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cerulean talon
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That, I could see.

potent arrow
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The i2c interpreter I wrote

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Is my favorite thing

cerulean talon
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Also, if memory serves right, CAN would be slightly nicer for the type of work we do, so we'll never see it.

potent arrow
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I actually hate it

cerulean talon
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Probing I2C interfaces with unknown everything is fun. ;3

potent arrow
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Yeah.....

cerulean talon
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Totally didn't destroy some vregs doing that.

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Still have a sleeve of the replacement chips on my workbench.

potent arrow
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Rip registers, some embeded engs weeping somewhere

cerulean talon
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AMD has a fetish for using chips that don't have datasheets in their power supply design. (Thanks IR, y'all really helping)

potent arrow
cerulean talon
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So you can buy the chips, but can't get the datasheets.

potent arrow
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Because I blow the up so often

cerulean talon
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Bahahaha.

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That pleases me to no end.

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Also, I'm annoyed I never considered something like that now.

potent arrow
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When you are a few integrators in, you start to lose track

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(signal conditioning)

cerulean talon
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Never played w/ them, but my HW design experience is years out of date.

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So that's not surprising.

potent arrow
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Well it's hardware

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Nothing has changed

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Let's be real

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Same concepts, just smaller and more efficient

cerulean talon
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Sort-of?

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Signal conditoning wasn't nearly as much of a concern when your data rate was bps.

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Concepts are similar, but the scale of what needs to happen has changed some imo.

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The transition to lots of digital signals I think is the biggest change I missed, as I did more with analog, then only some digital processing.

potent arrow
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It was far more jank back then with analog

cerulean talon
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Yeah.

potent arrow
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Oh I barely do DSP

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I'm almost purely analog

cerulean talon
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Interesting.

potent arrow
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Yeah

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Atleast I havnt learnt many dsp concepts

cerulean talon
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Some day I'll have to get back busy into embedded design, it's been too long.

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Not that I don't have a stack of items on that list, but yanno.

potent arrow
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Yeee

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Almost done school and I'll have some real fun in the field

cerulean talon
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\o/ Seems like it'd be a fun field to get into these days.

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The tools and everything are way cooler than when I did my first boards.

potent arrow
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Still give me an old Tektronix crt oscilloscope

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That shit looks cooool

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Definitely not fast enough for what I do though

cerulean talon
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My roomie's got an old portable CRT one, that's like an old military radio style. Looks neat AF, dunno if it works.

potent arrow
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Don't see why not

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Built like tanks

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Calibration drifts like a Subaru

cerulean talon
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If only my subaru would drift more. :3 But you're not wrong.

potent arrow
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Give me a welder and your diff and I can make it happen

cerulean talon
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Noplz. I'll get a beater for /that/ level of abuse. :p

potent arrow
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Lmfaoo

cerulean talon
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I'd also have to rip out the front diff.

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As much as I want to make it RWD.

potent arrow
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Fuck I just remembered, I have a 49gb pysql database sitting on a USB for that elevator

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The table grows.....

cerulean talon
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I'd make a delete sql reference, but I'm also overhauling a SQL interface right now.

potent arrow
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I'm so inept at programming beyond C and assembly I cannot be helped

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I always love how powerful SQL is

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But also how absolutely dog shit it can be

cerulean talon
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Golang is my goto for everything these days.

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And yes, that's 100% correct all day long.

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The one I'm working on has some fun quirks.

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"fun"

potent arrow
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Very fun quirks

cerulean talon
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Mmhmm.

potent arrow
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Better then DB2

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Lorrrrd

cerulean talon
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Not sure about that.

potent arrow
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have mercy on me if I ever touch db2 again

cerulean talon
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This is more ORM weirdness than auctual SQL problems.

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I love raw SQL, ORM's make me want to die.

potent arrow
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OOP anything makes me want to die

cerulean talon
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Not wrong.

potent arrow
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But you know

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I'm embeded

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Oop is out of the equation for me

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Huuuge struggle bus

cerulean talon
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I'm technically a system administrator, so the idea of OOP was difficult when everything resolves to a linear process anwyay.

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Your fancy oop abstractions don't mean anything to my CPU core.

potent arrow
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That's literally what my prof said 🤣🤣🤣

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Everyday I get closer to being the world's most inept halfass full stack

cerulean talon
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There's something to be said for oop, multi-threaded setups, etc, or you can just write good code instead.

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I'll never be full stack. UI's are /not/ my thing.

potent arrow
potent arrow
cerulean talon
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But that doesn't mean I want to touch it. :p

potent arrow
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The only thing I havnt learned enough mobile app stuff yet to be really a half ass full stack

cerulean talon
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Also, I'm so bad at HTML, I can barely make CSS work, much less remember how to use divs properly.

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90% of my HTML is bad copy/pastes, unlike the rest of my code which is all neatly hand-crafted.

potent arrow
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Html is just copying from the bootstrap documention

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And writing tags on a sticky note

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Using JS for backend is super easy now too

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I combine JS and PHP for database stuff and that's it

cerulean talon
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I've done my share of JS, never again, thanks.

potent arrow
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But like I said, I'm half ass I know 50% in each category and that's it

cerulean talon
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I'll stick to Go or Python if I'm not doing it in go.

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At this point I almost use golang as a scripting language despite the fact it's compiled.

potent arrow
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Isn't go just Google C?

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I don't think I've poked it much

cerulean talon
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Sorta-ish. It's designed with more of a pythonic touch.

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But it's also designed around the idea that multi-processing and multi-threading should be "easy"

potent arrow
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Don't hate me, but I really dislike python lol

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So many people in my field use it for embeded applications and it's become a huge crutch

cerulean talon
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It's not for everyone, I like it more than PHP, but that's not saying much. I do hate how it's written usually.

potent arrow
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PHP mewpaissa

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Truly

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A dinosaur programming language

cerulean talon
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MicroPython I assume?

potent arrow
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Nope straight python

cerulean talon
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That's on embedded now?

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Sheesh.

potent arrow
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They just use rpi clonese

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It's fucking stupid

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So much wasted resources

cerulean talon
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Ah.

