technology-discussion

[potent arrow]

PLEASE NOTE HANK IS TALKING ABOUT PINS ON A CPU NOT A SOCKET

[deep sapphire]

https://shop.snapon.com/product/Special-Purpose-(Pliers)/9-1-2"-90°-Bent-Needle-Nose-Pliers-(Red)/490CF

[strange garnet]

tiny tweezers

[potent arrow]

Or just a needle and patience

[deep sapphire]

yeah I wouldnt fuck with pins on a socket lol

at that point its shot and getting RMA'd

[outer sand]

wait what, that's thick

[paper tusk]

I have the cheapass version of that (pliers) and yeah they are thicc

[sly elk]

i'm glad i have a credit card that covers accidental damage

for 90 days anyway lol

[deep sapphire]

wow not buying 100 dollar snap-on pliers

pffft

PSSSH

PFFFSSSH

I thought snap-on didnt let you buy shit online

im glad we can meme about their overpriced tools now

[paper tusk]

have to support your local snarf off truck driver somehow, they have turf wars with other distributers

[outer sand]

ok I looked up at my old mobo again, apparently the pins weren't bent, but gone, probably glued with the microfibre cloth and stick with them ._.

hopeless

no needle or tweezers can fix this

[paper tusk]

[sly elk]

whyyyy

[outer sand]

is that how truck suspension suppose to work? lol

the spacing between the tire and fender at the back seems pretty thin 😹 or is it just me

[paper tusk]

it doesn't exist becuase the wheels are basically put on backwards and spaced out

[sly elk]

i haaate that look

[outer sand]

I forgot what's it's called deep dish rims?

I remember a lot of JDM VIP style use this kind of looks, not sure if it's still a trend now

[paper tusk]

if i wanted a deep dish pizza pan I'll get one from a restaurant supply otherwise I prefer not destroying my car's suspension

[outer sand]

this? haha

[paper tusk]

that looks like it was designed for picking fights with driveway curb lips, and speed bumps

and probably lose

[outer sand]

yeah air suspension, lol

[sly elk]

it kinda gives me scion xb vibes

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLpuq0jyiCE

[outer sand]

yeah, I think it belongs to the same category, K-Car/Truck

[deep sapphire]

AND FOR 19.95 YOU CAN RENT THIS MUTHA FUCKA

[sly elk]

that one's even a gm!

that video is exhibit A why rental car agencies charge more for people under 25 years old

[outer sand]

that truck is rwd? 😹

oh wait, most trucks are rwd 🥲

[deep sapphire]

https://external-preview.redd.it/qGdM3l3g5qHR8IqC7kAoTwG0r9Q8XZ13kg1tPYxnzP0.jpg?auto=webp&s=db6a6d0d9f05cfc565767b0e3c8af9b4887e3491

yeah most trucks are RWD and the ones that are 4WD have whats called a transfer case, its almost always in RWD until activated

[sly elk]

^

here's an idiot demonstrating that 😄

https://youtu.be/dfJXSg5AiMg?t=67

lol

'partial off'

chrysler's esp is pretty lax about preventing rear wheel spin from a stop

[deep sapphire]

GOT DAT RUBICON BABY

[sly elk]

even with the full on it lets a lot of wheel slide happen

because it's chrysler lol

[deep sapphire]

I think im gonna slap in an LQ9 vortec in my truck

[sly elk]

and people who buy mopar products like making rear wheels spin

[deep sapphire]

I found someone that can sell me a pulled one for 600 bucks

long block with harness

fuckin bargain

LETS MAKE IT TWIN TURBO BABY 1400 HP

1400 HP OBS CHEVY

WE DOIN THIS

[sly elk]

maaaan

watching 392 wrangler videos

i'm jealous of their exhaust note

[sly elk]

lol

392 sounds so much cooler though

[sly elk]

but the 6.4l is adorable

with the beeeeee

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/qzVBpddpK2k

392 is a 6.4

[sly elk]

https://youtu.be/pFisGP-XiSA?t=389 this covers all the best and worst things about wranglers and well, adding a 392 i guess lol

[deep sapphire]

Also I love how the video length is 4:54

[sly elk]

seems his steering's a little worse than average

but err yea it usually is on the crappy side

[deep sapphire]

454 BIG BLOCK BABY

[sly elk]

oh my goodness

v8 lol

v8 lawnmower lmao

that's a suicide machine right there

but it sounds so much better than a usual lawnmower engine

[deep sapphire]

THIS IS AMERICA

[sly elk]

ahhhhh

it's a shame chevy doesn't make a v8 sedan anymore

[deep sapphire]

Lmao is that the 632

Fuckin thing is like 10.4 liters

10.4 LITER ENGINE

God I want that so bad

12:1 compression on pump gas

On some fuckin dusty ass 1950s technology

With some cops following me on the way

The best thing about Chevy is the old vortec LS engines

Literally you can go down to a junkyard

Grab an old engine for 500 bucks

Throw a new camshaft and springs in it which any toddler could do

And you got yourself 650 ponies

For under 1000 bucks

Engine masters literally tested an engine with like 200,000 miles on it

On boost

And made like 900 hp

Lmao

Those engines were so overbuilt

[sly elk]

it's a shame there are basically no good ct6-v (blackwing v8) videos out there

they probably only made like 50 of them lol

[deep sapphire]

I’m still mad they only made the blackwing V8 for like 3 years Lmao

[sly elk]

afaik the ct6 version was only made for a very short run at the end of its production

i think they may have even built them in the china factory lol

at least it got its run in the ct5-v

but the ct5 is such a lame design by comparison >>

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

plenty of good camaro ss videos at least

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/6ZknpQp4UuE

God it sounds so good

I fuckin love the color too

[outer sand]

ooo is it better compared to buying ex-military vehicle?

the price is pretty steep, the first one is $450k+ USD 👀

[sly elk]

those things are so lame

that if you drive one your penis will fall off

[umbral moss]

to be fair, military vehicles aren't that tough lmao

most of them are made to the cheapest possible specs and they hope it doesn't get shot at

[sly elk]

also they're made to be easily serviced 50 years from now

[outer sand]

huh I thought US military budget is really big 👀

[sly elk]

yea but they don't spend all of it on those

[outer sand]

ic ic, so ex-military vehicles are vehicles that are too expensive to be serviced?

