technology-discussion

[proven spade]

I bought an AX1600i, it not being ATX 3.0, does that mean I will be forced to buy a new PSU with the new standard (3.0) before my future upgraded system maxes/reaches out 1600W ?
like, is it future proof or did I make a really bad purchase ?

[umbral moss]

ATX 3.0 just comes with native 12VHPWR?

[proven spade]

not only that

[umbral moss]

and better surge handling

[wicked turret]

no you dont need the change it, dont give a fuck about ATX 3.0 on PSU

[umbral moss]

if your PC isn't really pulling near that much power the raw overhead is probably fine, I doubt you're near redline lmao

[proven spade]

Intel forced manufacturers to change other things too, higher capabilities overall

[umbral moss]

ATX 3.0 is more about ensuring at-the-limit PSUs don't brown out, mostly

[wicked turret]

Btw, 1600W .. you are crazy mate a 4090 dont pull more than 350W, and with some light tweak on the power limit, she fall to 260-270W in 4K ultra on all games.

[proven spade]

this PSU will be at 55-60% load when all components work at 100%

[umbral moss]

yeah, and your transients will probably be like 1400W, max

I doubt you're going to be pulling 2000+

[wicked turret]

gaming :
13900K : 150W
4090 : 350W
4090 Pl tweak : 270W
Other: 50W
If you reach more than 500W in gaming it's a miracle
And your CPU will never be a 100% load at the same time than the GPU exept in stress test like OCCT Power

[umbral moss]

yeah, but running a suicide test does what it says on the tin

furmark is literally designed to kill GPUs

[proven spade]

true

[wicked turret]

4090 on furmark dont goes above 370W btw

[umbral moss]

you also rarely see 100% CPU utilization unless you're doing like, prime95

[wicked turret]

but you can reach 600W when you go dumb with max PL and everything, but that's useless

[umbral moss]

and if you're going to be doing some kind of heavy compute function 24/7 you should be optimizing your perf/W with settings

[wicked turret]

that depend on the data size

[umbral moss]

instead of leaving it to just suck 1500W at the wall all day long

[proven spade]

when threadripper sees prime95 on the horizon, it sweats

[umbral moss]

RIP your poor outlet

[wicked turret]

small data a 13900K can reach 350W, medium or large data, he will never go above 250W

[umbral moss]

like a crypto miner will run the GPU heavily de-rated to maximize profit/hr

since the coin return has to be more than the cost of running the stupid thing

ain't gonna be profitable pulling 600W per GPU

[proven spade]

it's also digital, can read how much each component pulls

can change between single and multi rail too, but i'll always have multi on for the OCP

[umbral moss]

I've been hearing that single rail is preferable for these super high power demand GPUs

[jaunty light]

most schizo ads on yt today

[umbral moss]

since you don't get as much vdroop off the single rail and you don't risk pulling down a rail too far

[proven spade]

single rail is superior for overclocking

[umbral moss]

tell me more about that lithium induction equation

[jaunty light]

the ad was more insane

[umbral moss]

the math is nonsense too lmao

C = Gm1m2/r^2 is literally just defining gravity as C

what the hell am I seeing

[jaunty light]

it was a USB charger that overwrote your phone OS and used AI to optimize the electron flow and speed up apps

[proven spade]

it's the opposite, multi rail provides that protection

[umbral moss]

multi-rail only does that if you have other devices on the other rails

but multi-rail has less current per rail

so when you crank up the power demand on a single rail, ripperoni pepperoni

[proven spade]

yup

[proven spade]

exactly

if i was doing LN2

single >>>>>>>> multi

but honestly i'd rather have OCP everywhere

these components are too expensive

esp the GPU

[vague snow]

@deep sapphire

all these bunch of errors was 2 days ago on 18

then happened the critical

and then yesterday was the day 19 one

without all these errors first

this is what the error that appeared many times said

[modest moss]

Have you used DDU and then reinstalled graphics drivers?

[vague snow]

is the gpu thats causing it?

is it*

idk if you saw my situation shue

but basically yesterday and before yesterday

[modest moss]

I believe nvlddmkm is nvidia related

[vague snow]

the pc basically freezes completly/restarts by itself

but was only once a day

during these 2 days

when i was playing 2 different games

and wasnt even doing much in game

on day 18 all got frozen couldnt do any had to force restart and on 19 screen went black and froze(i assume it did couldnt tell since all got black) and pc restart by itself

[real edge]

what is your gpu temperature when gaming?

[vague snow]

idk

[real edge]

if your gpu is old have you repasted it?

[vague snow]

i dont see

gpu isnt old

just got it last year at summer

lol

[real edge]

hwmonitor is good for that

also, download DDU and reinstall your drivers in safe mode

[modest moss]

^

that error is definitely nvidia related, hopefully it's just drivers rather than failing hardware, but at least it's new enough to be under warranty

[vague snow]

which error?

the critical on?

[real edge]

the one you showed us

[vague snow]

or the bunch of error ones?

that say same

[modest moss]

nvlddmkm

[vague snow]

but yesterday didnt appeared that

weird

[vague snow]

isnt there way to use nvidia installer to "replace" drivers

[modest moss]

that's a lot of events all the same

yes but DDU is better

[vague snow]

i kinda dont like using "third party" stuff

[real edge]

DDU gets rid of all the crumbs and pieces

[vague snow]

if i can use nvidia one

[real edge]

the nvidia installer leaves behind

it completely cleans out the drivers

[modest moss]

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

read that guide, follow the instructions

[vague snow]

but how do i know which to delete?

[real edge]

and you have to use it in safe mode to prevent windows from just downloading new ones when you uninstall your old ones

[vague snow]

or keep

[modest moss]

read the guide please

[vague snow]

idk how to do that safe mode

cant believe my gpu is whats actually making my entire pc freeze and restart by itself

lol

[modest moss]

you might be better off finding a local professional and having them take a look

[real edge]

your gpu is what is making your tower display stuff on your pc

[vague snow]

but how can that freeze my pc entirely?

lol

and restart by itself

isnt that cpu?

that does that

if overheats

[modest moss]

a faulty usb device can do that

anything pretty much can if it's broken

[vague snow]

dont think gpu is broken tho

its new

probably driver conflict i guess

[modest moss]

ok, I'm backing away from this then

[real edge]

the drivers are what are making the gpu run properly

you DID uninstall your old drivers before you installed the new ones for your new gpu, right...?

