technology-discussion

[golden stream]

Ofc higher wattage is more futureproof if you want beefier parts like beefier GPU or so or want to render stuff

kid you not, this is 0% perf loss to me, with my current rig, still MHW custom high just fine, CP2077 custom med-high just fine but then my drivin skill succ

[umbral moss]

also consider that most DC supplies aren't perfectly compensated, so the (peak) efficiency tends to be in the 60-80% loading range

obviously it falls off as you get to and above 100%, and that juts puts undue wear on the components

if you know for a fact you're only going to be pulling 450-500W a 750W supply is fine, you're going to have that supply for the next 70 years with such a gentle load on it

[torpid kayak]

can this tool check the power voltage of my current PSU? I kinda forget how much it has. Perhaps will give me a good baseline where to start

[hard drift]

it should say it on your PSU

[golden stream]

No, need specific hardware for that
I borrowed my pal back then but then he moved to the land of kangaroo

Iirc pcpartpicker can calc/estimate your needed wattage

not taking account of overclock/underclock

[umbral moss]

undervolting can also severely change your power consumption

alongside frequency capping

[golden stream]

^

[umbral moss]

reminder that switching losses are to the fourth power of frequency

[golden stream]

The black magic of SFF

[umbral moss]

that's why the power consumption of the 7950X and 7950X3D are so different

the 7950X3D has a lower base and boost clock

so it pulls way less power

[golden stream]

Tho 3D one has more cache innit?

[umbral moss]

it does

that's also part of why it has a lower frequency

but the lower clock speed is a big decrease in power consumption

they didn't change nodes and I'm fairly certain the node itself is mature enough you're not seeing an end to end quality improvement

[golden stream]

Prob ya

[umbral moss]

if I recall, people were able to cut the power consumption of the 7950X by like 30% just by dropping the voltage

and cutting the frequency got it to like 50%

[golden stream]

Then depend on game/usage, you would like more cache or more clock

[umbral moss]

and 85% of the original performance

[golden stream]

That's pretty nutty also hella drug to tinker

Usually to SFF peep, you don't go too low but at the threshold of still keep like 90% original perf

[umbral moss]

and honestly, you don't need those extra 10% lmao

if I got 85% of a 7950X it would still be almost 2x the performance of my 6850k from 2016

[golden stream]

For avg gamer ya, not for render peep but should be fiiiiiiiine

[umbral moss]

I mean, one PC isn't ideal for rendering anyway

maybe a bitcoin mining rig with GPU acceleration

crunch crunch crunch crunch

[golden stream]

Yummy bitcoin mmm crunch

[umbral moss]

8x GPU being thrown at rendering is going to be pretty fast 😌

[golden stream]

It should be p fast ya

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

[umbral moss]

the sparks just mean it's working

[golden stream]

[torpid kayak]

having 750 W PSU with a consumption of about 500 W won't jump my electricity bill, right?

[golden stream]

Mmmmnah

750w = how much it can push usually the draw should be scale along fine with your rig's usage

[torpid kayak]

I heard a mid-range rig will want to have 3 fans? The Asus Prime AP01 case has one exhaust fan in the back, and I add in a tower cooler. Should I add some more fans?

[golden stream]

Just get how many fan you like, as far as it makes the airflow good

[modest moss]

that's kinda smart tbh

[torpid kayak]

Oh i thought the cpu cooler counts as a fan. It is not. Guess i will need extra fans

[golden stream]

Nah I mean case fan

And CPU cooler fan is like uhhhhhhh depend......?????

No joke if you're on budget, CoolerMaster 212 is like just the go to

[torpid kayak]

Hm there is only 212 in stock

[modest moss]

they mean 212

[golden stream]

Ah ye the 212

[modest moss]

what cpu are you going with?

[torpid kayak]

I5 13400f

10 cores 16 threads. 2.5 ghz

[modest moss]

the 212 evo is probably fine, you can do better by spending more but if you're on a budget it should be decent

[torpid kayak]

I spy a 212 argb hyper

And a turbo

[sharp star]

Aren't some of those Deepcool products good?

[torpid kayak]

Guess so. Cheaper too

[real edge]

deepcool ak500

deepcool ak620

look up the prices for those

[torpid kayak]

Not in stock, sadly. Only ag400 and gammaxx 400 xt which are cheaper than a 212 hyper

Nvm, found it

Ak620 is double the price of hyper 212

[modest moss]

it won't be double the performance but it'll certainly do a better job

212 is what you buy if you're broke these days

[torpid kayak]

Hm i can opt for a 212 turbo at best

[modest moss]

you could just use the stock cooler and upgrade later when you have more money

[torpid kayak]

Uh huh

[real edge]

the stock intel cooler is absolute dogwater

[torpid kayak]

Intel liquid cooler with dogwater

[modest moss]

it would be fine for a couple of months if they're not overclocking and saving up for a better cooler than the 212 though

[torpid kayak]

Hm i dont overclock. Just run stuffs at what my pc can offer by default

[sharp star]

you can't overclock because it's a non-K CPU and a B-series Intel mobo anyway

[torpid kayak]

XD

[dull garnet]

212 aren't that cheap anymore

[torpid kayak]

B660 mobo requires bios update to ron with 13400f?

[dull garnet]

i'd go for any tower cooler that fits your budget

[sharp star]

check if the retailer will loan you a CPU or if there's some kind of BIOS flashback feature on the mobo

[dull garnet]

how is flashback not a standard feature these days

so valuable

[real edge]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/10yhq1e/amd_grabs_over_30_cpu_market_share_as_intel/

good to see some competition

maybe intel will support their sockets long term

[dull garnet]

amd be like

5600 goes brrr

[umbral moss]

intel is getting clapped because they're losing the innovation war

their engineering side has been neglected for so long because they had a bean counter in charge of the company

gelsinger may not be able to save the company, honestly

[odd sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/10yfdl1/nobel_prizewinning_prediction/

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-rosa-diaz-fart-noises-fart-farting-gif-22683456

me reading anything paul krugman has to say

[torpid kayak]

I think he just plain hating Internet

[inland mauve]

was that before or after the dotcom burst

[torpid kayak]

someone berated video game industry before too

[inland mauve]

I'm sure someone did

[hard drift]

i have faith in him

[umbral moss]

I think the problem is that inertia is working against him

can he finish any of his projects before investors lose total faith in the company and tank his valuation

[hard drift]

i think he'll get something out that'll change intels downward trend

[inland mauve]

it's funny because now people are looking at ASML and then they look back at Intel and ask "why can't you do that?"