[sly elk]

not necessarily

but maybe

under the skin most of them are pretty basic commercial chassis stuff

iirc the hummer used regular gm v8s and stuff

the purpose built parts are the things that are annoying to deal with

https://jalopnik.com/this-is-the-sneakiest-panther-platform-hot-rod-ever-bui-1849871201

that car somehow looks menacing

i like it

[umbral moss]

it's all wasted on pork very important stuff that will help america defend freedom

[outer sand]

https://youtu.be/qXRy6z7P1lI this one is the same, L12A -> K20A engine 👀 800 BHP, smaller car so more lightweight to build sleeper car on

even stock wheels

[sly elk]

oh noes

the top on my case isn't opening

ahh nevermind, we're good! unplugged it for a minute and when I plugged it back in it started up like normal

[royal forge]

A lego case would be cool

[outer sand]

till you hit it with your pinky toe 🥲 pain

[sly elk]

one time i pulled my tower out from under my desk to work on it. I joked with my mom that I would have to remember this so I didn't trip on it

not 2 mins later

got up to go get something and tripped on it

[sly walrus]

was the tower ok

[sly elk]

i mean yea it was a powermac g4, was totally fine lol

[sly walrus]

ooh

back when apple towers were worth a damn

[sly elk]

vintage setup pic 🙂

hmm

ah 2007, that g4 was old by then

i got a lot of mileage out of that computer lol

[outer sand]

in 2007 you already using 2 monitors? 🥲

[sly elk]

lol it had a geforce 4mx that could drive 2 monitors

in that pic the pc was driving the second screen

here, this is the oldest setup pic I have

from 2002 lol

[outer sand]

I don't remember what I used back then, but I remember having pentium 3 once

[sly elk]

heheh as I recall, the 3 pcs on the floor had a celery 900mhz, a cyrix 266, and a 133mhz pentium

something like that

they were frankensteins

the middle monitor was a pretty ok 17"

the right one was a really not great 14" CTX

[outer sand]

yeah I have no idea about those series :P, earliest I have was pentium 3 and I was too stupid to use it, only my older brother used it haha

[sly elk]

iirc 640x480 at 60hz, or 800x600 at like 50hz?

900mhz celeron was a p3 with missing things

the g4 was a spaceship by comparison, amusingly slower clockspeed. 2 processors at 800mhz

[outer sand]

I don't remember how many hz I had, but I see my older bro played cs and warcraft 3 just fine 😹

[potent arrow]

I hate Pre emptive SJF scheduling gant charts

reEeeEEEE

[bitter girder]

You guys are old

[dull garnet]

repasted my video card

[royal forge]

Sadge

No more keychron C2s with no LED that are hot swappable

[jaunty light]

My hotel view is simply, exquisite

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-pogchamp-pog-meme-thats-kinda-of-pog-gif-21813748

[modest moss]

Ah yes, lush desert

[modern iris]

what do you guys think ? which one? https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-2560x1440-DisplayPort-Adjustable-E275B-QPN168/dp/B08SZH8J2T/ref=sr_1_20?crid=2PBDUXEFPH7Y0&keywords=qhd%2Bmonitor&qid=1670594021&sprefix=qhd%2Bmonitor%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-20&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/LG-24QP500-B-FreeSync-Virtually-Borderless/dp/B08YJWYMD5/ref=sr_1_3?crid=HEVDVT2JZ60V&keywords=lg%2B24qp500-b&qid=1670425846&sprefix=lg%2B24qp500-b%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-3&th=1

[umbral moss]

is screen real estate more important?

[modern iris]

not really

[umbral moss]

LG makes breddy gud IPS monitors, since they actually make their own panels

[modern iris]

i just want qhd with hdr

[umbral moss]

most other companies contract with AUO

[modern iris]

the lg does have like 4k ratings on it

[umbral moss]

(acer is the premium partner for AUO, so they get priority for A stock from AUO)

so if you don't get an LG get an acer, ironically

acer monitors are surprisingly good

[modern iris]

thats what i have now

1080p 24" 75 hz 1 ms

its acer

[umbral moss]

so what's your budget and what are you looking for it to do?

just 1440/60?

[modern iris]

no more than 200 and yeah mostly single player games

[umbral moss]

the LG is probably right on the mark then, even if it's a little small

27" is better for 1440 since the pixel pitch makes things a little hard to read

[modern iris]

i do play a little csgo though

[modest moss]

You won't get proper hdr at that resolution or price

[umbral moss]

windows also gets pissy about high DPI, it tries to scale it but some programs aren't hiDPI aware and they just shrink down into teeny weeny eye-strain-o-vision

[modern iris]

so the 27 inch might be better?

[modest moss]

@real edge shining the monitor bat signal, save this guy from a bad buy

[modern iris]

also with hdr, it depends on resolution?

[umbral moss]

HDR depends on the backlight and the extinction ratio of the display

[modest moss]

My understanding is limited, that's why I've pinged nhadala

[umbral moss]

IPS tends to have kind of underwhelming extinction so it doesn't get those really poppin HDR values

[modest moss]

He will help you for sure

[umbral moss]

but you trade your meh black levels for way better color reproduction and fast refresh rates

VA panels are so slow

[modern iris]

hmm

hdr isnt suuuper important, but i want something with 1440p

[modest moss]

My monitor has an utterly pointless hdr mode

1440p is nice

Be patient and talk to nhadala, they love monitors

[umbral moss]

also consider that HDR is something of a meme when you have a backlit double polarizer setup instead of self-fluorescing pixels

you can't achieve true black and you can't pump enough light to reach genuine HDR1000 or better

your brightest whites are still kind of muddy greys

[modern iris]

what about viewsonic ? good brand?

[umbral moss]

viewsonic is good

they make reference grade monitors, but those are way out of your price target

[modern iris]

https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VX2768-2KP-MHD-Frameless-FreeSync-DisplayPort/dp/B093SJ2TTB/ref=sr_1_18?crid=2L5XKFMLSS3R3&keywords=1440p%2Bmonitor&qid=1670595348&refinements=p_89%3AViewSonic%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A17751808011|17751809011&rnid=17751799011&s=pc&sprefix=1440p%2Bmonitor%2Caps%2C89&sr=1-18&th=1

theres taht

but its a refurb

so idk

[umbral moss]

it's hard to gauge because amazon returns tend to have nothing wrong with them at all, they just get returned and thrown in a big bin

so they occasionally dust everything off and re-sell it as "refurbished"

they don't do any repair/refurbishing on their own

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-7900-xt-3dmark-timespy-firestrikes-scores-are-in if these are true then i was correct about the 7900 xtx being about 10% faster at best

[umbral moss]

Unfortunately, RX 7900 series are unable to compete with RTX 4090 in those tests.

who was telling me the 7900 would be within 10% of the 4090?

[real edge]

was outside touching grass, will look at it now

[hard drift]

i think it was ice?

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-determined-maury-gif-14977649

[hard drift]

i was saying it would be better than 4080

[umbral moss]

the 4090 is just way out in its own universe

[real edge]

haihai what is your budget

[umbral moss]

yeah, he was like "you'll be surprised :)"

[modern iris]

200 max

[umbral moss]

narrator: he was not surprised

[hard drift]

i have a feeling amd will be able to compete with that class of card next gen since they'll hopefully have MCM in better condition

[umbral moss]

I mean, maybe the 8900 will be good?

