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sly elk
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Also they're basically in a big cave

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It'll wound weird anyway

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I like the design, need more impractical ev

modern iris
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can a smaller board fit in any atx mid tower case?

sly elk
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Yeup

modern iris
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got that

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have a 450m ds3h v2 gigbyte

sly elk
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You can even use itx boars usually

modern iris
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sweet ty

sly elk
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But micro atx in a full atx is fine

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You just cNt go the other direction usually

modern iris
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right you cant fit a bigger board than what tower is rated for

sly elk
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Like eatx won't fit in a micro atx case

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Hehe

modern iris
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do you know what size board i have? im not sure if its atx or matx

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i looked on website and it doesnt say

sly elk
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Which board is it?

modern iris
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gigabyte b450m ds3h v2

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currently using a midtower nzxt

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googled it

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its matx

sly elk
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Ahh so much better ๐Ÿ˜„

modern iris
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just wondering if that case will be too big

sly elk
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using my phone because of the lightning (and I forgot to charge my laptop) but ehhh plugged my keyboard into it lol

modern iris
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a keyboard for your phone? like a bt kb?

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my ex had one of those with this tablet she never used. played ff7 on it lol

sly elk
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I'm just using my desktop keyboard lol

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SwiftKey keeps popping open though while I'm typing >>

modern iris
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my case is so old lol

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i think ive had it since 2015

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its housed many different variations of pc ๐Ÿ˜›

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looks like a good deal on amazon this one im gettin

dull garnet
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well the atx spec isn't changing

sly elk
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yea but BTX never really caught on

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maybe we'll get CTX next hahahahaa

modern iris
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i thought there was only atx boards

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never heard of those

sly elk
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BTX was a thing during the pentium 4 era

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it puts the processor in the middle of the board

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kind of an interesting design

modern iris
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i think ive seen a board like that on this antique computer channel i was watching

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some guy bought a gateway all in one, fixed it, booted it up, played games on it, was from like 2000

paper tusk
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relative to what's needed for cpus these days (power use related) atx is ok (case design sucked during btx days), it's the from panel header spec that needs to be forced kicking and screaming into at least 2000+ (the all in one plug, not 6 different wires)

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was probably LGR or another retro pc hardware channel

modern iris
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yeah lgr

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it was cute

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and then i saw his video on the notorious emachines "never obsolete"

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ugh no prime shipping on my case, gotta wait until weds march 1

paper tusk
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:<

hollow hamlet
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As more and more parts of my pc fail I wonder why I keep it alive as a Frankenstein and not just buy a cheap prebuilt and just put everything new into that.

hard drift
hollow hamlet
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I kinda would like a laptop, but it would need to be able to output game visuals to my monitor, and I hear connection ports are a problem

hard drift
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you know, i've not tried to see if my laptop has problems with monitors deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

modern iris
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i think the monitor port uses a different display adaptor? not sure

paper tusk
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most laptops (well ones not from apple) have hdmi out so should be doable (might need an adapter cable if the monitor is display port)

hollow hamlet
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Ew I like display port.

sly elk
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Usb-c to display port is still the same

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It's a connector adaptor not a signal adaptor

modest moss
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Keiren stop spending money

sly elk
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A laptop with Usb-c and one of those should work exactly the same as a desktop

dull garnet
sly elk
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I have one of those ^^ it works well

dull garnet
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it does, its handy. i really like how macos does fullscreen too, makes it easy to concentrate

sly elk
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Iโ€™m not sure why anyone would run a 120mm aio but if you want one, there ya go

dull garnet
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because you're 12 and think aio are automatically better than air coolers

sly elk
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Come to think of it, there is a good use case for these

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Out of warranty gaming pc prebuilts

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They always come with these kinda coolers lol

dull garnet
sly elk
inland mauve
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alright who deleted the toaster from ActiveDirectory

sly elk
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someone on reddit was complaining about their kid's school taking over their private MS account and managing it

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i wanna know

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if you admin an azure 365 domain

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can you arbitrarily take over anyone's MS account that way?

inland mauve
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I'm not sure but if you can then the owner of the account will absolutely have to give some kind of permission for it first

sly elk
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but it could be some weird thing like their kid used the parent's computer to log into their school email or something

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IMHO it should be illegal for businesses to try and impose controls on devices they don't own. I think it's totally fair to require employees to carry work devices though.

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but then it should be illegal to monitor employees off the clock

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oof but if I went to my MS account and found out it was being managed I would be calling a lawyer

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lol like I'd pay the $200 or whatever to write a demand letter for them to remove my account from their systems and never ever touch my personal stuff ever again

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IDK why but lately I've become more fond of lian li O11 builds

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ooo you know what would be an amusing interface

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standing desk with the height controlled by a knob

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like a 0-11 knob

thorny burrow
thorny burrow
# sly elk IMHO it should be illegal for businesses to try and impose controls on devices t...

Depending on the sensitivity of the business in question, that business is held legally liable for the methods employees are able to access work information (emails, ticketing, etc). Though this is usually done by limiting access to work supplied devices or having a opt-in waiver that the employee would need to sign allowing the business to be legally able to do remote device encryption/wipe on the personal device. But outside of these examples it IS mostly illegal for a business/institution to force take over personal devices.

sly elk
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here ya go though

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it still seems really unlikely to me that an azure admin could just force someone's account into their system and then manage it

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you have to at least join via invitation?

thorny burrow
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Ah, so there is another way you can manage other users account, but still requires someone with access to your personal account to complete it. But you can delegate your account management to a domain. but this requires a request to be sent from your account to the domain in question and then be approved from their side or vise versa. only ever had to do this for full domains and not personal accounts. Its possible the daughter wanted access to things the default licensing had and may have just incidentally adopted their parent's account into their school domain. this can be undone but only by the school who has "administration" over the account.

sly elk
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yea that's my guess as well.

