some places have sales in the like 429 range
#technology-discussion
sly elk
AFAIK the max clamp tightly on the head so they wouldn't be a good choice for me. I also feel uneasy paying that much for something without an easily replaceable battery
(just as I do with phones and watches lol)
(yet here I am....)
sly elk
mhm i use beyerdynamic dt880 edition headphones, and they're nice and loose and comfy and sound good
but they do have that big cable
the nice thing about the cable is it's very concrete which audio source I'm using, and switching is as easy as unplugging it from device A and plugging it into device B
also I don't have to worry about battery life, or the battery bloating
odd sand
What in particular about them? My friend bought XM4s and likes them
deep sapphire
Tons of bugs, battery drain problems, the stock tips fall apart after a month
odd sand
I have the HD6XX Massdrop ones
deep sapphire
Had to RMA a pair and the replacements sucked too
odd sand
How long ago did you purchase/own them?
deep sapphire
I bought my first pair around launch, the battery in the case would drain after a single charge and the left one would constantly cut out so I RMA’d them. Replacement fixed those issues but I still had poor connection issues and after a year they barely held a charge after an hour and they kept randomly pairing with my phone while on the charge case
odd sand
Ah, they only released August 2020 huh. What portable noise cancelling headphones would you recommend then? I need something for my Japan trip in April.
cerulean talon
Ah, they only released August 2020 huh. What portable noise cancelling headphone...
I'm all bose QC's, I've had more pairs than I care to admit, and love them for travel as well as at-home.
I do prefer the ones w/ physical buttons over the weird soft-touch interfaces.
odd sand
I would complain about Bose being overpriced, but it's not like Sony are that cheap
odd sand
torpid kayak
worth to have 12600k over 5600 if the first is like $40-50 more expensive than 5600?
it depends on store, but 12600k can be $10-15 cheaper than a 5600x
basically 5600x > discounted 12600k >> 5600
modest moss
in the UK the 13600k is only a little more than 12600k and is much better
but if you're only gaming are you sure you don't want 5800x3D?
odd sand
Is this the first AIB for them? https://youtu.be/pfdNHdfenus
celest violet
worth to have 12600k over 5600 if the first is like $40-50 more expensive than 5...
I really only go for flagship these days, can't really say much for budget line personally
celest violet
Is this the first AIB for them? https://youtu.be/pfdNHdfenus
Think so
torpid kayak
I really only go for flagship these days, can't really say much for budget line ...
fund me :3
odd sand
I have to say that is really impressive of the 7950X3D if those benchmarks are legit. 50% less power usage is crazy
celest violet
Yeah I agree
odd sand
Especially after weren't people complaining about high power usage and thermals from the regular 7900X etc?
celest violet
Especially when the intel uses so much wattage a lot of people can't appropriately cool the thing
odd sand
Yeah I had to upgrade to a 360mm watercooler when I got the 13900
celest violet
I have a ryzen 9 in my main build and it's air cooled, but my 12900 in my living room pc is liquid cooled 💀
Ryzen has managed to keep the better temps, but its also in a much better case so it's unfair
sly elk
well here's what I wonder
how's the power usage on the regular 7900x and 7950x compare to a 13900k?
(I'd want the one that produces less heat)
also, yes the Intel Arc GPUs have had AIBs for a little while
sharp star
Is this the first AIB for them? https://youtu.be/pfdNHdfenus
ASRock is another but I dunno if they make A750/A770 cards
celest violet
worth to have 12600k over 5600 if the first is like $40-50 more expensive than 5...
Really depends on your budget though. The intel is stronger than a non x, but is it worth the money to you
sharp star
worth to have 12600k over 5600 if the first is like $40-50 more expensive than 5...
do you plan to overclock the 12600K
sly elk
also look at the prices for the memory, and the motherboards, and what kinda memory you need
I remember back in the day, ryzen chips were pickier about memory
torpid kayak
do you plan to overclock the 12600K
hm not interested in overclock. When I ask what to go, people points me to 12600k
sharp star
hm not interested in overclock. When I ask what to go, people points me to 12600...
then don't get the 12600K
You'd be paying extra for a feature you probably won't use
torpid kayak
then don't get the 12600K
they are normally like US$300-350 in my place. But sometimes if you build a PC, it receives 40-50% discount. But yes, I will keep that in mind.
sly elk
micro center has a 7900x combo with ram and a mobo for 599
odd sand
The problem with the K vs Non-K is in some cases the base clocks are literally lower for the non-K version
sly elk
but you gotta live near a microcenter since it's in-store-only 
celest violet
You could look for bundles yeah
odd sand
Beg Hank to go buy it for you and ship it
celest violet
Could get discounts better
torpid kayak
even a bundled 12600k is still like $50 more expensive than a 5600 🤔
celest violet
If you don't mind used, people will probably be selling to upgrade to the new stuff close to launch
torpid kayak
but well going AMD would save me a few hundreds of bucks
torpid kayak
geese
hard drift
micro center has a 7900x combo with ram and a mobo for 599
It’s great also get a samsung 2tb nvme for 10 less bundled as well
sly elk
jeep sold 223,354 grand cherokees and that was their biggest seller
which is still an insane number, I never thought jeep sold 1 grand cherokee for every f-series-truck ford sold
torpid kayak
a MSI Platfium SSD Gen 4 work? It tends to be $10 cheaper than Samsung one.
well Gen 3 1TB are priced similarly
sly elk
toyota sold 399,941 rav4s
hard drift
Yeah they are all basically the same for average consumer
torpid kayak
Yeah they are all basically the same for average consumer
Hi Sam :3
sly elk
yea the toyota number doesn't shock me but the jeep and ford truck numbers kinda do haha
jeep because I didn't think that many people wanted a grand cherokee
odd sand
ford sold 653,957 f-series trucks last year
Trucks are the minivans of guys who can't stand the idea of driving a minivan 
sly elk
yeeaaa
torpid kayak
Trucks are the minivans of guys who can't stand the idea of driving a minivan <:...
