese cameras

heh oh yea

https://www.dahuasecurity.com/newsEvents/pressRelease/7717

dahua straight up owned lorex lol

https://learncctv.com/dahua-oem-list-updated/

i also.. i like my ubiuqiti hardware

one of my wifi APs went through a fit of instability but a software update seems to have fixed that for good

and aside from that the stuff has just worked and worked

[graceful pine]

I just use an office chair lol

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/12eybmt/my_friend_asked_me_to_post_his_juice_themed/

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/-aMiEszQBik anyway who remembers 3dfx

[sly elk]

voodoooooooo

and he actually doesn't look "concerned" in that thumbnail wow

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

鈴崎 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92510405

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/43054314

[wraith agate]

apparently a tryhard... makes sense

[uneven spade]

I would simply pick this one instead if the price gap between the two isn't all that large.

[golden stream]

Do we have any news about AM5 APU yet?

[dreamy chasm]

Turns out the xt's are sold out 🥴

So it's either 6600 non xt's or 5700xts at the same price

[paper tusk]

seems like they are limited to laptop sku's for now (and in extra confusing model number because of mixing of zen versions with rdna2)

desktop apu's I don't know anything about

[dreamy chasm]

They might be waiting for old apu stock to run out before they release am5 apus

[paper tusk]

(on the note of laptops I'm trying to decide between one with a 3050 ti and half assed battery life, and an acer nitro with a 3060 which will be a plugged in queen)

[dreamy chasm]

I haven't heard of good things from nitros

They were about as bottom barrel as you can get as far as gaming laptops go, when I was still kept up on tech

Maybe things have changed

[paper tusk]

the 2022 version has improved thermals but that's not saying much (will be an intel one so can undervolt so it's nice and comfy)

micro center has a lenovo with a plain 3050 but not sure that's a good idea long term (battery is much smaller than the acer - and that's a pig battery wise)

[golden stream]

Ngl I do want a decent desktop AM5 APU

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

blua | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92563823

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/57758604

[fair parcel]

[deep sapphire]

Nobody, dad

https://external-preview.redd.it/7UJO6WPz5VtANSJpQiHavbfYTHUepKBstlp9_nnLe1o.png?auto=webp&s=1778bd5be4edab09d1fcc215b34a2234d0f680f6

They had cool box art

[dreamy chasm]

back when every gpu had that loud as shit single blower fan design

or just a bare heatsink

[royal forge]

!hank

[opal panther]

ナリ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/75225151

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/17745241

[austere socket]

pope francis by midjourney

https://storage.superpixel.com/article/475769/eaf0ccebbc9e5832659ea88bf823c955.jpg@900xAUTO

[inland mauve]

he's MORBING

[lime wasp]

Would the 140mm AIO in the H1 V2 be enough for a 7700x? If I replaced the fan with something more powerful like the Noctua 140mm?

[golden stream]

Ehhhhhh not quite recommend

Even SFF peep recommend 240mm if you could

[dreamy chasm]

I just found a 2080 super for 350

[golden stream]

Gib

[real edge]

6700xt is the same price and has better performance so technically you can buy it

[golden stream]

I do want to plunge onto the AMD side (also bc linux kekw) but then I do have some other work that is better w nvidia

[dull garnet]

dual 70mm fans lets go

[golden stream]

So uh, APU is kinda smorter choice

but then AMD cards can fit SFF cases while nvidia is not....

[dreamy chasm]

they're 500 bucks here

[golden stream]

Also used or brand new?

[dreamy chasm]

used

[lime wasp]

Yeah, but then you could just spend $20-$30 more and get a 3060 and beat that 2080

[golden stream]

Ahhhhh fair

[lime wasp]

And it'd be new

[dreamy chasm]

??

a 3060 is nowhere close

[golden stream]

Eh ngl 3060/ti is still a decent choice

[dreamy chasm]

lol

[real edge]

a 3060 is worse than a 2080

in raster

[dull garnet]

ti is faster than a 2080 super

[golden stream]

Not rt stuff right?

[real edge]

a 3060 is more along the lines of a base 2070

outside of vram

[dreamy chasm]

3060tis here are 450-500ish

[lime wasp]

Oh.