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errr

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I read the page someone in the comments linked to

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and it sounded like there's not much way for someone to accidentally end up part of a managed group

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I'm glad, that makes me feel much better

thorny burrow
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other than that, there is the "Allow my organization to manage this device" when you sign to activate Microsoft 365 but that's an entirely different situation. And yeah, there is no "accidentally" doing this. its sometimes a pain doing it on purpose. lol

odd sand
# sly elk IDK why but lately I've become more fond of lian li O11 builds

IMHO it's just a really elegant design for modern case needs and aesthetics, assuming you have the width for it. It allows you to hide the PSU and messy cabling behind the mainboard so it looks nice, all the glass to show off, but the front fans being to the side solves the thermal issues with front-glass. And unlike a lot of glass cases, they hide the back so you can't just see the rats nest back there. Which is my one major gripe with my X570.

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I need to get some window tint material or print some weebshit on the advertising wrap stickers you see on buses or car windows and put that on the back glass

golden stream
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O11 is a clean elegant case and design (iirc designed by the CEO himself??), ez access, minimal stuff, know where and what to hide/show, no fuzzy while still viable for mass producing

odd sand
thorny burrow
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good answer, as an MSP technician, I always recommend individuals decline all that BS and hassle.

torpid kayak
# sly elk

it is a cool build, but I think the case is a bit too close to the wall for either intake or exhaust ๐Ÿ˜„

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an ilm shound be enough :3

sly elk
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idk

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looks fine to me

torpid kayak
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uh huh, perhaps I just worry wart

sly elk
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I will say,my one criticism about the o11 is that other side doesn't look great

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the o11 evo actually did make that look better though

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idk actually

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i mean, it could certainly be worse

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it's a great case though

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that said, never built in one, so I can't really say 100% for sure I'd like using it myself xD

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but I like putting the psu around the back

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it also makes the cable management less annoying because that backside is a lot wider

odd sand
sly elk
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I would never log into work stuff from my personal computer

odd sand
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I've been away from being an analyst for about a year now and I just went back to look at it on this contract to advise their analysts and the shit is all spread out now

sly elk
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if the company gets sued your computer could get taken as evidence >>

odd sand
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They used to have it all under protection.office.com as Security and Compliance Center. Now it's under like 4 different subdomains

thorny burrow
odd sand
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SCC is completely deprecated. Some of it is now like Defender Portal I think?

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They merged SCC threat explorer and Defender ATP into Defender Portal. Compliance is now under Compliance and Purview Portal on another subdomain. Quarantine box is on exchange admin. O365 logs are on portal.azure.com

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One of my biggest annoyances is that emails are still tied to individual mailboxes instead of a central mail flow. So if you want email headers, you can't just pull them up with a message trace or threat explorer. Oh no, you need to essentially pull it from the user mailbox, and if they've deleted it already? Too bad, no forensics for you.

sly elk
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AHHH THE SONIC MOTHERBOARD HAS A CUSTOM BIOS

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sadly no custom boot graphic ><

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the gundam board had a cool graphic >>

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that 7900x+b650e+32gb ddr5 6000 for $599 dude....

jaunty light
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thats hm, seems like a good deal

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i think alone for my 5900x i paid 600 after tax

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its a sthekrett

sly elk
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turns out it's not even a new deal, been around since last month

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and there's a new deal coming out from amd monday

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$125 off a bundle like that so, let's see what happens :]

sly elk
sharp star
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first round of reviews for 3D V-Cache Zen 4 CPUs out tomorrow

jaunty light
deep sapphire
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!hank

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sly elk
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!hank

jaunty light
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!hank

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where hank

void dove
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bot only responds to hank

sly elk
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that's new

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it used to respond to everyone ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

jaunty light
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by the way kya have u been watching reborn to master sword

sly elk
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nope! is it any good?

void dove
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no one gets to hank except hank ๐Ÿ˜„

jaunty light
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it depends

sly elk
jaunty light
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as long as u like cute girls doing cute things with a nonserious story i think u will like it

deep sapphire
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!hank

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Wow shit bot

jaunty light
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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sly elk
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saber โค๏ธ

jaunty light
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ah i know what can make u watch this series

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MC basically is just saber. but not

sly elk
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tbh I haven't watched any fate other than babylon lol

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so I haven't actually seen saber

jaunty light
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masaka

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ONLY babylon?

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the worst adaptation of fate? perhaps even compared to extra CC?

golden stream
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Studio DEEN of FSN haha

jaunty light
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wait im thinking of apocrypha

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but at least apocrypha had mordred

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and babylon has mash

golden stream
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Camelot was PAIN for the one who played the game

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Hey at least Mashu smashu Lancelot's face and heart is satisfy

sly elk
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mordred is the coolest :]

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I saw the clip of her driving in one of them xD

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she's like saber but cuter

jaunty light
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no weebs are making gifs of inglis so i guess i have to do it

jaunty light
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i think u just like tomboys

sly elk
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idk, I wouldn't call Ameri a tomboy

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or Erza

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or Ryu Lion >>

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or Saber for that matter ๐Ÿ˜„

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less likely to wear makeup maybe

odd sand
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My friend won't watch Eiyuubu bc he still believes in cooties or something I dunno. Gets so insecure about any show where it's a guy to girl tensei or anything with even a hint of shoujo ai

sly elk
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what's eiyuubu?

odd sand
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So Tensei Shoujo is right out despite the story being pretty good so far and well animated

jaunty light
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guy to girl tensei is supreme if the author leans into it

sly elk
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oh

jaunty light
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unfortunately cant say that for reborn to master the blade

odd sand
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Yeah that's the funny thing about eiyuubu is it's almost irrelevant to the plot

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Inglis is well socialized/acclimated in her current life and makes an offhand comment about bc of the past life isn't interested in courting boys, but instead largely seems asexual

jaunty light
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that's because they gotta yuri bait

sly elk
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in a vaguely related sorta way

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the fujoshis were shipping the main characters together so hard it got on my nerves

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like if it was explicitly a ship it wouldn't have bugged me

jaunty light
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would still be more interesting because ||i lowkey feel like the writer is either male or cis, so the plot point is glazed over but would be infinitely more interesting if they actually explored the elements with inglis|| wryyy

odd sand
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That's happening with Buddy Daddies atm. I saw it on someone's alphabet list and I'm like ... it hasn't gone there and it likely never will. It's just dudes being bros bc I can't see PA Works doing anything "racey" like that by Japan standards

jaunty light
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the only reason I even picked it up other than my current watching all isekais to rate them is ||the MtF aspect||..

sly elk
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yea like whatever

jaunty light
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expected it to be ||not ranobe reincarnation but king asked to be because XYZ you know|| but nah

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at least it just has cute girls doing cute things

odd sand
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I didn't know anything about it before I actually saw ep1 advertised on YT by CR and it had really good animation quality, so I stuck with it

jaunty light
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oops did those frames export at the wrong speed

odd sand
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Studio Comet has an odd production history

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What app do you use for clipping from videos?

