technology-discussion

[royal forge]

im so happy

but like

oh my god

what have i done

[dreamy chasm]

There's a bunch of good 1440 144hz monitors now

[sly elk]

gud midi

https://youtu.be/cA-ZAbHQS44?t=1064

[dreamy chasm]

It's neat that retro is still alive

[sly elk]

retro!

[dreamy chasm]

I don't find it appealing personally but, there's just something about people who are really passionate about old tech that I find entertaining

[dull garnet]

Good retro components are way pricey too

V popular now

[paper tusk]

me: this power mac sucks to work with
collector: OH MEH GERD DOS CARD IN IT, $200

the cable to use the dos card goes for as much as the system

[real edge]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-headpats-gif-24091506

that pc will last you for the next 5-6years, maybe more

[royal forge]

10 i think

I hope

[real edge]

if nothing breaks yeah

[royal forge]

Gotta get 2 decent monitors tho

[dull garnet]

I don't doubt that, just wish it were a control option like in blazblue. New melty blood has the same problem

[dull garnet]

This gif is the most fun I've had with league

[real edge]

im guessing most of that money was the gpu

[royal forge]

Ye

But im happy i did it

Laptop BSOD when i launched discord

[real edge]

monitors are thankfully easy

so you do not have to worry

[royal forge]

1440p, 144 Hz, prefably good color prpfile

I think thats my needs

[real edge]

what budget

[royal forge]

How low can you go

Cuz i was thinkin 3k for 2

But i dunoe if thats doable

[real edge]

LG 27GL850

look up that monitor

in your country

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gp850-b

or this

[dull garnet]

https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl

[real edge]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q-x#page-test-results

this too

[royal forge]

I seem to only have the GP, not the GL

[real edge]

cost?

[royal forge]

I see 27Qs but not 27Q X

[royal forge]

1750

[real edge]

not bad for the GP

so that is one option

[royal forge]

Whats the main diff?

Cuz im trying to check the LG site but it just shows LG GLs

[real edge]

gigabyte one has a better color profile out of the box and higher HZ, GP has better overdrive(response times) but worse out of the box color profile

QX gigabyte that is

[royal forge]

Is it hard to calibrate?

[real edge]

idk

[royal forge]

I'll have to search on GP vs GLs

The response times

How big a deal is it?

[real edge]

Dell Alienware AW3423DWF check this and see how much it costs

im curious

[real edge]

my eyes were sensitive to response times so I had to get a low response time monitor

yours might not

but the general aspect is

[royal forge]

5300

Ringgit

[real edge]

ohh oof

too expensive

abnormally expensive actually

anyways the general aspect is

hold on a second I forgot the wording

basically each hz amount has a response time requirement for the monitor to be smooth and not have errors

you can push the display too far with overdrive and still have errors

that is called overshoot, when its an overdrive thing

and it may or may not be perceivable

basically the question we ask is: is the display fast enough for the HZ? if yes then its up to each individuals eyes

[royal forge]

Thoughts on the msi g273qf?

[royal forge]

I see i see.

[real edge]

to determine what is fast and what is not

[sly elk]

my monitor is 120hz but when i watch a show and there'ss a camera pan from left to right or whatever it hurts to watch haha

[real edge]

some ppl do not perceive 5ms as motion blur or blurry when objects are moving

some do

etc

[real edge]

that monitor has bad color accuracy out of the box

it needs calibration

[royal forge]

Ah

But i can download color profiles online?

[real edge]

I do not know stuff about color calibration, sorry

[royal forge]

Its k. Thanks!

[real edge]

I can tell you which displays have good color calibration out of the box though

[dull garnet]

You need a probe

[royal forge]

I thought you can download color profiles?

[dull garnet]

You can but they're worthless

Panels aren't exactly the same + different environments

[royal forge]

Im guessin fast response and good color profiles are an expensive combo

[real edge]

not necessarily, the GP has good response times and a decent color profile out of the box

so does the gigabyte M27QX

[dull garnet]

Both the ones Nhadala listed should be reasonable. Colour calibration is only hugely important if you're doing video or photo editing

[real edge]

they exist here so hm

huh

that is not 240hz

what happened to the Q X

wtf

27q should still be good enough for aoi

https://youtu.be/ItPCOFR5xuU

[royal forge]

Ye

[real edge]

https://youtu.be/uNIqwxAZ-MQ

here are the two main competitors at your budget class

the m27q is within your budget if you buy 2

gp850 isn't, its 500 over from the looks of it

but either way

do let me know what monitors you see there that interest you

and I can check for you

monitors are easy thankfully

BUT it is preferable

[sly elk]

what about

an aorus FO48U

[real edge]

if you buy them from a store that has that "return for refund if you change your mind" that you showed me

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-yes-anime-i-have-an-idea-think-gif-16027707

[real edge]

isn't that an expensive oled

[sly elk]

yep

[dull garnet]

Sony fw900

[sly elk]

yas

oh my goodness

tbh these were CRT enthusiast monitors from the start

[royal forge]

I dont think response times are that big a deal for me

Cuz im too geezer

[real edge]

it depends on your eyes rather than you tbh

5ms might be good enough for your eyes to not perceive motion blur

or it might not and you will get dizzy in games moving the camera around

or moving your character will make you perceive their surroundings as blurry messes

its on a case by case basis

my eyes were sensitive to it

so I had to get a fast monitor

[dull garnet]

Input lag is what you should be looking at

Check rtings reviews for measurements

1 frame is 33ms

[royal forge]

Im gettin answers from buildapc discord, recommending the msi

[dull garnet]

10 or less is a good place to aim for

[real edge]

the msi has piss poor color calibration out of the box

idk who would go for that

[royal forge]

Ye. But apparently good contrast?

