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royal forge
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it isn't?

jaunty light
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IPA smells so fucking bad after it dries

royal forge
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I thought IPA was alcohol

sly elk
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well both kinds are alcohol

royal forge
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true

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but ya know

sly elk
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yea it's context dependent

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I've heard isopropyl alcohol referred to as IPA enough times to think of that first haha

royal forge
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there are SO many of those in medical terms

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like one like of short form could mean something else entirely

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in a different field

sly elk
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can say space has a ton of stupid abbrevs too

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plus we have the lovely gov project ones where someone names something awkwardly to have a cool acronym

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hahahahonda

jaunty light
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i mean

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you can drink both kinds of IPA

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one, only once

sly elk
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idk if it's still true with honda

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but I remember when you could take a pic with the flash on a honda all-black interior

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and the seats would be like

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5 different shades of black

royal forge
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LIKE NEW

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LIKE FUCKING NEW

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water cooled 3090

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10k

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water cooled 4090 for 9.3

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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS MARKET

sly elk
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^ what could possibly go wrong

royal forge
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Damn

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puttin ur life on that piece of metal not being shitty?

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RIP

sly elk
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a wise person on reddit once said you should always splurge on the things that sit between you and the ground (like your bed and shoes)

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a wiser person on discord said you should always splurge on the things that hold other things up above you

royal forge
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ye i was gonna say

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XD

sly elk
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the thing that kills me is the way they name things

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it's just like they keep throwing more words at the item

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ALSO WHY CANT THEY JUST GIVE WAIST SIZES IN CM OR SOMETHING

royal forge
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is this taobao?

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or aliexpress?

sly elk
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nah aliexpress

royal forge
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cuz

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i mean

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It's AliE

sly elk
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they actually do put the size in cm

royal forge
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what do you expect?

sly elk
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i'm kinda digging those pants

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but they're only 35" 😦

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hmmm

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admittedly if I did cosplay enkidu

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the top would probably fit fine regardless, I could just buy random white pants and call it a day

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but also

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err anwyay

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yea having a cabinet all the wayup like that would worry me a bit

jaunty light
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just wearing motorcycle gloves because?

sly elk
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lol

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idk either

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they sell fake noctua haha

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WTF

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????

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did you at least drill the screws into studs

royal forge
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hey @tame fulcrum time for an upgrade

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700 USD 4090

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not sus at all

sly elk
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nothing says quality like T.F.SKYWINDINTL

royal forge
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IT'S FAST

sly elk
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there's always IWONGOU

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these things don't have enough power

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ah perfect

royal forge
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why are you guys looking at electronics on fucking AliE

sly elk
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for laughs

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i wonder what happens if you plug it into a 110v power source

royal forge
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holy shit, this PSU has mandarin mao bi on it.

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i mean, maybe spare parts

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but

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actual products?

sly elk
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TFDP

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i like how the psu has a picture of what will happen if you use it

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literally blazing

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OH

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I found the good shit

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the one where they sharpie-on the label with the wattage

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those are the best

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so what's the difference between the 1300w and the 2000w? Well they sharpied down there instead. Obviously. šŸ˜„

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OHHH

jaunty light
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skywindintl?

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THE FUCK SKYWINDINTL *

royal forge
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SKYWINDINTERNATIONAL

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BUT THEY RAN OUTA SPACE

sly elk
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i kinda want that

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ā¤ļø

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gonna build a waifu pc?

jaunty light
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gibs me X3D procs and a 4090 so i can make water loop

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then it will spill everwhere and destroy hardware!

jaunty light
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need ddr5 fill sticks!

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i thought about doing an ice and getting a 7600x until an x3d 7000 comes out so i can do a half loop with 3090 but tbh too pain of ass to build a loop then have to disassemble later

sharp star
sly elk
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vinyl decal for like $20?

jaunty light
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star ocean? stone ocean? who knows!

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phantasy star!

sly elk
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birb

jaunty light
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@deep sapphire

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went and backordered the pg27aqn.. really hoping its good

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much as id like a miniled i thought mm I've dealt with it this long I can probably deal without if I can do high refresh

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guessing ill be spoiled by this benq though. zero ghosting and nearly imperceptible motion clarity issues with the strobing on

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in other news, I opened another of the same deschutes over the sink and it fucking exploded again

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i am gonna send them an angry email!

bitter girder
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I sent Asus an angry email

jaunty light
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asus doesnt have customer service, you sent that into a black hole

bitter girder
royal forge
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doxed

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LEWIS

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I KNOW EVERYTHING

bitter girder
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o7

odd sand
bitter girder
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Now I've been doxxed

jaunty light
jaunty light
bitter girder
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She's cute

odd sand
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I can't remember if the tea spitting is an edit or actually happened in the show

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She's from a series called GJ-bu

bitter girder
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She did it

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Gj bu is so boring

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I just liked her as a character

jaunty light
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time to go to jail

sharp star
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIKjZ1djp8c babes wake up we got more fires

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royal forge
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AND ON THIS DAY TECH JESUS COMETH

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AND SO DID I

bitter girder
real edge
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got the x3d for 334euro, it was a massive holiday when I ordered it so nothing happened with the order yet, I hope it doesn't get cancelled or anything, cause the price has increased since I ordered it :x

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so this was the lowest point

royal forge
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I'm looking at a 3090 with an intel CPU for my build. Aim is mainly for gaming as well as 3D rendering (the reason why I want 24GB vram rather than 10gb as well as better 3D perf)

My budget is around 10k, but I don't think that would be achievable. Is that right?

What is the general consensus regarding DDR 4 or 5 RAM?