I was looking in US where they're like $350-$380

[real edge]

a used 2080ti might not be a bad choice

its cheap nowdays

used

[dreamy chasm]

if i wanted to buy a gpu from amazon US

[real edge]

or

a used 3080

if you really must get nvidia

[golden stream]

Ngl not a fan of connector stuff :/

[real edge]

the new connector

is 40 series

[dreamy chasm]

a 3080 would be way beyond my price range

[real edge]

30 has the same old 6+2

[golden stream]

Can be used

Huh I thought they dropped it at 3070+

[real edge]

no

40 series is new connector

[golden stream]

Ah

[lime wasp]

Some 3090s and 3090 Ti use the 12VHPWR, but not the 3080s or lower

[golden stream]

LOL I found an used Intel ARC 750

280USD

[real edge]

seems about right

its 270euro new here

[golden stream]

Ya 300USD-ish if brand new

Didn't expect a madlad used that then yeeted on secondhand market kekw

My fellow usually just go for nvidia
A rare few gon AMD
Intel.......maybe 5 peeps

[sharp star]

Intel Arc is in a pretty good spot for what’s effectively a beta product

[golden stream]

Holy s this is p cute

If not accounting for the weird choice of heatsink that is

[real edge]

smol

[dreamy chasm]

anyways

i might go for the 2080ti if it's still there by the time i get funds for it

[real edge]

how much is a used one?

over there

[dreamy chasm]

there's only one I can find

but it's 300-330

err

not a ti

its a super

[real edge]

and you absolutely need nvidia?

[dreamy chasm]

no

but it's the only half decent think i can find in the price range

6700s are 400

[real edge]

what about a 6650xt?

6750xt? more expensive?

[golden stream]

Either more exp, also maybe not much secondhand

Fiercer competition

[dreamy chasm]

6650 is 450-ish new

prices here are dogshit

[real edge]

I'd love to search for prices myself but idk country or what site you are looking at

[dreamy chasm]

some 6700xt/6650/6750's are going for 500+

[golden stream]

Holy

[real edge]

waaaaaa

[dreamy chasm]

yeah.

[golden stream]

And here I thought SEA price is alr weird

[dreamy chasm]

Only options are to buy used, refurbished or import at high tax rates

[real edge]

is importing from another country from the same region as you expensive?

[dreamy chasm]

i would have to check

[golden stream]

South america?

[real edge]

so like, singapore to malaysia or something, instead of america to malaysia

etc

[dreamy chasm]

SEA

[golden stream]

Ah

PH?

[dreamy chasm]

my country's pricing is just egregious

yeah

[golden stream]

OHHHHH OK

Manila?

Eh mostly about the region for the sake of logistic btw

[real edge]

I'd assume there are agreements in place between the countries for the sake of trade and less import taxes

[golden stream]

And ya my frens there said the PH GPU market is pretty f-ed

[dreamy chasm]

yup

most of the half decent options are used cards from other regions or locally (mostly china)

[real edge]

could even go with aliexpress

[golden stream]

ahem mined cards

Usually peep go lazada/shopee

[dreamy chasm]

mining cards are about as reliable as used cards from other sources

so it doesnt really matter to me

[golden stream]

Yeah.....

[dreamy chasm]

replacement fans are fairly cheap in the off chance that the bearings on those are giving out

[real edge]

check the markets from other countries in your region then you might find something much better out there than a 2080super

[golden stream]

Prob the issue of import tax

[real edge]

I'd assume 140$ is for america to sea

but maybe sea to sea is much cheaper

[golden stream]

Eh depend on the country and the rate of said product

If you have a fren in the region that can toss their card in luggage and gib it to you like UBEREAT in xiv to avoid tax, it's cheaper
but fren where

[dreamy chasm]

tax here depends mostly on the item you're importing and not where it's from

so i heavily doubt looking elsewhere is going to give me good results

[golden stream]

Huh

[real edge]

hm

aliexpress has free shipping to US/EU from what I know(despite import taxes)

so maybe that can be an option

[golden stream]

Nah still have custom in SEA

[dreamy chasm]

ali shipping to my country is either expensive or goes through our awful postal service

[golden stream]

• shipping as well

[dreamy chasm]

and still is subject to taxrates if it's valuable neough

[golden stream]

Ngl I haven't try to get stuff on lazadia that importing

[dreamy chasm]

prices here are dogshit awful, nhada

[sharp star]

very

[golden stream]