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I asked that earlier but didn't see the reply heh

jaunty light
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a very old version of screentogif

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i work with raw frames only

odd sand
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Studio Comet did some shows in the early 2000s like School Rumble, then mostly did kids shows then randomly busted out this in really high quality animation

jaunty light
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lol initial D first stage

odd sand
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diomedea I'm more familiar with the name, but they also seem to really be hitting it out of the park with the animation in Tensei Shoujo

jaunty light
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they give everyone an interesting smile look compared to other series

sly elk
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oo

jaunty light
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oh and i can finally yell at someone that the ED is really good

odd sand
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Yeah their neutral smile is kinda weird with that V smirk

sly elk
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man those fancy hair styles scream "I can afford to have a maid" lol

jaunty light
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sally and her voice octave changes

sly elk
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I mean, that one's really simple in terms of those

jaunty light
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she's a rich girl

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just like who I want to be

sly elk
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ahahaha

odd sand
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The animation or the song?

sly elk
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yea you can have killer hairdos

jaunty light
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both

odd sand
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The OP song reminds me of something circa 2000 OP music

jaunty light
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OP good because anything slap bass = good

odd sand
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jaunty light
odd sand
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OP reminded me of that song SAA! from Mamotte Shugogettan

jaunty light
odd sand
jaunty light
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they really did rip this in VHS quality

odd sand
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Mamotte Shugogettan? Possibly, that was when DVD first came out. Or if it was from LD, the bitrate they used was just bad. Early fansubs had pretty atrocious video quality bc the codecs weren't great

jaunty light
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never forget

odd sand
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I love the dissonance between the OP for Asobase and the actual contents of the episodes haha

sly elk
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oooo another one of those huh

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so my coincidental ghost stories gif is ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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crazy

odd sand
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Whereas yes, the ED of Asobase very accurately represents the series paissasquint

sly elk
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hmm I'm sitting here debating buying another apple trackpad >>

jaunty light
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next to cute girls doing cute things my favorite anime is cute girls have soul crushing depressive realizations as magical girls

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that last part being anything of course

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the funniest part is how pedestrian the lyrics to that song are

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because it would fit just as well if they did a typical pop song that sounds happy but isn't

odd sand
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I assume you've watched Daybreak illusion then?

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(only way I can find the JP opening instead of the english cover)

jaunty light
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that's a negative ghost rider

sly elk
jaunty light
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that's what i mainly thought about

jaunty light
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too many shows after tried to copy it and failed tho

sly elk
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hmmm

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yea that one's kinda fascinating in a way

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making a deal with the devil

odd sand
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Genei wo kakeru Taiyou is its name. It's actually one of the better "sad girls in magic snow" series

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Then the other one being Yuuki Yuuna

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I guess S1 of Symphogear would count as well before it hard forks into "hell yeah, motherfucker!" territory for later seasons

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And maybe Mahou Shoujo ikusei keikaku

jaunty light
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yuki yuuna was mid

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still yet to watch raising proj but maybe soon

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of course if you want really bad anime there's always site

odd sand
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I haven't watched it but isn't S1 of Wixoss pretty grim too?

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Although that's like S0 Yugioh more than magical girls right?

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On a semi-related note there is Faustian Yugioh with Credit Cards aka [C] Control anime heh

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But oh god its 4am I need to sleep

jaunty light
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ah wixoss i need to watch too but not yet

golden stream
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So uh I crashed discord, android btw haha

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Kinda funni ngl haha

wraith agate
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@hard drift so if I get the 12100

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because that's cheap

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well no but affordable

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any mobo recommendations?

sharp star
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B660/B760, don't go with the H mobos

wraith agate
sharp star
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The big names (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI) are largely fine

wraith agate
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hmm

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can't do B

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it's too expensive

sharp star
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How much is a typical B660/B760 mobo where you live

wraith agate
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around 130 USD

sharp star
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What's your overall budget

wraith agate
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before you ask, the average income in my country is 600 USD per month

sharp star
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oh

wraith agate
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right now? nothing

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I am unemployed

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but when I get to working hopefully soon I'll try to build a new PC

cobalt cradle
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best video cardfor ffxiv

potent arrow
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Used eBay 660ti

cobalt cradle
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an actual answer please?

sharp star
cobalt cradle
potent arrow
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new BNIB 660ti

sharp star
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you should be fine with a 6600 XT or a 3060 (Ti)

sharp star
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you might be fine with an A750 but youโ€™re effectively beta testing a product

potent arrow
# cobalt cradle https://tenor.com/view/despierta-ya-gif-24011402

โ–บโ–บ Remember to select 720p or 1080p HDโ—„โ—„
Running the PC Benchmark for Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, that Square Enix released today. Titled, Exploration, the benchmark takes you through the many places you will be visiting in the final game. You will be seeing huge environments, big-scale fights bustling towns and much, much more.
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My point is, ff14 is a potato game

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You can pick anything up and it'll run

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Better idea is to pick a higher end game that you know you wanna play and just get that. That is if you arnt on a budget.

cobalt cradle
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most of the ti9me ill be in battles like raids and stuff and the fps is in the 30/40s

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same with towns that have lots of other players

modest moss
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@potent arrow ๐Ÿค”

potent arrow
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Hi shue

modest moss
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hi bestie

potent arrow
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How r ya

wraith agate
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@sharp star you sure my current PC wouldn't be good enough if I could just get an RTX 20XX series card?

sharp star
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Hmm

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I think the only one in production is the 2060

modest moss
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I am equal parts excited and anxious, I have gigabit being installed tomorrow and it'll either be awesome or a shitfest

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hbu?

potent arrow
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Ur UK right

wraith agate
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I am poor

modest moss
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ya

potent arrow
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Cuz I know isp there is hell

modest moss
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my current one is synced at 42mbps and that's after having engineers out yesterday

potent arrow
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I'm alive I guess, on school break and looking at maybe fixing my PC

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42mps to gigabit @_@

modest moss
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yeah fix that leaky loop

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Amy what's your current pc?

potent arrow
wraith agate
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the motherboard is an MSI Z570? 560? Carbon, dunno. i7 7700K CPU, 16 GB RAM and a GTX1060 6GB

potent arrow
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I built a 2500k + 1050 PC for my fc lead and he gets a solid 60+ fps in p8s

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Shue come save me

modest moss
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that should run XIV pretty well at 1080p, why do you need to do anything to it?

wraith agate
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because I want to play other games than XIV

potent arrow
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Ye then u should probably upgrade ur gpu

modest moss
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you're going to have to spend quite a lot for a major upgrade though

potent arrow
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Watchu wanna play?