[umbral moss]

intel bet against EUV because of how expensive it is to produce

they could make an ASML competitor EUV device but the knowledge base to do so is basically exclusively employed at ASML now

they didn't think ASML would crack it since intel's engineering team couldn't

[inland mauve]

the problem is that if you start investigating EUV now, even if you're successful you won't produce a viable product for at least another five years, by which time ASML will have made the next leap in innovation

the only way to compete with ASML is to bet on the technology that will mean the next leap in chip lithography and pray that five years from now you'll have a viable product

[umbral moss]

yeah

that's why intel is where it is

they bet big on multipatterning and it didn't work for them

they're hoping ribbonfet will be the ASML killer

[inland mauve]

could Intel follow that strategy even if they wanted?

would they have the resources?

the investor patience?

[umbral moss]

they do have the lion's share of NA-based semiconductor engineers to try to tackle novel semiconductor topologies

[hard drift]

if they could justify it well enough to investors maybe

[umbral moss]

but in these weird regimes where your transistors are 2 atoms across, you need to start re-thinking how you measure electron states in the first place

[odd sand]

That was before. Dotcom bust was like 2000

[umbral moss]

stuff like magnetic moment becomes more viable

[odd sand]

Ironically enough, 2005 is when the term Cyber Monday popped into existence

[hard drift]

cyber monday 🙏

[umbral moss]

unlimited deals 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/fire-hot-deals-hot-deals-walmart-gif-25333259

[hard drift]

fire sale

[modern iris]

I had the 5800X for a while was quiet good. But I needed more PCIe lanes

[dull garnet]

sadge

[torpid kayak]

but can you download RAM with it?

Rapid Eye Movement

[modern iris]

But can u download more Diskspace?

[torpid kayak]

eh my headset cord is the anti-tangle one, but now it is tangled pretty bad XD

in progress of untangling itself, it gets even more tangled

[modern iris]

That's the reason I went wireless for most things. Except listening to music. I need those khz

[odd sand]

How does this even happen? Was there one of those food sample stands and the thing caught fire?

Or is it just "Because Walmart, don't ask."

[umbral moss]

someone probably threw a lit cigarette into it lmao

[modern iris]

I am gonna upgrade my mobo cpu and gpu today

n I am stupid af

gl me

[modest moss]

gl indeed

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/same-pointing-gif-23659204

[modern iris]

she’s everything

n I’m terrified but I installed a m.2 ssd last night n felt proud of myself

Good job

[lost python]

ah these fuckers.
told me i absolutely wont need a technician if i sign up for their internet contract for my new place. i did so, got everything set up and running and went home
and now i got the message that they are sending a technician on monday anywhere between like 1 and 4pm. so i have to sit on my ass in an empty apartment without anything to do and wait.

[umbral moss]

I'm convinced that internet providers are all configured from the factory for the same dogshit customer service

so you can be assured of the same coiled turd arriving at your door no matter what country you go to

like mcdonald's but for internet

[lost python]

its true

[dull garnet]

pc rookies be like

omg thermal paste is so complex and difficult

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/mayo-thermal-paste-cpu-processor-gif-13472622

[modern iris]

if I put that exact amount on my processor instead of where the threads are at

would you all approve

have never applied thermal paste

also are you supposed to just do a line or spread that shit

[dull garnet]

There isn't really a correct method

[modest moss]

what I do is look at the instuctions from the cooler manufacturer and do that

Noctua told me how to paste for my CPU

[modern iris]

ah I see smarty, ty

[dull garnet]

Spreading is fine but can create air pockets which is bad for thermals. I tend to go for the pea method and rely on cooler mounting pressure to spread

[modern iris]

hmm I see good to know

[dull garnet]

Did recently spread on my gpu die though... Keeps me up at night

[dreamy chasm]

If you're using a mainstream thermal paste, it doesn't hurt to use a bit more than a small pea size just for coverage's sake

Most of them are nonconductive

[dull garnet]

this is true, can go ham with nonconductive

[dreamy chasm]

Just uh, don't use the whole tube or w/e

[jaunty light]

spread all over that gpu

I put an X on mine. one line of KPX one line of kryonaut

[dull garnet]

mad lad

[jaunty light]

ran out of kpx and didnt remember where the other tube were

[umbral moss]

kryonaut's breddy gud

I used it on my titan when I put the block on it

I enjoy idle temps that match my radiator temp

[jaunty light]

my hotspot temp is higher than others but not enough to care

[dull garnet]

let me show you my hotspot

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-23801065

[sly elk]

I have permanently associated that gif with this chat lol

[acoustic viper]

why is my reshade preset doing this?

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-snl-hate-to-gif-19605814

[dull garnet]

lol

[umbral moss]

it would be nice if more tech news didn't warrant that specific reaction though

we plan to leverage our corporate synergies and utilize AI to make 8k 5g a reality, further we intend to make massive strides in V2V AV programs using cutting edge unobtanium

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-rosa-diaz-fart-noises-fart-farting-gif-22683456

[sly elk]

we are also reporting record profits this quarter

but times are tough so we're laying off 10% of our workforce

I take responsibility for this personally

[umbral moss]

no tech CEO, ever

[sly elk]

so I'm going to cut my $1 salary to $0.50, taking a whole 50% pay cut!

(and I will still accept my bonus that's bigger than the total salary of all the people I laid off)

[umbral moss]

we underestimated the economic feasibility of operations based on last year's profits, therefore we are cutting operation costs by cutting 40% of the workforce

productivity will decline, but I will continue to make as much money as before

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-rosa-diaz-fart-noises-fart-farting-gif-22683456

[sly elk]

also we've hired some consultants to post cutesy videos to linkedin and tiktok showing how they do fuck all every day for work to sow some discontent for our laid off people

(I swear, the timing of these videos HAD to be intentional)

[umbral moss]

I personally enjoy the war between laid off employees tilting off the face of the earth and the shills telling the laid off employees they lack the mental fortitude to participate in the New Company Culture

like, eat shit

[sly elk]

meh

that's ok, they are less annoying than the "i hate software engineers and wish they all got laid off" people

[potent arrow]

SOFTWARE ENGINEERS ARNT REAL ENGINEERS

[paper tusk]

is keepui.fx enabled/setup?

[golden stream]

nahhhh just reshade be reshade

some full mode bars are affected and the keepui.fx is a bit.......weird, at least with reshade interaction

[sly elk]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/SAMSUNG-34-Class-Flat-LED-Ultra-WQHD-Monitor-3-440-x-1-440-75Hz-4ms-Response-FreeSync-Display-Port-HDMI-x2-LS34J552WQNXZA/806908232

if anyone wants a cheap 34", these seem to be in stock for shipping yet again for $199

[modern iris]

successfully acquired the only tube of thermal paste on my island

it is noctua NT-H1

I hope thatll do

[dull garnet]

yessir

[sly elk]

ye!

that's good stuff.

hmm i wonder if my mac pro needs a dusting, feels hot but I usually run the fans higher than auto speed

[dull garnet]

🔥

[sly elk]

i wonder what the next mac pro will end up being like

oh wow that's a good change

uber is making a carplay version of their app

for the drivers

[dull garnet]

Is that Stats

[modern iris]

the surgery on my pc begins

think I’m gonna start w takin the stuff out instead of unboxing the new things

[dull garnet]

[modern iris]

the lil thingy on the top left is what I’m matching the processor too right?

