He claims the USB controller was dying and I gave him an addon card with USB instead, but I don't see it in the computer after he gave it to me so I think he was lying when he said he tried it and it didnt help
#technology-discussion
odd sand
potent arrow
Just like an excuse to upgrade I guess shinon
odd sand
It is 10yo so something on the mainboard failing is understandable but
I like to re-use PCs and if its still usable ill just pass it on to another relative or friends kids
potent arrow
Same
Most people don't realize most 10 yr old configs still work well
Especially for people who use it for browsing, word shit, Fortnite, hell even ff14 if you wanted
odd sand
Slap a used 1660 super into it for like $100 and its great for minecraft or even low/med 1080p gaming for current titles
potent arrow
Just gotta temper your expectations a bit and play on potato
odd sand
Yeah which is why a lot of ppl saying they "need" an upgrade and they tell me their specs im like 🤔
GPU needs upgrading more often, but CPUs you can stretch for easily 7+ years these days
And even GPUs are stretching more than they used to. 10 series is still passable
But yeah you just have to stick to 1080p and not try expecting 1440p
potent arrow
GPU needs upgrading more often, but CPUs you can stretch for easily 7+ years the...
I ain't telling people that they just want shiney
I want da $$$
odd sand
Oh sure, as a biz I know you won't talk them out of it but from the perspective of me giving upgrade advice here or elsewhere, it depends on their use-case, budget, and resolution
potent arrow
I will always offer an i3/6600/16gb build got example. But they'll never take it
potent arrow
i3 4090 128gb ram
cough ICE
late basalt
GPU needs upgrading more often, but CPUs you can stretch for easily 7+ years the...
I’ve had my current gpu longer than both my current and previous cpu
potent arrow
Show urself
late basalt
Tbf, only because I’m not willing to spend 50-70% of my upgrade total cost on just a gpu
potent arrow
I'm only really worried about my CPU rn lmfao
But I'm forced to upgrade to a better system soon
Turns out I directly soldered the fans to the motherboard, the pcie slot for the gpu is cracked, ram is corroded into the slot
late basalt
….
potent arrow
If Imma replace all of that, that's just an upgrade lll
late basalt
Tbf, only reason I had to do a “core” upgrade as well was because my last cpu was a 3rd gen iseries
So I definitely got my mileage out of it
potent arrow
Mines currently a 3900x
It's
It works I guess
Would be better if it had any cooling
potent arrow
The motherboard was from a clients pc iirc
Headers broke off or something and I didn't want to waste the board
dull garnet
I always wanted to solder all the psu connections from the backside so all the wires were truly hidden
potent arrow
Now that sounds like a fire hazard
dull garnet
late basalt
More like Bomb hazard
Considering you’d need to clip header pins off, as well as make sure you had the orientation right
potent arrow
If I can do work with a ts100, anything will work if you try hard enough
uncut cape
Nice my PC is getting some serious upgrades, gonna have like a 3070 a new 850 power supply, an actual SSD that isn't filled by stuff from Windows and actually has space (seriously wtf windows) and a new curved screen because my last screen has a perma dirty screen and a broken power button forcing me to cut the screen power when I want to close it
dreamy chasm
I want to get a ts100
uncut cape
Time to play old school RuneScape
dull garnet
pinecil looks good
mortal condor
4070ti
$800
Nvidia stops price gouging when
dull garnet
for better than 3090 ti performance 800 doesn't seem that bad to me
call me crazy
gamers don't need that
cries in 3090
lost python
if its actually better
its probably gonna be 2% at best
and then its like.. why should i take this over a 3090 with more vram?
dull garnet
i'd rather more frames
odd sand
Turns out I directly soldered the fans to the motherboard, the pcie slot for the...
Dunno about replacing the pcie slot, but the fans you could just cut the plugs off and add new ones right? Or does it have limited fan headers on the board? Could power them directly from the PSU but would lose PWM of course
digital mica
anyone here playing on the steam deck?
bitter girder
truuueeeee
dull garnet
royal forge
Make this emote available on this server
Or sticker
Booo
Also, probably copyright
Oh. I heard some funny info
Ya guys know airasia?
The airline?
Hackers got into their system and went "fuck that shit" cuz it was a clusterfuck
dull garnet
horizon zero sleep
more like
horizon go to sleep
mortal condor
It's always been the case that 6gb of Vram is not only more than enough for gaming at 1080p but also enough for 1440p in most cases
Who made the claims that it suddenly isn't?
That's....concerning
bitter girder
true
mortal condor
Game: Time to use 99% of your Vram because...that's what I do
User: How dare you
sharp star
New World bricking GPUs was a fun time too
lost python
It's always been the case that 6gb of Vram is not only more than enough for gami...
lol no. not for 1440p
plenty of games already hit 10gb for me there
even worse if you are like me and also like to mod games
odd sand
Game: Time to use 99% of your Vram because...that's what I do
User: How dare yo...
Same energy as people angry that Windows caches frequently used data 
lost python
in any case there is absolutely no reason why a GPU for so much money should have that little vram these days
jaunty light
dull garnet
sharp star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMxU4BDIm4M 3D cache CPUs please and thanks
sharp star
sharp star
they are snorting some of the worst stuff known to man
The 4070 Tie having three times the performance of the 3090 Tee Aye is a really bold claim
and yes that was intentional
sly elk
I wonder if the next jeep refresh will bring square headlights
since everything 80s is cool again
royal forge
Lmao
odd sand
That seems to be a common occurrence for him these days
sharp star
sly elk
i mentioned that in the other chat XD
it's like april fools in january
Withings says that the U-Scan can be used by multiple people as it is able to distinguish between users through a Stream ID feature.