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This was what I posted on my local forum

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RTX 3090 with DDR5 at RM10k. Maybe... next 12 months (next year is 2 months). And no, 24GB isnt better than 10GB. 16GB will last you some time, 12GB.... maybe.

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I get this for a reply

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24GB isnt better than 10GB

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wut

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I LITERALLY said i want it for more Vram

real edge
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I will help

real edge
royal forge
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but

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im being gaslit right?

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like

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And no, 24GB isnt better than 10GB. 16GB will last you some time, 12GB.... maybe.

real edge
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its better to do your own research

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what physics sims?

royal forge
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ye, from what I read, 3D rendering benefits from more vram

royal forge
real edge
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ohh blender

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oof

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that needs a meaty cpu

royal forge
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i thought about going for a current gen

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but it seems there's not THAT big a diff?

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at least, not yet?

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i wasn't sure if DDR 5 was worth it yet

real edge
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blender is used as a stress tester for cpus

royal forge
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lol

real edge
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ryzen seems to be good in blender

royal forge
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tbh, the only reason im jumping to intel is the PTSD from this laptop

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with the shitting-the-bed AMD chip

real edge
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I've been using an amd cpu since the 2700x release and I've been fine

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the only problem that appeared, I simply had to downclock my ram to fix

royal forge
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yea. but u know my luck with tech

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also @deep sapphire has been brainwashing me

real edge
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amd desktop cpus are good for the most part

royal forge
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i'll look around a bit more and i'll come back with build ideas for you guys to look at

deep sapphire
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No they aren’t

royal forge
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Is DDR 5 worth the jump?

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i cannot seem to find a consensus

real edge
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ehhhh

deep sapphire
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Yes

real edge
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its cheaper now

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but intel supports ddr4

deep sapphire
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Just buy it and be done with it

royal forge
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ye. but is there such a big speed diff?

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HANK IM NOT SOME RICH BOI LIKE YOU K

real edge
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just go cheap until ddr5 gets bigger and better

deep sapphire
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I’m not even rich

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Anyways back to bed gn

real edge
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ddr4 is dirt cheap now

royal forge
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nite nite

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gn Hank

deep sapphire
royal forge
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Is it halloween tomorrow?

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SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKY

deep sapphire
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Yessir

real edge
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but yea amd desktop cpus are good, no problems from me, satisfactory performance

royal forge
real edge
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if you are gonna go with intel there is no upgrade path for the most part

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but

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am5 is bad right now

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poor price to performance

royal forge
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oo

real edge
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its tricky for me to recommend a definite cpu tbh

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there are cheap options for sure

deep sapphire
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Ah fuck it I’m gonna go get breakfast

real edge
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if you wanna cheapen out and get something decent for workloads

deep sapphire
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Intel

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Be done with it

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Stop overthinking

real edge
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then the 3950x is cheap

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cheap platform, cheap cpu

royal forge
deep sapphire
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Ew

real edge
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decent workload performance due to the number of cores

deep sapphire
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7:33

royal forge
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early enough Hank

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go get a bfast

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from mcd

real edge
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not great in games nowdays tho

royal forge
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ah. but mainly gaming PC tho

real edge
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ohh hm

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basically

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amd is cheap and good at workloads, decent at games

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intel is expensive but is good at both

royal forge
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but both dont offer a good upgrade path while still offering a good work/performance

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right?

real edge
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right now? no, there is no ceiling to both

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only am5 and am5 is out of the question

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too expensive

royal forge
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Bother

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and I was hoping this was good PC building time

real edge
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its anything but, sadly

royal forge
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guess i'll wait... again.

real edge
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cheap options do exist tho

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you can get a 3950x or something used for cheap

royal forge
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ye.. true

real edge
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am4 is cheap and has no ceiling, intel is expensive and better but has no ceiling

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am5 has a big ceiling but is too expensive to consider

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the 3090 is cheap nowdays tho, used

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new is expensive still

royal forge
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ye

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but used

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always a risk

real edge
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depends on your budget and local prices

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do you have a price checker website?

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I can check

royal forge
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its ok

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i can skim around prices by browsing local sellers

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cuz i dont have a price checker

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it's all third party small stores

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so i would approach each individually with my price list and ask for quotations

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and negotiate from there

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it's like tendering a project

real edge
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I see

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so no website where you can insert the product name and get a list of prices from most sellers

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sadge

royal forge
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nope

real edge
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try getting prices for these cpus here

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no 7xxx ryzen

deep sapphire
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Look what AMD did to you already

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Buy once cry once

real edge
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amd desktop cpus are fine, I am living proof that they work fine, idk about laptop ones shrug

deep sapphire
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No they aren’t in living proof of the same

real edge
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wat

hard drift
deep sapphire
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My Phenom II rig was a pile of shit

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And had tons of issues

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Never again

real edge
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how many years ago was that

deep sapphire
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Who cares

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Fuckin AMD defense force is the worst

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Why is Intel used for 99 percent of commerce

real edge
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phenom 2 was decades ago at this point

deep sapphire
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Because no company wants to bother with AMD

real edge
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I've been using my 2700x with no issues since release so, something clearly changed since then

deep sapphire
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Other than the horrible ram timing issues and being slow

real edge
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nah

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I use a 3466mhz kit

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and it was fast back when it was released

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now not anymore

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obviously

deep sapphire
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Let’s be real though, Intel not only prices the CPUs less, the platform is much less

real edge
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for am5 you have a point, but not for am4

deep sapphire
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And if anyone says ā€œfuture proofā€ I’m gonna grab my M18 Fuel nailer and jab you in the eye with it

hard drift
real edge
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am5 is overpriced but am4 is dirt cheap rn

deep sapphire
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Why buy old shit just buy new and be done with it

real edge
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because its cheap

hard drift
deep sapphire
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I know all about new okay

hard drift
deep sapphire
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Yeah cause I save my money

