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Also, if memory serves right, CAN would be slightly nicer for the type of work we do, so we'll never see it.
I actually hate it
Probing I2C interfaces with unknown everything is fun. ;3
Yeah.....
Totally didn't destroy some vregs doing that.
Still have a sleeve of the replacement chips on my workbench.
Rip registers, some embeded engs weeping somewhere
AMD has a fetish for using chips that don't have datasheets in their power supply design. (Thanks IR, y'all really helping)
I 3D printed myself pez dispensers for opamps, Schmitt's, shift regs and a few other things
So you can buy the chips, but can't get the datasheets.
Because I blow the up so often
Bahahaha.
That pleases me to no end.
Also, I'm annoyed I never considered something like that now.
Never played w/ them, but my HW design experience is years out of date.
So that's not surprising.
Well it's hardware
Nothing has changed
Let's be real
Same concepts, just smaller and more efficient
Sort-of?
Signal conditoning wasn't nearly as much of a concern when your data rate was bps.
Concepts are similar, but the scale of what needs to happen has changed some imo.
The transition to lots of digital signals I think is the biggest change I missed, as I did more with analog, then only some digital processing.
It was far more jank back then with analog
Yeah.
Interesting.
Some day I'll have to get back busy into embedded design, it's been too long.
Not that I don't have a stack of items on that list, but yanno.
\o/ Seems like it'd be a fun field to get into these days.
The tools and everything are way cooler than when I did my first boards.
Still give me an old Tektronix crt oscilloscope
That shit looks cooool
Definitely not fast enough for what I do though
My roomie's got an old portable CRT one, that's like an old military radio style. Looks neat AF, dunno if it works.
If only my subaru would drift more. :3 But you're not wrong.
Give me a welder and your diff and I can make it happen
Noplz. I'll get a beater for /that/ level of abuse. :p
Lmfaoo
Fuck I just remembered, I have a 49gb pysql database sitting on a USB for that elevator

The table grows.....
I'd make a delete sql reference, but I'm also overhauling a SQL interface right now.
I'm so inept at programming beyond C and assembly I cannot be helped
I always love how powerful SQL is
But also how absolutely dog shit it can be
Golang is my goto for everything these days.
And yes, that's 100% correct all day long.
The one I'm working on has some fun quirks.
"fun"
Very fun quirks
Mmhmm.
Not sure about that.
have mercy on me if I ever touch db2 again
This is more ORM weirdness than auctual SQL problems.
I love raw SQL, ORM's make me want to die.
OOP anything makes me want to die
Not wrong.
I'm technically a system administrator, so the idea of OOP was difficult when everything resolves to a linear process anwyay.
Your fancy oop abstractions don't mean anything to my CPU core.
That's literally what my prof said 🤣🤣🤣
Everyday I get closer to being the world's most inept halfass full stack
There's something to be said for oop, multi-threaded setups, etc, or you can just write good code instead.
I'll never be full stack. UI's are /not/ my thing.
With enough coffee and know how, you can definitely delegate multi threaded stuff with c
coughs BOOTSTRAP
Sure, I know plenty of people that do.
But that doesn't mean I want to touch it. :p
The only thing I havnt learned enough mobile app stuff yet to be really a half ass full stack
Also, I'm so bad at HTML, I can barely make CSS work, much less remember how to use divs properly.
90% of my HTML is bad copy/pastes, unlike the rest of my code which is all neatly hand-crafted.
Html is just copying from the bootstrap documention
And writing tags on a sticky note
Using JS for backend is super easy now too
I combine JS and PHP for database stuff and that's it
I've done my share of JS, never again, thanks.
But like I said, I'm half ass I know 50% in each category and that's it
I'll stick to Go or Python if I'm not doing it in go.
At this point I almost use golang as a scripting language despite the fact it's compiled.
Sorta-ish. It's designed with more of a pythonic touch.
But it's also designed around the idea that multi-processing and multi-threading should be "easy"
Don't hate me, but I really dislike python lol
So many people in my field use it for embeded applications and it's become a huge crutch
It's not for everyone, I like it more than PHP, but that's not saying much. I do hate how it's written usually.
MicroPython I assume?
Nope straight python
Ah.
So sorta-emebeded.
I always have a hard time if I want to consider a modern SoC as "embedded" or not.
But yeah, that's stupid if people are using that w/ python over some proper uc's.
It makes sense, but it annoys me.
My clocks are precious, don't waste them.
As I sit here and rip out layers of abstraction in this codebase...
Yeeee. That's the good stuff.
And these Motherfuckers
Complain they get their designed turned down because it's a rpi zero with a lipo tapped to it
And it's running a full OS and a million python libraries
Like????