isekai device
odd sand
Modern trucks at least where it seats 4 comfortably in 2 rows, with leather heated seats and all the other features
Bucket seat and 4 on the floor https://fuelcurve.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/1973-79-Ford-F-Series-pickup-and-Bronco-with-Factory-Air-Dash.jpg
torpid kayak
for GPU, even if I don't overclock, is still worth it to get factory OCed one?
hard drift
the main benefit to getting a non intel/amd/nvidia made card is the extra potential for headroom when overclocking so it's up to you. generally speaking there's not much of a gain vs a regular one though
odd sand
I wonder when the last year was they even sold a manual tranmission truck in the US
sly elk
Speaking of fords
I spy a 2 door bronco
Also their engine start stop is very aggressive lol
Every time they stop in the drive through line it shuts off
I wonder if it has a button to turn that off
celest violet
for GPU, even if I don't overclock, is still worth it to get factory OCed one?
I think as long as you get the right card in your budget it doesn't matter if you oc or not
torpid kayak
no danky :3
sly walrus
oh it's not just me
outer sand
ok ok, if it's for everyone, then I'll just wait, ty ty
torpid kayak
https://www.msi.com/PC-Case/MPG-GUNGNIR-110M
https://www.msi.com/PC-Case/MPG-GUNGNIR-110R
if the mesh only cover half of the front, is it matter much? I kinda like the glass front case more than the mesh front one, but not sure if it works temperature-wise.
The glass front one is not air-tight from the front: there are still small gaps for air to go in, just less than mesh one
celest violet
I guess not worth U$20-30 extra
If you capitalize on dlss or fsr you'll be fine
If you are going for ryzen 5s or i5s and not ocing your temps should be fine regardless of case
sly elk
is this not a manual transmission pickup?
admittedly if someone held a gun to my head and told me I had to trade my jeep for a pickup truck, that is indeed what i'd get.
torpid kayak
is this not a manual transmission pickup?
why does it looks like the meme where a soldier is flying-elbowing an escaping crawling person?
sly walrus
check the terms and conditions on that gun, then
odd sand
Someone in town here has an old 1970s Jeep truck
sly walrus
why does it looks like the meme where a soldier is flying-elbowing an escaping c...
bad use of white space
sly walrus
they making those out of uranium?
torpid kayak
similar to crispy thin, medium thin and thick slice options for pizza
sly walrus
or are they just fleecing you
sly elk
or are they just fleecing you
definitely fleecing
celest violet
@torpid kayak
A ryzen 7 5700x is 179 after mail in rebate
sly elk
celest violet
Not sure how that would do for your budget
Check this out on @Newegg: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X - Ryzen 7 5000 Series 8-Core 3.4 GHz Socket AM4 65W None Integrated Graphics Desktop Processor - 100-100000926WOF https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5700x-ryzen-7-5000-series/p/N82E16819113735?Item=N82E16819113735&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-19-113-735-_-02282023
sly elk
with the top off you can toss your empty cans in the back while driving 😄
celest violet
Are you in a non US region? Cause like I said the newegg rebate let's you get the 5700x for 179 here
Definitely worth it
torpid kayak
yeah in Vietnam
celest violet
Ah okay that takes it out of the equation I'd guess
modest moss
yeah I was about to link the 5800x3d with a 40 dollar rebate but nah
sly elk
wow
I really really like this version of building a sim rig hehe
also a wild looking machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqMUBkb1vQ
weird game
celest violet
I really really like this version of building a sim rig hehe
Honestly thinking about making a sim rig but the space i'd use kinda turns me away
sly elk
i bought a wheel for christmas, I'm eventually planning to get a wheel stand for it
because as much as I like playing with it, it feels wrong attaching it to my table hahaha
celest violet
I work at best buy so I get a discount on that stuff, but I feel like I'd get bored fast
torpid kayak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqMUBkb1vQ
weird game
why not make a giant hamster cage for people to play with both legs and hands?
torpid kayak
i like the cute little palm rests
these are sea cucumbers
torpid kayak
I feel like I need a footrest more than an arm rest
odd sand
Last one isn't too bad. Would be better if they were curved, but at that distance at least you don't have to turn your neck a ton back and forth
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
lost python
Speaking of simrigs
Just get a wheelstand that you can fold up without taking everything apart, like the stuff from gtomega
That's how I prevent my place from getting cramped
sharp star
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
!hank
sly elk
Just get a wheelstand that you can fold up without taking everything apart, like...
that's exactly what I'm planning to dooooo
although I keep looking at the cockpit frames hahaha
lost python
sly elk
the tough part is the gtomega costs like twice what a cheap generic amazon one does, and the big thing is it weighs twice as much
so $150 for a folding very heavy metal thing
lost python
Well
cerulean talon
I legit want to build 3-4 simrigs overall, for various situations.
lost python
I can honestly strongly recommend not getting the cheap Amazon One, regardless of what people in Amazon reviews say.
sly elk
the playseat one that logitech is selling looks nice but the seat is really lame
or rather, it's not an actual seat
it's just a hammock seat like the other playseats
lost python
Yeah it's not a proper seat unfortunately
What sucks about those is that you are very limited in setting it up to fit your body
lost python
The good thing about gtomega is that they support their stuff for ages
Like i bought my stand 5-6 years ago and they still sell parts for it
lost python
Am i blind or does that cockpit not have space for handbrake or H shifter attachments?