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So sorta-emebeded.

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I always have a hard time if I want to consider a modern SoC as "embedded" or not.

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But yeah, that's stupid if people are using that w/ python over some proper uc's.

potent arrow
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It's become common

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I'm sitting here crafting the most memory efficient code

cerulean talon
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It makes sense, but it annoys me.

potent arrow
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To fit on a tiny tiny 56kb chip

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And it does everything they can do

cerulean talon
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My clocks are precious, don't waste them.

potent arrow
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And runs off two double a batteries

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For MONTHS

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With a nice standby routine

cerulean talon
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As I sit here and rip out layers of abstraction in this codebase...

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Yeeee. That's the good stuff.

potent arrow
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And these Motherfuckers

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Complain they get their designed turned down because it's a rpi zero with a lipo tapped to it

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And it's running a full OS and a million python libraries

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Like????

cerulean talon
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What a shocker.

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People are bad at designing good code/hardware/etc. :P

potent arrow
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It's not even that good on my end

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It's just some CUBEmx shenanigans

cerulean talon
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The first time I saw cubemx, I was shocked at how powerful that was.

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They put some super cool tricks in there.

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Pin reuse by changing the hardware spec? Yesplz.

odd sand
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That's modern computing though. Most companies prefer the fastest thing to market, no matter how sloppy and inefficient. Even if it's more expensive than a proper embedded solution

potent arrow
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It's insanely powerful

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Most places I've been in want the old fashion way, atleast in my experience

cerulean talon
potent arrow
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Boom! Suddenly an interupt pin! Oh? I need this to be a direct to reg? Easy

cerulean talon
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It's completely absurd, and I love it.

potent arrow
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And now robo time

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You know I just realized

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You are a kupobot dev

cerulean talon
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Yarp.

potent arrow
cerulean talon
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That's the codebase I'm working on too.

potent arrow
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Thats

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I hope it's not that bad lol

cerulean talon
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15 hours so far today.

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:3

potent arrow
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Discord libraries are a doozy

cerulean talon
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I've got another 2-3 before this refactor is ready to test.

potent arrow
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Esp. with the new slash shit

cerulean talon
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We've lightly discussed how to move kupo to /'s .

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But uh, that's not gonna be easy.

potent arrow
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It's not gonna be for anyone

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The implementation is half baked

cerulean talon
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Mostly, yeah.

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I think there's enough primitives that you can get /close/

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But chaining them properly is gonna be absurd.

potent arrow
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Hnnng

cerulean talon
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Not the first time I've done something stupid like that. :P

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Though, I really want to consider a new architectural design for discord bots in general, so we'll see if I seriously work on that.

potent arrow
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Sometimes I feel like I want to write a c++ wrapper for discord api

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And then I remember I'm a nonce

cerulean talon
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Nope, nope nope.

potent arrow
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LOL

cerulean talon
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Noooope.

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There's so many footguns in that API.

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Also, the amount of JSON parsing required would make C++ die.

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Netcore would auctually be reasonable.

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The golang one is passable-enough.

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I just love tracing kupo and seeing us burning 30% of his processing time parsing json.

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Thanks discord, for being great and using json over websockets.

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There's probally a half-decent netcore one somewhere.

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Discord has a pretty good chunk of libs.

potent arrow
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Dinner time

cerulean talon
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Time to throw it, and you in the freezer.

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Along with all your .net insanity

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That, I can't argue.

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Hrm, I just ran into a function I prefixed with zzz_

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Clearly, I'm doing something stupid.

modest moss
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Ice gonna secretly rewrite kupo in vb6

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Bot you mean

cerulean talon
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"Helper" "bot"

modest moss
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Filthy cheat

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Ban

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Reporting to STF

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Deserved

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Would you believe I never got jailed in either xi or xiv

cerulean talon
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You'd love eve bot injection.

modest moss
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Is there much hacking/botting in eve?

cerulean talon
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The classic method is to dll hook blue.dll which is essentially a python interpreter, distributed as a dll, so you can access in-game methods directly through an external scripting engine.

modest moss
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I'm guessing there's automated mining etc

cerulean talon
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And to an extent, the game is extremely repetitive and grinding most of the time, so botting is unduly rewarded in relative manners.

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Mining absolutely, NPC killing absolutely

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I worked on a few projects that allowed mass automation for taking out players.

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But multi-client sync in that system is difficult.

modest moss
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So I should reinstall it, bot mining and training for a year and then actually play

cerulean talon
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Market stuff is where most of the injection frameworks stay away from, sensibly.

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Not wrong, highsec mining is really valuable these days after the last round of mining nerfs in null.

modest moss
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If I do ever play again I'll just never get attached to anything, I'm too old, lazy and shit to be good at games now so I'd definitely get killed a lot if I left safe space

cerulean talon
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That's sorta eve, you just never get attached to anything you own.

modest moss
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I used to happily be a tryhard back in my xi days, but now it's the casual life for me

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Like in xiv I have all jobs levelled to max but barely do endgame content, just normals for story

cerulean talon
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XIV is that right kinda game for that sorta casual gameplay loop tho, it rewards both hardcore and casual play.

modest moss
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Yeah something for everyone

potent arrow
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Savage and ult raiding is my bread and butter

cerulean talon
deep sapphire
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Get er done

potent arrow
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Wait ice while ur here, what's up with the fans again?

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Or are they fine

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Planning out a new system

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Idk for some reason I remembered you saying something about them pegged at a high rpm

jaunty light
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sarah gettin a 4090 and 7959x3d

potent arrow
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But I'll restrain

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Ah so it won't be an issue ice

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My case has no windows

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Mind as well use new gen parts tbh

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I'll use what doesn't sell by the end of this month

sharp star
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I think the fact that my 4090 is running in the low 60s while being smushed up against the glass is impressive

jaunty light
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4090 nice and efficient

odd sand
sharp star
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yep

sly elk
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idk why but that new hyundai gives me vibes of the original ford focus

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oh i see, those hyte cases have hololive streamer avatars

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presumably adult characters. i wonder why they went and made hakos belz look 10 lol

sharp star
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the Kronii one probably smells like Subway sandwiches

dusky magnet
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And maple syrup

odd sand
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The character heights/figure are generally similar to their real life bc it translates more easily to 3D motion tracking. Although you think bust size would be easy to fudge unless they were literally hugging chest to chest in 3D lives heh.