Imagine Bozja under Garlemald pre Baljasien
Ye that's PH

[dreamy chasm]

anyways

2080 super's probably my best bet at something half decent

[golden stream]

Ya

If you can snatch it, snatch it

It works and should works well enough

[dreamy chasm]

Might go for something cheaper if the performance hit isnt too bad I guess

[real edge]

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/msi-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-10g-oc-lhr-912-v389-23-i3608441321-s18735882229.html?clickTrackInfo=query%253A3080%253Bnid%253A3608441321%253Bsrc%253ALazadaMainSrp%253Brn%253A56a022cab6db651b8687ffb07e5464b9%253Bregion%253Aph%253Bsku%253A3608441321_PH%253Bprice%253A28643.98%253Bclient%253Adesktop%253Bsupplier_id%253A500318800014%253Bpromotion_biz%253A%253Basc_category_id%253A5157%253Bitem_id%253A3608441321%253Bsku_id%253A18735882229%253Bshop_id%253A4033726&fastshipping=0&freeshipping=1&fs_ab=2&fuse_fs=1&lang=en&location=Overseas&price=28643.98&priceCompare=&ratingscore=0&request_id=56a022cab6db651b8687ffb07e5464b9&review=&sale=0&search=1&source=search&spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.2&stock=1

interesting

520usd

[dreamy chasm]

id be careful with lazada

site has a lot of fake vendors that're looking to scam people

and they're pretty bad at filtering them out

[lost python]

so its like philipine amazon?

[dreamy chasm]

shittier amazon, pretty much

[golden stream]

Ya

[dreamy chasm]

shopee fills the same role

[golden stream]

Well not just PH but SEA amazon

Lazada, shopee

Grab is our uber and actually kinda fine

[lost python]

sucks that there are so many shops out there like this

[dreamy chasm]

they put up fake listings with pictures stolen from other legitimate vendors

if you ever order from them they'll try to send you a defective/wrong product that's significantly cheaper, or try to get you to pay through a third party money transfer in order to get around the buyer protections on these sites

You can usually tell that they're fake listings whenever the prices are too good to be true, and the vendor doesn't have any reviews

plus, they tend to have listings that're copied over from different vendors

[real edge]

520usd for a 3080 is about the price I'd expect from a used 3080

I know about lazada and shoppee cause I looked for tech for Aoi

[dreamy chasm]

if you check their sold listings it's obvious that they're just fleecing people

[real edge]

I see :/

[golden stream]

Lazada and shopee: always look for reviews

[dreamy chasm]

this was the specific listing i was looking at

i do have to check if it fits in my case first

[lime wasp]

Well, I decided what my refund money is gonna go to

Finally

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-suprim-liquid-x-24g-24gb-ddr6x-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card/6522334.p?skuId=6522334

[real edge]

https://shopee.ph/USED-Galax-GeForce-RTX-3060-Ti-Metal-Master-OC-i.310005608.12497700988?sp_atk=2f835115-fde3-44c8-afd1-bff2766f9d63&xptdk=2f835115-fde3-44c8-afd1-bff2766f9d63

https://shopee.ph/AISURIX-Brand-New-RX-6600XT-8G-Graphics-Card-8G-128Bit-GDDR6-16Ghz-GPU-Video-card-For-PC-Gaming-COD-i.907205222.19065801143?sp_atk=d4cba498-c693-4110-8a57-5bc1fbb1e828&xptdk=d4cba498-c693-4110-8a57-5bc1fbb1e828

Found a couple of interesting postings

3060ti is interesting for 360$

for your local prices

[golden stream]

Brand new?

[real edge]

USED 3060ti

like its not a good price for a used card

but for the local prices its ehhh

[dreamy chasm]

a little above what i want to pay for it but

ill have to consider it

[real edge]

the 6600xt is tempting for 240$ but its not from an AIB I recognize

[dreamy chasm]

mmh

there are 5700xts for a lot less that have around the same performance, i think

[golden stream]

Only 2 review and one of it is weord, another one is trustworthy

[dreamy chasm]

I do have an ITX case, so extra long cards wont work

[golden stream]

Dan A4 equivalent case?

I guess????

[dreamy chasm]

I think Aisurix might be one of those companies who repurpose old gpus and slap new coolers onto them

yeah

[real edge]

https://shopee.ph/Colorful-GeForce-RTX-3060Ti-NB-V-(USED)-i.322486422.20653976868?sp_atk=319170c4-ed9f-4ef3-b11f-ab6cdd44cc8c&xptdk=319170c4-ed9f-4ef3-b11f-ab6cdd44cc8c here is another listing but it only has 1 review, sketchy

[golden stream]

Ah ye what's the max length gpu allowed?

