technology-discussion

[bitter girder]

direct me to the hoes

[outer sand]

what performance do you guys track through MSI afterburner?

are there any important one? fps, CPU and GPU temperature, what else?

[modest moss]

I don't

I use hwinfo for general stats and the xbox overlay to check fps

[outer sand]

I have this FPS tracker on my screen, but I forgot how I turned it on

It seems only shows when XIV is running

is there any performance overlay that looks like this? small, compact, and doesn't attract much attention like msi afterburner

[outer sand]

is it just bad or like it's distracting in general?

[dull garnet]

Gshade has something like that

Typically though I don't care

[outer sand]

ic, it's from gshade you are right

[modest moss]

I just don't need constant real time stats

I check them when I start a new game or if things feel wrong

[potent arrow]

I dont check them because I know my computer is running in the high 90s at any given moment

hmm?

[surreal thorn]

oops wrong chat

sorry haha

[potent arrow]

https://youtu.be/N--a-0VZVHw

[dull garnet]

Time to upgrade ice

[bitter girder]

its a fan

[dull garnet]

Is fine really good enough

[hard drift]

for ice, no

[bitter girder]

looking at that just makes me want to

[dull garnet]

Imagine sticking with a 3090

So slow!

[bitter girder]

true

ahahahah your socks say dick

was gonna recreate that photo but im in the living room with my family probably shouldnt have them watch me put my feet on my macbook and take a photo of it

no

[potent arrow]

How often are you redoing your loop....

I can't even be arsed to fix mine lol

Wha

[deep sapphire]

Programming socks for the season

Looks like I’m fruit of the doomed

[bitter girder]

swamp arse

help guys

[sly elk]

lol

oh yea what'd it end up looking like?

i saw ya posting keyboards but i wasn't sure if that was the one you built your wifey

oh wow

that's hella cute

[bitter girder]

This is getting out of hand

[dull garnet]

you and your fancy bluetooth

[hard drift]

@tame fulcrum just get silencer rings for the keys

[sly elk]

dysoon hoover

[hard drift]

They go on the keycaps and reduce some of the noise

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/vacuum-chase-run-scared-gif-3985014

do they give kirby buyers the little disc thing so they can show off to their friends how effective it is?

kirbys are funny looking

reason #23985235 not to buy an hp printer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33936862

bryanlarsen

Tell HN: HP printers force you into agreement

The HP Smart App forces you to agree to use only their ink before you can use their app. That shouldn't be a big deal since modern HP printers work fine out of the box without a driver.However, after you've printed a bunch of pages, they stop working and display the error message "Printer setup incomplete. Your HP+ printer must be set up using...

Hacker News · Dec 10, 2022, 9:13 PM

However, after you've printed a bunch of pages, they stop working and display the error message "Printer setup incomplete. Your HP+ printer must be set up using the HP Smart app. Visit 123.hp.com to download the app and complete the guided setup. Any pages you have printed were intended for setup and have been exhausted."

I always hear HP lasers are actually good

but my experience with their deskjets was so bad I'd never buy their laser printers either

and their $$$ plotters, for that matter

[paper tusk]

only problem i have with my hp colour laser is I need to clean the drum after it's been sitting around for years since lack of anything to print

[jaunty light]

How do the middle eastern alcoholics manage

[paper tusk]

I use this brand toner https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FLTKG2P

sucks if have to replace them all though

fair enough

[dull garnet]

same as ever

random chinese company

[paper tusk]

yeah half the same shit, different label

[sly elk]

yea I have an old canon inkjet and a brother b&w laserjet

[dull garnet]

older printers are a blessing in disguise

that's called a laser printer

w

it doesn't use ink

it uses toner

[sly elk]

lol

ice that toner cost more than my printer

[dull garnet]

i have a thermal printer

[sly elk]

you knopw what would be funny to try

[sly elk]

get 4 cheap b&w laser printers

put different color toner in each one

that looks like mine

except mine has the little screen and buttons

[dull garnet]

i have this dinky thing, same toner since 2014

[sly elk]

my brother likes printintg calendars so my toner doesn't last that long hahaha

[dull garnet]

never understood that

[sly elk]

submit screenshots of your most salient code

salient code

[paper tusk]

sounds like the kind of boomer energy that takes the term screenshot literally (as in photographing the monitor)

[sly elk]

HAHAHAHA

YAS

idk i don't work on planes

afaik the plane computers are ooooooold

like the mcas computer on the 737 is 286-ish

(I say this from reading news articles and stuff on hackernews, no insider knowledge lmao)

idk. maybe.

maybe not.

we used to whine about teams a lot

but hey, it's a hell of a lot better than skype for business

LOL everyone

i idle a lot.

LOL

i used to use the toilet more in the office i think

because i drank a lot of water

so i'd go to pee like hourly

[paper tusk]

yeah because it's been forever since the first runs were certified so easier to avoid re-certifying the flight computer (otherwise would be big learning curve even if it's just abus style paper free takeoff checklist)

[sly elk]

more like the airlines didn't wanna pay for training

x_X

[paper tusk]

that too

[sly elk]

lol

i mean

the spacex dragon crew uses an electron webapp

but the actual control system iirc runs powerpc chips

[paper tusk]

"this is your captain speaking we need to restart the plane because the instrument panel crashed. do not be alarmed"

[sly elk]

not sure which

pretty sure not rad750s

space stuff usually is like

[paper tusk]

yeah radiation hardened ppc

[sly elk]

":we did this.. and there's an fpga for the really important bits"

yea but you're not running windows on it

but still

a rad750 is like a slow gamecube cpu without the gpu

it'll run nav algorithms just fine but if you want to do things like detect items from images

ehhhhhhh

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

wow wtf

i bought mine for like 36 bucks

i guess they jacked the price up for people buying these as gifts

though i have a hard time imagining someone getting one for christmas lol

lol

as far as I'm concerned the DE razor works great

[bitter girder]