I can barely tell

[sly elk]

Check how it is in review videos maybe hehe

[modern iris]

good plan

in the manual it just said to match it with the gold triangle on the processor

but yea I can barely tell

will look up now c:

[sly elk]

https://assets.rockpapershotgun.com/images/2019/07/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-CPU-1212x681.jpg

There’s a tiny white triangle on that cpu haha

[modern iris]

oh yay! exactly right then

[sly elk]

But it looks like that is the right place

[modern iris]

i see it on the psu jus not on the mobo

sick c:

cpu not psu

[sly elk]

Yay

[modern iris]

yay!!!!

I am too dumb for this i’m really gonna break smth

[sly elk]

No worries, take your time

You’ll be just fine

When in doubt, a little “how did they do it?” Always helps

I run into they working on my car sometimes lol

Or on other things

Playing guitar hahaha

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCdDKPonXXA

mmmm

90s PC

I love the random guitar and egyptian thingy

and it shows up all over the packaging inside too lol

[modern iris]

I did it c:

idk why it flipped

[royal forge]

Ngl

nvidia's update system

is really fucking stupid

or maybe im being dumb?

cause everytime I do a clean install of the drivers

i need to disconnect the display from my card

and connect it to the onboard

then after it updates

reconnect it

[hard drift]

lmfao, that's just nvidia

i never have had to do that

[modest moss]

what

no that's not normal

at all

that is an Aoi skill issue

[sly elk]

that isn't working right

[lapis mauve]

I'm prolly gonna put a 3060 into my pc today, upgrading from a 1660

I wonder how the driver thing works, I didn't build my pc myself so I don't really know

[sly elk]

1660->3060 you shouldn't have to do anything

[hard drift]

i know

[torpid kayak]

look great with lemon sauce :3

[lapis mauve]

Don't they have separate drivers?

[sharp star]

no, but ideally you should DDU first

because it can break things like Nvidia Broadcast

[modern iris]

wooooo!!!!! first try it worked!!!!!!

(i think)

I didn’t break anything woooooo!!!!!!

[sly elk]

yea i went from 1070ti to 5700xt to 3070 without ever uninstalling the geforce experience crap lol

didn't realize it until i booted windows the first time with the 3070

was like "wait.. why did it work perfectly?!"

[deep sapphire]

AMD so bad he went back to nvidia

[sly elk]

it wasn't anything with amd specifically

the gpu ran really loud/hot when I was gaming, and I had FOMO, and I got a good deal on the 3070 and sold the 5700xt for a lot so it was basically a free upgrade

or a very cheap upgrade

and the 3070 was nice and quiet

[lapis mauve]

Whatnow?

[sly elk]

then like almost a year later my evga queue number came up for a 3080ti ftw3 so I sold the 3070 and bought the 3080ti

that was a mistake the 3080ti is louder/hotter than the 5700xt was

otoh it's a lot more powerful, so there's that

[sharp star]

you don’t have to do a fresh install unless you know it’s gonna break something

[royal forge]

I legit didnt touch anythin in settings

So i dunoe wtf is happenin

[modest moss]

you are cursed

[royal forge]

Thank goodness cybernetics arent a thing i guess

Imagine if i installed a cybernetic arm for someone and it just fuckin dies

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/10z922o/2023_update_new_pc_build_coming_soon/

man this has just the right level of sterile for those wall tiles to look cool lol

TIL I could use my speakers as headphone stands

I am amused that labtec sold basically every generic style of pc speaker I've ever seen

they were also sold under like 20 different brands hahaha

[jaunty light]

I use my mic as the stand cuz im lazy

[jaunty light]

finally someone that just embraces the cold dystopia

too bad they have one of THOSE keyboard cables

artisan mousepad is a nice tough tho this person is a GAMER

[sly elk]

ah yes the aviator cable

what makes me laugh about those is the combination of that and "EVERY CABLE MUST BE HIDDEN! NO EXCEPTIONS!"

[sharp star]

me sticking my fingers in those holes

[sly elk]

to the point of like

they put everything backing up against the back edge of the table

so that no tables lay on the surface of the table

then they take an angle of picture to hide the cable going from their desk to the wall outlet lol

idk

I don't get what's so terrible about VISIBLE CABLES

except they're annoying to clean around

HEHE

effective marketing

ha

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266121911268

[jaunty light]

right? there are shitloads of wireless keyboards

[sly elk]

hey kid, wanna buy some tubes?

[sly elk]

mmm

admittedly, one downside to my dygma

cables XD

the moonlander also has this issue

beats having one of these on your desk though

[jaunty light]

nevermind the keyboard this dude has a funko pop and minions on their fuckin desk

[fathom ether]

had a customer in the physics department with one of these back during my internship. Turned around went right back to my office and got a normal keyboard

[sly elk]

hhahahaha

[torpid kayak]

I used to have something like this. I let it run overnight and it was smoky next morning

[golden stream]

Ooooooo ye that one

[sly elk]

I can say with confidence that the generic ones are garbage

[torpid kayak]

as a boy who only accessed to hand-me-down PC from a Dad who never bother about PC specs, I played Red Alert 2 that was at 1/3 normal speed. A 20 minute match became 60 😄

[sly elk]

cambridge, bose, sony, yamaha, roland, maybe boston accoustics made great computer "multimedia" speakers. creative, harman kardon, jbl, altec lansing made decent speakers. Then there was all the other trash.

[torpid kayak]

I rerember the good old times where I somehow upgraded my ram to 96 MB and managed to play Age of Mythology

[sly elk]

hehe 😄

my first computer was about as old as I was

older, actually

a like 7mhz 8088 that couldn't run windows

or at least, I didn't have a copy of windows that it could run

[torpid kayak]

In Vietnam, we has the local SoundMax of which quality is agreeable. I used to use have this one

[sly elk]

my first step into modern computing was when my oldest bro bought a year old sony vaio pretty cheap off a friend's friend

(in retrospect, it REALLY was. He paid like $1k for a computer the friend spent like $5k on)

[torpid kayak]

I had this one before that 4.1

[sly elk]

my parents bought me a new comp a year later, and tbh while it had a faster cpu in terms of mhz, it was slower lol

cyrix 266mhz vs pentium mmx 166mhz

[sly elk]

these are likely just rebranded some other generic brand?