[dreamy chasm]

300ish

philkor seems to have sold enough to be trustworthy to an extent

[golden stream]

Slightly sketchy, the other stuff of that shop has more reviews

Which is kinda fine......?

[dreamy chasm]

actually sketchy listings tend to be from sellers with no reviews or all bad ones

yeah

this vendor's probably at least okay

5700xts are about as fast as 6600xts.. right?

[hard drift]

don't get one

don't consider any 5000 series cards

[real edge]

^

[dreamy chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFezkrEmhhk&t=506s idk

its something that i have to consider given pricing here is awful

[hard drift]

a majority of users including myself had tons of issues with it

[dreamy chasm]

6600xts are a hundred bucks more

[modest moss]

please don't buy an amd 5000 series gpu if you play ffxiv

[hard drift]

and a lot less bug ridden than a 5000 series card

5000 series was just awful to deal with 😐

[dreamy chasm]

all the old reports i've seen were fairly old

[hard drift]

a lot of the people that used 5000 series upgraded during the pandemic

[dreamy chasm]

and i dont care about ffxiv nearly enough to actually care

[dreamy chasm]

yeah, because they sold for a shitton due to having a high hashrate

[modest moss]

I mean, if you want to take that gamble, that's on you, but based on the disproportionate amount of issues we saw in here, we have to say something

[hard drift]

yeah and they wanted to get rid of that awful card

[real edge]

https://shopee.ph/PNY-GeForce-RTX-3070-8GB-UPRISING-Dual-Fan-Triple-Fan-USED-PALIT-6GB-GTX-i.299339866.20764067072?sp_atk=a741dc7b-d3dd-41d3-9a10-811859c3c9ef&xptdk=a741dc7b-d3dd-41d3-9a10-811859c3c9ef suspicious price but maybe worth a look if the store is legit

[modest moss]

for a huge amount of time we'd get "I have directx errors" and we'd know it was a 5600 or 5700

[real edge]

the listing seems fucked tho

[dreamy chasm]

That.. does look pretty suspicious

[real edge]

ye

[dreamy chasm]

I've been wanting to move away from FF anyway

[real edge]

I wouldn't get a 5xxx series gpu

[dreamy chasm]

well

this guy seems to have just used it for mining

i wonder why they aren't selling it for more, though

[real edge]

if it was EU/US I'd say whatever, 400$ for a used 3070 does not seem sus

[dreamy chasm]

yeah

probably a good deal if it's real

oh

it's a 3 slot card

might be.. a tight fit

[real edge]

seems like there were a few deals

good luck

I hope you get what you pay for

[dreamy chasm]

nod

I am looking but, I'll have to sleep on the decision

i have a 1660s and it hasn't been struggling per se

[golden stream]

Mine is just 1660 but still fine

[dreamy chasm]

But an upgrade's really tempting

Specially since I don't really cap out on 144hz in some games

[golden stream]

HARK! TEMPTATION RINGS!

Eh ngl me rn thinking upgrading my DDR4 systems then forget about it for at least few years
Then retire it to my cousins' minecraft machine idk

[dreamy chasm]

Are you on am4

[golden stream]

Ya

Both machines

[dreamy chasm]

It's probably cheaper to stretch it out and just get a 5800x3d instead of hopping to a ddr5 platform

Unless you need the extra performance

[real edge]

for an upgrade

I'd suggest against 8gb vram for now but

anything with more is more expensive over there

the 6700xt should have been less expensive

its 360euro here

[dreamy chasm]

Can't really change the shit pricing here, unfortunately

[real edge]

https://shopee.ph/USED-SAPPHIRE-RX-6700-XT-12GB-Graphics-Card-2560SP-2581MHz-GDDR6-12GB-192Bit-16Gbps-GPU-TDP-230W-HDMI-DPx3-i.721493043.23509952425?sp_atk=0153786c-e083-41ee-986f-50efc6456756&xptdk=0153786c-e083-41ee-986f-50efc6456756 there is this but its all I found

440$ is pushing it

[dreamy chasm]

I did see a 6700 for 410

but the 3070 would be a better deal at that point ( if it actually fits)

