technology-discussion

[sly elk]

that case was too small to begin with

the current crop of cases aren't gonna fit GPUs like that

they just needa make it longer

like i said

cases just need to become longer

it's funny because back in the day, there were longer cases

mostly because they did top-to-bottom 5.25" bays a lot

we need a comeback of longer lower cases that's all

i think it's a better form factor anyway

i wonder when I'll build another pc from the ground up

i gotta ask

why you're wasting brain cycles on this

who asked about legit shite but I mean

idk sorry xD

you do whatever makes ya happiest

if dreaming up new ways to use a new gpu tickles your fancy

https://tenor.com/view/anime-boy-kono-subarashii-sekai-ni-shukufuku-wo-konosuba-kazuma-sato-gif-17221576

?

so now what?

about $200 less than a strix

lol

i made a mistake buying that 3080ti

I am not afraid to say it

it does have better rgb than the card i used to have

tbh i shoulda stuck with the 5700xt lol 😄

it did the job just fine

aaand I could hackintosh with it

ME TOO on that white strix

but ye i admit

i had fomo

and all my friends bought better gpus

lol

https://tenor.com/view/satania-laugh-anime-lol-happy-gif-13786657

have you had fun with it?

sometimes it's worth it to just fucking do something and go all out

idk

like sometimes doing that whole "best bang for the buck" is boring

you got a computer that you scroll through a gallery of setup pics and see yours, you know it's yours

hahaha

https://tenor.com/view/anime-computer-gif-14894957

the funny thing is I never quite enjoy the process

there';s always some kinda drama going down when I'm doing that

no computer building was the easy part lol

i sometimes joke that i like working with tech because it's so much easier to deal with tech problems than it is to deal with people problems

it's just i usually have to throw them together in a hurry for some reason

like bro getting upset cuz he wants dinner or idk

something silly

i originally built my rig on christmas day

I was too impatient to wait till the day after hahahaha

so I built it about halfway, then finished after dinner

i think I can put a computer together pretty darn fast

haha but the christmas thing, I ddn't give myself enough time before dinner

idk

also you wanna like have fun with it right

good night

[umbral moss]

I always tell myself it doesn't take that long to build a PC

but from empty case to installing windows ends up taking 6-8 hours

[lost python]

Where does the time go seriously

I put my stuff together and suddenly it's dark outside

[umbral moss]

yeah

[lost python]

A little bit of cable management and oh damn it's 10pm

[umbral moss]

it's always little stuff too

like you get the CPU dropped in and the RAM is seated and you have the board mounted

then you start fixing wiring and making sure all the fans work and putting the tubing in for the cooling loop

even a CPU swap took me almost two hours after I finished fixing everything

[royal forge]

A lil bit of overclocking, some benchmarking, OH the weekend is over

But legit, i feel the same zen feeling i have when i build lego or gunpla

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/yWw6q6fRnnI

[umbral moss]

stop increasing the core clock speeds you fucks

all these fuckin videos are the same

"wow many watts"

no shit

you're at 6GHz per core, the switching losses are bonkers

[real edge]

stock

[wide hill]

now i want to see how that runs on ffxiv with a 4090

on 1440p

[umbral moss]

95 fps in limsa

[odd sand]

lmao Microcenter site is throwing 500 errors. Guess a lot of ppl are looking up CPUs

[real edge]

x3d ahead of its time

[hard drift]

can't wait for 7000 series x3d

especially with whatever improvements they might've made

[odd sand]

3.5% difference between DDR4-3600 and DDR5-6400. That's the most interesting thing to me.

Been wondering if it's actually really worth paying for DDR5 yet, and that would mean no

[real edge]

ddr5 5600 kit is like 180euro

not as bad as it used to be

but I think it could use a couple of more years to mature

[odd sand]

Yeah, but if 6400 is like 3.5% or 3% or something, 5600 is even less.

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/sheeesh-sheesh-gif-22353817

[odd sand]

And for the same price you could have a kit of like DDR4-4800 or something where there is probably no difference then

[umbral moss]

DDR5 sucks because nobody has put any effort into making good dimms

thanks to AM4 dragging out DDR4's lifecycle for an extra 5 years

[real edge]

hmmm

seems like blasting 300w into a chip does not bring about absolute results huh

[umbral moss]

no, because there's no advantage to these super high clock speeds

this is the netburst debacle all over again

intel thought they could get prescott to hit 8GHz at the end of their roadmap

[hard drift]

can't wait to see how bad the 13900ks is

[umbral moss]

but it turns out silicon doesn't like being triggered faster than 5-ish GHz without demanding a huge spike in power consumption

the reason x3d is as fast as it is is because they just have a fucking giant cache on the die and that's a far better use of silicon than trying to bump up clocks

the amount of reference clocks you need to keep everything synchronized is bonkers

and you become incredibly sensitive to ripple and DC noise

[odd sand]

Yeah this sudden boost in clocks is odd to me as well. I don't think we'll ever see say, 7ghz on silicon

Not stock at least

[hard drift]

what did you order???

[odd sand]

My Space65 keyboard shipped, should get it next Monday, but still waiting on the Dracula keys so dunno when I'll be able to assemble it heh

[real edge]

https://youtu.be/P40gp_DJk5E?t=1188 cooling performance is a doozie

[umbral moss]

never see 7GHz without phase change cooling

[odd sand]

That's why I bought an H150i to replace my old H100i for 13th gen lol

[umbral moss]

you need to restrict the atomic motion of the bulk structure to a fairly high degree in order to get the switching losses to be manageable

[hard drift]

i was debating intel for the minimum framerate claims but man, it's disappointing all around

[umbral moss]

otherwise electroimigration and switching losses will dominate and your CPU will shit the bed above 6-ish

[umbral moss]

no matter how clever your material science engineers are

[hard drift]

ah yes "Saving" money for a price that didn't exist

[odd sand]

@deep sapphire Pick one up for me pls and mail it to me

[umbral moss]

although I wonder if they could do something like strained silicon back in the OG AMD64 days, to try to restrict the atomic motion closer to room temperature

[hard drift]

where are we mailing it to

[latent grotto]

Is that microcenter

[hard drift]

yes

[latent grotto]

[odd sand]

The savings is just the placeholder price they had before release day

[umbral moss]

strained silicon and silicon-on-insulator were huge gains in clock speed for small power losses

[odd sand]

I'll be out there in about a month

[hard drift]

the price was said a while ago lol

[odd sand]

How long in advance can you place something on hold there?