[vague snow]

i did a clean windows install

[real edge]

ok then

[vague snow]

funny enough

pc didnt freeze yet

i aint in a game so

[real edge]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/start-your-pc-in-safe-mode-in-windows-92c27cff-db89-8644-1ce4-b3e5e56fe234 download DDU, use it in safe mode, you can enter safemode by using the guide here that I linked

[vague snow]

if it does the same without being in a game is it also the gpu?

[real edge]

disconnect your internet, install the new drivers you downloaded before you DDUd your old ones, then reconnect

[vague snow]

ok well wish me luck then

if it solves it or not

[real edge]

👍

just as a reminder for the future, what I am mentioning is troubleshooting 101, ppl do it all the time if they get a gpu issue to see if it was the drivers

[vague snow]

i see

ty

😄

[modest moss]

I think you said this back to front mate, DDU old ones before installing new

[real edge]

no

wording is a bit weird but

[modest moss]

oh I reread it, I get it

my bad

[real edge]

yea

[proven spade]

@wicked turret what's this 2.4GHz thing i see on wireless mice ?

[wicked turret]

the connexion frequency, when you have a dongle for the mice, you are on 2.4ghz

[proven spade]

and what's the frequency on 5+ BT ?

is it worth to reduce your battery life by half

just for increasing ur frequency?

[wicked turret]

forget the BT

you will have trash latency

[golden stream]

for XIV it's prob fine as BT

for esport yea nawn

[wicked turret]

2.4ghz wireless match the wire latency btw

[white bolt]

@real edge can you please help me; whats a good ultrawide monitor

[modest moss]

[wicked turret]

budget ?

[real edge]

budget?

[potent arrow]

[white bolt]

anything below 1k

[wicked turret]

34-38-49"' ?

[modest moss]

Nhadala I'm right that you like being pinged about monitors yeah? Just checking

[real edge]

yeah

[modest moss]

kk good

[white bolt]

no idea what that even means

[wicked turret]

the size

[white bolt]

oh

[modest moss]

how big is your space

[white bolt]

let me go get a ruler

[wicked turret]

49" is fucking enormous, 34-38 inch stay ok

[white bolt]

ive got 51 inches of space

[modest moss]

49" is a good sized 4k tv, huge on a desk

[real edge]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw3423dwf

[wicked turret]

hard to get a 1K€

[modest moss]

@tame fulcrum which UW monitor did you end up with?

[real edge]

ohh europe

oof

that changes things

but it should be possible to get that in the US for 1k$

[white bolt]

tf is that E?

[wicked turret]

where you are ?

[real edge]

european currency

euro

[white bolt]

im in the great us of a buddy

🦅

[modest moss]

easier

[real edge]

check the alienware for price

[wicked turret]

The Alienware is the best out there with Oled panel, but 1K 🤔

[real edge]

cheap ultrawides are not great, midrange ultrawides are not worth the price and expensive ultrawides are oleds

[wicked turret]

Cheaper and still fine you have the LG 34GP950G-B
and good budget ultrawide you have the Dell S3422SWG

[lost python]

lots of talk recently about alienwares suffering with burn-in though

[real edge]

it has a 3year burnin warranty

[lost python]

lots of people gonna make use of it

[real edge]

but yea midrange, LG makes a lot of good stuff

but pricey cause ultrawide

[lost python]

just dont get samsung. they have too many issues

[wicked turret]

The 34GP950G-B is not midrange 🤔

[lost python]

midrange specs, high-ish end price

[wicked turret]

🤡

[real edge]

midrange specs, premium price cause ultrawide

[lost python]

reacting with the clown emote doesnt change its specs

[wicked turret]

Very good IPS panel, 180hz, very good response time ..

[lost python]

all 3 things arent that uncommon anymore, even for cheaper monitors

[modest moss]

it's £700 here

[lost python]

its not worth almost 900€ with those specs

[real edge]

you can get that at 300-400$ without ultrawide

[wicked turret]

900€ ???

More 700€ mate

[modest moss]

I'm still super happy with my 27GP850-B though

[real edge]

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Monitor-Display-Response-FreeSync/dp/B08JWCHR5N

[lost python]

i dont see it anywhere for less than 800

[real edge]

300$

[modest moss]

the LG is $899 USD on LG.com, $960 on amazon

[lost python]

?

[real edge]

but yea, there are many new oleds coming out this year, if you want an ultrawide worth the price its better to wait for those but if you want one right now, the alienware is the only one that might be ""worth the price"" now, but even that is expensive

[wicked turret]

like you say, without ultra wide

[white bolt]

[real edge]

new ones might be cheaper

[dull garnet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kPyZwGYOGE4?feature=share

Lol

[potent arrow]

My friend's board I built him for Christmas 🤣🤣🤣

Still need to find good keycaps

[deep sapphire]

Would ya look at that

All those cooks in the kitchen jumping to conclusions last night when this lead us down the right path

[modest moss]

very occasionally nvidya will go wrong

[umbral moss]

nvidia drivers are the #1 cause of windows bluescreens, even in 2023

[deep sapphire]

More so my point was everyone in the universe was throwing their 2 cents in when I stated to wait and check logs before we did anything else and people continued to do it

I may make a soft rule about that in here, we don’t need 8 people throwing their 2 cents in to help someone giving wildly different answers it’s just annoying

[modest moss]

we should push people to make #952326072542847016 threads, nobody else checks those pretty much

ask basic shit in here sure, and buying advice

[deep sapphire]

Yeah agreed

[modest moss]

if we get stumped we can always tag people in

[deep sapphire]

Need to find a basic troubleshooting flow chart and throw it in pins

😂

[potent arrow]

Gl

Been doing this shit for years

There's no saving yourself from stuff like this

[modest moss]

don't worry Sarah you're one of the people I'd tag in

[potent arrow]

[modest moss]

it is both compliment and curse, I love it

[potent arrow]

I just realized I did tech help in not FFXIV discussion

I need to run to Alaska where I do not touch tech

Or where people can't find me

[modest moss]

uninstall discord

[potent arrow]