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Are there designs now for all of Council? I thought it was just Bae that got the case promo.

royal forge
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Bae and Kronii

royal forge
odd sand
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Short-stack = short girl with big boobs

royal forge
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Ye. I meant touch elbow meamt she flat

hard drift
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what is this weeb shit in tech 😐

royal forge
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Fix my coil whine

hard drift
hard drift
royal forge
hard drift
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which do you have?

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too many 90 owners in here lol

royal forge
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Inno 3D ichill 3090

hard drift
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ah, old 90

royal forge
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DONT SAY IT LIKE THAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

hard drift
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i mean it's not the oldest 90

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not like it's a 590 or 690 haha

outer sand
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how do people sit in front of vertical monitor? do they use higher desk chair or?

odd sand
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Vertical curved monitors make me think of people sitting in front of slots at the casino heh

sly elk
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same

odd sand
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I understand why some people have a portrait monitor, but I can't see any use-case for needing/wanting a curved vertical. Especially the crazy 1000R ones

sly elk
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me neither

odd sand
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500R in an overkill expensive af Tetris/Dr Mario/Puzzle Bobble emulator /s

jaunty light
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worst coil whine was 2080 ti and 3090 in my experience

hard drift
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rip

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my 6900xt has bad coil whine but that's only if i'm leaving it uncapped for fps

jaunty light
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the 2080 ti was all the time and loud as fuck

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SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

hard drift
sly elk
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i wonder how well those hyte cases breathe compared to an o11

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probably fine until you replace the front panel on the o11 with a mesh panel

jaunty light
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700 bucks and you'll get a sweet magnet

sly elk
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i see now why my bro likes mexican pizzas

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this is nice

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i use a 3080ti

jaunty light
odd sand
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Sigh... some highschoolers in another discord I hang out in ... "consulted" their friend on buying a prebuilt

sly elk
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mm

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tbh ice

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I think dxo photo lab >>>>>> lightroom

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but photoshop is nice

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and dxo doesn't have libraries/catalogs like lightroom does

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it costs way the fuck more, too

odd sand
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He just paid $900 for a prebuilt with 11400F with stock cooler, 8gb 1 stick of ram, 3050 ... sigh

sly elk
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but since you seem fairly liberal with your budgets lol, might wanna try a demo of it

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O_O

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yiiikes

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tbh I've been through this with people I knew before

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I've recommended diy builds many times, even happily offering to build it for them if they wanted. nobody has ever taken me up on that offer

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admittedly, I haven't been faced with that option in years

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because they always want a laptop

jaunty light
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never used DXO

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too used to garbage adobe products to switch

sly elk
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DXO has amazing noise reduction stuff

jaunty light
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cant have noise if u just shoot at iso100

sly elk
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iirc the windows version of acdsee is nice but the mac version is useless for the $$ which is too bad, because they are usually the cheapest. Affinity is also really cheap but it's not a good lightroom clone either

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erm

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not good for using as a lightroom alternative, like dxo

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affinity photo feels like photoshop elements

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if that makes any sense

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hehe i got the demo of lightroom again for the holidays >> just about to renew and I kinda don't want to

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but it's hard to find a good alternative for $99

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or rather, I should say, a good easy to use in a hurry alternative

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darktable is just as capable as lightroom

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capture one's stuff also looks pretty interesting

drowsy kernel
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Does connecting my wifi and lan at the same time affect my connection to the server? I notice lately ive been disconnecting suddenly.When im still connected to the internet

sharp star
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55,850 PHP for a 4070 Ti here

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Jensen is clinically insane

outer sand
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there's no need for wifi, if you are using ethernet, ethernet is far more superior and required for gaming

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wifi for gaming is just wasting the money you use to pay for internet

burnt swallow
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Y'all

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I has question

bitter girder
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no

burnt swallow
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I no longer has question

bitter girder
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yes

sly elk
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yea just turn off wifi in windows

burnt swallow
bitter girder
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if thats the case just leave wifi off

sly elk
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inside an ncase m1 lol

sly elk
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i kinda wanna play with it a little

umbral moss
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also, did nobody hop on the 7950X3D hype train yet?

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they turned that around mad fast, I didn't expect to see the x3d part until january of next year

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fucking 144MB onboard cache, good gravy

hard drift
umbral moss
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what

hard drift
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only worth getting the 7900x3d unless you need the extra cores

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it's only 4mb more of cache

umbral moss
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more cores though pogianger

hard drift
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but unless you need them it's moot

umbral moss
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also, they inadvertently fixed the actual problem with the 7950X by reducing the core clock lmao

hard drift
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the 7900x3d is the sweetspot dorime

umbral moss
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look at the difference in the power consumption between the 7950X and X3D

hard drift
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we'll see once it's actually out i have hope for it

umbral moss
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I mean, if the scaling AMD claims is to be believed it's something like 20-25% faster than the 5800X3D

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so that puts it firmly in the extremely fuckin fast category

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and since the 7950 has way more cores it won't eat shit in productivity apps

hard drift
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yeah, and they only showed the 7800x3d not the 7900x3d which has way more cache than the lesser x3d

umbral moss
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that's probably why they aggressively slashed the 7950X's price last month, the X3D will probably live in that $799 price point

hard drift
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it'll be a worthy cpu for a few years like i did with my 3700x

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massive gains ASevil

umbral moss
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I mean, if I'm going to end up wasting $500 on a board I'd like the CPU to be equally capable sad

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the 7900/7950 were kind of underwhelming for the price

hard drift
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500 on a board is just too much

umbral moss
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yeah, but there aren't many cheap AM5 boards

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unless they're like, 1 PCIe slot and nothing else on em

hard drift
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there are some decent ones it's when you go into the 670E/650E it gets expensive