No wait it has to be somewhere because that person has a shifter
sly elk
yea, i think that one has a plate on a pole
lost python
well good thing about the apex is that you can fold it away but you can also later on get extensions, like a simple addition to hook it to your usual chair (much needed if you get proper pedals) or an actual seatframe
sly elk
one thing I could do
is get the rear seat frame and then take one of my gaming chairs and make an adaptor for it lol
outer sand
the one I'm interested is this setup
could fold, and store it somewhere if I'm not using it
outer sand
this might be more similiar to irl supercar?
kindred brook
outer sand
or you can just carry it anywhere if you are creative enough
outer sand
that looks different to the one in the first picture
also how it looks like with all parts installed? can you still see the gundam or?
sly elk
NO WAI
I mean tbh
that's what a z590 board is worth hahahaa
z590 can only drive 11th gen
an 11900k would cost 337, that's... way too much
239 for an 11700k
190 for an 11600k
yea I couldn't do that. Even for $99. As cool as it is.
11700k+that board, if I sold my current cpu/board it'd cost like $100 to upgrade and there'd be no real performance boost to write home about, just a cooler looking motherboard hahaha
lost python
id much rather have the gundam case
but it sold out within seconds
also how can gundam be this big and popular and how can there still not be any really good game from it that isnt some arena shooter
sharp star
They got a 7900X3D before launch
tl;dr for performance: "7800X3D" > 7950X3D = 7900X3D
So, uh, yeah. It'll make a lot more sense if you waited for the 7800X3D.
If you can't wait and you want a fake 7800X3D, then get a 7950X3D
lofty crag
I dont see the point in buying them, I have a 7950X right next to me and I used it for a week or so
It was hands down the fastest CPU ive ever owned
If the entire platform didnt have as many instability issues I would have kept it but the whole system cost me $3,000 US and I have torn down and rebuilt it 3 times trying to fix issues, one time I moved a single ram stick one spot over and it took 4 hours of tear down and rebuild plus CMOS reset to fix it
lost python
oh jeez the distance to the 5800x3d is interesting
maybe i will have a moment of weakness and move my 5800x to a 7800x3d 
real edge
maybe i will have a moment of weakness and move my 5800x to a 7800x3d <a:ShakyEy...
5800x to a 5800x3d is a huge jump already
lofty crag
I still say I dont know if its worth it, your talking about an entire platform change
AM5 socket, DDR5 memory
Gen 5 PCI
And I spent nearly 20 hours of the last week fixing it
real edge
better to just get a 5800x3d and have it last you another 3-5years rather than take a jump straight to AM5
lofty crag
AM5 isnt stable yet
sharp star
I'm just gonna wait for April instead of getting a 7950X3D and faking a 7800X3D
lofty crag
Might see some better stability by then\
I was running a Ryzen 9 7950X on a B650-A Strix board with an RTX 4080
Amazing system but buggy
lost python
better to just get a 5800x3d and have it last you another 3-5years rather than t...
meh, performance difference isnt big enough for me to justify it
but since my gf needs a new rig and i want to get rid of this shitty asus motherboard anyway...
real edge
my x470 prime pro has been good so far
lofty crag
Never heard of a bad ASUS board, ive loved every one that ive had
real edge
good bios support as well
lofty crag
ASRock on the other hand shudder
lost python
my dark hero is a fucking joke and has worse features than my 120€ msi had
not to mention the bullshit asus software and lack of fan/rgb customization in bios
lofty crag
Hmm, is it an ROG board?
real edge
dark hero boards are usually monsters
lofty crag
Yeah I love Crosshair boards, they are overclocking monsters
lost python
i solved it with openRGB now, which conveniently doesnt require much and is quick&easy to use
but fan setup still sucks
this board cant even adjust my non-pwm fans that i have, while msi could
and it lacks fan headers in general
lofty crag
that sucks
Has 4 chassis headers and 2 CPU
So im surprised yours doesnt have more
lost python
i have 3 front fans, one back and one top as well as 2 for the cpu
lofty crag
Yeah your hitting the need for a fan controller at that point
Anytime I fill a case with fans im grabbing a fan controller to put in the case
lost python
i was hoping to avoid it because surely a motherboard almost 4 times the price of my old msi would have enough space.... 
but oh well, at least i didnt pay much for this because i got it in a bundle with the 5800x for like 350 at the time
lofty crag
They usually only count on 1 front, 1 back, and maybe 2 or 3 on the cpu cooler
real edge
you can use splitters as well
lost python
well what sucks a lot is that i also have pump headers that i can abuse for fans, but unlike msi, they are not adjustable
lost python
you can use splitters as well
had to do that or else i wasnt able to connect all my fans
lofty crag
Thats where splitters or controllers come in
You add a controller and set all your fans to a unified RPM
lost python
maybe someday when i reorganize or actually upgrade my system again
lofty crag
Its worth it if you want to load the system out will fans
They usually get powered directly off the PSU instead of the board and you can usually adjust the speed when you need quiet
Plus all the fan cables can be tied off and hidden easily
lost python
yeah i will have to invest into proper fans anyway because even in quiet mode, mine arent that quiet imo
lofty crag
Look into ML fans, they are mag lev and really quiet
sharp star
https://rog.asus.com/de/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-viii-dark-hero-...
I have the same board and everything from my case’s 180mm fans to the 140mm fans are wired to the fan header instead
lofty crag
It spins the fans with magnets
real edge
meanwhile me: has the same case fans from 6years ago
they work fine admittedly and keep my stuff cool
but its funny to think about
lost python
15$ has to be US, because here in germany they usually go for 20-25€ each, depending on size and if you want RGB or not
lost python
yeah double packs are like 50€ and triple packs are at around 70€
so 120€ just for fans 
but first i need a washing machine anyway
the fans are future robs problem
lofty crag
Yeah those are insane prices
real edge
why do aftermarket case fans matter so much? are the ones that come with the case not good enough?
lost python
they are usually not exactly quiet
or the most effective but it does depend on the case
and some cases dont have enough fans or none at all
real edge
my case had 3 AF140L fans looking at it
I should get a new case eventually but
this one works fine as is
lost python
Good cases can last forever tbh
I did switch because my "high airflow" case from cooler master Wass ironically not high airflow
lofty crag
Case manufactures usually skimp on case fans so they are either loud or theres not many of them
lost python
And just wasn't enough anymore.
