#technology-discussion

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real edge
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^

dull garnet
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most normal people won't even think about it when the pc is built also

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lol

real edge
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get the 3600mhz kit its only 3 bucks more

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the one on your list is 3200

outer sand
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ah ok, these 2?

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which one

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both 3600 😹

dull garnet
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which one do you think looks prettier

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would probs look for cl16 if you can

real edge
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price jumps to 120$ for cl16 it looks like

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from 90$

outer sand
dull garnet
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oh yeah don't bother then

outer sand
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is there anything else to check? 🤔

dull garnet
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bro please put that cpu cooler money into your video card

outer sand
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nani

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I thought 6700xt is enough

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it was 6700 before, lol

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it's already above the budget 🥲

real edge
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6700xt is enough

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speed is just telling you to get the gpu first and think about the cpu cooler later

outer sand
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for ssd, what brands are recommended nowadays?

real edge
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there is a crucial 1tb ssd for like 100$

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AUS

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will last you for a long time

outer sand
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eh 500gb isnt enough??

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cause mine is like 250 gb lol

real edge
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500gb will fill up fast if you use it regularly to install many games

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but if you do not install many things on it then 500gb is enough

outer sand
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ah yeah I don't play many games, just tekken 7, sf5 and xiv

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for now 250gb is enough for that it seems

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I guess I won't upgrade, nvm that then

real edge
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500gb is like 55$

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yeah

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4080 still 1400euro in my country

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prices cannot drop fast enough it seems

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hoping amd gpus break the competition for competitive prices

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:x

sharp star
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didn't people agree that the 4080 was a good product, just priced very wrong

real edge
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yeah

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im not getting it

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im just lamenting the price

outer sand
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beside flash the latest bios for the mobo, what message should I give for the ryzen and memory vendor?

dull garnet
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doesn't make sense to buy an ssd smaller than 500

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i went for 500 and have since added a dedicated 1tb sata ssd for games

outer sand
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I think my important files are still at 120 gb, still enough and for games 250gb

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drive c and d

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still with windows 10

real edge
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just when you get it all

outer sand
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alright

real edge
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activate the XMP/DOCP in the bios

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to make sure your ram runs at the advertised speeds

outer sand
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ah crap this vendor has like 20$ delivery fee zzz

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I think that's the listed price for this purpose

real edge
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even delivery fees are crazy in AUS

outer sand
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yeah, that's why I mentioned earlier that I only buy from the store close to my place haha

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but I haven't purchased bulk items like what I'm going to do now

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for a while

dull garnet
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ofc you can recycle any drives you have rn too

real edge
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don't forget the ram bios thing its important for ryzen

outer sand
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activate the XMP/DOCP and flash the latest Bios

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these 2 yeah?

real edge
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yes

void dove
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its important for intel and zen

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who would want their ram slower on any platform

real edge
dull garnet
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someone was trying to tell me it was bad to enable xmp and i was like okay... so for arguments sake i tried a probably irrelevant cpu bench (timespy) and with xmp off it only improved the score about 3%

umbral moss
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XMP tends to be bad because it picks wild voltage settings to set the profiles

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one of the XMP profiles on my board sets the vdimm to like 1.85V

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I can get the same stable frequency at 1.55V

outer sand
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oh are they both bad? 🥲

umbral moss
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it's more that XMP is fire and forget and it sets random things that you might not want changed

void dove
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its up to the vendor

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of the ram

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if they have shit profiles

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well, get better ram 😛

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its not setting "random things"

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lol

umbral moss
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you can get the same results with manual tuning and usually less vdimm

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so yes

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it does random things

void dove
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i dont think you understand the meaning of the word, random

umbral moss
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I don't think you understand the reason I'm saying it

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things that don't need to be changed get changed by the profiles

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yes, it's vendor set but no, it doesn't need to be changed

void dove
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also, do you Really expect the average person to actually tune ram manually?

umbral moss
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it's not that hard sad

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feeding 1.8+ vdimm is a great way to suicide your sticks

void dove
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you underestimate teh ability of most people

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when motherboards give them 20 settings, and they dont know what any of them mean

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and changing one causes the entire system to not boot, and they have to try again

umbral moss
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if you're buying a $700 board with XXXTREME OVERCLOCKAN settings

void dove
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it opens the doors for a Very frustrating experience

umbral moss
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you should know what the fuck you're doing

void dove
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how about, you dont suggest it to ppl who arne't doing that 😛

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also, i said your average person

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your average person, isn't buying a 700$ mobo

umbral moss
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my original statement was "make sure XMP doesn't set your vdimm to something stupid because it changes a bunch of settings"

umbral moss
sharp star
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return to cringy anime components

modest moss
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Damn this shit escalated after I went to bed

dull garnet
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wake up shue, chat popping off

modest moss
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Glad I wasn't here, it was already borderline too many cooks

hard drift
umbral moss
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pcpartpicker moved to amazon and said $669

hard drift
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ah, just use amds site then deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

umbral moss
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I don't have $570 either lmao

hard drift
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lmao rip

modest moss
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Sell your house

umbral moss
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may as well sad

hard drift
modest moss
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Sell house
Quit job
Dump gf
Buy amd cpu
Cry in a ditch

bitter girder
dull garnet
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get a credit card

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use cpu

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for years

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enabled pbo earlier lads

hard drift
dull garnet
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basic "enable" setting

hard drift
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that's fine for the most part 🙏

dull garnet
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seems to have added 700MHz to my all core clock

hard drift
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namazuconcern that's a pretty sizeable increase

dull garnet
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4.6GHz now

hard drift
dull garnet
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i bet it gets real toasty now

umbral moss
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when I part out a new box it's intended to last for 5-6 years, assuming I don't break it somehow

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like the time I broke the CPU water block and it leaked onto the board sad

hard drift
umbral moss
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I didn't even know it was leaking until my GPU started having a seizure, I opened the case and there was water in the PCIe slot

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rip board, rip GPU0

dull garnet
hard drift
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namazuconcern jesus

dull garnet
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no pbo is sub 60 lol

hard drift
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HMM i have pbo but i'm not running that hot

dull garnet
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okay its 4.45/4.5GHz under p95

hard drift
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pbo on and this is what i run at ASevil

dull garnet
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running prime95?