People have my phone number

[modest moss]

toss your phone

go off grid

[potent arrow]

Full ludite

[modest moss]

build a log cabin

part of me would really love a log cabin out in the wilderness

[potent arrow]

I wouldn't mind

I miss going camping

[modest moss]

it would be too much hard work in reality I expect, but the notion is romantic

[potent arrow]

We can share

[modest moss]

sitting by a log fire drinking tea and reading

sounds pretty great

[potent arrow]

I would love some proper English tea

[modest moss]

you build the cabin, I'll make the tea

[deep sapphire]

What the hell is tea

[modest moss]

don't worry we'll have coffee too

[deep sapphire]

Thanks babe

[modest moss]

and hot chocolate

[deep sapphire]

[modest moss]

the tech retreat, it'll be wholesome af

[deep sapphire]

[modest moss]

just simple things like books and playing cards, maybe dice

[dull garnet]

Spill the tea

[deep sapphire]

We can play spades

[dull garnet]

I rolled back from the latest Nvidia driver earlier

Fortnite was stuttering a little

[modest moss]

I'm like 4 versions behind, they work fine

Driver Version: 526.86 - Release Date: 2022 November 10

[dull garnet]

2 versions

Oh no 4 haha xd

[deep sapphire]

[dull garnet]

damn my boost clock is stable

[bitter girder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/566413914330497039/1063609184182083594/245A61FD-C114-4E27-B25A-93601DD4B4F4.gif

[vague snow]

@real edge well drivers didn’t do any

And then I putted windows 10 clean install

Putted gpu driver and all

Downloaded game

And while I was on it

There was audio stuttering/freeze for 2 secs

Then back to normal

Left game

To go event panel

And screen went black and restarted by itself

-.-

Then when logging on my session

Mouse wasn’t responsive

And went black screen yet again

And restarted by itself

😫

Idk what is happening

Tbh

Idk what it can be

@deep sapphire kill me

🤣

[modest moss]

it might be worth reseating both your ram and video card

[dull garnet]

burn pc

buy a new one

hope this helps!

[modest moss]

double check the gpu is getting enough power, ie. the cables are firmly clipped in

[wide hill]

so windows 10 still had the same issue?

time to install windows 11 again

[deep sapphire]

I’ll kill you

With kindness

[wide hill]

it does kinda sound like the power supply is dying though

ngl

even if cables are seated or not

[modest moss]

possible

[wide hill]

gpu should not make a pc crash when unplugged

it would be like if were disconnecting a monitor

[deep sapphire]

Well here’s what I will say

Go to a store

Buy a PSU

One sec

Getting ice cream

[modest moss]

What flavour

[wide hill]

vanilla?

[modest moss]

vanilla is the best flavour

[deep sapphire]

Vanilla with Oreo

Anyways

[dull garnet]

vanilla psu

[deep sapphire]

Try out the new PSU make absolutely sure you hook up all connectors correctly. DONT mount the new one in the case just leave it on the side or something. Run some stress tests and if it seems fine for a few hours you could probably rule it a PSU failure

If not, return it and get your money back

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/p3G5IXn0K7A

Technology

Smh where embed

[wide hill]

the discord gods has removed your powers

[dull garnet]

remember when you could embed videos to autoplay on forums

fuck yeah

[deep sapphire]

Ur old

[dull garnet]

I REMEMBER BEFORE YOUTUBE

[deep sapphire]

Ancient

[dull garnet]

i remember the first video i watched on youtube

[deep sapphire]

You need 1000 posts before you can do that

[dull garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRgNOyCnbqg

lol

[deep sapphire]

There are people in this discord of that age in general

How does that make you feel

[dull garnet]

that's messed up

[deep sapphire]

Stop having KIDS

And stop SNOWING

[vague snow]

Tomorrow I will clean pc

Might just need some cleaning

If it continues then ye probably psu or cpu are dying

Or maybe cpu needs paste

[dull garnet]

unlikely

[modest moss]

highly unlikely it's just cleaning required

did you check temps?

[wide hill]

oh yeah, there is a thing with cpu's that will just shut down if it heats gets extremely high

[astral flint]

soooo

I'm debating between these 3 choices for a gaming moinitor

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/49--odyssey-g95na-gaming-dqhd-led-monitor-ls49ag952nnxza/

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/55-odyssey-ark-4k-uhd-165hz-1ms-quantum-mini-led-curved-gaming-screen-ls55bg970nnxgo/

[bitter girder]

fuck i hate super ultrawides

[astral flint]

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/samsung-neo-qled-4k/43-class-qn90a-samsung-neo-qled-4k-smart-tv-2021-qn43qn90aafxza/

wym?

so far I haven't had issues with the monitor I've been using

but yes I see alot of reviews with quality issues

honestly my first pick was the Odyssey Ark, but I think the technology isn't quite there yet

I wouldn't be against it

[deep sapphire]

Yeah Samsung displays have had questionable quality control issues lately which is weird being they’re they biggest maker in LCD panels

[astral flint]

the samsung representative I was speaking to told me there would be updates but he was pretty vague and didn't answer my issue with the fact that it doesn,t offer windows multi monitoring

thanks

I'm considering the tv based o nthe fact that it has the same technology as the odyssey ark for the most part

[deep sapphire]

Stop texting and driving

[astral flint]

do you think I would have satisfying response time for FFXIV as an example?

[hard drift]

It’s only for their monitors which is weird

[hard drift]

No you

[deep sapphire]

First it’s AMD 3600s next it’s Samsung

When will the madness end

[hard drift]

???