Withings is launching the U-Scan in Europe in the second quarter of 2023, and it will be priced at 499.95 euros for the reader and one cartridge. U-Scan will be available in the United States following future FDA testing.
copper monolith
I wonder if theres XDA keycaps with backlite letters out there
sly elk
ya know what I want?
man if I still worked in the office I'd put these on someone's keyboard when they were having their day off lol
sharp star
god I need to find a webcam for videoconferencing but all I did was go to a Dell store, spot an Alienware Aurora R13, and play GN’s scathing review of it on the monitor behind it
dull garnet
That video was funny
Of all the times to have water outage
When you're building an aquarium pc
sly elk
seriously though it went out december 24th and remained out for days
lots of christmases ruined
potent arrow
Dunno about replacing the pcie slot, but the fans you could just cut the plugs o...
Late response because I'm jus tnow going through replies lol, the board is just a mess and rework would be a pia
Not to mention how there's so much corrosion on it, it looks like someone spilt milk on it
sharp star
most of steve's videos feel that way though
late but I do share Steve’s sentiment towards PC hardware lately; last year was very depressing because GPUs are dumb
dreamy chasm
At least the market for mid-range wasn't completely dumb
dreamy chasm
y u p
low end market does seem to need some help though
the 6500xt and 6400 is
kind of horrible
sly elk
It looks like something out of a magazine
I scrolled up looking for Sarah's carnage but i couldn't fins any
wide hill
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/03/ces-2023-withings-u-scan/ PISS ID
does it allow you to unlock your phone while peeing so you don't have to unlock it with faceid
sharp star
does it allow you to unlock your phone while peeing so you don't have to unlock ...
god I hope so, but it doesn’t tell you that “urine trouble” if you get a bad result
so 0/10
umbral moss
does it allow you to unlock your phone while peeing so you don't have to unlock ...
dickID is apple's next Big Thing
wide hill
Think Different 
copper monolith
sharp star
sharp star
You heard him, the 4070 Ti is perfect for babies
paper tusk
need for less shit system intensifies
jaunty light
https://youtu.be/HfWaE40x_Bk
300bux
odd sand
Late response because I'm jus tnow going through replies lol, the board is just ...
I see. If you sacrifice the board, can you rescue the memory at least?
umbral moss
85 fps is typical for 1440 on my system 
hard drift
Yikes
kind rune
Is this 100p
modern iris
What is this thing for? It's attached to one of my 4 pin fan adapters. I've wondered for the longest time
kind rune
im probably wrong but i think its for daisy chaining
modern iris
My guess would be it attached to mother board somewhere for pwm
umbral moss
that looks like PWM, but if it's from the PSU it's an ancient power connector
void dove
4 pin doesn't mean much, 4 pin what? picture of the whole adapter?
a lot of computer cables are 4 pins
hell molex is 4 pin, and used for shitty fan power sometimes
void dove
ohhh lol
thats not a fan adapter
its a floppy drive power cable
fucking hell
it should be coming from the PSU, not a fan adapter cable
it has no place on an adapter
modern iris
Yeah I had no idea
void dove
ive not seen one of those in fuckin years
void dove
molex and those are usually chained together OFF the PSU power cables
as in the floppy drive cable, splits off the molex near the end
as its the same config, 4 pins, same voltages, etc
umbral moss
also means don't plug it into the fan headers because it's +12V lmao
void dove
ive never seen any kinda adapter with it on it, doesn't make sense
possible, yes, would anyone do it? probably not
modern iris
I'm not sure if it came with one of my fans or with the psu
void dove
fans definitely not
PSU, maybe
no fan maker would ship a cable like that, not in the last 20 years anyway
not their problem to give you a floppy drive cable :/
modern iris
But anyway PC is like 10 degrees cooler with my case fans hooked up
2 exhaust back and top 2 intake in front
royal forge
I really shouldnt look at GPU prices
I've built the PC, so i shouldnt care what the current price is
Ye. Its just..
Ya know
hard drift
What card do you have?
hard drift
Lol
Just look at the 4070 ti and be happy
It’s dogshit price to performance 
It’s last gen performance for last gen prices pretty much
royal forge
Ye. The 4090s still have that same ridiculous price
And i dont expect it to drop any time soon
hard drift
The segmentation this generation is huge
It leaves massive gaps and yet there will not be something to bring it close since the 4070 ti exists
royal forge
It also means payin boat loads for a completely "new release" stuff too
hard drift
4070 ti still leaves a huge gap between that and the 80
Can’t wait for 4080 ti to bridge that gap
royal forge
I wanted to say that nvidia are mad to drive the price up like that
hard drift
4050 with 64 bit memory bus
royal forge
But AMD also seems to be idiots
hard drift
But AMD also seems to be idiots
They both are lol
dull garnet
after marriage
royal forge
Prude
hard drift
Sex anyone?
no
modern iris
Your power bill will start hemorrhaging
umbral moss
time to just install a small nuclear reactor 😌
modern iris
Good god
hard drift
Baseboard heating smh waste of money
modern iris
My bill was 67$ I heat with propane
umbral moss
My bill was 67$ I heat with propane
odd sand
My entire power and heating bill is like 10% that oof
dull garnet
some people boast about gpu power
odd sand
I go the "Japanese" route of basically heating my place via the waste heat of the PC and a small radiant heater with a blanket to trap the heat heh
dull garnet
ice boasts about electricity bills
modern iris
When it gets cold as fuck and I'm out I turn on space heater
I just stick it in my small bedroom nice and toasty
odd sand
Obviously with a house it's harder to save heating costs short of not using it. At least unless you have a newer house with the heat pumps
My heat is set to 68F but it basically doesn't turn on unless im sleeping in which case the PC is in Sleep and the radiant heater is off
umbral moss
Obviously with a house it's harder to save heating costs short of not using it. ...
run everything off a nuclear reactor 
hard drift
My heat is set to 68F but it basically doesn't turn on unless im sleeping in whi...