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:p

hard drift
umbral moss
dull garnet
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okay well obviously it isn't 85c idle lmao

hard drift
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harnessing the power of the sun

dull garnet
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that's more like it

hard drift
dull garnet
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has me thinking about a better cooler

hard drift
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i for sure need to get one pensivewobble

dull garnet
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what you running?

hard drift
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240 aio from corsair

dull garnet
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wtf

hard drift
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an old one, not the new line

dull garnet
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i'm running this guy

hard drift
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i'm waiting for ice giants new cooler deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

dull garnet
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eyeing that AK620 tho

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le poor mans noctua

hard drift
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🙏

deep sapphire
bitter girder
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True

modest moss
dull garnet
hard drift
jaunty light
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@tame fulcrum come to saudi arabia for anime town

modest moss
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@dull garnet Samsung S22 Ultra 128GB Mobile Phone 5G + 60GB O2 Data, £24pm £300 Upfront, + £300 Cashback £876 / £576 After CB

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that sounds like a great deal if I'd already be paying around 150 for my sim free contract, no?

dull garnet
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ew samsung

modest moss
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S22 Ultra for a little over £400 though

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howso?

hard drift
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rose gold 🤢

deep sapphire
modest moss
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yeah that's stupid

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annoys me when people use a period instead of a comma too

dull garnet
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that's some european shit

modest moss
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€8.600 like fuck off that's not a real number

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8,600

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Britain let the world down, needed to push on with the empire and take over everything so it could all be standardised

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already registered and set a reminder to load the stream

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waste of time of course

jaunty light
umbral moss
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the last thing I won was a demo from smooth-on for brush-on silicone

bitter girder
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Cba to go Tesco

dull garnet
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Dire

deep sapphire
hard drift
real edge
haughty fossil
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Hey all sorry but I'm having trouble with the Launcher, the login section won't load, ai have reset, restarted, restored, you name it but nothing. I also can access the molestation website so not sure if there is an issue somewhere?

late basalt
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I’d make sure you’re on mogstation’s website, not a molestation site shycarby

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But yes, give the 3rd party a launcher a try

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If that doesn’t work, @modest moss would probably have other ideas

haughty fossil
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Thx but I have tried the custom Launcher same happens the Launcher just times out and tells me to relaunch.

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My net is fine, playing GW2 as we speak but for reasons I can access login or mogstation period. And yea sorry my phone autocorrect MOG to mole?!?

hard drift
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Try clearing internet explorer cache and such for the launcher

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And for mogstation, try another browser to test

haughty fossil
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Ms edge also times out...

hard drift
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If it doesn’t work still it’s something on your side

haughty fossil
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It's odd because as I say I can connect to gw2 servers and even swtor connects without issue, it's just FF14 Launcher and mogstation. I tried and can access all the other SQUARE sites without issue. This is so messed up but thx

wide hill
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sounds like a routing issue

hard drift
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Yeah, the launcher is usually internet explorer causing problems

wide hill
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try using a vpn

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if you can't even connect to mogstation on the browser period, then yeah, something is wrong with the routing

hard drift
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Mine fixed itself for mogstation, mine used to do the same thing

haughty fossil
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I can connect via a VPN yea

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But now it wants to completely re-download the whole game?

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Times like this I hate the internet, but thanks all for the help. Guess I'm playing other MMO'S for now.

deep sapphire
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You didn’t move any game files did you

haughty fossil
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Hi nope, I did a system restore from 29/11/2022 but didn't do anything to the files before or after that.

inland mauve
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MFA was supposed to keep us safe and now this

umbral moss
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security is an illusion

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you're only as secure as someone's willingness to attack your defenses

inland mauve
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this shit is why I get to spend my evening poking holes in our MFA configuration and see if we fucked up somewhere too

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at least it requires you to steal someone's credentials first

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which isn't much of a comfort because people will toss their password at suspicious links like a lemming throwing itself off a cliff

potent arrow
umbral moss
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"oh we just took away user admin privileges"

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never mind that the attack was done on an unpatched windows 7 machine, likely using the printspool nightmare escalation exploit

potent arrow
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God fucking damit lol

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For my internship last year I spearheaded a big ass project to migrate everything to 10

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Holy fucking shit that was hard

jaunty light
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Just leave them on ME

modest moss
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fucking hell this new discord font is ugly

dull garnet
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its okay, different

modest moss
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it's basic bitch

potent arrow
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That's fine it's a messaging app

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Prioritize readability

bitter girder
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Oh it’s out?

modest moss
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ugly

jaunty light
sly elk
deep sapphire
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Purify yourself in the waters of lake Minnetonka

sly elk
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I've done the "we use subversion but if you want to use git, I've always wanted to try that out, so I'd be glad to entertain it!" dance like 3 times now at different companies x_X

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it was a total success every time

potent arrow
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people still use subversion?

sly elk
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but the part where 70% of the company has switched over

deep sapphire
sly elk
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but the 30% insists on using tortoise-git and complaining about git terminology

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and using terms like 'trunk' and 'checkout'

potent arrow
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-_-

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For me its the problem when like

deep sapphire
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Bonnet boot

potent arrow
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SAP is fucking running on a version of IE from 2003 rofl

sly elk
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then comes the inevitable "why can't I just use the git reset in tortoise git?" (was it git reset?)

potent arrow
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so you need a translation layer

sly elk
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then therte's that ms whore in IT who is like

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"ya'll should just use azure devops"

potent arrow
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or a program they need specifically to open the receptionist filecabinet that only runs on Win XP SP2

sly elk
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then you talk to a vendro and they're like

potent arrow
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(thats not a joke)

sly elk
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"we still use IBM clearcase!"

potent arrow
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That one ive heard lol

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fml

sly elk
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my current project is wonderful with this

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everyone uses git

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some people use bitbucket and some use gitlab

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(I personally love gitlab-ci and kinda cringe at the mention of jenkins)

jaunty light
jaunty light
sly elk
jaunty light
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sly elk
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interesting cop tower

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I'd love to know the context of that ad

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since iirc softbank is a phone company

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wait they rope off the crossing? 😮

jaunty light
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Organised celebration happening atm

sly elk
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cross in an orderly manner!

jaunty light
# sly elk

This ad more or less says.. "you will become happy" or something, in regards to plan pricing

odd sand
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I assume this means Nvidia drivers are whats fucking up Darktide for me?