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and idc about gen 5 storage 😐

umbral moss
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the 670E is kind of the only chipset that matters unless you're going deep budget

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I do, the 990 is gen 5 pogianger

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if I'm buying a new PC it better be the fastest you can get so I don't need to touch it for another 6-7 years pogianger

hard drift
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i doubt i'd ever really need gen 5 storage dorime atleast for a long while

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considering consoles aren't made for gen 5 and that's what a lot of games will be optimized based on i'll be okay dorime

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what we need is nvidia to make reasonable bus widths to their cards aside from just the 90 class

cerulean talon
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I really want to try some gen 5 storage soon >.>

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Not that I need more speed, but I need more speed, yanno?

paper tusk
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msi intro'ed a pcie stick that does 12 gb/sec but the 4kb random read is shit

kindred brook
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how hard is this

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to install yourself

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without electrocuting yourself

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taken you turn off

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the breaker

odd sand
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Probably in part because people knew they would have the X3D coming and were waiting. But also the high prices...

umbral moss
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it's not specifically that the x3d's inevitability cannibalized sales, so much as the extra core clock speed doesn't give you enough to justify the extra (stated) 60W power consumption

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that's more like 120W under practical use cases

potent arrow
odd sand
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Yeah it seems Intel, AMD, and Nvidia all drank the wackazade at the same time

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I really don't understand Nvidia's gameplan here over the next 5 years... they historically pushed like 15-30% gains gen-over-gen for like 20 years

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Then for the 40 series they decide to oversize the cards to push like 70-80% gains in one gen.

umbral moss
odd sand
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Do they know something we don't and still have huge gains in the wings when pushing into angstrom-tier litho?

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Or do they intend to keep trying to gaslight people on synthetic frames == real FPS gains with DLSS?

umbral moss
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probably a different transistor topology so they're all gearing up for radical changes

umbral moss
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AI 8k + 5G

umbral moss
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good

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just give me the exterior with a 1973 interior

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fucking hell

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why is it so hard to just put speakers and a bunch of knobs with a real steering wheel wearycarby

odd sand
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Although the memory bandwidth does kneecap it in 4K a bit.

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But they've so badly mismanaged the optics and PR the whole 40 series is kinda radioactive now

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Not a bad deal as much as the 30 series MSRPs could be considered "fair" at least.

umbral moss
odd sand
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Less than 10 years ago I had a GTX 770 for like $280 and now they want $800-900 for a 70 series card. Whatadeal

umbral moss
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to be fair, inflation has shot up almost the same between now and then playdead

modest moss
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slight exaggeration there

umbral moss
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did they zero out the last two years of price squeezes?

modest moss
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I dunno I just searched inflation calculator

odd sand
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How much you want to bet the 4060 will be 549 or 599?

umbral moss
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inflation in the last two years has been completely fucked, between price squeezes and direct M2 supply

umbral moss
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the 4050 needs to exist at $450-500

modest moss
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4050 should be fucking 200

umbral moss
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$100

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it's literally an HDMI chip on a PCB lmao

odd sand
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Isn't the future great?!

paper tusk
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smh

odd sand
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I guess if you're willing to just stick to 1080p gaming, you can still buy a GPU without bankrupting yourself. And can probably sit on it a lot longer too.

sly walrus
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but my 1440p

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165hz

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a refresh rate that most games don’t even know about

paper tusk
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in another server got the question of what vid card to buy (replacement. no signal on display ports even with different monitor). did my usual suggestions based on price to frame rate

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first reply i got is he wanted a fucking overpriced 3060 plain

hard drift
paper tusk
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even though 3060 ti was like only 30 bucks more

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I don't know what other fixes were attempted (bios battery, different cables, reseating)

hard drift
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lol

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i just know if a person really needs to save money or can't afford a gpu it can help at times dorime

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it's a shot in the dark though 😭

paper tusk
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yeah if it's the handshake controller or something can coax a little more life out of it

modest moss
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@hard drift yo AMD shill, did your mob announce/release the 7000 equivalent of 5600g yet?

hard drift
hard drift
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but so far no

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we know that the apus are going to be killer though given that some of the mobile line has 12 rdna 3 CUs so assuming it is at minimum that, you already have way more powerful than a steamdeck since it only uses 8 rdna2 CUs

hard drift
deep sapphire
hard drift
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smugdori too good for you so you won't use it?

dull garnet
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the newest game hank plays is deus ex

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1

deep sapphire
dull garnet
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don't remind me that square bought eidos

hard drift
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i refuse to buy anybody anything

jaunty light
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bido promised me a 7950x3d

hard drift
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i couldn't care less about what hank uses, it affects him not me lol

hard drift
jaunty light
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i quote bido verbatim "there will not be a 7950x3d, if there is I will buy you one"

hard drift
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and i still stand by that namazuconcern the 7900x3d is way better value unless you need the extra cores, 4mb of cache isn't worth 300 extra

jaunty light
#

dont try to get out of this, we got you dead to rights

hard drift
hard drift
#

just to claim it you better cough up the money haha

jaunty light
#

ill see wat pricing is

hard drift
#

it'll likely be around 800

#

hell, there's no reason why they can't price it around 1k

#

intel has literally nothing on them for gaming performance with x3d

#

13900ks for 2% extra fps at the cost of way more power and cost Pog

modest moss
jaunty light
#

money is the root of evil and we must cleanse it from our possession

hard drift
modest moss
hard drift
modest moss
#

He already has an amazing rig

hard drift
#

sure but that doesn't mean people aren't hobbyists AA_Hana_Shrug

modest moss
#

Wasting money is his hobby

hard drift
#

some people spend a shit ton on models and such, we spend a ton on tech ASevil

hard drift
modest moss
#

Go to work bidori

hard drift
#

i don't have work today

#

plus i was already at work today lol

jaunty light
hard drift
jaunty light
#

a trg22 is also acceptable

sly elk
#

this dude lol

jaunty light
#

he bougie

#

hayate otsu in red and a starlight

modest moss
umbral moss
#

it's one of the best bolt rifles ever made, to be more specific

hard drift
#

😒

umbral moss
#

the TRG42 is what the CS awp wishes it was

#

it's genuinely chambered in .338 lapua and has incredible long-range accuracy

#

(the actual awp, as pictured in all CS games, is chambered in 7.62x51mm, not .338 lapua and it's something that annoys me every time I see that god damned rifle)

dull garnet
#

guns r cringe

modest moss
#

I can't buy guns sorry what a shame

bitter girder
#

this fucking flu makes me want to put a bullet in my brain tbf

sly elk
#

i'm sorry you're feeling that bad though, I hope you feel better as soon as possible!