[real edge]

every IPS has poor contrast

but good colors

[royal forge]

I see.

[real edge]

all ur gonna get with ips is 1000-1200

[royal forge]

Lemme stew on it

[real edge]

which makes blacks appear grey

[sly elk]

https://youtu.be/kW5X4dU0gnY?t=561

[real edge]

if you want contrast as well then the M27Q has a contrast of 1100

the GP850 has a contrast of 800

MSI has 1200

[royal forge]

I didnt know there was so much to consider

[dull garnet]

Yeah, prices were pretty bad a decade ago even but tech YouTubers paying whatever people ask means they're like 2-3k now

[sly elk]

yep X_X

right now used CRTs are waaay inflated in price

[dull garnet]

I'd rather a 4:3 anyway

[sly elk]

in part because tons of them were ewasted in the early/mid 2000s

but also because CRTs break pretty easily lol

[real edge]

every IPS has dodgy contrast so it shouldn't matter too much to you

but if contrast(deep blacks) do matter then the m27q has a clear advantage

but 300 is not that big of a difference

every IPS has bad blacks

[sly elk]

meh I hear things like that but somehow I've never gotten to use a really high end VA screen so I kinda don't care 😄

[real edge]

there is no avoiding that

[dull garnet]

If deep blacks matter get an oled

[sly elk]

I have a cheap VA screen

[royal forge]

I'd just like a good monitor dor 144hz 1440p

[dull garnet]

Anything else is laughable

[sly elk]

i'd much much rather use my IPS screens

[royal forge]

Decent color profile

Ok response times

[sly elk]

but OLED has amazing dark colors wow

it also has burn-in though

[dull garnet]

Not really an issue now

[royal forge]

I am fearful of burn in too

As i type with my burned in phpne screen

[dull garnet]

black on ips looks ASS at night

ASS

[real edge]

GP850 / M27Q are your options with your listed requirements, including budget, lmk if you see anything else anywhere else and ill check

[royal forge]

I dont mind goin a bit higher

Maybe i'll use one monitor first

Then buy another if happy

[jaunty light]

TPU II sucks apparently

i aint enabling that shit again, ASUS engineers suck!

[real edge]

higher hmmm

then we go to the 240hz version of the M27Q

[royal forge]

Haha

Dont think i need 240

[real edge]

its better in all aspects to the 170hz m27q

[jaunty light]

yea u dont need 240hz

you need 360hz

[real edge]

colors, response times

etc

[royal forge]

Nhadala, where do you learn about these monitors?

[real edge]

if you want to go a bit higher

I did research for mine

[royal forge]

Ah. I see.

[real edge]

and learned about all of this stuff

while shopping for it

[royal forge]

Rting is the best place to read up?

[real edge]

yes, and youtube

[royal forge]

Gotcha

[real edge]

monitors unboxed/hardware unboxed

[royal forge]

Roger roger

[jaunty light]

anywhere that does an actual review with hardware measurements of the color accuracy, pixel response times, etc

"tech chap" was the first dude to get a pg27aqn for review and he's a fucking nonce

[real edge]

found the UK person

[jaunty light]

nop

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-gigachad-chad-based-british-gif-22776755

[jaunty light]

rtings, optimum usually does pretty good these days

uh, that one dutch girl's channel

[dull garnet]

A girl 😳

[jaunty light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_EYBElHEJQ

[dull garnet]

I find rtings helpful

They let me know my tv has a full frame of lag at 1080p

[jaunty light]

plus optimum has a hsc now so he shows what the pixel response time looks like between panels

and hz

[paper tusk]

I use this although if use ffmpeg option make sure the settings aren't dumb (no post processing) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube_downloader_webx/

[real edge]

bought for 334euro

price now

feels like I won the stock market or something

I need a cooler for this thing as well but

not necessary right now as I will not install it

I wonder if I should try installing it myself

I know what to do software wise at least

but physically? nop

I have a 2700x already so all I have to do

is update my bios and its ready

[dull garnet]

physically

[real edge]

ohh and uninstall ryzen master

[dull garnet]

you remove it

and pop in the new one

you're welcome

[real edge]

the cooler is the tricky part

[jaunty light]

yup just PGA

cooler is easy

[dull garnet]

i have friends that lose their fucking mind over thermal paste

its like

put some on

install cooler

done

[jaunty light]

shoulda seen how dogshit I put on the 2nd one when I Was trying to see if it was a contact issue

i spatula'd it and it looked like a dog rubbing its ass on carpet

the moment TiM hits air its a bitch to work with

[dull garnet]

yeah that's never a good idea

[jaunty light]

now that the ASUS bios isn't overvolting my CPU in attempts to hit 4.5GHz i only cap out at like 70c

gonna need to manually do the OC when I put it under water ig, it was ruthless

89.9C? MORE VOLTAGE
spikes to 95.5C
THROTTLE

[real edge]

there is a PBO2 tuner

[jaunty light]

made the mistake of using ASUS TPU II

[real edge]

that allows you to adjust the power curve of the cpu

[jaunty light]

dogshit utiility

[dull garnet]

imagine software overclocking

LOL

[bitter girder]