TV online

[sly elk]

and the blades cost like $7 for 100

but you can use a DE pretty much the same way you'd use a gilette/shick cartridge razor and get pretty much the same results

it's just if you take more time and use a fresh blade, you can get better results

(or worse results)

[late basalt]

Keep it groomed more often and it won’t be like trying to trim steel wool off your face

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lSwwqDpoVc

[dull garnet]

remove all your body hair, buy programming socks, install arch

[hard drift]

[royal forge]

My friend told me puttin a HDD into a system, despite it not being a bootdrive will slow the PC

Thats patently false right

My friend has that.. gaslight aura ya know

Aite. Thanks

[sly elk]

who said we didn't o_O

[deep sapphire]

you know what it will slow down

your brain hanging out with him

https://tenor.com/view/guile-street_fighter_6-street-fighter-capcom-gif-25917670

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/zi3s68/may_have_went_a_little_crazy_with_my_first/

first

the only thing that happens when you stick an HDD in a system that uses an SSD as a boot drive

is you get to hear the HDD randomly spin up for no reason

[modest moss]

It can fractionally slow boot while it's recognising drives and shit, also when indexing but in real terms you'll notice nothing

[sly elk]

mm, also when you need to access those files and have to wait a sec for the drive to spin up
(You can also tell the OS to keep the drive on at all times, but ymmv)

[dull garnet]

ye, default spin down time is 20 mins. i don't mind waiting for it to spin up again, probably better long term

[modest moss]

Yeah let that shit rest

[jaunty light]

Finna find out how shit 5g on tmo is

[deep sapphire]

do you ever learn

[jaunty light]

No

[deep sapphire]

also its horrible

I turned it off completely

it rarely works and when it does its slower than LTE lol

[jaunty light]

[bitter girder]

NOOOOOO NOOOOO OMFG NOOOOO

DONT DO IT

DO NOT FUCKING DO IT

hardware amazing 10/10 but the software will make you rip out your eye balls and feed it to a bunch of starving gremlins

[deep sapphire]

he doesnt listen

its okay

[bitter girder]

i got an apple watch

they are neat

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

Now when I get back to lax should i go to the bestbuy that claims to have a 4090

[jaunty light]

I alreasy have a samsung product

[dull garnet]

rofl

[bitter girder]

yeah imagine that but worse

but fucking worse

[dull garnet]

bad decision guru

[jaunty light]

I can assure u samsung bad

[bitter girder]

i can assure you xperias are worse

[jaunty light]

If my choice is sony, samsung, or apple, we goin sony

[bitter girder]

sony always has a fucking quirk

and that quirk is always fucking up their fucking software

[jaunty light]

Buy me an iphone 69 max

[bitter girder]

sure handsome

[jaunty light]

Max xs 69 m2

[bitter girder]

my xperia 1 III was so bad i went into a second hand store and traded it for an iphone 11 pro max

a phone 3 years older than it and it lasts longer lol

[dull garnet]

imagine buying a premium android phone, android is literally just for poor people lmao

[jaunty light]

Yea but u got a 3 which was the forgotten middle child

They released the 4 like 3 momths after

[bitter girder]

it really wasnt

no

they did not dull fuck

in the us

[dull garnet]

they're all forgotten children, of Sony

[bitter girder]

yes

[dull garnet]

[bitter girder]

we had it for a year everywhere else

[jaunty light]

I also use sony cameras

[dull garnet]

cringe

[jaunty light]

So im used to it

[bitter girder]

im so sorry to hear

[jaunty light]

Hey man if u need apple to hold ur dick to use a device its good

[hard drift]

NOOOO

[bitter girder]

you cannot even take the piss

you just madfe

[hard drift]

don't use my emote after that 😭

[bitter girder]

the worst fucking choice

im so angry now im going back to azumanga

[jaunty light]

😘

[dull garnet]

finish azu

manga

[hard drift]

😭

[bitter girder]

i am at peace now

[paper tusk]

like the time i bought a samsung dslr and got completely fucked in terms of ability to get new lens types

[bitter girder]

stop making him feel like hes made a good decision

[jaunty light]

Show me where the sony executive hurt u lewis

[bitter girder]

the playstation 5

my tv

my soundbar

my earphones

my headphones

my phone

[jaunty light]

Skill issue

Have you tried: not being british?

[hard drift]

this is why i use a Panasonic

[dull garnet]

who tf buying a samsung dslr lmao

[bitter girder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/997036669976989777/1030187523516936212/IMG_20220710_174446.gif

[jaunty light]

Imma also buy a galaxy s22 ultra just for lewis enjoyment

[bitter girder]

better than xperia

[jaunty light]

Xperia dont got no bixby button

[bitter girder]

xperia dont have a software team

[jaunty light]

Thats fine

[bitter girder]

its just the bootloader

[jaunty light]

Water u using it for

I got my phone to text and auxiliary camera

[bitter girder]

1300 dollars

L

i remember the first xperia 5 where they bragged about HDR on amazon prime

it stuttered every 5 seconds

[jaunty light]

Who uses phone to watch amazon prime yuck

[dull garnet]

big man lewis

that's who

[jaunty light]

It sounds like lewis has a british internet issue

[bitter girder]

i give up this dude wont listen

[jaunty light]

[hard drift]

what is even going on in this channel 😐

[jaunty light]

Send me a free iphone 69

[hard drift]

you fixing something??

[jaunty light]

Bidori will finally be 18

[hard drift]

nah they'll just skip numbers

[hard drift]

i don't want to be 18 again

[jaunty light]

Samsung galaxy s10.. then s20!