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I've tried the latest two gameready drivers, so maybe I need to grab older ones

potent arrow
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That looks like a game bug

odd sand
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It's just very odd bc my Surface Studio Laptop with 3050ti and latest drivers doesn't crash at all while running on low. Same low settings on the desktop and same drivers and I can't even make it more than 5mins atm without crashing

jaunty light
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Chimney

modest moss
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withdraw cash

dull garnet
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buttcoin

modest moss
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do I want to pay for 2 internet connections for nearly a year

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still in contract for this current shit

sly elk
modest moss
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but a small company I've never heard of apparently offer gigabit near me now

sly elk
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Shue, your ISP doesn't let you out with an early termination fee?

modest moss
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nah standard here is make you pay the rest of your contract

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hmm actually it might be less

hot cove
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does anyone know how i can deal with this? i created an account a long time ago but never actually played

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it was on mac

modest moss
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make a new account is the best idea probably

deep sapphire
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@potent arrow

sly elk
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Neat

dull garnet
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installed xp the other day

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very comfy

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besides browser limitations

sly elk
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Somehow not surprised

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Is Snapchat even still relevant?

sly walrus
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no

modest moss
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windows classic pls

sly walrus
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ms-dos

modest moss
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peak windows efficiency

sly walrus
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coward

modest moss
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that skin with proper quicklaunch

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top of the mountain shit

sly elk
# modest moss

i want it with the proper grey not that weird putty grey

modest moss
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not bad, I prefer the slightly modern version

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with pink title bars obvs

sly elk
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that or vista with proper aero hehehe

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in 7 they nerfed a lot of the styling

rose hornet
void dove
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Hot Dog Stand!
Hot Dog Stand!
Hot Dog Stand!

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your retinas are now burnt

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your welcome

outer sand
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I keep seeing video of people wearing black glove when they are building pc

potent arrow
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You don't need too

outer sand
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Should I do the same thing?

potent arrow
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I wear em so I don't fingerprint client's machines

outer sand
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Ok. What should I do with my old PC parts? The i3 7th Gen one

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Old memories, GPU, CPU, power supplies

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Have no idea what should I do with it

real edge
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you need a power supply to feed your new system

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didn't you say you had a 650w one?

outer sand
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Ah no, my previous system used 500 that I bought 10 years go

real edge
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💀

outer sand
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Now I have H212 heatsink, 8 gig DDR4, i3 7th Gen without motherboard, gtx1050 and 500w power supplies unused 🥲

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Have no idea what should I do with it

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What do you guys usually do to your old parts?

real edge
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sell them

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on facebook marketplace/craigslist/whatever local thing you have

outer sand
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Ah right I'll try it Ty ty

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I don't have their box anymore 🥲

real edge
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do you have a power supply for your new system?

outer sand
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Yeah, the 650 one

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That's new 😹 . I planned to slowly upgrading starting with power supply

real edge
outer sand
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Then the CPU error happened

dull garnet
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All appearance improvements turned off

outer sand
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Upgrade to windows 11 or not?

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It's been out for a while, but I haven't tried it yet

real edge
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I would just keep windows 10 until it becomes a security issue or it stops being supported

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gives windows 11 enough time to solve all issues

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or most of

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personally

dull garnet
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You've got 2-3 more years of 10 but imo 11 is fine besides the odd issue, I've not had any

outer sand
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Ah alright I keep getting notifications to upgrade, I guess I'll just ignore it for now

real edge
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windows tells me that I do not have the specs for it

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which I find ridiculous

outer sand
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this thing

real edge
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I have a gaming pc lmao

outer sand
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ah yeah my work laptop is a surface

dull garnet
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Assuming your cpu is no more than 8th gen Intel equivalent

outer sand
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im just afraid my windows 10 programs won't work anymore

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thats why I haven't upgraded

dull garnet
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There's not really any real benefit to using it rn honestly

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Unless you have a newer intel cpu anyway

outer sand
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ok

real edge
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shrug ill just care about it in 5 years

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my win10 is pirated so secure boot would be more trouble than its worth

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especially when upgrading my hardware :x

dull garnet
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Not if you hwid exploit

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I think you can get around the tpm + secure boot stuff but I figured it'd use it anyway

dreamy chasm
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I hate nvidia

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this doesnt matter for anyone that does extensive research- since they can just steer clear of this card, but not everybody does

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shittier card than a 6600 for 100 dollars more, anyone?

real edge
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6600xt is like 200-250$ nowdays

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that is the funny part

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there is no point to the 3060 8gb

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its pointless

dreamy chasm
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It's just meant to be a cashgrab targeted at people who dont know better

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It's more of a 3050ti than an actual 3060

dull garnet
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Nvidia do be that way

umbral moss
umbral moss
glossy ravine
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Hey y'all.

I'm trying to remove my graphics card to temporarily upgrade, I've removed the screws and such but it won't come out?