The first time I saw cubemx, I was shocked at how powerful that was.
They put some super cool tricks in there.
Pin reuse by changing the hardware spec? Yesplz.
That's modern computing though. Most companies prefer the fastest thing to market, no matter how sloppy and inefficient. Even if it's more expensive than a proper embedded solution
It's insanely powerful
Most places I've been in want the old fashion way, atleast in my experience
And I can hate that alllll day long. I always prefer to write code that's highly efficient.
Tfw I can turn a pin into practically anything is just beautiful
Boom! Suddenly an interupt pin! Oh? I need this to be a direct to reg? Easy
It's completely absurd, and I love it.
Yarp.

That's the codebase I'm working on too.
Discord libraries are a doozy
I've got another 2-3 before this refactor is ready to test.
Esp. with the new slash shit
We've lightly discussed how to move kupo to /'s .
But uh, that's not gonna be easy.
Mostly, yeah.
I think there's enough primitives that you can get /close/
But chaining them properly is gonna be absurd.
Hnnng
Not the first time I've done something stupid like that. :P
Though, I really want to consider a new architectural design for discord bots in general, so we'll see if I seriously work on that.
Sometimes I feel like I want to write a c++ wrapper for discord api
And then I remember I'm a nonce
Nope, nope nope.
LOL
Noooope.
There's so many footguns in that API.
Also, the amount of JSON parsing required would make C++ die.
Netcore would auctually be reasonable.
The golang one is passable-enough.
I just love tracing kupo and seeing us burning 30% of his processing time parsing json.
Thanks discord, for being great and using json over websockets.
There's probally a half-decent netcore one somewhere.
Discord has a pretty good chunk of libs.
Dinner time
Time to throw it, and you in the freezer.
Along with all your .net insanity
That, I can't argue.
Hrm, I just ran into a function I prefixed with zzz_
Clearly, I'm doing something stupid.
"Helper" "bot"
Filthy cheat
Ban
Reporting to STF
Deserved
Would you believe I never got jailed in either xi or xiv
You'd love eve bot injection.
Is there much hacking/botting in eve?
The classic method is to dll hook blue.dll which is essentially a python interpreter, distributed as a dll, so you can access in-game methods directly through an external scripting engine.
I'm guessing there's automated mining etc
And to an extent, the game is extremely repetitive and grinding most of the time, so botting is unduly rewarded in relative manners.
Mining absolutely, NPC killing absolutely
I worked on a few projects that allowed mass automation for taking out players.
But multi-client sync in that system is difficult.
So I should reinstall it, bot mining and training for a year and then actually play
Market stuff is where most of the injection frameworks stay away from, sensibly.
Not wrong, highsec mining is really valuable these days after the last round of mining nerfs in null.
If I do ever play again I'll just never get attached to anything, I'm too old, lazy and shit to be good at games now so I'd definitely get killed a lot if I left safe space
That's sorta eve, you just never get attached to anything you own.
I used to happily be a tryhard back in my xi days, but now it's the casual life for me
Like in xiv I have all jobs levelled to max but barely do endgame content, just normals for story
XIV is that right kinda game for that sorta casual gameplay loop tho, it rewards both hardcore and casual play.
Yeah something for everyone
Savage and ult raiding is my bread and butter
This is my second tier of savages, and while I'm enjoying it, I'm not enjoying how bad we are at P7S prog. Though I think the rest of the group cleared this past sun.
Get er done
Wait ice while ur here, what's up with the fans again?
Or are they fine
Planning out a new system
Idk for some reason I remembered you saying something about them pegged at a high rpm
sarah gettin a 4090 and 7959x3d
I actually can
But I'll restrain
Ah so it won't be an issue ice
My case has no windows
Mind as well use new gen parts tbh
I'll use what doesn't sell by the end of this month
I think the fact that my 4090 is running in the low 60s while being smushed up against the glass is impressive
Ah nice, you ordered the custom Hyte design huh?
yep
that case is adorable lol
idk why but that new hyundai gives me vibes of the original ford focus
oh i see, those hyte cases have hololive streamer avatars
presumably adult characters. i wonder why they went and made hakos belz look 10 lol
the Kronii one probably smells like Subway sandwiches
And maple syrup
I think she's a short-stack IRL
The character heights/figure are generally similar to their real life bc it translates more easily to 3D motion tracking. Although you think bust size would be easy to fudge unless they were literally hugging chest to chest in 3D lives heh.
Are there designs now for all of Council? I thought it was just Bae that got the case promo.
Bae and Kronii
Dont think so? Didnt she get tricked by chat to touch elbows?
