technology-discussion

[royal forge]

also, the inno 3D 3090 comes with a flimsy bracket that's like

[dull garnet]

for occasional drive backups i use https://freefilesync.org/

[royal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-i-got-this-please-stop-train-tobey-maguire-gif-17203784

ooo

[dull garnet]

have an internal 4tb wd red and one i keep in a bay

[royal forge]

I'm trying to convince my family to go for a PEX server at home

maybe some option to remote uhhh

download

some shows for em

if they're like, looking for show, i can get it for em

but im not sure if it's doable

but im going offtopic

i need to build the PC first before I consider the next step for the M.2 or SATA SSD

i was worried putting the nvme between the mobo and the GPU would kill the airflow

[dull garnet]

that is doable

[dull garnet]

cooling really isn't that important for an ssd

[bitter girder]

Ughhh

[royal forge]

oh..

[dull garnet]

if it were an issue it wouldn't be designed that way

[dull garnet]

give lewis his macbook back!

[sharp star]

RGB is very important for SSDs

[hard drift]

rgb is very important for the trash

[dull garnet]

there are actually rgb ssds lol

whyyy

[paper tusk]

to make them thermal throttle faster

I mean umm

[sharp star]

if it’s red then that means it’s going fast

[royal forge]

das true

[bitter girder]

Apparently it’s still in transit I don’t think I’m gonna be able to collect it tomorrow

[royal forge]

if it's purple, it's silent

if it's blue, it's good temps

[dull garnet]

how'd you fuck the hdmi anyway

drop it?

[hard drift]

got frosting in the hdmi port

[dull garnet]

I returned that Dell I bought, condition was kinda bad. Felt like I had been ripped. Kinda want that 2015 MacBook

[hard drift]

that cinnamon bun did them dirty

[dull garnet]

<1KG

[bitter girder]

Nah so I just used it as an argument to see if they’d rush up the progress I thought it was loose but according to them it’s fine, must be the HDMI cable I use

To be fair I didn’t actually test that myself

I just thought mine was fine

[dull garnet]

lewis that's disgonestttt!!!111111

[hard drift]

[bitter girder]

They’ve sorted the keyboard out though which is cool

I would have just bought replacement keys but one of the keys was sticking and still have no clue why it did

[hard drift]

replacement keys for apple keyboards are ass

[dull garnet]

frosting

[bitter girder]

You know what

[hard drift]

i told you

[bitter girder]

It probably was something like that

Probably ham or something

[hard drift]

STOP EATING AT YOUR PC

[bitter girder]

JAM

[dull garnet]

you should see my kb bidori

[hard drift]

😐

[dull garnet]

there's a full meal in here

[hard drift]

WTF

[bitter girder]

You should see my keyboard

[hard drift]

this is why you can't be trusted with the mac and why they should hold onto it longer

[hard drift]

msi keyboard 🤢

[royal forge]

dont make me whip out my logitech membrane

[bitter girder]

The font choice is so weird

[dull garnet]

*cheapest kb i could find with cherry switches

[royal forge]

and yes, it's very.. ?alienware?

well

gamer-y

[dull garnet]

i don't like it at all but for £50 it was an alright deal

[bitter girder]

50 quid

Can’t complain then

[royal forge]

50 quidorinos

you can have 10 rounds of maccas

i think?

[bitter girder]

I hate buying cheap stuff because if it’s cheap and does what you need you literally cannot complain

[dull garnet]

there's cheap and then there's reasonable quality

[royal forge]

look into TecWare keyboards

[dull garnet]

gf's kb is cheap

[royal forge]

not cherrys

but it's AITE

[bitter girder]

Ight

[dull garnet]

off brand mx blues, per row rainbow lights

[bitter girder]

NOOO

WORST

[dull garnet]

like one row is red

[royal forge]

just build ur own 4head

[dull garnet]

one orange

etc

[hard drift]

[dull garnet]

i still mourn killing my filco majestouch

[bitter girder]

I crave a pot noodle for some reason

[bitter girder]

I’m glad you took a photo

[royal forge]

ewww

glass table

[bitter girder]

So you could one day show@me this

[royal forge]

fuckin heathen

[dull garnet]

this was

11 years ago

[hard drift]

WTF IS THAT PHOTO

[dull garnet]

[royal forge]

still

glass table havin ass

[bitter girder]

Best 11 years you’ve waited

To show me this

[dull garnet]

i accidentally flipped my ramen cup

lmao

[bitter girder]

I appreciate that you saved it

[dull garnet]

npnp

that kb kept on truckin in until about 2015

think the controller is dead

[bitter girder]

I was 11 when that tragic event happened

[royal forge]

damn

i was..

oh god i dont want to know

[dull garnet]

£125 in 2011

before gaming brands cost reduced mech kbs by mass producing em

there was some chinese crap i was looking at buying to replace this msi but its been a hot minute

womier k87

its hideous, glad i held off

[umbral moss]

I didn't get a chance to play with my epomaker last night

but it comes with a key puller and switch lube kit

[bitter girder]

Lets gooo

[dull garnet]

kbs as a hobby is kinda cringe now tho

omg the thock xdd

my keeb!

[umbral moss]

I just want a keyboard that has responsive switches and doesn't sound like a 1985 hard drive spinning up

[dull garnet]

sovl

[royal forge]

Uhhh guys

SLIGHT emergency

When you buy a cooler

It SHOULD come with the mounting bracket

Right?

Like uh

It should come with it, right?

I ordered the AK620. So it comes with a mounting brackets?

[dull garnet]

yes

[real edge]

^

absolutely

[royal forge]

Ok.

I was worried it'd show up just the cooler or smthn

[real edge]

[royal forge]

And i was like "oh shit im defo pickin up the coolermaster then"

[dull garnet]

their product wouldn't be very effective without mounting hardware

[royal forge]

Ye. I was worried it was like

"Sold seperately"

[modest moss]

If you are using an older cooler on a brand new socket sometimes you need to get them to send a bracket

[dull garnet]

i bought a used cooler because i'm cash money like that

cryorig sent me an am4 bracket gratis. based

[umbral moss]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/21/23471064/lg-oled-gaming-monitor-27-inch-qhd-1440p-price-features

poggggg

1440/240 OLED

[hard drift]

only costs 1k vs the ultrawide of 1.1k

[umbral moss]

I mean, you're getting 240 Hz so you're paying for those extra frames

although no hardware g-sync

[hard drift]

good, hardware gsync is ass

[umbral moss]

I mean, for $1000 it only comes with fast refresh rates

[hard drift]

the gains from going to 240 vs 144 aren't worth it to me 🙏 especially not for that price premium

[umbral moss]

240 native without gsync if you play overwatch on a 4090

fast

[hard drift]

having no gsync is better though, i don't want to have to send my monitor back to flash the damn firmware

[umbral moss]

🤔

I've never touched the firmware on my XB270

[hard drift]

not all monitors need it but it's a nice to have incase they push out fixes for issues

[umbral moss]

fixed an issue where the monitor occasionally failed to display a pixel

[glossy timber]

This is why I don't beta test products

Smh

[hard drift]

Some issues aren’t known until later

[odd sand]

Got my new desk mat

I have the G923 or something I believe. It's nice even if I don't use it enough to really justify it lol

Need a better table to put it on. My computer desk has a beveled edge, so the clamp doesn't work properly on it.