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I know the higher end 20xx will definitely be bottlenecked by the CPU tho

wraith agate
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Jedi Survivor

modest moss
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could potentially stick in something like a 6600 or a 3060 for some decent gains

potent arrow
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Ehhh idk if the 7700k will like a 3060

wraith agate
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I don't want 3060

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2060

real edge
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for prices purposes

wraith agate
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Hungary

real edge
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EU prices then, gocha

wraith agate
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nooot really

modest moss
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I wouldn't bother going from 1060 to 2060 tbh, 2000 cards were kinda meh

wraith agate
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Hungary uses its own currency, HUF

sharp star
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Yeah 20 series was a bleh

cobalt cradle
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i have a 3900x with 2080ti

potent arrow
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I don't think 2060 will run Jedi survivor. Generally newer games are very poorly optimized and uh

cobalt cradle
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so im not sure what to get without bottlenecking the cpu

potent arrow
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20 series is severely dead

cobalt cradle
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im thinking a 3080ti

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as nothing really needs 40 series

potent arrow
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...you have a 3900x and 2080ti and you are getting sub 60fps in raids.....

wraith agate
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it's the cheapest I could potentially get without my CPU just bottlenecking

potent arrow
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How is that remotely possible...

modest moss
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yeah something isn't right there, unless you're playing at 4k with crazy reshade settings

cobalt cradle
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cant do 4k

potent arrow
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I'm playing at the highest possible settings with a 3900x and a 3060ti(that doesn't have a cooler on it) and the fps is sky high

cobalt cradle
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only 1080p

modest moss
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there's no way a 3900x and 2080ti should be sup 60fps anywhere in XIV at 1080p

wraith agate
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I got a 1060 6 GB and i7 7700K on 1440p with shaders and I don't dip below 60 FPS in raids

real edge
# wraith agate nooot really

Check the prices of the following graphics cards:

-6600XT
-6650XT
-6700XT
-6750XT
-6800

The following CPUs:

-5600X
-5700X
-13600K

If you want to upgrade, these paths are what I would pick right now given current prices and availability.

cobalt cradle
#

ill return for the discussion after i eat

sharp star
#

We also suggested the 12100F and the 12400 to them

wraith agate
#

mostly because if I upgrade CPU I need to upgrade mobo, if I need to upgrade mobo I also need new RAMs

potent arrow
#

Yeah....if you wanna play the newest releases at a stable frame rate, without bottlenecking I would upgrade your platform

real edge
#

not new ram but new mobo yes

wraith agate
#

which is a shame because I can't afford it

potent arrow
#

Any new GPU will definitely be bottlenecked

#

So you will be throwing a lot of performance on a new GPU out the window

sharp star
#

you can definitely keep your RAM

wraith agate
#

unsure

#

I don't think my RAM is DDR4

modest moss
#

honestly Amy you're at the annoying stage of I wouldn't really spend much on that pc, and if you do buy a decent GPU that even if it's bottlenecked for a while you can move over to a new pc later

real edge
#

still

#

look at the amd cards prices

#

they might be cheap

wraith agate
#

will do

potent arrow
#

I would look at some used AMD cards and throw something in, and save for a core upgrade idk

real edge
#

I mean a 6600xt is 290euro here

modest moss
#

6600xt in there will be good gains and you could use it in a later build yeah

real edge
#

a 6700xt is much better and is 390euro

modest moss
#

we see a lot less driver issues with the 6000 amd cards than we did with 5000

potent arrow
#

Im terrified because two blue names are talking.

real edge
#

and since hungary is in the EU, prices might be fairly similar

modest moss
#

I'm going anyway

potent arrow
modest moss
#

plus I'm only an orange really

potent arrow
#

Hope ur gigubudts is installed correctly

modest moss
#

tech mentor fo' life

sharp star
#

Wait

#

DDR3L was laptop memory

#

So it's definitely a DDR4 platform

#

Alder/Raptor Lake and AM4 support DDR4 RAM but AM4 benefits from faster RAM iirc

potent arrow
#

Ta

#

Ya u rit

wraith agate
#

even if my RAM is DDR4, I still need to replace one of the sticks

sharp star
#

Dead?

potent arrow
#

Do I stick around for that one user who is trying to find an excuse to buy a 3080ti or go get snacks

wraith agate
#

mismatching speed

sharp star
#

oh

potent arrow
#

I think I go get snacks

#

nom nom time

real edge
#

DDR4 ram is like

#

80 bucks nowdays

sharp star
#

Yeah DDR4 RAM prices will plummet as DDR5 gets more widely adopted and chips getting cheaper in general

real edge
deep sapphire
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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potent arrow
#

Haaank

#

Look at my catgirl

deep sapphire
#

C@

modest moss
#

why is she so sad

potent arrow
#

More confused

#

Cuz I'm like confused 90% of the time

modest moss
#

confused about health and safety

potent arrow
#

Confused about everything

modest moss
#

or what can and can't go in a microwave

potent arrow
#

Listen

#

I don't have a microwave rn

modest moss
#

because

potent arrow
#

So no more breaking anymore

deep sapphire
#

All the loctite she snacks on

potent arrow
#

Uh

#

....Hank I've only eaten like half a tube before

deep sapphire
#

Is it the blue or red that you enjoy the most

potent arrow
#

Blue

#

Havnt tasted red

modest moss
deep sapphire
potent arrow
modest moss
potent arrow
#

OK I CANNOT DENY IVE TASTED IT

modest moss
#

wtf

potent arrow
#

BUT YOU REALLY HAD TO GO THERE

modest moss
#

we went there out of love

potent arrow
#

Reee

inland mauve
#

you tasted mercury?