Short-stack = short girl with big boobs
Ye. I meant touch elbow meamt she flat
i'm not a normie i just don't like vtubers and shit all that much
fix it yourself 4090 owner
I WISH i had a 4090
Inno 3D ichill 3090
ah, old 90
how do people sit in front of vertical monitor? do they use higher desk chair or?
wow that's neat
Vertical curved monitors make me think of people sitting in front of slots at the casino heh
same
I understand why some people have a portrait monitor, but I can't see any use-case for needing/wanting a curved vertical. Especially the crazy 1000R ones
me neither
500R in an overkill expensive af Tetris/Dr Mario/Puzzle Bobble emulator /s
welcome to hell
worst coil whine was 2080 ti and 3090 in my experience

i wonder how well those hyte cases breathe compared to an o11
probably fine until you replace the front panel on the o11 with a mesh panel
700 bucks and you'll get a sweet magnet
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Sigh... some highschoolers in another discord I hang out in ... "consulted" their friend on buying a prebuilt
mm
tbh ice
I think dxo photo lab >>>>>> lightroom
but photoshop is nice
and dxo doesn't have libraries/catalogs like lightroom does
it costs way the fuck more, too
He just paid $900 for a prebuilt with 11400F with stock cooler, 8gb 1 stick of ram, 3050 ... sigh
but since you seem fairly liberal with your budgets lol, might wanna try a demo of it
O_O
yiiikes
tbh I've been through this with people I knew before
I've recommended diy builds many times, even happily offering to build it for them if they wanted. nobody has ever taken me up on that offer
admittedly, I haven't been faced with that option in years
because they always want a laptop
DXO has amazing noise reduction stuff
cant have noise if u just shoot at iso100
iirc the windows version of acdsee is nice but the mac version is useless for the $$ which is too bad, because they are usually the cheapest. Affinity is also really cheap but it's not a good lightroom clone either
erm
not good for using as a lightroom alternative, like dxo
affinity photo feels like photoshop elements
if that makes any sense
hehe i got the demo of lightroom again for the holidays >> just about to renew and I kinda don't want to
but it's hard to find a good alternative for $99
or rather, I should say, a good easy to use in a hurry alternative
darktable is just as capable as lightroom
capture one's stuff also looks pretty interesting
Does connecting my wifi and lan at the same time affect my connection to the server? I notice lately ive been disconnecting suddenly.When im still connected to the internet
afaik if you are using ethernet, you just disable your wifi auto
there's no need for wifi, if you are using ethernet, ethernet is far more superior and required for gaming
wifi for gaming is just wasting the money you use to pay for internet
no
I no longer has question
yes
yea just turn off wifi in windows
My motherboard doesn't have a wifi adapter
if thats the case just leave wifi off
also, did nobody hop on the 7950X3D hype train yet?
they turned that around mad fast, I didn't expect to see the x3d part until january of next year
fucking 144MB onboard cache, good gravy
7950x3d is dumb
what
only worth getting the 7900x3d unless you need the extra cores
it's only 4mb more of cache
more cores though 
but unless you need them it's moot
also, they inadvertently fixed the actual problem with the 7950X by reducing the core clock lmao
the 7900x3d is the sweetspot 
look at the difference in the power consumption between the 7950X and X3D
we'll see once it's actually out i have hope for it
I mean, if the scaling AMD claims is to be believed it's something like 20-25% faster than the 5800X3D
so that puts it firmly in the extremely fuckin fast category
and since the 7950 has way more cores it won't eat shit in productivity apps
yeah, and they only showed the 7800x3d not the 7900x3d which has way more cache than the lesser x3d
that's probably why they aggressively slashed the 7950X's price last month, the X3D will probably live in that $799 price point
I mean, if I'm going to end up wasting $500 on a board I'd like the CPU to be equally capable 
the 7900/7950 were kind of underwhelming for the price
500 on a board is just too much
yeah, but there aren't many cheap AM5 boards
unless they're like, 1 PCIe slot and nothing else on em
there are some decent ones it's when you go into the 670E/650E it gets expensive
and idc about gen 5 storage 😐
the 670E is kind of the only chipset that matters unless you're going deep budget
I do, the 990 is gen 5 
if I'm buying a new PC it better be the fastest you can get so I don't need to touch it for another 6-7 years 
i doubt i'd ever really need gen 5 storage
atleast for a long while
considering consoles aren't made for gen 5 and that's what a lot of games will be optimized based on i'll be okay 
what we need is nvidia to make reasonable bus widths to their cards aside from just the 90 class
I really want to try some gen 5 storage soon >.>
Not that I need more speed, but I need more speed, yanno?