The good thing is it doesn't really get obsolete quickly, seeing as it is USB and PC compatible

[potent arrow]

Bro don't

Nobody ik got wheel to work in Forza horizon

Look it up, it's been an issue for years

It's impossible to play

You just slide everywhere

[dull garnet]

Bro just buy things :)

[glossy timber]

Yeah you're not wrong I've just found with the recent QC standards a lot of issues should have been caught before launch and instead get caught a few weeks after, but yeah sometimes shit gets found years later that can't be helped

[potent arrow]

https://forums.forza.net/t/im-struggling-to-keep-cars-from-sliding/534879
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/qn820f/people_who_play_forza_with_wheelis_the_horizon_5/
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/qmp1w8/fh5_racing_wheel_impressions_thread_whats_your/
@tame fulcrum

Just some of the suffering

[modest moss]

@potent arrow have you forgotten who you're talking to?

his whole MO is ignore advice, buy expensive shit, moan about it later

[hard drift]

too true

[potent arrow]

Tbf that's like 90% of people who have money here

[modest moss]

sadly accurate

[potent arrow]

[hard drift]

Ice… why would you even have considered that smh

Not that smh

[dull garnet]

Alien vs Predator 2

[hard drift]

The moan @tame fulcrum smh

So degenerate it doesn’t even phase him 😭

[potent arrow]

Breeeeaakie

[kindred brook]

Amd price cut announced!

[hard drift]

I already posted it 😭

[kindred brook]

Oh

X. X

[hard drift]

Only on newegg, amd just finally did it on their site today

[kindred brook]

Lol

[odd sand]

On their CPUs?

Makes sense since I heard sales of the higher SKUs were pretty weak.

[hard drift]

All of the 7000 skus yeah

Plus non x/x3d likely coming soon

[odd sand]

Too funny. Where are all the AMD bandwagoners now when they didn't want to hear that things go in cycles

[hard drift]

?

[odd sand]

Although in this case it's not that AMD has been outclassed in performance again, just they got too greedy with the pricing.

[hard drift]

True

[odd sand]

There was the general sentiment in the computing enthusiast spheres that AMD was "on top" and now gonna crush Intel from here on out etc.

[hard drift]

Lmao

Nah, they will just keep trading blows as they should

We need amd to actually win for gpus though

[odd sand]

And I was like 🤦‍♀️ what about AMD from 2012-2019? heh

[hard drift]

Or intel for the mater

[hard drift]

bulldozer

I still rocked that cpu until 3000 series

And now I’m rocking my 3000 series until x3d or 8000/14th gen

[bitter girder]

Locked out my own house

Had to piss in the garden

[paper tusk]

[odd sand]

🙏

Those AMD CPUs had legendarily poor single threaded perf

[umbral moss]

member when the xbone had the horrible mobile derivative of that generation?

also, price drops for the 7000 CPUs? does that mean the boards are getting a drop too? 🙏

[odd sand]

I remember WoW benchmarks for those vs like 3rd or 4th gen intel and the Intel was 100fps and the AMD were 60fps...

[hard drift]

True

[paper tusk]

can only hope so. looked up b650 prices on micro center and there's not that much difference (although much less choice too)

b650e v x670 might as well cost exactly the same

(270 ish usd)

[umbral moss]

I kind of need the extra USB ports for x670

but it's hard to find x670 in a smaller board size

https://tenor.com/view/ハテナ-何故-どうして-question-mark-why-gif-15782430

[paper tusk]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/652934/asus-x670e-i-rog-strix-gaming-wifi-amd-am5-mini-itx-motherboard cheaper to just get a matx case. doesn't help if really insist on a compact build

[umbral moss]

just put it in a pizza box

I really just want to put the PC in something small and portable

sure you can

water cooled

yeah, don't air cool lmao

I bet you could fit it in a pizza box with a riser and a brace so you don't crush the card picking it up

[odd sand]

This reminds me of how large camera lenses are the tripod mount instead of the body

[umbral moss]

also consider a pizza box is fairly large in the X-Y plane

so you can do a lot of fuckery in that volume

[paper tusk]

or destroy an old mac https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Power_Macintosh_6100-60AV_-_front.jpg

[odd sand]

Those were the shit at the time. Well... I guess the 8100 was

[paper tusk]

the pizza box ones haven't aged as well

[odd sand]

You've just described 1U rack mounts /s

[paper tusk]

at least not the plastics

mine hasn't broken. yet

[odd sand]

All plastic from the 80s and 90s yellows like that. Although there is a bath you can soak them in for like 24-48hrs that will get them looking like new again

[paper tusk]

I mean the tabs that hold the shell to the other half get brittle and break

[odd sand]

Ah.

[paper tusk]

that kind of broken

[odd sand]

Yeah it was one giant cover

[bitter girder]

@dull garnet I keep getting recommended shit like this

https://youtu.be/uY8kf3Xuu1E

[dull garnet]

Bro that top comment

[bitter girder]

It is real

[odd sand]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-pc-boom-has-gone-bust-and-we-are-about-to-see-the-results-ahead-of-black-friday-11668972434

[umbral moss]

good

back to cheap PC parts prices

[odd sand]

That's why I got a Z690 instead of Z790 board. Didn't want to pay out the ass

[umbral moss]

I'm just looking forward to prices going back to normal

no more $800 boards and $1700 GPUs

[odd sand]

Yeah. There's even a USB-C port on the back

Oh don't worry, there are still both of those, but hopefully they also release more reasonable ones as well

Bc even the lower end boards were over $200 USD

[umbral moss]

I mean, if people aren't buying them they'll come down

the real market will only bear $1000-ish for an ultra high end product

[odd sand]

More doubtful on that part since a lot of ppl seem to still be fine with paying out the ass for them

1660 Super was $230

[boreal surge]

eats popcorn to finally consider getting a pc seriously

[odd sand]