potent arrow
#

namazuconcern noooo

inland mauve
potent arrow
#

I had this set to restart every week

#

what the fuck

sly elk
#

why restart?

potent arrow
#

because its the network at my parents house

#

so if theres any issue theyll just have to wait to friday

#

if not around lmfao

sly elk
#

i never restart anything

#

maybe not a terrible idea since that one's like 250 miles away and I'm not going any time soon lol

potent arrow
#

yeah its a peace of mind thing

#

if Im indisposed I just say

#

tough luck, wait for friday

modest moss
#

can't you just teach them how to restart it?

potent arrow
#

nope

#

Im also not giving my parents access to the admin side of the network

wraith agate
#

very wise

burnt swallow
#

I am once again pinging @real edge for 1440p monitor recs because I can't find the last time I asked them

real edge
#

what budget

burnt swallow
#

Like $350 range

real edge
#

Gigabyte M27 Q-P

wide hill
#

restart = take out the power socket and put it back on 30 seconds later

real edge
burnt swallow
#

Best Buy and Walmart both are out of them Cleavenotlikethis

real edge
#

microcenter?

burnt swallow
#

Don't have one sadgies

sly elk
#

-is suddenly reminded of that $599 deal-

burnt swallow
#

Guess I'm getting one when I get back from Alaska then Meruhands

real edge
wraith agate
#

Alaska, the heck.

burnt swallow
#

Alaska

#

For an entire 30 days

odd sand
#

The fun part of alaska, or like Coldfoot/Prudhoe Bay? heh

burnt swallow
#

I'll be in Fairbanks I think

#

Or somewhere around there

odd sand
#

Oh, well that's not so bad then.

hard drift
odd sand
#

That's about as "civilization" as you get in Alaska and going into spring so temps should be above 20-30F

odd sand
wraith agate
#

Might not be a good idea to toss lithium ion batteries around but in a zombie apocalypse, might come handy as a thermite grenade.

potent arrow
#

Which one is that?

odd sand
#

Anker 737 Powercore. 140W max

#

87kWh I believe since 24000mah doesn't matter if you don't also know the voltage

potent arrow
#

Holy big boi

wraith agate
#

Is Anker or Jackery the one that comes with a solar panel for outdoor charging?

odd sand
#

Both of them have their own solar panels but are also compatible with basically any solar panel with a USB connection

#

I think this one looks like it might also take 19V RV connectors

sly elk
odd sand
#

Always with the shrubbery on the desk

wispy vault
#

anyone have a link to a decent guide to get ff14 (non steam version) running on my steam deck?

sly elk
jaunty light
sly elk
#

ok so

#

i already have a 60% (but split) although I guess I could uh

opal pantherBOT
jaunty light
#

also nice brand name yet again

sly elk
#

lol

#

I didn't notice the brand

#

and i'm not buying it lol

torpid kayak
# sly elk

I wonder if the anime has reached the point where it tells you about Carol's family circumstance yet

sly elk
#

idk, i did get to the part where tomo visits carol's house

jaunty light
# sly elk

caption this. I'm going for "Listen here you little shit, why did you post that in the group chat?"

deep sapphire
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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deep sapphire
#

USA USA USA

jaunty light
#

we always knew you would be a hamman enjoyer

#

!hank

deep sapphire
jaunty light
sly elk
#

can I do that now?

#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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sly elk
#

yay!

jaunty light
#

!hank

deep sapphire
jaunty light
#

you are a sucker!

deep sapphire
jaunty light
#

that thing is ugly as sin hank

#

almost as ugly as u

#

if u squint really hard it almost looks like a g wagon

deep sapphire
#

Ur just mad cause you canโ€™t time the bot right

deep sapphire
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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deep sapphire
#

HA HA!!!

#

TOO SLOW AGAIN

#

typical ford

jaunty light
deep sapphire
#

always left in the dust

jaunty light
#

pls

#

bet u cant even drive around rn, snow boy

deep sapphire
#

remember when ford made good looking cars

jaunty light
#

can u explain why these pipes are so expensive hank

#

is it because they come in COLORS

sly elk
deep sapphire
#

did you know the creator of gran turismo said that is his favorite car

sly elk
jaunty light
#

suction cups for your ass

deep sapphire
#

YOU CAN SMELL THE PLASTIC FROM HERE

sly elk
#

those seats look incredibly uncomfortable

#

I can pass a bad dashboard

jaunty light
#

also u gotta reach onto other side of car to h it the e brake lol

sly elk
#

but scary looking seats is a straight up no for me

deep sapphire
#

!hank

#

FUCK

sly elk
#

uncomfortable seats are also a big no

jaunty light
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
Eshima | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97092842
jaunty light
#

owned

sly elk
#

if I sit in the car and it doesn't feel good

deep sapphire
#

OMG

#

IM SO MAD

sly elk
#

I suppose it's part of why i like my jeep xD the seats are nice and soft

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

some nice comfy viper seats

deep sapphire
#

whats a viper

#

didnt the Ford GT also get really horrible fuel economy lmao

#

was like 12 combined

#

14

#

12 city

jaunty light
#

still better than what i get

deep sapphire
#

what do you have again

sly elk
#

that's about what i get in my jeep

deep sapphire
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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sly elk
#

I had to fill out a paper for my insurance saying how many miles i drove in the past year >> 1221 miles.....

sly elk
#

at 12mpg...

deep sapphire
#

they make you do that?