[hard drift]

not long

[real edge]

in games too

[umbral moss]

maybe you need a sympathetic strain modulator material under your silicon lattice to restrict the silicon vibrations 🤔

[hard drift]

like a day or two

[umbral moss]

not directly fair to compare since they probably didn't power mod or delid the 13900

the out of the box power draw perf for the 7950x also sucks without dicking with the bios

[real edge]

both of them are as-is from what I understand

to thermal throttle with a 360mm AIO in games is

very stupid

[umbral moss]

well, if you're hitting 92C you're going to throttle so....

that's why I question the test conditions

early reviews for the 7950 also said the power draw was nuts

until people started voltmodding and then they found that it wasn't so bad actually

[real edge]

a 30% minus curve in PBO2 curve optimizer

[odd sand]

At the same time, if you aren't going to be doing rendering and peg all the cores it's not as bad. Then again, with how many cores it has, if someone is going to do rendering that would be the CPU they would use heh

[real edge]

better thermals and performance usually

as well as power draw

[odd sand]

Isn't 13th gen the end of Intel's bigSMALL? 14th gen they're going with a chiplet design like AMD right?

Why is the lid on the AMD so chonky

[real edge]

I hope so

I do not want to see more 300w thermal throttling cpus

[umbral moss]

nobody is really sure

it seems like the lid isn't actually doing anything on the zen 4 chips anyway

it's just kind of in the way, not really doing its job as a heatspreader

ye

I'm waiting for the hot topic edition of the 7950 next year

AM5 boards will be refined and DDR5 will probably have usable dimms by then

[odd sand]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/intel-14th-gen-chiplet-cpus-4nm-meteor-lake-for-laptops-in-2023-2nm-arrow-lake-for-desktops-in-2024-tsmc-3nm-for-igpu-die-rumor/ Supposedly it's tiled + bigSMALL

[umbral moss]

are you ok? did you have a stroke?

oh

I was making fun of the x3d designation

XDDD

[odd sand]

2nm 14th gen in 1H 2024...

Took 5 years to get 10nm working, but going to zip down to 2nm in 3... yeah...

[umbral moss]

according to gelsinger that's his goal

he's throwing tons of money at the R&D and engineering teams to get it done

three node shrinks in as many years

[hard drift]

they have a competent leader this time around

they can do it

[umbral moss]

eh, we'll see if he's competent

hasn't done anything yet

all the stuff coming out now was in development before he took over

[hard drift]

that's about right given the changing market right now

[jaunty light]

[umbral moss]

intel doing corpo things to make shareholders happy

[jaunty light]

They were all terminated and turned into 13600Ks

[paper tusk]

looked at 13600k review and only thing i can do is smh

255watts max no thanks

it's the best price/performance intel has but like come on a little less electricity please

[bitter girder]

EFFICIENCY BABY

[deep sapphire]

Where’s bidori

@hard drift

[deep sapphire]

Uh oh

Oh no no no no

[jaunty light]

Far cry 6

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

UH OH

AMD BROS I DONT FEEL SO GOOD

[jaunty light]

What is UV indicating

Oh efficiency lol

[deep sapphire]

He downclocked the P cores to 5.1 GHz

And it dropped the power consumption in half

[umbral moss]

yeah

that's not surprising

the 90W TDP limit results are what you'd expect

[jaunty light]

⅘

[umbral moss]

I don't know if there will be any huge improvements in monitor tech in the next 30 days

buy it now if you need one I guess

[deep sapphire]

Look at this hacker

[jaunty light]

⅖

[jaunty light]

300hz miniled bitches

Inb4 OD sucks and they look like smeared poo

[umbral moss]

mini...LED?

you mean the 4096 zone shit?

wake me when you have genuine LED pixels

VA

[hard drift]

Just wait lmao, intel will lose to vcache once again

[deep sapphire]

COPE

[hard drift]

And then amd will lose value for 8000 series

Since x3d will be that good

[deep sapphire]

If that was the case, why even launch what they have now

[hard drift]

It’s fact intel even tried to hide 5800x3d because it was too good

[deep sapphire]

It’s basically a slap in the face to early adopters

[umbral moss]

trickle

[jaunty light]

The 27s are IPS

[hard drift]

Early adopters deserve it lmao

[umbral moss]

why would you release the XDDD version now when you can wait a year, see what intel does with the 13 series, and release an updated version

[deep sapphire]

Here buy this poor value platform dumbass while we released X3D in Q1 2023

[umbral moss]

yep

there's a reason AMD's share prices are so high

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deep sapphire]

Being they dropped by over half

Not really

[hard drift]

Intel dropped by more than half

[deep sapphire]

But everyone got hit hard

[umbral moss]

$150 a share was horseshit lmao

[jaunty light]

Superior Products, Better Pizza, Papa AMD

[umbral moss]

they're still ahead of intel

[deep sapphire]

Intel had like 10x more capital

Has

[umbral moss]

they're a larger market cap, yes

but AMD's job is to get their share prices up

[deep sapphire]

I mean enough said, just because a share price is higher doesn’t mean it has more shares in circulation lol

[umbral moss]

investors are largely faithless that gelsinger can turn intel around

[hard drift]

Yeah but amd is getting there 🙏

[deep sapphire]

Intel still sells far more volume than AMD

[umbral moss]

they've been Waiting For The Future for 6 years now

[hard drift]

I mean i would be too, a hopefully competent leader vs the other one

[jaunty light]

sell sell sell! Intel goin down boys

[hard drift]

They don’t have to rely on others

[umbral moss]

AMD absolutely has to rely on others lmao

[hard drift]

I was talking intel

[umbral moss]

part of gelsinger's strategy for intel's future is to sell fab time to AMD

[jaunty light]

Been worthless since they aged a day!