[deep sapphire]

tasty

[jaunty light]

The apple ifruit 2500 (chevy red)

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-12921606

[deep sapphire]

https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0518-326296/1964-chevrolet-impala-ss/

[jaunty light]

Nice url name

[deep sapphire]

HA

just noticed that

[dull garnet]

ah my favourite game company

cumcom

[modest moss]

You got something to say weeb?

[jaunty light]

YEW GOT SUMFINN TA SEHH UEEEB?

[modest moss]

You spend more money than Icehunter

Let that sink in

[jaunty light]

He unfortunately gets paid in cad

[modest moss]

Can I get some of that fat dod blood moneyz

Just a steamdeck

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.dealeraccelerate.com/rkm/1/2530/159336/1920x1440/w/1958-chevrolet-impala

[jaunty light]

Nintendi switch best i can do

[deep sapphire]

lets bring back 50s car styling

[modest moss]

That's pretty cool

AM gonna buy one and put a hentai wrap on it

[deep sapphire]

I believe it

I bet he asked 30 girls out while in japan

[modest moss]

I bet he got rejected 31 times

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/antonio-banderas-oh-sweet-impressed-not-bad-gif-9592821

[modest moss]

Wouldn't even sleep with himself

[jaunty light]

Only 30?

Per hour

[jaunty light]

Every harajuku honey i saw

[deep sapphire]

I dont even know what that means

[modest moss]

Hank is only pixiv level weeb, not actually go there and harass locals level

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/orIjDOY.png

[modest moss]

I may have just talked my way out of that switch

[deep sapphire]

rather get a steam deck at this point

switch is ancient

[modest moss]

Ice is getting me steamdeck, AM the switch

Xmas gonna be pog

Hank already shipped my iPhone ages ago it must arrive soon

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

y-yeah you know how DHL is

[jaunty light]

Pls

[deep sapphire]

heh

[modest moss]

Hank sent iPhone 20 last year

Tracking says real soon now

[deep sapphire]

[modest moss]

Did they ship it as low value gift

I've bought things and then they've been declared as free samples

Would still cost to send the weight

[lime wasp]

I know I don't need it, but I kinda still wanna try and get a 7900 Ref. Card on Tuesday.

Just take my Tablet to work with me and take a quick 10 min. break at 8:55 AM and try to get one off the AMD store.

[deep sapphire]

I did that on my car registration

I just said it was a gift so I only had to pay 50 bucks

[modest moss]

Tbf your truck ain't worth much

Did the thing arrive

[deep sapphire]

nah I said fuck it, 70 grand for a truck thats absurd

the used market is tanking pretty hard rn

I'll j ust wiat it ou t

[hard drift]

yeah, new truck prices are insane

[modest moss]

No you dildo

The steering wheel cap

[deep sapphire]

oh

no

I dunno where tf it is

[modest moss]

Wtf

Another robbed package

[deep sapphire]

fucker probably never even shipped it

[modest moss]

Charge back that shit

[deep sapphire]

yeah bless paypal

[modest moss]

You really should just jazz up that truck

[deep sapphire]

gonna do my front suspension tomorrow

was gonna do it today but it started raining

[hard drift]

rip

[deep sapphire]

nah jk

that looks ridiculous

[modest moss]

I thought you country boys were tough

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/sfv-guile-street-fighter-street-fighter-gif-5349918

as we said in the army

[modest moss]

Afraid of a little rain

[deep sapphire]

if it gonna rain we aint gonna train

[modest moss]

You wouldn't make it in England

[deep sapphire]

yeah, big ocean on the way

[modest moss]

[jaunty light]

U

[hard drift]

what is that

[deep sapphire]

[deep sapphire]

what do you think it is

another BIDORI moment ladies and gentlemen

[jaunty light]

And they have a creepy statue

[hard drift]

it doesn't look like what i think it is 😭

[deep sapphire]

you need glasses

[hard drift]

this gap throws me off

[deep sapphire]

nah

🤓

☝️

[hard drift]

i have glasses you fucker 😭

[deep sapphire]

need better ones

walmart frames arent gonna cut it

[hard drift]

i know 😔 i'm going to have them test my eyes for glaucoma

[deep sapphire]

is that in japan lmao

can just buy smokes off the shelf

[jaunty light]

Saudi

[hard drift]

THAT'S WHAT THAT IS???? I THOUGHT IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL CARTON IS WHY I WAS SO FUCKING CONFUSED

[deep sapphire]

nah you didnt

🤓

[jaunty light]

You can still do that and get them out of vending machines in japan tho

[hard drift]

shush

[deep sapphire]

everyone in japan smokes

[jaunty light]

Eh

[royal forge]

Glue sniffin

[jaunty light]

Everyone in the ME do.. there was a saudi dude here a few hours ago begging staff for the smoking room location

[hard drift]

i need that emote

[deep sapphire]

in the ME?

[deep sapphire]

what emote

[hard drift]

middle east

i imagine

[deep sapphire]

middle east is an emote?

oh

[hard drift]

the kyaru nerd smh

[deep sapphire]

what emote

[hard drift]

YOU FUCKING REMOVED IT

YOU'RE A BITCH

[deep sapphire]

???

[hard drift]

i hate you smh

what did you delete

[royal forge]

DICK DELETING DECEMBER

[hard drift]

IT'S DESTROY DICK DECEMBER

[royal forge]

NOW ITS DELETING

DELETING DICK EMOTES

[hard drift]

[royal forge]

SMH

[modest moss]

Aoi hank needed you today

Poor guy had an eye exam and you weren't around

[deep sapphire]

Yeah I got an eye exam and you weren’t anywhere to be found

[hard drift]

damn nerd

[modest moss]

He's gonna go blind

Too much pixiv premium

[hard drift]

true

@deep sapphire

[deep sapphire]

wow shes cute

[hard drift]

it was easy to find

[sly elk]

hmm this sucks

my bro's genesis's cartridge slot has gotten finicky

looks like the games won't start unless you apply pressure on the cartridge towards the back of the unit

[jaunty light]

[Magnetic Adsorption Case] Multi times magnetic suction 1 second machine,creative multi-point magnetic suction contact,not easy to fall off,adsorption is not loose.