[torpid kayak]

dunno. I no longer use the brand

elephant-shaped speaker is kinda weird at this angle

[sly elk]

hehehe

[torpid kayak]

I like my 5.1 logitech

too bad I don't have room to set it up now

[sly elk]

Amplified

[torpid kayak]

is this the proper way to set up a home theater? :d

I though some speakers will go to your behind?

[sly elk]

totally wrong

also totally photoshopped lmao

[jaunty light]

I think very highly of amazon products that have very good photoshopping

[sly walrus]

get a drop shadow on that motherfucker

now we’re cooking with fumes

[sly elk]

i like how they photoshopped the reflection on the coffee table

[golden stream]

prob the coffee table was 3d rendered beforehand

like for a real estate showcase booklet or kinda like that

so the basic lighting is there

and they just duckin photoshop the rest bc at least real estate render is clean so less workaround

[real edge]

price dropping in the EU for the card

still too expensive

[sharp star]

yeah no, that's still expensive for a 3080 equivalent

they were insane when they called it a 4080

[real edge]

in the US its still 800$ without sales tax

so this is cheaper than that if we take sales tax into account

[sharp star]

it's all partner models since there's no reference design

so yeah

[odd sand]

It's an odd card bc in some ways it's clearly sufficiently better than the 3080 and could demand the 800-900 price when you consider most 3080s were in the 850 range msrp

But then if you want to do 4K with it the lack of VRAM and bandwidth guts it tho

[real edge]

yea

XT is better there cause bandwidth

320bit bus over 192

its a 3090/3090ti in most games which is ehh

the 3070 was that to the 2080ti last gen

and costed like 550$

[royal forge]

GASP NHADALA POSTED THE FORBIDDEN GAEMMMM

[real edge]

ohh oops

[sharp star]

post another benchmark

[real edge]

I wanted to post benchmarks

[royal forge]

BAN NHADALAAAAA

HAHAHA im kiddin

Just teasin

[real edge]

no good catch it escaped my mind

[sharp star]

yes I know that game is AMD-biased but yeah, I just noticed lmao

[royal forge]

But i did hear it was unoptimized too?

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[sharp star]

it was but not like

Dead Space was better

[royal forge]

Is Dead Space bad?

Like performance wise

[sharp star]

the PC version is okay

[royal forge]

I was watchin Jesse Cox play and you can see the lag freeze

[sharp star]

you need to tweak it to mitigate some of the performance and graphics issues

[royal forge]

But it aint often

[sharp star]

for example it’s not whitelisted for ReBAR

[real edge]

devs should give you the option if you want a very slow first launch of the game for smooth performance

for shaders

[royal forge]

Ya mean sorta preload?

[real edge]

yes

[sharp star]

if you turn on ReBAR for Dead Space you can mitigate the traversal stutters

[royal forge]

But it cant be always runnin?

[sharp star]

shader compilation does not work yet

[real edge]

for my emulator games

you have the choice of downloading shaders

[odd sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054906950044885062/1073673359855988806/vpt96wjwi6ha1.png

[real edge]

and then they remain there'

[odd sand]

Looks like we found better idiots

[real edge]

for smooth performance and no stutters

[sharp star]

why

[real edge]

you do not have to download or preload them after the first time

[sharp star]

why would you do that

that image hurts so much

[real edge]

looks like someone dropped a lit cigar on their drive

[sharp star]

it gave me psychic damage

[odd sand]

Bc they didn't know what they were doing, but also were too lazy and stupid to watch a youtube video

It's an M2 SSD jammed into a PCIE power connector

[royal forge]

Ok... so.. i supposedly cant control my fan rgb unless i uodate my mobo bios

And ngl

Im too afraid to do it

[potent arrow]

Was this you???

[paper tusk]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/windows-11-could-replace-bad-gamer-apps-with-built-in-rgb-lighting-controls/

yay?

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwAHURPQ-s

[dull garnet]

better yet, don't have rgb

[sharp star]

Install OpenRGB and yeet all those RGB from your system

literally the only lights I have on inside my PC are status LEDs

[torpid kayak]

I jsut realize how big deepcold Neptwin is

I don't want that giga fan in my pc XD

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/pvdLey-8HTY just ask Corsair for their 500mm fan

[modern iris]

I had the NHD15 in my old PC. Also a very big cooler.

[golden stream]

It IS a nhd15

But no joke it cools well

[modern iris]

Yeah I would still use it if it wasn't to small for my CPU

[dull garnet]

you should put the middle fan to the front of the cooler

[torpid kayak]

is your cooler cool or cooler?

[golden stream]

Both, blth the cooler and the fan

Like the nhd15 is HUGE

Then again, noctua

[torpid kayak]

hm maybe I should check out noctua

nvm kinda out of budget

[dull garnet]

it wouldn't be worth it considering you have a cooler that is at least 90% as effective as a d15

[modern iris]

As I said I would still use it but my CPU has a TDP of 280W needed something with a bit more performance.

And a bigger baseplate

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-sarcastic-smile-king-gif-15896630

[hard drift]

Wtf did you buy that has 280w tdp

[modern iris]

5995WX

[hard drift]

you need a completely different class of coolers as most of the ones people use in here aren’t designed for those parts

[modern iris]

I know.

[hard drift]

@cerulean talon might be your best bet for those class of coolers

[modern iris]

I'm still using a Noctua tho

NH-U14S TR4-SP3 had to look up the name. They make great coolers but the names are the worst

[hard drift]

Lol

You only really need the u14s

Since tr4/sp3 corresponds to socket compatibility

[modern iris]

I know but there is also a normal U14S

[sly elk]

that sit/stand DJ console though

[modern iris]

ChatGPT is scared of my powers

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/ohIoDKMrcVw

Holy shit

[hard drift]

now lets hope this success leads intel to bring a good igpu soon

[cerulean talon]

You have good taste. :3

[dull garnet]

laughs in apple

[odd sand]

Fsck no...

[sly elk]

M2 mini ❤️

https://tenor.com/view/beret-proud-mac-mini-scaleway-gif-20252469

What is this nonsense

Lol

[dull garnet]

average apple user

[sly elk]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/mac-ijustine-love-youtube-gif-3566082

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/refund-no-refunds-our-real-slogan-is-no-refunds-apple-the-simpsons-gif-12745737

iJustine is awful

[bitter girder]

True

[dull garnet]

unlike apple silicon

[odd sand]

You need the 2nd one to accept the EULA on the 1st one whenever they update, obviously

(There was a thing a while back where the AppleTV for someone updated and needed an iphone or ipad to accept the new eula for some reason, and the person didn't own one lol)

[sly elk]

Yeah that annoys the crap out of me too!