[modest moss]

200 for a 27" 1440p ips is tight but at the same time that 180 refurb viewsonic is probably ok

[hard drift]

maybe they'll introduce another class of card to compete with the 90 class

[real edge]

200 is a bit low

[modern iris]

i know 😦

[real edge]

US?

[modern iris]

but thats what i got

yeah

atleast the refurb can probably return it

if its bad

[hard drift]

the only chance i see of them getting to 4090 level or even close is driver updates

since they always do

[umbral moss]

nah, finewine isn't going to get you a 40% performance increase lmao

[hard drift]

yeah lol

i said close though

[umbral moss]

the 4090 is just playing an entirely different game

[hard drift]

since all they need is to be close for a win

[modest moss]

Bidori huffing amd copium

[modern iris]

alright ima get the viewsonic. ive heard enough good thngs about them

[hard drift]

nah it's true

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

by the time finewine catches up to the 4090 the 5090 ti will be out

[hard drift]

for them to have a win this generation they just need to be within 4090 territory

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-stop-coping-subhuman-coping-just-right-gif-20747920

[umbral moss]

nvidia isn't even competing with anyone but themselves at this point

[hard drift]

for highest end yeah

[real edge]

GIGABYTE M27Q-P if you can stretch your budget by 40-50$

its one of the best for its price point

[hard drift]

???

i said i'd ban you not kill your roles

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[modest moss]

Did bidori apply for mod

[hard drift]

no lol

[modest moss]

He might get it if he did I reckon

[umbral moss]

I wouldn't

[modest moss]

Yes apps are open #announcements

[hard drift]

i'd hate this server and leave forever if i did

i don't want this server to feel like a chore

[modest moss]

You're a chore

[hard drift]

plus i've done moderation for a big server, it's hell

[hard drift]

the best chore

if i get it you'd be the first to know gotta live up to my word

[umbral moss]

moderation is hell, especially if they require you to enforce rules you think are stupid

I'm not a fan of judge dredd cosplay

[hard drift]

https://tenor.com/bxhfA.gif

[umbral moss]

dredd enforces the law because it's the law, regardless of the ethics or morality thereof

he has no sense of justice

[modest moss]

It's the classic debate, do you work within the system to bring about change, at the risk of becoming an enabler of those same things you don't agree with

[umbral moss]

I mean, the point of dredd is that he doesn't question the system

his entire function is to satirize thugs masquerading as law enforcement, because the brutality is the point of the system

[opal panther]

Information

A full list of server rules can be found in #about-this-server

[modern iris]

change we can depend on

[modest moss]

I didn't mean it related to dredd, I meant in relation to this server

Hmm what was deleted

[umbral moss]

quois? wasn't me

as far as I can tell

[modest moss]

Oh well

[real edge]

tbh I would just go with the gigabyte monitor, missing out on that is a shame cause the under 200monitors are all 1080p ones and the quality of the 1440p ones is piss poor under 200

just 40-50 more

you would do your eyes a favor but

at the end of the day its up to you

[umbral moss]

https://www.motortrend.com/features/2025-corvette-suv-brand-ai-renderings/

aiyo, this looks 🔥

so of course chevy won't make it

they'll make some horrible tank-slot shitbox that you can't see a fucking thing out of and it'll look like someone chipped the body panels out of a brick with a chisel

[outer sand]

would you guys recommend qflash plus?

the one that you can press the button, and the bios will update itself? or just normal qflash? like plug in monitor, and do it from the bios itself

[dull garnet]

both will achieve the same result

may as well do the easier method

[bitter girder]

I am by an castle

[modest moss]

Wales is pretty ngl

[outer sand]

Can I use this screw for this hole? Or do I need a special type of screw? Why is there a lead solder around it??

It won't break if I use this screw right??

yeah

One has this lead pattern, what does it even mean??

[umbral moss]

they're using the screw as a ground...?

[outer sand]

Yeah there's a post underneath it

[umbral moss]

that seems like a really fuckin stupid idea

[outer sand]

one has 2 and the other has 6, need 2 different type of screws or?

I don't remember, I bought this case long time ago 🥲

nani, need 9?

I don't think I have that much

micro atx

[outer sand]

is it not normally this way? 🥲

I only have 5 screws, zzz

[umbral moss]

I wouldn't have designed the board ground to be using the case chassis as part of the ground circuit, personally

[dull garnet]

you people sure have some vivid imaginations

[dull garnet]

ai is cringe

[outer sand]

ow, that qflash thing is quick ._.

not even 5 mins, already finished

[dull garnet]

the bios is a tiny chip

16-32MB usually

[dreamy chasm]

I've seen people make do with 3

[umbral moss]

yeah, bios updates are usually fast and easy

unless you did something wrong, then it's fucked lmao

[dreamy chasm]

Just put screws where it'd make sense

[winter wagon]

And don't ask about the paper washers

[outer sand]

Lol where are these 2 going?

I assume the right male is only for speakers?

why there are so many power led? >.>

[winter wagon]

The "Power SW" plug goes on the top row third and fouth pin from the left

The Power+ goes on the top row, left most, and the power- goes on the top row second pin

[outer sand]

ok

also this, my new GPU hasn't arrived yet, if the old GPU is just gtx 1050, should I still put it on the PCIEX16?

since gtx 1050 isn't either in no 1 and 2 category

[winter wagon]

The "Power SW" is your power switch it works by just temporarily shorting those two pins to tell the motherboard to start up. The other two are for the power LED, and they are seperte because some motherboards have a 2-pin plug and some have a 3-pin plug, so having them separate is more universal

[outer sand]

ok

[winter wagon]

There is never a reason NOT to put in on the x16 slot. If it doesn't need all 16 channels, it just won't use them

[modest moss]

yes, put it in main pcie x16

yeah

[glossy ravine]

Hi gamers.

So I'm about to start to replace my CPU

I was told I should update the BIOS before installing it?

[winter wagon]

Usually a good idea, as a firmware update can sometimes include microcode updates to better support newer processors

[glossy ravine]

Because I checked my sysinfo and it says it's running a version from 2020

How would I go about doing that?

[outer sand]

what's the mobo name?

[winter wagon]

firmware update procedures differ by motherboard. You'll have to check the readme that comes with the firmware download

[glossy ravine]

MSI B450-A Pro Max

[outer sand]

hmm not sure about MSI ._.

[winter wagon]

I think you can just download the firmware on to a FAT32 formatted USB drive, go into the BIOS, and there's a button to update the firmware, maybe?