Time to spend $5k on new parts

[hard drift]

@tame fulcrum it’s not worthless if you get value out of it

[jaunty light]

Cant flex on people if you have lastgen parts

[deep sapphire]

Intel bros we’re back

Value kings

Performance kings

[hard drift]

Nah, i think it’s worthless the second you touch it ice

[hard drift]

Performance king for a few months lol

And then the 13900ks comes out and it’s performance lacking

[deep sapphire]

Clearly didn’t see the charts I posted

[hard drift]

I mean they’ll get fucked in a few months

[deep sapphire]

Whatever you say

[hard drift]

X3d will kill amd next gen and intel

[deep sapphire]

Will kill AMD

I like what I hear

[hard drift]

Outclassed by itself

Intel has nothing on amd yet

[umbral moss]

🤔

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-fall-firstdayoffall-michael-gif-18553281

[dull garnet]

When is your 13900K coming

Oh right

And then a 13900K a week later

[umbral moss]

not pictured: three months of breaking boards and PSUs

[dull garnet]

You could make a short documentary

On ice's pc build

[jaunty light]

Instead, waste money and electricity!

[dull garnet]

Because poppa needs his annual CPU upgrade

[umbral moss]

just invest in web 3.0

it's going to be the next big thing, don't worry

[jaunty light]

Weeb 3.0

[dull garnet]

More of a web 4.0 guy

[umbral moss]

not enough zuckbucks to afford web 4.0 yet

you're stuck with the 3.0 expansion for now

[undone vale]

Hey folks
To those who play FFXIV using AMD 6650xt GPU with a 1440p monitor
How much FPS you getting on medium to low settings?

[dull garnet]

That will depend on CPU too

[undone vale]

I will be getting a 5600/5600x

[odd sand]

Did MS really not provide official dedicated server software for the bedrock edition of Minecraft?

Bedrock Dedicated Servers allow Minecraft players on Windows and Linux computers to set up their own server at home, or host their server using a cloud-based service. This is in its early development stages, so as with any early release software, it may have severe issues. Due to this, support may be stopped at any time.

Wanted to setup something for niece and nephew to connect to a shared world on their tablets, which means it has to be bedrock edition apparently

[dull garnet]

nice, that's a good chip for ff14

[umbral moss]

[umbral moss]

I can't afford one of these room killers anyway but I was like, "impulse buy time"

had a brief 💡 moment where I thought I could convert it to a compact water-cooled module and then PCIe ribbon it to a board, also compact water-cooled

why does the MSI CLC thing have a fan on the shroud? 😔

my first thought was that their cooling solution is garbo and they don't have a plate that covers the VRMs or memory chips

so they need a fan to keep the ancillary electronics from melting

ITX GPU though

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-general-mark-r-naird-steve-carell-space-force-consider-gif-17477334

[dull garnet]

dat AV1

lol, saw a thread on /a/ about an av1 encode becoming available and a guy with a 4960K and 1080 was like "huh? my pc plays this just fine"

and it was using like half his cpu and gpu lol

incl dropped frames

[sly elk]

so lemme get this straight. For $399 I could get a 5800x3d and get 142fps using 70.5w of power.
Or I could spend $659 and get a 13900k and get 169fps using 116w of power

[umbral moss]

yeah, pretty much

both AMD and intel releases this round are scuffed as hell

the 7950 isn't even as fast as the 13900 and it pulls as much power

[sly elk]

didn't everyone already know that though

[umbral moss]

yeah

[sly elk]

lmao I wanna see my 9700k on this chart 😄

[umbral moss]

zen 4 was supposed to be a big improvement over zen 3 but it looks like whatever they did sucked

[sly elk]

to see what percentage improvement any of this crap is

[umbral moss]

your 9700k?

I have a 6850k

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-wheel-run-gif-10746499

yea I have the uncool i7 that nobody else bought

even my "I don't do computers but I wanted something for gaming" coworker bought a 9900k lol

[umbral moss]

I might just end up with a 5800XDDD

[sly elk]

word, if I decide to buy another mobo/cpu

[umbral moss]

slap that bitch on a mini ATX or ITX board

[sly elk]

they bottomed out at 349 recently

[umbral moss]

just run it in the tiniest form factor possible so I can transport it

[sly elk]

IN FACT

it's still 349

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/y78y09/cpu_amd_ryzen_7_5800x3d_34900_ebay_via_antonline/

if you haven't used the countdown22 ebay coupon yet, anyway

[umbral moss]

I never use ebay so

[sly elk]

it's through a normal store though

lessee which x570 board would I pair it with

crosshair hero only 364 lol

cost as much as the processor lmao

f it. I'd do a cheap b550 board

[umbral moss]

$229 for the ITX board

and only one PCI x16 on that board

[dull garnet]

$350 is nuts

[umbral moss]

MSI has a $150 board though

I still want an AM5 board because it feels incorrect to spend all that money on a dead platform

like the fuckin stupid ass HEDT chipsets being from five years ago

[sly elk]

right lol

[umbral moss]

but AM5 makes no sense right now since all the hardware is a fuckin beta

unoptimized bioses, first-release manufacturing

zen 4 chips are garbo

DDR5 sucks

[dull garnet]

Remember

The less money you spend on a board the more you can spend on a cpu

[umbral moss]

sure, but the counterpoint is that there's a definite quality gap between the cheapest garbage you can find and the most expensive

although I don't believe that halo products actually do anything significantly better than the top-end of the mid price band

[sly elk]

^ definitely not

[dull garnet]

Obviously you don't buy the cheapest

[sly elk]

aside from VRMs and maybe software included, it comes down to stuff like how many fan connectors it has, if it has wi-fi and bluetooth, how many USB ports it has, if it has a nice plastic shroud over the I/O, junk like that