Just turn off your heat like my family 
potent arrow
I see. If you sacrifice the board, can you rescue the memory at least?
I'm not sure, I'm gonna take channel locks and try to pull them out lol
odd sand
Got some penetrating oil? lol
deep sapphire
Sarah has a mixture of dexron 3 and acetone
snow cypress
Does anyone own or have had this monitor stand and if so is it good?
odd sand
Has a lot of reviews, so you could probably found out from those. In general you get what you pay for so the build quality probably isn't the greatest for $60 usd
minor hollow
wow what are the odds
never look at this channel and click it by accident
i have that monitor stand
it's served me well for about 2 years
i will say, I do not use the "USB extension" thing though
i'm not 100% sure it's the same one but i have a dual monitor stand from the same brand that looks similar. feel like i paid a bit more than $60, but it's in the right range
i've never had any wobble but i don't adjust my monitors often if at all.
inland mauve
idk even their target audience feels the recession in their purse
a lot of Nvidias get left on the shelves now
also feels like the crypto miners became their new target audience, but most of those have moved on to the next grift
late basalt
I see. If you sacrifice the board, can you rescue the memory at least?
Depending on how old the board is, is it even worth trying to salvage?
sly elk
i'm leaning hard on no
odd sand
They have a lot of older systems and parts to put together into regifted computers
So it could still be useful
late basalt
True, but if it’s that corroded, it’d probably be damaged on removal
odd sand
Won't know until you try. And it's only the copper contacts, so theoretically you could clean them up with a brush and iso
If the PC was already still working it can't be that bad
hard drift
the mad lads actually are doing it
seems like the 7900x3d will be the sweetspot for cache
sharp star
"Do we have any gamers in the house"
hard drift
finally an upgrade worthy for my 3700x 
can't wait to see how the 7900x3d performs
also these rdna mobile cpus
sharp star
hard drift
laptop rdna 3 is going to be a game changer
finally some good igpus since rdna 2 ones really didn't get made much
potent arrow
I can hear my wallet exploding
sly elk
beginning to think I should revisit my renters insurance policy limits xD
kindred brook
how much
hard drift
7950x3d is dumb anyways unless you need the extra cores
7900x has 4mb less cache making it the better choice for gamers
Not to mention, they’re going to be toasty
pastel tapir
gritty belfry
also these rdna mobile cpus <:Pog:533390478360444928>
bido explain
deep sapphire
But yes you are correct
pastel tapir
HANK I HAVE TO LEARN LINUX NEXT WEEK PLS SAVE ME
deep sapphire
IPv4 is still used in WAN but windows also had a v6 address too
deep sapphire
HANK I HAVE TO LEARN LINUX NEXT WEEK PLS SAVE ME
Have fun remembering command line lmao
It’s scary at first but you’ll get use to it
pastel tapir
My professor says linux doesnt show us what we type??
pastel tapir
Like, you will try typing a command and he says you wont see it or something
Idk
Its week 4 and ive barely had the time to digest the last bit of information before i get a whole new plate of information
deep sapphire
I’m only experiencing with Debian and Ubuntu server but both show what you are typing so I don’t know what he means
Linux has many different distros
modern iris
HANK I HAVE TO LEARN LINUX NEXT WEEK PLS SAVE ME
It looks scary, but learning to use the terminal instead of a UI actually becomes 2nd nature
sly elk
i guess you can get a 7950x3d with a 7950xtx
deep sapphire
Ubuntu is the most commonly used
sly elk
that would be nice.
pastel tapir
Oh honk have you tried HackTheBox
deep sapphire
Nope
sly elk
if I ran AMD
deep sapphire
pastel tapir
But holy shit lmfao i needed virtual box and OpenVPN for it
deep sapphire
God I hate openVPN
pastel tapir
I do too cuz wtf.
sly elk
maybe make a version with hdmi input and call it all-in-wonder
deep sapphire
Infact I hate free software the documentation is always terrible
sly elk
gotta reuse the old names
modern iris
Anything to do with proxying or time stamps will always be hell on earth to deal with
That will never change
sly elk
the hell
deep sapphire
Networking can be awful when you have to actually do work but it’s rare that you have to do anything significant
And it pays well
It’s like the 99/1 rule
99 percent boredom
1 percent you wanna cry
pastel tapir
Funny enough, my field is not in Networking
modest moss
Omg new girl in tech, best behaviour boys
pastel tapir
But my professor believes its necessary to learn the basics of networking
deep sapphire
Most of your job will be creating new clients for VPNs and adding new addresses to a port on a switch lmal
pastel tapir
Omg new girl in tech, best behaviour boys
No u 
deep sapphire
Lmao**
pastel tapir
My major is cybersecurity
So
He said
I have to learn about networking but i dont have to memorize the details of it
modern iris
Of what?
deep sapphire
Firewalls and port security will be a major focus for you
modern iris
The closet?
deep sapphire
Maya post your cat girl
pastel tapir
Yes, thats also what he said
deep sapphire
modern iris
Have fun with iptables
pastel tapir
The ports stuff makes me cry
deep sapphire
Fuck iptables
pastel tapir
Like port 68 being for this and port 413 being for that
modern iris
Fuck iptables
pastel tapir
modern iris
No way a real human memorizes all of this
I 100% believe it, that was me the last few years
deep sapphire
You’ll never use HTTP for anything other than local web pages
modern iris
Tfw you start a project back in 2015 & it launches a full-stack hobby
deep sapphire
HTTPS has whats called TLS/SSL certificates
pastel tapir
Cuz not only can i reset the default password but i can literally troll my whole household
Ssl? Secure shell link?