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I’m thrifty

hard drift
deep sapphire
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Truck runs fine

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It’s cool I fixed er up

hard drift
deep sapphire
royal forge
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I legit cant tell if Hank is meme-ing on Intel v AMD sometimes

hard drift
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Your truck is almost as bad as buying a ford now

royal forge
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and that doesn't look like a McD Hank

hard drift
deep sapphire
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Where you gonna find a 33 year old truck

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That starts every morning

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EXACTLY

deep sapphire
hard drift
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Okay now I’m leaving šŸ™

royal forge
deep sapphire
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Yeah WALK to work

royal forge
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damn

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How hank starts his car

hard drift
deep sapphire
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Based Fluke electrician tools

royal forge
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Apparently Igor was quite smug about his findings?

sharp star
deep sapphire
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our friendship hangs in the balance on your decision

potent arrow
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Rn I'm in the camp of

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"I pretend not to see it"

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And buying 3rd party cables

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There was literally no way I was going to be able to get away without a 90 degree connector in my cases lmfao

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Yep

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It's much more manageable

royal forge
sly elk
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What I see is

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Nvidia told us we better not make them look bad or they wont let us review their GPUs anymore

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So the I pretend to not see the problem thing

deep sapphire
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I thought we were friends

sharp star
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This is also part of why we pushed testing through ASAP. We were mid-testing as more and more negative pieces rolled out on the internet, none with real testing, and people were starting to accuse us of going soft when actually we just wanted real data before taking a stance.

potent arrow
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LMFAO I didn't see that second part

sharp star
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I like how there’s a handful of components that went up in flames over the past couple years

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maybe manufacturers should start advertising fire as a feature

potent arrow
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I find it hilarious

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Because ive spent the last 5 years of my life studying how to design electrical systems to not do this shit specifically

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And then the industry is doing all of this lol

sharp star
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fire safety may as well be an afterthought and we should all die I guess

sharp star
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I'm surprised all of that fit within the 32-character limit

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anyway I personally think that PC components should start having flame decals on them like fast cars because obviously we know that fire means it's fast

bitter girder
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its fermi just in a different light all over again

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so based

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doesnt intels new cpus run hot?

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yeah yeah i also just realised it aint as bad as whats going on here

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im half a sleep lacking cinnamon bun

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wholesome

modest moss
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lolwater

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air power

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pay enough for it

sharp star
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don’t you mean Gigabyte PSU

lime wasp
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Damnit.

Corsair doesn't make a White 120mm Radiator.....

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Though I suppose x2 360mm Radiators would be enough for a 3090 and 5800x

paper tusk
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I'm down for some dum juice

lime wasp
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Okay this is getting weird AF

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My comp cut out a few minutes after I said the thing about the radiators, and wouldn't boot back up.

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I looked at the error code and it apparently means something about the VGA?

Tried putting the GPU in the second PCIE slot and it didn't work.

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Tried putting my old GPU in the first slot instead and it booted up fine.

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Tried putting my new GPU back in and it booted.

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But now it goes and does the "Display Port no signal" thing every few minutes and then my comp goes all rainbow like it's stuck in boot up mode again but no picture.

sly elk
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welp

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what have I been saying about the 40 series

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I was speaking in response to the posts about fried 12vhpwr connectors

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you know it's possible the power management design is defective

sly elk
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so you're saying your comp isn't working right with the new gpu

paper tusk
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feels like slight understatement

modest moss
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sounds like the new gpu is knackered if the old one boots fine

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assuming it's plugged in and powered correctly

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no daisy chains etc

worldly bramble
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I have two 27" 2K monitors but I'm thinking of getting something larger. Probably two 32" monitors either 2K or 4K resolution with Nvidia g-sync. I'm also possibly thinking about just getting one of those large ultra wide monitors instead. I don't know if high refresh rate is that important for me as I play FFXIV 90% of the time. I'm curious if anyone has any comments or recommendations.

modest moss
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the monitor nerds in this channel are @real edge @tame fulcrum and @hard drift usually

lime wasp
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No, I have a new 3090 and my old one was a 3080.

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They were all setup properly.

hard drift
real edge
modest moss
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I'm delegating innit

worldly bramble
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I guess I'm trying to figure out what is possible before I decide how much I want to limit my budget to. I'm willing to save up if I think it's worth it.

real edge
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what you mention is a luxury

hard drift
real edge
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depending on how good your existing displays are

modest moss
hard drift
modest moss
worldly bramble
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Although I love the idea of three monitors I don't think I have the desk space for it even if two of them are vertical. šŸ˜”

modest moss
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I'd probably prefer width over height, but it depends what you're doing

modest moss
worldly bramble
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Right now I'm mostly gaming on one monitor while I have discord or the browser on the other monitor. Yes both monitors are horizontal next to each other.

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I could imagine definitely having one large monitor horizontal and a smaller monitor vertical but I'm pretty sure the lack of symmetry would drive me crazy after a while.

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That actually looks cool but my desk is not wide enough for that

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That's a good point, thanks

lime wasp
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Alright so figured out what the issue is.

Gotta crappy 3090.

bitter girder
lime wasp
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Worked fine for about 2 weeks but is now super overheating and killed itself.

bitter girder
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LG UltraGear 38GN950-B
i want her so bad

lime wasp
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Was able to play a whole match of MW2 on my 3080 sitting at 80* solid no issues.