msi intro'ed a pcie stick that does 12 gb/sec but the 4kb random read is shit
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how hard is this
to install yourself
without electrocuting yourself
taken you turn off
the breaker
I think it's bc their current offerings kinda fell on their face
Probably in part because people knew they would have the X3D coming and were waiting. But also the high prices...
power consumption way out of control, plus kind of middling performance thanks to the thermal throttling
it's not specifically that the x3d's inevitability cannibalized sales, so much as the extra core clock speed doesn't give you enough to justify the extra (stated) 60W power consumption
that's more like 120W under practical use cases
@deep sapphire
Yeah it seems Intel, AMD, and Nvidia all drank the wackazade at the same time
I really don't understand Nvidia's gameplan here over the next 5 years... they historically pushed like 15-30% gains gen-over-gen for like 20 years
Then for the 40 series they decide to oversize the cards to push like 70-80% gains in one gen.
probably testing out how far they can push the monolithic design, since the 50 series is supposed to be a chiplet design
Do they know something we don't and still have huge gains in the wings when pushing into angstrom-tier litho?
Or do they intend to keep trying to gaslight people on synthetic frames == real FPS gains with DLSS?
probably a different transistor topology so they're all gearing up for radical changes
gaslighting is the way to go
AI 8k + 5G
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/104esck/resellers_struggle_to_unload_geforce_rtx_4070_ti/ lmao get fucked
good
A rectangular touchscreen is also the steering wheel.
just give me the exterior with a 1973 interior
fucking hell
why is it so hard to just put speakers and a bunch of knobs with a real steering wheel 
The irony is, if you just look at performance benchmarks, you're getting a 3090 for $800 which is honestly not a bad deal.
Although the memory bandwidth does kneecap it in 4K a bit.
But they've so badly mismanaged the optics and PR the whole 40 series is kinda radioactive now
Not a bad deal as much as the 30 series MSRPs could be considered "fair" at least.
it performs worse than a 3070 in some cases lmao
Less than 10 years ago I had a GTX 770 for like $280 and now they want $800-900 for a 70 series card. Whatadeal
to be fair, inflation has shot up almost the same between now and then 
did they zero out the last two years of price squeezes?
I dunno I just searched inflation calculator
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How much you want to bet the 4060 will be 549 or 599?
inflation in the last two years has been completely fucked, between price squeezes and direct M2 supply
$600 for sure
the 4050 needs to exist at $450-500
4050 should be fucking 200
Isn't the future great?!
smh
I guess if you're willing to just stick to 1080p gaming, you can still buy a GPU without bankrupting yourself. And can probably sit on it a lot longer too.
in another server got the question of what vid card to buy (replacement. no signal on display ports even with different monitor). did my usual suggestions based on price to frame rate
first reply i got is he wanted a fucking overpriced 3060 plain
did you try the absolute last resort of baking the card?
even though 3060 ti was like only 30 bucks more
I don't know what other fixes were attempted (bios battery, different cables, reseating)
lol
i just know if a person really needs to save money or can't afford a gpu it can help at times 
it's a shot in the dark though 😭
yeah if it's the handshake controller or something can coax a little more life out of it
@hard drift yo AMD shill, did your mob announce/release the 7000 equivalent of 5600g yet?
i'm not an amd shill 😐 and i don't want to hear it 😭 hank is swapping 
and we'll probably see them around summer/fall
but so far no
we know that the apus are going to be killer though given that some of the mobile line has 12 rdna 3 CUs so assuming it is at minimum that, you already have way more powerful than a steamdeck since it only uses 8 rdna2 CUs
Yea you are
shush
Not anymore
too good for you so you won't use it?
LOL
don't remind me that square bought eidos
i refuse to buy anybody anything
bido promised me a 7950x3d
i couldn't care less about what hank uses, it affects him not me lol
i didn't promise you shit 
i quote bido verbatim "there will not be a 7950x3d, if there is I will buy you one"
lmao no, i said it'd be extremely pointless to make it
and i still stand by that
the 7900x3d is way better value unless you need the extra cores, 4mb of cache isn't worth 300 extra
dont try to get out of this, we got you dead to rights
😒 that's BS
the only thing that i was wrong about is "Can't claim what doesn't exist" since it will now exist 
just to claim it you better cough up the money 
ill see wat pricing is
it'll likely be around 800
hell, there's no reason why they can't price it around 1k
intel has literally nothing on them for gaming performance with x3d
13900ks for 2% extra fps at the cost of way more power and cost 
Please stop buying things
money is the root of evil and we must cleanse it from our possession

I'm just trying to save you from yourself
it'll be a great buy 
He already has an amazing rig
sure but that doesn't mean people aren't hobbyists 
Wasting money is his hobby
some people spend a shit ton on models and such, we spend a ton on tech 
it's not a waste when there is something to gain 
Go to work bidori
buy me a sako trg42
😐
a trg22 is also acceptable
Idk what this is but knowing you it's a few grand that I don't have so it's probably a no
it's a rifle
it's one of the best bolt rifles ever made, to be more specific
😒
the TRG42 is what the CS awp wishes it was
it's genuinely chambered in .338 lapua and has incredible long-range accuracy
(the actual awp, as pictured in all CS games, is chambered in 7.62x51mm, not .338 lapua and it's something that annoys me every time I see that god damned rifle)
I can't buy guns sorry what a shame
this fucking flu makes me want to put a bullet in my brain tbf
noooo don't say that
i'm sorry you're feeling that bad though, I hope you feel better as soon as possible!