[dull garnet]

You want some vrm cooling, and decent quality vrms at the very least

[sly elk]

also the maximus/crosshair boards come in fancy boxes

[umbral moss]

watercool the VRMs

[dull garnet]

Plastic shrouds are stupid btw

My hot take

[sly elk]

now that's something I'm surprised icehunter didn't do, water cooling the VRMs

he didn't get a monoblock either

[dull garnet]

Overclock the vrms

[umbral moss]

oh god, more ways for him to fuck up lmao

[umbral moss]

you used to be able to do this in intel HEDT boards

changing the VRM PWM frequency

which made them run hot as fuck if you went too hard

[dull garnet]

Cheap ITX availability is why I opted for a 5600X vs a 11400F for gf

The Intel boards were just dogshit

[umbral moss]

yeah, AM4 ITX being $229 is breddy gud

could probably put the whole thing in a shoebox lmao

[dull garnet]

Nah I went even cheaper

[umbral moss]

well, that's the top-end ITX from gigabyte so

[dull garnet]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/A520I-AC-rev-1x nice board

[umbral moss]

I kind of want to try one of those intel arc things

ITX GPU being teeny as fuck

[sly elk]

i think the arc is the best looking gpu this gen

[dull garnet]

and we all know gpu aesthetics matter

[umbral moss]

the price is certainly right

[dull garnet]

[umbral moss]

$350 for a GPU that's slightly worse than a 3070 is a steal

[sly elk]

GPU AESTHETICS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!

[umbral moss]

considering the 3070 still costs almost 800 goddamn dollars

[sly elk]

lol jk but

[dull garnet]

it is slower than a 3060 Ti too

and more expensive than a 3060 Ti

[umbral moss]

which also costs $600

did those prices finally crash back to a reasonable level?

[dull garnet]

in the UK a 3060 Ti is £369, a A770 is £400

[umbral moss]

is the 770 the top sku?

I thought there was a 780

[dull garnet]

770 is top

well, that £400 is a the 16GB model. 8GB is £330

still, a lot to beta test

i m o

the memory speed looks good on paper but that didn't help vega now did it

[umbral moss]

I mean, I guess but if I want that much memory from an nvidia card it's what, $800?

[dull garnet]

3060 is 12GB

[umbral moss]

12 is 16?

[dull garnet]

no but it is more than 8

[umbral moss]

sure

but I want 16

[dull garnet]

a 3080 Ti is also 12

[umbral moss]

or ideally 24 but that's only the 4090

[dull garnet]

3090 is 24

[sly elk]

yea out here a 3060ti is solidly $100 more than an arc a770

[modest moss]

Lads hold me, my internet has been down for 8 hours and isn't expected to be fixed until tomorrow lunchtime

Fuck bt

[dull garnet]

wild that a 3080 is a mere 10GB

[sly elk]

the UK has bigger problems

[dull garnet]

where to begin

its okay

it all just blends together

remember pre 08 shue

[modest moss]

No problem bigger than me needing to do my beast tribe dailies

[dull garnet]

those were the days

[sly elk]

I blame it on the modern peugeot drivers

[modest moss]

And I can't find my usb wifi thingy

[modest moss]

Gonna have to try bluetooth tethering later

[dull garnet]

if only you bought a steam deck

[modest moss]

Ice didn't follow through on buying me one

What a jerk

I should have bought a mobo with wifi

[sly elk]

I sometimes wonder if honda was popular in the UK in the 90s

since they sold rebagded hondas as rovers

[dull garnet]

used to be a guy local with a black EG Civic with some Halfords special wheels

I thought it was cool though

[sly elk]

interesting that amazon still has that listing for the 399 digital ps5

[potent arrow]

man im just chilling here like

wtf I am considering intel for once?

lmao

[dull garnet]

digital ps5

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-gif-25165912

[potent arrow]

The real shit is if I wanna use an old platform Intel and fucked over when I need an upgrade or fuck myself over now rather then later with AM5 with ddr5 and shit

my poor wallet

[modern iris]

Anyone here could help me with an issue with steam/FFXIV?

Every time I try to launch the game from steam, I can log in, but when i press play, just get a black screen. Game works if I close steam from task manager. Anyone know how to fix this?

[sly elk]

that's weird o_O

maybe it's the steam overlay screwing things up

can you turn it off for ffxiv?

[modern iris]

Ive tried, didn’t work. I’ve tried reinstalling steam and FFXIV, will test turning overlay off again

[sly elk]

sadly it's the only guess I have, but if you already tried that

I had a similar problem with amd's overlay when I was playing genshin impact lmao

had to uninstall the amd software and then get janky to install the drivers without the software

[modest moss]

!faq launchers

try that

[opal panther]

**Official Launcher Giving you Trouble on Updates?**

Try these alternative 3rd party launchers.

For Windows:

https://goatcorp.github.io/

For Mac OS:

https://www.xivmac.com/

For Linux:

https://flathub.org/apps/details/dev.goats.xivlauncher

Alternative cross-platform:

https://github.com/eorzeatools/microlaunch
(developed by rin#3487 - contact them for help)

Please read all the documentation and guides for these launchers before requesting assistance.

Do note that these programs, like ACT, are technically against TOS. Treat them like Fight Club, and don't be rude while using them.

Please note no staff have tested the Mac, Linux and cross-platform launchers so use at your own discretion.

[modest moss]

usb tethering is a godsend

my broadband is broken, been down 12 hours

[deep sapphire]

Fuckin ISPs are the WORST

[dull garnet]

british telecom best internet in the world

[modest moss]

[dull garnet]

best country in the world

[bitter girder]

EE is so fucked atm

[dull garnet]

mobile?