Or whatever
Wait thats ssh i think
I hate the billion abbreviations
deep sapphire
It’s basically a way to verify a website is legit, it’s not 100 percent full proof but it’s better than nothing
SSH is just secure shell
modern iris
JSON, TTL, CSS, HTML, HTTP, HTTPS
pastel tapir
Https and http are similar iirc
deep sapphire
I was in the army you wanna see abbreviation hell
pastel tapir
One is just secure and the other is not
hard drift
I was in the army you wanna see abbreviation hell
That’s any government job
pastel tapir
Cuz apparently the early days of the internet had no concept of security
deep sapphire
Yeah
gritty belfry
Explain what?
picture
deep sapphire
When you see a prompt saying “this website is not secure”
gritty belfry
what it do
deep sapphire
All that’s saying is the web page doesn’t have a valid certificate
And thus not HTTPS
pastel tapir
Yep. It said that when i went into my router settings
modern iris
SSL, YAML, SSH, API, Apache, Rust, C#, C++, Python, Lua, Caddy, Redis, Postgres, MSQL, Slite3, SQLite, Kotlin
@pastel tapir
pastel tapir
At first i watched my classmate do that and i asked her why tf her shit said it wasnt secure
deep sapphire
What a fuckin nerd!
pastel tapir
And hank its so scary cuz the default passwords to the router infos are easily google-able
deep sapphire
You can disable WAN login in the router
Which pretty much mitigates most risk regardless of the password
pastel tapir
My teacher also wanted me to turn off my ssid broadcast until he saw all 20+ devices hooked up to my network
deep sapphire
Obviously people can WiFi snoop and shit but let’s be real who’s sitting in a 1998 Pontiac sun fire out of your house attempting that
pastel tapir
Obviously people can WiFi snoop and shit but let’s be real who’s sitting in a 19...
Literally no one but still its wild lmfao
deep sapphire
My ssid is catgirlsrsexy
hard drift
what it do
It’s a graphics architecture
pastel tapir
I didnt touch it cuz he said all of my smart devices would have to reconnect manually
I dont have that type of time.
hard drift
It just means cpus finally getting some good integrated graphics
pastel tapir
Yeah. He was saying its good to stop the ssid broadcast for this n that
pastel tapir
Yep
But i dont wanna do that on my smart washer
And neither does my dad or my grandma
hard drift
what it do
Now that’s all I’m answering, I’m going to bed 😭
deep sapphire
If you care about security the best thing you can do is move all IoT devices to a VLAN
deep sapphire
Please not another term
VLAN just means virtual lan hahaha
hard drift
sleep tight
I’ll try but likely won’t 😭 sick and too much on my mind
deep sapphire
It’s basically a “separate network” but not
VLAN is crucial in cyber security so I would learn it as well
Very very important
severe flax
@deep sapphire Hank are ya ready for Userbenchmark unbridled hate, but very meme-able reviews for the 7000X3D series?
deep sapphire
I think it’ll be a good chip
severe flax
I think they will, too, but it depends on the games
pastel tapir
Oh im so stupid lmao
severe flax
But UserBenchmark will just do what they do
pastel tapir
sly walrus
watch the userbenchmark reviews be nothing but perfect
deep sapphire
Nah you aren’t
sly walrus
💸
deep sapphire
Networking is very hard to learn
deep sapphire
Remember the OSI model and that will help you remember the basics
severe flax
They skew the numbers so badly; an i3 gets more score than an i7 of the same generation
pastel tapir
I still get the layers.mixed up
But wait i thought the OSI model was outdated
I thought they use the TCP/IP
deep sapphire
It is but it’s still wildly referenced
Layers 5 and 6 were moved to layer 7
Everything else is still true
sharp star
I love UserBenchmark's mental gymnastics
odd sand
With better bearings you think that fan would be almost silent
sly elk
i mean
aerocool turbine fans? 😄
i'm not sure that fan design has any basis in science
that case design is bullshit 😄
reminds me of apple's emac
outer sand
I don't get how people do it. is it normal to be this fat at the back of the PC? And I should just push the case through and screw it?
outer sand
The other side is nice though, unlike the previous case
sly elk
don't force it
I mean, the cables should have enough give that if you try to push them in, they do so like
you shouldn't risk warping your side panel
i see at least one anchor point for cable ties
you should be able to rotte the cables so that they don't bunch up in the middle like that
that will probably help 🙂
outer sand
Ohhhh that hole is for the cable, ok
odd sand
I don't get how people do it. is it normal to be this fat at the back of the PC?...