dull garnet
sly elk
#

i like the idea

hard drift
#

hope other aibs follow this dorime

bitter girder
#

That’s actually a really fun idea

hard drift
#

yeah, and the fact that they made it possible for smaller printers and such

#

especially when a lot of people complain "these cards look tacky af" or whatever

#

it allows uniqueness dorime

sly elk
#

sapphire used to sell cards with swappable shrouds

#

this is even better i suppose xd

hard drift
#

i know powercolor did the magnetic shroud thing on this gen of cards but pretty sure it was a limited run

dreamy chasm
#

that's actually really fucking cool

#

i can't wait to see what people do with this

#

actual card innovation for once Worrypoggers

hard drift
#

ikr

sly elk
#

lol I like how black magic calls their pocket cinema camera's sensor a "full-size 4/3 sensor"

#

shhh it's not full-frame

odd sand
#

Aren't there two sizes to APS though?

jaunty light
#

theres a few to aps

#

but 4/3 small

#

so idk what they are saying 4/3 is "Full size" to

jaunty light
sly elk
#

I figured it wasn't full frame because it was a $1300 video camera

#

there's just no way

#

look at sony

#

they took the a7iii and added an S and called it a video cam and charged $3k for it 😛

#

err wait does it even

#

the s uses a lower megapixel sensor?

#

I'm annoyed at the options for a new camera that does a good job at video lol

#

like I can get an a7c or a7iii that does a poor job at video in what I'd consider my budget

#

or I can get a GH4/GH5
hmm how about an s5....

#

at least the s5 isn't 4/3

jaunty light
#

the S is diff

#

i wouldnt buy a gh5 these days honestly

#

depends on how much u care about AF actually working

#

a7iii will be more than enough for amateur. wouldnt rec the a7iv

sly elk
#

yea an a7iv would be nice but a nice lens for these is like $800, no>

jaunty light
#

but on that note you are going to have to deal with obtuse sony menus and no flip screen on the a7iii

#

a7iv will overheat for video

sly elk
#

ahhh that sucks

#

i was reading some threads about affordable sony lenses and this was mentioned

jaunty light
#

thats E btw not FE

sly elk
#

well

#

shit 😄

#

thanks for pointing that out

jaunty light
#

GM lenses are $14-$3000

sly elk
#

but yeeaa I'm pretty sure if I go full frame

#

i'd go with an a7c or an a7iii

jaunty light
#

ye idk for any new systems. could check the gh5 2 but its 4/3 so massively less valuable (to me), the S5 (which is expensive), and the S1H (which is.. even more expensive)...

sly elk
#

4/3 bodies are sooo expensive for what they are lol

#

but it kinda makes sense

#

the $1500-2k 4/3 cameras have some of the feature sets the $3-5k full-frames do

jaunty light
#

i could never go back to 4/3 with the way the focal lengths work

#

be at the club with my 10mm lens trying to fit myself into the walls because its like 30mm on full frame

royal forge
#

anyone tried animated wallpapers?

sly walrus
#

eh

#

too distractin

jaunty light
#

cant possibly give up 1fps for that

burnt swallow
#

Micro-USB: Charges my controller
Also Micro-USB: Won't let me connect controller to PC

jaunty light
#

u gotta have the directional USB cable

#

gotta have arrows to send the bits to the computer

burnt swallow
burnt swallow
jaunty light
#

laughs in $200 logitech mice still using micro

sly walrus
#

my decision to avoid logitech remains justified

burnt swallow
#

I'm getting a bluetooth adapter tomorrow since my only working micro-USB cable has a broken connector sadgies

jaunty light
#

i needa figure out why my receiver is all fucky

#

razer one works flawlessly so idk

sharp star
#

I have phased out all but two Logitech products

#

a pair of speakers and a G600

sly walrus
#

i still have that $30 usb controller they put out

burnt swallow
#

I have a Razer Barracuda X headset, Razer Naga Trinity mouse and Apex SteelSeries 5 hybrid mechanical keyboard

jaunty light
#

only got the GPX, other than 400/403/305/518

burnt swallow
#

My mouse was acting up a while ago and I was trying to find myself a G600 but then it stopped acting up

sly elk
#

the whole

#

'your 50mm is as good as anyone else's 25mm' shit

#

when stuff like the a7c exists i'm not sure why anyone would spend >$1k for a m43 camera

#

unless they're doing video and can't afford a full frame video camera haha

jaunty light
#

a7c is basically just a smaller a7iii

sly elk
#

i get the impression the kit lens sucks

jaunty light
#

its not good

#

sony and nikon are by far the best mirrorless systems for LL

sly elk
#

i mean

#

an f<2.0 lens on just about anything should be good at low light lol

#

i'm still puzzled why you're having trouble with your aps-c

#

but i bet if i used my m43 in the same situation it'd be terrible, too

#

because the iso you're talking about

#

😮 I never go that high

#

like for me iso1600 is scandalous

#

but I am using a like 12 year old camera body

#

oh 10 years old*

#

and it used a really really good m43 sensor

#

-salutes olympus for using the same sensor in damn near all their cameras-

#

the om-d e-m5, e-pm2, e-pl5 all use the same 16mp sony sensor \

potent arrow
#

Buy my shit a6000 please

#

Give me an excuse to upgrade

#

tons of dead spots on the sensor and free extra crunchy emount

sly elk
#

i bought my brother a nikon a long time ago

#

hmm

#

i think it was this

#

very pretty little camera, took great pictures lol

potent arrow
#

I need more monitor spaaace

#

lmfao huuush

#

All I do is raid

sharp star
#

All I do is both

#

I have so much fucking materia that's gonna be used and sold on patch day

cerulean talon
#

There's no such thing as enough monitor space. There's always a need for more. :D

sharp star
#

actually yeah maybe I should get a third monitor for funsies

cerulean talon
#

Part of me wants to hook back up a monitor I've got on an arm, but it's behind my mic atm so it's not in a good visibility spot.

sharp star
#

psst hey kid you wanna buy some materia

cerulean talon
#

Wait, why do you need multiple large houses?