[Sensitive touch] Non machine experience,smooth hand feel,360 Degree sensitive touch without dead Angle,smooth operation.

[sly elk]

hmm maybe I need to clean it more xD

[royal forge]

I cant help horny. I am the horny provider

[sly elk]

lol

[royal forge]

So did @deep sapphire fail his eye exams or did the sexy female doc fall in love after peering into his eyes

[normal wadi]

I am having a hard time to get the launcher started and is there a way to fix this problem

[hard drift]

you playing through steam?

[normal wadi]

correct

I already agree to the terms and this happen

So I am not sure how will I able to fix this problem

[hard drift]

what game is it for?

[deep sapphire]

no that was you

[normal wadi]

@hard drift destiny 2

I tried to find a solution in youtube but it doesnt help me alot

[hard drift]

go into your steamapps folder for destiny 2

click battleeye

and then run install_battleeye.bat

see if that fixes it

if need be, try running the uninstall for battle eye first

[normal wadi]

I dont have the battle eye on my folder for some reason

oh nvm find it

I have to redownload d2 since I uninstall so I might have to wait till its finished

[hard drift]

[normal wadi]

Ill let you know when its working

[sly elk]

ahhh there we go

i adjusted the tension in the pins a little but one of the pins is a little tweaked, but in that tweaked position the tension is better, so even with the sonic 3 & knuckles stack it doesn't have issues if I tap the console or the cartridge. nice.

also I think that's the first time I've ever actually played s3&k on a real genesis

the part that makes me sad is I went to do a special stage and got 'perfect' but didn't get the emerald because i messed up near the end. oops.

[royal forge]

Excuse me sir, i am kawaii sexy catgirl

[deep sapphire]

lmao Jay probably did it

[hard drift]

it's supposedly a charity event that was hosted by evga the title is misleading

[outer sand]

Oh I never seen EVGA GPU before

Only PSU lol

[burnt swallow]

@deep sapphire why do I keep getting random 'Copied to clipboard' popups on my phone and it looks like a freaking scam

[deep sapphire]

do you have an iPhone or android

[burnt swallow]

Android

Samsung Galaxy S21

[deep sapphire]

yep, you could very well have malware on your phone

sounds like a keylogger

[burnt swallow]

I thought it was a scam but I checked and it's some kind of soundcloud link

Also links to a facebook and two other sites

[deep sapphire]

you should probably factory reset your phone if you get them constantly

but I would google it first

[jaunty light]

Samsung issue

[burnt swallow]

It's like sporadic on Discord

I usually see it when I swipe right to scroll through my server list

Oh never mind

I'm fucking dumb

[modest moss]

Have you got a gesture set or something

[burnt swallow]

I think that's a possibility because it's copying a link in Balance discord

[sly elk]

derp

wonder if a squier classic vibe for 200-250 is worth getting over one of these squier affinity 'starter kit' things. Seems like it.

[outer sand]

pros and cons of limiting your FPS to 60?

will PC parts last a long time if we don't use it as it's intended? like u just don't overlock and run things that doesn't push the parts to the limit

[real edge]

why would you want to limit your fps to 60

do not limit your fps

[outer sand]

to reduce the eletricity usage, and I thought anything above 60 fps just doesn't make much difference?

[real edge]

idk who told you that but they are wrong

getting above 60fps improves how smooth the game feels as well as motion clarity

once you get to and feel how being above 100fps feels you will never be able to go back to 60

[outer sand]

this is my monitor though 🥲

can it shows 100 fps?

I think it's limited to 75

[sly elk]

limiting your fps to a little bit above your monitor isn'

isn't a terrible idea

i think*

[real edge]

getting fps over your monitors

[sly elk]

like doing 100hz on a 60hz monitor or something

[real edge]

still improves how the game feels

[sly elk]

it'll keep you from having a stupid game menu that tries to go to the moon and render at 5023945235fps and make your gpu explode

[real edge]

just less so than having an appropriate hz display

[sly elk]

(or at least sound like it will :D)

[outer sand]

I haven't even got the GPU yet, but this smooth 60 fps gaming on standard laptop settings is already good enough for me 🥹

I guess I just didn't realise my old dual core CPU is limiting my GPU

back then when I still used the old processor, can't even get 60 fps on lowest setting

[real edge]

some games are cpu bound

but with a 1050 ull be gpu bound in any game

with your new cpu

[outer sand]

yeah, hopefully it will arrive on Monday and I can just install it

I don't need to do anything software-wise yeah? just uninstall geforce experience and install the new radeon driver

I actually never upgraded GPU before

[real edge]

use DDU

in safe mode

nuke the drivers and geforce experience using ddu in safe mode

then take out your old gpu and replace it with the new one

then install the latest drivers

recommended drivers

[outer sand]

safe mode bios or os?

[real edge]

uhh

just go to safe mode from your boot options

[outer sand]

oh right, it's just a windows program

ok

?

how does that happen

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-huh-gif-18307887

you wouldnt even be able to pull full system load from a single wall outlet lol

most NA homes are only rated to 16-1800 watts max

[outer sand]

ah right, what device consumes a lot of electricity? heater, air conditioning what else?

I don't think oven and fridge even take that much

uh really rip, I use oven so often recently, rip my bills

[normal wadi]

@hard drift almost done installing

[normal wadi]

I fixed it

[sly elk]

oh no 😮

uh huh

[glossy ravine]

I have no idea what all these numbers are or what they mean

[dull garnet]

Don't worry about it. You should enable xmp though

[glossy ravine]

Xmp?