[bitter girder]

yeah

[dull garnet]

rip

[bitter girder]

i keep getting this almost every week now

[dull garnet]

I AM SPEED

[modest moss]

oh I see why it wasn't fixed today

strike day

[bitter girder]

oh lovely

[dull garnet]

i'm with smarty

[bitter girder]

is that o2 or 3

[dull garnet]

3

[warm mesa]

@deep sapphireman

[dull garnet]

7 quid a month for 8gb

[bitter girder]

OH WAIT FUCK OFF

HANG ON

nah nah nah

[warm mesa]

my amd driver issues happened

i had to replace my amd card with nvidia

because squeenix didnt patch their shit

[bitter girder]

truuuuuueeee

they only just made the 5700xt good

[warm mesa]

it wasnt amds fault

[dull garnet]

debatable

[warm mesa]

squeenix patched in 6.2

[bitter girder]

mirror reflections dont work in sims 4 with amd cards

[warm mesa]

absolutely fucking broken on amd

[dull garnet]

looooool

[bitter girder]

INSTEAD OF REFLECTING

[warm mesa]

and thats squeenix fault for not testing

[bitter girder]

THEY DO THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE AND YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE WALLS

[dull garnet]

I guess it is unreasonable to expect users to actually buy AMD

[warm mesa]

yeah

[dull garnet]

take me back bros

[modest moss]

if amd drivers weren't dogshit, game devs wouldn't struggle to get shit working right

[bitter girder]

god damn

i miss the sexy girls on the boxes

[warm mesa]

i bought the cheapest rtx 3080 i could find

i still have a waifu amd card

lemme check

[dull garnet]

you should see a 06 era desktop i have somewhere its great

[bitter girder]

i have seen

[dull garnet]

fuck it i'm posting it again

[bitter girder]

and im so gutted i only got into computers when i was 13

[warm mesa]

i have the bottom one

[bitter girder]

i want to fuck the amd girls so bad

[warm mesa]

ruby fetish intensifies

[dull garnet]

LOOK AT STEAM

[bitter girder]

nah nah you're forgetting

[modest moss]

[bitter girder]

right so whilst amd was making sexy girls and stuff

nviida was like okay

[dull garnet]

lets make products that work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS5tfq_Ctis don't forget the mermaid

[bitter girder]

oh you want cute badass looking redheads?

[warm mesa]

meanwhile microsoft

[bitter girder]

i had to read that 5 times i kept reading minecraft

[dull garnet]

I got this card with my first pay cheque

[jaunty light]

And u dont, shuu?

[dull garnet]

lul

[warm mesa]

win7 girl was cuter tho

[dull garnet]

2k tan is goat

[bitter girder]

i wish siri would step on my balls

[jaunty light]

I can do that

[bitter girder]

siri said thats not nice

[bitter girder]

god damn it

[warm mesa]

damn

[dull garnet]

one time this design led me to actually installing win 2k

it was awful

[modest moss]

amd more like std

[jaunty light]

Worth

[warm mesa]

u know what jp peeps are shit at many things, but they do know how to market certain stuff

[dull garnet]

xp tan is pretty top heavy

[bitter girder]

i love her

[bitter girder]

god damn

that gave me a foot cramp

brb

[jaunty light]

She has many vulnerabilities

[warm mesa]

[jaunty light]

[inland mauve]

i still have my xp pc

[bitter girder]

@modest moss pop the kettle on

[warm mesa]

wanna be my xp pc

ill treat you well

[bitter girder]

yeah sure go on

[warm mesa]

[inland mauve]

[inland mauve]

no

[dull garnet]

ME tan

[bitter girder]

me tan my beloved

[deep sapphire]

Holy shit based

[dull garnet]

OH LAWD SHE THICC

[bitter girder]

WHAT THE FUCK

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

I have the PSO menu music playing in my head looking at that

Hi Freddy

[warm mesa]

on a different sidenote my 3080 was cheap and performs decently

[inland mauve]

damn she is thicc

[dull garnet]

lol someone made a Win 7 tan garage kit

[warm mesa]

also the cheapest 3080 i could find

[jaunty light]

All u need to change hanks mind are big bazonkers

[inland mauve]

pear shaped mascot

[warm mesa]

has the best gpu shroud ive ever seen

[deep sapphire]

Yes

[jaunty light]

We need to give AMD huge bazonkers mascot and hank is in

[deep sapphire]

No

Feels so good that Intel is better

[warm mesa]

tripple fan full metal shroud on the cheapest 3080

its nuts

[dull garnet]

tfw no anime mousepad

[deep sapphire]

Smug AMD peasants begone

[jaunty light]

We can also give a big bazonkers mascot to milwuakee

[warm mesa]

i thought hank has a huge bazonka

[jaunty light]

Named.. milk-uakee

[warm mesa]

seargant geforce milk

[warm mesa]

hank i own rtx now but i havent raytraced in 2 weeks

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-gif-22262209

[bitter girder]

pain.

[warm mesa]

[warm mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-isekai-isekai-truck-gif-20217591

[modest moss]

I'm bored, shall I watch goodfellas or just be bored

[dull garnet]

sleep

[warm mesa]

WATCH

[warm mesa]

that movie is soooo good

i enjoyed it most dearly

[dull garnet]

tfw no vidya card waifu cosplay gf

[modest moss]

it's not even 1am, telling me to sleep

[jaunty light]

Rip cowboy girl

[warm mesa]

shue i recommend goodfellas

[deep sapphire]

Nah watch a bronx tale

[warm mesa]

its very good

one of my favourite movies

[modest moss]

I've seen it a bunch of times, just not in a few years

[dull garnet]

watch michael jackson's moonwalker

[modest moss]

tonight's the night, no net, save my meagre data allowance

later boys

[warm mesa]

play micheal jackson moonwalker nes game

[dull garnet]

mega drive

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/y8p1iG-6d-w

[dull garnet]

great game

[deep sapphire]

Genesis

You know what I learned

Atari were the ones who suggest Sega name it the Genesis

[jaunty light]

Korea number 1

[deep sapphire]