#

o.w

cerulean talon
#

*o.o

#

Ah.

#

Whytho. :D

sly elk
#

admittedly ice gave me gil to change over to the server he's on

#

could live like a rockstar on there prolly

potent arrow
#

: 3

#

Wanna drop like 10mill gil on my asshole so i can buy glam shit

#

:3

#

For legal reasons that was a joke

sharp star
#

I just wanna make sure I drop as little gil on materia and crafting mats as I can

#

especially materia

potent arrow
#

I am an omnicrafter

#

I can make my own shit

#

but im too lazy

#

so I drop gil

cerulean talon
#

I need to go finish farming tomes pre-patch in case they drop something there.

#

But got my gemstones sorted.

#

Not sure, we already have 9/10, so doubt it.

sharp star
mystic olive
#

Good morning guys, are we allowed to discuss FFXIV installation setups for steam deck here? Mine's not booting anymore!

sharp star
#

yes

#

!faq steamdeck

opal pantherBOT
mystic olive
#

Nvm it booted now lol thanks though

lost python
cerulean talon
dull garnet
#

if I were buying rn i'd get a 6700 XT no cap

#

more vram and slightly better raster performance vs my 3060 ti

potent arrow
#

My 3060ti is surprising a none issue rn for me

#

Compared to the rest of my system

dull garnet
#

same, i just mean in the context of buying right now and what is available and for what price

#

3060 ti (when available at nvidia) is £380 vs 6700 xt for £400

lost python
cerulean talon
lost python
#

thats one game yes

cerulean talon
#

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I want it in more. :P

#

But control is good enough I keep wanting it. Also, AMD needs more vram to be considered viable for my setups.

lost python
#

i can think of like two others where its noticably different during gameplay. i just wish more devs would hyperfocus less on reflections and put more work into global illumination

lost python
cerulean talon
#

6900xt is still a 16g card.

lost python
#

7900xtx is not

cerulean talon
#

Yeah, that's auctually a considerating for my move.

#

But I'm on a 3090ti atm, so I'm not going anywhere.

#

But yes, the newest AMD cards are finally getting reasonable levels of VRam.

lost python
#

maybe someday prices normalize again and nvidia stops being dumb, so i can actually buy them again and feel good about it

cerulean talon
#

I don't feel good about it, but they drive my 4k monitors the best.

#

So they get my money. :P

dull garnet
#

nvidia vram amounts are kind of a joke if you're looking below the 3090/Ti

#

3080 has less than a 1080 Ti

lost python
cerulean talon
#

Though I'm not a fan of the changes to the vbios in this generation for AMD.

sharp star
#

(also naming schemes)

cerulean talon
#

They're not /that/ bad. :P

#

I like the current set better than the RX vega line insanity. 56/64/pro? I think was that setup.

#

When you also had the 470-490 and 570-590 RX cards.

#

Oh, frontier edition was the pro one.

#

Right.

#

That entire line of cards was wildly fun tho

dull garnet
#

member the radeon vii

sharp star
#

I think the GT 430/630/730/1030 were worse

dull garnet
#

good for mining and uhhhhhhh

cerulean talon
#

You probally used a miner a close friend of mine wrote. :P

#

AMD cards were kings of mining for so long.

dull garnet
#

dat hbm

cerulean talon
#

Mmhmm.

dull garnet
#

radeon vii did like twice the hash rate of my 3060 ti

cerulean talon
#

Monero was absurd on them, because it was, at that time, memory bandwidth hard.

#

So the RX vegas were running rampant w/ HBM.

potent arrow
#

Mmm

#

I just tried out a 144hz monitor

#

Back to 60hz rofl

dull garnet
#

60 hurts xdddd

sharp star
#

60 is weird for me

#

30 I'm fine with for some games

potent arrow
#

Anything more then 60 my eyes go crossed

hard drift
sly walrus
#

at a cost of “not as bad as a 4080”

#

no

hard drift
#

i think they're just going based on price hikes vs previous gen

#

but it's still horrible lol

#

nvidia needs to drop pricing and then slot in a 4080 ti at the 1200 price point already 😐

sly walrus
#

graphics cards should be $1

cerulean talon
#

I won't go 1$, but they should be more reasonable than they are now.

hard drift
#

last gen pricing + 100 at most

cerulean talon
#

I wouldn't go that route either, IMO, they need to be reasonable to what their auctual parts costs are.

#

I also thoroughly beleive that the crypto insanity damaged that industry forever, and keep hoping someone new will pop up.

sharp star
#

right now the 4080 12GB 4070 Ti is about as powerful as the 3080

hard drift
#

in the end they still need to make a profit, if they're selling at around what their parts cost it's probably going to be a loss

#

for prices to start going down we need nvidia to go chiplet since monolithic is getting too expensive

cerulean talon
#

AMD's going that route already, Nvidia likely isn't far behind.

hard drift
#

yeah, and amd can probably afford to drop prices and should namazuconcern

cerulean talon
#

My gut reaction says we're gonna have some weirdly sized chiplets.

hard drift
#

i mean that's fine dorime as long as it drives cost down

cerulean talon
#

As a developer on them, it's weird. :P

hard drift
#

SCGgun it's fine

cerulean talon
#

It's already weird thinking about having the same code executing in multiples of 64 only

#

:D

#

Dunno, I feel like chiplet GPU's are gonna be way harder than chiplet CPU's due to the way data is accessed and managed on them.

hard drift
#

i mean, they're for sure capable of figuring it out

cerulean talon
#

I'll also take "More fabs plz" from ASML, and "Can someone please compete with TSMC" thanks.

hard drift
#

amd did it nvidia can surely do it too

cerulean talon
#

Oh yeah, no question, I just think it's gonna be harder than it seems at first glance.

cerulean talon
#

Yeah, right.

hard drift
cerulean talon
#

Probally a decade. >.>

hard drift
#

lol

cerulean talon
#

Which is fine, if they fall behind, people will move.

hard drift
#

the mindshare is slowly collapsing

cerulean talon
#

I need to see how the 7xxx series cards are doing this time around, now that they auctually have a little vram.

hard drift
#

the 4070 ti is a huge nail in the coffin at its price

cerulean talon
#

Nvidia also can't ride the ETH wave anymore, so.

cerulean talon
#

That's noctua tho.