Who said anything about 3600

[dull garnet]

you

[hard drift]

I didn’t though 😭

[deep sapphire]

I’m a great driver wym

[kindred brook]

https://github.com/zhudotexe/FFXIV_PaissaHouse

[dull garnet]

surprised your chevy can go that fast

[kindred brook]

how do I install

this plugin to dalamud

[deep sapphire]

That’s what everyone else said kek

[dull garnet]

[umbral moss]

that sounds about right for samsung

[deep sapphire]

It’s got abunch of custom work done to it

[umbral moss]

they had a quality revolution in the early 00s and had a big surge in consumer confidence

[hard drift]

And still rusting

[dull garnet]

2JZ under the bonnet

[deep sapphire]

Well yeah

[umbral moss]

so they got lazy about it and are back to being a dumpster tier OEM

[deep sapphire]

It’s a Chevy

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/chapelle-charlie-murphy-laugh-gif-5588639

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-prince-ring-basketball-stare-gif-17669710

Game…

Blouses…

[astral flint]

I guess I will have to buy that tv to figure it out x3

[dull garnet]

i imagine any tv made today is fine for ff14

input latency wise

[deep sapphire]

I got a magnavox made in 1995 that’ll work

[dull garnet]

come on hank you know crt input lag poops on anything modern

[deep sapphire]

Wow found the elitist street fighter 2 turbo guy

[dull garnet]

i used to play rhythm games so i have never not owned a crt

[deep sapphire]

OSU it’s okay

[dull garnet]

ew no i don't touch kids

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/Yt6PPkTDsWg

[dull garnet]

iidx

you play on a pad?

[astral flint]

and that's your alienware screen?

[astral flint]

and how do you feel about using this?

https://www.lg.com/ca_en/monitors/lg-38GL950G-B

and what about this one?

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-omg-gif-26491199

[astral flint]

thanks alot for your help

lol what makes me go back to samsung is their new sound technology

which is the only reason I consider the tv I linked or the Odyssey Ark

I have no clue how close/far I will be lol

[bitter girder]

get the alienware ultrawide

for the price its a fucking steal

[astral flint]

lol, I don'tk now how I will set up my room and stuff

I'm only moving in 2 months and I have to buy furnitures too

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-34-curved-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw3423dw/apd/210-BCYE/monitors-monitor-accessories

is there really an upside to this model vs the one you linked?

[dull garnet]

the F is the newer model

can upgrade firmware i think?

[hard drift]

go for the F, it allows upgrades to the firmware and is cheaper

[astral flint]

also why is the 38' model the one with a fast charging usb input also the model wit hthe weakest performance?

sorry I have so many questions lol

[bitter girder]

dell moment

[astral flint]

freesync premium pro is better then gsync ultimate?

[hard drift]

it's a lot better assuming they update shit for the monitor

gsync disables doing that AT ALL unless you send it back AND something has to be wrong with it

[astral flint]

thanks!

and what do you think of Asus oled monitor?

thanks for your help @tame fulcrum I appreciate it

[sharp star]

Fractal with their Pop cases in the distance looking confused

[lime wasp]

Question: is it bad for AIO tubes to sit like this?

[hard drift]

not really but what is that orientation

[lime wasp]

I dunno why the phone took the picture that way

If you mean the pump it won't fit tubes left, looks bad tubes down and tubes right interferes with RAM slots

[hard drift]

i mean that's fine as long as the radiator is higher than the cpu

so this part is above the cpu

for longevity sake

[lime wasp]

Yes

[hard drift]

good

then it's fine

[lime wasp]

I was just worried about the tubes because I've never had to twist them this way to make it work

[hard drift]

i mean you can twist them however you want so long as they are below the highest point of the tubes

[astral flint]

mines are not optimal kek

[kind ginkgo]

Rip off the plastic pls

[astral flint]

yeah after I move

me before buying pc parts "I don't want RGB gimmicky parts"
me shopping pc parts "damn feels like nonrgb parts are costier then rgb ones"

(not entirely true)

[potent arrow]

Imagine your pc not being a small shoebox that emits more heat then a space heater

Couldn't be me

[astral flint]

one min mine blast 120°C heat and the next it feels like I'm in antartica

[dull garnet]

his gpu is actually hotboxing

[deep sapphire]

no dont listen to Lance ||of the East||

jk that looks horrible

take it off

[lime wasp]

I love ITX but trying to cool high-end parts in them now is a nightmare

[potent arrow]

get good

[lime wasp]

GIT GUD DOESN'T NEGATE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS!

Like, for example SIZE.

[potent arrow]

we have plenty of tools to deal with heat

Ive been building sff for years and this is just more stuff you gotta look out for, but really its more of the same

[lime wasp]

If a GPU is 304mm long and cases only take 300mm, it ain't gonna work.

[potent arrow]

yes...thats just sff....

nothing to do with cooling...

[lime wasp]

Cooling is also an issue though because asking 280mms to cool modern CPUs AND some GPU is a lot

[potent arrow]

Not to mention a lot of newer sff cases are acomodating for bigger gpus and some even have double rad support

My case does support double rads, which I know ill have to use for the new build im planning

SFF has always been a pain in the ass, its not really gotten worse or better.

[lime wasp]

....is there even an ITX case that will fit a 4090 other than that one Optimum Tech used? Actually he had to use an FE 4090 which are the smallest ones too. What about an AIB 4090 like the TUF or ZOTAC?

[astral flint]

lol I know it does, but since i'm going to move in 2 months I'm keeping htem on to protect my case

[golden stream]

Yesssss kinda
The 4090 not fit in M1 iirc

There's the ssupd seems may be able to fit (don't take my words too serious tho)

[astral flint]

according to rtings though, it says the alienware has risks of permanent burn-in though

[burnt swallow]

@real edge I has been told you know a thing or two about monitors

[real edge]

whats up?

indeed

what kind of help do you want?

[burnt swallow]

I have absolutely no idea about anything over 1080p

Soon™️ I'm going to have monies and I'd like a 1440p monitor

[real edge]

first of all I got to know your budget

[burnt swallow]

My budget is my tax return when I get it

[real edge]

uhh

there are many displays across many $ ranges

[kind ginkgo]

Around 400$ should be enough for a 2k 144 ips

[real edge]

there are oleds for 900$-1000$

or good LCD displays

for 300-400$

[burnt swallow]

I don't think I'd need an oled display for anything

If they're that much

[sly elk]

there are also nice 4k/5k/6k graphic-oriented displays for >>$1k but they only do 60fps

[burnt swallow]

I have a RX 6800 XT it'd probably cry if I got a 4k display

[real edge]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-M27Q-Monitor-Display-Response/dp/B09VH8B1XW?th=1

there

[burnt swallow]

I just want a 1440p display for gaming so I can make my current 1080p display my second monitor for YT and Discord

[burnt swallow]

[real edge]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q-x

[burnt swallow]

It doesn't have HDMI 2.1 but I assume it has DisplayPort 1.4?