My aunt is Italian and her dad is the most stereotypical Italian

Dude has 4 Cadillacs

A deep raspy voice

[dull garnet]

oh the Samsung MD

[deep sapphire]

Smokes cigars

Mega Drive sits passenger

[jaunty light]

MULTIPURPOSE

[dull garnet]

SEGA of America is a poopy

[warm mesa]

i heard hank is like a good sega genesis game

ages like fine wine

[warm mesa]

[deep sapphire]

Sega of America did make some absolute dogshit I agree

But at the same time basically saved that company

Remember it was mark cerny who kept the sonic franchise going

[warm mesa]

u know what i find annoying

[dull garnet]

[warm mesa]

they can make amazing games in jp

holy shit they used to boom the market

[deep sapphire]

Also GEMS was a good idea but musicians were too lazy to learn how to use it

[warm mesa]

now that pc gaming/x86 became popular they shit the bed

[deep sapphire]

UNREAL ENGINE 2 STRONG

ARA ARA

[dull garnet]

eh? PC is pretty much the lead platform in Japan

[warm mesa]

nono

unreal 3

[deep sapphire]

One of the first PC games I ever played was epic pinball

[warm mesa]

oh no wait

that was the korean standard

[deep sapphire]

God that was a good fuckin game

[warm mesa]

for games

[dull garnet]

korean games are barely games

[royal forge]

My first game was jump start first grade

[dull garnet]

also i spent 6k hours in tera so i know about unreal

[warm mesa]

koreans sure now how to make good games

[deep sapphire]

Korean games are playing games with KIA owners on replacing defective engines

[jaunty light]

Tera player, hide!

[warm mesa]

its just the pay2win factor

that ruins it

[royal forge]

Maplestory is also korean

Also p2w

Also gacha hell

[dull garnet]

https://i.imgur.com/LKKGcL3.jpg don't worry, she's dead now

[warm mesa]

ill tell you

lost ark

is a blood amazing game

[dull garnet]

lost ark is a joke

[warm mesa]

from what ive seen

the p2w heavily fucks it

[bitter girder]

her body is literally a triangle wtf

[warm mesa]

did you see the latest lost ark raid

absolutely good content

they are trying

[dull garnet]

nah i decided it was shite after playing it for 20 minutes

[warm mesa]

its way higher quality than ffxiv raids

[dull garnet]

ffxiv content is a joke

[bitter girder]

yorkshire tea needs to make a game

[warm mesa]

im telling you

[dull garnet]

mmos are a waste of time and life

[jaunty light]

He even played those characters

[dull garnet]

they're all bad

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

[warm mesa]

they poured a ton of effort into it

but damn the p2w sucks

just like amd drivers

[dull garnet]

for tera

it was p2p for like a year

then about 6 months after f2p they ran out of content with some kind of effort

[modest moss]

As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster.

[dull garnet]

and then the rest was designing costumes

[bitter girder]

i cannot get over how well doom 1993 plays on just a trackpad

[dull garnet]

much like ff14 now

dungeons were just boss corridors

[warm mesa]

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cube-driving-car-jamming-gif-8824493

[warm mesa]

man you making me watch goodfellas again

[warm mesa]

more like

savage dungeons give less loot than normal dungeons

[dull garnet]

oh man

in early tera the loot from the best dungeon made you a ton of gold

then they made gear bind on loot

[warm mesa]

yeah but you see at square enix

they are giga brains

[dull garnet]

tera also had owpvp

[warm mesa]

what if we pour idiotic amounts of work into new content

[dull garnet]

griefing people was so fun

[warm mesa]

and make it have no rewards

[dull garnet]

i barely engage with anything out of msq cus i just don't see what my motivation is

[warm mesa]

glam

and fun

at least for raids and ultimates i see the point

hell extremes too

they always have som,ething to give

[dull garnet]

who has the time

[warm mesa]

they dont take a lot of time if you do them a expansion later

and give great rewards anyways

[deep sapphire]

I need cat girls in my life

[warm mesa]

i need hank

[dull garnet]

last time i subbed for a month i cleared msq and got to level 10 on island sanctuary

that was pretty fun at least

[royal forge]

Omg mood

[warm mesa]

well lets just hope they can improve on the ew issues

[dull garnet]

issues? dw i have nvidia

[warm mesa]

not those

buggy game on release, shit balance, idiotic job design and now the hardest dungeon ever made having no loot

we having plenty of issues

[dull garnet]

hey i play warrior

[warm mesa]

yeah hey

[dull garnet]

was it buggy on release? seemed okay besides the server issues

[warm mesa]

you play one of the worst jobs

[odd sand]

I just had a classic PC tech support moment with my mom

[warm mesa]

we had plenty of audio and visual issues

[odd sand]

My mom texts me saying the keyboard is broken and it only types numbers

[dull garnet]

amd users?

[warm mesa]

on release

no

for everyone

[dull garnet]

i didn't have any

any tank is great because i don't have to pay attention to stay alive

[warm mesa]

audio randomly broke

to be completely fucked

but you couldnt relog to fix it

[odd sand]

I figure she pressed something and turned on scroll lock or some weird numlock mode I don't understand, so I told her to unplug and plug in the keyboard again and also try restarting the PC. She says neither of them worked.

[warm mesa]

as yoou were unable to play the game for hours

[odd sand]

So I google the issue and see someone mention typing in the pin and I'm like oh no... she didn't...

[warm mesa]

sadly for raids they werent

so they hard buffed war and pld

[odd sand]

Yep. She was sitting there at the PIN password prompt the entire time and I had written the pin down on a post-it note last week and put it in front of the computer

"Oh, I didn't know what that was for..."

[warm mesa]

[odd sand]

Thing is, she already used the computer once a few days ago, so I didn't think it was a PIN issue, but she said when she used it it asked for the regular text password instead of the pin so 🤷‍♀️

[warm mesa]

just think of it that not everyone is tech savy

[odd sand]

(I upgraded the PC so I did a reinstall with Windows10 last week)

[warm mesa]

and move on i guess

[odd sand]

Well you think the post-it in front of you that says PIN on it, and then on the screen it says ENTER PIN

🤔

[warm mesa]

yeah but remember you have spend time with a lot of hardware

[odd sand]

Yeah it didn't take too long to figure out, it was just really funny facepalm moment.