I recall ranting about it here

I don’t understand why people keep calling the ecosystem a good thing. It’s the most vicious attempt at vendor lock in I’ve seen

“Those cloud services are great and all but if you don’t get iCloud I’m going to annoy the shit out of you!” - every iPhone ever

[odd sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNGeTCPPrMA

How is Asmongold going to compete with that perfect bedhair?

[modest moss]

mismatched GPUs

disgraceful

[modern iris]

Yeah right Gross

[sly elk]

i should dig out my old 90s computer

get a new low end power supply for it, and one of those ide flash adapter thingies

and go to town with windows 98 and chips challenge and uh

idk

[modern iris]

I don't have 90s PC's but early 2K. Still running with HDDs

[sly elk]

I haven't used a hard disk drive since 2014

hmm actually i do have a powerbook g4 with one

[sly elk]

\

[modern iris]

I use those PC's for some older games so the HDD in there is enough

[sly elk]

i hear that ^^

[real edge]

4070 and 4080 gpus dropped in price again in my country by 10-20 euro, so we're seeing a steady decline thankfully

4080: 1290 -> 1270
4070: 860 -> 850

7900XTX: 1180
7900XT: 960

[modern iris]

And I payed £1129 for the 7900XTX which is around 1272.74€

[real edge]

when?

[modern iris]

around 3 weeks ago

[real edge]

hmmm

interesting

I thought the UK would be cheaper

[modern iris]

Idk I just buy what's available

[torpid kayak]

my CPU/GPU tempeature varies 40-60

never check them before

so it is okay?

[modern iris]

That's totally fine

[dull garnet]

Below 90c is ideal

Above that you'll start throttling, and then shutting down to prevent permanent damage

More like 100c, but y'know

[modern iris]

I think intel does throttle at 110

[dull garnet]

Bruh

Yeah some Radeon running at 105 was described as "normal"

[modern iris]

Mine is at 40 - 70 sometimes hits 80 but still fine

[dull garnet]

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/296577-why-110-degree-temps-are-normal-for-amds-radeon-5700-5700-xt

[livid dune]

110c?

I start getting worried at 80c 😭

[dull garnet]

5700 were awful cards

[modern iris]

I mean new intel chips use so much power if they would do it earlier you can just clock them down by default and have the same result

[dull garnet]

x86 on suicide watch

[golden stream]

what kind of new normal temp is this

I even never set my stuff for more than 75C, unless rendering

[modern iris]

Mine neither. It's just the "normal" for intel cpu's and maybe older amd stuff "yes the 5xxx gpu series is older by now

[bitter girder]

The amd 5000 gpus were good but their drivers took ages to improve and their thermals are laughable

[modern iris]

When I had the stock cooler on the 7900xtx temps were ok but now it's water cooled.

[rigid hill]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cofrpbcpusx/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

😭

[dull garnet]

@bitter girder

[bitter girder]

I have the Apple version here

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoYuT3nJQP9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

@dull garnet @rigid hill

[rigid hill]

Disabled try again in 3 months

Gotta take the house to an Apple Store

And prove you own it

Wait the receipts are inside the house

[bitter girder]

Had to send my house away for repair

[rigid hill]

[dull garnet]

[bitter girder]

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-robot-sonny-hiding-subterfuge-gif-25954630

[torpid kayak]

late reply but not mine XD

[dull garnet]

o

[sly elk]

it appears the fractal north has displaced the lian li o11 as the official case of /r/battlestations

[dull garnet]

lets go fractal bros

pretty uggo imo

i'd rather get the torrent

[sly elk]

it's definitely not my style

but fractal cases never really have been

[dull garnet]

the only thing happening with that case is the wood

otherwise its a standard atx mid tower lol

[sly elk]

it's taller than it is long

i tend to prefer em long and low XD

[dull garnet]

Same as my meshify c

[sly elk]

the thing I do find neat is the front plastic trim doesn't taper inwards

like it does on your meshify and on the corsair 4000/5000Ds

and that taper is there because it's hard/expensive to mold plastic that doesn't taper that way

i suppose that's because the front trim of the meshify is one piece and the front of the wood case is multiple

[potent arrow]

I don't like that stupid fractal north ngl

Something about it pisses me off now

[dull garnet]

its fake succulent hipster tier

[dreamy chasm]

idk, i like the wood

and having different designs that don't actually thermally suck is good

[sly elk]

XD

fractal cases exude hipster smugness

"I don't need that childish RGB crap"

"I don't need water cooling"

"I just want a mature looking computer to match with my tasteful ikea desk and fake plant"

if fractal had a store they wouldn't let you in unless you were wearing an argyle vest

[dreamy chasm]

time to recommend the case out of spite

[sly elk]

20 year old, in college: "I'm mature and don't need RGB"

30 something with more money than sense: "So there was this RGB thing and it was cute so I bought it"

https://tenor.com/view/the-muppet-show-liberace-sam-the-eagle-facepalm-piano-gif-26347801

[golden stream]

Tfw rn RGB stuff is cheaper than non RGB

[sly elk]

it can't be, can it?

which ones?

non RGB fans will always be cheaper than their RGB counterparts

[golden stream]

No not fan

RAM

At least in my place

[sly elk]

hmmmj

[golden stream]

WHY TF RGB IS CHEAPER??????

[sly elk]

looking at amazon, for the most part it's a mixed bag

[golden stream]

Yeah....

Owait no amazon in my place lmao

[sly elk]

the cheapest 16gb ddr5 6000 stick on amazon with a heat spreader is not RGB

[golden stream]

At least not the DDR5, DDR4 price in my place is weird

While DDR5 is universally expensib and I'll not be early adopter

[sly elk]

but like the cheapest g-skill trident is also non rgb

and tbh ram is one of the places I really can't blame someone for not wanting rgb

of all the things RGB, RAM is the most likely to screw up

[golden stream]

Low profile RAM, SFF build, ded RAM ded RGB maybe both idk

[sly elk]

like if you use corsair rgb ram, the motherboard software can screw with it

[golden stream]

So you may like the non RGB one

Ya SEE?