Soft

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/erection-boing-erect-doorstop-gif-17329924

[jaunty light]

they scheduled my MG delivery for today, pls DHL bring my fittings too

those are still sitting at LAX

[bitter girder]

My house has these

[sly walrus]

i member those

[bitter girder]

Cute pfp

[modest moss]

@royal forge hank and I both have the LG

It's great

[bitter girder]

LG good

[modest moss]

I like my LG TV too

[jaunty light]

sony gang

[dull garnet]

Sony gang

But only for watching anime. Horrible for gaming

[jaunty light]

u cant be a gamer on a TV

impossible

[dull garnet]

Unless it is a 4K source

Then it's around half a frame of lag

[jaunty light]

i used my TV a couple of times for desktop and it was garbage

[dull garnet]

Which is still 6x more than my PC monitor

Lol

[jaunty light]

60hz on TV feels like 10hz

[dull garnet]

Switch and MiSTer on my TV basically for gaming

[jaunty light]

if im usin a switch then idc how ass the TV is

thing frame drops to like 15 for no reason anyways

[dull garnet]

Playing bayonetta 3 was heck

[royal forge]

Gotcha. Thanks

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/galax-geforce-rtx-4090-hof-claims-20-world-records it begins

[modest moss]

Solid logic

[bitter girder]

@dull garnet

I did irl

Completely forgot

[dull garnet]

Based

Iconic

[modest moss]

[royal forge]

Shue

The LG monitor

How is the color and response time etc

Quite accurate? Color wise

[versed zenith]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[modest moss]

🐖

[royal forge]

He was just around~

[jaunty light]

nah this shit definitely gonna get here monday

wryyy

[versed zenith]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[modest moss]

Response Time 1ms (GtG at Faster)

[modest moss]

[royal forge]

How do you personally find the contrast and color accuracy

[modest moss]

as for the colour, to me it's gorgeous, I just use the RTS preset

[jaunty light]

shue you should start a tech channel

where you read off the spec sheet

[royal forge]

And is the back easily detachable? I'm debating one of em monitor arms

[jaunty light]

those are the best kinds of channels frfr

[royal forge]

I just see pics of it with the stand

[modest moss]

I don't approve of most tech videos

[royal forge]

But i wanna know if i can multiarm dat shit

[modest moss]

I can't stand gn and ltt

[jaunty light]

LTT is for memes only, GN is very dry but useful overall

better if you like steve

but most tech channels are just people reading off specsheets or not understanding what they are talkin about

[modest moss]

Aoi, it says you can wall mount it

idk man, I put it on the stand and use it

[jaunty light]

which monitor

almost every monitor these days is a 75x75 or 100x100 vesa

[modest moss]

LG 27GP850-B

this is 100x100 apparently

[jaunty light]

The LG 27" 27GP850-B has a VESA size of 100 x 100 mm

its unusual to see a 75x75 but nearly every mount has the holes for it

thankfully most MFGs have fucked off with their "MY BRAND" designs too, so it's all just normal mounting

back when I had an AOC it came with an adapter plate, because of course

[real edge]

the gp850s response times can be seen on rtings and hardware unboxed

the advertised 1ms is always false

and is just stupid marketing nonsense

its never true

[bitter girder]

Tfw mines 5ms

[modest moss]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gp850-b

good enough for me

[royal forge]

I'll get one

If its too whack, i'll maybe use it as a second monitor theb

[real edge]

try and get it from a store that you can return it to

[bitter girder]

^

[modest moss]

Aoi I thought you already had monitors

idk why I think this

[royal forge]

Unfortunately there arent any

I just ordered one

It does look p good

[royal forge]

Nah i dont

Just a 1080p one

[jaunty light]

buy a pg27aqn

[royal forge]

Fucks sake

[modest moss]

based on the research I did, this was clearly the best option without spending a ton more money

[royal forge]

Ye. I got a quite good offer for it

1.5k rather than 1.7

Singles day

[modest moss]

also ignore honk

they're suggesting a monitor 3x the price

[royal forge]

Hi boss I hong from New it technology enterprise lazada, regarding u have purchased with us Galax rtx3090ti gpu, sorry for inform this model currently out of stock now do u mind to change to another model available? 🙏

U motherfuckers

Then why have it available

Now he's offerin 3090ti at 6.6k

[modest moss]

what are they offering instead?

[royal forge]

Gimme a mo

[modest moss]

how much was the other?

[royal forge]

colorful rtx 3090ti nb rm 6299.90
colorful rtx 3090 ti Vulcan rm 6999.90
INNO3D GeForce RTX 3090 Ti X3 OC 24GB GDDR6X rm6699.90
GAINWARD GEFORCE RTX3090 TI PHANTOM / 24GB DDR6X / BASE 1560MHZ, BOOST 1785MHZ CORE CLOCK / 3Y WARRANTY / rm6499.90

The galax is 3090ti is 5800

[jaunty light]

aoi are you still on about this

[royal forge]

I bought it

[modest moss]

read better honk

[royal forge]

Now they're tellin me no stock

[modest moss]

he ordered one, they just said it's OOS

[jaunty light]

first of all if you get an email like this, immediately ask for a refund then tell them to fuck off

[real edge]

are they offering a replacement without you having to pay?