[warm mesa]

and some peeps just dont get it as fast

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/hestia-dm-dd-gif-19361934

[odd sand]

Yeah, she worked as an accountant for like 30 years and used Citrix and digital invoices for probably the last decade at least, but was still super computer clueless

[warm mesa]

hard opinion, to be able to configure and handle a pc is already you being very intelligent nowadays

apparently

[dull garnet]

nah

[warm mesa]

its problem solving skills

[dull garnet]

they're overlooked skills, it is just accepted to not know

[warm mesa]

that makes you smart

if you can handle a pc problem on your own

you are pretty smart by todays standards

[dull garnet]

[warm mesa]

only thing one cannot solve

are amd driver issues

@deep sapphire

[deep sapphire]

What’s worse, AMD or NISSAN drivers

[warm mesa]

[dull garnet]

amd

@jaunty light https://twitter.com/maggoo_/status/1583215336371150849?s=20&t=fnUHoS2aFUisLnKuJX6u-Q

[jaunty light]

based and true

[potent arrow]

@deep sapphire

[deep sapphire]

Hahaha “why isn’t this fuckin thing working”

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/todoXi1Y-PI

[deep sapphire]

@modest moss bidori is crying rn

His sweet AMD completely embarrassed

[hard drift]

Nah x3d will win once again

[deep sapphire]

Can’t handle it

Can’t take it

The copium

It’s time to switch

[hard drift]

Intel couldn’t handle it that’s why they refused to add it to the graph except for a line

[deep sapphire]

Intels the best

[hard drift]

intel has failed on its claims once again

to "massively improve minimum framerates"

[deep sapphire]

Intel is the winner

[hard drift]

had they done it i would've swapped but they failed lmao

also the powerdraw still

[dull garnet]

[jaunty light]

Ford >

[modest moss]

Amd lads changing the subject again?

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/amd-rage-mode-gif-18986938

[modest moss]

That's bidori stomping around dicks all day

[hard drift]

can't stomp right now, my feet/shins are bruised badly lmao

[deep sapphire]

[hard drift]

probably another incident

[deep sapphire]

Speaking of that I still need to send in my rebate. God what a joke they can’t just have an online form noooo gotta print it out and fax

They do that shit on purpose

[hard drift]

yup

gotta save money somehow

the newer generation doesn't even know what a fax is

rebates never gonna be filed

[agile roost]

Thoughts on the new raptor chips?

Sitting on a 8700K

Debating between the 12900KS or waiting for the 13900K

[hard drift]

i'd wait to see what amd brings/the KS for 13th gen if you're debating KS anyways

[agile roost]

Yeah my chip has held up good so far, not seeing the KS until early next year though

[hard drift]

i mean if your chip is still fine it's worth waiting

especially with x3d coming out by then

[agile roost]

At this point anything I get from this gen or next will be a substantial upgrade lol but yeah doesn’t hurt to wait and see

[hard drift]

the longer you wait the better it gets lol

[agile roost]

That multi-threading tho

Would pair nicely with my 3090

[hard drift]

what resolution do you game at?

[agile roost]

4K

[hard drift]

don't upgrade that high

an absolute waste

[agile roost]

What do you mean?

More frames 😳

[hard drift]

your main bottleneck is gpu at that framerate

you're talking like 5ish percent loss atm

well yeah for this game sure

[agile roost]

Yeah

Which is why I’m considering upgrading my processor

MMORPGs in general can be processor intensive rendering in players

[hard drift]

you don't need a 13900k though lol

[agile roost]

It’s overkill but the plan is to not have to upgrade for another 3-5 years lol

[hard drift]

you'd be fine for 3-5 years even then lol

[agile roost]

With my 8700K?

[hard drift]

even with a 12700k

[agile roost]

Ah yeah of course

Who knows, with the 13th gen coming, maybe 12th gen will drop a bit in price

[hard drift]

that gpu powerdraw smh

look at the fps drop smh

smh

[agile roost]

Lord have mercy 139

I need it

You have my dream combo

[sly elk]

eww 3090 SO LAST YEAR

[agile roost]

🥺

The 4090 is impressive no doubt but

I’d have to upgrade my power supply

It is thick and hungry

ROG Thor 1000W Platinum II

I’d have to step up to at least a 1200W

[hard drift]

We all do soon enough, new standards

[sly elk]

ya know I was joking right?

[agile roost]

Now I do

[sly elk]

ooo is that the neat mirror finish one

that one's neat but....

pretty much every case has a psu basement

so RGB PSus are totally pointless

[agile roost]

Yeah in my case it’s kinda hidden but you can still see the wattage on the left side sticking out

[sly elk]

neat

[deep sapphire]

@agile roost

[sly elk]

LMAO

I...

I don't even

like seriously wtf

[agile roost]

[sly elk]

ya know I remember seeing an apple factory where they had imacs vesa mounted to their like CNC machines or whatever

they were running like windows 7

[deep sapphire]

Haha

[sly elk]

but apple was still using imacs to run windows

[agile roost]

So much kek in one image

Truly a work of art

[sly elk]

like, at least they still used their own hardware

"hey tim cook try our google phone! It's so good that we don't even use them"

[agile roost]

Lol

[sly elk]

I am amused. I mean wtf is it really that big a sacrifice

[agile roost]

The “this tweet has been deleted” is what kills me lol

[sly elk]

i guess it is lol

[agile roost]

Marketing intern was probably like

[sly elk]

I kinda don't give a shit about using iphone or android particularly because they both do the job just fine for me

[agile roost]

Yeah

[sly elk]

but I have seen a lot of people talk about group chats in iMessage

and in my experience, lots of people who would buy an iphone refuse to use any messaging service at all

imessage and facetime or F off.