[sly elk]

and rgb ram heat spreaders are often made out of plastic >>

which makes no sense

[golden stream]

wait wat rly

[sly elk]

well, there might be metal underneath

but at least like my corsair vengeance rgb ram? the outside plastic

and looking at a lot of the rgb ram out there, I'd bet most of that has a plastic shell too

which is straight up worse than using oldschool ram with no heat spreader

[golden stream]

Bruv sussy RAM

[sly elk]

haha it also means they can hide the chips

so you can'

you can't see who made the ram until you install it in your pc

[golden stream]

Mah pal asked me why I don't use RGB RAM now I have more reason

[sly elk]

this is using an oldschool metal heat spreader

not sure if it has a sticker covering the whole thing or not hahaha

[golden stream]

Nah, just printed on the metal sheet, the sticker is the barcode part

[sly elk]

and i might be wrong but I do think a lot of rgb ram has more plastic like

[golden stream]

That's better than the RGB plastic

[sly elk]

even if the non-light part was metal

[golden stream]

That's a lotta plastic ngl

The chips itself may suffer even if with metal bc encased in plastic

[sly elk]

even if only the light bar was plastic

it's still holding in more heat than if it weren't >>

Vengeance RGB DDR5 looks and feels like premium desktop memory. The 288-pin UDIMMs have attractive aluminum heat spreaders in white or black. Heatspreaders are important for memory so they can dissipate heat under an extended load.

all this said

[golden stream]

Light needs power, power = heat

[sly elk]

the corsair rgb ram I have is fine lol

when I built this computer, the set I bought was defective in 1 stick

they RMA'd it with no problems though, and replaced it with another set

but the original set had hynix chips and the replacement has nanya tech chips

so this isn't like, micron E-die vs samsung b-die

just striaght up random noname F-U-die

would i do it all again? ehh. maybe.

[golden stream]

Welllllll that's also the issue

Like sometime you can get micron E-die Samsung B-die or noname stuff WAITAMINUTE LITERALLY IRL GACHA?????

[sly elk]

lol

[dreamy chasm]

heat shouldnt really

be a major concern

for d4/d5

unless you're stuffing it in a hotbox

[golden stream]

SFF peep tho so yeah

[dreamy chasm]

you still should be using an sff case with sufficient airflow for it to not be an issue

main reason why cpus run hot in sff is because you're mostly limited to tiny air coolers if you aren't going liquid

[golden stream]

Ya ^

Even gon full liquid you need optimal setup tho

Then also some undervolt shenanigan but eh that another crack beside linux

[sly elk]

^ I'd think a case that has mesh sides and has a 240mm aio on one side and a gpu facing out the other side wouldn't have cooling issues

so color me surprised

[bitter girder]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CniCoAhKBPw/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Tesla slander so based

[sly elk]

at least they did it on instagram instead of twitter

[bitter girder]

@deep sapphire we need to make a Sony slander account

[deep sapphire]

BRO

[jaunty light]

wrong

[deep sapphire]

MY FUCKIN HEADPHONES LAST AN HOUR

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

AND THE CHARGING CASE LASTS MAYBE 6 HOURS

LIKE HOW THE FUCK IS IT THIS BAD

[jaunty light]

skill issue

[deep sapphire]

you literally only like bad products

[jaunty light]

or i dont have skill issue

[dull garnet]

do you know how long my headphones last

[modest moss]

as long as mine

[dull garnet]

forever, they have wires

[modest moss]

forever

[dull garnet]

[modest moss]

winners

[bitter girder]

Get the AirPods Pro’s already

Stop suffering

[dull garnet]

[jaunty light]

gross mac spotted

[sly elk]

wait you're just powering them off a laptop?!

where's the $300 pile of schiit

[dull garnet]

cringe

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/keeping-up-appearances-hyacinth-bucket-good-heavens-no-gif-11699659

[dull garnet]

the macbook powers them just fine

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-ugh-gif-20293894

lol never had a more perfect use of those gifs

i also power my headphones like a savage off the laptop/desktop/mic/whatever has a headphone jack lol

[sly elk]

reminds me of antoine from sonic satam

not sure why though

[bitter girder]

Oh god

It’s her

[sly elk]

now i wonder who she is

[dull garnet]

nah its not arc

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-gif-26526179

Mysterious Neko X from Fate/Grand Carnival

[sly elk]

i really should watch all the other fates

i've only seen babylon lol

[dull garnet]

cringe

[jaunty light]

topping bros

[dull garnet]

Carnival Phantasm / Fate/Grand Carnival are basically comic relief with Fate characters, they're fun

[dull garnet]

you probably have something good with a balanced output tho

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/logging-on-to-onto-discord-gif-24147491

i've been a fate fan since f/sn (06)

widely regarded as a horrible adaptation and cheaply animated

[jaunty light]

just a30 pro

[sly elk]

i shit you not my dac/amp is just an elgato wave 3 mic lol

laziness ftw

[dull garnet]

what do you use for dac?

was watching a video about the dac/amp in the m1 mba and some guy in the comments said he was powering hd 800 off of it

[jaunty light]

goxlr out

[sly elk]

heh i wonder what the MBA uses

[dull garnet]

genuine f/sn 06 screencap

[jaunty light]

you can power hd800 with basically anything they aren't demanding so that doesnt surprise me

chonky

probably should've gotten a pentaconn because that's actually usable, but you know

[dull garnet]

nah xlr is cool

[sly elk]

the 2 red square are TI audio amps

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/waynes-world-gif-9423140

speakers on this thing are excellent too

best pc i've owned

[dull garnet]

[deep sapphire]

god sony is just DOG SHIT

SONY

AMD

FORD

ALL BAD

[dull garnet]

hey they made good crt like 40 years ago

[deep sapphire]

APPLE

CHEVROLET

[jaunty light]

mad because bad

[deep sapphire]

INTEL

GOOD

[dull garnet]

you forgot nvidia :(

r-right

[jaunty light]

hank: has trouble with every product he touches because he's a hillbilly

[dull garnet]

are airpods actually gud

i bet they don't even have an in-line remote

[jaunty light]

I DROPPED THIS SONY DOODAD INTO OIL N IT STOPPED WORKIN

[sly elk]

airpods are .. ok...

when it comes to sound quality, they are what they are

[jaunty light]

NO APPLE PRODUCT OF MINE WUD QUIT WERKIN AFTER A LIL OIL BATH

[sly elk]

and I think they're only worth the like $89 you can get the regular 2nd gen airpods for

[dull garnet]

[jaunty light]

nice dong..le placement

[sly elk]

I own a couple of dongles myself

[dull garnet]

kudos for the updog m'brother

[dull garnet]

two usb-c and a 3.5mm

[jaunty light]

heckin updoot bröther

[dull garnet]

that's all i have

[sly elk]

oh i still have a bag of sweetwater candy from mchristmas lol dangit

those are the dongles i happen to have in my desk drawer

[jaunty light]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnR1mcQKctz/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

[dull garnet]

hey i bought the cable matters dp one the other day

[sly elk]

usb-a 3.0 to usb-a 2.0, usb-c to usb-a, usb-c to displayport, lightning to usb-a, lightning to 3.5mm

I have at least a usb-c to network, and I miiiight have a usb-a to network laying around from work too

[bitter girder]