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And I'm hesitant to just try to pull it out for fear of damaging it.

potent arrow
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Did you depress the pcie lever

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This locks the card in place

glossy ravine
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Am I supposed to pull or push?

potent arrow
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Should feel a chunky detent

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Push

glossy ravine
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o7

Ow. Trying to push it kinda hurts.

potent arrow
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Woops

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Thanks discord

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That's what this looks like

umbral moss
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yeah, should be like a ram dimm

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push down, card pops out

glossy ravine
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Arigato ❤️

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How much force do I need to put on this?

umbral moss
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if you unscrewed the whole PCI brace, it should just go down with a reasonable amount of effort

glossy ravine
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I have. The card is wiggling a bit.

umbral moss
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I don't have a dynamometer to measure the force needed but it's not feather light (since it's a structural element to hold the card in)

glossy ravine
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Okay. I heard a click/noise when I gave it a decent press.

umbral moss
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yeah, that should be it

glossy ravine
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How do I just. Pull?

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Rather not damage my PCI slot NervousSmile

umbral moss
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I mean, you need to put an insane amount of force on a slot to pull it off the board lmao

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also, it's just a piece of plastic that sits over the pins so even if it does you can just kinda shove it back on

glossy ravine
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So, pull hard?

umbral moss
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just rock it out of the slot

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the slot and clip are designed to hold the GPU tightly so you need to wiggle it out

glossy ravine
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Copy

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Do I have to remove these 2 big screw things?

dull garnet
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looks like

umbral moss
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you told me you already unscrewed the PCI braces

dull garnet
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you'd need to do both lol

glossy ravine
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Sorry!

potent arrow
glossy ravine
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"purely semantics"

umbral moss
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they really are

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although PCI-SIG does set the spec for pin depth and the connector geometry, so, uh...

modest moss
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ffs wife's pc won't turn on, no fans spin but there's a light on the mobo

potent arrow
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Oh boi

modest moss
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it's so old and shit I don't even want to try and fix it

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4570, 1050ti

dull garnet
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The shue I know wouldn't call that shit 🥲

modest moss
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great, can't short the pins to test whether it's just the power button

real edge
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I have an e-atx motherboard sitting in my house for haswell

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pay for the shipping and ill send it to you with my old haswell cpu included

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but

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e-atx is tough to fit in a case

potent arrow
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Smh never offered me an old haswell board

dull garnet
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hasswell

jaunty light
umbral moss
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sorry, I stole your luck

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I got a full refund on something I preordered months ago (including the non-refundable deposit) because they delayed shipment

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so I reclaimed $1200 in one shot pogianger

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just like real DF parties pogianger

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someone take hank's belts and shoelaces away

kind rune
# jaunty light

I put an electric toothpick in my phone's ear and it blocks ads?

modest moss
real edge
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👍 rynepat

potent arrow
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Shuueeee

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Can you do it support on my computer

modest moss
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bit of messing around recovering her firefox profile etc but it seems ok

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no, I'm not capable of sff stuff

potent arrow
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I don't know anything about computers so I need help

modest moss
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just buy an ipad

potent arrow
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It bluescreens everytime my monitor arm fails and slams the monitor into the pc

modest moss
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I think your problem is between chair and keyboard

potent arrow
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Mmmmmm

modest moss
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fix the arm and the loop

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ez

modest moss
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just go to bozja

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it's fast af

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ride that fate train

jaunty light
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Bosnia?

modest moss
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@hardy sparrow I just had cinnamon and raisin bagel, these warburtons ones are decent, and you don't even need to cut them, they just twist in half

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straight in the toaster, bit of butter

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banging

jaunty light
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Not even a cinnamon bun

modest moss
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I'm having a week off, I had those big tear and share ones three weeks running

dull garnet
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log out, never play ffxiv again. every game problem solved

modest moss
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trusts suck

jaunty light
modest moss
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weak

kind rune
modest moss
dull garnet
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pfft that's nothing /s

umbral moss
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I haven't played endwalker at all this year sad

dull garnet
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i subbed a month, did the second half of 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, island sanctuary and unsubbed meol

modest moss
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I wonder how far kyanche got by now, I bet he's still the lowest level tech regular

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@sly elk did you finish ARR yet?

umbral moss
#

I'm just never near my PC sad

dull garnet
#

my gf got the hw trial thing but wanted to join a fc so has paid a sub for the last 2-3 years while only just finishing arr

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the wasted money, i can't

modest moss
#

why don't you just unsub her account

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both of you

#

what

umbral moss
#

if there's something I've learned in the last two years, it's that you'd have a better chance of moving mount everest with the help of bigfoot and a unicorn than convincing your girlfriend to do anything she doesn't already want to do

modest moss
#

dude it'd be cheaper to buy the shit she likes from mogstation probably

umbral moss
#

where are you tapping the water temperature from?

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that should be the coolest water in the loop since it's already passed through the rad

#

my temp probe is somewhere near the middle of the radiator so it measures kind of an average, plus my radiator is mounted above my case so it gets some heat soak

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but the delta you want depends on the heat density and power load

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CPUs will just run hotter than GPUs no matter what, good old physics

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my CPU was hitting 80C in prime95 with AVX enabled, even with water on it

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but it only gets to like, 50-ish under normal use?

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my GPU gets to about 45C under sustained load, which is fairly close to the water temperature

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5-7 degrees delta

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yeah, in games that makes sense

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I don't know where your probe is measuring CPU/GPU temperatures

#

is that hot spot probe value?