[jaunty light]

do I need to fly over to malaysia

[royal forge]

No. They're offerin a replacement at higher cost

[jaunty light]

this 5 foot motherfucker buck twenty sopping wet "hong" is no match for me

I will break him in half

[jaunty light]

charge back

first rule of buying anything pay in CC only and chargeback when needed

[royal forge]

I'll just get a refund

What do you guys think

[jaunty light]

refund

you live in the wild west, just get a refund

[royal forge]

Shue, Nhdala?

[jaunty light]

they are trying to scam you

[modest moss]

sounds like a bait and switch, the inno3d and gainward are probably fine, they're reputable brands just not top tier

they just want more money

[royal forge]

Then fuck em

[modest moss]

question is what can you get elsewhere

[royal forge]

Other 3090tis are 7 or 8k

Im out searhin

But i've asked for a refund

[modest moss]

gainward is owned by palit, so not trash

[royal forge]

To force their hand

[jaunty light]

do u not have like, legit retailers anywhere to buy from

[royal forge]

Im not payin even more

[royal forge]

This IS the """legit""" retailer

[jaunty light]

if i had an interaction like that in the US I would break legs and also fuck them over legally

which I have done before

damn SEA is fucked up

[royal forge]

I'll just decline and tell em to shove it

[modest moss]

I'd try telling them you'd take the gainward at no extra cost maybe

[real edge]

refund

[royal forge]

Cancelled

Refunded

Time for a hunting

[jaunty light]

is haggling a common thing where you at?

[real edge]

unsubbed

unfollowed

[royal forge]

Yes

I lost out on a cheaper 3090ti cuz i didnt pull the trigger fasg enough

Might have also been a bait

[jaunty light]

cuz maybe you just needa be firm, tell them to suck your dick and give you the 3090 Ti at that price, otherwise your muscle from the US (me) will break them in half

[royal forge]

Lmao

Nah. Just cancelled

[jaunty light]

I will cut them up with a lineoleum knife

[royal forge]

Kill em with paper cuts

[hard drift]

i have a bunch of those

[royal forge]

Time to go back hunting

[jaunty light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWvt3E5a-AA

[royal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nelson-simpsons-the-hunt-is-gif-5437418

[modest moss]

I don't even think you need a 3090ti personally

[jaunty light]

you can buy my 3090 if I get a 4090 before you can get anything

[modest moss]

you make anime tiddies occasionally, you're a casual hobbyist

[jaunty light]

bro shue you wouldnt believe this nerd we had earlier

[modest moss]

I probably would

[jaunty light]

he got banned so i cant see his messages but deadass came into our tech channel and started shitting on people for any new tech they had because consumerism

went on a whole rant about how consumerism is the root of evil and suffering

complained about corporate propaganda as the reason anyone buys GPUs or any new tech

[modest moss]

should have invited him here

[jaunty light]

wait its still there

[modest moss]

to a degree he has a point

[royal forge]

3080ti then?

12GB VRAM

[royal forge]

And i PROBABLY save 1k?

[modest moss]

1k over the 6500 3090ti?

[jaunty light]

idk about that boss you need to be actually blind to say 1080 and 4k have no difference visually

[hard drift]

true 🙏

[royal forge]

3080ti for 4.8k

I THINK

[jaunty light]

theres a difference between being a tactful consumer and just someone that goes for specsheets

[royal forge]

A zotac

[modest moss]

well yeah that's true, but the majority of people would be happy with their hardware longer if we didn't create such hype

[real edge]

1K for a 3080ti is too much money

[jaunty light]

i mean hype beasting is a scourge I can agree with, but his basis of reasoning is flawed

dude was just being a contrarian to be one

[real edge]

1k euro that is

[royal forge]

Unsure.

Its still 4.8k MYR

[jaunty light]

he lost us when he was like "my system is 900 bucks and its the only thing you need" followed with "1080p and 4k are no difference" then "you cant see the difference between lower and higher framerates" like.. bro

[modest moss]

yeah he's gone off the deep end there

[royal forge]

Should I wait for them to restock?

[jaunty light]

I'm a half alcoholic and I can still tell the difference between 144 240 and 360hz

[modest moss]

they won't restock

[jaunty light]

they won't

[royal forge]

Ye...

Lemme stew a bit

This is.. quite a pickle. Ngl

Fuck it 4090

[jaunty light]

knowing where u Live I'd just opt for nuclear option every time

i have 0 patience for business in US to try and fuck me around

[modest moss]

you should research import duties and shit

[royal forge]

Ye. The only concern is warranties

And shipping costs

At this point, everything ELSE but the GPU is gonna arrive

[modest moss]

at least your 13600k will have onboard gpu for now

[royal forge]

Ye

There is this.. colorful 3090ti for 500 more

So 6.2k

[modest moss]

how much 3d work do you actually do?

like if you're just gaming and doing small projects, a 3080 will be enough

[royal forge]

I have a friend doin a similar.. uh.. hobby

They find the 3090 does quite a diff

[jaunty light]

I need 8k VR anime tiddy and JAV

[modest moss]

maybe worth asking if they can discount one of the other cards for the inconvenience

[royal forge]

Ye..

Tryin to

[jaunty light]

tell them you're a malay navy seal with over 300 confirmed kills

[modest moss]

I'm reading that colorful aren't bad, but I'd never heard of them

[royal forge]

colorful rtx 3090ti nb rm 6299.90
colorful rtx 3090 ti Vulcan rm 6999.90
INNO3D GeForce RTX 3090 Ti X3 OC 24GB GDDR6X rm6699.90
GAINWARD GEFORCE RTX3090 TI PHANTOM / 24GB DDR6X / BASE 1560MHZ, BOOST 1785MHZ CORE CLOCK / 3Y WARRANTY / rm6499.90

[modest moss]

@hard drift

heard of colorful?