And also convenience
real edge
Case manufactures usually skimp on case fans so they are either loud or theres n...
I use a Corsair Clear Carbide 600C Inverse
lofty crag
See if you buy a Corsair case chances are they have Corsair fans in them
real edge
idk if its performance is even good anymore
lofty crag
Other cases use generic
lofty crag
yeah
real edge
but I never hear them, their RPM is low though
lofty crag
I will always prefer Noctua or high quality Corsair fans
real edge
if my stuff starts having issues getting cooled then I might consider getting a new more modern case
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
Woah
royal forge
C-cute
opal pantherBOT
jaunty light
oh yeah baby we got some nyazusa
deep sapphire
She needs longer socks
deep sapphire
For technology reasons
jaunty light
yeah i bet you'd like that
jaunty light
if she puts on programmer socks her skill and speed in C will be improved by 100%
jaunty light
why not
jaunty light
deep sapphire
royal forge
Im just here for !hank my dude
jaunty light
!hank
opal pantherBOT
jaunty light
rare nachoneko
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
dull garnet
!hank
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
!hank
opal pantherBOT
royal forge
@deep sapphire would ya look at that
modest moss
that is a catgirl
deep sapphire
<@54695380410966016> would ya look at that
Omg I love her
opal pantherBOT
torpid kayak
this channel has truly turned into "weebnology discussion" 😄
downvote cuz not fox girls :3
torpid kayak
@deep sapphire fox girls or riot!
opal pantherBOT
jaunty light
!hank
opal pantherBOT
umbral moss
Mehdi’s comment follows Windows chief Panos Panay’s claim at CES earlier this year that “AI is going to reinvent how you do everything on Windows.”
deep sapphire
> Mehdi’s comment follows Windows chief Panos Panay’s claim at CES earlier this ...
Hey maybe search will actually work again!
They perfected it in windows 8 and then somehow regressed to windows XP levels
deep sapphire
but no idea what I would do with 24gb of VRAM
Ultra high resolution cat girls
!hank
opal pantherBOT
wraith agate
Ultra high resolution cat girls
fair
uncut cape
Man I just bought a Bluetooth speaker and was charging it but I accidentally hit the charger, which broke the damn speaker's charging port
So basically charging it is impossible now
I guess that will teach me against buying Bluetooth speakers in general stores
That shit is cheap as fuck
modest moss
oof, that sucks
umbral moss
They perfected it in windows 8 and then somehow regressed to windows XP levels
they probably changed the algorithm to prioritize DA CWOUD and internet searches, rather than things actually on your PC
paper tusk
pre-stellantis wants their exploding transmissions back https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OGQ-CAVXFPc
deep sapphire
pre-stellantis wants their exploding transmissions back https://www.youtube.com/...
The GM 8 speeds are notoriously bad and there is a large class action lawsuit over its
modern iris
my new case, was such a pain setting it up
sly elk
the braided lightning cable that came with my new trackpad smells like classic new apple electronics smell
sly elk
pre-stellantis wants their exploding transmissions back https://www.youtube.com/...
yikes
yea this is why i like my 8 speed ZF. It wasn't made by chrysler. 😄
inland mauve
bruh the difference between a 13700 + 4070Ti and a 13900 + 4080 is 560 euroes
what is UP with the prices right now
modest moss
might as well go 4090 if you're spending that much
inland mauve
that's another 550 extra on top of that
paper tusk
what is UP with the prices right now
no clue. a micro center prebuilt is kinda bullshit money (for a 3060 ti). and that's assuming going for broke in terms of m2 storage if building yourself (400 buck budget for 4 tb ssd)
inland mauve
the difference between 13700 + 4070Ti and 13900 + 4090 is 1010 euroes
paper tusk
and assuming a better cpu (i5 13600k vs i7-12whatever non k)
modern iris
im so jelly that some people's gpu's cost more than my whole pc
inland mauve
but it's just like such a ridiculous curve at some point
modern iris
for some of these pcs people build, you could buy a decent used car
sly elk
when I first built my current rig, the case was the most expensive part >>
right now, the gpu is indeed the most expensive part
jaunty light
botique transformer case
sly elk
nothing wrong with that
admittedly, i wish the v6s had better brakes
incidentally the 300 we used to have was also white 😄
jaunty light
jaunty light
incidentally the 300 we used to have was also white 😄
it had the black badge so i figured it might be the v8 but nope
it also got NV plates for some reason lol.
deep sapphire
!hank
jaunty light
!hank
deep sapphire
We cheated the system
modest moss
hax
we should report it though
@cerulean talon if we find a bug in kupo is there a reward?
sly elk
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
what's the bug?
sly elk
it had the black badge so i figured it might be the v8 but nope
with the old ones it was really obvious but with the newer ones it's really subtle.
jaunty light
if you make two calls in a short period of time it can return 2 images
sly elk
that makes sense, because it's just answering 2 calls
cerulean talon
Not surprising, :async:
jaunty light
fix this undesired behavior now
cerulean talon
"Undesired"
sly elk
it's very much desired
cerulean talon
I think it's an excellent way to double the production of catgirls.
jaunty light
@deep sapphire @sly elk ok when i hit the griddy let's all spam !hank
SE NO
!hank
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
why the hell does that have a subliminal bitcoin ad in it
jaunty light
lmao
sly elk
yea that one pissed me off too
cerulean talon
Blessed cryptocurrency.
jaunty light
today i lost 500 thousand USD in because i put all my bingusMelon into my buttcoins
cerulean talon
Should have held out for more CGC.