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or regular die temp

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seems about right overall

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I also have less restriction for my pull fans because my rad is mounted externally

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also consider my GPU pulls way less power sad

kind rune
#

Is ur fps capped

#

Why's it so low with reshade

#

What's ur gpu

#

Weird

#

What is it when ur using a more regular reshade preset

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Which preset

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I was thinking one of the gshade ones

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🙄

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Nobody ever has what I have 😔

modest moss
#

me reading your posts

kind rune
#

How I do that

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It probably would just be about the same as mine anyway 🚶‍♂️ that's a lotta work

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Where's that at

modest moss
#

'thot catgirl'

kind rune
#

Idk gshade does it all

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Il find out when I get on

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I don't think I have a screenshot hold on

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Very orange

glossy ravine
#

After 3 years I have finally upgraded to a full copy of windows 10 pro, and now don't have to deal with that ridiculous watermark

dull garnet
#

pog

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but yeah i just used win 10 with a watermark for a handful of years too

odd sand
#

Could have used some old Win7 key and upgraded that way 🤔

dull garnet
#

never had a win7 key

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last legit windows i had was xp 😬

odd sand
#

That's when you stop by the IT department and look for decommissioned boxes in the corner with the Windows sticker on the side /s

dull garnet
#

well yeah

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i really didn't care though lol

hard drift
odd sand
#

I had a copy of 7 home I bought myself way back, but I think it was only $40 with academic discount or something. Since then I've been bumming keys from my friend's MSDN heh

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Other than my new laptop I actually paid to bump it up from 11 to 11 Pro bc I run VMs and use it for RDP for work sometimes

modern iris
#

putting windows 10 on my spare pc. built out of my old parts. zotac gtx 1060 6gb, 16 gb gskill ddr3 1600 mhz, fx 8350, thermaltake case, 3 case fans, 250gb ssd, wifi 6/bluetooth 5.0 card, dvd rw drive, asrock mobo, and some god knows what aresgame 500 watt bronze psu. along with a redragon mouse and keyboard

odd sand
modern iris
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im not sure yet. just kinda wanna mess around with it

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if my brother wasnt like all the way west coast id give it to him

odd sand
#

Just gave some of my old parts to niece and nephew. 9900K and a 1660 Super with 16gb ram, cheap $50 case, 128gb OCZ Vertex4 SSD, and a 1TB WD RE3 enterprise class HDD I had sitting in a bag on a shelf for a few years now

kind rune
#

Just looks like u made the floor a bit moist

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Pause

modern iris
#

i had linux mint installed on it, which i actually kinda like cuz its a lot like windows but i prefer 10

odd sand
#

Pop Linux is all the rage rite

kind rune
#

eh ionno

odd sand
#

Ironically enough, also just got them that redragon keyboard/mouse combo bc it was on sale for like $18 during black friday heh

kind rune
#

u gave her a 9900k

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and a 9 dollar mouse and 9 dollar keyboard

umbral moss
#

look at all that performance you threw away for bloom sad

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how do you even force that when the renderer doesn't know how to understand raytracing

kind rune
#

ok heres me in the same spot 🤠

umbral moss
#

those floors are polished?

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I thought they were rough concrete

kind rune
#

its raiing

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raining

odd sand
# kind rune and a 9 dollar mouse and 9 dollar keyboard

I was already in for like $150 buying the new case, fans, and RAM for it. Also they're 9 and 7yo and the keyboard their parents had them using atm was some 15yo dell with some letters rubbed off and somehow the B key was missing, so they put the scroll lock keycap in the spot even tho it doesnt match the tilt of that row lmao

umbral moss
#

you're under an archway playdead

kind rune
#

and i barely lose any fps with reshade so i think the preset im using is pretty good

odd sand
#

The kb/m wasn't part of the original plan, but as I said I saw that discount where it was regularly like $38 for the set or something and marked down to under $20 so I got it bc I felt sorry for them using that kb lol

kind rune
#

oh theyre little kids

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its their first pc? 🥺

odd sand
#

Basically. Their dad had my old old system, but he didn't really let them play on it much. I think we did Overcooked on it once or twice

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And in the last month or two, their mom had bought a mac mini for doing her masters and she put Parallels on it and let them play stuff like Spore

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And I babysit for them sometimes and they've used my PC a couple times.

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It's funny bc the oldest basically wasn't introduced to video games until like age 5 and had very limited playtime on them so his controller use is pretty awkward, but their youngest is 4 and watching him play minecraft on the tablet with the onscreen controls he's so natural with it I did a double-take

kind rune
#

i could not imagine going 5 years without playing any video games

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thats crazy to me

dull garnet
#

imagine all that you could achieve

modern iris
modern iris
#

thing i do like about linux is that its more secure than windows

odd sand
#

To be fair, Steamdeck runs on Linux. Proton is pretty decent these days

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And package managers usually "just work" these days on Linux

#

Certainly much better than the dumpster fire that is WinGet

potent arrow
#

Winget is a fucking joke lol

#

Yay and Pacman are millions of miles ahead

outer sand
potent arrow
#

Gaming on Linux is mostly a meme because of Novideo drivers

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Otherwise it's alright

odd sand
potent arrow
#

FF14 for example runs very well under proton

odd sand
# outer sand

Q-Flash is pretty slick. If not for me using the wrong thumb drive, I would have been up and running in minutes

outer sand
#

The online store can't flash the latest bios and activate xmp

odd sand
#

use a 32gb or smaller thumb drive, put the firmware binary with the correct name on it, plug it into the labeled USB port on the back of the motherboard, press the Qflash button on the board ... yellow light blinks for a few mins and shuts down. GTG

dull garnet
#

i tried it once and it found like 4 of my programs and then failed to update 3

odd sand
#

I was honestly shocked their first public beta had no signing. So predictably ppl were uploading malware to it

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No idea if/when they fixed that

#

I used it once simply for the novelty of MS finally getting on the package manager bandwagon and it was so bad I uninstalled immediately heh

kind rune
#

why does msi have one

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oh

dull garnet
#

does it install boobs

outer sand
#

Is there any different type of USB drive now??

dull garnet
#

i do like a nice msi file

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thank you 7zip installer

dull garnet
#

agreed

odd sand
#

So your best bet is to get one that is 32gb or smaller so its properly FAT32 formatted (They will come preformatted that way, but if you reformat them its fine too)

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So my 128gb said FAT32 in windows, but was actually a newer filesystem called exFAT

#

One $5 USB drive later, and I had solved my problem in 2mins haha

#

And that was only because I had a 13900K. If you have a supported CPU already, most vendors have a windows utility that will let you update your bios from there

umbral moss
sly elk
#

gonna do that tonight

odd sand
#

Coolguysdontlookatexplosions

modest moss
#

nice, keep at it

umbral moss
#

kyanche will never know the joy of seeing me, minfilia, shitposting in every cutscene in praetorium

sly elk
#

lol

dull garnet
#

i miss being afk in prae

odd sand
#

Such devastation...