[real edge]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gp850-b

https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GP850-B-Ultragear-Compatible-Adjustable/dp/B093MTSTKD

[real edge]

yes

I recommend the Q X over the LG but you cannot go wrong with either

[burnt swallow]

price hidden

[burnt swallow]

Am I paying $50 more for 240Hz vs 165Hz

[real edge]

here are the differences

Q X = Better colors, better contrast, 240hz

LG = Better motion handling

[burnt swallow]

Wdym motion handling

[real edge]

LG :

Response times

Q X:

also videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDPq0uHNTyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItPCOFR5xuU

these videos are very informative

watch em :3

[burnt swallow]

[real edge]

or if you want to splurge

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gr95qe-b

[real edge]

[burnt swallow]

I definitely don't need no $1k monitor

[real edge]

makes sense

but anyway you cant go wrong with either one

the Q X is better but you are paying a bit more for it in general

also make sure to check other sites besides amazon

to see if you can find a better deal

[sly elk]

i've never used a gigabyte monitor, but LGs do have much better antiglare than dells...

[jaunty light]

||pg27aqn||

[jaunty light]

guess who has laryngitis again

[sly elk]

sorry to hear that 😦 -gives a cookie-

[jaunty light]

hard cookie crumbs get stuck in throat, dies

this time isnt as bad, its just paralyzed but i dont have inflammation

last time it was like 3 or 4 weeks of extreme inflammation

[deep sapphire]

stop trying to die

those spark plugs need you

[jaunty light]

yeah I was totally gonna do it yesterday but I died

now that i know it aint covid i can strap up

should I embrace the succ or take the wheels off and drop the front end

[deep sapphire]

or just get rid of it and buy a chevy

[jaunty light]

🤔

I did almost buy a silverado 1500 from my uncle

Lol that fuel filter I bought is getting here today

[sly elk]

when it comes to gm trucks, i still have a soft spot for the last gen escalade

it still had a column shifter

wait why'd it have a column shifter?!

i like that it has the exact same center stack our xts has hahaha

[jaunty light]

escalade huh

buy me a blacked out escalade

[sly elk]

lol look like a random executive

just stick a sticker on the back bumper that has TCP some number like TCP8675309

and everyone will think you're some random exec getting shuttled around in a black car

[jaunty light]

I saw not an escalade but a suburban that I'm certain i could break into for free guns

[sly elk]

lol

[jaunty light]

bunch of punisher stickers and the license plate was 1776something

[sly elk]

ironically, the gun shop in my neighborhood

the owner drives some kinda gm suv

because i sometimes see it parked there with big stickers on the side advertising the shop

i can't remember which kind, probably a gmc

[jaunty light]

i have a gun girl sticker that's it

gotta replace a few because they delaminated and look like shit

[sly elk]

usually a gun enthusiast would have a yukon not an escalade

the escalade owner might also be a gun owner

[jaunty light]

escalade is bougie

[sly elk]

but the yukon owner is more likely to be vocal about it

which is hilarious to think about, because i usually see people saying they'd rather have a yukon instead of an escalade because they think the escalade is too nouveau riche

but at the end of the day, they both probably cost about the same

75k for a yukon denali, 80k for an escalade

and oh yeah I'd pay that 5k

[jaunty light]

lol

[sly elk]

although

touch controls on the cadillac 😦

[jaunty light]

this is where we pull out an entire shotgun

[sly elk]

lol

[jaunty light]

and whatever this shit is

[sly elk]

but damnit I like the aesthetics of the cadillac way better

yea that is...

i hate that shifter

from this angle it's not that bad, and I do like the physical air controls

those are nice

better than the old one

why did they design the center stack to look like rolling luggage

[jaunty light]

got some sweet intern working on it

[sly elk]

hehe

[fair parcel]

that dash is massive

and a teeny little screen

[deep sapphire]

that was before it got a refresh

that interior was heavily criticized and I have no idea wtf GM was thinking

they just took the 2014 interior and kept in into the 2019 redesign

much nicer

[jaunty light]

center console knob

disgusting

[deep sapphire]

you can get console shifter too

unlike ford or ram

[sly elk]

that's the truck though, or did they put that in the tahoe, too?

they stuck the yucky gmc interior in the yukon, too

[deep sapphire]

yeah, it looks the exact same in all the trucks of that era

the tahoe and suburban got a refresh sooner than the trucks did though

that interior was brand new for last year

[bitter girder]

Fuck me I need a brew

[jaunty light]

what kind of brew

[bitter girder]

Black tea, a drop of milk and a tea spoon of sugar

[jaunty light]

disgusting

[deep sapphire]

fuck that scared me

kek

[jaunty light]

are tehse experts on mutts or something

ah yeah that's a 73% german shepherd mixed with 20% poodle and 7% pit bull!

[deep sapphire]

Why aren’t you asleep

[jaunty light]

its 0400

[deep sapphire]

Late

[jaunty light]

i woke up at midnight

[deep sapphire]

Oh

[jaunty light]

its a nice 31f

fingers gonna get frostbite

[bitter girder]

@deep sapphire https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnpQ3DyItYR/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[jaunty light]

"so like crazy story, I turned on that thing, the.. the light thing, that you use for turning, and then like the sidewalk railing DIDNT MOVE for me to go through it???"

[bitter girder]

They didn’t log on to twitter

[dapper nymph]

attempting to do a clean reinstall for the 2nd time since several months ago with warframe

is this thing meant to automatically install even though it's dated

yes, i did use ddu and this thing reinstalled itself while i was getting the new drivers

[dull garnet]

Windows will pull an approved driver if no drivers are detected

Usually when I run ddu I disable my network adapter so it doesn't do this

You can go ahead and update to the latest if you want though. That driver is from August 9th 22

[dapper nymph]

should i run ddu again after installing 528.02

[dull garnet]

I wouldn't worry too much about using ddu again unless you're having problems

Or downgrading

went from dual channel single rank (2x8GB) to dual channel dual rank (4x8GB), look at these huge gains

[jaunty light]

the important thing was getting to 69

[dapper nymph]

i give up if i crash again in ff14

[astral flint]

it's funny, I drive a BMW and I feel like I'm the only person on the road who uses blinkers

If I buy a 3.1 soundbar (just an example) and add more speakers eventually. Will it be considered like a 5.1? Or it will always remain a 3.1 soundbar?