Finding a usb c to display port was a fucking nightmare

[dull garnet]

fuckin dp 1.2

[sly elk]

admittedly i'm not sure what version of dp that thing supports

[dull garnet]

they claim 1.4

[sly elk]

mm yep that's the one

[dull garnet]

and i'm getting 1440 165hz fine

so i'm inclined to believe them but i don't have any real way of confirming

[sly elk]

unrelated but my wave 3 came with an awesome like 10ft usb-c to usb-a cable

i doubt it does usb 3.2 speeds though

I have a few of these for that exact reason https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XMY49BM

[bitter girder]

Ooooooooooo

[dull garnet]

nani sore

[deep sapphire]

I AINT NO HILLBILLY I LIVE IN THE PLAINES

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

BUT BOY LEMME TELL YA THEM NEW OBD2 COMPUTER SYSTEMS IN OUR VEH-HEH-CLES ARE INSANE YOU NEED THEM SNAP ON COMPUTER SCANNER DEVICES YA KNOW BACK IN MY DAY WE JUST PUT A STICK UP TO THE ENGINE TO HEAR ODD SOUNDS

[jaunty light]

true

[sly elk]

yea but at the same time, thanks to all these new fangled dang computers, now you can get 400hp out of a v8 without a turbo, and without getting cancer from smelling the fumes all the time

car wire harnesses do suck though

gosh dangit

why does yelp hate my ip address so much lol

[bitter girder]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnvDkcYDohL/

Fuck car slander memes are good

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

[hard drift]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHKNK84Y?&linkCode=sl1&tag=videocardz-20&linkId=730960e8fcd02241131b641792754455&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl an arc aib card

[torpid kayak]

lol I play a 2D Unity game that keeps on stuttering D:

[sly elk]

i wonder how oc-able the intel arcs are

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

[royal forge]

The fuck is this hillybilly talk

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ybaue-qUL8 the unholy trinity

[livid dune]

what's that, 3 GPUs at once?

[sharp star]

yes

he elaborates on how it works

[dull garnet]

Driver soup

[modern iris]

I mean back in the good old times it was quiet normal to have different gpu's in your PC.

Also I tested the AV1 encoder now on the new AMD card. I love it. Saves around 2 - 5 GB per episode from a Blue-Ray so it probably will save me a couple 100 when I'm done with everything

[potent arrow]

VERY EARLY MORNING IM GOING TO POST SOUNDS OF MY KEYBOARD WHILE MODS ARE ASLEEP SHUE IS NOT HEAR TO STOP ME

[modern iris]

Red switches?

[potent arrow]

imm go cry now

[modern iris]

I only use blue idk

[potent arrow]

they are definitely not red switches

[modern iris]

or bucking spring but that's a bit older

[potent arrow]

they are neopolitan

[modern iris]

Never heard of that before

[potent arrow]

uh very much enthusiast's tactiles

https://cannonkeys.com/products/neapolitan-ice-cream-switch

they also look cute

[modern iris]

I have a unicomp keyboard @ work idk best keyboard for typing. At least my opinion.

Pink <3

[potent arrow]

I have a seperate board for work

This is the one I keep on my desk bahahha

the work keyboard are topre switches so I dont bother others

[modern iris]

I just have to ask my boss for a keyboard that I want and then I can go and buy it.

[potent arrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829360065055031316/1073028954052640869/20230208_185258.jpg?width=688&height=1222

nom nom nom

[modern iris]

rn I have this one at work
https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/NEW_M

[cerulean talon]

It's still super normal.

iGPU + PCIE GPU is still super normal.

Unless you're in ryzen land.

And not buying G's.

[modern iris]

based on the layout I would guess US?

[potent arrow]

ive hadnt had an igpu in years

[potent arrow]

like where I am? canada.

[cerulean talon]

I've got a bunch of G's for "servers"

[modern iris]

Yeah that what I thought

[potent arrow]

I have spare 1050s for that

[cerulean talon]

Mostly so I don't have to drop a GPU into it.

I'm out of PCIe slots. :P

[potent arrow]

: P

[sharp star]

don't Zen 4 CPUs have iGPUs

like, all of them

[modern iris]

When I had a Ryzen I never bought the G version. The older G variants had fever cores than the regular ones. I think they fixed that in the later ones

[cerulean talon]

No idea, I haven't gotten a zen 4 yet.

[modern iris]

yes

[cerulean talon]

I mostly needed more PCIe slots, so it didn't matter. :D

Cores were not my limit, 16x pcie's were.

[modern iris]

My CPU now doesn't have an iGPU either. But more cores than you can wish for.

And all of those PCIe lanes

[potent arrow]

Someone my friend ran out of PCIe lanes

[cerulean talon]

Oh the wx?

[potent arrow]

he wont tell me how

but im afraid to ask

I didnt think it was even possible lmfao

[cerulean talon]

Architecture:                    x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):                  32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:                      Little Endian
Address sizes:                   43 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
CPU(s):                          128
On-line CPU(s) list:             0-127
Thread(s) per core:              2
Core(s) per socket:              64
Socket(s):                       1
NUMA node(s):                    4
Vendor ID:                       AuthenticAMD
CPU family:                      25
Model:                           1
Model name:                      AMD Eng Sample: 100-000000314-04_30/16_N
Stepping:                        0
Frequency boost:                 enabled
CPU MHz:                         1201.110
CPU max MHz:                     3000.0000
CPU min MHz:                     1200.0000
BogoMIPS:                        3200.12

Need those goodgood cores.

[potent arrow]

Meanwhile me

[cerulean talon]

That chip of course, doesn't have an igpu, but it's got a GPU on the mobo, so we gucci.

[sharp star]

hopefully I can spoil myself and get a 7900X3D + mobo + RAM for berfday

[modern iris]

yes

[potent arrow]

This is currently my favorite chip

[cerulean talon]

ships Sarah one of the spares.

[potent arrow]

but its getting dated

Can I have a spare pcie lane

[cerulean talon]

Nomnomnom epyc

[modern iris]

I don't know why they won't just put more PCIe lanes in the consumer cpu's makes me mad that I had to spend so much money on a CPU just to put all my stuff in

[cerulean talon]

I still need to order more ram and disks for that machine. One of these days.

[cerulean talon]

That's why I just built multiple machines.

[modern iris]

I am at the limit of the slots but I also think 1TB of RAM should do for now

[cerulean talon]

Literally, my 3 g series ryzens are just 16x lane expanders.

That's all they're doing is hosting cards.

[sharp star]

Probably gonna get a B650 instead

Or just a regular X670 if need be

[potent arrow]

I really want to upgrade but uh

monies

[cerulean talon]

I'm waiting to see if AMD wins me back again.

[modern iris]

Moneys are hard to get by

[cerulean talon]

I'm happy in intel land atm.