outer sand
umbral moss
#

knew it

#

gigabyte QA department is the customer

outer sand
outer sand
odd sand
#

32gb or smaller, yes

umbral moss
#

every gigabyte product I've bought has been shoddy/defective in some way

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stuff they should have absolutely caught and engineered out

outer sand
#

Wot

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I thought they are the better one

odd sand
#

Guess I've just lucked out then bc I've gotten gigabyte for my last 4 mobos and several GPUs and it was all fine

umbral moss
#

I've tried a handful of gigabyte products going back to the nforce era and they've always managed to fuck up somehow

odd sand
#

Every mainboard maker has duds at some point, just have to read reviews

outer sand
#

This is just the mobo

umbral moss
#

my favorite was the secondary PCH chip they used for the ATA controller on the nforce board that shit itself, but in a really clever way

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it would work fine for about a week and then corrupt the file table on the drive and render it completely unusable pogianger

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and it was only the drives on the PCH chip

odd sand
#

My Z77, Z390, and Z690 boards all work well fwiw 🤷‍♀️

umbral moss
#

I mean, one point of data isn't a conclusion

#

people seem to have good results with gigabyte on the whole since they're still in business

dull garnet
#

i've had a lot of gigabyte and a lot has been kinda iffy

umbral moss
#

but that lazy "well, we didn't test it, so you have to do half our job for us" is classic gigabyte in my experience

dull garnet
#

lots of occurrences of power cycling

modest moss
#

never had a bad gigabyte mobo

#

wouldn't rush to buy a gigabyte gpu though

odd sand
#

That doesn't sound like a message from Gigabyte, that sounds like a message from Newegg or something.

outer sand
#

that's from the vendor yeah

odd sand
#

They're saying they don't power test and update boards

outer sand
#

should I just buy from local store and pay $20 more expensive then? 🤔

umbral moss
#

I could believe gigabyte not testing boards or rolling updated firmware

modest moss
#

it's definitely not normal to ask a retailer to sort your xmp unless it's a prebuilt

umbral moss
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

odd sand
#

Which I can understand, as that would be a lot of extra work if you ship a lot of boards, and could open themselves up to liability on DOAs since they opened the packaging

real edge
odd sand
#

AFAIK they usually don't turn on XMP bc its considered an overclock.

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A lot of SIs will still ship "gamer" systems without XMP enabled and make you do it

umbral moss
#

that way if it blows up it's on you

odd sand
#

The ppl out there delidding 7950s right now... playdead

umbral moss
#

that's pretty big brain

odd sand
#

Big Asspucker Energy wrenching it back and forth in the tool

sly elk
real edge
outer sand
#

since the vendor mention q-flash, i'm guessing it can? not sure

umbral moss
odd sand
#

Q-Flash Plus Update BIOS without Installing the CPU, Memory and GPU

#

I dunno, never done it myself. Maybe it doesn't cleanly take off the TIM if its softened up

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Or its possible it doesn't soften at all since it's basically soldered on there

#

And given they get up to 100C+ you wouldn't want the cap shifting around on top of the die

umbral moss
#

you already have the best thermal interface 🤔

odd sand
#

I meant that even TIM isn't meant to move around so I don't know if heating it would even do anything short of extreme temps

umbral moss
#

if it's paste it'll still get softer if you heat it

#

solder will be hard until it gets near the eutectic point, yeah

#

but solder also provides a proper thermal interface layer

#

6700XT is 45% faster than my titan sad

odd sand
#

If heating it was a good way, I assume ppl like Derbauer would recommend it. Ask them vivsmug

odd sand
#

That must be so weird when you get a role where they age you up like that

#

I feel like I would want to go to the store or something just to see the looks heh

umbral moss
#

like lea thompson from back to the future

odd sand
#

I assume part of it is they're assuming you stay fit and nominal amount of skincare

#

And no plastic surgery heh

outer sand
#

uh should I cancel the order or not? I really need the mobo, I didn't expect this to be complicated

umbral moss
#

nah, usually more aggressive wrinkles

#

they don't want people to be like "this is just the same actor but with grey hair"

outer sand
#

I'm afraid it won't be compatible with the other parts if I can't update the bios without the CPU

real edge
#

google

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if it has then you will be able to do it without a cpu

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by googling how to do it

odd sand
#

@outer sand Since it was lost in the conversation here, I checked it on Newegg and yes it has Qflash+

outer sand
#

according to google, but not sure about AU version

real edge
#

you can easily enable xmp yourself btw

#

through the bios

#

so dw about that

odd sand
#

On the back of the motherboard will be a USB port labeled BIOS. You plug the USB drive into there with the firmware on it labeled as "gigabyte.bin"

#

You then press that button and it will power on and start blinking yellow. It's done when the system shuts off again.

jaunty light
#

Yo mama a gigabyte motherboard

odd sand
#

Chances are the motherboard you receive will have the F14 bios already and be fine

#

Since 5000 series has been around for like 2 years now

#

Youtube has all of the videos you could possibly need to show how to do stuff

real edge
#

^

odd sand
#

Only difference with that video is the button isnt on the back like that, but on the motherboard itself as I showed above

outer sand
#

pretty sure I used to have quite few usb, but now somehow I can't find them

#

dam these small things

modest moss
#

noscript?

#

too often I'll load a new site and then give permissions in noscript, then I'll get access denied... so I load it in chrome if I know it's a legit site and it'll be fine

outer sand
#

oo you can check how much watt your PC is using? 🤔

#

I've been using external tools plugged to my electric outlet

#

to count every device I've plugged into that outlet

#

ic ic

#

I wonder what's my electric consumption will be with the new PC 🥹

umbral moss
#

and if you show up with a different user agent the site eats shit and doesn't know what to do

#

chrome is basically IE6 but worse since google has no incentive to ever fix or update it

outer sand
#

I'm starting to think, saving that $8 and importing the 6700XT from amazon US isn't worthed

#

it delays the shipping to 26th of Dec

#

🥲

#

I should just use the local store next to place where I live

#

is there any brand of GPU I should avoid?