[dull garnet]

A setting in the uefi to set your memory to it's rated speed

[bitter girder]

^

[glossy ravine]

So go into the bios?

[bitter girder]

should be named like dohp on amd right?

[dull garnet]

No

[bitter girder]

well it used to

docp

[dull garnet]

docp deez nuts

[bitter girder]

ah amd boards started just using xmp

[dull garnet]

"how cold is your room"
"yes"

[bitter girder]

pretty warm

[modest moss]

yeah it's baking

[bitter girder]

in my house yeah

[modest moss]

because you rinse your dad's bills

poor guy

[bitter girder]

i pay half my wages here but okay

[modest moss]

you should pay 100%

actually you can keep 3.50/week for a tear and share

[bitter girder]

socialist ideology be like

[dull garnet]

Cold isn't so bad

[glossy ravine]

My temps hover around 35-45 Celsius

I don't want to Overclock.

1. I don't have a use for it.

2. It shortens the lifespan of a chip.

3. I'm not even sure how it works/turn it on

[lost python]

"shortens lifetime of a chip" is like the biggest myth in that regard out there

i mean, sure you can cause damage by overdoing it, but i have never heard of a single cpu that died with a decent OC applied to it

even my own ones ran for sometimes 8+ years totally fine

[glossy ravine]

I see.

[modest moss]

yeah I had a fairly decent OC on my i5 2500k for many years and only recently took it off

still chugging along fine for plex etc

[glossy ravine]

My CPU's temp jumped to 60C for a moment before dropping

[real edge]

[modest moss]

60c is nothing, unless that's idle

[glossy ravine]

I'm only running XIV and chrome.

[modest moss]

what

you're in a game, 60c is nothing

[real edge]

^

[glossy ravine]

That's normal?

[real edge]

yes

[modest moss]

completely

[real edge]

ryzen cpus can run up to 90c without any problems

[modest moss]

60c is 'oh we're doing a little work'

equivalent of idk, a healthy human jogging

[lime wasp]

Hm. Mine sits at 53-60 when idle, but that is because it's a bit of a stronger CPU in a smaller case.

My GPU sits at like 65* when idle, but as above, smaller case and stronger GPU.

[lost python]

also remember that

when a sudden load hits the cpu, it will heat up quite quickly before your fans kick in and ramp up to counter that

[lime wasp]

Though I'm gonna change to a different case with better airflow and more fans as soon as all the pieces get here.

[glossy ravine]

Gotcha. I've never really knew/kept track of CPU temp until now

[modest moss]

but

you just spent a fortune to go sff

what

[lime wasp]

It's still SFF.

Just a different layout case that allows for more fans. Not buying any expensive parts.

[modest moss]

[lime wasp]

Same MB. Same CPU. Same GPU. Same cooler.

Just a different case (with a mod to make it work better) and some additional fans. And I can use my ATX PSU too so it will have better cable management.

[dull garnet]

Doesn't sound very sff

[lime wasp]

I guess it depends if you count an M-ATX case as still SFF or not.

I consider any non-ATX case that isn't mid-tower sized SFF, but some people think if it can't barely contain an ITX board it isn't SFF.

[modest moss]

depends how many L the case is I believe

Sarah and Cyan would know, they're the SFF team in here

[lime wasp]

398mm x 276mm x 351mm

Which is quite bit smaller than most mid tower cases I believe other than some oddballs (like the 220T).

[dull garnet]

Matx isn't sff

[modest moss]

that's like 38.5l

I read sff ends at 20l

so yeah, it's just a small case

[modest moss]

lol that'd be why no tax/duty

[potent arrow]

Yeah I consider things sub 20 litres sff lol

[potent arrow]

As long as your cpu isn't like in the high 90s when you game there isn't much of a point in fixing things

[modest moss]

he's basically spent a fortune to go to a toasty sff and dialled it back to matx

[potent arrow]

Im not sure if he's using aio or air cooling

But this sounds like an air cooling sff problem

Because the difference exists in SFF, just because you can relocate where the head source is to be closer to the side panels with an aio while an air-cooler you cannot

[bitter girder]

had to dance for my life earlier trying not to slip on black ice

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-rap-hip-hop-west-coast-crips-gif-24898891

[sly elk]

60c under load is actually pretty good

[sly elk]

the trashcan mac pros have a reputation for cooking GPU components lol. I think it's not the GPU/CPU chips themselves that fail from the high temperatures, it's stuff like the VRMs and power conditioning stuff

but I need to back that up with a source

ah seems it's more like the PCH overheats and some people had issues with the heatsink clips popping off

hahahahhaa shit that's exactly what happened to my powermac g5 and why I got it for $50 off craigslist >> the memory controller on the back of the motherboard was overheating because a clip for the heatsink broke off and it wasn't making contact

gg.

https://jalopnik.com/u-s-sen-ed-markey-really-really-wants-automakers-to-1849876535

this is lame. I demand AM stereo!

http://www.amstereo.org/

(that website is sexy peak 90s design)

[dull garnet]

that's how websites should look

[sly elk]

i love how prs guitars have birds going down the fingerboard

[bitter girder]

my favourite markings on the fretboard markings is schecters hellraiser

post it now hang on

https://www.schecterguitars.com/images/Hellraiser C-1 FR.Gloss White (WHT).01.png

such a beautiful guitar

[sly elk]

those are very nice

[sly elk]

hey the C-1 costs like that PRS ....

[bitter girder]

i want her so bad

She’ll do for now

[sly elk]

that looks nice though

[bitter girder]

yeah shes fine

bit of a buzzy string though but its fine

really need to start practising guitar strings are probably completely out of tune now

[sly elk]

how has that worked out for ya?

one thing I'm afraid of is starting with something that can't keep tune and has really bad frets

[bitter girder]

honestly i aint touched my guitar in ages still a complete noob at it

[sly elk]

no motivation?