Gotta collect the staking interest once the network forks. nods
sly elk
akame ga kill, everyone in that show had a bad childhood lol
except maybe the fisherman kid
jaunty light
ah now you remind me where i remember those stupid ass eyes from, esdeath?
that show was ass! it's one of two shows i've given a 1
modest moss
uh, if that says either of the things I think it might say, delete it
modest moss
welp, that abbreviation is often used as a slur, so we'll err on the side of caution
jaunty light
oh 100% it was intended like that by the commenter
modest moss
then why would you post it in this server
sly elk
huh
jaunty light
making fun of dumb commenter
sly elk
that show was ass! it's one of two shows i've given a 1
it deserved that 1
celest violet
The pain of having all the rgb, but with the way I have my desk setup I can't even see inside of it.
modest moss
just turn it upside down, obvs
jaunty light
we give u a judgemental stare for the mike's
modest moss
Just purge all RGB.
preach brother
celest violet
just turn it upside down, obvs
I probably actually could cause I could mount the radiator top or bottom
Never thought that way
cerulean talon
Every watt is precious in my build.
celest violet
Me have 1300w psu
cerulean talon
Every watt is precious.
celest violet
I love rgb personally, I don't use it in full rainbow mode, but usually make it match my wallpaper or season
cerulean talon
My machine is physically above my head, so I can't see it anyway
jaunty light
dangerous
celest violet
we give u a judgemental stare for the mike's
Look man, sometimes the Mikes is the in-between of your shots
Or you use it as a chaser
cerulean talon
My computer above my head is one of the least dangerous things in my house.
jaunty light
an earthquake is gonna come along and turn your entire workspace into a cursed rube goldberg machine, ending in your PC dropping on you then some chemicals pouring on your face
cerulean talon
If this house gets hit by an earthquake, it'll probally just catch fire.
Not like vegas is well known for earthquake proof structures.
celest violet
Honestly if an earthquake was gonna mess my stuff up I'd probably want the chemicals to hit me. Don't wanna deal with the aftermath
sly elk
The pain of having all the rgb, but with the way I have my desk setup I can't ev...
flip it upside down 😄
cerulean talon
I considered using a full novec system tbh.
It's within reason for the amounts of compute I've got.
celest violet
I wonder if my psu cable would reach the top if I flipped it
jaunty light
i just want a novec hot tub
cerulean talon
I want a cray-1 chassis so I can rebuild a full server fleet into it.
celest violet
Its at least better than the horror that is my emulator pc in my living room
This is the one I don't give a crap about lmao
celest violet
Non removable back panel and the front is just for a bunch of expansion slots so basically no wire management
cerulean talon
Lemme tell you about horror stories.
jaunty light
once, coding tries to take a swig of water, but it's actually 98% isopropyl alcohol
celest violet
Mans living on the wild side
cerulean talon
once, coding tries to take a swig of water, but it's actually 98% isopropyl alco...
Nah, 100%, I use molecular sieves to dry my isopropyl.
No water in my booze, thanks.
jaunty light
ah, snorting it i see
cerulean talon
Gotta keep it pure and smooth.
cerulean talon
Mans living on the wild side
There's a couple other shots of that insanity in this channel from me.
sly elk
I haven't seen a new tower I'd want more.
celest violet
Might be enough to make me cry tbh
jaunty light
the cooler master cosmos 3
now with 100% more WEIGHT
milled entirely out of tungsten
cerulean talon
Gotta keep your lead ballast somewhere.
While it'd be completely useless, a titanium case seems like it'd be hilarious.
celest violet
Could just do the vintage approach and go lead
celest violet
Get an old crt for the monitor and poison yourself with radiation
modest moss
Impala and Sarah should compare notes on unsafe living and technological habits
cerulean talon
Sarah is already terrified that I'm a vision of their future.
modest moss
modest moss
hey you're still alive, that's some solace for her
cerulean talon
Also, unsafe living is the fun way to live.
Could you imagine how boring life would be if I didn't chase down everything I wanted to do every chance I got?
:D
jaunty light
runs tires bald, doesn't change brakes, keeps e85 in the passenger seat
cerulean talon
No no, I always perform proper maintenance.
jaunty light
jingles together a car lift out of coke cans and duct tape
cerulean talon
Also, why keep E85 in the passenger seat when my tank's full of it.
:D
Not really-ish, other than normal monitoring.
No.
We've had one on for the last 2 years, and it just needs a bit more topping up than other rigs.
modest moss
hi Sarah
potent arrow
But uh
cerulean talon
potent arrow
I have a three milk jugs filled with gasoline in my car rn lmfao
jaunty light
im all caught up on this season cours now what do i watch
modest moss
...
cerulean talon
jaunty light
modest moss
'pretend'
cerulean talon
You act like I'm not a shitposter.
potent arrow
I didn't have a container
And needed to fill the snowblower
So I just used random milk jugs lol
jaunty light
I'm a phitsoter. yeah
sly elk
the cooler master cosmos 3
the funny thing is i've liked cosmos cases at different points in time
potent arrow
Nobody stopped me at the pump
modest moss
I'm going back to XIV before I yell at Sarah
jaunty light
Nobody stopped me at the pump
would YOU stop a deranged canadian from filling milk jugs with gas?
sly elk
but they aren't idk
cerulean talon
Time to break out the fractional distillation rig!
modest moss
jaunty light
that's a good way to get stabbed in the US
potent arrow
I've if you built it, it should be fine
potent arrow
Ok fair
sly elk
but i admit I did kinda like the c700p
cerulean talon
would YOU stop a deranged canadian from filling milk jugs with gas?