[dull garnet]

adding more speakers won't change the soundbar

you'll have a 5.1 setup though

[astral flint]

that's what I thought, but I do appreciate the confirmation

thank you

[glossy ravine]

I have a car from 2010, I don't think I'll be able to buy a Blu-ray music player. (Assuming I can even find one that's compatible) and that's not even counting an install.

Makes me kinda sad

[dull garnet]

was that a thing?

my friend bought a final fantasy x soundtrack and it came on a blu-ray, seemed kinda useless lol

[dapper nymph]

memtest had an issue with my memory freezing up at 3200 mhz, lowered it all the way down to 2133

hopefully it doesn't have an impact on rendering videos too much

and etc

[glossy ravine]

Well. Technically any Blu-ray Player can play music. Even the PS3 can.

[dull garnet]

I get that but when you're expecting a CD to rip to flac it isn't very useful

[glossy ravine]

It's just that because of how things work, if I want to listen to said music outside of like. Using Spotify, my PS5 cant do anything else but play music.

[dull garnet]

yeah I guess PS4 and 5 can't read CD at all lol

[bitter girder]

classic sony

i swear the console has the laser for it aswell

they just blocked it via software too lol

[dull garnet]

they don't

[bitter girder]

i swear the ps4 did

[dull garnet]

nope

[glossy ravine]

It's neat to play the Endwalker soundtrack on PS5 tho

[late basalt]

Laser wouldn’t mean much iirc, so much as the encoding being “foreign “

[dull garnet]

CDs don't have region encoding

audio CDs anyway

[late basalt]

Not region, data

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire

[deep sapphire]

Get in deep ford boy

[glossy ravine]

Do Car Blu-ray Music players even exist?

[wide hill]

just get a portable blu ray player and tape it front of the deck

[hard drift]

https://www.qualitymobilevideo.com/dvbr-1208.html this was what i found with a quick search so yes they exist as for how reliable they are idk

[dull garnet]

isn't that for dvd/blu movies

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/terrific-elijah-wood-gif-3906482

[deep sapphire]

I have those craftsman screwdrivers and they are dog shit

the small ones, the tips all broke off kek

my fuckin harbor freight ones held up better

im buying wira next time

[jaunty light]

these are ancient

[deep sapphire]

oh are they vintage craftsman?

BACK WHEN DA SEARS SOLD EM TOOLS YESSUM

[paper tusk]

so they destroy your hands in the name of AMERICAN STEEL

[deep sapphire]

USA! USA! USA!

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-25588769

[jaunty light]

if i had to guess they should be around the 30 mark

although the brand new ones look exactly the same so

only got the first 4 so far and it's been easy breezy too bad i have to do the annoying ones now

first 2 coils on the passenger side were corroded

[glossy ravine]

Because like.

My car's CD player thing is particularly large.

Not sure how a Blu-ray Player would fully fit that hole.

Not to mention the whole wiring situation

[odd sand]

Isn't 1R better to have than 2R bc it puts less strain on the memory controller and less seek latency?

[odd sand]

tacky analog clocks in cars

My least favorite thing about Infiniti but im sure there are other luxury brands that do the same heh

[dull garnet]

Yeah, my dimms are single rank. I imagine that is better than four dual rank dimms though. Two single rank basically = dual rank

[odd sand]

Shaft inserted into plastic handle in the USA, probably.

[deep sapphire]

Milwaukee usually makes pretty good screwdrivers so h opefully the new USA made ones are good too

[odd sand]

Just saying the term "Made in USA" has a lot of wiggle room bc you can legally use the term even if only final assembly is done in the US

[sly elk]

It's a sebring

[odd sand]

Ship a dishwasher over with the door loose, bolt door on. Dishwasher now made in the USA.

[sly elk]

that clock is neat because it only ticks once a minute

idk how/why it works that way, but it does

could be worse. Could be one of those little green LCD clocks toyota used forever, where the backlight burns out after 3 years

[odd sand]

Digital analog is why. School clocks are often that way. Only tick forward on the minute

[sly elk]

hmm

the school clocks where I went didn't tick

they just had a second hand that constantly spun without ticking

[odd sand]

Mine would go ka-THUNK to click forward to the next minute

[sly elk]

ya different era of clocks 😄

these were probably like 1960s

[odd sand]

I wore a watch so I could know the exact time bc we only got like 4mins between classes

[sly elk]

yea I hated that

especially if you had class A and B on opposite corners of campus

[odd sand]

So sometimes you had to haul ass and 45secs was the difference between using the bathroom quickly and being late heh

[sly elk]

oh yea the hell with that, I use the bathroom

[odd sand]

My freshman year I actually squatted in a 2nd locker by my math class bc it was physically impossible for me to get there with my books in time

my HS was built like a crescent moon shape and gym was wing A, my locker was in wing F and math was in wing C

You couldn't physically go from A to F to C in 4mins. Especially with "no running in the halls"

[sly elk]

i never had a locker because they had this policy that bothered my mom & I

was something like, if your books were stolen from the locker you were responsible for getting the books replaced and the locker repaired

[odd sand]

Although I did have a loophole to that: Before I got the 2nd locker I would head out the exterior door at the gym and sprint like a madman across the parking lot and enter at F wing to grab my books, then speedwalk to C

You wouldn't be able to do that these days though bc the whole campus is locked down now and they have the airlock at the main entrance with a security camera and when you're let in it only sends you into the admin office not the rest of the building.

Even tho the HS is in a preppy area of the suburbs with no crime out there

[sly elk]

yup

some schools here do that, some don't

the HS I went to instituted such a policy at some point, too

doing that seems like a real shit idea lol

[odd sand]

I had a friend with 4 periods of art seminar his senior year and the art teacher would let them go out and grab coffee in the middle of the day. He didn't care as long as they got the appropriate number of art pieces done for the semester

Treated it basically like a college course

Some students would stay 1-2hrs after school to work on stuff before driving home etc.

[glossy ravine]

I mean this car is from 13 years ago.

[odd sand]

Sure, but I'm fairly certain that's still common to see in current luxury cars

[glossy ravine]

Like. It's a miracle that I even have this car.