[modest moss]

this is a 'read the manual' moment tbh

[winter wagon]

yeah

[glossy ravine]

Ah yeah... The manual I don't have anymore

[outer sand]

downloadable from the website usually hehe

[umbral moss]

you may have lost it, but the interent remembers forever

[outer sand]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-A-PRO-MAX/Overview

Wait so I can use my old DDR4 to get a (8x2)gb + (4x2)gb memory?

Is there such a thing as too much memory? Like using the 4 slots isn't recommended?

like using 2 slots is better than using 4 slots, that's what I mean

[umbral moss]

more memory slots used tends to require more voltage on the memory controller to combat vdroop when you're loading all the sticks

[outer sand]

what would you recommend? ._.

[umbral moss]

it's not ideal to load them all unless you don't plan on OCing at all and you have headroom to bump the voltage on the memory controller

the build I spec'd out was for 2x32 instead of 4x16

also because 2x32 is actually a little cheaper

[outer sand]

hmm

is this true? from google

[umbral moss]

you aren't going to break anything by using all four slots, no

[outer sand]

2 of the memories are the newer one with 3600mhz, and the older one are 2133mhz

[umbral moss]

but you will have to make concessions on voltage or frequency to get it to behave with all dimms populated

[umbral moss]

oh, no, you can't really do that

[outer sand]

and that means?

[umbral moss]

you're limited to the lowest speed of your sticks

[outer sand]

ok so the 2133mhz will bottleneck the 3600?

[umbral moss]

yeah, it will try to interleave A/C and B/D, and the clocks aren't synchronized so it won't work right

you have to set them all to 2133 then

if you had 4x 3600 you could load all the slots no problem, but you will have to do some tinkering to see if it will even post at the rated speed

I had a lot of issues with my ram running at their rated speed with all slots filled, versus only two slots filled

had to bring the vdimm up a little and boost the memory controller voltage

[modest moss]

yeah I'd just use the new 2x8 personally

[umbral moss]

16GB though

[outer sand]

which slot should I use?

out of the 4

[umbral moss]

I saw that 2x32 and my stupid hoarder brain was like "but you could have 4x32"

the fuck do I need 128GB of memory for, I'm not running huge matrix math sets

[umbral moss]

the manual tells you what slots to use for two-dimm, dual channel operation

it's usually A/C, you should confirm with your board's manual though

[outer sand]

Also just to confirm. Can I no longer use my h212 anymore? And I need to wait for my AK500?

[modest moss]

16gb is fine for their build

[umbral moss]

I know, but it just seems like such a small amount of memory

[modest moss]

behave

[umbral moss]

💰

[glossy ravine]

16 is fine for most things

[modest moss]

you already busted a mobo, just wait imo

[outer sand]

or H212 heatsink is just so old that even the heatsink that comes with my 5600 is better than my H212?

[modest moss]

would have waited for all parts before doing any of this

[umbral moss]

yeah

[glossy ravine]

It's uh. Been a hot minute

[umbral moss]

especially since some parts are super perishable and start de-valuing as soon as you put them in a cart

[modest moss]

the 212 isn't that bad, but if you have an upgrade coming just chill

[outer sand]

I mean if the ak500 is not necessary, I can just cancel the order, the problem is the store doesn't even know when it's ready to pick up

so I don't know how long I'm going to wait, I'm basically pre-ordering it

the GPU is the one that currently already on the way

[modest moss]

what cpu did you buy again?

[outer sand]

5600

people here said something that the AK500 isn't even necessary cause it has low VRM? or is there another metric, I'm not sure

what I understand that It doesn't get hot easily

[modest moss]

I'm not certain, it'd probably be 'ok' but it's not ideal and a better cooler will allow better boosting... ask @dull garnet or @hard drift the AMD lads

[dull garnet]

tbh

for games, i would enable pbo but only for undervolting and set the boost clock override to 200MHz. some recent testing on my 5600x i found that the all core OC helped a little in some benches but not enough to justify the extra 30c of heat

if you have no idea what you're doing anyway just use whatever

[dreamy chasm]

Just run at stock

pbo2 if you need more performance

[outer sand]

h212 is harder to install?

tbh my experience from taking it off, it's very hard to take it off 🥲

or is it just me not skilled enough to do it

[modest moss]

apparently it's 'hard' but I have not really found it hard to install the few times I've built with it

watch some videos mate

yt is your friend

[outer sand]

yeah, just wanted to know why you mentioned that haha

is it cause it's considered painful to install since it's an old item, or is it something else

[dull garnet]

there's also like 10 models of 212 over the years :p

i didn't have much trouble installing a 212x for a friend

i'm sure my cryorig is worse

[deep sapphire]

AMD stock brackets are the devil

[modest moss]

honestly, there's only so much advice and support we can give via this medium, there comes a point where you need to read documentation and watch videos

[dull garnet]

i bought some low profile tower for the gf's 5600x and that shit mounted with the latch mechanism

doesn't feel secure at all

[deep sapphire]

did you ever feel secure with AMD

[outer sand]

doesn't seem to have a version written in the heatsink or anywhere else

[deep sapphire]

[outer sand]

and, the fan seems universally used for multiple series

[dull garnet]

[modest moss]

that looks jank

[deep sapphire]

thats the stock AMD mounting hardware

its bad

intel's isnt much better though

[modest moss]

also if he's not going to overclock, is there any reason not to just use the cooler that comes with his 5600?

[dull garnet]

no

[modest moss]

@outer sand see that? just use the supplied AMD one maybe

[dull garnet]

ironically the stock coolers use a bracket + screw in mechanism now, motherboards still come with the old style brackets for some reason

the 3 people rocking old coolers

[glossy ravine]

Okay. So far so good

Pulled out the old CPU and put in the new one

[outer sand]

also how does heatsink fan works? is it always on or does it only turn on when the heatsink is hot?

[glossy ravine]

Good Hydaelyn, this heat sink is massive

[outer sand]

is there any way to check if my heatsink fan is still working?

beside plugging it into the motherboard and turning the power on

[dull garnet]

provide a 12v power source

[outer sand]

rip

[outer sand]

lol, looks like a model skyscraper 😹

[glossy ravine]

First step of installation and I'm already stumped

[modest moss]

youtube

[dull garnet]

rtfm

[modest moss]

that too

[outer sand]

https://youtu.be/d5v-_R5pWiY?t=523 this part is painful 🥲

who ever think this design, or is it normal for all heatsink?

[modest moss]

dude just use the one AMD sent you

it'll be fine

[outer sand]

I thought the bracket isn't safe?

[modest moss]

what

[dull garnet]

same

[outer sand]

this message https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/148162866208440321/1050839415041306624

[dull garnet]

the provided cooler doesn't use the bracket hank was referring to

[modest moss]

[glossy ravine]

Do... Do I have to remove the MB from my case?