Tried the 3090 again and even at the start of the match spiking to 90*. Quit the match and the screen is artifacting and the comp shuts down again.

burnt quiver
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ffxiv benchmark on ~$300 GPUs and ~$150 CPUs, maximum settings at four resolutions

GPU: Intel Arc LE A750 (sliders: 43 = 2850 mhz PROBABLY + +288mV offset + 225w power target)
CPU/RAM: i5-12490F, 3600 CL 16-18-18-39
1080p - 20617 avg 145.84 min 31
1440p - 15522 avg 106.61 min 32 (-24.71%)
1440uw - 11692 avg 80.41 min 30 (-24.67%)
2160p - 7806 avg 53.17 min 31 (-33.24%)

GPU: EVGA RTX 3060 XC (2085 mhz core + 8000mhz RAM + 180w power target)
CPU/RAM: i5-12490F, 3600 CL 16-18-18-39
1080p - 21801 avg 149.84 min 83
1440p - 15207 avg 102.5 min 58 (-30.25%)
1440uw - 11692 avg 79.34 min 46 (-23.11%)
2160p - 7430 avg 50.60 min 29 (-36.45%)

GPU: Sapphire RX6600 XT (2700mhz core + Fast Timing 105% speed RAM + 160w power target)
CPU/RAM: R5 5600, 3200mhz CL 16-18-18-38
1080p - 21229 avg 150.44 min 68
1440p - 14694 avg 100.27 min 69 nice (-30.78%)
1440uw - 11247 avg 76.94 min 49 (-23.46%)
2160p - 6786 avg 46.42 min 28 (-39.66%)

bitter girder
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mmmfff

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man i wish

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i paid that extra £400

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dude if the qd oled alienware was a 38 inch

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i'd then probably get it

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SHES GONE DOWN

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fuuckkk

worldly bramble
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I'll look into these suggestions. Thanks

bitter girder
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hard situation

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i hope lg will make an oled ultrawide soon

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its a hard one isnt it

burnt quiver
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is the AW3423DWF out yet

bitter girder
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yeah

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my mates got one

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wait

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theres a new one?

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or

burnt quiver
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the F version that doesn't have the gsync chip?

bitter girder
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o

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ah so it'll be cheaper

burnt quiver
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also quieter. the gsync chip requires a fan

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oh but it's 1400 cad nvm

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how much is the samsung G85SB in your region? same panel as the alienware

bitter girder
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really? the fuck

deep sapphire
burnt quiver
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also same panel as MSI MEG 342C

bitter girder
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cheap oleds

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mmm

deep sapphire
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good

burnt quiver
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damn

deep sapphire
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get fucked

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USA USA USA

bitter girder
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anyone else feel like utter shit after taking a nap

deep sapphire
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I always wake up sweaty

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I fuckin hate it

bitter girder
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i took 3 hours recoverying from it man

odd sand
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If you want to call 1200 dollars for an 80 class card msrp when they were 700 for the 30 series...

bitter girder
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PAIN

paper tusk
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In addition, the GeForce RTX 4080 reportedly delivers over 3X better performance than the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti in Cyberpunk 2077 (New RT Overdrive). I think someone forgot to ignore dlss 3

odd sand
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Except the 4080 12gb apparently performs the same as the 3080 12gb. Probably bc of the gimped memory bus

odd sand
royal forge
deep sapphire
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our friendship

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šŸ˜”

hard drift
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the one time i wish i was in the EU 😭

hard drift
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It’s exposed

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Exposed wire potentially touching other metal is awful

kindred brook
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Ohhhhh

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Wait how is the wire going through the metal

hard drift
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Connectors aren’t metal facepalm

kindred brook
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I thought they meant they cut it and fund a 12v rated cable

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Cutting it exposed thr cable

sly elk
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yea if two bare wires carrying different potential energy meet things tend to go sizzle sizzle

kindred brook
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is that from gamernexus

sharp star
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yes

royal forge
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I thought maybe ddr5 may be more upgrade path ready

sharp star
jaunty light
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send it to jayz so he can rush a video out the door on how the connector is dangerous!

odd sand
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Also DDR5 had slow uptake, so it's still rather immature. I'm personally gonna wait another couple years to jump on the DDR5 train. Theoretically by then we'll be at like DDR5-7200 or something.

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Is that for real? Seems odd such an old case design would have a 4090 in it

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I know the theoretical max is pretty high, but the timings on that probably aren't great and you're paying a fortune. Also you're going way outside the supported speeds even for tuner boards

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The prices on DDR5-6400 didn't look too terrible atm, but the benchmarks were like 3% more than DDR4-3200 or something which is disgustedaura for something twice the price

jaunty light
sharp star
jaunty light
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Prime atx3? Thought they were naming them vertex

sharp star
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also Zotac cards using the 150W cables but not enough to draw conclusions

jaunty light
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im just amused at all the influencers becoming PEs in electrical

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jay's video where he rehashed igor's article and basically made word soup then couldn't replicate any issues intentionally trying to break a cable

sharp star
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yeah that video was dumb

sharp star
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god I want this 12VHPWR adapter saga to end

jaunty light
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simply get rid of atx3 standard

bitter girder
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simply go to sleep

jaunty light
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open your PSU with it powered on and lick the caps! works every time

hard drift
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Early adopters suffering like always

jaunty light
#

Hold up there must be a meme for this

bitter girder
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knock knock

lime wasp
#

I was thinking about SFF builds again; would a 280mm AIO be enough cooling for a 5800x?