#

You know they went for quiet over raw perf.

sharp star
hard drift
cerulean talon
#

All notctua coolers are huge.

#

That's just how it be.

#

Not like you're gonna use any of the other PCIe slots.

hard drift
#

people need to open their eyes ASevil

cerulean talon
#

I mean, I do too, but at that point, I'm not buying a noctua card either.

sharp star
hard drift
#

"Noctua confirmed that the RTX 4080 will be equipped with two NF-A12x25 brown and beige fan. A large diameter of the fans and custom made vapor chamber will ensure that the card remain the quietest RTX 4080 on the market with typical temperatures not exceeding 61.7°C, the company claims."

#

62 max temp Pog

cerulean talon
cerulean talon
#

Here, have something even bigger than a noctua. :D

hard drift
cerulean talon
#

There's one on my old 5950x.

hard drift
#

it's coming this year

cerulean talon
#

Great cooler tho.

#

Also, is it?

hard drift
#

they're working on a copper baseplate version which works even better and a liquid cooler that doesn't need a pump

cerulean talon
#

Oooooh. I likey.

hard drift
#

the copper plate version was already shown off with splave

cerulean talon
#

I didn't have anywhere near the room in this build, so I just slapped an AIO on, but I'll have to keep an eye out for the next one.

hard drift
cerulean talon
#

Eh, I don't watch LTT>

sharp star
#

Oh I checked the prices of the non-X Zen 4 SKUs

#

ridiculous that it's $70-120 for a letter

hard drift
#

considering the thing failed originally for the non copper

cerulean talon
#

Not bad.

cerulean talon
hard drift
cerulean talon
#

Not entirely.

hard drift
#

yeah, but you can get extremely close with tweaking

cerulean talon
#

Ye.

sharp star
hard drift
#

also here's the splave results

cerulean talon
#

Don't get me wrong, not worth it for 99% of cases, but nor is buying massively overlcocked ram, breaking out ryzentweaker, and binning ramsticks.

real edge
#

air cooling is fine in 99% of cases

#

get a beefy cooler like the ak620 or deep rock pro 4 or whatever

#

you are set up for all cpus

cerulean talon
#

Also true.

#

Tbh, in general noctuas work fine for cooling just abut anything, it's just weird cases they don't play well.

real edge
#

ofc a noctua will not 5ghz all core a 13900k or whatever

#

it depends on how hot the chip is

#

but

#

all amd cpus on eco mode with the cooler are fine

#

will OC well cause eco mode disables some bs that amd put

cerulean talon
#

Yeah, but if you're buying k's, x's, etc, you generally are gonna OC the hell out if it.

#

The 5950x I had was 125w nominal, it was regularly pulling 300w before I retired that machine.

#

In general tho, if you're using the chips the way they were designed, even OEM coolers will usually handle the worst of it.

hard drift
#

SCGgun begone

dull garnet
#

lets face it most people buy aio because they like the ~aesthetics~

potent arrow
#

3900x still running without fannssss

hard drift
potent arrow
dull garnet
#

nah

hard drift
dull garnet
#

hunk of metal is more sxc

potent arrow
#

LMFAOOOO

dull garnet
#

joins to shill laptop sale

cerulean talon
#

I mean, you can run anything without fans if you include enough passive heatsink size.

vestal crane
#

Oi, no selling shit here

dawn cave
#

Go Cleave?

royal forge
#

Damn

#

Did i miss a bonk?

dawn cave
#

Not yet

vestal crane
#

Nah

dull garnet
cerulean talon
#

Even past that, there's DC's like switch which have so much throough-rack airlfow you can entirely go without fans, and just let the passive sinks deal with it.

hard drift
cerulean talon
hard drift
#

it'll be okay dorime once sarah takes it apart to make it a 7950x3d machine or whatever it will be fixed hopefully

cerulean talon
#

fixed -never-

hard drift
#

if sarah doesn't fix it despite taking it apart...

#

the person that spoke named sarah 😭

cerulean talon
#

No fix, just more passive cooling nods

hard drift
#

😐

#

it wasn't at you

cerulean talon
#

I don't have a texas emote, or I'd use it here.

#

:3

cerulean talon
#

Not there any more, but did spend plenty of years in Houston.

sharp star
#

<@&100464652139368448> yeah uh might wanna get rid of this

real edge
#

do not post andrew tate here

dull garnet
#

🛌

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Best country song ever made

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90s country hits right, you could hate the genre and still find enjoyment in it

jaunty light
#

salesforce? dragonforce

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
#

Hell yeah

#

We’re regularly off topic you’re fine lmao

jaunty light
#

music was recorded with technology

#

on topic

dull garnet
#

technology is actually to share mechanic anecdotes

#

buy it

jaunty light
#

ngl the S mount sucks ecosystem wise

#

they have very few lenses comparable to son'ys

#

16-35 f4 for lumix, 16-35 f/2.8 on sony

sly elk
#

sigh

#

ok if LTT makes a video saying "don't use water coolers"

#

at least that isn't going to turn into everyone on reddit yelling at people to not use WCs

#

(but if steve does, we're screwed)

dull garnet
#

buy $200 aio to cool your 65w cpu 🙏

sly elk
hard drift
hard drift
#

first video i found and it's not throttling AA_Hana_Shrug

dull garnet
#

cinebench is weaksauce

hard drift
dull garnet
#

lot of worry going into outdated hardware...