Ideally you zip tie excess around the edge into the PSU compartment and keep all the excess in that area
But yes, in general you aren't intended to "look behind the curtain"
Which reminds me, I forgot to put the cable shroud back on the backside of my case after rebuilding it
sly elk
yea I can show ya what mine looks like back there XD
odd sand
sly elk
it looked good until that commander pro lol
odd sand
Bah it fell off again I guess
The included tape is shit, I need something else
I took my PC to my friends house so I guess it fell off in transport. Something else to fix when I put the shroud back on. Supposed to be a white metal ductwork covering the vertical space to the right of the HDD
sly elk
VHB tape!
hehe
I was jealous of cases that have that channel thingy
mine has nothing 😄
I spent hours to get it this good >>
odd sand
lmao geezus christ
sly elk
I realize "good" is relative here lmao
odd sand
How many RGB controllers do you have
The backside looks like shit anyways. That's probably my one quibble with the 570X is why have a clear glass for the back when its never going to look nice
I would rather frost the panel or get a decal wrap for it IMHO
sly elk
hehe the back glass on mine has a decal wrap
it's neat but hidden lol
idk why I don't have a good pic of that side panel
but that's what it looks like
odd sand
The O11 is kinda cheating from a cable mgmt perspective bc its so wide
sly elk
yea the O11 is a really great design
putting the PSU behind the motherboard also solves the most obnoxious cable management issue with big cases - the friggin motherboard power cables not being long enough
as for the other side
that doesn't show the 3 fans on top or the 3 fans in the front 😄
odd sand
Saved money on the case so you could spend it all on RGB cables and fans huh /s
jaunty light
@hard drift as we agreed you have to buy me a 7950x3d now
sly elk
the weird inwin cases are all $$$
jaunty light
$2500 upgrade though 
odd sand
Really? Geez. I know it's a full tower it looks like, but still seems like a lot. Especially for a case not from one of the big hitters
jaunty light
kya coulda got a cosmos
sly elk
tbh it's one of the more pedestrian for their weird cases
i bought it because the 909 was out of stock lol
and also, I liked the motorized top ^^
sly elk
innovations like this is stupid, why
jaunty light
ull b fine
outer sand
The bottom one is a bit worrying..
sly elk
yea that looks totally fine
sly elk
how does the cover feel?
lol I only brought this up because I did it to my brother's fractal design focus G case
I bought it because it was one of the few cases without glass I could find
was afraid he'd knock it off his desk
... and he did lol
but the cheap flimsy metal bent when it fell down
after that, I'm never buying a fractal unless I check it out in person first
jaunty light
sly elk
I remember someone saying one of their other cases had a cheap plastic front
jaunty light
i bent a haf932 panel permanently from psu cables
havent had that experience with alum cases, mostly cuz mod psus
sly elk
aluminum cases are nice
outer sand
not sure about the durability, but this is the review, I haven't seen any step by step build for the case https://youtu.be/u2WmUla7olg
odd sand
but the cheap flimsy metal bent when it fell down <:haha:240841245239410688>
You bought a $50 budget case with a plastic side panel, what were you expecting?
odd sand
What company would do a drop-test on a computer case
sly elk
but even my low expectations left me disappointed
the screws that hold the side panels on are suuuper thin and break really easily
anyway
odd sand
How old is your brother?
sly elk
before lian li gave up on making all aluminum cases
he's older than i am, but has autism lol
anyway
these were really pretty inside
I mean, they didn't have the cable management amenities we've come to expect
but i liked the shiny polished aluminum interior
outer sand
Bruv, should I risk it 🥲
odd sand
I got the Focus G for my nephew for similar reasons. Figured they were young and in playing around, might end up kicking it or other roughhousing
outer sand
scary
sly elk
I got the Focus G for my nephew for similar reasons. Figured they were young and...
yea I mean, it looks ok and the part that bent, I was able to fix lol
odd sand
So the acrylic panel is a good compromise to see into the case without me worrying he's gonna shatter that shit everywhere
sly elk
but still, back in the day I feel like you could've done better for $50. but that was back in the day lol. metal got more expensive
odd sand
tbf Focus G is from back in the day ... the design is from like 2011
outer sand
This is the distance I need to push in
sly elk
like, by virtue of having 5.25" drive bays it looks old 😄
sly elk
This is the distance I need to push in
you can always keep trying to cinch the cables in. I believe in ya! 🙂
but are the cables really stiff or something?
odd sand
This is the distance I need to push in
You might want the PSU cables not tied into that one giant glut
sly elk
like does it require a lot of force to hold the door on without latching/screwing it closed, vielen?
odd sand
ngl for my previous case I just smashed the shit out of it until it was closed even tho the back panel was a little bowed then
outer sand
Better now? 🥲
Yeah it's working, Ty for the tips
If I forced it earlier, I would have bent it
From the mid tower to the micro atx tower hehe
Happy with the result 😹
real edge
all the cables in the first picture make me laugh for some reason
odd sand
Better now? 🥲
Sara cable to the SSD looks like it's not fully plugged in there
To the sandisk
outer sand
yeah I turned it on and it's not detected, need to shut down and replugging..
sly elk
From the mid tower to the micro atx tower hehe
that looks soooo much better
outer sand
These RGBs is also so much better in white it seems.
Or maybe because the old case can only have 4 fans..
sly elk
yea ^^
potent arrow
Man
I don't think my SSD is good either rofl
Hnnnnnnggg
Fuck I should just build a new PC at this point
sly elk
Maybe a bad cable
That happened to me once
When changing cases I had ro unplug and r3plug a drive a few times and afterwards it stopped working until I changed the cable
potent arrow
Maybe a bad cable
the pcb on the nvme is clearly damaged
I didnt use the correct stand off on this
I used a 3D printed on ROFL
sharp star
this is the absolute cleanest my desk is gonna be and it will never be like this again
umbral moss
this is the absolute cleanest my desk is gonna be and it will never be like this...
the vaunted "fresh build and desk" screenshot
the how it's going in a month:
cerulean talon
That's only a week, lets be real.