[bitter girder]

im just a really bad procrastinator

yeah. that

[sly elk]

aw

[bitter girder]

sucks because i fucking love guitars

oh well one day

[jaunty light]

On display = cancelled online order apparently

Nah i did

Asked them what on display meant, they said IDK then looked in the back, was a cancelled online order

[sharp star]

RDNA3 embargo lifts today

[sly elk]

i thought it was an epiphone special but then the headstock looks like a strat , I've seen those but I can't remember where.

[bitter girder]

its an ibanez silly pants

[sly elk]

the pointy headstock is more useful for poking people with

[bitter girder]

real

[modest moss]

don't worry mate, we know the truth

[bitter girder]

@modest moss

do you have any dryer sheets in your house?

the scented things

[modest moss]

no, we don't have a dryer

[bitter girder]

fuck

[modest moss]

waste of electricity

[bitter girder]

i was gonna say place one on top of your graphics card and run it hot and see if it makes your room smell nice

[modest moss]

that's a horrible idea

also just use air freshener instead

or buy some pot pourri

[bitter girder]

im gonna get some cinnamon sticks to put in my room

those smell so. good

[sly elk]

here

did i make ya proud? 😄

[hard drift]

is higher or lower better?

[sly elk]

well, lower is better in terms of touching grass I'm sure

[hard drift]

no i mean which means you did more karma?

i guess i did great

[sly elk]

@hard drift making me proud ❤️

[hard drift]

that's not my other account though that is my main though lol

[sly elk]

i wonder if I'm real or just a chatgpt model

[hard drift]

it's everywhere now, i hate it smh

[sly elk]

all it is, is a program with really really really effective google-fu

[hard drift]

i know what it is just tired of hearing about it already 😭

[sly elk]

it reminds me of when apple bought siri and people were like

OMG VOICE RECOGNITION IS AMAZING

[sly elk]

i have a bunch of fast food apps

my phone probably spies on a lot

[jaunty light]

Yea baby new hardware fun

F

Ur temps are good now id prolly keep same

[hard drift]

pointless 😭

[jaunty light]

True

Mine are exhaust

Side intake

[sly elk]

baller

[sly elk]

can't wait to see the results!

hmm so I thought I'd need an interface like a scarlett 2i2 for a guitar, then I find out fender makes a bluetooth dongle

-chuckle-

i wonder if you can pair it with bluetooth headphones for the ultimate lagfest

[outer sand]

front and back are intake? is that normal?

how does that even work ._.

[sly elk]

damn

maybe i should give up on the les paul for now

https://www.adorama.com/sq37803502.html?EmailPrice=T

that's really nice for 159 lol

lol

well if I go this route

i'm getting a nux mini plug or a mustang micro

so I could plug it into whatever garbage i want, including a 20000w sound bar so I can piss the neighbors off

dare i say it

that sounds like a great thing to do when I get my next house figured out

the day before the moiving company comes

just setup in the garage

borrow the fattest amp I can scrunge up from a coworker

and just play the most annoying shit

fuck, might even do it in the driveway

but yea I just can't wrap my head around any of these damn low end guitars

the firefly les pauls for $199 look beautiful but some of the reviews are so bad lol

like sharp fret edges? pft. nah. shit like using a washer to hold in the bridge because they stripped the hole lol

[odd sand]

Very belated response, but I have not once heard of AM Stereo before. Would any stations even bother doing it?

[sly elk]

I have no idea xD
I assume not many. In fact I think that site has a list.
heeeey the link is broken 😦

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:AM_Stereo_radio_stations_in_the_United_States

it links to this

nothing in california, sadly

on the plus side, at night with a good antenna you could probably pick most of those up from anywhere in the US since AM travels stupidly far at night

I've never tried

[odd sand]

You're thinking of shortwave. AM goes about 150mi max with 50k watt antenna (max allowed in the US)

There is a famous story of an AM station in Cincinnati I wanna say, during WW2. They were pushing 500k watts to broadcast to the troops in Europe, but they put limits on it bc people were literally hearing the station in kitchen pots as crazy as that sounds (In the area close to where the broadcast originated)

[dreamy chasm]

I wanted an epiphone at some point

But I fell out of music

[sly elk]

yea I wanted a blue epiphone until I saw the PRS

but those are $800+

[inland mauve]

fuck the Microsoft Mail app

that piece of shit just deleted all of my accounts

I need to start over now

[sly elk]

Hehe I ordered the squier after all

[sharp star]

so if I'm correct the RDNA3 embargo lifts in 2 hours and 37 minutes

[lost python]

Looking forward to the reviews after work

But

Given from what I have seen, the cards appear to be disappointing

[royal forge]

FFS

Nvidia literally serving the gpu market on a silver platter

[real edge]

hopefully they turn out good

I want some good competition

[potent arrow]

Just be decent price

That's all I ask

And it's all that'll take to kick Nvdia in the gonads

[real edge]

apparently its gonna be like 1100-1200 euro in europe

[potent arrow]

[lost python]

899/999 msrp at the AMD store if you are lucky to get one there and if they ship to your place

But i am pretty sure they will be perma sold out given that apparently only 40k cards are available at launchday with like 160k more coming

[real edge]

999msrp

with 20% vat

1200

:<

[lost python]

Idk

Last gen was also 999 as advertised

[real edge]

the euro has tanked since then

hopefully they keep their word but

vat fucks

[lost python]

Will have to see

If AMD slaps the tax on top then I won't buy their cards either

[dreamy chasm]

Why

[royal forge]

When the fuck was that

[deep sapphire]

Lmao long time ago it was from the Star Wars MMO forums

“1 TERABYTE”

[royal forge]

ITS AN ENTIRE TERABYTE

OH SHIT SON

A QUADRA PROCESSOR

[deep sapphire]

HAHAHAHA

[royal forge]