Used card market has gotten fairly decent now

IMHO get like a 12100F with a 600 series board for like $250. Recycle your existing DDR4 even and you can upgrade the GPU and ram when possible

Then you can always upgrade the CPU later

My setup is working fine it seems. Just need to try overclocking the ram at some point

Yes

Idle is 39C apparently

[bitter girder]

My MacBook is finally in my “local” store

“Local”

[odd sand]

I'm surprised Apple maintains their retail stores at all. MS had theirs for like 10 years but they only have like 3 flagships left

[bitter girder]

Sending it to yours then

I’ll be over tomorrow

[odd sand]

I suppose they paid Best Buy for their store-in-a-store model

[bitter girder]

Show off

Not like I live in the middle of nowhere or anything

[odd sand]

Well yeah you're in Vancouver. You need to make 100k a year just to walk down the street

Unsurprisingly they have like 7 of them in San jose/SanFran

They have a location right at their HQ on Infinite Loop (cool name for a road heh) in Cupertino. Should have visited there once when I lived in the general area. Probably a neat store

[dull garnet]

anywhere that isn't London

[bitter girder]

True

[dull garnet]

where you at roughly btw

pls doxx yourself :D

[bitter girder]

South wales

[dull garnet]

nice

[bitter girder]

Bout an hour and a half from Cardiff

[dull garnet]

never been to :flag_wales:

🇬🇧 i hate that discord only has a GB flag

[sly walrus]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-beer-drinks-drunk-go-england-gif-12126362

[modest moss]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

seems like a skill issue speedy

[sly walrus]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[odd sand]

🐳

[dull garnet]

lol wait fr

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

must have added them since the last world cup

[odd sand]

I need to fight the urge to just put the glass back on my case and say good nuff now that its running lol

Should really find my zipties and actually properly route stuff

[dull garnet]

if windows is running then it is good enough

[odd sand]

I am sore and le tired still from messing with it for 2 days. Crouching down to adjust stuff or even getting on my back to reach a good angle bc I don't have a desk at a good height to work on it

Also I need to build out the 2nd case for giving to my nephew

[dull garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nI0AI8k8cU ayy, ARC challenge

[glossy ravine]

Good thing I asked the internet before I blindly bought my PSU

I was going to get a 650W.

The most the build will pull according to P3 is just south of 340W

[dull garnet]

1. psu calculators are stupid
2. overhead isn't a bad thing
3. lower wattage power supplies tend to be lesser quality

[glossy ravine]

Corsair Gold Rated?

[dull garnet]

if it was the 650 you were looking at then yeah that's fine. i was referring to lower, besides edge cases like sfx

[bitter girder]

Me without my MacBook

[dull garnet]

me with a gaemin pc, a tablet, 40 games consoles

[odd sand]

What specs? If power draw really is max of 340 then 650W gold is plenty

Really depends on what the average and max draw is for the CPU and GPU. The rest is only a few dozen watts

[glossy ravine]

Ryzen 5 5600x and a Radeon RX 6600

[modest moss]

650w sounds about right

[odd sand]

Some quick googling says 140w for the CPU and 160w for the GPU which with fans and SSD etc yeah 340W sounds spot on

[glossy ravine]

Because this build is coming out of my pocket and I rather save a few dollars if I can.

[odd sand]

So yes having the max it could be being about 50% of max is good, probably even overkill

[glossy ravine]

[odd sand]

The price diff between a 500w or 650w psu is probably negligible, but above 650 it can start getting more expensive so

While having more overhead can be nice, if its a ton of unnecessary overhead, you're just paying more for no reason.

[glossy ravine]

"Corsair RMX Series (2021), RM550x, 550 Watt, Gold, Fully Modular Power Supply"

Is 70.

650w is 80,

750w is 100.

[odd sand]

Same thing with efficiency: If you're paying double to get a titanium rated one, you may not pay off the power savings for years if at all

[modest moss]

you don't necessarily need an rmx gold for that build though

[odd sand]

550W would be fine too, but if you ever want to upgrade you would almost certainly need to replace it then

[modest moss]

where are you shopping?

[odd sand]

I admit fully modular is a nice perk worth the extra 20 bucks IMHO

Always makes a mess trying to stuff away the wad of unused cables for non-modular

[dull garnet]

a power supply is something you can use for like a decade too. i'd advise spending a little more on something good

[odd sand]

It's just a bad time to make determinations like that atm bc of ATX 3.0 and the insane power increases

[modest moss]

iirc this build is a gift for younger siblings, so a 650w bronze for like 60 bucks might be good

[glossy ravine]

@modest moss

Amazon

[odd sand]

Will we be back down in power demands by 2-3 gens from now? Who knows.

[glossy ravine]

I got a $100 credit for signing up for the store card (that I'm gonna cancel immediately lel)

[modest moss]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Crossfire-Continuous-Certified-PS-SPD-0650NNFABU-1/dp/B07NPM8WZ7

[odd sand]

We were at like 130W then around Haswell we were down to 77W, now we're back up to 125W with max draw over 300W...

[glossy ravine]

Corsair RMX Series (2021), RM550x, 550 Watt, Gold, Fully Modular Power Supply https://a.co/d/3wHfaav

This was the one I was looking at in particular

[odd sand]

In the past I would have been with you on the free money, but opening new lines of credit and closing them can ding your credit score

$10 is worth fully modular

[glossy ravine]

I do have another general credit card that I've been extremely diligent with

[odd sand]

And 70 is honestly not a bad price the way component prices have been up

[glossy ravine]

(I end up overpaying most of the time. Oops.)

[odd sand]

You don't look at the balance before sending in payment? heh

[glossy ravine]

(I guess I could use the card a bit, then close it. The interest rate is draconian. Oof.)

My bank doesn't give a notification on when I last sent a payment to my card/doesn't reflect until a day or two later. And I tend to forget things.

[modest moss]

!unmute 113023999440633856

[opal panther]

Success!

@dull garnet has been unmuted by @modest moss.

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/emerging-entrance-im-here-rita-repulsa-power-rangers-gif-13514758

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087CDR14Z

[deep sapphire]

[modest moss]

speedy tried to link a modular 600w for $55 but it has a banned word in the amazon url

good price though

[deep sapphire]

I got bapped from a YouTube link once, feelsbad

[modest moss]

@glossy ravine check that one, 600w gold modular for 55

decent enough brand

[dull garnet]

only a semi but ye 55 dollar seems deec

[glossy ravine]

This thermaltake one?

[modest moss]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087CDR14Z that one yeah

[glossy ravine]

And just to double check. It will be compatible with my MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard?