The cables take over, then it's a couple projects, and soon you start worrying if the desk is just gonna collapse into a black hole.
dull garnet
hey an analogue pocket
hard drift
<@168185424286711808> as we agreed you have to buy me a 7950x3d now
Not a chance
hard drift
<@168185424286711808> as we agreed you have to buy me a 7950x3d now
Plus for gaming it’s such a waste
hard drift
X3D dead on arrival
nah, the cache boost is pretty good this gen but the difference between 7900x3d and 7950x3d is not worth it
go ahead and pay like 300 extra dollars for 4mb of cache
cerulean talon
Nah, just get yourself a 7663, this is the true way.
deep sapphire
Athlon t bird
cerulean talon
Err, 7763*
AMD's naming scheme is right outta hell.
I hate trying to remember what everything is.
cerulean talon
Only 128 meg of cache? Weak.
And it's AMD, they're getting /really/ good at binning their chiplets.
hard drift
7800X3D seems like a scam
it is still a jump vs 5800x3d but the jump between 7800x3d and 7900x3d is massive
deep sapphire
Plus why is this shit being launched so early after AM5 just came out, kind of a shot in the face to early adopters
hard drift
Plus why is this shit being launched so early after AM5 just came out, kind of a...
i mean it was to be expected though 
cerulean talon
Telling you, just get a 7763.
hard drift
literally everyone who didn't early adopt was waiting for it lol
cerulean talon
256Mb of L3 cache.
hard drift
they're all anti consumer depending on how you look at it
modest moss
Tech sucks
cerulean talon
Tech is great.
hard drift
tech is fun to look at
cerulean talon
Tech innovations suck.
cerulean talon
CPU(s): 128
On-line CPU(s) list: 0-127
Thread(s) per core: 2
Core(s) per socket: 64
Socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s): 4
Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
CPU family: 25
Model: 1
Model name: AMD Eng Sample: 100-000000314-04_30/16_N
Stepping: 0
Frequency boost: enabled
CPU MHz: 1197.498
CPU max MHz: 3000.0000
CPU min MHz: 1200.0000
BogoMIPS: 3200.09
Virtualization: AMD-V
L1d cache: 2 MiB
L1i cache: 2 MiB
L2 cache: 32 MiB
L3 cache: 256 MiB
cerulean talon
Embrace servers, discard consumer gear.
deep sapphire
hard drift
Embrace servers, discard consumer gear.
deep sapphire
Good idea I’m gonna buy Xeon gold
cerulean talon
This is also a valid answer.
hard drift
Good idea I’m gonna buy Xeon gold
why would you ever buy a xeon
cerulean talon
Not gonna lie, having 64 real cores is a blast.
hard drift
they're fucking trash performance wise
hard drift
yeah but it's also like 2x slower lmfao
hard drift
it is if you're using it 
deep sapphire
hard drift
cerulean talon
Tbh, the thing I hate the most about AMD chips is how bad they are at self-clocking down and how much power they burn.
Otherwise, they're a literal delight most of the time.
deep sapphire
It’s smiles per gallon not miles
hard drift
get a v10
hard drift
It’s smiles per gallon not miles
we all know you're dying inside while refueling
cerulean talon
It’s smiles per gallon not miles
This is why I have a EJ25.
Sure, it takes 8 tries to start it, throws codes all the time, and is a literal head-gasket away from exploding, but it makes me grin.
hard drift
cerulean talon
Poor decisions are kinda my thing. :3
hard drift
sounds like ice
cerulean talon
The EJ is a fine platform if you like to tinker with things.
It does not make the most reliable daily driver tho.
hard drift
can't imagine why
deep sapphire
Subaru
cerulean talon
Subauwu*
deep sapphire
😒
cerulean talon
One day I'll stop buying computers, and buy a new engine for her.
deep sapphire
Why not just buy a nice Toyota
cerulean talon
I auctually traded in my tundra for the STi.
deep sapphire
Flat plane engines are a meme
hard drift
I auctually traded in my tundra for the STi.
STI is nice but i prefer the tundra
deep sapphire
They both suck
hard drift
They both suck
cerulean talon
Unfortunately, a full size truck does /not/ fit in vegas.
It was fine in Houston tho.
deep sapphire
Took Toyota 20 years to update a truck
cerulean talon
Tundra is life, I'd get another one.
Or if someone ever comes out with an auctually usable electric truck. 
deep sapphire
I’ll never buy an American made Japanese brand vehicle
Poor labor conditions no unionization hiring dumb rednecks in Alabama
No thanks
hard drift
deep sapphire
I can’t believe they get away with this shit the government needs to fine these companies that exploit this shit
hard drift
only vehicle that would make me choose it over a tundra is a Tahoe
hard drift
I can’t believe they get away with this shit the government needs to fine these ...
companies being fined? never
deep sapphire
“TOYOTA IS MORE AMERICAN MADE THAN CHEVY” literally abuses Mexican workers and contractors for 90 percent of its assembly line
cerulean talon
They get fined, just for 1% of a sensible fine.
deep sapphire
Lets move the chicken tax to include foreign companies trying to skirt the rule by building domestics
Fuck em
They don’t wanna buy American cars then why should you get a break
modest moss
Do Americans make any decent small cars?