#

I'm glad the money hasn't been drawn and the item hasn't been sent yet

#

how about these 2? any difference?

outer sand
#

yeah, the pcpartpicker directed me to the amazon au, but importing the item from the US, just to save that $8

#

I just don't think it's worthed anymore, I rather pay the $8

modest moss
#

that's not smart, buy locally, at least in AU so you have rights and easy returns

outer sand
#

yeah I cancelled the order, those 2 are from local store

modest moss
#

if it arrives broken you'd have to ship it back to america at your expense

outer sand
#

yep

modest moss
#

sapphire used to be highly rated for amd gpus, idk about now

#

@hard drift @dull garnet sapphire amd gpus still decent?

#

the asus should be fine too

outer sand
#

I thought it's in Australia cause It's free shipping, maybe because I bought it on Black Friday

#

after I checked again just now, apparently the product is from US? I'm not sure how it works and how it can be free shipping from US

#

All i've been seeing if It has free shipping and the product is cheaper than average price, the store usually located close to where I live

#

but not in this case, weird

#

the first one is the one I ordered, It was only 3 pcs available

#

before I cancelled my order, It was out of stock

outer sand
#

oh so both asus and sapphire are good?

dull garnet
#

is there such a thing as bad gpus?

#

besides evga ofc

outer sand
#

ok ty ty

#

first time buying parts online, rather nerve wrecking 🥲

real edge
dull garnet
#

sapphire appears to be about 35mm shorter

#

worth considering. you could look up reviews of each card to see temps and boost clock of each or just buy blind

real edge
#

defo worth checking reviews

#

might as well get that 1% extra performance if both cost the same

#

etc

outer sand
#

I remember someone posting benchmark performance for FFXIV, where is that website from

#

when I was asking question here..

#

isn't it always different for each game?

dull garnet
#

i don't think many places would bench cards of the same chip

outer sand
#

or is it a different type of performance

dull garnet
#

unless they're fancy ones

real edge
outer sand
#

is this the metric I should be seeing?

#

oh ok

dull garnet
#

boost clocks are about the same between them

#

the asus will clock itself up a whole 20MHz in OC mode

#

lmao

wide hill
#

funny that gamersnexus is using ffxiv as a benchmark

outer sand
#

there's no website that will tell me how much FPS I'm getting from the games I'm choosing yeah?

#

I need to purchase the GPU and test it myself or?..

dull garnet
#

that's the thing really

#

so many combinations of video card and cpu that you won't really know

#

this is why people use the best CPU possible usually to give you a baseline ideal of performance of the video card only

#

you may find someone running some benches on youtube if you're lucky though

outer sand
#

but overall the price of GPU has back to normal right? not inflated like before cause of scalpers and Bitcoin mining spree?

#

so it's particularly safe to buy now

#

If it isn't safe yet, maybe I'll just use GTX1050 for now, and wait till It fell further

dull garnet
#

I think the market has shifted in addition to the bitcoin stuff tbh. a 6700 XT is a pretty solid buy though. wouldn't expect better cards at a similar price point any time soon

#

friend just picked one up for his price/performance "budget" build

outer sand
#

yeah, i'm just thinking if my fps problem was because I was using i3 7100 and only had 8 gig of memory 🥲

#

don't want to overspent, and get like 150 fps for expensive watt usage

#

but if I set my standard on XIV, then SF6 won't get me 60 fps, I'll regret 🤦‍♂️

modest moss
#

you can easily build with the new cpu/ram/mobo/psu and existing 1050 and then upgrade the gpu later

#

it won't be shit with a 1050, just not great

sly elk
#

someone brought up windows xp last night

modest moss
#

you might get 60fps on medium settings at 1080p

wide hill
#

just get the latest 4090 and you will maybe not have to upgrade any more in your life

dull garnet
outer sand
#

oh hmm

wide hill
#

yeah, i limit ffxiv to 60fps so my gpu doesn't go 100%

#

and then you hear WHROOOOM

sly elk
#

hahhaa

#

same though

#

what is it with ffxiv that makes my gpu go vroom vroom

bitter girder
#

wmmmmmmmmmm

sly elk
#

it's a like 10 year old game isn't it?

modest moss
#

LEWIS

bitter girder
#

hello

modest moss
#

they had no rhubarb pies

#

massive sadness

bitter girder
#

god damn it

modest moss
#

wife bought apple instead

bitter girder
#

used to love apple pies

modest moss
#

still decent for 1.75 but eh not rhubarb

bitter girder
#

had a bad one tho when i was younger and kept throwing up so i dont like em anymore

#

too sweet anyway

modest moss
#

and those cinnamon and raisin bagels don't need a knife

#

fucking twist in half

dull garnet
#

mcdonald apple pie doe

bitter girder
#

mcdonalds apple pie with a pain mcflurry

#

sex

modest moss
bitter girder
#

plain*

dull garnet
#

what is "plain", cadbury choc?

sly elk
#

isn't a plain mcflurry just a plain sundae? or a cone in a cup without the cone?