don't worry he's welsh, he can't
i like the idea
hope other aibs follow this 
That’s actually a really fun idea
yeah, and the fact that they made it possible for smaller printers and such
especially when a lot of people complain "these cards look tacky af" or whatever
it allows uniqueness 
i know powercolor did the magnetic shroud thing on this gen of cards but pretty sure it was a limited run

that's actually really fucking cool
i can't wait to see what people do with this
actual card innovation for once 
ikr
lol I like how black magic calls their pocket cinema camera's sensor a "full-size 4/3 sensor"
shhh it's not full-frame
Aren't there two sizes to APS though?
theres a few to aps
but 4/3 small
so idk what they are saying 4/3 is "Full size" to
damn ed ur a nerd. but fr im not paying $7500 for one
they're trying to scam people shopping for a full-frame camera 
I figured it wasn't full frame because it was a $1300 video camera
there's just no way
look at sony
they took the a7iii and added an S and called it a video cam and charged $3k for it 😛
err wait does it even
the s uses a lower megapixel sensor?
I'm annoyed at the options for a new camera that does a good job at video lol
like I can get an a7c or a7iii that does a poor job at video in what I'd consider my budget
or I can get a GH4/GH5
hmm how about an s5....
at least the s5 isn't 4/3
the S is diff
i wouldnt buy a gh5 these days honestly
depends on how much u care about AF actually working
a7iii will be more than enough for amateur. wouldnt rec the a7iv
yea an a7iv would be nice but a nice lens for these is like $800, no>
but on that note you are going to have to deal with obtuse sony menus and no flip screen on the a7iii
a7iv will overheat for video
ahhh that sucks
i was reading some threads about affordable sony lenses and this was mentioned
thats E btw not FE
GM lenses are $14-$3000
ye idk for any new systems. could check the gh5 2 but its 4/3 so massively less valuable (to me), the S5 (which is expensive), and the S1H (which is.. even more expensive)...
4/3 bodies are sooo expensive for what they are lol
but it kinda makes sense
the $1500-2k 4/3 cameras have some of the feature sets the $3-5k full-frames do
i could never go back to 4/3 with the way the focal lengths work
be at the club with my 10mm lens trying to fit myself into the walls because its like 30mm on full frame
anyone tried animated wallpapers?
cant possibly give up 1fps for that
Micro-USB: Charges my controller
Also Micro-USB: Won't let me connect controller to PC
u gotta have the directional USB cable
gotta have arrows to send the bits to the computer

also also micro-USB: garbage
Cries in PS4 controller
laughs in $200 logitech mice still using micro
my decision to avoid logitech remains justified
That's disgusting
I'm getting a bluetooth adapter tomorrow since my only working micro-USB cable has a broken connector 
i still have that $30 usb controller they put out
I have a Razer Barracuda X headset, Razer Naga Trinity mouse and Apex SteelSeries 5 hybrid mechanical keyboard
only got the GPX, other than 400/403/305/518
My mouse was acting up a while ago and I was trying to find myself a G600 but then it stopped acting up
they ARE obnoxious as shit
the whole
'your 50mm is as good as anyone else's 25mm' shit
when stuff like the a7c exists i'm not sure why anyone would spend >$1k for a m43 camera
unless they're doing video and can't afford a full frame video camera 
a7c is basically just a smaller a7iii
i get the impression the kit lens sucks
i mean
an f<2.0 lens on just about anything should be good at low light lol
i'm still puzzled why you're having trouble with your aps-c
but i bet if i used my m43 in the same situation it'd be terrible, too
because the iso you're talking about
😮 I never go that high
like for me iso1600 is scandalous
but I am using a like 12 year old camera body
oh 10 years old*
and it used a really really good m43 sensor
-salutes olympus for using the same sensor in damn near all their cameras-
the om-d e-m5, e-pm2, e-pl5 all use the same 16mp sony sensor \
Buy my shit a6000 please
Give me an excuse to upgrade
tons of dead spots on the sensor and free extra crunchy emount
i bought my brother a nikon a long time ago
hmm
i think it was this
very pretty little camera, took great pictures lol
All I do is both
I have so much fucking materia that's gonna be used and sold on patch day
There's no such thing as enough monitor space. There's always a need for more. :D
actually yeah maybe I should get a third monitor for funsies
Part of me wants to hook back up a monitor I've got on an arm, but it's behind my mic atm so it's not in a good visibility spot.