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And would a case like this

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Or like this

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Be enough airflow for that + a 3080 Ti?

hard drift
#

I kind of like the new reference model look

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If i go amd this gen I’ll be getting reference this time atleast, i want an aio this gen rather than having to worry about a loop

potent arrow
#

second case will have enough

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I have build in it before

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the first one? not so sure

potent arrow
dreamy chasm
#

You don't need much to cool a 5800x (3d or not) at stock clocks afaik

modest moss
#

oh hey it's cyan

dreamy chasm
#

meowdy WaveBOYE

modest moss
#

hope you've been well, haven't seen you in a bit

potent arrow
#

Hahahahahaha

deep sapphire
#

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#
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potent arrow
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Uh

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Hank? Lol

deep sapphire
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Sorry was just making sure it worked in case we needed to do some work

potent arrow
#

bruh lmfao

deep sapphire
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I feel gross

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Been using a DeWalt grease gun

potent arrow
#

ew

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did it jam yet

modest moss
#

just a reminder

modest moss
bitter girder
#

i think those look pretty nice

deep sapphire
#

Got the good tunes going though

hard drift
#

it likely will be for rasterization which most people care about, raytracing still likely a loss dlss 3 aside

dull garnet
lime wasp
potent arrow
#

?

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You pinged me with a single word.

lime wasp
#

I fixed it @potent arrow

potent arrow
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Havnt built in it, way too big of a case for me

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So I didn't comment

lime wasp
#

I see

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So, hypothetical question;

Would a 280mm AIO be enough to keep a 12000k or 13000k series Intel CPU cool?

hard drift
#

yeah but the feature war is just getting started and nvidia is for sure winning with remix

paper tusk
modest moss
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but is it really something you need if you have a 5800x?

paper tusk
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No just intel stuff and maybe 7950x

modest moss
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nah I'm trying to save Paragon some money, he has great hardware already

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5800x/3080ti

paper tusk
dull garnet
#

not fast enough

paper tusk
#

Yeah that's a good setup

lime wasp
#

Well, I'm looking to rebuild into an SFF design, and I was thinking if I have to get a new MOBO anyways why not think about getting an LGA1700 board to be compatible with future releases too?

paper tusk
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Intel has any future than "buy new motherboard"?

deep sapphire
#

The whole future proofing thing to me is silly, like hardware 6+ years ago can still game fine

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Unless you have money to throw away just stay with what you have

lime wasp
#

And and DDR5 might be nice too

deep sapphire
#

I doubt you’ll notice any difference in the real world tbh

modest moss
#

dude your rig is top tier already, are you legit rich or something?

deep sapphire
#

If you’re an enthusiast by all means but that’s up to you

modest moss
#

like if you have money to burn, go full on Icehunter

deep sapphire
modest moss
#

but if you're a normal person, just enjoy what you have, it's great

lime wasp
#

No, just gaming and computers are my hobby.

And I like building them.

And I want something smaller than my big ATX build

modest moss
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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go for it then

lime wasp
#

Eh I guess I can stick to the same tier and save some money

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And still accomplish what I want (much smaller footprint and space requirements for my PC).

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I already have the GPU, CPU, RAM and Storage obviously. EDIT: And I'd be getting the Meshroom 2 obviously instead of the Meshlicious.

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@potent arrow You've built in the Meshroom 2 you said right?

Would it be worth getting one of those thin little Noctua 120mmx15mm fans to put as exhaust in the top? Or is it ventilated enough that my GPU should be fine in there?

potent arrow
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Ive had to ram one on the top on a few builds

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Its a small benefit, and honestly if your gonna push the system it's worth it

lime wasp
#

I don't OC or anything but I'd like to make sure I keep my GPU cool if possible and was wondering if it was worth the effort of squeezing it in there to have a dedicated exhaust fan instead of just normal heat rising etc.

dreamy chasm
#

Man

potent arrow
#

Yes, it's worth

dreamy chasm
#

Why is audio equipment so costly

potent arrow
#

You can buy my old interface

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

Only a BAJILLION DOLARRSS

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mauahahaha

dreamy chasm
#

I just spent a good chunk on a midi controller and a usb mic

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I'm probably eating ramen for the next few months XDD

potent arrow
#

Me.

odd sand
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dull garnet
#

mmm ramen

potent arrow
#

If I wasn't upgrading my computer

#

I would've bought new headphones

#

Same price ;-;

dreamy chasm
#

im probably just

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buying a cheap pair of iems

#

i held off on the aria purchase after finding out there were qc issues with the paint chipping

dull garnet
#

i use earpods i found in some e-waste

odd sand
#

My favorite part of that video was some sort of feng shui illuminati kinda holographic stickers they put all over the inside

dreamy chasm
#

I just want something neutral that doesn't have awful treble

dull garnet
#

get some beyer, then you'll only hear treble

deep sapphire
dreamy chasm
#

i'm probably getting a tin hifi iem or smth

potent arrow
#

The 800s is 2100$ ;-;

deep sapphire
#

No highs, no lows, must be Bose

dreamy chasm
#

i already have a takstar 82 in the closet but it gets too hot for me to use it for extended periods

potent arrow
#

: (

odd sand
#

Prepare for treble and make it double. Beyerdynamics blasting off at the speed of light

dreamy chasm
#

idk if there'd be much benefit to headphones in my case anyway

#

i dont really need

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wide soundstage

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i just want good clarity

potent arrow
#

Just buy MDRs at that point

dull garnet
deep sapphire
#

AKG in a nutshell

potent arrow
#

Fleabay time

dreamy chasm
#

it gets like

#

40c 80% humid here

#

sometimes

#

I absolutely cannot wear headphones without becoming a sweaty mess after 30 minutes during those days

dull garnet
#

here u go bro

dreamy chasm
#

sadgies 200 bucks too much

odd sand
#

Have you thought about not being poor and getting A/C?