Yes, but only because I have too much OSHA training drilled into my brain.
cerulean talon
Hrm, I auctually need a case with some 5.25's.
potent arrow
Why
cerulean talon
I need somewhere to mount 16 SSD's.
cerulean talon
And you can squeeze 8 SSD's into a 5.25 bay.
potent arrow
I'm tired lmfao
jaunty light
the gas man dropped off a new bag of gas for the ol 4 banger ma
potent arrow
I cleared 7 driveways today ok
cerulean talon
Ye, they're very handy.
jaunty light
couldn't even hit double digits
cerulean talon
potent arrow
AAAAA
cerulean talon
BBBBB
potent arrow
Like ur pee pee
jaunty light
cerulean talon
I prefer a top-loader these days, too lazy to hit the frontal eject button.
jaunty light
my 5.25 is a big thick boy
sly elk
yea i haven't seen a case that wow'd me in a while
i mean i really like o11s though
is hthat the kind with the hub that the disk has to click onto
be careful with those
they crack old disks
this was the reason I wanted to get a 5.25" external
but the 5.25" are $$$
external 5.25
cerulean talon
Just need to upgrade to all-external-tape. nods
potent arrow
McMaster Carr
cerulean talon
Embrace magnets.
sly elk
exactly what i was thinking sarah!
cerulean talon
McMaster <3
potent arrow
...yes
cerulean talon
I'd be shocked if they don't have a distro point up in the hat somewhere.
sly elk
lol when I was in college there was a fastenal store in my town
potent arrow
I am a business tho so it might be diff
sly elk
so I jsut went there to get that kinda stuff
idk I don't have a business and mcmaster was happy to sell me stuff
the only catch with them is they don't tell you shipping costs until after it ships
sharp star
how many case manufacturers still do 5.25" bays again
sharp star
I only know Fractal does it
sharp star
Used to hear of Antec a lot
sly elk
inwin and silverstone also still make cases with 5.25" bays
kinda surprised inwin does
inwin used to be the king of generic beige PC cases
like all those ones with the turbo button and shit
a lot of those were made by them lol
antec and eh go back further, enlight
antec cases used to be the lian li o11 of the custom pc world
i think pretty much everyone over 25 who ever built multiple computers has bought an antec case before
jaunty light
antec 300 gang
sly elk
I.. don't think I've ever owned an antec case though lmao
i'm not sure how antec became so irrelevant so quickly
sharp star
I wanna say it has to do with NZXT but I could be wrong
sharp star
but yeah NZXT popularized getting rid of 5.25" drives and putting glass everywhere(?)
sly elk
during the time when antec was popular, lian-li was also popular though
higher end though
sharp star
We don't have side fan mounts anymore too
sly elk
sharp star
Oh right we still do but they're not panel-mounted anymore because glass
sly elk
there are ways to do a glass case with side vents
you probably need thicker glass to drill a big hole in it for a fan, though
or yo could do what raidmax used to do lol
jaunty light
the silver rectangle, circa all cases from 2000 to 200 something
sly elk
metal door but you fill in the holes with glass panels (they just used a single piece of plastic ofc)
aluminum cases are so pretty inside though
cerulean talon
I feel like a forward named kirby needs to be a DMZ forward.
sly elk
i never liked steel cases before they started painting the steel black
look at this nasty ness
sharp star
jaunty light
MILITARY
deep sapphire
Requires 5 band aids after finished assembly
sharp star
we had some weird case designs back when everyone was obsessed with guns
jaunty light
Requires 5 band aids after finished assembly
blood transfusions not included
cerulean talon
https://www.corsair.com/medias/sys_master/images/images/h50/h54/9109543944222/-C...
I love this case.
deep sapphire
blood transfusions not included
Are you included
sly elk
also, obsessed with guns has been, and will probably continue to be a subset of pc gamers
cerulean talon
Also, the ammo can cases you used to see at big lan parties were always hilarious.
cerulean talon
Like "Well done, you jammed a mitx into a ammo can, but that poor processor?
sly elk
that dude is totally on the no fly list
cerulean talon
Being on the no-fly list sucks, thanks.
Worst part is it wasn't even me, it was some dude w/ my name, and it flagged.
sly elk
Like "Well done, you jammed a mitx into a ammo can, but that poor processor?
people do that a lot with jeeps lol
it's so cringe
they like add random ammo cans as part of the interior
sly elk
that rmeinds me
jaunty light
my extended clipazine
sly elk
someone was talking about a case that literally had a heatsink that looked like a gun
jaunty light
yea that was the g1 sniper
jaunty light
now try to attach something to it
sly elk
g1-killer
cerulean talon
I've got thermal epoxy.
sly elk
lol
cerulean talon
We can make this work.
sharp star
MILITARY CLASS III
cerulean talon
I always love the "MILTIARY GRADE CAPACITORS"
And they're always bottom-basement trash.
sharp star
cerulean talon
Gotta have something to cringe at.
odd sand
Requires 5 band aids after finished assembly
Yeah, I didn't even slice my hands open doing my latest build, what fun is that if you don't draw blood.
cerulean talon
Computers just don't seem to run correctly without a blood sacrifice or two.
jaunty light
today we're building a liquid cooling system and will use my blood to run it
cerulean talon
Too many dissimilar metals. TIme to replace all the iron in your blood with copper.
jaunty light
use an extremely powerful magnet to filter your blood
you dont want iron shards in your blood, do you?
cerulean talon
Might have a magneto incident.
analog aspen
My gigabyte aorus rx 6800 master without AMD andrenal installed only the display driver it crash a little less but with adrenal installed it crash a lot why is that?
im not sure if i have to send my gpu back for warranty or its just amd driver issue.