psst hey kid you wanna buy some materia
admittedly ice gave me gil to change over to the server he's on
could live like a rockstar on there prolly
: 3
Wanna drop like 10mill gil on my asshole so i can buy glam shit
:3
For legal reasons that was a joke
I just wanna make sure I drop as little gil on materia and crafting mats as I can
especially materia
I need to go finish farming tomes pre-patch in case they drop something there.
But got my gemstones sorted.
Not sure, we already have 9/10, so doubt it.
Good morning guys, are we allowed to discuss FFXIV installation setups for steam deck here? Mine's not booting anymore!
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Nvm it booted now lol thanks though
As someone who loves raytracing, death to AMD GPU's.
if I were buying rn i'd get a 6700 XT no cap
more vram and slightly better raster performance vs my 3060 ti
same, i just mean in the context of buying right now and what is available and for what price
3060 ti (when available at nvidia) is £380 vs 6700 xt for £400
maybe someday when actually proper raytracing, that you actually notice while playing, exists in more games without eating 60%+ of my fps
I have a problem, it's called "Control" and that raytraced is just too good.
thats one game yes
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I want it in more. :P
But control is good enough I keep wanting it. Also, AMD needs more vram to be considered viable for my setups.
i can think of like two others where its noticably different during gameplay. i just wish more devs would hyperfocus less on reflections and put more work into global illumination
they have more vram than nvidia though?
aside from the top tier cards which are equal
6900xt is still a 16g card.
7900xtx is not
Yeah, that's auctually a considerating for my move.
But I'm on a 3090ti atm, so I'm not going anywhere.
But yes, the newest AMD cards are finally getting reasonable levels of VRam.
maybe someday prices normalize again and nvidia stops being dumb, so i can actually buy them again and feel good about it
I don't feel good about it, but they drive my 4k monitors the best.
So they get my money. :P
nvidia vram amounts are kind of a joke if you're looking below the 3090/Ti
3080 has less than a 1080 Ti
and finally catching up with rtx. still a generation behind, but its better than before
Yeah, we've been talking about this in another discord I'm in, that deals with those types of low-level opts, the 7xxx series is gonna be interesting.
Though I'm not a fan of the changes to the vbios in this generation for AMD.
Tie, Tee Eye, potato, potahto
(also naming schemes)
They're not /that/ bad. :P
I like the current set better than the RX vega line insanity. 56/64/pro? I think was that setup.
When you also had the 470-490 and 570-590 RX cards.
Oh, frontier edition was the pro one.
Right.
That entire line of cards was wildly fun tho
member the radeon vii
I think the GT 430/630/730/1030 were worse
good for mining and uhhhhhhh
You probally used a miner a close friend of mine wrote. :P
AMD cards were kings of mining for so long.
dat hbm
Mmhmm.
radeon vii did like twice the hash rate of my 3060 ti
Monero was absurd on them, because it was, at that time, memory bandwidth hard.
So the RX vegas were running rampant w/ HBM.
60 hurts xdddd
Anything more then 60 my eyes go crossed
https://twitter.com/msiUSA/status/1611500515682291712 it's still horrible msi 😭
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i think they're just going based on price hikes vs previous gen
but it's still horrible lol
nvidia needs to drop pricing and then slot in a 4080 ti at the 1200 price point already 😐
graphics cards should be $1
I won't go 1$, but they should be more reasonable than they are now.
last gen pricing + 100 at most
I wouldn't go that route either, IMO, they need to be reasonable to what their auctual parts costs are.