[dreamy chasm]

try an l9a

shit's a nightmare to put in

you hold the cooler in from the other side while you try and keep it still for long enough to get the first two screws in

nothing to keep it in place

[dull garnet]

by low profile i mean below 10cm, not about 2

[outer sand]

depends on the case, but mine has 2 sided cover where you can just put on the custom heatsink bracket without taking the mobo out

[dull garnet]

it was a 92mm tower cooler

[glossy ravine]

https://youtu.be/rLciH8KIg0o

This is the video I'm following

[dreamy chasm]

ah

[dreamy chasm]

You shouldnt need to, if you have an access cutout in the back panel

[glossy ravine]

HALLELUJAH.

I officially love NZXT

Uh

This just fell out

Are

Is this the bit for the stand offs

[outer sand]

uh is that the bracket? that looks nice

looks sturdy at least ._.

[dull garnet]

that is indeed a bracket

[glossy ravine]

W E L L

[dull garnet]

some of these coolers it is a bit of a balancing act of cradling the bracket to the motherboard while you're doing everything else with the other hand

removing the motherboard makes it 5x easier

[dreamy chasm]

honey, new gaming mouse is out

[dreamy chasm]

That's natural

It isn't glued in place

Just kept in by whatever screws you just unscrewed

Check the installation guide to see if you need it for your specific cooler

[glossy ravine]

O h h

So that was kept in originally by these things

[dull garnet]

yes

[glossy ravine]

Copy.

[outer sand]

ok ty ty, seems all done now, just waiting for that GPU and then I can just turn it on 👀

[glossy ravine]

Time for thermal paste. Lordy.

The worst bit imo

5 dots

[dull garnet]

o.o

a pea for me

[glossy ravine]

Installation calls for 5 dots

Is this good?

[dull garnet]

yea

[glossy ravine]

O7

[winter wagon]

Noooo! You must first put on a small dot, then using a razor blade like a putty knife work the paste into the processor lid to fill in all the micro-cracks then scrape it off to leave a thin uniform layer then apply the paste in a broken X formation which you then spread out with the razor blade again from the inside out until you have a thin uniform layer then you put a small amount on the heat sink and work it in to the micro crack there as well before installing the heat sink making sure to apply uniform pressure

[dull garnet]

i used the spread method on my gpu earlier, and i feel dirtier for it

[winter wagon]

...We're still taking about thermal paste, right?

[dull garnet]

labia

[dreamy chasm]

Just clean it off with a brush

Paste is usually nonconductive anyway

[modest moss]

I take the radical step of following the directions that the cooler manufacturer provides for my cpu/socket

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/galax-officially-launches-geforce-rtx-4090-hof-dual-16-pin-and-666w-power-limit

[umbral moss]

there's literally no one way to do it lmao

[modest moss]

clearly

[umbral moss]

intel used to recommend just putting a line down the center of the IHS and slapping the sink on there

which yielded garbo temperatures because it didn't reach cores 5 and 6

[modest moss]

we're giving advice to relative novices though, so following the instructions from the cooler manufacturer is the safest bet

[umbral moss]

yeah, I don't know who's going to sit there and scrape 99.95% of the goop off their CPU three times to get the Perfect Thickness lmao

[dreamy chasm]

i like drawing a penis with the thermal paste and slamming it down

[umbral moss]

seems like a lot of paste 🤔

This is possible because RTX 4090 HOF is the only RTX 40 graphics card on the market with two 16-pin (12VHPWR) connectors.

I don't think there are any PSUs that have 2x VHPWR cables

MSI has one native VHPWR port

[dreamy chasm]

itll be fine

[dreamy chasm]

external psu + 16 pin adapters

most people getting a hof probably wouldnt give a shit anyway

[umbral moss]

just run a PSU exclusively for the GPU

[dreamy chasm]

yes

[umbral moss]

honestly, you'll have to get a second PSU to run a HOF anyway lmao

[dreamy chasm]

people have done that for sli 3090

[umbral moss]

it pulls more power on its own than the rest of the fucking computer

[dreamy chasm]

yeah

i wonder how well the 7900xtx will do

gottta wait for the benchies ig

[umbral moss]

early leaks put it just around the 4080, which is about where it's priced so

[dreamy chasm]

i tend not to look at leaks

[umbral moss]

In terms of cooling, GALAX confirms that RTX 4090 HOF has 9 heatpipes in total (either 8 or 6 mm), two 112 mm outer fans and 92 mm central fan.

why the fuck does it even come with a cooler

if you're buying a 700W space heater you already know you're putting a waterblock on it

or LN pot

[dreamy chasm]

because it'd be a bad look if they released an air card that has a cooler that isn't worth for shit

[umbral moss]

it's not an air card lmao

you're basically producing as much heat as a combustion engine at this point

[dreamy chasm]

still air

[umbral moss]

you've run out of surface area to dump all that heat into

[glossy ravine]

Should I uh

Remove the fan

[umbral moss]

is it touching?

[glossy ravine]

No

Just really close

[umbral moss]

it's aight then

close but not touching is A-OK

[dull garnet]

you installed the cooler upside down

ahahahaha

[real edge]

[glossy ravine]

I

Wh

[dull garnet]

what is going on

[glossy ravine]

Oh

It's sideways

The picture

[dull garnet]

...

[modest moss]

make sure those fans aren't fighting each other

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-worried-scared-look-gif-23041456

[glossy ravine]

Which fan goes in the middle?

Left or right?

[dull garnet]

left

is that a 80mm or 92mm up top?

i'd remove that, pointless

[glossy ravine]

Ty

Y'all are the best

Basically

They have arms on the side to

Hold onto the sinks

[dull garnet]

your plastic plate is upside down too

[umbral moss]

[glossy ravine]

Which one?

[glossy ravine]

Oh.

Whatever

Lmao

I thought the fan orientation was off

[dull garnet]

it was

[umbral moss]

it's off because the thing is inverted too

look at the fan edges

they don't line up

[glossy ravine]

Because like

They come off

Uh. Am I good to power on again

Because like.

I don't want anything to break

[dull garnet]

long as the fans are plugged in

[glossy ravine]

Okay fans are on

But no video?

[modest moss]

power the gpu

[dull garnet]

notice the red led

[modest moss]

my dude

[glossy ravine]

DUH

[modest moss]

read the manuals

please

[dull garnet]

nvidia cards used to give a nasty screech if you tried that

[glossy ravine]

Wow. I don't have the braincell today

It pulled me into the bios

[modest moss]

did you sort the gpu power correctly?

[glossy ravine]

Yeah. Turned the PC off

Plugged it in

Trying to close out just brings me back into it?

[modest moss]

so now sort the boot order in bios, then install windows

[glossy ravine]

Uh. I have windows installed.