Anyone with the same gpu experience this?
golden stream
Ngl AMD sometime is quite.....questionable
torpid kayak
AMD = always malfunction dive :3
golden stream
It's actually nice on linux tho
Not on windows 
Now speaking of that, I may check my smol machine again, maybe the last time it nuked its own bluetooth driver due to AMD adrenaline driver
sly elk
amd vs intel vs nvidia really doesn't matter to me.
hehe jk
^ he's totally watching porn
HEH
microcenter cells cpu+mobo bundles on amazon
... but onlyu intel ones
wait forget i said that
they do have amd ones
odd sand
The problem is the 1 collision they get in is usually monumentally stupid
sharp star
I knew the sand in the thumbnail was a bad sign but uh
rigid hill
The problem is the 1 collision they get in is usually monumentally stupid
As opposed to a monumentally intelligent collusion lol
sharp star
tl;dw the 7900X3D matches or is worse than the 7950X3D and sometimes gets cannibalized by the older 5800X3D
rigid hill
A collision is a collision
sharp star
so as Steve put it without actually saying it, it’s a waste of sand
odd sand
I'm just explaining why it becomes bad PR for them bc ppl don't care about/see the stats on the total miles, they just see them getting in stupid accidents
rigid hill
The amount of people I see driving holding the wheel with one hand and their phone with the other just scrolling is alarming
odd sand
How is the 7900X terrible if the 7950X is supposedly so good? Shouldn't they be almost the same chip?
sharp star
How is the 7900X terrible if the 7950X is supposedly so good? Shouldn't they be ...
it’s twelve cores across two CCDs as opposed to sixteen and only one of the CCDs has the extra cache
rigid hill
I'm just explaining why it becomes bad PR for them bc ppl don't care about/see t...
Yep feelings over facts, anecdotes over stats lol
The human dilemma
sharp star
and reviewers have disabled one CCD on the 7950X3D and it performs better than both stock configurations
So as it stands in gaming it's "7800X3D" > 7950X3D >= 7900X3D
So uh, the best move would be to wait until April if you want a Zen 4 CPU but also a 3D V-cache one
torpid kayak
hm is there anything I should pay attention on a mobo purchase?
sharp star
Z-series mobos enable overclocking on K-series CPUs
real edge
what do you want to upgrade to
torpid kayak
eh the whole PC? I gonna get a new one
perhaps more RAM/storage later if I really need them
real edge
do you want us to build you something? But we do not know the vietnamese market
sharp star
It's in Asia and Asian PC markets = fucked
real edge
it also depends on your budget
torpid kayak
hm, not really. I know what build I want to aim toward. Just that I'm not sure about mobo. It always just look like a metal plate where you slot in CPU and GPU and SSD to me
its specs make no sense to me XD
real edge
well
most mobos nowdays are pretty good about features
just gotta learn about ram compatibility
and if you want to overclock
torpid kayak
there is a shop that bundles 12600k and MSI PRO Z690-A mobo. Total price is $442.66
real edge
hm
torpid kayak
not sure if that mobo worth it. WIthout that thing, the 12600k price is $256.75
torpid kayak
use case?
real edge
what are you using your pc for
torpid kayak
oh, gaming and office works
so I think opting for Ryzen 5600 instead. Pairing with a 6800 XT
real edge
productivity work? or just stuff like programming
torpid kayak
well, translate works. Just Google Calc and Docs
real edge
ahh so not anything demanding
sharp star
so I think opting for Ryzen 5600 instead. Pairing with a 6800 XT
Yeah if you can find a 5600, great. Otherwise your next best options are the 5600X and the 5700X
torpid kayak
yup
real edge
the 5800X3D is the definitive value gaming CPU as of right now
sharp star
If you can stretch out your budget some more then go for the 5800X3D
real edge
but the AM4 platform has no future, its lifespan is over so to say, it will not get any new cpus
but AM5 is too expensive
and intel platforms have no longevity either
so if you are on a budget
AM4 is good
torpid kayak
5800X3D is $375.17
inland mauve
Intel platforms have no longevity?
sharp star
5800X3D is $375.17
it originally retailed for $450 so that's not bad; see if you can find it for cheaper before pulling the trigger
real edge
Intel platforms have no longevity?
cpu upgrade wise no
real edge
5800X3D is $375.17
for a market as scuffed as that I expected worse tbh
golden stream
SEA price shenanigan don't ask
Bc I know that region price well
Ngl my two machines are AM4 machine rn altho the latest sort of but will gib to my cousin as their home steam machine anyway
Or be minecraft machine idgaf up on em but not a fan of e-waste
torpid kayak
I have this store near my house. The location is good for visit and warranty cuz all other shops are pretty far. Its stock is diverse too, but 6800 XT is currently out of stock.
It also sells common Nvidia. 3080 is like $715 (yeck). Also second-handed GPUs with 1-2 remaining years of warranty. The shop let me play for 7 days and exchange for another card if there is any error. After that, I deal with the thing's warranty myself.
I found a MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Ti VENTUS 3X 12G lasts to August 2024 at US$611.43, and a Colorful iGame GeForce RTX 3080Ti Advanced OC-V 12GB GDDR6X last to May 2025 at US$628.16
But they are second-handed so I"m skeptical.
Part of me just want to opt for 6800 XT cuz it gives my budget much more room to wriggle. Another tell me get a second-handed cuz Vietnamese tends to prefer Nvidia more (AMD drivers haunt their dream), but I don't have any experience in dealing with such goods.
real edge
how much is the 6800xt
golden stream
ya can second the nvidia bc it can work just fine without the need of updating much
p cheapo, lemme pull le price
torpid kayak
how much is the 6800xt
$589.80
golden stream
^
golden stream
not all store have 6700XT available
real edge
hm
real edge
that is much better
golden stream
also yes the store am checking has Sapphire
real edge
it has worse performance than the 6800xt but its more performance per dollar
golden stream
it's Sapphire price which is a bit harder to come
torpid kayak
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 - $336.85
Asus Dual RX 6750 XT OC 12GB GDDR6 $ 379.00
golden stream
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 - $336.85
Asus Dual RX 6750 XT OC 12GB GD...