[jaunty light]

this is just an east vs west thing

[royal forge]

Im debatin askin for either the colorful 6300 or the gainward

[jaunty light]

colorful is a longstanding brand

[hard drift]

yeah

[modest moss]

gainward being owned by palit is quite reassuring

[royal forge]

Im askin for a discount for either

[modest moss]

3yr warranty is decent too

[royal forge]

This is a smack in the balls

[real edge]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-headpats-gif-24091506

[royal forge]

Right. Im askin. We'll see

Ice, how much is a 3090ti there

I dont see it much cheaper on amazon

Ooof. Quite pricey too

[real edge]

6600 here in greece

ringgit

[royal forge]

Das p ex too..

Pretty par the cost tbh

Im askin for a discount. So... lets hope then

Kinda pooped out since i was travellin

[modest moss]

I bet he can't

[royal forge]

Imma chill a bit

[real edge]

im not looking forward to picking my gpu when the time comes

everythings expensive here

[modest moss]

Greece, the SEA of EU

[royal forge]

[modest moss]

would I pair a 4090 with an i5, idk

[royal forge]

Do i like melting cables

[hard drift]

depends on the resolution

[modest moss]

they're looking at 2x 1440p I think

[hard drift]

then no

that resolution will still be cpu bound usually

[royal forge]

Im 3090 huntin nw

I see one for the same price of that original 3090ti

[modest moss]

afaik the 3090ti isn't drastically better than 3090

[royal forge]

Ok

Aint MUCH cheaper

It was.. 5.7 prev

So 100 more

Ti

[real edge]

to tis for extra TI

[royal forge]

Ti ti for tittiessss

THAT I SHALL RENDER

Lemme ask the clown

If there is actually stock

[bitter girder]

No

Boobies

Actually no

I didn’t even read what you said

[modest moss]

yeah I mean if you can get that for just 100 more, probably worth it

[bitter girder]

Chip chip

Moo moo

[modest moss]

bunbun

[bitter girder]

Actually crazy there’s so many languages I didn’t know about

Don’t*

Sounds like an anime

[royal forge]

Claims open box new

The inno3d official store is offerin 5.4k for 3090

Ye

[bitter girder]

I keep forgetting inno3d exists

[royal forge]

colorful rtx 3090ti nb rm 6099.90
colorful rtx 3090 ti Vulcan rm 6799.90
GAINWARD GEFORCE RTX3090 TI PHANTOM / 24GB DDR6X / BASE 1560MHZ, BOOST 1785MHZ CORE CLOCK / 3Y WARRANTY / rm6299.90

Alright lads

What do you think

[real edge]

same seller?

smells like classic bait and switch

[royal forge]

Hmm..

Shall i go for a 3090 if i can get it arnd the prev price?

[royal forge]

Same

Probably

Its what scares me abt the other components

But the others are more... reasonably priced?

[real edge]

you have most of em

gpu is the only thing remaining

[royal forge]

Ye

Heres to hoping the others dont run out of stock too

I'l watch a bit

Gonna call it a night. A bit pooped

[real edge]

it will be ok

[royal forge]

Im nt sure if i shud trust this

Shud i? Thats QUITE a steal

[real edge]

can you refund it if its a dud or not as advertised?

[royal forge]

Lemme ask him

I also dunoe how to know if the thing has been used before or not

[real edge]

open it up and check its thermal paste

does shoppe have good protection against duds?

[royal forge]

What would i expect?

[royal forge]

Not really

[real edge]

if the thermal paste looks freshly applied or new

then its new

if its old or looks crusty, or it barely exists then its old

[royal forge]

Ok

I've asked him to confirm if its really unused at all

[real edge]

if its open box he should be able to confirm

[modest moss]

what's the inno3d warranty on the 3090 from official store?

[royal forge]

Im tappin out now. A bit tired. I'll have to check if inno3D is any good

[modest moss]

they're fine

mid range brand

[royal forge]

Thank you but i dont wnat the hassle

[modest moss]

I'd lean towards the official store if good warranty

[royal forge]

Gimme a mo on the warranty

[modest moss]

3090 is still 24gb vram and a monster

[royal forge]

3 years

[modest moss]

https://www.geekawhat.com/nvidia-rtx-3090-vs-nvidia-rtx-3090ti-what-is-the-difference/

not a massive difference but ti uses a ton more power

[royal forge]

Im also gettin sex dolls in my recommendations

[fair parcel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/684161616324853813/973162302901719110/mayonaise.gif

[royal forge]

So i might as well splurge

[fair parcel]

new paste is ez

[modest moss]

think I might go official inno3d store 3090, you'd save a bit of cash and have peace of mind

[royal forge]

Nah. Shoppe

[royal forge]

I think i'd agree

Lemme see if i can hear back on that 3090ti and msi open box one

If not, i'll pull the trigger on the colorful

[modest moss]

you mean inno3d 3090, surely

[royal forge]

Ahnye

Ah ye*

Brain

No good

Sleepy

[modest moss]

go sleep doc

[royal forge]

Thanks

Night gang

Thanks a bunch for the help

[real edge]

good night

[modest moss]

laters

[royal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-bed-gif-26205495

[dull garnet]