[modest moss]

should be yep

[bitter girder]

What was the banned word

[modest moss]

uk slang for cigarette

[dull garnet]

there was a 3 letter slur for homosexual within a random string of characters

[bitter girder]

That’s class

[dull garnet]

kupo bot like

NOT TODAY PUNK

YOUR LIFE IS FORFEIT

[bitter girder]

Yeah kupo bot isn’t in my good book

[glossy ravine]

PCPartPicker (P3) isn't giving me any errors, so I'll go with it

Tyvm

[modest moss]

thank @dull garnet for spotting it tbh

[bitter girder]

Do that in the uk and a comically large anvil would fall on your head

Sounds and everything

[dull garnet]

there might be a better deal tbh, i just amazoned 80 plus power supply and that was an early result

[modest moss]

bum bag bro

[dull garnet]

haven't had a bum bag in

20+ years

[bitter girder]

People who wear fanny packs just need to respawn

Despawn

Sorry mate your time was coming anyway

Ahahahahaha

[dull garnet]

i imagine lewis is a zoomer with one of these

[bitter girder]

Incorrect

LETS GOOOO

AHAHA

[glossy ravine]

Thanks for saving me like 40 bucks yall

🙏

Now the only thing that I'm really waiting on for a discount (even a small amount) is the motherboard

Last major hurdle before I assemble things.

[bitter girder]

I might be getting my MacBook back tomorrow

[modest moss]

@dull garnet find a bargain mobo for a 5600x go

I see this https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B550-PRO-ProSeries-Motherboard/dp/B089CZSQB4/

[dull garnet]

I might have suggested B450

t. 5600x, b450 user

[modest moss]

it's going with a 6600xt and you definitely know more about amd builds

[dull garnet]

oh does the 6600 need pcie4?

or was that the 6500

bc b450 is pcie3 only

b550 is definitely better, but you could save a few bucks going cheaper

[modest moss]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-pci-express-scaling/

says you lose 2% performance with pcie 3

[dull garnet]

a520 might be a route if the right boards are available

[bitter girder]

And at the cost of dx issues

[dull garnet]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08F7BHDLY used this with the gf's 5600x

v nice board

[bitter girder]

I think my next board will be gigabyte

[dull garnet]

ah its pcie3 too

[modest moss]

never had a gigabyte board die on me tbh

[modest moss]

for the sake of $14 probably worth getting the MSI b550 I'd say

[dull garnet]

agree

otherwise https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B550-AC-Processors-Motherboard/dp/B089VZFWHB/

[modest moss]

that's probably good enough for a budget build tbh

[dull garnet]

jep

[bitter girder]

Jep

[dull garnet]

jaja

[bitter girder]

Ajajajja

I find myself sometimes doing -@-@-@-@-@-@-

Got what

[dull garnet]

what is that

[bitter girder]

God damn it

[dull garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWns11JTUe0 only real Gs remember this

[bitter girder]

It’s half 11 at night dingus

[dull garnet]

wanna know something funny

i swear to god i've seen uber eat drivers at the apple store collecting orders

just london things

[bitter girder]

Mental

[odd sand]

Was going to hook my new keyboard up to my computer and realized i dont have a long enough usb-c cable And too tired atm to go fishing for the hub cable for my monitor so I can connect it to the monitor instead

[night leaf]

Hrm, a 500W PSU is enough on a Radeon RX 6600 XT?

[dull garnet]

depends on the cpu you're pairing it with a little but yes

[odd sand]

The spec sheet says 450W is min rec

[dull garnet]

and they tend to be pretty generous

[odd sand]

Supposedly AM4 can't exceed 142W

[night leaf]

It's a Ryzen 5 3600

[dull garnet]

that's fine then

[royal forge]

Update

[odd sand]

Remembering when I used to help people spec out computer upgrades for Simcity 2013 and my thread got stickied in the tech forum

[dull garnet]

they're not too bad for power draw

[royal forge]

All parts are in the same state

?location unconfirmed

[sly elk]

yes, apple does that in the US, too

[royal forge]

But they're in the same state

[odd sand]

And ppl were asking if their builds were good pairing like 800-1000w PSUs with a gtx460

[sly elk]

when you see "same day delivery" on apple's website

that's how they do it

I would also highly recommend not doing it

[dull garnet]

remember these

🔥

[dull garnet]

ah right. i thought they were going on uber eats or something lmao

apple store
macbook air -> £999

eta 40 mins

etc

[odd sand]

Uber will deliver just about anything now

Honestly, it's not a bad idea assuming the driver doesn't just leave it on a porch heh

[sly elk]

nah youu can't order a macbook on uber eats

well that's the problem kinda

I've seen multiple posts on reddit where the uber eats driver just said it was delivered and didn't actually deliver it

[odd sand]

Ironically enough Postmates started the opposite way: They were shipping first and went into food later

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UberEATS/comments/szuh1o/ubereats_did_not_deliver_my_macbook_pro_from/

[odd sand]

Sure, but it's super suspicious and immediately opens them up to getting investigated

[dull garnet]

i had uber screw me on a £40 takeaway order recently

[odd sand]

Bc I'm sure apple doesn't want that bad rep on them either

[dull garnet]

they basically ruled the driver made a reasonable effort and that was that

[sly elk]

actually, that's the only bad post i see about them on reddit

[dull garnet]

[odd sand]

But yes that's a good point. I don't even trust Uber to deliver me food, let alone a laptop

[sly elk]

!!!

yea that's why I HATE uber

[dull garnet]

deleted my acc after that

[odd sand]

One and only time I used ubereats was bc i wanted an order from a local place and it seemed like they had their own, but when the order confirmation email hit it said Ubereats

It was routed to some guy that was parked at home and forgot to log off

So it just sat with them all night with no way to contact the driver or uber themselves

No phone number, only an email address that said they would respond within "24 to 48 hours"

[dull garnet]

joke

[sly elk]

usually uber eats is fantastic for me in terms of

[night leaf]

'kay, thanks. ❤️

[sly elk]

-receives order- -a dish is missing- -tap around in uber eats to report it's missing- -automated "we refunded $x to your account"-

but if you have to contact them for help, all bets are off, and you're probably not getting any $$ back

[dull garnet]

i prefer just eat over here, but they seem to have pared back their support when it comes to issue resolution

[bitter girder]

N

[dull garnet]

gone off ordering food though, gotten bored of what is available locally + something as basic as a kebab being delivered is like £15 now

[odd sand]

I ordered from the restaurant site so there was no app involved

Also yeah the 3rd party deliver is like regular delivery fee + handling fee + driver fee + kick you in the fee fees

Most orders cost like 50-100% more

[sly elk]

this is how you get screwed

the promise is you save like $5 buying directly from the restaurant

because they (usually) don't mark the prices up for delivery

buuut then they screw you by playing the "it's not us, call uber!" "it's not us, call the restaurant!" bs