[agile roost]

A lot of companies default to iPhones as the standard work phone because of the standardized OS and security

[sly elk]

my employer lets us pick 😮

we get an iphone or a mid tier samsung phone

[agile roost]

Yeah I saw a recent article discussing how there is an actual psychological and design reason for why people prefer the white text on blue background instead of white text on green

[sly elk]

and they have some really weird at&t portal thing where we can get phones so it's nice

I like how sometimes when you see a 2 desk setup in /r/battlestations the desks are completely different

in this case it's the chairs

i don't have nearly the hair density to do that

nor do most wigs tbh

TBH I don't understand how it even works

if you watch videos of trying to make anime spikes in wigs

they basically tease the hair and then glue the tip together

and that's about it

what to stand hair up?

I was thinking of making anime spikes

[sly elk]

I usually end up spiking my hair when i have it short

but i like having it long XD

[odd sand]

OMFG NETGEAR... So this is why my upload has been gimped even after getting fiber...

It apparently set itself back when I was on cable in California...

[tame tartan]

more like dynamic PoS

[sly elk]

geez today on /r/pcmr - numerous people talking about ordering a GPU and receiving either an old gpu or just garbage in the box

[odd sand]

Getting triple the DL speeds on Steam now too

[sly elk]

yay!

[sly elk]

haaa

https://www.reddit.com/r/DygmaLab/comments/y91ypt/another_great_feature_of_our_split_keyboards_is/

man dygma had way too much fun engineering the defy lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/DygmaLab/comments/xjbi8u/did_you_know_that_the_wireless_dygma_defy_will/

The wireless Neuron has a triple function. It's an RF dongle when connected to the PC, a Bluetooth transmitter when connected underneath the keyboard, and a regular neuron when you want to use it wired. 😉

[odd sand]

Okay, I have whipped everything into shape now. Setup IP passthrough and disabled all the other shit on the ATT combo modem/router, setup the subnetting for my regular router and got all the port forwarding going etc \o/

Now I go pass out and die bc its 3am

[sly elk]

yay!

also, hmm

https://jalopnik.com/the-ineos-grenadier-which-is-technically-not-a-land-ro-1849681885

nice!

but it's kinda funny that land rover isn't making the actual land rover anymore XD

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/raijintek-morpheus-8069-vga-cooler-for-amd-rx-6000-nvidia-rtx-30-40-gpus-pictured these things are back

[sharp star]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/y8y03x/hey_guys_check_out_my_new_4090_side_note_newegg/

[hard drift]

dude probably bought from a third party instead of newegg

[sharp star]

Newegg never learns anyway

[hard drift]

especially not that subreddit

[jaunty light]

someone is the baller in this setup

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/vd2V7emO8Es

Where’s bidori

Laser levels are fine, just buy whatever is cheaper

Stanley owns DeWalt

[odd sand]

Minecraft server is working. In true MC newbie fashion I failed to find coal for 2 nights in a row and died to a zombie before I could seal myself away for the night heh

Day/night cycle is so short

[modest moss]

/time set day

ez

[odd sand]

I think I'm just in a shit area for ore bc I dug down like 20 blocks and still nothing but gravel and stone

[jaunty light]

if u wanna hate life play gregtech horizons

oh i'm sorry, you wanted to make a door? better find out how to do iron metallurgy, create tools, and make nails and hinges first, bitch!

[odd sand]

Also why tf can't you password protect a server? Instead you create a whitelist and it autokicks anyone who joins thats not on the list? 🤦‍♀️

[jaunty light]

you can put a password on it

or is this nilla

[odd sand]

I googled about it and was told you couldn't. Yeah vanilla

[umbral moss]

christ, XIV 1.0 flashbacks

having to make 25 sub components to make a fucking shirt

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/melissabug-thinking-brain-science-confused-gif-26212921

[jaunty light]

wack, but iirc if you try and join itll just begin the connection process then prevent you

still stupid

[odd sand]

I miss the crafting system in SWG. Being able to find randomized materials and save them away to put together really awesome crafted gear was a neat concept

[umbral moss]

yeah, but you can imagine why "lucked into god level stuff early on" might be a problem

[jaunty light]

Gonna craft a shirt!
looks at wiki nevermind

[odd sand]

Well, you still had a base tier of stats so it's not like a cloth shirt was gonna roll better than adamantite breastplate or something

[jaunty light]

step 1, create a needle, step 2, fabricate cloth strips and other materials.. et aal

must create spell tomes! step 1. learn how to write. step 2, get a quill and ink. step 3, create a book from scratch, bitch!

[odd sand]

You forgot about mining and smelting the ore then creating a mold for the needle

[umbral moss]

having to make the goddamn sleeves and the body separately, then you have to craft the fucking thread to make the whole thing

and the sub component crafts are higher level than the actual craft

so you can't make your own shit

[jaunty light]

ah yeah create a pickaxe, but to do that you need to hand scrounge materials to make a caveman tool to gather enough

[odd sand]

All I remember about 1.0 crafting was in beta exploding and dying alot

[umbral moss]

1.0 crafting sucked

like, the mechanics of it were fine

[odd sand]

I didn't think so. The mechanics were predetermined and really obtuse

[umbral moss]

the problem was that the recipes were insanely granular and you needed 5 different components to make a shirt

each of which was a higher level craft than the shirt itself so you had to buy the sub components

[odd sand]

RNG determined if you failed before you even started, and you standing on your head for glowy color orbs only determined how quickly you failed

[umbral moss]

fairly similar to FFXI

[jaunty light]

I dont think any modpacks do it anymore but at one point the mitigation to power creep was a 9x9 advanced crafting grid

Spend 2 weeks gathering shit

[umbral moss]

the thing is that main/off hand actually made a big difference in 1.0

if you used the wrong tool your craft ate shit

off-hand wasn't a stat stick in 1.0

[agile roost]

🙏

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

Why is ford so bad

[umbral moss]

poor process control