SOUND BLASTER

FOXCONN

[deep sapphire]

2100 AFTER THE WARRANTY AND GEEKSQUAD PROTECTION

like how dumb do you have to be to spend almost double the value of the PC for some bullshit warranty lmao

[dull garnet]

Sheesh, I only had a 32gb ssd in 2010

[real edge]

rumors but, we will see soon

[umbral moss]

depends how good the warranty is

if they replace the whole thing with equivalent new value parts no questions asked, that's worth it

evga used to do that before they decided to become a shitbird company

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We71eXwKODw

4080 levels at $200 cheaper

better rasterization but if you care about Nvidia-specific tech go with that

[umbral moss]

raytracing is a DX spec, not an nvidia thing

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp star]

wasn't talking about ray tracing

[real edge]

wtf happened here

some weird results

[modest moss]

Basic quality tests will never be of interest to me

[real edge]

some games were the gpu was amazing

some games where it was meh

somethings weird

its an inconsistent gpu

but

its at the level of the 4080

provided there is no ray tracing involved

[modest moss]

Can't imagine buying a high end gpu and not wanting raytracing

[real edge]

RT its basically

a 30 series nvidia gpu

with 40 level rasterization

at a 300$ cheaper price

[modest moss]

I guess good for high fps whores

[real edge]

anything to beat some sense into nvidias prices

the 7900xtx is weird essentially

maybe driver issues?

its good for the price even with that said

[sharp star]

yeah it looks like a good card, but reference card is ew

[modest moss]

Amd with inconsistent drivers? No way, absolutely unheard of!

How much is it?

[sharp star]

now we wait for the 7900 XT reviews

[modest moss]

Not bad tbh

[real edge]

hardware unboxed tested with a 5800x3d

for some reason

[sharp star]

yeah and GN with a 12700KF

[umbral moss]

why wouldn't they? the 7950x is apparently garbo if you game with it

[real edge]

testing with a 13700kf would have been better I think

or a 7700x

rather than an old gen cpu where the vcache plays a big role

[dull garnet]

My card is now too slow to be on that list

Feels bad man

[sharp star]

reviewers are saying that the XT is worse in price-performance ratio

[umbral moss]

my titan XP is long dead

six years is a long time in GPU time

[modest moss]

Hi hi

[lost python]

steves face says it all lmao

[real edge]

the 4080 is essentially dead unless they drop the price

[dull garnet]

$1000 is still twice what I'd pay for a GPU

[lost python]

my current 6900xt in a nutshell

[umbral moss]

bold of you to think leather jacketman will ever do that

they were charging $2500 for the titan V until the very last card went in the dump

[real edge]

nvidia did not have competition back then

so they could charge whatever they wanted

[modest moss]

You should still get a few years out of that 3060ti tho

[umbral moss]

nvidia doesn't have competition now lmao

[lost python]

what the fuck did i understand that right, they observed load spikes up to 725w?

[umbral moss]

yeah, that's not uncommon for these new GPUs

[dull garnet]

Oh yeah, tbh I'll probably get even more than that. Just saying

[umbral moss]

they specifically designed the ATX 3.0 spec to force PSU companies to be able to handle 3x their rated power for several hundred milliseconds

[lost python]

[umbral moss]

because GPUs demand so much transient power

[dull garnet]

I tried that DX12 mode in Fortnite with highest settings and it was dipping below 60 occasionally

[sharp star]

yeah and RDNA3 isn’t 12VHPWR

[umbral moss]

neither is the 4080/90 lmao

[real edge]

wtf is that coil whine hahaha

[umbral moss]

it's just a fuse with a long timer

[modest moss]

Fortnite on dx12 and their Ray tracing sucks

[dull garnet]

Oh maybe I had RT on

[modest moss]

Fortnite raytracing makes textures look really weird for me

[real edge]

those transients makes the 7900xtx dead to me, unless some AIB fixes that

[dull garnet]

I've never had coil whine

#blessed

[modest moss]

Looks like Norwich City football club badge

[lost python]

it shouldnt be a big problem is they really stay that short in duration

[real edge]

I have a 750w psu

💀

parents suing companies cause they suck at parenting what else is new

[modest moss]

Courts should fine any parent involved in that suit

[umbral moss]

ATX 3.0 compliant PSUs are surprisingly affordable

MSI's ATX 3.0 thing is only $370

if you want the 1300W one

if you only want the 1000W it's like $279

[modest moss]

370 for a psu is not affordable for many people

[umbral moss]

if you're blowing $1000 on a GPU

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[real edge]

370$ psu LOL

[lost python]

im impressed how much amd catched up in raytracing performance though

[wide hill]

should just buy 2 100$ psu's

[lost python]

pretty much on the same level of the 4080 now

[umbral moss]

not as long as the 3080 sells at that price

[lost python]

nah nvidia knows their fanbase will buy anyway

[umbral moss]

yeah

nvidia has literally zero pressure on them to ever change their price strategy

[lost python]

so many people in my surroundings already purchased the 4090 right from the beginning...

[umbral moss]

intel being like "we're getting 3060 performance for $400, don't forget about us"

[modest moss]

On Spotify I keep getting adverts for a UK prebuilt company really pushing 4080 builds hard

[lost python]

intel be like "amd has shit drivers? hold my beer"

[umbral moss]

unlike AMD they're actually updating their drivers lmao

they fixed DX9 performance with the last driver release

[modest moss]

It would be good if Intel get even vaguely competitive

2 horse races suck

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/you-you-can-literally-see-it-literally-see-it-see-gif-23042467

[lost python]

so is amd though. they pushed like 5 drivers in the past 3 months and finally fixed some rather serious issues

[modest moss]

It means you're related to Bob marley

[lost python]

and at least with my amd card i can play games

[modest moss]

3 little birds

[real edge]

if it wasn't for the transients I would consider the 7900xtx

but my 750w psu cannot handle them

and I am not willing to swap psus

[deep sapphire]

1000 bucks for a GPU is still ridiculous to me

[real edge]

AXi 2.4

I can run the 4090 undervolted which is hilarious

but not a 30 series gpu

because reasons

HXi

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/hxi-series-config/p/CP-9020072-NA

this

[potent arrow]

I've always wondered how hard it would be for me to try and counter transient with my own modifications

[real edge]

probably with some undervolting

[umbral moss]

depends how much you're willing to lose on the performance headroom

[potent arrow]

I've been taking signals and control systems and we've been heavily focused on designing compensation circuits and stuff

Dampening etc.