Oh dear, gf back at it

[bitter girder]

Dm me all angles

[odd sand]

Gotta do a headshot of only the headphones /s

[modest moss]

speedy's gf - ✋

his right hand

[real edge]

I've always found it funny how I know all of this shit about tech and all sorts of trivia and knowledge but I have never plugged a GPU into a PSU before in my life

that is ridiculous

no

[bitter girder]

LMAO

[real edge]

I've played too many map games to not know that by now

[bitter girder]

Present

It’s me

Currently in a box can you get someone to put a battery bank in here my phones about to die

[real edge]

tbf my school was a tiny public school

nothing I learned there helped me with anything

they did not teach us about that dude

and idk why I would care about him even if they did so even if they taught us I probably forgot out of disinterest

[bitter girder]

The shit my primary school taught me about the big man

I have a laughing fit about it sometimes

[real edge]

it was a technical school

where every1 chose art or computer because they wanted to slack off

as for tiny

I do not remember how many per class

but it was a small public school

I used to go to a private school when I was 10 but my family fell into financial disarray so they threw me into a small public school

I'd rather not talk about my past, I was too fucking stupid back then

[deep sapphire]

You?

[bitter girder]

Ahahahahahahaha

Real

[devout nexus]

@tame fulcrum naw cant ship to malaysia 😛

[torpid kayak]

I tried to make a post in tech-support but can't for some reasons. Anyway, I suffer from this game-crashing error https://i.imgur.com/2bs8iAF.png
It happens when I tried to log in Eye of Creator (Savage) and in the cutscene when I meet Thordan for the first time. I cannot progress the game now

[hard drift]

also if that doesn't work use quicklauncher and verify files

!faq quicklauncher

[opal panther]

**Official Launcher Giving you Trouble on Updates?**

Try these alternative 3rd party launchers.

For Windows:

https://goatcorp.github.io/

For Mac OS:

https://www.xivmac.com/

For Linux:

https://flathub.org/apps/details/dev.goats.xivlauncher

Alternative cross-platform:

https://github.com/eorzeatools/microlaunch
(developed by rin#3487 - contact them for help)

Please read all the documentation and guides for these launchers before requesting assistance.

Do note that these programs, like ACT, are technically against TOS. Treat them like Fight Club, and don't be rude while using them.

Please note no staff have tested the Mac, Linux and cross-platform launchers so use at your own discretion.

[bitter girder]

Did not know those type of batteries could even do fast charging

That’s pretty cool

[torpid kayak]

launcher told me some files may get corrupted. What to do?

[hard drift]

may get corrupted or that there are some that are corrupted?

because it should check/repair them

[torpid kayak]

well the checker told me files get corrupted and if I don't use mod, I should run repair

well I use mods so what to do 🤔

[hard drift]

just repair 😐 you can always reinstall mods

[torpid kayak]

ah ok

[sly elk]

the caveat with fast charge rechargables is the same as usual - fast chargers wear the battery out faster lol

[bitter girder]

I can wear you out faster

[royal forge]

Top of the mornin

Both sellers have yet to replt

Reply*

Imma just chill a bit and give am a chance

[deep sapphire]

GOOD OL DDP

awful

I still have my Phenom 64 case badge on

That fucker is so faded

@hard drift

hair

[royal forge]

Ye prices whack

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/fulcrum-fulcrum-come-in-faded-than-a-ho-yodieland-yodie-gang-gif-26985593

[deep sapphire]

dude is on a bus

thats almost as sad as someone who watches vtubers

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/selen-tatsuki-explain-skill-issue-selen-tatsuki-explains-selen-gif-24343430

[royal forge]

YEP

Thats the fucked up part

Why else am i eyein the 5.3k 3090ti

8+k for a 4090 will nuke my budget

And drastically alter my build

Im also waitin for @hot shadow to be my frontman/lady to sell my smut

She can do a sakimichan

Everyone will be like

HURRR GIRL MAKE SMUT

Wait no

She'll be the true american

She'll outsource her job to SEA

[hot shadow]

why have i been summoned to a strange land

[royal forge]

Im talkin abt u fulfillin the american dream

Of outsourcing your job to asia

But its actually a reverse

[hard drift]

run from this strange land while you can

[royal forge]

Nono

She has to watch me meltdown over gpus again

[hot shadow]

is there like a way i can light my whole pc case up without installing 493024902 rgb bars

i have like a single one and it's so dark lmao and no rgb fan at all

oh

ok ill consider fanz

[hard drift]

get an arduino and setup a bunch of pixels

[modest moss]

MY HOUSE BISH

[hot shadow]

i dont know how to arduino or raspberry pi but it seems neat

i thought about the screen thing too

[deep sapphire]

it'll rust out

like all toyota trucks

I dunno but im pretty much telling them to fuck off and buying a silverado

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

weeb

[jaunty light]

Tell that to ice and his massive hentai collection right there

[deep sapphire]

not as big as yours

[jaunty light]

0 bytes of hentai for me

[real edge]

we're gonna need dp 2.0 or hdmi 2.1 in order for monitors to advance to the next level

[sly elk]

you can also buy the fancy fans and drive them from an arduino/rasberrypi

the only catch here is you can't control the ram LEDs that way

[royal forge]

Ok

Physically went to a store

Colorful 3090ti for 5.8k

I dont think i should risk the "new but opened box" msi 3090 ti

Ye. Risky eh?