[odd sand]

Thing is, the site isn't marked as using any 3rd party, so you have no way of knowing

[sly elk]

or my very very favorite variant of that

[bitter girder]

MacBook Pro main with a side of usb c to lightning

[sly elk]

"Oh I can't give you a refund, but if you come to the restaurant in person I'll give you the missing food"

[odd sand]

Well the store got screwed bc the order sat there not picked up all night bc the driver never went for it

[sly elk]

THEN WHY THE (@#%@ DID I PAY SOMEONE $10 AND A TIP TO DELIVER M &#!@%$(@#&%*(@#% FOOD"

[bitter girder]

MacBook arrived cold

[sly elk]

honestly i gotta say

missing food pisses me the (*@#% off

I don't express it

[odd sand]

That's why I stick to ones with inhouse delivery unless really really desperate

[dull garnet]

i saw some order on twitter the other day

[sly elk]

but when I'm politely asking for my missing food

I'm usually fucking piissssed

[dull garnet]

guy ordering some fancy coffee and it was like $25 after fees lmao

[bitter girder]

Cute

[sly elk]

because out here anyway

if you buy x,y,z and you get home and find z missing

and you go back and ask for your missing z

[odd sand]

Thing is, I couldn't go to pick it up if I wanted to, bc I was babysitting and didn't have enough booster seats. So it would have literally been illegal

[sly elk]

you'll get your missing z and probably not even an apology

and then you come back home to eat your cold x,y

[sly elk]

yea!! I'm with ya on this

also from what I've seen

[odd sand]

And exactly: There is no accountability, but they still want all your money

[sly elk]

most restaurants that offer 'order delivery from our site' don't actually contract with doordash or uber or whatever

they contract with OLO

[odd sand]

To top it off I have 3 cranky starving kids then bc the food was 2hrs late

[sly elk]

and half the time it's a franchise or something

so there's absolutely no accountability

[odd sand]

So I was able to walk with them down to the gas station a couple blocks away and buy some frozen pizzas

[sly elk]

instead, uber and olo and your restaurant all point fingers at each other

and I agree it's awful because if you paid up for food delivery

it's probably because you needed it

[odd sand]

Hmm need to figure out if there is a way to register my steam games with windows again. None of them come up after the reinstall

Come up in search that is

[boreal surge]

It’s likely some weird thing where you need admin privileges to add stuff to the start menu

[modest moss]

chargeback that shit with your bank or cc

especially cc

[sly elk]

And this is why I walked out of a dealer parts room after 3 weeks. Not joking. The day I quoted a customer $105 for a belt. Then realized we bought it for like $10. Then realized I could buy the exact same belt at a FLAPS for $30. I honestly just couldn't do it another day.

[modern iris]

putting thermal paste on a stock ryzen cooler on a gigabyte board is a nightmare. the backplate fell off when i took the cooler off, so when i went to go seat it again i had to hold the plate in place while i screwed the processor down with enough force to get it to lock down. such a pain in the ass. and you just know its smearing around on there

[modest moss]

don't amd stock coolers have paste pre-applied?

[dreamy chasm]

Might be repasting

[modest moss]

true

[modern iris]

repasting yeah

[modest moss]

cyan for tech mentor

[dreamy chasm]

At least it isn't an l9a

I had nightmares trying to mount that thing

[modern iris]

just idling on desktop with discord, 38c

[bitter girder]

Cinnamon bun mentor

[dreamy chasm]

I idle at 60, but my fan curve is set to silent

[modern iris]

mines on manual and i have it higher than default

fan is at 1500 rpm atm

[sly elk]

yeaaaaaaa it's no big deal though

[modern iris]

i just worry about it seaping and the board shorting

[sly elk]

which paste are you using?

[royal forge]

Monitor is out for delivery

Slight pog

[modern iris]

arctic mx-4

[royal forge]

Case and SSD that was SUPPOSEDLY on the same shipment is ???

[dreamy chasm]

Most thermal pastes you can buy aren't conductive

[modern iris]

i think this on the box says something about it being highly conductive yet not bleeding? 0o

[dreamy chasm]

It's thermally conductive

Not electrically

[modern iris]

oh gotcha

thank you for that

😄

[dreamy chasm]

No worries

[modern iris]

it says it has a life of 8 years

[dreamy chasm]

You can only really put on too little paste tbh, unless you're globbing on incredibly excessive amounts

[modern iris]

i did a dot about the size of one of the capictors

capacitors*

and then i dabbed a teeny bit more

[dreamy chasm]

A pea sized dot usually the minimum, I do two lines across the diagonals, personally

[modern iris]

so i should be ok

i didnt know paste had a difference of thermal conductivity and electrical

[sly elk]

Yep and if you don’t put enough, the worst that happens is your temps are a few degrees more than they could be

Likewise if you ever take the heat sink off and just put it back on without redoing the trhermal paste hahahaa

People fuss a lot over it to get a 3-5c difference

Not saying it’s not worth it, but in most cases the most optimal setup will not make a giant difference 🙂

[modern iris]

get on customer service chat and bitch at em. i did that about a 60$ tv once because i thought it went to wrong address and they refunded my purchase, and didnt have to return the tv

[void dove]

thermal paste life, can depend on temps its taking as well
paste eventually can dry and crack, making it less effective
i'd re-paste a CPU once every 3-5 years

though you may not notice if the computer has good cooling to start with

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KbNz8966-I

[sly elk]

https://slickdeals.net/f/16222723-dell-outlet-alienware-aw3423dw-qd-oled-3440x1440-175hz-gaming-monitor-755-90

[hard drift]

Lmao

@tame fulcrum what does your deal look like now

[sly elk]

black friday specials this year are bound to be wild because economy and oversupply i guess, but uh

that one's through dell outlet which means you get a 90 day warranty and a crappy return policy

It's also refurbished. As I'm now finding out.

yea that's a good deal. and yours is new. and has the full warranty 🙂

[sly elk]

based purely on the video preview pictures, I'd say Steve has a bad case of indigestion and should see a dietician

o_O

is that the MS employee discount>

oo

my epp code just gives me normal prices :\

samsung epp is pretty good though

silly because my company buys a loooot from dell

oh wut. they have an epp with apple now?!

$100 discount on the monitor stand

[sharp star]

dude's been trying to make RTX 40 cables melt so yeah

[sly elk]

can you imagine the smell?