sly elk
#

because I drive <12k miles, yes

#

they make me sign an affidavit with the odometer reading and how many miles i think i'll drive in the next year

deep sapphire
#

I remember they asked but

#

never actually made me confirm anything lol

#

maybe cause I only have liability

sly elk
#

maybe

#

the paper just says if i don't submit it in time (I didn't lol) they'll bump my mileage back to 12k a year and charge me more $$

deep sapphire
#

surprised they didnt threaten you with insurance fraud

#

"go ahead, im already dead inside"

torpid kayak
#

mental insurance

sly elk
#

they can eat shit lol

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
sly elk
#

hahaha maybe i should

torpid kayak
jaunty light
#

gross lower coolant looks annoying to do

deep sapphire
#

not in my truck

jaunty light
#

has those stupid self tensioned clip things, i'd rather just slap a normal clamp on it

deep sapphire
#

can be done in 10 minutes

sly elk
#

hmm i pay geico 869 for 6 months. progressive wanted 1057. they mentioned mercury was like 980 or something

jaunty light
#

the top one I could do in a minute but if im doing that, i might as well do the lower

sly elk
#

is it worth $20/mo tell geico to f themselves? haha

deep sapphire
#

if it isnt leaking

#

leave it alone

#

rule number 1 as a mechanic

jaunty light
#

that's the trick hank

sharp star
jaunty light
#

my truck always leaks!

deep sapphire
#

take adderall and overthink everything that isnt broken

#

exactly

#

coolant at autozone is cheap

sly elk
#

speaking as a HM embody chair owner myself

deep sapphire
#

just stock up and throw it in the bed

jaunty light
#

nah i havent squeezed the bottom one. I should probably flush the coolant, but last time it was done was 2019 when they did the manifold

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

if you do that with an embody chair

#

you'll break it

jaunty light
#

i would hope they did the pipes but

deep sapphire
#

herman miller doesnt fuck around

sly elk
#

the back is kinda fragile

sharp star
#

that's also a good way to break a limb

sly elk
#

yes, yes it is

jaunty light
#

we are muricans

sly elk
#

the funny thing about that is that HM is american

#

and these chairs are made for americans

jaunty light
#

smh

sly elk
#

trust me, the seat is wide

#

it's wide enough my entire ass fits on it

jaunty light
#

so you're saying you got a big butt

sly elk
#

that color way is neat though

jaunty light
sly elk
#

bu i think white embody chair frames look dorky

jaunty light
#

where hm x miku

sly elk
#

because the black armrests

#

also they look like dentist chairs in white ehhehe

#

but yea who sits like that

#

they wanan break their $1800 chair

#

idiots

#

I'm surprised how little hate HM gets in the pc gaming club because people are downright cheap asses and always make a big fuss about value for the $$

#

even made in the US, these things shouldn't cost more than a grand

jaunty light
#

true gamers use a folding steel chair

torpid kayak
sly elk
#

lol

#

damn straight

torpid kayak
#

look curvy to me

deep sapphire
#

Chevrolet

sly elk
#

#1 most satisfying car to own

deep sapphire
#

the best a man can get

sly elk
#

#2 is a porsche 911

#

#3 is.. a rivian r1t.......

#

ok fine I guess if you define satisfaction as making instagram videos about how every nook and cranny has a pull-out battery operated doohickey

jaunty light
#

this revolution of reincarnated princess is already up my alley

#

she has a goth witch friend and they make adderrall together

sly elk
#

I mean

#

I really do like the r1t haha

#

it has classic truck vibes

jaunty light
sly elk
#

hmm maybe the r1t could use a 2-tone paint job

#

and chrome mirror caps

torpid kayak
jaunty light
#

ye

#

she doesn't really remember her past life tho only snippets

deep sapphire
#

R1T number 1 vehicle in lacerating your artery in your leg

#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
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torpid kayak
sly elk
#

#4 was the maverick hybrid

torpid kayak
#

Storm Eagle is a cool maverick

sly elk
#

IDK what's so satisfying about having to go through hell to buy a vaporware truck and then be stuck owning a ford

torpid kayak
#

may the Ford be with ya ๐Ÿ˜„

sly elk
#

#5 is the hyundai ioniq 5. idk what to say about those

#

#6 is the polestar 2

#

isn't that just a chinese EV?

#

Polestar is a Swedish automotive brand established in 1996 by Volvo Cars' partner Flash/Polestar Racing and acquired in 2015 by Volvo, which itself was acquired by Geely in 2010.[3] It is headquartered in Torslanda outside Gothenburg, Sweden[4] with vehicle production taking place in China.[5]

deep sapphire
torpid kayak
jaunty light
sly elk
#

#7 is the brz86

#

good choice

sly elk
#

#8 is the rav4 prime. see #4 lol.

#

i heard people paying like 80k for those

#

#9 Miata

deep sapphire
#

Supposedly truck sales ground to a halt

sly elk
#

I guess miata drivers must really love thier car

deep sapphire
#

Dealers giving 10K off MSRP and factories pausing production

sly elk
#

they spend too much time on the internet talking about how awesome it is

deep sapphire
#

Fuckin finally

sly elk
#

do they have time to drive it

deep sapphire
#

Silverado high country here I come

sly elk
#

#10

jaunty light
#

well gee, people can't afford a "midrange" truck at 80k what do they expect

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

HIGH
..... COUNTRY

deep sapphire
#

The new high country is sexy

sly elk
#

should replace the mountains with a marijuana leaf

deep sapphire
#

Haha

#

The name in general is kinda stupid

#

I looked it up

deep sapphire
#

Supposedly itโ€™s in reference to Louis Chevrolet enjoying hiking or something

#

Is that supposed to be the alps then or what lmao

jaunty light
#

"boss told us he enjoys getting high"

sly elk
#

~on the road again~

#

~just can't wait to get on the road again~

#

gonna get one of those?