[modest moss]

it's really manual time, I can't stress this enough

[glossy ravine]

This was just a CPU upgrade

[dull garnet]

[glossy ravine]

From a Ryzen 5 2600 to Ryzen 7 5800x3D

[dull garnet]

[glossy ravine]

Now that I got my CPU in and such.

What should I do first? Drivers or--?

[dull garnet]

shouldn't really need to do anything, you could do a chipset driver update for the heck of it though

[glossy ravine]

Doesn't AMD have something called Adrenaline

To monitor PC stats

[dull garnet]

that's for a video card

ryzen master is for cpu

[glossy ravine]

Gotcha

Uh. My GPU is plugged in but the fans aren't running?

Is that normal?

[dull garnet]

pretty common when there is no load

[winter wagon]

It can be. A lot of GPUs don't bother to turn on fans unless you have 3D rendering going

[glossy ravine]

My last concern. What is "normal" temperature for a CPU while running games?

[sly walrus]

not melting the components

[modest moss]

depends on the game and cpu, just google "cpu name safe temps"

[dull garnet]

thanks shue

[glossy ravine]

"As for the new Ryzen 7 5800X3D the Maximum Operating Temperture is 90c. So as long as the temperature doesn't reach or exceed 90c you are fine. It is best to keep temperature at least in the low 80c at maximum loads if possible."

Running XIV now.

Max settings and getting a buttery smooth 60 with slight drops to 59

[winter wagon]

XIV: the only relevant burn-in test

[modest moss]

! mute sarcastic weeb forever

[dull garnet]

[glossy ravine]

Everything looks to be all good now

[modest moss]

[paper tusk]

[lime wasp]

Man, I kinda want a 7900 XTX. Just because it looks sick AF.

But only the reference board version. The partner boards look like crap.

Though I'll never get one because I won't get one on launch day, and reference boards become rarer than an honest used car salesman after launch.

[dull garnet]

reference is the way

[lime wasp]

Seriously though.

AMD's reference cards look professional. Like something a serious enthusiast in their 20's or 30's would spend half a month's pay on.

All their 3rd party cards look like something a 14 year old is spending their $50 allowance on.

[hard drift]

That’s how i feel about all aib cards

They always look shit

[lime wasp]

The ASUS TUF cards at least look passable if you can't get a reference board.

But yeah the rest are generally poor. It wasn't so bad in the past, before tempered glass and having to see the parts every time you sit down to the desk.

[hard drift]

Nah even then they’re ass

[lime wasp]

The only AIB I like are the themed ones, but only in the context of the whole themed set.

So like the ASUS Gundam Card or the ASUS EVA card are cool...provided they're with the entire Gundam/EVA theme set.

Though I do have a soft spot for the Noctua 3060/3070, ugly as they are.

[hard drift]

🤢

[lime wasp]

Though the problem is with Nvidia the AIB cards have better cooling....

[hard drift]

Not always

[sly elk]

I have a gtx660 that displays a screen on the attached monitor instructing you to plug power in

[potent arrow]

Not really

[glossy ravine]

Bido, what Graphics card should I upgrade to now that I have my CPU situation sorted?

[dull garnet]

4090

[bitter girder]

4090

[modest moss]

do you even need one

[dull garnet]

we all need a 4090

[modest moss]

I dont

[bitter girder]

our energy bills dont

[modest moss]

well I could sell it

and then heat my house

[bitter girder]

fucking cold out now isnt it

[modest moss]

keep warm uk boys

gonna snow this weekend

[bitter girder]

wont snow here

it'll just be ice

which makes me sad

[modest moss]

go up lord hereford's knob

[dull garnet]

lewd

[modest moss]

it's a mountain

[bitter girder]

damn

[modest moss]

twmpa is the welsh name

it's a nice walk

[bitter girder]

LOL

right im sold im buying this in living in herefordshire

i hope it spits fire

[dull garnet]

"it's cheaper bros"
75% of the performance of a 4090

[outer sand]

I want PC that screams 'Oni-Chan' when I turned it on, and It will have LCD screen of anime girls waving before changing the display into performance overlay

[modest moss]

[deep sapphire]

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-cringe-cringe-oh-no-kimo-kimmo-gif-23168319

[outer sand]

https://youtu.be/RTdniu3gn3Y something like this 👀

rather than distracting you and taking space on your monitor, haha

[dull garnet]

my pc is on the floor

[modest moss]

carpet*

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[dull garnet]

my psu eats dust mites all day

[lime wasp]

If it's a serious question;

High End (EX: You're willing to spend $800+): Try to score a Radeon 7900 XT or XTX when they release on the 13th.

Otherwise for high end try to get an at MSRP 3080 (maybe even a 3080 Ti for holiday sale).

Mid-Range: Look for a 3060 Ti on sale or 6700XT (I saw one on Amazon for like $320 the other day).

Lower-Range: Look for a 3050 or 6600XT.

EDIT: This is new cards. You could probably find cheaper used like 2080s or even 1080s.

[outer sand]

tfw 6700xt is considered lower-range 🥹

[lime wasp]

I only said that because I think you can get a 6700XT for like $320

[dull garnet]

6700 XT is faster than a 3060 Ti

you're way off base

[modest moss]

6700xt and 3050 aren't equivalent lol

wtf

[lime wasp]

Oh shit I got my cards backwards hold on

[glossy ravine]

$885 was the cost of the kids PC entire build and you're saying It costs that much and more for a single graphics card?

[lime wasp]

I just re-read it

[modest moss]

what is your current gpu

[glossy ravine]

I have a XFX RX 5600 XT THICC PRO 14 GPBS with 6 GB of GDDR6

[dull garnet]

you'd need to spend a wad to get anything decently faster than that

[outer sand]

3050 is slower than my 6600xt 😹

[modest moss]

yeah you would just keep that until you have idk 600+ budget

[lime wasp]

It is still lower on the spectrum though than something like the 6700xt. In fact I think that $320 6700XT I saw might be an anomaly.

[glossy ravine]

I spent like... 300ish on my GPU when I bought it?

[lime wasp]

Actually it was not. It is actually still there.

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-SWFT309-Graphics-RX-67XLKWFDV/dp/B0BCL3L6ZG/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=dKhxe&content-id=amzn1.sym.e4bd6ac6-9035-4a04-92a6-fc4ad60e09ad&pf_rd_p=e4bd6ac6-9035-4a04-92a6-fc4ad60e09ad&pf_rd_r=FBV40XH9MDCJAPGMHZXH&pd_rd_wg=pqg4w&pd_rd_r=d260a007-d8ad-4776-af52-eb4a5c7bac18&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m

[dull garnet]

source: trust me bro

[lime wasp]

See my link above. XFX 6700xt new from Amazon for $320

[modest moss]

says out of stock to me

[dull garnet]

that's a 6700

not a 6700 XT

[modest moss]

and it's not yeah, that

[dull garnet]

fairly decent level of performance for that money still

[glossy ravine]

Ah, 270 not counting tax

Is what I paid for my GPU

[modest moss]

your finances ain't my business, but you mentioned buying that cpu on credit, I'd suggest enjoy what you've got and pay that off

[glossy ravine]

Already have.