[potent arrow]

im very on the edge about intel rn, just waiting to see if they have better sff options coming from AMD

[modern iris]

I don't like the new intel chips with there P and E cores. Bad for VM's

[potent arrow]

I aint building a bigger system

oh right that, idk how i would even provision E and P cores

[cerulean talon]

Oh yeah, I wouldn't put VM's on this thing.

[potent arrow]

if its even possible

[cerulean talon]

It's just the desktop.

Everything else is ryzens or epycs.

Or xeons for one of my sff system's.

[modern iris]

I have VM's on my main PC and the server and I need them so no P and E cores for me.

[cerulean talon]

Ah.

I've been actively moving stuff off my desktop now that there's almost no perf hit going across our network.

[modern iris]

My first ever "real PC" had a Xeon E3 1231V3 in it

[cerulean talon]

Once I get the epyc fully online w/ it's shiny splittable GPU, I'll be moving more GPU accel apps to it.

[modern iris]

I run on linux and have VM's. VM's everywhere.

mostly for work stuff tho

[cerulean talon]

Makes sense. I moved away from VM's pretty heavily and just deploy a new machine for work projects.

No isolation issues, no worries about resources, and once it's done I can ship the disks and be done with it.

[modern iris]

I sometimes need it for my co-workers so we can see the same desktop and I don't want to share my private one or they have to finish smth from @ home and don't have a PC. That's why work payed for most of my private PC as well

[cerulean talon]

Ah.

Can't say I've ever had that particular issue, but makes sense in that aspect.

[potent arrow]

meanwhile me sitting here with a 15 year old exsci machine in the basement of my parents house

[cerulean talon]

Also, it feels like my blue changed. I can't decide.

[modern iris]

Also funny thing. Before I joined the chat I went to the doc. Guess who got the covids

After 3 years of not getting it and 2 boosters

[potent arrow]

that I set up when I was way younger, and im afraid to upgrade because I dont remember how it works

[dull garnet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9yIE2sdniYY?feature=share

[modern iris]

offf

[cerulean talon]

Truth.

[potent arrow]

Im too dumb

idk how it works

[cerulean talon]

I'm pretty sure m aggressive recycle of hardware is the only reason I don't leave that footgun loaded.

[jaunty light]

wouldnt recommend doing an upgrade anyways

^^

[cerulean talon]

Never not upgrade. nods

[potent arrow]

its got plex, home assistant, sonar/radar mess, a few ubuntu vms for school and a random docker thingy that I dont even know why it shows up

[cerulean talon]

Just rebuild everything every 6 months >.>

[modern iris]

Anyone here tried the AV1 encoder on the 4xxx series yet? I an only talk for AMD.

[cerulean talon]

The only issue is finding somewhere to dump all that data.

[modern iris]

I'll take it. I horde all the data

[potent arrow]

oh and the freenas thing that runs on it

[jaunty light]

lockstep into vendor certification

[potent arrow]

I want to run ZFS some time

[cerulean talon]

Hello hording buddy. :3

I hate ZFS, I really do.

[jaunty light]

inb4 they yeeted support for your submodel of server and now your scsi, fc, and what else isnt supported

[modern iris]

I'm on my laptop rn. Don't have acces to all the shares on here

[cerulean talon]

I've tried to like it multiple times, but it just drives me nuts.

[cerulean talon]

Needs sizes!

[modern iris]

Can show later when I manage to get up again and turn on the PC

[cerulean talon]

It's never just the number of shares, it's the tb's in em.

.>

[potent arrow]

: (

[golden stream]

not sure about AV1 on AMD tho but know that nvidia and intel can wotk

[cerulean talon]

Who's using scsi or FC these days?

[modern iris]

All together around 90TB I think it was.

[cerulean talon]

Need more storage. :(

[jaunty light]

if you run physical you are

[modern iris]

I haven't added more in a while. But also the poor CPU in there that has to manage all the data XD

[cerulean talon]

Ah true, using an auctual FC SAN.

5950x is driving the biggest shares on my network.

Then a big chonky qnap.

[modern iris]

Nah it's all on a tiny little R5 1600

and only 64GB of ram but it's ecc

[cerulean talon]

 snipa@artik  ~  df -h
Filesystem                    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev                           32G     0   32G   0% /dev
tmpfs                         6.3G  3.3M  6.3G   1% /run
/dev/nvme0n1p2                456G   82G  352G  19% /
tmpfs                          32G  2.1M   32G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs                         5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
/dev/nvme0n1p1                511M  3.5M  508M   1% /boot/efi
/dev/nvme2n1                  1.9T  398G  1.5T  22% /nvme
/dev/sda                       73T   54T   20T  74% /tank

Btrfs.

[modern iris]

Butter FS

[cerulean talon]

Ayup.

Still don't use raid 5 on it.

[modern iris]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1990s-battle-programmer-shirase-XKSPsk67cnCw0

[potent arrow]

mmm I wonder what the minimal spec system i can build rn to make a jelly fin server for fun

I got some gen 1 ryzens somewhere....

[modern iris]

should be fine.

[cerulean talon]

Tbh, a gen 1 ryzen should run most things still.

[modern iris]

U just need enough RAM

[jaunty light]

gibs 100tb storage

[cerulean talon]

Yeh, as long as you don't choke the encoder in CPU.

[cerulean talon]

Done.

[jaunty light]

NVMeOF too

[potent arrow]

im more worried about a gpu

[modern iris]

I have an NVMe in there too for VM's

works all fine

[cerulean talon]

We don't need that access rate, we're chunking over 10gbit max.

[jaunty light]

100GbE baby

[modern iris]

weird thing is u get error msg from true NAS when running VM's on HDDs

[cerulean talon]

Not worth getting the switches for as many machines are on our network.

[modern iris]

same

[cerulean talon]

LACP 2x10's and that's more than sufficent for our internal usage.

VM machines just get their own hard drive arrays and we shunt backups to the main stores.

[modern iris]

I don't even have a switch. My MB just has 2x 10G ports so it's just a setup thing for me. Only running 2 machines.

And my internet is only 1.1GB down

[cerulean talon]

Unifi sent me 2x my order at one point

[graceful sparrow]

my game just crashed twice and blue screened

[modern iris]

FF I guess?

[cerulean talon]

So I got 2x24 port access layer 10gbe's, 4xLRAP's and 2x 2.5gbit POE's.

[graceful sparrow]

yup

[cerulean talon]

For half the price.

:D

[modern iris]

The game bluescreened or the PC?

[graceful sparrow]

the pc

[modern iris]

Hmm changed anything?

[graceful sparrow]

no

[modern iris]

on the hard or software?

[graceful sparrow]

got this

[cerulean talon]

Nvidia driver issue?

[modern iris]

Looks like one

Could try a clean install

first DDU than new driver