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
# sly elk

See if I can find one with a column shifter lmao

sly elk
#

i thought that only the fleet ones have that

#

also

deep sapphire
#

Supposedly you can custom order one with them

sly elk
#

if i bought one of those

#

i have no idea what ii would carry in the bed

deep sapphire
#

I reorganized my bed, way too much shit in it

sly elk
#

i'd make sure to stop by walmart on the way home to buy the biggest set of jumper cables they have

#

and then toss it on the front passenger seat floor

#

like every silverado i've ever been in haha

rigid hill
#

Nice cabin

deep sapphire
#

Get a nice dead blow hammer so you can smack the bottom of the fuel tank when the pump goes out every 40,000 miles

sly elk
#

last night i was thinking about buying some computer parts

#

i don't need them >>

deep sapphire
sly walrus
#

they wanted something aerodynamic, so they made a case that was a fan

torpid kayak
#

just make a caseless PC and surrounding it with air purifier

#

if you can install 20 fans, sure you can have 8 air purifiers in 8 direction

sly walrus
#

install enough fans that it flies

torpid kayak
#

it will also spin during heavy processing

sly elk
deep sapphire
sly walrus
#

for $1000 you can probably buy a ship in star citizen that looks like that

deep sapphire
#

get a V8 engine case

sly elk
torpid kayak
#

how about super retro where a pc size is of a room? ๐Ÿ˜„

sly elk
#

i almost forgot about these

#

i think antec made them lol

sly elk
#

i had a cousin of that case

#

err

#

the blue antec

#

eheeh this one's great

#

Multimedia

#

told ya that chrome handle thing was a popular mod in the late 90s

sly walrus
#

just don't drop it

#

with your one hand

sly elk
#

Business leaders already using ChatGPT told ResumeBuilders.com their companies already use ChatGPT for a variety of reasons, including 66% for writing code, 58% for copywriting and content creation, 57% for customer support, and 52% for meeting summaries and other documents. In the hiring process, 77% of companies using ChatGPT say they use it to help write job descriptions, 66% to draft interview requisitions, and 65% to respond to applications.

sly walrus
#

did chatgpt write that description

torpid kayak
sly walrus
#

i mean i'm probably making all of you up, so maybe

sly elk
#

honestly i thinkt his is one of those things where they could ask those company leaders ANYTHING and be like

#

"it's trendy to use VR right now, are you using VR?"

#

"yes actually we're using it in 66% of our products!"

torpid kayak
#

next FF14 story will be written by chatGPT ๐Ÿ˜„

hard drift
sly elk
#

i think it's cozy

#

i like all the books :]

#

ohhh

#

we had that exact tv but my brother cut the power cord off ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

i wonder if it still works, been sitting out in the covered porch room a few years now

void dove
#

if the TV is really slim, it may have its own power brick, and if that is affected, usually it uses a normal plug, so can just get a replacement online.

#

if it has an internal transformer, it probably uses a cloverleaf plug, which are common as fuck.

#

or an IEC power cable

sly elk
#

Nah itโ€™s a crt

#

The cable is usually soldered on

void dove
#

ooof yea

#

big rip then

#

those are usually hardwired

sly elk
#

Yep lol I can still replace it though

void dove
#

yeah, shouldn't be hard

#

grab any old iec cable and splice it, get hte soldering iron out

#

dont fuck up

#

highly suggest shrink tubing and electrical tape, make sure its all safe and no possibility for a short

#

always overdo it with anything plugging into mains

sly elk
#

Yep

#

I did this with a 13 inch many years ago lol

#

Used a lamp cord haha I wouldnโ€™t recommend doing that due to current requirements

void dove
#

yeah thats why i suggest a IEC cable, since they have to be rated for PC's with potentially very high power usage, they are usually rated for the max wall socket output.

#

also they are easy as fuck to get

#

any standard IEC PC cable, should be rated for 10Amps, so would work for basically everything

#

but cloverleafs are only 2.5 amps, which is why they are usually used for lower power appliances

modern iris
#

so i keep having to reinstall my gpu drivers every time i launch ffxiv else the game runs at 30 or under 30 fps and i dont understand why i have a rtx 3050 ti 16gb ram and a i5 11th gen. Its not too big of a problem for me to just quickly reinstall the drivers but it can be pretty annoying.

sly elk
void dove
#

not a bad idea, more work thou

void dove
#

otherwise, id suggest doing a full clean gpu driver reinstall, using DDU in safe mode to clear out old stuff.

#

screams fucked drivers to me

sly elk
#

this is fun

jaunty light
#

the brick

sly elk
#

that's also a $2800 GPU

#

err wait no

#
Apple

To push your graphics performance even further, choose the Radeon Pro W6800X Duo MPX Module, which is ideal for even the most demanding multi-GPU pro applications. The module has two W6800X GPUs, each with 32GB of GDDR6 memory delivering up to 512GB/s memory bandwidth. The two GPUs are connected onboard with Infinity Fabric Link, and two W6800X ...

#

for $6k they have a W6900x

odd sand
sly elk
#

I love that.

#

Also, I've never lived in a house with a basement ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

the idea creeps me out

#

of spending all day underneath my house

void dove
#

yeah its not really a thing here at all

#

ive never seen a single basement in my life, outside of american tv shows

odd sand
#

It depends on the area even in the US. Some areas the water table is either too high, or the ground is unsuitable for whatever reason so they don't have them.

sly elk
#

or it's just cheaper and easier to build it with a crawlspace

odd sand
#

In my area it's normal to have basements. Normally it's just for storage, HVAC, and laundry room. But it's not uncommon for people to have a "finished basement" as they call it

#

Kinda sorta. You need to pour foundations regardless, so I don't feel like it's much extra cost for some cinder blocks.

sly elk
#

yea I don't get this stupid stereotype of like

#

"OH YOU'RE INTO COMPUTER STUFF!"

#

"you must live in your mom's basement and smell like moldy cheese"

#

lemme try some others

#

"You're a day trader? You must smell like coke and moldy cheese"

#

actually this sucks. nvm.

odd sand
#

It's common to have a "basement bar" with maybe a pool table or a theater room

#

A cheaper variant would be just painting the cinder blocks and maybe putting up a wall to separate the laundry room/furnace and having a painted floor like a garage with a large area rug for the theater space

#

We have radon issues in my area though, so it's not necessarily a great idea for bedrooms.

sly elk
#

and then there's the kind that look like this

#

plus points if there's an old toilet in the corner

odd sand
#

(Although I took over our former toy room former office space in the basement for a year or two in middle school to be away from sharing a room with my brother)

#

Ah yes, the Pittsburgh toilet they called it I think?

sly elk
odd sand
#

Which is usually where the basement dweller meme comes from: Older sibling doesn't want to have to share space with a younger sibling or wants a pseudo-apartment so they move into the basement regardless of livability.

sly elk
#

it'd be funny to use that toilet

#

i bet it's really gross though

#

my favorite pittsburgh toilet pic was one where it was just like, right in the middle of the damn basement lol

odd sand
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Those sinks and toilets are from when the husband might work a mine job or otherwise really sloppy job. So they would come home and enter in thru the basement or in a back door straight down the stairs to the basement and clean up down there

sly elk
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yea but that theory doesn't make a whole lot of sense

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because often there's just a toiletr

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no sink or shower to do said cleaning up at

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and plumbing a sink or a shower is a lot easier than plumbing a toilet

odd sand
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Clearly there was SOME reason.