hard drift
#

lmao

#

it's not outdated, it's just not the latest and greatest

#

i'm honestly excited to upgrade my cpu dorime

#

3700x -> 7900x3d will be such a great upgrade

dull garnet
#

3700x to 5900x would be doggers, zen 2 was shite

hard drift
sly elk
#

i thought bidori was an intel person

modest moss
#

lol no he's an amd shill

#

he's the main amd shill in this channel

potent arrow
hard drift
hard drift
sly elk
#

i think that's the way to go haha

#

but I admit

#

I'm a "whichever is prettier to me" person

hard drift
#

i don't get to see my pc insides much so idc about looks lol

#

the only thing i care about is no rgb because i hate seeing it out of the corner of my eye

modest moss
#

bidori is lying

hard drift
#

why do you think i keep asking for a 4080 ti 😐

modest moss
#

@deep sapphire bidori is trying to say he's not an amd shill

hard drift
#

and to make it the 1200 dollar price

modest moss
#

Hank will be here to mute you shortly

hard drift
#

that's fine dorime

#

while he's at it please kick me 😭

#

in other news, amds new box design for x3d looks nice dorime

#

intels old box design probably did lol

#

the dodecahedron thing or whatever it was

#

it'll be covered by my cooler so i won't see it

#

not to mention i'd be dumb not to buy it vs anything else

#

the gains are just too great dorime

deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Bidori my friend works at AMD

#

I’ll ask him to get you a job but you gotta move to Austin Texas

hard drift
#

i am not qualified 😐

deep sapphire
#

Sure you are you never stop talking about AMD!

hard drift
#

also hell no, texas is awful

deep sapphire
#

I bet you’ve never even been there lmao

hard drift
#

i have smh

#

i lived there not too long ago

deep sapphire
#

Everywhere you go sucks

hard drift
#

😐

deep sapphire
#

Besides I bet your ass lived at ft hood

#

Ofc it’s bad

hard drift
#

LMFAO

#

we did live near it

#

but yeah, i don't like texas either way

deep sapphire
#

Yeah ft hood is like the ghetto military

#

Lmao

hard drift
#

everywhere in texas is a ghetto

deep sapphire
#

Autism is super liberal

#

Omg

#

Lmao

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Austin!

hard drift
#

i know lmfao

deep sapphire
#

That’s the most unfortunate typo I’ve ever made

#

I’m crying rn

#

🤣🤣🤣

hard drift
#

#cancelhank2023

deep sapphire
#

Fuckin phone

hard drift
#

lmao

#

that was great

#

best screenshot moment ever dorime

dull garnet
#

"typo"

#

big apple at work frfr

deep sapphire
hard drift
#

meanwhile hank has still kept the typo instead of correcting it haha

deep sapphire
#

I am atoning for my mistake

#

Gonna pin it

hard drift
#

LMAO

#

the admins are going to warn you

deep sapphire
#

Good

sly elk
#

lol

potent arrow
#

I found a titan Z in my basement looking for parts

#

what the fuck

sly elk
#

and here's how hank loses his blue text haha

potent arrow
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Back into the box of shame you go

sly elk
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why do you have a titan z

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ahh so BMW is doing subscriptions now in the US

hard drift
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so a one time fee on top of a subscription.... that's stupid

sly elk
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the article explained it's a one time fee or a subscription in those cases

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but other options have no one-time-fee option

hard drift
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ah okay

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yeah, that's dumb

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although you could get 3rd party parts for it

sly elk
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i wonder what kinda logic is being applied for the dash cam

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like I gfet paying a fee for anything cloud based

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but why does the 'driver recorder' need to be cloud based

hard drift
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the fact that it helps you with insurance or some shit probably

lime wasp
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Anyone know what case this is?

dull garnet
lime wasp
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Okay but do you have one without the fish?

fair parcel
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Give me that tank DA_CatGasp

hard drift
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the screen is probably a mod

lime wasp
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I see. Thanks.

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It actually looks pretty cool, and if had decent thermals I might consider it.

hard drift
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we'll see when they come out dorime

lime wasp
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Man I wanna keep to ITX builds.

Even this MATX case I have is a little big for my desk and tastes right now.
The problem is that CPUs and GPUs keep getting warmer and warmer and bigger.
AM5 and 13th Gen practically demand a 360mm Radiator.

hard drift
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they don't demand it dorime you just need to adjust the curve and such

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plus the new x3d parts for am5 will be a lower tdp

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so it's slightly better dorime

lime wasp
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I hope they're not as impossible to get as the 5800x3D was

hard drift
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probably will be for a while

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unless you have a microcenter that is

lime wasp
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Like that thing was available at first, then people found out how good it was for gaming and it goddamn disappeared

lime wasp
hard drift
dreamy chasm
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just had to limit wattage

hard drift
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yeah dorime i know

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and i have no problem with that

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in the end, the gains vs my 3700x will be massive ASevil

lime wasp
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I feel like limiting the wattage on parts kinda defeats the purpose no?

Because if you limit the power you kneecap it and basically downgrade it.

(Or in the case of my last two GPUs just make them not work period.)

hard drift
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not true, there's a point where the gains don't outweigh the powerdraw

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here's an example

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yes there's performance left out but depending on your use case, you might not be losing out on much

lime wasp
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Hmm.

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Maybe I'm just bias from trying to undervolt my last two GPUs and having it be abysmal failure.

hard drift
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gpus are different that cpus though namazuconcern

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and even with gpus, there's a point where it drops off a cliff for gains vs powerdraw

jaunty light
hard drift
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ikr dorime

lime wasp
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It looks nice, but I'm wondering about airflow and if the GPU is able to be set far enough back from the glass

hard drift
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most of the time you're fine

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not to mention... are you really doing vertical mounting?

lime wasp
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I feel like those kinds of cases are meant for vertical mounting

hard drift
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i mean sure, but it's still based on use case

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some like vertical, some like horizontal

lime wasp
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And in my case since since I mostly do SFF vertical mount is the only mount