potent arrow
#

I would recommend getting my iems, but those are waaaay out of price range too

dreamy chasm
#

sadgies dont remind me that im poor as shit shinon

potent arrow
#

If you pay for shipping you can have my OLD iems(just need new tips and mmx wire)

dreamy chasm
#

o

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depends on how much shipping would cost

#

and which iems they are

lime wasp
#

@potent arrow Do you know if Noctua makes the ultra-thin ones in Grey/Black or just the classic Brown/Tan version?

dull garnet
#

$69

potent arrow
#

I'll stick them in a letter

#

So idk what letter mail is to wherever you are

#

Shure 215s

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Extremely worn out because I've work them for 5+ years, but they probably sound fine still....

potent arrow
dreamy chasm
#

Don't iems and headphones generally age decently well unless you're pumping too much volume into them?

potent arrow
#

Maybe?

dull garnet
#

people get bored of the sound before then

#

or don't know basic soldering to repair cables

deep sapphire
#

I dunno my Sony buds just sorta sound good when they feel like it

potent arrow
#

Idk I worn them for stage communication and construction work

deep sapphire
lime wasp
potent arrow
#

I don't really use noctua anymore

#

Only for their slim ones and what I have left in stock

dreamy chasm
deep sapphire
#

I can’t believe my NHD14 still works lol

#

I bought the fucker in 2011

dreamy chasm
#

I like air cooling for that reason

dull garnet
#

you're expecting a lump of metal to go bad? deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

potent arrow
#

Only reason I stopped wearing them is because I have the 535s now

dreamy chasm
deep sapphire
#

Well I meant the fans

#

your pfp kinda lewd

potent arrow
dreamy chasm
deep sapphire
#

LMAO my dad had this compaq with an Athlon XP for like 13 years the CPU fan was so annoying

dreamy chasm
#

I'll have to think about it, Sarah- I appreciate the offer either way 002H

deep sapphire
#

It’d ramp up over and over every 10 seconds

potent arrow
#

It'll be 5$ at most.

#

I just have to find it

dreamy chasm
#

Also, I can't thank you enough for hooking me up with that ssd a few months ago, it's been a lifesaver

potent arrow
#

Pfft

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

Glad it's surviving

deep sapphire
#

Technology is wholesome

dreamy chasm
modest moss
#

Sarah is so sweet and fluffy

deep sapphire
dreamy chasm
#

A CCX cable and new tips probably wouldnt be too much

potent arrow
deep sapphire
#

Sarah awwwww

modest moss
#

bitch take the compliment

deep sapphire
potent arrow
dreamy chasm
#

Here's to hoping my midi controller doesnt come damaged

potent arrow
#

How much are the 215s these days

dull garnet
#

fuwa fuwa

dreamy chasm
#

They're still 100 usd new

#

im p sure

potent arrow
#

Bruh tf

dreamy chasm
#

Probably a lot less on ebay

potent arrow
#

Pretty sure my mentor is still wearing his

dreamy chasm
#

93 on amazon

#

100 for the se215 pros

potent arrow
#

šŸ’€

#

I'll dig em out

#

Shove them in a letter

#

And put stamps on it

#

Literally how expensive could a snailmailed iem be

dreamy chasm
#

Probably not too much

#

It only really

#

starts costing a lot when you want to ship a box

potent arrow
#

That's what I'm thinking

#

Time to find my old kit.

deep sapphire
#

Buy AirPods

dreamy chasm
#

If I want to starve, I'd consider them

#

I'm scraping the bottom of my budget for new iems and I still can only really afford a 50 dollar pair at most

deep sapphire
#

Tim apple says they are biodegradable so you can probably eat them

potent arrow
#

Don't buy iems

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

I'll just shop mine out

#

It's fine, I can cover the 2$ fee LOL

#

Get rid of my old tech

dreamy chasm
#

Much appreciated BocchiSwayzoom

modest moss
#

you know it's accurate

dreamy chasm
#

Here's to hoping it doesn't get lost on the way here

potent arrow
#

I'll send two for good measure

#

one of my really really old ones

#

And my Shure 215s

#

Decoy iems

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

Probably worth less then the stamps

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

Check if you can even get the mmcx cables over there btw

#

I do have spares I can send, but those I actually need lol

dreamy chasm
#

I'll have to check

potent arrow
#

Yep

#

And I'll dig out the iems

dreamy chasm
#

Since a lot of chinese stores are starting to ship direct here I think I can get them for fairly cheap?

#

Yeah, I can get them fairly cheap around here

#

6-20 bucks for the cable

potent arrow
#

Jsyk the shures are meant so that the wire goes around your ears

#

Some people complain about that

dreamy chasm
#

I can get some spin fits for 10 bucks or so

#

Mhm

potent arrow
#

You can't just dangle them

dreamy chasm
#

I already use a pair that I need to do that with

#

They sound great for 3 bucks but, it just has a grating amount of treble

potent arrow
#

Rofl

#

You making music?

dreamy chasm
#

Just dabbling in it

#

I've had this itch for too long

potent arrow
#

Nice nice

dreamy chasm
#

Figured it'd be a good time to try scratching it now that I don't really have much going on

potent arrow
#

Imagine having not much going on, couldn't be me

dreamy chasm
#

This is arriving in 2 weeks, got it over the other versions since the software package it comes with seems like the best