I also thoroughly beleive that the crypto insanity damaged that industry forever, and keep hoping someone new will pop up.
right now the 4080 12GB 4070 Ti is about as powerful as the 3080
in the end they still need to make a profit, if they're selling at around what their parts cost it's probably going to be a loss
for prices to start going down we need nvidia to go chiplet since monolithic is getting too expensive
AMD's going that route already, Nvidia likely isn't far behind.
yeah, and amd can probably afford to drop prices and should 
My gut reaction says we're gonna have some weirdly sized chiplets.
i mean that's fine
as long as it drives cost down
As a developer on them, it's weird. :P
it's fine
It's already weird thinking about having the same code executing in multiples of 64 only
:D
Dunno, I feel like chiplet GPU's are gonna be way harder than chiplet CPU's due to the way data is accessed and managed on them.
i mean, they're for sure capable of figuring it out
I'll also take "More fabs plz" from ASML, and "Can someone please compete with TSMC" thanks.
amd did it nvidia can surely do it too
Oh yeah, no question, I just think it's gonna be harder than it seems at first glance.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-cpus-can-be-distinguished-by-a-new-box-lower-tjmax-temperature-confirmed hopefully the new tdps make them not run like the sun 
Yeah, right.
well this is amds like 2 or 3rd gen of chiplet gpus so we'll see how long it takes nvidia
Probally a decade. >.>
lol
Which is fine, if they fall behind, people will move.
I need to see how the 7xxx series cards are doing this time around, now that they auctually have a little vram.
the 4070 ti is a huge nail in the coffin at its price
Nvidia also can't ride the ETH wave anymore, so.
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rtx-4080-noctua-gpu-pictured-some-more-with-its-4-3-slot-thick-cooler jesus christ.... 4.3 slots 😭
the 4070 Ti died months ago when it was first announced
that's still fucking huge
All notctua coolers are huge.
That's just how it be.
Not like you're gonna use any of the other PCIe slots.
yeah
and the fact that a 70 class is valued at 100 dollars less than the "80" class it was going to be
people need to open their eyes 
i do though 
I mean, I do too, but at that point, I'm not buying a noctua card either.
https://www.alphacool.com/shop/radiators/radiators/360-mm/12877/alphacool-nexxxos-monsta-360mm-radiator yeah but what about this rad
"Noctua confirmed that the RTX 4080 will be equipped with two NF-A12x25 brown and beige fan. A large diameter of the fans and custom made vapor chamber will ensure that the card remain the quietest RTX 4080 on the market with typical temperatures not exceeding 61.7°C, the company claims."
62 max temp 
too thick
Here, have something even bigger than a noctua. :D
i'm waiting for gen 2
There's one on my old 5950x.
it's coming this year
they're working on a copper baseplate version which works even better and a liquid cooler that doesn't need a pump
Oooooh. I likey.
the copper plate version was already shown off with splave
I didn't have anywhere near the room in this build, so I just slapped an AIO on, but I'll have to keep an eye out for the next one.
https://youtu.be/PeQX1uhb0iQ oh, LTT has a video too
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Eh, I don't watch LTT>
Oh I checked the prices of the non-X Zen 4 SKUs
ridiculous that it's $70-120 for a letter
here's the basic
considering the thing failed originally for the non copper
Not bad.
I need that sweet, sweet unlocked chip tho.
they're already unlocked
it's amd not intel 
Not entirely.
yeah, but you can get extremely close with tweaking
Ye.
also here's the splave results
Don't get me wrong, not worth it for 99% of cases, but nor is buying massively overlcocked ram, breaking out ryzentweaker, and binning ramsticks.
air cooling is fine in 99% of cases
get a beefy cooler like the ak620 or deep rock pro 4 or whatever
you are set up for all cpus
Also true.
Tbh, in general noctuas work fine for cooling just abut anything, it's just weird cases they don't play well.
ofc a noctua will not 5ghz all core a 13900k or whatever
it depends on how hot the chip is
but
all amd cpus on eco mode with the cooler are fine
will OC well cause eco mode disables some bs that amd put
Yeah, but if you're buying k's, x's, etc, you generally are gonna OC the hell out if it.
The 5950x I had was 125w nominal, it was regularly pulling 300w before I retired that machine.
In general tho, if you're using the chips the way they were designed, even OEM coolers will usually handle the worst of it.
begone
lets face it most people buy aio because they like the ~aesthetics~
3900x still running without fannssss
i mean it does generally look better

nah
STOP TORTURING THE POOR BABY
hunk of metal is more sxc
LMFAOOOO
I mean, you can run anything without fans if you include enough passive heatsink size.
Oi, no selling shit here
Go Cleave?
Not yet
Nah

Also, technically, most server CPU's run without "direct" fans >.>
Even past that, there's DC's like switch which have so much throough-rack airlfow you can entirely go without fans, and just let the passive sinks deal with it.
i mean yes but they also don't run in a small crowded ass form factor with potential for liquid damage like sarah 
Shhhh, that's what makes it enjoyable >.> The risk is the fun part!

it'll be okay
once sarah takes it apart to make it a 7950x3d machine or whatever it will be fixed hopefully
fixed -never-
if sarah doesn't fix it despite taking it apart...
the person that spoke named sarah 😭
No fix, just more passive cooling nods
Not there any more, but did spend plenty of years in Houston.