Its 5.3k

How doesnt this look sus

[sly elk]

I haven't been too impressed with gaming hardware quality

[royal forge]

Ye. Daslts why

Dats why

[sly elk]

like from watching /r/pcmasterrace it seems like a GPU lasting more than 5 years is uncommon lol

[royal forge]

It sounds fuckin sus

[sly elk]

I really hope that's not the case

but the utter shit firmware and with stuff like those janky 12v adapters

i'm kinda not surprised

[royal forge]

So i think i'll play it safe

Ye

Im lining up 2 offers

I THINK galax is better

[jaunty light]

pcmr people got that sweet 2iq

[real edge]

my current gpu is 6 years old at this point

im sure the current ones can last just as much

[modern iris]

My 1070 lasted me 5 years

But the 10 series was OP

[jaunty light]

wait u mean viability or age lol

my 4850 and 6950 still work!

[real edge]

I have a 1070

viability wise the 1070 still has a year or two left in the tank

[sly elk]

yea i think they just kamikaze overclock their old gpu to have an excuse to buy a new one lol

my classic advice for overclocking gpus is to watch a dark game/video while overclocking, and if you start seeing artifacts you've gone too far lol

[real edge]

depends on what you can perceive

and the type of game

higher fps or hz means the game or windows is smoother

go for the highest hz your monitor can support

no reason not to

can you perceive the difference? and hdr on most current pc monitors is shit

what you can perceive is important here

but 144hz is sth I think you should go to

100 is weird

[royal forge]

OK

Colorful 3090ti 5730

I can collect it in person

And transport it back

Myself

Lets do it then, ye?

[real edge]

well whatever the highest is

[royal forge]

Rather than the stress of waitin for the idiot to check his stock

But rather the pure stress of transporting it back i guess

[real edge]

1200 is over what I would personally spend on a gpu but

[jaunty light]

anyone do a review on ur monitor ice

[real edge]

if you like the 24gb vram

[royal forge]

Ye. But i'd like the vram

[jaunty light]

just wait til people do color tests at 8 and 10bit if it doesnt have DSC for higher refresh

[royal forge]

And it pairs with the 13600k imo

[jaunty light]

inb4 6bit+frc

[real edge]

60hz vs 165 is a bigger difference in feel

than 144 vs 240

imo'

as someone who had all 3 levels

[royal forge]

FUCK SAKE

Blue ballin sonofabitch

Lemme just get the inno 3090

Ye?

Ye

I see a seller has a msi 3090 gaming x trio for 5.4k

I think i should just get that

Rather than go nuts tryin to find a 3090ti

What do ya think

[real edge]

take a moment to step back and breathe

[royal forge]

Ye. Im just

Sigh

Online i see it

Ye

Im just.. ugh. Exhausted

YEP

Fuckin scummy aint they

They were offerin for 5730

Its 6450

Im trying to get it 5.7

I will

No stock either

[real edge]

every time I look at one of those chatlogs it feels like I am missing something

might be the at times broken english

[royal forge]

Basically

Website says yes

Sales says no

[sly elk]

hahahaha

someone gave LGR a wood keyboard

because of course lol

[royal forge]

Shall I just go for the inno3d?

Its the official store

https://shopee.com.my/product/359469761/16920612376?smtt=0.206572095-1668238995.9

Should i just go for it?

Inb4 no stock

I'll go for it. I think

It beats just goin mad over this

I swear its all a front

Im chasing the same fuckin card.

But diff people

[real edge]

the 3090ti does have more performance than the 3090 for sure, but not that much in retrospect

ur not gonna be missing much

[royal forge]

I should just get it

[dreamy chasm]

Listening to well mastered tracks on good iems feels so good

[real edge]

https://shopee.com.my/Galax-RTX-3090-TI-Ti-EX-Gamer-1-Click-OC-24GB-GDDR6X-Nvidia-GeForce-RTX3090-Ti-1-Click-24G-D6X-Graphic-Card-(RTX3090TI)-i.12866300.23803865577?sp_atk=c9795b0b-da7f-4b04-9ff5-c73050c2a0fe&xptdk=c9795b0b-da7f-4b04-9ff5-c73050c2a0fe is this one of the ones you checked out?

[royal forge]

@real edge

[real edge]

ohh

[royal forge]

6.7k

I just paid for the 3090

If they dont have it

I swear to the gods

I shall have @deep sapphire drive his truck through many stores

[real edge]

shopee is the bait and switch holy land

[sly elk]

how long does it take to get your money back?

this doesn't look right

oh it's supposed to look like that nvm

admittedly I crank my settings down because I hate having too much gpu noise

[royal forge]

Feels like it

https://tenor.com/view/praisejesus-gif-24758869

[real edge]

upgrade?

we actually have inno3D in greece

they are one of the cheap brands here

along with zotac usually

[sly elk]

cheap doesn't necessarily mean bad though

i guess it depends on power delivery

[royal forge]

Im just happy i got one

What a ...

[dreamy chasm]

A lot of the cheaper cards skimp out in places

[royal forge]

Clusterfuck?