[golden stream]

Ya that's actually my plan, get decent CPUs, maybe extra memory then keep em running
I only get DDR5 after DDR4 be like, really obsolete

[dreamy chasm]

The platform's still good, yeah

[real edge]

hm

more vram helps these days

what resolution are you at

8gb might be fine for 1080p

[dreamy chasm]

1080

I just want to run high refresh a bit easier

[real edge]

I see

DLSS definitely helps then and FSR

a 6700 would be nice for the vram buffer but a 3070 is good too

the two are about equal in terms of recommendation from me

at 1080p

for 1440p I would go for 6700/6700xt for sure tho

vram buffer

[dreamy chasm]

I might go with something cheaper, maybe

i was originall yjust looking for something in the 6600xt range as far as performance went

[dull garnet]

yeah 8gb is limiting for 1440 for new titles

[glossy ravine]

Yall

I uncovered some prehistoric tech

[sharp star]

simply download more VRAM

[glossy ravine]

I found a box full of them.

[dull garnet]

:(

[hard drift]

I got 1tb of vram thanks to a download 😎

[dull garnet]

annoying thing is i'm basically in the same buying situation as 2 years ago

actually i've had my card like 29 months now

[deep sapphire]

nice GTX 295

[deep sapphire]

[sharp star]

[dull garnet]

dang

[minor hollow]

i mean at $300

kinda worth the risk

[dusky magnet]

Rad

[wide hill]

sounds like an email tracker rather than a verification url

well, added in also

like how sendgrid overrides url's to track clicks

not unusual

maybe you can find the redirect url in the query

[modern iris]

Best Buy should add TVs to their upgrade+ plans

I would totally upgrade my TV every 5 years if there was a good plan for it

That heavily depends on brands. I have a Hisense TV and there is no ads throughout the main OS

Only ads on the GoogleTV platform

Yea, TV brands should cut down price and just not have apps included. Partner with brands, and just include the stick.

Hmm I am in the tech space and must be too young to know it

Oh LMAO

[sly elk]

by definition, most monitors are still 'multisync' lol

the thing I most distinctly remember about CRTs is how much heavier a color CRT was than a monochrome one

(also how much more pcb)

there were certain early models that tried to have too much functionality for their time

and they just had massive PCBs

DVI was mostly digital with a few pins for analog 😄

yep yep

[dull garnet]

i think that was basically a standard for ATI

my HD 4890 did that

yeah

[sly elk]

i don't remember dvi-to-hdmi adapters coming with cards

but I do remember dvi to vga adapters coming

I had so many at one point lol

tbh i wasn't building PCs at that point

[dull garnet]

i had piles of dvi to vga

that's when cards began to adopt dual dvi

early 00s

hdmi has never been good for pc

used it since my U2410

🙏

[sly elk]

I remember when GPUs only did 1 video output at a time

and then there was the geforce TwinView

also the vooodoo 3 3500 with the cool breakout box thingy that could connect to tvs and even be used to watch tv >>

even today i think that hockey puck adapter thing looks cool >>

[dull garnet]

the all in wonder cards were cool

[sly elk]

neat

[sly elk]

hehe

all in wonder, I also remember wanting one of those

they kept making those for quite a while after nvidia bought 3dfx

[inland mauve]

is that an external power plug?

[sly elk]

where?

[deep sapphire]

whats this dog shit doing on my screen

[sly elk]

ah i see

hank doesn't like ati either

[dull garnet]

9800 pro is goated

[dull garnet]

faster than your 4090 mate

[deep sapphire]

OI

U FUCKIN CHEEKY CU-

[sly elk]

I liked ati because they let you overclock anything hahaha

like, I could overclock the gpu on my powerbook g4

[deep sapphire]

I overclocked my gamecube

[sly elk]

which part

[deep sapphire]

the GPU

[sly elk]

the cpu or the gpu?

ahh ok

[deep sapphire]

super mario sunshine now supports DLSS

[fair parcel]

I overclocked my NES ejection button

[deep sapphire]

the NES never had an ejection button

the FAMICOM did okay

🤓

[fair parcel]

ohhhh

that's right it was spring loaded

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/nes-nintendo-entertainment-system-video-games-gaming-consoles-nintendo-gif-18432389