[modest moss]

slick

[glossy ravine]

If there's 1 thing I can't stand, it's being in debt.

[modest moss]

then to do that cpu justice, save up a decent chunk

[outer sand]

is 6700 nice, is it a huge upgrade from 6600xt?

[dull garnet]

no

[lime wasp]

Oh, the 6700xt I saw was $420

https://www.amazon.com/Graphics-WINDFORCE-Cooling-192-bit-GV-R67XTEAGLE-12GD/dp/B08Z4J6NHW/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3B169V91WX6RB&keywords=6700xt&qid=1670637466&s=electronics&sprefix=6700xt%2Celectronics%2C78&sr=1-6

My bad.

I wish AMD's naming conventions were easier so it was easier to keep track of at a glance.

Trying to sort through a browsing history of "6....GPU" isn't easy.

[dull garnet]

blaze it

[outer sand]

i remember I had to add like extra $80 if i have to choose 6700 instead of 6600xt hehe

[modest moss]

with a 5800x3d you really want a chonky gpu

[dull garnet]

like a 4090

[outer sand]

$399 vs $480 🥲

upside down price

[modest moss]

3080 upwards I'd think

[glossy ravine]

Question

[lime wasp]

I wanted to make that joke but I left it for you and Shue

[glossy ravine]

Are AM5 Mobo Backwards compatible with AM4

[dull garnet]

no

[lime wasp]

No

[glossy ravine]

Duly noted

[lime wasp]

Use a completely different socket type

[dull garnet]

going by techpowerup the 6600 xt is about 6% slower than a 6700

[modest moss]

[lime wasp]

Your only big upgrades from a 6600XT would maybe be a 6900? Or waiting for the 7900 series Tuesday?

And even then I wouldn't think the $$$$ to Perf. upgrade would make sense until you got to the 7900 level.

[modest moss]

he wants to upgrade from a 5600xt

the other guy just bought the 6600xt

[dull garnet]

I was answering Vielen Dank

[glossy ravine]

Outside of GPU, I'd practically have to build a new rig for AM5

[outer sand]

ah ty ty

yeah, ignore me sorry 🤦‍♂️

[modest moss]

I was more directing that at Paragon

[dull garnet]

[glossy ravine]

Mom is getting married this month, and the guy she's marrying has... A ridiculous amount of money. (He's a great guy, she's marrying for him, not the money.)

I can't guarantee anything but. In theory I could make a new build with an almost unlimited budget should he grant that.

I should probably also look into a better monitor

Literally the 50 dollar Walmart monitor option

[dull garnet]

imagine all the frames with your new 4090

[glossy ravine]

Bro, I can run pong (1972) at 9999999 frames

Something Something run modded Minecraft that has so many shaders that it looks like real life.

[outer sand]

can you actually put machine oil on heatsink fan? not sure why h212 fan seems work differently compared to my pc case fan

I know the parts where you take off the sticker and put machine oil in, but the heatsink fan seems work differently, like when I try to spin it, it won't budge at all

while my pc case fan rotates seemlessly

[jaunty light]

Not that id recommend it but ive used generic machine oil on a few case fans before to quiet/revitalize the bearings

[outer sand]

Look at the difference.. or am I not understanding this correctly and GPU/Heatsink behave differently compared to PC Case Fan

from my understanding from these 3 clips, the GPU and Heat Sink Fan need the machine oil lubrication?

[paper tusk]

depends on if the spindle is designed to be lubricated or if it's a sealed bearing

most fans are sealed since easier to sell and less maintnance until it eats itself

[outer sand]

the heatsink fan seems sealed bearing :/

Is this a sealed bearing? Nvm I think it's not, lol

[paper tusk]

if the bearing is designed for maintnance it'll have access on the label side. edit for phrasing: as in remove the sticker, not disassemble the motor from the blades

[deep sapphire]

that isnt a bearing thats the coils for the motor

a vast majority of fans are sealed bearings

no reason to service them

[outer sand]

The difference is night and day..

maybe just me

[deep sapphire]

that fan is borked and needs to be replaced

[outer sand]

before I put machine oil, it can barely moved

[deep sapphire]

or maybe the sticker is off center

[hard drift]

they probably tore the sticker to get access

[outer sand]

yeah it was a mistake

but torn sticker is better than the fan in 2nd clip 🥲

[hard drift]

[potent arrow]

I'm suprised you just didn't go buy a new fan

[outer sand]

oh this one is the heatsink fan

[potent arrow]

You can stick another on it and be fine

[outer sand]

I bought 5 new pcs case fans yeah

[potent arrow]

Might have to jank it

But it'll work

[outer sand]

but it hasn't arrived yet

[potent arrow]

Currently wedged a noctua in my PSU rofl

Cut it out from the frame and shoved it in

[outer sand]

IN your PSU?

so like you opened the PSU and just chuck a bigger fan in it? 🤔

[potent arrow]

It's the same size

Well

Mostly

I had to Dremel most of it because it's sff

I soldered it to the old jumpers and called it a day

[modest moss]

DO NOT DO THE THINGS SARAH DOES

[deep sapphire]

hahahaha

[sharp star]

lol why did this channel disappear in the first place

[outer sand]

hmm weird, I've been here for a while while deep cleaning my PC ._.

[sharp star]

I feel like getting a 420mm CLC in case I upgrade to Zen 4 or Raptor Lake but I feel like it's incredibly overkill with a 5800X3D

[sly elk]

why are you disassembling fans o_O

[hard drift]

you won't need a 420, given how zen 4 works you'd still reach the high temps since it'd just see it as more headroom to boost

[sly elk]

tbh I never took a fan apart before like that

did it click back together? XD

i thought the bearings would get wrecked

[outer sand]

this one just happened to not sealed 😛

[potent arrow]

Unless you know what you are doing

[outer sand]

I never knew my heatsink fan is this stucked before 🤦‍♂️

It probably haven't done anything to cooldown my CPU for a while now

[sly elk]

heh

[outer sand]

so I have 1xM.2 PCIe Gen 3 x4 256GB SSD and 1x SATA 240gb SSD, which should I use for gaming, which one is for boot drive?

also just wondering, if the boot drive has too much space, can I make a partition from these 2 SSD to 100gb boot drive and 390gb gaming drive?

thanks

[sly elk]

it looks like an uglier cosmos

than the one that already existed

i liked these though

what's the difference?

new one has more coolermaster logos? XD

[outer sand]

hmm weird, why my CPU is 98 celcius

pretty sure I installed the stock CPU heatsink correctly ._.