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

School, work, car work, mw2 grind, 12 hrs of raiding a week

#

My life is a doozy rn

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

Im going to be so busy soon

#

The new generation of pc parts is gonna cause and influx of clients who want upgrades

#

So my intake is going to go up a bit

lime wasp
#

Hate to keep bothering y'all, but I was wondering if you might know of a better 280mm AIO than the one I was going to get (the one from Corsair). I've only used Corsair stuff thus far and was wondering if maybe y'all knew of another good but cheaper option or a better similarly price option?

potent arrow
#

I prefer Corsair for budget aios

dreamy chasm
#

I think gamers nexus had a writeup on these a while back

potent arrow
#

Well Corsair and lianli gallahad

dull garnet
#

well at least your 3090 will appreciate in valu-

dreamy chasm
#

nvm, i can't find it

potent arrow
#

Higher end I go for NZXT, Artic and EK aois

#

I personally prefer EK for sff

lime wasp
#

Or is it more a function of the fans and not the pump?

potent arrow
#

I build sff, location of the tubes matter

#

It's more so the fans because the pumps are basically all the same design

#

All of them are asetek designs : P

modest moss
#

you keep planning more spending, it's an addiction

dreamy chasm
#

I'm cringe and just put my CPU on eco mode with a low profile noctua

#

Mostly because I wanted a more compact case

potent arrow
#

Better then my classmate tbh

#

Has an i3 with a laptop cooler riveted to the motherboard

#

It's...

dreamy chasm
#

LMAO

potent arrow
#

.........

dreamy chasm
#

that's amazing

potent arrow
#

I hate it

dreamy chasm
#

they probably are still running it just to spite you tbh

potent arrow
#

He is

dreamy chasm
#

LMAO

potent arrow
#

80-100 C fluctuating

#

Still demolishes me in video games

dreamy chasm
#

what a guy

#

is it a recent i3

#

or is it like

potent arrow
#

Yes

dreamy chasm
#

cringe 2c 2t i3

#

ah

#

tbf, they're still pretty capable

#

but

potent arrow
#

They are!

dreamy chasm
#

100c fluctuating is a bit of a worry

potent arrow
#

Just not on a fucking laptop cooler

#

The worse part is that he didn't trim it down

#

He just ripped it off and slapped it on

#

So it covered most of his motherboard

dreamy chasm
#

LMAO

potent arrow
#

He literally has to use one dimm because the slot is covered

dreamy chasm
#

Did you offer to get him a cheap box cooler or whatever

potent arrow
#

And a pcie Riser too

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

YES

dreamy chasm
#

he really is just doing all of this just to spite you

#

i respect it KEKW

potent arrow
#

Fml LOL

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
dreamy chasm
#

was lucky enough to know someone that was upgrading his rig at the time, so i got this for pretty cheap

potent arrow
#

Das pretty capable

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

I'm still on the 3900x

dreamy chasm
#

the newer gens show pretty substantial gains but they don't seem that beneficial when i think about it

#

i'd probably benefit more from upgrading my gpu anyway

#

anyways

#

midi controller coming soonā„¢ļø

#

ill be pissed if they damage it somehow on the way here peepocry

potent arrow
#

I mean I'm upgrading to new gen

#

Solely because I'm getting the CPU and GPU basically for free

dreamy chasm
#

valid

#

Selling the old parts off to fund other things?

potent arrow
#

Nah just distributor is giving me a huge discount

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

So adding on a personal parts is basically written off

dreamy chasm
#

ahh.

potent arrow
#

I've been with these guys since I was working with my other friend when I was younger

#

Always been some discounts around new gens

#

But nothing this big

dreamy chasm
#

Mhm

potent arrow
#

my savings will be demolished

dreamy chasm
potent arrow
#

this generation will literally take like 40k to stock .-.

#

at this rate

#

the 7950x will destroy my powerbills too

dreamy chasm
#

Do you need that much performance

#

I heard it still performed fairly well if you just capped it at a lower wattage

#

Specially if you were just running lower threadcount stuff

#

Numbers seem fairly good considering the 12900k pulls 200w and the 5950x pulls 120ish stock

jaunty light
#

i NEED it

#

or I can get an i3 and triple radiators to copy a certain someone

dull garnet
#

make sure you spend double what you should be spending on your gpu too

jaunty light
#

I was going through builds people were doing in the 4000D and someone spent more on EK hardware than they did the GPU+cpu+mobo+ram

#

i was like wtf

#

maybe just the gpu and cpu since it wasnt a distro plate.. but like, an i5 and a 3070.. then $1k+ of hardware

dreamy chasm
#

debauer also has a pretty good writeup on power limiting the 13900k

#

But it's mostly just gaming benchmarks

#

barely losing to the 12900ks while pulling a third of the power lol

modern iris
#

is it worth it to upgrade ryzen 5 3600 to a 5600?

dreamy chasm
#

Probably not

#

Unless you have like

#

A good reason to pay for the jump

dull garnet
#

only if you're chasing higher framerates

jaunty light
#

5800x3d probably

dull garnet
#

but probably not generally

dreamy chasm
#

And if you can sell the older cpu

modern iris
#

cant afford the 5800xd but im seein on amazon theres 5600's for 150$

#

can wait for now

dreamy chasm
#

What are you running, and are you sure you'll be getting the gains that you want out of it?