deep sapphire
modest moss
I just think of big chonkers
deep sapphire
No, they don’t make any money on them
Paying union workers to make sub 30,000 dollar cars
They don’t sell well either
Everyone buys SUVs now
modest moss
I remember chevy tried to sell a medium sized car here some years back
Weird looking thing
cerulean talon
Death to SUV's, thanks.
deep sapphire
Sadly most of them are rebadged opels lmao
hard drift
Death to SUV's, thanks.
i like SUV's though 😭
deep sapphire
GM has never really made a fantastic FWD car
The Buick 3800 engines matted to a 4L30E are about it
Buick 3800 is arguably one of the top 3 best engines ever made
Good fuel economy, power and insanely reliable
hard drift
wtf chevy
cerulean talon
Everything's bigger in texas, including the price
real edge
hard drift
Gib more vram.
i'd settle for extra bus width
on the whole stack except 90
BECAUSE THE BUS WIDTH IS FUCKING INSANE
cerulean talon
90's all I care about.
cerulean talon
Lower end cards do not provide the performance I require.
hard drift
Lower end cards do not provide the performance I require.
😒 what resolution do you game at
cerulean talon
4k.
hard drift
good
cerulean talon
I run triple 4k's.
cerulean talon
You kidding? I'm out of desktop space all the time.
hard drift
wtf are you doing
cerulean talon
At the moment, rewriting a chunk of kupobot. :P
hard drift
get yourself one of the new super ultrawides that're coming out for extra desktop space
cerulean talon
Left monitor is 4-8 live terminals to various servers, center is gaming or programming, right is browsers and chat clients.
royal forge
I should get another monitor
modest moss
Left monitor is 4-8 live terminals to various servers, center is gaming or progr...
Me: this is excessive
Also me: I want this
cerulean talon
No, I have 128 gig of ram, and I'm gonna use it.
royal forge
I cant fault that logic
cerulean talon
Auctually, I've got 3 boxes with 128 gig.
royal forge
It checks out
hard drift
cerulean talon
I think I'm gonna push one of them to 512 soonish.
The secret is that we also run a full 10 gig internal network in my house.
With all core machines channel bonded for 20 gbit LACP.
royal forge
cerulean talon
We've moved 90% of our live data to servers and NAS' shared by the entire household, so our desktops are practially just headends.
:3
royal forge
What kinda household do you have
hard drift
jesus christ
cerulean talon
One that has over 200Tb of storage.
cerulean talon
Me and a couple friends.
royal forge
Oh
hard drift
family with over 200Tb better not be
cerulean talon
Family's got access to it over dedicated VPN links tho.
royal forge
Im laughing if i can convince my parents to use a NAS
cerulean talon
Also, my family would 100% let me get away with it.
Dad worked out how to use my NAS as a target for backups for his w/o my help.
cerulean talon
That epyc 7763 is gonna take a prominent spot on my computer hanging rack as the core of my new dev setup soon(tm)
I'm really waiting to find out if I can pull off the ultimate meme with that and a couple GPU's, and completley virtualize every electron app and browser I use.
And never deal with that dumbness on my desktop again.
I'm planning on getting a S7150X2
So I can use AMD's vgpu tech in a proper VM env.
I seriously considered ordering a tesla or something that supports nvidia's vgpu but I'm not willing to pay their monthly licensing.
That machine /is/ gonna get a 6900xt dumped into it though for development puroposes.
sharp star
https://twitter.com/zephiK0/status/1610832864328749057 do we have any gamers in the house
sleek canopy
My friend bought the game (the complete edition) from the mog station, now he cannot put the code in because where you were usually supposed to put it in just shows other options like buying game time etc. not putting the game code in
umbral moss
so, sony and honda decided that the best name for their joint auto venture was "afeela"
a toddler playing with a keyboard could have come up with a better name
cerulean talon
Are you afeeling it?
umbral moss
I'm afeeling cheated by corporate sony
cerulean talon
Because suffering.
burnt swallow
I'm not sure when
Or why
Or how
But my calendar all the way through the start of April is filled with those stupid ass fake virus malware pop-ups but as events
Trying to figure out how to nuke them on my phone
I nuked my app data and it didn't nuke them
It's an Android
And I have exactly zero events on my calendar
I never use this app
I only noticed it today because it keeps setting off my notifications
Built-in calendar app
Indeed
burnt swallow
Basically never
modest moss
!faq steamdeck
opal pantherBOT
modest moss
tech nerd thoughts? need any other info in there?
royal forge
My friend bought the game (the complete edition) from the mog station, now he ca...
Need some extra info on this
E.g. did they get the code?
sleek canopy
Need some extra info on this
uuhh forget it, we worked it out
royal forge
Lmao. Aite
modest moss
@sharp star you're the steam deck nerd, check !faq steamdeck and tell me if you think it needs anything else
modest moss
Lmao. Aite
they made a #952326072542847016 thread a bit ago, they're sorted
royal forge
they made a <#952326072542847016> thread a bit ago, they're sorted
Aite thanks
Nah ya dingus im askin them to provide more info
Silly
Oh u fuck
Ur gettin a ton of mileage with that
Ugh. I KNOW this is a normal thing, but.. im gettin the feeling of "oh man i should have shelled out for the 4090" vibes ya know
Jesus christ Ice
sharp star
!faq steamdeck
opal pantherBOT
sharp star
looks good so far
modest moss
I figure keep it simple, they'll get better support there
if anything comes to mind that's worth adding just holler
sharp star
yep
burnt swallow
Getting that shit off my calendar was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever had to figure out
Google did not help
burnt swallow
Oh I know how it got there because I'd already nuked the source of them
I just needed to figure out how to get rid of them
mortal coyote
hey can someone help me connect with steam i dont get it 🥲
languid lava
@deep sapphire i said fuck it and fixed it myself
deep sapphire
<@54695380410966016> i said fuck it and fixed it myself
Fixed what
languid lava
my internet
deep sapphire
Oh what was wrong with it
languid lava
turns out the wires werent fully punched on either end
deep sapphire
Nice
burnt swallow
turns out the wires werent fully punched on either end
cerulean talon
https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/1611108573022687232
I am glad to see they're pushing forwards w/ stacked cache. HBM on-die memory was a gamechanger in the FPGA world, so hopefully we'll see more cool insanity for CPU's.