[sharp star]

ew Cooler Master

[sharp star]

what did your paste application look like

[outer sand]

it has it's own stand, no longer need hard surface underneath it 😁

[outer sand]

the stock heatsink already have thermal paste applied to it

[sharp star]

oh then it's probably just the stock heatsink being crap

[outer sand]

this is strange

I only use gtx 1050

maybe I didn't apply it correctly zzzz

dammit CPU has been runing my life these past 2 weeks

so can't use stock cooler? zzz

My

Is the temperature in bios correct?

I was surprised cause the PC turned off on its own...

[sharp star]

I can't really tell but it may be dried up

[outer sand]

this is fresh off the box 🥲

[sharp star]

ouch

[outer sand]

I also got this error when I try to fresh install my windows 10

how do I install with UEFI?

[sly elk]

oh that's an interesting one

when you hit f12 to boot something

there should be a menu giving you both uefi and bios options

[outer sand]

yeah I don't remember, but now i'm too scared to turn it on cause the heat sink doesn't seem to be working

[sly elk]

when you had it plugged in, was the fan running?

the thermal paste looks more than enough to keep ti below 98c

[outer sand]

yep, I checked everything, all heatsink fan, intake fan and gpu fan were running

[sly elk]

assuming that the part with no paste on the cpu, and the part with paste on the heatsink, were lined up

where was the cpu heatsink's fan plugged in?

was it plugged into the cpu fan header on the motherboard?

and are you sure it was saying 98c and not 98f?

because 98c is really really high for a computer sitting on the bios screen

[outer sand]

CPU_Fan

[sly elk]

oh, good

another question

[outer sand]

well tbh I feel it from outside too, so must be correct, and the PC turned off on it's own

[sly elk]

is that thermal paste only from the heatsink?!

cuz that looks like 2 different kinds of paste

[outer sand]

yeah, the thermal paste was built in from the heat sink

I didn't put anything on the CPU itself

[sly elk]

wait

is that...

[outer sand]

It was tidily applied

[sly elk]

paper?

[outer sand]

wait

there was a paper?

on the stock heatsink?

[sly elk]

from an unboxing video i'd say no?

[outer sand]

like I have to remove that first before sticking it on the CPU?

yeah, It shouldn't be

[sly elk]

yea there's no paper

[outer sand]

I didn't see any paper

[sly elk]

sorry I was just curious because

the way that the part where you can see the ZEN showing throuhg lol

it's such a different shade of grey

[outer sand]

the instruction also didn't say anything about taking something off 🥲

[sly elk]

yea i doubt it needs anything taken off. in that video i saw, they pulled a plastic cover off (or it was sitting on one in the box)

[outer sand]

how can stock heatsink failed so hard, dam

[sly elk]

sooo

i don't think there was any kinda film or whatever

also if you feel hot air coming off the heatsink

it's doing its job

[outer sand]

no, from the case, lol maybe cause the fan isn't facing the exhaust, but facing side of the PC

[sly elk]

what i mean is

if the heatsink is getting hot, then the heatsink is installed correctly lol

but if it's 98c i wouldn't advise touching it

https://i.imgur.com/vgRsY4p.jpg

That's actually really hot. My 5600x with the stock cooler on a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite runs at 44C when idle and a steady 83C when under 100% load for 24 hours. Consider looking into dusting your machine, adding high powered fans (Noctua's NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM case fans are solid) and look into your case's airflow. Mesh front is optimal. Finally, your motherboard may also be playing a role in your temps but it would be much smaller than your fans and case's impact.

also worth noting that 37c is 98f

[outer sand]

it was on bios 🥲

yeah it was 90+ degrees

[sly elk]

ya know

I don't think your heatsink was making contact

now that I look at it

[outer sand]

and the PC turned off on it's own, Bios was updated to the last version

oh hmm, installation not correct?

[sly elk]

this is pristine

and the matching part of the cpu was clean

which makes me think it wasn't seating all the way down on the chip

you don't need to redo your paste, just try and install the heatsink again

[outer sand]

hmm interesting 🥲

ill reinstall ok

[sly elk]

https://youtu.be/omNtKUVIChg?t=289

it looks to me like

if you lay your case on its side so that your heatsink is facing up like that

then set the heatsink on the cpu

you should be able to tell if it's making contact without even screwing it down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBehzYG9dwI

that is so weird though.

[outer sand]

why only 50%?

or like 50% each side periodically x 8, so it's 100% on each side in total

[sly elk]

idk why they said 50% lol, I was just giving you some links for references

just make sure your cooler is seating all the way

[outer sand]

You are correct, that pristine thermal paste was a good spotting 🥹

Back to 32 celcius

[sly elk]

hurray!!

[outer sand]

I guess I freaked out when the heatsink made the cracking sound. It was probably the spring doing the works

[sly elk]

hey it's always good to be cautious!

[outer sand]

So I was too afraid making it too tight 🥲

[real edge]

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-kamui-pat-head-pat-gif-12018819

[outer sand]

Still got this error..

Does it mean this CPU has to use MBR?

[sly elk]

no

that is saying your flash stick is setup for uefi only

and your motherboard is in compatibility mode

what kinda board is it again?

[outer sand]

Hmm how do I boot using UEFI?

[outer sand]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-DS3H-rev-10-11-12-13#kf

[sly elk]

-takes a look at the manual-

[outer sand]

maybe I missed it cause I checked the manual from the beginning till end

[sly elk]

you can also try turning CSM off and set storage boot option control to UEFI only

[outer sand]

is it diferent manual ._.

[sly elk]

err wait

nvm that

leave CSM on

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_b550m-ds3h-ac_e_1301.pdf?v=fea89e8988c2f899ee67f661afc6ad23

[outer sand]

the paper manual doesn't have this zzzz

[sly elk]

fun

[outer sand]

yeah it's different from the paper manual

I guess this one wasn't printed 🥲

[sly elk]

X_X hate it when that happens

[outer sand]

my 6 years windows had so much shit, windows 10 original size is 30 gig, and mine was 60 gig++, and I didn't install anything on the boot drive 🤦‍♂️

[sly elk]

maybe it was just leftovers?

[outer sand]

yeah, a lot of leftovers installation settings in roaming appdata that I haven't cleared probably 🥲 , feels so good

I even changed the mydocuments default folder, video editing cache to my hard drive

😹

ty very much for the help so far

🙇‍♂️

[sly elk]

i'm happy to help ^_^ am sure the other people here are too 🙂

[bitter girder]

no

i mean sure yeah

[kindred brook]

question

Don't know if you guys can answer it

[hard drift]

?

[kindred brook]

My moms garage has washer and dryer hookups in the garage

but they can't access the garage

can we reroute the stuff

to the backyard

[jaunty light]

Extra long hose

[bitter girder]

hose