#

also

bitter girder
#

dunno

sly elk
#

the fried apple pie is the best pie, sadly they don't sell them here

modest moss
#

we don't get cones in mcdonalds

#

just a cup

bitter girder
#

cup

dull garnet
#

behold

bitter girder
#

egg

#

eat egg emote

sly elk
#

last time I ordered mcdonalds pies a couple days ago, they had: apple, strawberry & cream, pumpkin & cream, HOLIDAY

dull garnet
modest moss
#

🥚

dull garnet
#

do you remember the mcchicken premiere

#

thinking about that recently

bitter girder
#

i remember the video of that guy fucking the mcchicken

modest moss
#

lads do we get festive pies here

bitter girder
#

i wanna try the mcrib

sly elk
bitter girder
#

that top one

#

mmm

dull garnet
#

holy fuck no wonder americans are so fat

bitter girder
#

i wish mcdonalds sold cinnamon treats

#

🤤

sly elk
dull garnet
#

FOUR DOLLARS

#

bruh

bitter girder
#

its like 9 quid here isnt it

sly elk
bitter girder
#

OMG

dull garnet
bitter girder
modest moss
#

that thing will be huge though, 630 cals

modest moss
#

yooo we get stiffed here

#

#tech meetup at kyanche's local mdconalds

bitter girder
#

can i come

modest moss
#

Ice covering airfares and accommodation

sly elk
#

They also have a bunch of types of coffee

bitter girder
#

forgot frappes existed

#

such a basic bitch thing but i like em

dull garnet
#

i don't drink coffee

sly elk
#

£9 for a mcflurry though MiqoteDepressed

bitter girder
#

it was a joke

sly elk
#

oh ok lol

dull garnet
#

$4 is like £3.25

#

or about double what I'd pay

sly elk
#

i've heard before that maccas in australia has like 3 weeks paid vacation and pays like $22 an hour

dull garnet
#

although that is via the app so that varies i think depending on delivery

sly elk
#

so I'd kinda understand higher prices to some degree

#

out here they pay $18 and there's no paid time off lol

#

i think the state requires they get 3 paid sick days?

outer sand
#

between these 2, the benchmark video here however doesn't use the 2 gpu I'm choosing 🥲

#

how do I do the research for these 2 GPU? like the difference

sly elk
#

oh hah

outer sand
#

price are the same

sly elk
#

I'd take the sapphire unless it has a bad rep specifically

dull garnet
#

there are so many models

#

just pick one

#

you can't lose

sly elk
#

but check the reviews from people on amazon or whatever

dull garnet
#

both are gonna be good

sly elk
#

a common issue with asus+amd is they just reuse the heatsinks that were designed for nvidia models

#

sapphire doesn't make nvidia gpus so this isn't a problem with them

#

I am not sure they still do that

#

the asus rx580, vega 56/64, and I think the 5xxx had a bad rep for this sorta thing

dull garnet
#

sapphire being purebred AMD is a pretty good reason tbh

sly elk
#

yea but ultimately they both have 3 year warranties, and I wouldn't pay extra for it lol

#

like maybe $20

outer sand
#

same price both

sly elk
#

if I liked the sapphire enough maybe $50 hahahaha

#

nice

outer sand
#

from the same store, right next to place where I live, lol

sly elk
#

yea the other thing imho is ya gotta pick what ya like xD

outer sand
#

I can just pick up 😹

sly elk
#

i love the nitro design

#

but i'm a sucker for rgb

dull garnet
#

the pulse is more my speed :p

sly elk
#

fair XD

outer sand
#

looks easy to clean, not sure why mine seems harder 🥲

#

hopefully using micro atx now, It will provide more breathing space

sly elk
#

i imagine

dull garnet
#

260mm shouldn't be an issue

outer sand
#

people here told me as long as it's an atx case, it will fit

dull garnet
#

it isn't a long card

sly elk
#

amd cars are reasonably sized lol

dull garnet
#

the asus is an extra 3cm

sly elk
#

oh and i should have said, i think the pulse looks fantastic too lol

outer sand
#

if my pc is that flashy, i swear my cousin will attempt to touch it cause how good looking it is, I'll choose sleeper build for now

#

to attract no attention from kids 🥲

dull garnet
#

stelf

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I'm the same, this is my pc on

bitter girder
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Good

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I like it

dull garnet
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Thank you Lewis ❤️

bitter girder
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No hard drive usage led?

dull garnet
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There is but it's super subtle on this case

bitter girder
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Ahahaha not really a problem

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Only time I’ve ever needed to use that led is to decide where the computer has frozen

dull garnet
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Yeah, 20 years ago

bitter girder
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Ahahahahah

dull garnet
outer sand
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hmm so basically the RGB can be turned on without power supply connection?

dull garnet
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Can only really see it head on

bitter girder
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I hate it rip that cable out

dull garnet
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basically no glow

bitter girder
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Oh can you only really see it at an angle

dull garnet
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only face on

bitter girder
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Nice good design

bitter girder
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Earth bug

outer sand
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are the lights disconnected from the PC and have outside switch where you can turn on/off?

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or like, you have to turn on the PC to be able to turn on the light

dull garnet
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oh I just don't have RGB

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lol

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conscious decision

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motherboard had some that i couldn't turn off in bios so i desoldered them

hard drift
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🙏 that is the way

dull garnet
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look at my beautiful video card

potent arrow
dull garnet
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best i can do is leaving a little flux residue

outer sand
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considering how providing lighting to see inside my PC is difficult, I might consider installing this RGBTQ LED, but I don't want it to be dependent on the power supply to switch it on..

modest moss
outer sand
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Is it possible?

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like If I want to clean it, I just turn it on

dull garnet
modest moss
modest moss
outer sand
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yeah I don't have one, I've been using my camping LED lantern like a caveman 🥲

dull garnet
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that sounds kinda dumb ngl. you could probably rig up some jank alt 12v power supply to do that but i just wouldn't

dull garnet
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my card paid for itself with 2 months of mining eth too deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

umbral moss
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by the time I have all my money organized to buy a GPU the 5090 will be out anyway pogianger

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5x titan performance pogianger

dull garnet
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lol

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you'll have the performance but lose the cool name

sly elk
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someone using AI to fuse cars together

hard drift
jaunty light
dull garnet
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its a multipla + a testarossa

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lol

jaunty light
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I swear theres a car that looks just like that

dull garnet
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nop

jaunty light
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Like obviously theres the nissan cube

bitter girder
sly elk
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yea that's a fiat multipla

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what prompted that thread was their post of a ferrari mixed with mustang

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and dare I say it

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... I like it

bitter girder
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That looks sick