I haven't watched the video but

did they ever just like, make a build with a 13900k and a 4090 and stuff it inside a nzxt h500

or an h510 or some other reeally common small case like a fractal

maybe jam the cable in kinda hasty

or did they just do it on a bench with the gpu sticking up vertically

[sharp star]

they used a test bench

[sly elk]

that's why they didn't see any problems haha

yea I pointed all that out, it's not that great a deal but for someone fearless

and most cases don't have much clearance for a fat gpu power cable

yea imagine doing that with a 4090 cable

this "you plugged it in wrong" stuff comes off like "you're holding it wrong"

oh ffs

https://tenor.com/view/rubbish-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-trash-you-suck-gif-5495325

[sharp star]

they had a thermal camera setup so they could catch the moment when the plastic bubbled

[sly elk]

no i mean

the cable and plugs aren't subject to the same kinda forces

or thermal exposure, for that matter

[sharp star]

oh

[sly elk]

when the video card is installed normally, the hot air is coming off the sides of the card an could potentially cook the cables. I mean, I think that steve and his team probably took all that into account

and I haven't watched the video xD

[modest moss]

Ice do you own any tech that just, yanno, works?

my question stands

[dull garnet]

[sly elk]

I've never really had a monitor I thought was 100% perfect

hmm actually

the 20" cinema display i had was really really really good

super bright, very nice factory calibration for the color, even backlight, no dead pixels, and the antiglare coating was AMAZING

the LG 34" I used to use has a really good antiglare coating too

my alienware screens have a kinda crappy antiglare coating

and then there's that dell build quality

legendary. apply pressure to any side of the screen and hear all the cracks and creaks

it's like a dashboard in a 2006 chevy HHR on a cold winter morning

on a bumpy road

and the hilarious part to me, is dells are some of the best when it comes to build quality

[sly elk]

heh

i'm sitting here feeling hella sleepy

then i remember i slept like

5 hours last night? lol

[royal forge]

POG INTENSIFIES

[boreal surge]

How many chapters through "Aoi's Adventures in PC Building" are we?

[hard drift]

lets hope it doesn't get there, your chapters were hell

hell to read 😐

rubbernecker?

ummm okay

[royal forge]

DOUBLE POGGER

[modest moss]

do you have it all now?

[royal forge]

SSD, case, wifi

Same state, so HOPEFULLY tomorrow?

[modest moss]

couldn't find a motherboard with wifi?

[sly elk]

time to put it together 😄

[proven oyster]

Today I found out

Windows can just

Forcefully

Update drivers

W h y

[void dove]

this has been a thing

since windows 8.1

you can disable it

turn that off

[proven oyster]

I was mid gaming
Just
Randomly updated drivers
And it even broke my AMD Adrenalin, which I was using to fps cap

[void dove]

Start -> Settings -> System -> About > Related settings, click Advanced system settings. > Hardware

i do that on any new computer i get

[proven oyster]

I'll get on that

First time it just happened to me like this

[void dove]

because it causes all sorts of stupid shit with graphics card drivers :/

yeah

Windows update has usually fairly old drivers, not the best choice for graphics cards

[royal forge]

No stock PTSD

[proven oyster]

@void dove love you

It was on "Yes"

[void dove]

no surprise there 😄

[proven oyster]

I did also the AMD Factory reset for its drivers

So i should be

clean

With 22.11.1 drivers

[void dove]

yeah, i do a graphics driver update every few months,
and do a full DDU clean to make sure there are no conflicts or stupid stuff left behind.
and that option, is annoying, to say the least, as windows will download and install the nvidia drivers that are like a year old from Microsoft, before i can install the latest one

[proven oyster]

So what i am learning is

"Oh its on recommended... eh thats fine ill leave it there"

Apparently no it should be Optional

Otherwise Windows sees driver from May and has a panic attack

Cus it WAS updated on recommended, just not optional

Honestly im just incredibly angry that it did it MID GAME

I was ACTIVE

[royal forge]

Hmmmm

I can buy a k3000 SSD here

1TB for 459

Like.. 20 ringgit more than i paid?

Im not sure how would I go about connectin to wifi..

I can have the PC up and running tonight

Oh.

I can tether my phone

[sly elk]

wifi adapters are hard to come by?

man I have at least 2 usb ones laying around in a box somewhere

[royal forge]

Well

I already have a PCIE one otw

But i'd prefer a 2TB SSD for storage..

But thats pricey

samsung 980 1tb nvme gen3 m.2 ssd 480

kingston kc3000 1024gb nvme gen4 m.2 459
kingston nv2 1tb nvme gen4 m.2 339

Wonder why the NV2 is much cheaper

[odd sand]

Weird. I didn't know that setting was there for the drivers, but I've never seen it randomly mess anything up. Especially something like overriding Nvidia drivers with MS provided ones

[odd sand]

No DRAM cache on it

[royal forge]

Ah.

[odd sand]

I dunno if its the new CPU or Win11 or both, but rendering web pages and even opening explorer windows just seems almost instant now

[sly elk]

niec

i should try win 11

[void dove]

more likely new pc

im still on win10

and runs buttery smooth and very snappy

youd be surprised what a brand new windows install will do for you, no matter the version

especially since ppl usually install crap over time and dont cleanup after themselves 😛

i go and do a purge of programs i dont use semi-regularly

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/paula-deen-butter-chicken-snl-gif-13689382

did someone say butter

[paper tusk]

whoa there paula deen

[languid lava]

@deep sapphire

[bitter girder]

I feel so defeated

The repair team keep telling me the store has my MacBook and the store keeps telling me it’s on its way and it’ll be here tomorrow

They’ve said that 3 times each day

[bitter girder]

Literally that’s what they say to me

[umbral moss]

yeah, for some reason windows update maintains an nvidia driver version that isn't the same as any one you can get from nvidia directly

so it messes up the versioning for a while until nvidia releases a trunk newer than whatever horseshit microsoft decided its driver is set against

I had that problem for a while, since the windows update one would install itself even if I scrubbed the driver off my PC and tried to install an nvidia provided one

[royal forge]

Time to unpack the monitor

I think

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-is-outselling-the-rtx-4080-on-ebay-by-a-factor-of-3-4 puts into perspective how bad the 4080 is selling

[umbral moss]

the 4080 is a $500 part at best

change my mind

[royal forge]

FOR FUCKS SAKE

WHICH ONE OF YOU CLOWNS TOLD ME 27 INCHES WAS A GOOD IDEA

[hard drift]

what's wrong with 27 inch?