Could be a fun project to get me mildy killed

[potent arrow]

I mean like modding the PSU with my own stuff

[real edge]

so it can handle transients like a 1000w psu?

[umbral moss]

that's on the AC inlet side

the problem is that the DC load side can pull more power than the output circuitry can produce

and the duration of that transient load is what kills your PSU

like, you literally had that issue with your 3090 because you didn't want to use a single rail PSU

weren't you fighting with evga for months because your PSU kept shutting off

[glossy ravine]

No idea why but suddenly the 7th core's number suddenly shot up to like 4k on the Ryzen panel thing

[real edge]

I bought that thing back then and paid a premium for it for a reason

I am gonna use it for one more gen

[umbral moss]

I mean, you're comparing a 750W PSU to ATX 3.0 compliant devices and PSUs with 50-100% more DC power output

and significantly better efficiency

MSI's meg units are like 94% efficiency at 240V and 70-90% loading

absolutely bonkers

[dull garnet]

superior 240v

[umbral moss]

same

higher voltage is always more efficient

should be using 480V for direct three-phase taps but what do I know

[kindred brook]

so

XT > XTX > 4080 > 4090?>

is that the tl dr

ray tracing tax tho

https://www.amazon.com/JBER-Charcoal-Acoustic-Fireproof-Soundproof/dp/B07PB1VDSK/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=soundproofing&qid=1670859800&sr=8-9

does this reflect some coming from outside the room too?

[lost python]

a lil bit

its more for getting rid of echoing inside a room though

[dull garnet]

so which are you ordering ice

[modest moss]

AM bought a 4090, Ice has to respond with his own dumb flex

Can't you just clean off some lube?

Skill issue

L and ratio and all that

Just buy cheap keyboards like me ez

No comment

[bitter girder]

Neither I just spit on my hands

[modest moss]

My no comment was instead of 'your poor wife'

[umbral moss]

I'd gladly replace my hands with superior cybernetic units

although cybernetics need massive breakthroughs in material science to be better than the boring goopy organic ones you start the game with

bone is super difficult to beat in weight/strength ratio

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/fap-robot-robotarm-robot-fapping-fapping-gif-12055844

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/arm-robot-49685-cookie-wolfenstein-gif-13167836

[umbral moss]

I mean, yeah, bone isn't indestructible

but steel would have gotten fucked up in one of those presses too

sometimes you just have to accept the L

[modest moss]

OK boys cyan is here, behave now

[dreamy chasm]

[umbral moss]

whomst

[kindred brook]

Hmmm ok

[modest moss]

If you seriously don't know who cyan is you need to pay more attention

She's been a regular here as long as me basically

[umbral moss]

I don't know most of the people on this server

[umbral moss]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/11/23504346/sony-returnal-pc-ram-recommendation

16 GB is fine for games, you don't need more

[modest moss]

yes one game proves you right ed, sure

and this is based off a steam listing

so a 6th gen i5 and a 1060 can run it, but you NEED 16gb ram

sure ok

[modest moss]

rEpLaY VaLuE

same

but that's how they justify it

[jaunty light]

Block's on the way so should hopefully have it done on friday 🙏

Dont even need to wc the card tho, my strix only runs at 60c at 120 power lim

Still in throttle range but yknow

True

[dull garnet]

Hard is tryhard

[cerulean talon]

If bending it wasn't such a pain, I'd do so much more hard tubing in my rigs.

But I also don't like the look of the hard 90 joints.

[umbral moss]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/am-radio-cars.html

if you can make a car that drives itself, you can engineer a radio that receives AM stations

https://tenor.com/view/sad-tantrum-angry-i-dont-want-to-gif-11164357

[cerulean talon]

Wait, that's a thing?

O.o I need to find these.

Huh, I'll have to go shopping for the next rig.

[dull garnet]

so glad the gf doesn't have gross nails like that

[umbral moss]

you could try... a razor blade 🤔

[dull garnet]

i have barely any body hair

[cerulean talon]

<3 This is gonna make hard tubing so much more viable.

[dull garnet]

[cerulean talon]

I just get frustrated doing custom bent tubing because I'm impatient af.

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-crying-sad-emotional-sentimental-gif-20646670

little known fact, all known sightings of bigfoot are just me going to the lake in the summer

[dull garnet]

zero testosterone

[umbral moss]

[dull garnet]

that looks so bad

[modest moss]

I swear you dick around with your config more than you actually use it

[hard drift]

anybody with those kinds of nails 🤢

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/moira-overwatch-black-watch-talon-sassy-gif-19380053

[dull garnet]

don't really even liked painted nail tbh, weirds me out for some reason

[hard drift]

🤢

[dull garnet]

vertical gpu is a stupid fad

SFF I can understand, ATX though - nah

[umbral moss]

it depends on how you want to fold your mechanics into a box

[dull garnet]

additionally a riser cable is just introducing another point of failure needlessly

[umbral moss]

not offhand

the GPU would get the bulk of the cooling so you might want a second pump and just run it that way

for a second pump?

put it outside and run the tubing through the side

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I just put everything on the side of the case outside lmao

[dull garnet]

i member when people would mount rads externally