[fair parcel]

the good old days

[deep sapphire]

some argue sega killed 3dfx

[sly elk]

i always wondered why people revered the FAMICOM so much

the NES was a way better design

FAMICOM

it looked dumb

and cheap

[deep sapphire]

because sega decided at the last second not to use them for the chipset

[sly elk]

like some cheap dumb console ripoff thing you'd buy at big lots

[deep sapphire]

and it cost 3dfx a lot of money

on top of court fees

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/nintendo-famicom-gif-5451314

[deep sapphire]

nice going SEGA

[sly elk]

LOOK AT THIS DUMB UGLY SHIT

FAMILY COMPUTER

[deep sapphire]

damn thats gettin me in the mood

[sly elk]

it looks like a thing from 7-11

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

that makes the nacho cheese sauce

the NES was so extra

with its gigantic cartridges and the whole slot thing

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/sega-genesis-dick-vitales-awesome-baby-college-hoops-scott-the-woz-genesis-sega-gif-25117736

[fair parcel]

man what was it that had the CD add on

[fair parcel]

Sega CD-X ?

or I can't remember

[deep sapphire]

a lot of consoles had one

but the Genesis had the CD yeah

CDX was a hybrid console

a very interesting one

[fair parcel]

yeah that like later add on

is what I was thinking of

[deep sapphire]

it had the form factor of a compact CD player

and you could put batteries in it

and use it as one

[sly elk]

yea

sega was the shit

[deep sapphire]

they're extremely rare

[sly elk]

i'm sad they gave up after the dreamcast

[fair parcel]

oh wow

[deep sapphire]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265725758350

[fair parcel]

yeah it is insane to see prices on NES games and stuff

[deep sapphire]

629 bucks for it

[fair parcel]

[deep sapphire]

its insane to me how many failed consoles sega came out with in the 90s rofl

Nomad, CDX, CD, Saturn, 32X

like fuck

[fair parcel]

lol I had a friend that had the ugh oh man

[sly elk]

to be fair they didn't market any of them except the dreamcast

[fair parcel]

what was the Arcade game maker

King of Fighters maybe?

[deep sapphire]

Neo Geo?

yeah

[fair parcel]

made one console

[deep sapphire]

SNK

[fair parcel]

yeah

[sly elk]

also did the nomad really fail?

[fair parcel]

insane

[deep sapphire]

yeah

Nomads are rare

I own one, bought it back in like 2007

[fair parcel]

I wanted a Neo Geo so bad lol

[deep sapphire]

for 100 bucks

not as rare as the CDX

[sly elk]

oh lol

[fair parcel]

we did end up getting a 3D0

[sly elk]

The Nomad was the last handheld console released by Sega. Released late in the Genesis era, it had a short lifespan. It was sold exclusively in North America, and uses regional lockout. Sega's focus on the Sega Saturn left the Nomad under-supported, and it was incompatible with several Genesis peripherals, including the Power Base Converter, the Sega CD, and the 32X. About 1 million units of the Nomad were sold, and it is considered a commercial failure.[1]

[deep sapphire]

but they can go for 3-400 dollars

[fair parcel]

had some game show game that was so fun

yeah

that was me and both brothers Christmas gift lol

[deep sapphire]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185781694719?hash=item2b4173b0ff:g:J30AAOSwnT5j8DYD&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwK%2Bv5ncDmxhANZDpZHaUq9NsNkjNnsxrOgFgKdYu5Zwqd0S%2FiipRBloiaSwra5HYFtUck65UIKQo2vge4HJDhLZlr%2Btd6BboifsKE1LYPxOUKPnTKiJzaQ4TVqBT829T3kPToHBTAwQu4K1uCHDAAonQKwCryVOFRMXiNrgo0qmIXsyc1uNwBPH2ADZfyomTQBAljIBIRQHKEsBKWbXhP4Zbij2sdghU7KPH9cMDlmxPEmxGXB9HX%2B95eVjPf1iwfA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8DhtqbsYQ

oh wow

[fair parcel]

we were pretty broke tbh

[deep sapphire]

original box

[sly elk]

LMAO

The Nomad could be powered by an AC adapter, a battery recharger known as the Genesis Nomad PowerBack, or six AA batteries,[6][14] which provide a battery life of two to three hours.[4] The Nomad consumed more power (DC 9V, 3.5W) than Sega's earlier portable gaming console, the Game Gear (DC 9V, 3W).