[umbral moss]

🤔

[royal forge]

ITS HUGE

Holy fuckin shit

[umbral moss]

27 inches is pretty close to ideal monitor size unless you sit very far away from your desk

yes, it's the largest monitor you can reasonably look at from a normal desk distance

[hard drift]

it's literally the perfect size aoi.... you're just used to a laptop

[umbral moss]

imagine going from a 13" laptop screen to a 27" monitor lmao

like watching a gameboy screen and then going to the movie theater

[hard drift]

did you expect it to be smaller

[royal forge]

I DUNOE

Holy shit

If i get a monitor arm

I can go to sleep watching movies

[hard drift]

[royal forge]

WHAT THE FUCK

ITS SO HUGE

[modest moss]

When you move that piece of shit laptop it'll be perfect

[royal forge]

just waiting on the case

[modest moss]

You'll be like HOLY SHIT PERFECT GIANT ANIME BOOBA

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-rosa-diaz-fart-noises-fart-farting-gif-22683456

[royal forge]

what the fuck

its... so huge

like

[modest moss]

you're welcome

also

[jaunty light]

Huge

Thats what she said

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

@dull garnet pixel 6, £299 brand new, thoughts?

[bitter girder]

Not bad

6a right?

Swear Argos its selling it for 299

[modest moss]

no, 6

399 but currys has a 100 off code

tempted but I hate buying things

I'm like, I should just let my note 4 die before I buy anything

might get another year out of it

[bitter girder]

Lol 96 Ls

Fuck off just doxxed myself for the 9th time

If anyone saw that send me tea bags

[modest moss]

didn't see it

[wide hill]

normal size

[modest moss]

I have uh, 1500~ tea bags, pop over

[bitter girder]

Okay

We can go phone shopping together

[wide hill]

it's huge compared to the small ones

imagine having gdpr

[jaunty light]

Uber sucks

[inland mauve]

it's true that there may be legal reasons to preserve data for seven years but that is ONLY for those legal purposes

[jaunty light]

I was drunk as hell in shibuya and they locked mu account

Thankfully you can wave a cab but it took like 50 passing to get

There was a prostitute and a pimp probably thinking they were gonna rob me

[inland mauve]

like especially since they can apparently easily restore your account during those seven years heavily implies they're just using it as a loophole to hang onto your data for seven years without extra measures

[paper tusk]

yeesh (usually only hold on to records for taxes for 3 years unless have written off losses)

[dull garnet]

6a is a better buy imo

[umbral moss]

I don't like my pixel 6, honestly

I got it for 50% off a few months back through a carrier promo but it's got a dodgy radio chip and the fingerprint sensor works like 40% of the time

[modest moss]

6a is also 299 unless I manage to get a trade in deal with a jank phone and that's unlikely

[umbral moss]

completely useless if your finger is even a little wet

[modest moss]

doubt I'd use the fingerprint sensor much tbh

[umbral moss]

oh, you just washed your hands? haha your phone won't unlock

the digitizer also strokes out sometimes

so the screen just stops responding

if you have cold fingers the capacitance of your dry skin is too low to trigger the sensors so the screen won't register your thumb

[modest moss]

maybe I'll just soldier on with this old beast

[umbral moss]

largely I hate that google decided to make their own hardware and they didn't really learn any lessons from better designed products

but we have tensor to power ML assisted camera features

so much effort wasted on ML garbo

you know how you take better night photos? use a larger goddamn sensor and better quality optics

fucking nokia knew that in 2008

google's answer was "design an entirely new chip and waste 30% of the die space on ML crunching functionality to composite a multiple exposure shot"

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[dull garnet]

https://www.dpreview.com/news/1641689739/ here's your sensor bro

[hard drift]

my headphones should be arriving at the repair facility today.... hopefully it doesn't take too long to get back to me

[dull garnet]

thank you beyer, very cool!

[hard drift]

hopefully they don't break again 😔

[modest moss]

sorry dear

[hard drift]

More things you’re wasting money on 😭

[modest moss]

goodbye house?

[hard drift]

There’s also a ton of people wanting the houses

Just stay on your server smh

You’ll just regret it and feel like transferring again

[modest moss]

move to gilgamesh and follow bidori around

[hard drift]

please no

[modest moss]

he's a good friend

[hard drift]

you moron

[dull garnet]

too much treble

[hard drift]

nothing

[modest moss]

no, you can't transfer an FC

and this is normal for bidori

he rejects love

[hard drift]

lol i don't reject love

[dull garnet]

[modest moss]

you transferred?

you're going to NA?

[potent arrow]

Imagine having the gil to own an fc house

Couldn't be me

I'm poor as shiiiittt

⚰️

[hard drift]

It’s easy to make money though 😭

[dull garnet]

boring too

[potent arrow]

All I do I'm the game is raid lol

[hard drift]

Always is lol

[hard drift]

Then you don’t even need money

[potent arrow]

Food

Pots

[hard drift]

Food is cheap so are pots

There is a point…

[potent arrow]

Ice what

[hard drift]

You’re horrible at the game if you think there is no point

[modest moss]

Sarah take Ice's gil, I would

[hard drift]

Then why speak about it 😭

[potent arrow]

I run like 300-400 pots a week beheeheeh

[modest moss]

mithkabobs+1 pls

[potent arrow]

Got enough food for this tier tho

[modest moss]

atk buff not acc

[hard drift]

buy the materials and have someone make it, probably cheaper

[potent arrow]

Probably.

Definitely.

[modest moss]

Ice will make it for you obvs

Ice will buy you an FC house and craft for you

[potent arrow]

Ice why did you buy a fantasia and like

[modest moss]

to make up for all his tech nonsense

[potent arrow]

Not use it for this long

[modest moss]

my wife still hasn't found our spare 1.0 CE

I want to add the codes to my account

whether they work or not is another question

[potent arrow]

Damn that's cool

Ive put some of the books on my Christmas/Bday wishlist

[hard drift]

[potent arrow]

Namingway will be mine

God I need to clear p8s AAAA

[odd sand]

Tricksy hobbitses ... although I normally use Firefox

[potent arrow]

Pf.

[dull garnet]

who would subject themselves to pf

[bitter girder]

So

Got contacted

Apparently delivery driver fucked up

Will get it Friday now

[modest moss]

it's gone mate

delivery driver sold it

[bitter girder]

Probably

🧌

[sly elk]

lol

one day i'll visit ice in ffxiv

[dull garnet]

delivery driver started azumanga

[odd sand]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/metalfish-aquarium-pc-case-tested

[bitter girder]

Ahahahahahha

[dull garnet]

you'll get it back when he's done

[odd sand]

Azumanga, the start of 4koma adaptations to anime and then all the VNs followed. I feel like the majority of both have been completely pushed aside by isekai now.

Although I'm sure there is still one here or there for both still happening.