[dreamy chasm]

Just depends on the sku

[royal forge]

SHHHHH

[dreamy chasm]

It shouldn't matter for the most part

[royal forge]

Im celebrating being able to buy a card

[dreamy chasm]

[royal forge]

5 sellers

All claimin to sell

Then NOT having it

[real edge]

[royal forge]

Small mercies

[real edge]

what is next on the aoi computer saga? find out on the next episode

[royal forge]

YOU YOU SHUSH

DONT U JINX ME

[real edge]

jokes aside I am happy you have computer finally

[dreamy chasm]

They somehow bend the pcie slot

They don't ship to the states

I'm pretty sure

Fair enough

[real edge]

im waiting for the 4080 12gb and 4080 16gb and the amd xt and xtx cards to get released in a month or so

and compare everything and price

then ill be dead still because amd gpu drivers suck and nvidia prices are sky high

[dreamy chasm]

Amd drivers are a lot better than they used to be

I'm p sure

[real edge]

the xtx card looks very nice

10% worse than the 4090 for 700$ less

[dreamy chasm]

We're past the gcn/1st gen rdna driver days, anyways

[royal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-chant-cheer-gif-10693770

[dreamy chasm]

There aren't that many complaints about rdna 2 drivers for the most part

From what I've noticed

[real edge]

@lost python had problems with hardware acceleration and VR, I do not use VR but I do use hardware acceleration on chrome for granblue fantasy

[dreamy chasm]

I see

[real edge]

in games supposedly its good tho

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

Plus, amd's selling 6600xts for 250 bucks when 3060s are still going for a significant amount more

Same story goes for the other price segments

They'll probably be pushing the price angle just as hard this gen

[real edge]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yszd2h/amd_driver_timeout_solution_turn_off_hardware/

90% of peoples purchases go right

everything that you see on the internet are a disgruntled minority for the most part

negativity wise with tech I mean

I once bought a monitor from amazon and it got shipped here from france

faster than most local shops

[royal forge]

Oh shit

I forgot

Shoud i get a antisag pole

[sly elk]

you fuckin did it

hell yea

[jaunty light]

ive got a big pole for you

[sly elk]

probably half of it is the stand

well

1/4 box, 1/2 stand, 1/4 monitor

the boxes for the ultrawides are.. substantial

not apple level of substantial though

[royal forge]

Use it on the 5 sellers who gave me the run around

Shove it right up

[sly elk]

good luck

who did they ship it through?

also don't you have a house?!

does it not have its own street number?!

but still?

out here townhouses have their own street addresses

condos don't

I suppose it depends on the development but everywhere i've been that is the case, anyway

anyway, do you receive enough packages through that delivery company?

that works

a lot of places i've lived had a route that was so reliable it always had the same mail person and ups driver and stuff

at my current residence there's a good amount of churn lol

sometimes i'll see the same dude for a few weeks and then they disappear or get assigned a different route

[royal forge]

L M A O

A store told me everyone is changing to 4090 now

OK buddy

[real edge]

with what money?

[royal forge]

Ikr

[real edge]

the only reason I am changing my 1070 is fear that its gonna die

its old and has seen daily use since I bought it

6 years of daily use

[bitter girder]

HE DID IT

[sly elk]

6 years old is ok for a daily driver card

like seriously

my bro's computer has my old gtx 660 lmao

he plays emulators and old games on it and it runs fine

i'd build him something better but it still works and he doesn't come close to pushing it

[lost python]

VR has been fixed with newest drivers thankfully

[sly elk]

well, that and giving him a windows computer is a pain in the butt. that computer isn't running windows. if I built a new one I'd have to find a radeon

[bitter girder]

Such a classic card

[modest moss]

@royal forge you about? I need a doctor

not for medical advice, just to settle a debate

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/Jebisabigfatmes/status/1591129249775222797

Chairman Jeb! 🥑🌃🔰👏 (@Jebisabigfatmes)

There's one dude running a 4770k + 4090, absolute chad

Likes

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Twitter · Nov 11, 2022, 6:02 PM

https://twitter.com/Jebisabigfatmes/status/1591203178988859392

Chairman Jeb! 🥑🌃🔰👏 (@Jebisabigfatmes)

A challenger appears

Twitter · Nov 11, 2022, 10:56 PM

[livid dune]

can they even play modern games with that?

[modest moss]

probably

[void dove]

yes, but will be severely CPU bound, on a lot of games

[jaunty light]

1fps

[royal forge]

Shoot

What do ya need

Oi @modest moss

[hard drift]

[jaunty light]

@modest moss did u die because it was actually a medical emergency

F to shue, 1949-2022

[hard drift]

[modest moss]

so... when you have a heart attack, your heart stops for a bit, right?

does that make you technically dead, temporarily?

[jaunty light]

which side of this r u on shue

u dont need a heart to be alive

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfDq5dlp2o4 no fucking way this exists

I don't even use Excel

[jaunty light]

what a nerd

what does the spreadsheet say about your crippling addiction to watercooling parts

yeah you did

pop that booty

disgusting react user

[hard drift]

Ice going to startup the extra contracts for that 4090

[sharp star]

I can't believe I'm watching this

[royal forge]

Uhhhhhhhhh

Not exactly

A myocardial infarction, commonly called a heart attack is when a patient's heart gets insufficient blood

Ischaemia means lack of blood

Infarct is lack of blood and the tissue dies

The heart still beats

But its rhythm is disrupted or it's contraction power is reduced

Asystole, means a complete heart stop

That happens in VERY severe cases of shock. One of which, is cardiogenic shock, which is when the heart really shits the bed

Are they dead? Ehhhhh technicaly, hard to define

But a heart stopping is one of the signs to indicate death

Others are, no spontaneous breathing, pupils dilated