<@&100464652139368448> yeah uh might wanna get rid of this
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Hell yeah
We’re regularly off topic you’re fine lmao
ngl the S mount sucks ecosystem wise
they have very few lenses comparable to son'ys
16-35 f4 for lumix, 16-35 f/2.8 on sony
sigh
ok if LTT makes a video saying "don't use water coolers"
at least that isn't going to turn into everyone on reddit yelling at people to not use WCs
(but if steve does, we're screwed)
buy $200 aio to cool your 65w cpu 🙏

honestly true, i know quite a few like this
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cinebench is weaksauce
yeah but it's ice worrying about pointless things anyways lol
lmao
it's not outdated, it's just not the latest and greatest
i'm honestly excited to upgrade my cpu 
3700x -> 7900x3d will be such a great upgrade
3700x to 5900x would be doggers, zen 2 was shite
That’s why I’m doing 7900x3d
i thought bidori was an intel person
Lay off on my 3900x will ya
i'm not an amd shill, i would go intel if they brought something that could beat x3d
i'm a whatever is best bang for my buck person
i don't get to see my pc insides much so idc about looks lol
the only thing i care about is no rgb because i hate seeing it out of the corner of my eye
bidori is lying
why do you think i keep asking for a 4080 ti 😐
@deep sapphire bidori is trying to say he's not an amd shill
and to make it the 1200 dollar price
Hank will be here to mute you shortly
that's fine 
while he's at it please kick me 😭

in other news, amds new box design for x3d looks nice 
intels old box design probably did lol
the dodecahedron thing or whatever it was
it'll be covered by my cooler so i won't see it
not to mention i'd be dumb not to buy it vs anything else
the gains are just too great 
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it was a joke 😭
Bidori my friend works at AMD
I’ll ask him to get you a job but you gotta move to Austin Texas
i am not qualified 😐
Sure you are you never stop talking about AMD!
also hell no, texas is awful
I bet you’ve never even been there lmao
Everywhere you go sucks
😐
everywhere in texas is a ghetto
Austin!
i know lmfao
#cancelhank2023
Fuckin phone
frfr
meanwhile hank has still kept the typo instead of correcting it 
Good
lol
and here's how hank loses his blue text 
Back into the box of shame you go
yea seriously wtf
why do you have a titan z
ahh so BMW is doing subscriptions now in the US
so a one time fee on top of a subscription.... that's stupid
the article explained it's a one time fee or a subscription in those cases
but other options have no one-time-fee option
i wonder what kinda logic is being applied for the dash cam
like I gfet paying a fee for anything cloud based
but why does the 'driver recorder' need to be cloud based
the fact that it helps you with insurance or some shit probably
Anyone know what case this is?
Okay but do you have one without the fish?
Give me that tank 
pretty sure it's not out yet, it's part of the "amd advantage" thing
the screen is probably a mod
I see. Thanks.
It actually looks pretty cool, and if had decent thermals I might consider it.
we'll see when they come out 
Man I wanna keep to ITX builds.
Even this MATX case I have is a little big for my desk and tastes right now.
The problem is that CPUs and GPUs keep getting warmer and warmer and bigger.
AM5 and 13th Gen practically demand a 360mm Radiator.
they don't demand it
you just need to adjust the curve and such
plus the new x3d parts for am5 will be a lower tdp
so it's slightly better 
I hope they're not as impossible to get as the 5800x3D was
Like that thing was available at first, then people found out how good it was for gaming and it goddamn disappeared
I live in Vermont
We have a moose, maple syrup, snow and depression and that is about it.

you always could not run them like the sun
just had to limit wattage
yeah
i know
and i have no problem with that
in the end, the gains vs my 3700x will be massive 
I feel like limiting the wattage on parts kinda defeats the purpose no?
Because if you limit the power you kneecap it and basically downgrade it.
(Or in the case of my last two GPUs just make them not work period.)
not true, there's a point where the gains don't outweigh the powerdraw
here's an example
yes there's performance left out but depending on your use case, you might not be losing out on much
Hmm.
Maybe I'm just bias from trying to undervolt my last two GPUs and having it be abysmal failure.
gpus are different that cpus though 
and even with gpus, there's a point where it drops off a cliff for gains vs powerdraw
actually kinda dece looking
ikr 
It looks nice, but I'm wondering about airflow and if the GPU is able to be set far enough back from the glass
most of the time you're fine
not to mention... are you really doing vertical mounting?
I feel like those kinds of cases are meant for vertical mounting
i mean sure, but it's still based on use case
some like vertical, some like horizontal
And in my case since since I mostly do SFF vertical mount is the only mount