[modest moss]

just use fc chest?

you probably just didn't understand them

[dull garnet]

i could go to any major city and see about 4 at any one time

[odd sand]

I went to the JP convo panel at the anime con last weekend and met some ppl that run a local JP convo group that meets twice a month \o/

A couple of them sound really good. The one lady said she only had 2 years of classes and never been to Japan before, but her pitch accent and pronunciation was really onpoint. She's a regular of the convo group, so I guess that makes sense

[sly elk]

i wonder if the asrock sonic board has a sonic boot screen

it'd be perfect if it played the seeeega animation at startup lmao

[bitter girder]

I’m sad

[modern iris]

Hi

does it run good on 3060. I3 12 gen

[odd sand]

FF14? Don't see why not assuming you're on 1080p.

Game has had a few graphical updates, but still largely on the engine it had 10 years ago

Hell, I had it running 720p on low on the onboard GPU of my parents 2012 core i3 lol

That was during stormblood though

[odd sand]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-officially-introduces-pay-as-you-go-chip-licensing

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/middle-finger-i-hate-you-anime-lucky-star-gif-15735876

[latent grotto]

Wtf intel

[devout nexus]

everyone tries to become the rentier model

they dont want anyone owning their software, and now their hardware. they want yearly or monthly stipend

this is why competition is essential

[bitter girder]

^

Competition lately has been non existent

They’re both just bad

All even

[odd sand]

Sad thing is, I can see the merits of a system like that, but you know they're gonna use it for evil rather than the positives

[bitter girder]

True

[odd sand]

Bc presumably the cost difference isn't that great, so they're willing to potentially take some cost hit on a per unit basis to save money in simplifying the product stack and logistics

The ones that need to fuck off are stuff like that Mercedes where you need to pay them for acceleration. And it's a yearly sub, not just a one time "upgrade".

[devout nexus]

yeah definitely agree then once they got their hooks in on payments they can arbitrarily up the price at some random time and all they need to do is send you an email without asking

i think the concept of smart contracts has a LOT of potential. i cant tell you how many times i gave cancelled my sub to a given MMO and then they just charge it anyway

its got to be 5 times or so in the last year. why is t h e power not in my hands to prevent that. with a smart contract account where contracts are between 2 parties and no indifferent 3rd party middle man to add complexity for no reason

that would be solved

but the visa/mastercard/AE mafia i suspect actually likes fraud ...

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-rosa-diaz-fart-noises-fart-farting-gif-22683456

the important thing about that is that it's a fucking software lockout

so you can bet cobb will have a flash for the ECU that costs like $800

[glossy ravine]

What the actual hell??

[odd sand]

It makes some amount of sense from a production standpoint since they say a lot of those features are software-defined

So its like a mini FPGA on a regular CPU

[wide hill]

lmao wut, "pay for hardware for the amount you use it"???

like, as if it was some kind of cloud service

well, you gotta pay for licensing for the server cpu's anyway

[odd sand]

The list of technologies that Intel wants to make available on demand includes Software Guard Extensions, Dynamic Load Balancer (DLB), Intel Data Streaming Accelerator (DSA), Intel In-Memory Analytics Accelerator (IAA), and Intel QuickAssist Technology (QAT) to accelerate specific workloads.

[wide hill]

things that are already implemented on the cpu

[odd sand]

If you consider it from an enterprise perspective, it can make a lot of sense

[wide hill]

it could make things cheaper

if they make it so

[glossy ravine]

From a consumer perspective this is fhucked

[wide hill]

well yeah, but a consumer won't get a cpu made for datacentres

if they are removing already added-features into making a seperate paid option, and not reducing the price when the feature was there before, that is shitty

[odd sand]

Datacenter CPUs are only kept for 3-4 years until the warranty is up

So instead of a $10k processor you only use the extra features on for like 20% of the time

[boreal surge]

There’s a couple of arguments to it

[odd sand]

You could pay $6k for the CPU and then when you find you need some of them turn them on for whatever and only pay an extra $1k before selling it off

That's not to say it couldn't be abused, but it could make a lot of financial sense from an enterprise perspective

[boreal surge]

On the negative side it’s the obvious “it’s on the chip already just let people use it”

[odd sand]

The Software Defined Silicon (SDSi) technology will also allow Intel to sell fewer CPU models and then enable its clients or partners to activate certain features if needed (to use them on-prem or offer them as a service).

That's the FPGA-like part.

[wide hill]

it definetly feels shitty where you pay for a hardware, and then you have to pay even more to use the hardware

[boreal surge]

On the positive side it’s one product line instead of several, cheaper upgrades for companies that don’t necessarily understand their workloads yet

[odd sand]

Also it's interesting from a cloud-computing perspective that providers wouldn't have to pay for those features on CPUs for clients if the clients aren't using them

[wide hill]

"wouldn't have to pay to use it", when they paid for the cpu to use the cpu

[boreal surge]

And makes it easier for Intel to invest into high end R&D as they do not have to factor in cost of doing different product line

[wide hill]

it'd better be cheaper if they are disabling features

[boreal surge]

Yeah that’s the very big question here

[wide hill]

the article is very not-great-info when it comes if it is a good deal or not

cause there is no price we can compare it to

[boreal surge]

With current model Intel is only incentivized to develop up to current tech requirements too

[wide hill]

10k$ cheaper without the steering wheel ty

[modern iris]

whats better 4x4 2400 mhz dual channel or 2x8 3600 single?

have an amd board with ryzen 5

[olive bear]

anyone know if there is a good wireless MMO mouse from one of the major brands?

[modern iris]

my redragon is pretty nice. had it several months

oh wait

nvm

not major

[olive bear]

I have a naga wired with the numpad buttons on the side, but if I can get a good deal I would switch for a wireless one

I prefer logitech but it seems they don't have an MMO mouse that uses their wireless lightspeed tech 😦

[modern iris]

dont go wireless, more input latency

well for mmo that probably doesnt matter actually

[olive bear]

Oh I know, but logitech's wireless tech is pretty much 0 latency, I have a g502 lightspeed and it's fantastic. just wish they had a version of the g600(numpad mouse) with it

[weary sphinx]

For MMOs it should be alright. Good wireless peripherals only add ~10 ms to the average wired speed. Still 3 to 5 times slower than the average wired mouse, though

[odd sand]

Both of those would be dual channel FYI. And 2x8 3600 is way better, especially for AMD

The memory controller is less strained with only 2 sticks and 3600 is the sweet spot for Ryzen

Only high-end workstations offer all 4 sticks working together and that is called quad channel

[olive bear]

something I'm curious about, does the PS4/5 version support KB/M or controller only

[royal forge]

Bother

I forgot to deal with the software part of the pc

Right. Win 10

[potent arrow]

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