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I think someone else mentioned it prevented sewage flooding into the upper part of the house?

sly elk
odd sand
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But yes, most of those pics are from very very old houses. I went to a house party in an old college town once where the house was probably 100+ years old bc the basement floor was dirt and the support walls were like fieldstone

sly elk
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who knows, maybe some builder did it for laughs

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"someday everyone will be asking why all these houses have a random toilet in the basement!"

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odd sand
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While this absolutely lone toilet is more of a mystery, basement bathrooms are uncommon but not super rare. My friends house has a half bath in the basement. It's a proper room though with a sink and door etc.

sly elk
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ya know what I find weird/

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2 floor houses that have no bathroom whatsoever on the first floor

jaunty light
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thats because shit goes down

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so much easier to just stick it on 2f

odd sand
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Probably it's a mix of "emergency 2nd toilet", there maybe was a slop sink that was removed in the past, or maybe even one of those toilets where they have a faucet that pours into the top tank. Dunno if those were around back then.

sly elk
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nope, seen the pics, they're just normal toilets. sometimes they're the old timey kind with the tank high up on the wall

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although yea, sometimes it looks like there's a laundry sink or whatever

odd sand
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I'm saying they could have been replaced at some point

sly elk
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yep

jaunty light
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we need to normalize bidets mmk

sly elk
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but i have definitely seen a few like that one pic

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where it's a random toilet in a random spot

jaunty light
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i dont wanna see no god damn house built in 2023 that doesn't have a bidet

sly elk
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you mean those electric ones

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or the oldschool standalone bidet

odd sand
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My friend's house when I was in Monterey not only had the bathroom, but like a slop sink on the outside of the house behind the garage. I think they speculated it was for cleaning fish. But the master bedroom closet had capped off pipes from a sink in it as well that was ๐Ÿค”

jaunty light
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the way they write the product description is so fucking funny

sly elk
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wait why

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why

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why?!

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why do they have a drain like a sink

jaunty light
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u put your ass cheeks on that sucker and turn it to full blast

sly elk
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and not a drain like a shower

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or you find these

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^ whoever uses that is not messing around

jaunty light
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yeah I saw those in the middle east lmao

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didn't bother trying to figure out how to use it

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$3000...

sly elk
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you hover over the toilet and point it up your butt, ofc!

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(jk)

jaunty light
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that's what I was thinking but, I'd need to go full ass naked for it to work

odd sand
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I'm remembering the communal urinals at the big church convention center we would go to as a kid. It was like 6 people wide into a communal drain and had a giant water tank up on the ceiling. Except it would frequently get stuck and just be pouring water nonstop and even kinda overflowing a bit so you would have to stand away from it haha

jaunty light
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how do you not just spray your clothes

sly walrus
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like a shower head, but in reverse

odd sand
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Such a waste of water though...

jaunty light
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or cause a poop explosion

sly elk
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i wonder how people don't make a mess using the oldschool bidets

jaunty light
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i mean every place I went to that had the garden hose style was wet fucking everywhere

sly elk
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every old stadium has those

odd sand
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So... you waddle over there from the toilet, potentially dropping #1 or #2 on the floor ... then you also have a sink that smells like shit to wipe up constantly?

sly elk
odd sand
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And this is better why?

jaunty light
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applies copious amounts of deoderizers now it smells like perfume and piss

sly elk
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that's what i'm wondering shinon, it sounds like a bad idea

odd sand
sly elk
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especially when they have a drain cover like sinks do

jaunty light
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while clenching the cheeks at full force

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or you just take a shit in the bidet

sly elk
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speaking of weird bathroom things

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ever encounter one of these kinda sinks?

jaunty light
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what is this a fountain

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this should be the communal urinal

sly walrus
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forbidden fountain

jaunty light
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force everyone to bear witness

sly elk
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nope, it's a sink

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the only time I've ever encountered one, it looked more like this

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with the water pipe coming from the ceiling

odd sand
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It was basically this, except it was set to flush on a timer for all of them at once from one large ceiling water tank

sly elk
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those aren't communal urinals those are regular urinals

jaunty light
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man if u look at this in thumbnail mode it looks like a game render, like the sink isn't at the "right" perspective

odd sand
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Yeah sorry I meant the flushing was all linked

sly elk
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most of the time they just have a normal flush valve

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i always hated those

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also, the funky sink

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you'd think people would try to pee in them, but there's usually urinals nearby

odd sand
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Yes, the more modern version of the full length has individual flushing, but the original design was like the dump bucket at a water park: It was set to fill the reservoir at a certain speed, and when the water height reached the top, it tipped the release and flushed them. So you would always hear running water in those bathrooms.

sly elk
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while i was searching for that

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i found this

odd sand
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I still prefer the full length bc it catches more overspray doesnt it?

sly elk
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those sinks are evil

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the worst sinks ever

odd sand
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The ultra low flow nozzles that are worthless

sly elk
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it's like

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I HATE sinks where it's almost impossible to wash your hands without touching the sink

jaunty light
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i love the sensors that dont work so im trying to get the water to activate but it keeps spitting soap at me

odd sand
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Honestly, I feel like that's most sinks. The sensor is always too high on the fixture, so invariably you try to turn it on then lower your hands so you can actually lather/rinse and it turns off

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haha yeah the ones where the soap sensor somehow works from 6 inches but the water won't work from 6mm so it's just wasting tons and tons of soap in a half-dried stream on the side

sly elk
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those stupid dyson faucets

odd sand
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Another favorite are the sensor-based toilets that are so touchy that if you fidget on the bowl or lean forward at all, it flushes. So it ends up flushing like 6x

jaunty light
# sly elk

am i supposed to grab this like a bike handle

sly elk
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what about these