It was in great used condition, like 50k miles and only like $8,000.

Anything else in that price range had well over 100k miles.

[jaunty light]

get vessel JIS

[deep sapphire]

13 years?

thats brand new!

[glossy ravine]

It does also have some minor cosmetic damage

[deep sapphire]

my truck is 32 years old, just keep er filled with oil and you'll be fine

[bitter girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867113976403591188/1066499212914728980/Screenshot_2023-01-21_at_23.27.02.png

[deep sapphire]

HAHAHAHAH

[bitter girder]

fuck i love this character

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire whoever said passenger side was harder are fools

[deep sapphire]

driver side got the brake booster and what not huh

[jaunty light]

final 2 on driver side are obstructed yeah

directly above the coil pack bolts

[jaunty light]

wryyyy

[kind ginkgo]

Good lighting

[jaunty light]

got the coils off but ran out of daylight

[paper tusk]

you'll need an adapter to go down to regular 1 DIN headunit

otherwise it's same difference with a wiring adaptor like every other aftermarket radio

only other thing of note is how deep the hole is if there's a brace in the back or the ducting for HVAC

[jaunty light]

oh i didnt even..

@deep sapphire

i could leave them all in tbh

[deep sapphire]

good boy

using OEM

[jaunty light]

yea not anymore

[deep sapphire]

ACDelco > Motorcraft

[jaunty light]

NGK gang

[deep sapphire]

NGK is for japanese make you nerd

[jaunty light]

SUPERIOR SPARK PLUG FOLDED 1000 TIMES

[deep sapphire]

YA SURE

HAVE FUN WITH POORLY GAPPED PLUGS AND MISFIRING

[jaunty light]

i already have misfires sucker

[jaunty light]

besides I gapped them

and the acceptable range for oem is like 44 to 55

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/machine-moving-engine-gif-15750205

[jaunty light]

Drives down the street whew time to replace the spark plugs again!

[odd sand]

So you have one of those engine bays where it's designed to look cute and not work on anything huh

The Black Box

[modest moss]

honk is your anime truck broken?

[jaunty light]

no

[burnt swallow]

@deep sapphire how much do you know about bluetooth

[deep sapphire]

lmao like the shittiest spark plug you can buy

[deep sapphire]

enough why

[burnt swallow]

I has question for you later

[deep sapphire]

mmmk

[burnt swallow]

So basically

I have wireless bluetooth earbuds

And they keep having this issue where they like disconnect for half a second and then my audio rapidly fades back in over the next half second

And sometimes they do it multiple times in a row and you can hear that like kind of electric click sound idk where the audio disconnects

[deep sapphire]

how many devices have you paired them with

[burnt swallow]

My phone

[deep sapphire]

just your phone?

do your earbuds have a software update available?

[burnt swallow]

As far as I'm aware no

Nothing pops up on my phone for it

[sly elk]

When I had a hemi it used 16 of them lol

I think they were every 30k miles or something too

[burnt swallow]

I know it's not my phone because it has no issues with other bluetooth devices

[deep sapphire]

check if there is an app for your earbuds

and then see if there is a software update available

[sly elk]

I did it a couple times at least

The last time I did it I could do them in like 40 mins

[deep sapphire]

if not, then contact the company for additional support and possible RMA

[sly elk]

I love a nice serviceable engine bay

[sly elk]

These suck because they do that because it’s cheaper than making it to look good in the first place

[jaunty light]

2 per lol did it have cops

[sly elk]

I’ve only seen it a few times

Like SRT8 cars used to have an amazing engine bay for a cheap ish car

Otherwise you only really see it on like corvettes and super cars

[deep sapphire]

I dont even think Corvettes use 2 plugs per cylinder

its pretty uncommon

but they're cheap enough anyway

[odd sand]

I think I usually bought NGKs for my Saturn

[sly elk]

isn't that a good way to get a check engine light?

i might be thinking of the 4-way spark plugs

nvm it's not those

bosch platinum+4 lol

[odd sand]

Whatever I got was just regular copper ones bc Saturn. For the Mazda6 I think they recommended iridium

[sharp star]

Is it me or has Mudfish been unstable over the past few days?

[burnt swallow]

Not only are their apps rated under 3 stars on the play store because they don't work but the earbuds I have aren't even on their website

Guess I'll just buy new ones when I get monies

[torpid kayak]

what is standard for PC gaming nowadays?
Back to my days building a PC, it was full HD and 60 FPS

[paper tusk]

depends on what are playing, and on what you're using as a display

e-sharts is going to prioritise frame rate above all else
MSFS 2020 is going to aim for 30fps no matter what res since it's not exactly high action
the rest of us are going to want 1080/1440/2160 at 40+fps, preferably 60 fps (with no significant lag/rendering spikes)

[deep sapphire]

I'd say the middle of the road most people aim for is 144hz 2560x1440P with medium/high settings

but depends what you play yeah

I only say medium/high settings because most people now days are playing competitive games where lower graphics settings not only improve frame rate but can give you an advantage

[potent arrow]

I made a clock...

[sly elk]

neat neat

mechanical clocks 😮

[royal forge]

Not playin 1000 fps at 8k smh

[deep sapphire]

ikr

[odd sand]

This is Johnny Everygamer:

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Only 15% of people on steam are playing at 1440p

IMHO I would say a reasonable setup to aim for is still 1080p @ 120

Up to you whether that is pure 120 or with RTX

Diving into the numbers for a better summary: Intel CPU at those base clocks would be something like 10400/11400/12400f Intel CPU (6 cores), 45% of people in Nvidia x50 or x60 class cards like 1060, 1660, 1050ti, 2060, 3060

Higher end gamers then yeah, shooting for 1440p @ 120-144fps. And the very high end gamers going for 4K @ 60fps or higher, depending on RTX/DLSS.

[paper tusk]

or just be a dumbass like me and just play at 4k for the sake of it

[odd sand]

Paissa living that 4K @ 5fps life

[odd sand]

If Linus is shilling winget in the latest video, does that mean it's not hot garbage anymore?