[deep sapphire]

yeah the Nomad had like

[fair parcel]

wow

[deep sapphire]

maybe an hour of battery life

its horrible

[sly elk]

i was thinking

[deep sapphire]

and those old TFT screens ghosted like a mofo

[sly elk]

why would anyone buy a game gear if they could get a nomad

[deep sapphire]

yeah

[sly elk]

but also these old games didn't really translate well to portables

like i doubt the nomad had sleep mode or save states

[deep sapphire]

nope

its basically a model 2 modified to fix in a smaller plastic box

[fair parcel]

yeah that was anti-green tech

[deep sapphire]

fit**

[sly elk]

honestly

the fact it cost $179 and had a motorola 68k lmao

[deep sapphire]

I actually took apart a 32X

to see if you could get it to work on a Nomad

[sly elk]

and it came out in 1995

[deep sapphire]

because the only thing "stopping it" was the pass through A/V cable couldnt fit

but nope, still didnt work lol

[sly elk]

consider this

the nomad was basically a mac 128k shoved into a portable

idk it still sounds a little on the wild side haha

[deep sapphire]

Apple notebooks in general were well ahead of the competition for the time

[inland mauve]

the funny thing about that Dreamcast story is that Sega didn't just deal a blow to 3DFX, they then went to an unknown chipmaker for the chipset instead of Nvidia, which killed third party interest in the Dreamcast

[deep sapphire]

they were putting full desktop class CPUs in them

[inland mauve]

Sega almost killed two companies with that move

[deep sapphire]

Sega deserved to fail tbh

I love them but god

[dull garnet]

there is a piece of homebrew that lets you run gc games in wii mode, usually a wii will clock itself down to play gc games at the same speed as a real cube

[deep sapphire]

they were so poorly managed

[inland mauve]

Sega does what Square Enixn't

[dull garnet]

usually nets 10-20% performance boost

[deep sapphire]

what a nerd!

[inland mauve]

honestly Square Enix feels like they're loooong overdue for just a kick in the nads like Sega got around that time

[dull garnet]

its named nintendont

[deep sapphire]

Square Enix is constantly on the verge of going bankrupt

[inland mauve]

SE is so mismanaged too 😔

[dull garnet]

all the games they released late last year are $20 new now lmao

[deep sapphire]

they botched Eidos, they botch their own games

now they botched FFXIV

EW sucks

literally the worst expansion this game has ever had

[inland mauve]

thank you for your opinion

[deep sapphire]

why tf did they take yoshi P

[dull garnet]

having an opinion about ff14 story makes you the bigger nerd

[deep sapphire]

and put him on another project

like wtf were they thinking

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/itrendz-itrendz-trading-itrendz-family-options-trading-money-gif-26396247

[deep sapphire]

the story isnt the problem, the problem is the patch content

well the story pacing was pretty bad but that isnt new to the game

have fun playing 300 hours of single player content before you can do end game

[inland mauve]

I am really not here for another argument about Endwalker, that is not what I signed up for

I am here to shit on Sega

[deep sapphire]

im here to shit on both

and AMD

lets shit on AMD

[inland mauve]

sure

[deep sapphire]

where's bidori

[inland mauve]

how the fuck did AMD create a CPU that has to turn off half its cores to run video games

like what the shit

[deep sapphire]

and

AND

supposedly most boards dont support the 7800X3D

without a bios update

are we seriously STILL doing this AMD

1-800-AMD-HELP

I NEED A RENTAL ATHLON

HELP

[inland mauve]

yeah that blew my mind too, the one CPU they made that doesn't have that issue will still turn off half its cores because the OS gets confused and thinks it has to unless you do a fresh install of the OS

[deep sapphire]

the 7900X3D is the most baffling product

because you literally get half of the best of both worlds

[sly elk]

i like that about game studios

the same presentation they'll be like

our new game has 65 million players and we'ev received record profits!

[inland mauve]

interesting how the 7800X3D outperforms even the 13900K in games that very specifically support its unique technology

[sly elk]

game company ceo: i just got back from snorting coke off a hooker. woot this is awesome! yay!

also game company ceo: But we're in dire financial straits so we're firing everyone and filing bankruptcy

i think the game companies operate like movie studios

[deep sapphire]

they should've just moved the studio to some far away place and started over

[sly elk]

when a movie studio produces a movie

they don't actually produce the movie