I really want them to just go all the way, give us 32 gigs of HBM as ram on a CPU and not need real RAM sticks any more.
I also don't want to think about how egregiously expensive that would be.
sly walrus
but don’t you want 64 gigs of ram
cerulean talon
I /want/ a couple hundred, but I could survive on 32 if it's fast enough.
More so than that though, is if they went that route, there'd be no more ram configuration screwballness like we had w/ high end 5k ryzens and getting good perf out of DDR4.
potent arrow
Spoken like an insane embeded eng
potent arrow
SRAM is dead as we know it
cerulean talon
Sort-of-ish?
cerulean talon
We've pushed it smaller w/ every process node, and they're still making it smaller.
The nm size of a process node isn't for a sram cell.
cerulean talon
Which is how intel got their 14nm+++++++++ absurdity.
Also, that's what the 3d stacking bits are for w/ interposers and HBM.
You can't shrink it as fast, but you can go up, instead of out.
potent arrow
ARM
cerulean talon
Makes sense. I need to get a real ARM rig in the house to play w/
potent arrow
I have a bunch of platforms for embeded but no real compute units
cerulean talon
I want one of those big ampere ones, but I know SM just started a product line w/ arm chips.
cerulean talon
I don't mind it much, but I don't do much that gets good ARM optimizations.
Most of my stuff is either platform agnostic, or ARM doesn't have physical extensions for yet.
Unfortunately, x86's love for hw extensions has given it wayyyyy too much life.
potent arrow
Pretty much everything I do these days is on ARM soc
potent arrow
Unfortunately, x86's love for hw extensions has given it wayyyyy too much life.
Yeaaaah._.
cerulean talon
Any in particular you like that auctually have some power under the hood?
potent arrow
Mmmm not really, my school is partnered with STM
So we get a fuck ton of their units
cerulean talon
STM's decent.
The one thing I do love ARM for is embedded work, the fact we've gotten micros to the point they can be ARM SOC's and not hand-rolled assembly is lovely.
Though I'll never forget that first PIC32...
cerulean talon
Makes sense, I don't know if I've got the patience for that any more.
potent arrow
Oh right we are learning about those NXP LX2160A rn but I can't comment much on it rn
cerulean talon
For ARM, yeah.
potent arrow
Our class is designing the dev board for it
cerulean talon
Lots of cache too, which is slick.
potent arrow
It's gonna take the last two years of my education 😭
cerulean talon
Sheeesh.
potent arrow
Shoulda seen my knock off f303
cerulean talon
I always figured dev board were spun in like 3-6 mo.
potent arrow
That was beeeeeutiful
We need to learn like everything about it
Including like proper shielding and thermals and it's proper gpio
Etc
It's gonna be fun atleast
cerulean talon
Makes sense, I haven't done a serious spin like that in a long time.
Jeeez, their reference board is a 1U rack?
Have fun w/ that design.
potent arrow
Atleast I'm not in charge of the power stuff
I fucking suck at power design and EM
cerulean talon
Depends on how much power you need. :D
I did some serious review of some 300w 12 phase designs.
That was fun.
potent arrow
cerulean talon
FPGA's are wild in their power requirements.
We did it originally for studying how to trick the regulators over i2c on GPU's for over/under volting outside of the ASIC's "safe" ranges.
potent arrow
I remember designing this CAN bus based elevator with off the shelf f303s
cerulean talon
Has an E-stop, someone designed that properly.
cerulean talon
Bahahaha.
cerulean talon
That's fantastic.
potent arrow
Has an E-stop, someone designed that properly.
Bold of you to assume that we put that on the CAN line
cerulean talon
Oh no, I fully expect that to be a bad GPIO pin poll somewhere.
The fact it's there is what makes it proper, not that it's done properly
potent arrow
Oh Lord my interrupt routine
potent arrow
Fuck I forgot lmfaoooo
I wrote that shit in assembly
Bypassed the watchdog timer by accident
One of the boards ran away
._.
Rest is history
cerulean talon
:(
I never got much into CAN other than just reading the data off of it for other projects.
The stuff I touch is mostly i2c.
potent arrow
I2c suuuucks for large scale
cerulean talon
Yeah, but we do it on the scale of single pcie cards, etc.
potent arrow
Only 1m? I think
cerulean talon
Most of what I deal with is production hardware that has i2c busses "exposed" through hidden interfaces that you can do things you're not supposed to.
potent arrow
I think can negotiation is easier to deal with
cerulean talon
Unfortunately, chip designers love themselves some i2c.
potent arrow
Hnnng
cerulean talon
Not micro designers mind you, other chips.
potent arrow
Ik ik, it fuck s u c k s
cerulean talon
Hahaha.
It's all about the same to me, but I don't use them enough in actual design to notice the differences.
potent arrow
Crossing them is also fucking hell