#

You're probably more gpu limited unless you're trying to drive high framerate on lower resolutions

modern iris
#

6600 xt, 3600 mhz ddr4 16 gb

#

rx 6600 xt*

dreamy chasm
#

You're probably fine

modern iris
#

do you think im bottle necked alot being on pcie 3.0 where my card can take 4.0?

dull garnet
#

no

modest moss
#

you have a nice pc, just play games, have fun

modern iris
#

hm so im good šŸ˜„ maybe i should invest in a 1440p monitor

#

i currently have a 1920 75 hz 1 ms monitor

dreamy chasm
#

Canucks seems to have tested it a while back, doesn't seem like a huge difference for the most part

#

disparity is even smaller at higher res

dull garnet
#

gen 4 8x = gen 3 16x

dreamy chasm
#

6600xt's limited to 8 lanes physically

#

regardless of pcie gen

dull garnet
#

amd...

modest moss
#

1440p might be nice, probably better investment than that cpu upgrade you're considering

modern iris
#

i almost bought like a compact version of a 3060

dreamy chasm
#
#

The differences are minor, don't bother worrying about it

modern iris
#

and thats what im thinking, i may not get 60 on 1440p but atleast can watch videos with it

dreamy chasm
#

Specially if you're running higher res like you seem to be planning to

modest moss
#

yeah 6600xt is too similar to a 3060 to bother

modern iris
#

yeah i gotta file my taxes to afford the monitor lmfao

#

ye

#

got some back taxes i can do

dreamy chasm
#

A good quality monitor would def be a bigger upgrade than a minor cpu upgrade either way

modern iris
#

ok glad i asked. i didnt know how much of an improvement it would be

dreamy chasm
#

I think you can get decent 1440p monitors for not too much these days

modern iris
#

yeah i was looking about 180-250 bucks

dreamy chasm
jaunty light
#

yea the first gen 1440 144 panels are usually pretty cheap

modern iris
#

hell yeah i been wanting one since i got the 6600

#

i just bought a 2 pack of 2x8 gb 3600 mhz

#

was using 4x4 2400 mhz

jaunty light
#

didnt pay much for the 83, $379 back in 2020, now could be around the 240 mark

dreamy chasm
#

You can get one of the viewsonic models for 220 now

#

The only bad thing seems to be the stand

#

but a good monitor arm isn't really that expensive

#

yea

#

IPS/1440p/144hz for 230's a steal compared to how much you had to pay a while ago

modern iris
#

for the viewsonic?

dreamy chasm
#

Yeah

modern iris
#

mmmmmmm damnit i want my refund

jaunty light
#

dunno if the $27 one is still avail

dreamy chasm
#

There's this

#

.. I should get a monitor arm once I'm done recovering from buying all the audio stuff

#

I have 2 monitors

#

One of them is being propped up by a GPU box

modern iris
#

do you need hdmi 2.1 for most 1440p's?

dull garnet
#

no

dreamy chasm
#

Most of the modern ones have DP

modern iris
#

my current card has like 3 display ports and an hdmi port

#

would that work?

dreamy chasm
#

Yup

jaunty light
#

most if not all monitors will be DP with DSC

#

i cant think of one that even has hdmi2.1

modern iris
#

idk what that is

dreamy chasm
#

I'm pretty sure hdmi 2.0 can handle 1440/144 either way

modern iris
#

ah ok good

dreamy chasm
dull garnet
#

yeah my dell needs dp for 165Hz

dreamy chasm
#

Do look into the other panels in this price range too

#

Check reviews etc

#

That's for a previous model

#

I wonder if there's much that's changed

#

between the two

modern iris
#

well im gonna play some dark souls 3, thanks for the pointers šŸ™‚

dreamy chasm
#

panel might be different

modern iris
#

that has nice amount of ports

modest moss
#

how much is LG 27GP850-B where you are?

#

I bought it a couple months back and it's great

dreamy chasm
#

That's 350 on amazon right now

#

a fair bit above their budget

modern iris
#
#

theres my current one

#

i got it for 100 before covid

dreamy chasm
#

you'll definitely notice the higher refresh rate if you play stuff like cs:go and r6s often

modern iris
#

i used to play csgo but never competitive

#

i notice alot of games are locked at 60fps

dreamy chasm
#

And newer games you could probably drive at higher refresh at 1440p if you turned down the settings to med/high

#

Look at benchmarks for games you play often with your card to check

jaunty light
dreamy chasm
#

Yeah

sly elk
#

hehe i get a little lagh out of the usb-c to lightning cable

#

-plugs android phone into iphone- -iphone starts charging-

royal forge
#

Im truly enjoying watching the nvidia subreddit be filled with melted cables

dull garnet
#

riveting

royal forge
#

People sayin melting from the side

#

So it might be card problem

#

Speculation here and thr

odd sand
#

The Igors Lab thing covered by Jayz 2 Cents seems pretty definitive on the issue

#

I expect a V2 of the cable to make it into production asap. In the meanwhile someone dropping 2k on a GPU can afford another $50 for an aftermarket one from Corsair or Cablemods etc.

royal forge
#

Who got proven otherwise by techjesus

#

Well, more like diff adapters

odd sand
#

And who would techjesus be? Also why not multiple possible causes

royal forge
#

GamerNecus steve

#

Nexus*

#

His cables were quite different

#

He tried damaging his adapter similarly but couldnt reproduce it

odd sand
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Consider this: Until this point, a 600W PSU powered an entire system across half a dozen cables or more. Now they are condensing all of that into a single cable with a third of the wires of 24pin mainboard power

royal forge
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I have no horse in this race

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But i trust GamerNexus over Igor and Jay

odd sand
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He did it to one cable? So a sample size of 1? Color me unimpressed.

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I used to like GN and Steve, but I find he's gotten super obnoxious and full of himself the last 6 months so I can't stand him a lot of the time now.

royal forge
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I find the same about Igor tbh XD

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He points out that Igor's adapters and his are completely diff