LEL
real edge
yea that is great
much better price than the 6800xt
like
its not impressive
but its cheap for the performance
golden stream
you should see this kind of price row lol
real edge
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 - $336.85
Asus Dual RX 6750 XT OC 12GB GD...
6900xt/6950xt?
golden stream
2 left most = 6700XT = around 400USD
2 right most = 6800XT = around 600-ish USD
golden stream
6900xt/6950xt?
ngl we do have that ya
torpid kayak
PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB GDDR6 -$792.58
torpid kayak
over my budget anyway 😄
golden stream
oy Nhadala look at dis
990USD post sale
torpid kayak
that thing is bundled with a ASUS AiO
golden stream
I'd rather aio myself over that
torpid kayak
22 million VND is like roughly $1,000 XD
torpid kayak
wish they just make barebone version without extra stuffs to minimize the price :d
fan-less GPU, then sell GPU cooler
golden stream
torpid kayak
I'm sure that everything is stronger than an i5 4460 😄
real edge
ah ye what do you think about 6500 and 6650XT?
6500 is trash
6650 is good as a budget option
golden stream
yea it's like wat 150USD over here
real edge
but with the 6700xt being like 330 its like
golden stream
prob fine for lightweight casual gaming stuff
real edge
tbh the best cpu right now for the price is the 5800x3d
but going with a 5600 or a 5700x if you are on a budget
golden stream
if for intense gaming and heavy lifting stuff ya
real edge
is not a terrible option
torpid kayak
I opt for 1440p 90-100 FPS max setting on non-AAA games. Willing to tone down if it is AAA games XD
golden stream
nahhhh those can pull AAA game just fine, I mean le CPU
GPU yeah gotta plan for dat
torpid kayak
if I can run FF14 with non-gameplay shaders and still above 60 FPS in crowded area, it would be lovely :3
real edge
FF14 is very cpu bound
torpid kayak
(for some reasons, I keep crashing in FF14 due to fatal DirectX recently)
torpid kayak
so 12600k and 6800 XT?
golden stream
6700XT is fine if you can't squeeze for 6800XT
torpid kayak
I can opt for full-warranty 6800 xt. Budget is strained when I try to aim for retail 3080 XD
real edge
go with a 6700XT cause the price of the 6800xt makes it not worth it
330$ for that is hard to beat
torpid kayak
hey this case has style 😄
torpid kayak
go with a 6700XT cause the price of the 6800xt makes it not worth it
hm ok. I kinda wanna a GPU where I don't worry about 1440p gaming like 5-6 years later.
torpid kayak
oh XD
real edge
unfortunately
with the 6800xt you will get about
30-50 more fps in average but
paying 250$ more for that
ehhhh
330$ is hard to beat
torpid kayak
mhm 🤔
real edge
I have a 1070
everything is a big upgrade for me
but prices are prohibitive
I can get
torpid kayak
hm yes :d
torpid kayak
my budget is $1700-1800
real edge
that is bigger than I thought tbh
torpid kayak
including the screen that, so minus it by US$350-400. I have like $1300-1350
torpid kayak
torpid kayak
what display are you going with
Gigabyte M27Q
real edge
ahh great
torpid kayak
above is what I originally plan to go for
real edge
do you have the Q-P and the Q-X over there?
torpid kayak
there are. They are like US$100-200 more expensive though
torpid kayak
I can also get LG-27GL850 if I spend US$70 more
if I slash my RAM to 2x8 GB instead of 2x16 and drop the card to 6750xt /6700 xt, I can afford 5800x3d
torpid kayak
cool. The filter is kinda banana (you cannot add additional filkter after the first one), but it is still easy to use
real edge
yea
its much worse than pcpartpicker
😄
ill check prices on the site
and build it in pcpartpicker
inland mauve
aren't people expecting a price drop on the 40xx series?
dull garnet
kingston a400 are so bad
inland mauve
it's better to keep the windows installation on a smaller drive, right?
torpid kayak
I don't install a lot of games at once so I guess it is better to just a single 1TB SSD?
torpid kayak
XD
sharp star
I’d argue Samsung is worse nowadays lol
sharp star
the more recent ones (980, 980 Pro, and 990 Pro) are
sharp star
or use a different brand if you need to
real edge
most of the sea brands are nonsense to me
torpid kayak
I heard people bash on Corsair RAM 🤔
sharp star
Corsair is fine
real edge
but corsair is OK
torpid kayak
hm ok
torpid kayak
😄
real edge
I did see a few mistakes in your build so I tried fixing them while keeping things within budget
also
you can cut a million of whatever that currency is named for the deepcool AK500 instead
its still good
sharp star
so I saw Gigabyte P750-GMs at my local retailer today
I should’ve trapped them and asked them to trigger OPP
real edge
normally
spending more on the CPU than the GPU is a mistake
but FF14 is cpu bound
what other games do you play?
sharp star
you only spend more on the CPU if you’re a twitchy shooter player
or if you play R6S and need comically high framerates
inland mauve
I have a thought experiment about the highest end
as I pointed out yesterday, 13900K + 4080 costs €560 more than 13700K + 4070Ti
real edge
MMOs and sim games like EU4 benefit a lot from the vcache
inland mauve
but what do you actually "buy" extra for that €560
inland mauve
do I buy 10 extra frames per second? one extra year of life?
real edge
no
you keep the money
just because you have money it does not need to be spent on anything
inland mauve
yeah that's what I thought
for my high end option, the 13700K + 4070Ti is what I'm looking at
real edge
what is the 7900xtx price for you
inland mauve
because one step higher than that is just... so much more
real edge
and 4070ti