I tried using it about 18mos ago and it didn't even verify uploads, so ppl were putting malware on the official beta test repo

[sly elk]

gg lol

that is a problem with things like pip

[odd sand]

It's 2am so ill do it some other time, but the Quake Mode thing for the terminal seemed really useful

And I remember my friend showing me Oh My Posh/zsh a few months ago

[wide hill]

the only issue i notice, is that on some very few installers, don't have a quiet-mode install, so you have to go trough their menu

[jaunty light]

spin the wheel of what sickness I have, still negative for covid

bet I got pneumonia again

god: i see you took the spark plugs out of your vehicle, have a very die

[deep sapphire]

again

damn man need to cut back on the cheap cigs

[jaunty light]

lol

then again i had bacterial pneumonia and felt fine, i just had a 104 fever

this just feels like flu but with a closed throat

and laryngitis because why not

aint gon stop me from putting the last 2 in today and changing out the fuel filter

imma drink some gas to put some pep in my step

[royal forge]

Drink coolant to bring down ur temp

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-ridiculus-pour-gif-5581000

[royal forge]

Wheres that vid of some girls fillin a tesla with gas

[fair parcel]

lol

saw one the other day and she was tearing apart the trunk

[dull garnet]

you guise seen those electric mustang

what a shitbox

[deep sapphire]

Yeah

Hideous

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[modest moss]

I don't hate them nor do I like them, they're just generic cars that I'm unable to have strong feelings about

They have wheels and seats and they'd get you from a to b probably

[dull garnet]

Just shouldn't be called a mustang

[modest moss]

yeah if you told me that was the new escort I'd believe you

[dull garnet]

Looks Mondeo-ish

[modest moss]

aren't they longer? idk

it's generic rep car though yeah

[bitter girder]

@deep sapphire

[dull garnet]

War chad

[bitter girder]

got him some drippy glasses

runs around limsa with tank stance active

[dull garnet]

Only class I have at 90

[modest moss]

Slacker

[dull garnet]

I am a ~casual~

Haven't had a sub since August

[small hedge]

When creating a free trial account to play through xivmac, do I choose windows or mac as my platform? Cause i heard xivmac uses windows?

[modest moss]

@sharp star mac nerd batsignal

[sharp star]

either/or

[modest moss]

thanks

[sharp star]

hell you can use a Steam license on XIVMac

[odd sand]

I think the 2nd year ones look okay with the actual faux grille instead of the solid fill from 1st year

[odd sand]

What's the catch? Why is it marked down so much? https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-PRO-Gaming-Headset-Comfortable/dp/B0943KKQJX/

[slow wedge]

Anyone also using a arc GPU finding different settings do nothing for fps
I.e scenarios where switching hbao quality to standard net my 6600XT 10 fps does absolutely nothing for the a750
The a750 at 3440x1440 max does perform better in general then the 6600XT tho

[dull garnet]

something something bottleneck, maybe

[sly elk]

oo an arc gpu. neat!

[sly elk]

league of legends branding

logitech put all the LoL branded stuff on fire sale

the matching keyboard and mouse have been selling dirt cheap as well

(the mouse for $50)

[odd sand]

OIC. Friend just asked for headset recs to give to her sister to run D&D with

[sly elk]

yea I don't know how good it is, but i loooove the color scheme

[odd sand]

I like that the frame looks to be thick metal so thats good

[sly elk]

i don't play league but 10/10 i'd buy that if I needed one

also for $52 I don't think you can do that much better lol

that's the same price as the hyperx stuff

[odd sand]

Yeah probably a memory bandwidth issue or something then

[slow wedge]

I got the a750 for $350 AUD so it's around $70 cheaper then a 6600XT or like $150 cheaper then a 3050 here

[dull garnet]

sheesh

[slow wedge]

NVIDIA is overpriced everywhere but in aus AMD is always wayyy cheaper

[bitter girder]

yeah amd is fucking class till you run into driver issues

im still pissed about my 6800xt

[dull garnet]

so pissed you went mac

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/waste-money-pc-mac-creatives-gif-13761045

^ iirc that ad campaign kinda backfired a little

it wasn't nearly as successful as the 'switch' campaign lmao

https://tenor.com/view/ellen-feiss-gif-11543489

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-pod-dance-gif-11790727

[sly elk]

^ that was by far the most successful

ha there's an ars article about the ellen feiss commercial

The campaign featured numerous different "episodes" but the Ellen Feiss was the most popular by far and it even gathered somewhat of a cult following among sketchy, Mac-using adult males. I do admit the commercial had its moments, and to this day I sometimes break out with "and it was a really good paper" during Ars staff meetings—Ellen did make several humorous noises during her 30-second spot.

^ these guys have it all wrong lol

[dull garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPEIo0LLHQ

[sly elk]

2002 i was about the same age she was lmao but everyone thought she was a stoner and it was funny because she sounded like a stereotypical stoner chick

ooo i gotta watch that

[jaunty light]

old filter spilled crystal clear gas out both ends so prolly didnt need a replace

[sly elk]

the funny part about it

[dull garnet]

wait that's the wrong video

[sly elk]

is the dude on the left could totally be "linux"

totally

[dull garnet]

there was one with the linux person being ginger

[jaunty light]

was a mexican motorcraft filter tho

[sly elk]

nice lol

[jaunty light]

was at least like.. 7yo

[sly elk]

must've been using some clean fuel

where do you normally get gas?

hehe i only take my jeep to mobil and arco. it's not because I am a brand snob, it's just the two most convenient places for me to get gas

[jaunty light]

basically nonames 75% other 25 is chevron or shell

[deep sapphire]

I cant wait to do my fuel filter tomorrow

god that thing is so old

my truck idles like shit I am almost certain its cause the fuel filter is fucked lol

time to test out my cool metrinch set

270 dollar set

buy me this

[jaunty light]

cut it open

[sly elk]

I bet that thing costs the same as a new colorado lol

sure is pretty though

[hard drift]

oh no, ketchup is the budget thermal paste 😭

[royal forge]

But ketchup has sugar in it

Will the caramelization affect thermals?

[hard drift]

it was a 5 minute test in furmark so idk

[bitter girder]

ketchuo

[modest moss]

wd40 not in test, cannot take seriously

[hard drift]

that sounds like asking for a chip to die

[sly elk]

yea that's always the problem with thermal paste lol

like you're not just looking at temps, but how long those temps last