XFX had a sweet warranty policy too
#technology-discussion
royal forge
XFX had a sweet warranty policy too
seems like consumer friendly companies seem to struggle with team green eh
ALMOST AS IF THEY WERE INCOMPATIBLE
deep sapphire
EVGA claimed from the rampant 3090 failures it cost them a shit ton of money
royal forge
why would the 3090 be failing?
deep sapphire
And they claimed because nvidia withheld specs of the GPU they had issues with designing it I recall
royal forge
ye. i kinda don't get the logic behind nvidia's secretive-ness
deep sapphire
It was that Amazon MMO people kept having GPUs dying from idling the game in the menu
deep sapphire
Kinda reminds me of Starcraft 2 when it first came out lmao
That had no frame limiter on the menu
royal forge
It was that Amazon MMO people kept having GPUs dying from idling the game in the...
lmao. i forgot about that
ye
its like
DOC TURN OFF MY FRAME LIMITERS
fukken dies
deep sapphire
The arcade mode was so bad for so long
deep sapphire
They made this insane map editor and then nobody could get their maps played because it only advertised the most popular ones
Like how fuckin stupid
royal forge
Ice, ur the odd one out
the anomaly
the CURSED anomaly
ur like a copy pasta
at least it was an EVGA
I cant get EVGA here since... well
price is too stupid
and warranty is non-existent
cuz
non-US
royal forge
ye
deep sapphire
royal forge
IF ONLY THE UK DIDN'T PULL OUT LIKE A COWARD
SMH
COULD HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH A BRITISH ACCENT
BUT NO
smh
sly walrus
https://youtu.be/x2bOXQibamM
why won’t you LET ME
royal forge
our older generations, who were educated and worked with the brits prior to independence actually have a very refined accent
deep sapphire
why won’t you LET ME
Go apply for a visa and have 4 million dollars easy
royal forge
its a shame they never passed it on
cuz dumbass
but thats rule 4 talk
with travel opening up
i HAVE debated going to taiwan for tech shopping
i'd be like those rich ladies who go to milan or wdeva for shopping
EVERYONE'S DOLLAR IS SHIT
shoulda bought USD
but forex is an unholy clusterfuck
dont sell ya liver
sell ya kidney
u have two
Type 1?
nice
👏
very impressive
MMM
ok
fine
that's not perfect
but
👏
ye
hey, 7 years diet control is p good
most of my patients would be on meds by then
ah
its ok, not like u can afford food after buying pc parts anyway
i thought it was well known
but ye
am doc
not nice
low pay
no money
cant buy PC parts
sad
dont wanna
🔫
lotsof those
ur fault for not accepting us
its quite difficult to get in
apparently
u mean USMLE?
USMLE is an unholy mess
well
its scary AF
ye
brb finding canadian wife
royal forge
ur fault for buyin PS in the first place tbh
isn't it a yearly fee?
lmao
hard pass
jaunty light
yeah but then you gotta say ur an unironic gimp user
not sure im ready for this level of commitment yet
deep sapphire
Free software sucks
jaunty light
skill issue
tranquil breach
Canada has a lot of trouble attracting and retaining talent in a large variety of fields
And for a country that kind of prides itself on being so open and welcoming, it's actually RIDICULOUSLY hard to come here properly in any meaningfully short period of time even as a professional in your field 
sly elk
rawr
jaunty light
deep sapphire
And for a country that kind of prides itself on being so open and welcoming, it'...
Can confirm, when I visited Canada they were total assholes to me and didn’t let me stay longer than 2 weeks
Though I found it funny when I was leaving at the airport I was told I had to turn in some form to the police that I left and the cop said “you did the right thing bud” lmao
tranquil breach
Going TO the states I was asked where I was going and the guy told me to have fun
Coming back I was grilled about my life story and I lived like
45 minutes away from the point of entry
"Where do you live? What do you do? Where did you get the money to visit the states?"
Like man I live here, I have a license and a Canadian passport, and I work at a job
jaunty light
What job though? huh?
tranquil breach
None of their damn business
jaunty light
Where's your paystub? What do you do? Why you nervous?
tranquil breach
jaunty light
Why don't you put on these handcuffs
tranquil breach
Nowadays they can grab your phone and search through it
And ask for passwords to your socials
And rifle through all of your online goodies that they think you have access to
jaunty light
which phone
they're gonna be sitting there for a long time going through my hentai collection on 5 phones I guess
tranquil breach
jaunty light
"That's 1 of 5, mr. border agent dude. They all have at least 1TB of microSD cards btw"
Never know if I'm planning illicit activity using one of the images, gotta go through all of them.
tranquil breach
Pretty sure they'd just confiscate it and throw you out
jaunty light
damn how mean
tranquil breach
Can confirm, when I visited Canada they were total assholes to me and didn’t let...
The Canadian border guards ruined a college friend's relationship
She and her boyfriend were coming back to Canada after she visited the states to see him
Wanted to spend a couple weeks in Canada and then plan things out going forward
Border guard asks questions, they respond, asks what their relationship is
Her boyfriend says he eventually hopes to get married to her and move to Canada
jaunty light
looks him over yeah not happening bud
tranquil breach
Guard says no to entry, thinks they're going to try to loophole their way into Canada
Barred entry for a year or some shit
tranquil breach
Like, damn dude y'all really scared someone's gonna move to Saskatchewan and take up all of that empty space eh?
jaunty light
we plan to take over all your maple syrup production factories
odd sand
Speaking of security theater, I need to remember to fill out my passport renewal this weekend
jaunty light
I was gonna get precheck but im too lazy to go in person
just such a hassle to get approved for OCONUS travel
deep sapphire
"Where do you live? What do you do? Where did you get the money to visit the sta...
Dude is just jealous cause he’s broke
jaunty light
"i went down here to buy a bunch of illegal car parts, dont hate me cuz ur poor" - canadian hank
deep sapphire
"i went down here to buy a bunch of illegal car parts, dont hate me cuz ur poor"...
Ur a Canadian honk
jaunty light
dont tell the us gov that they'll deport me
odd sand
I was gonna get precheck but im too lazy to go in person
I paid for TSA-Pre in the US so I could avoid all the BS
It's $85 you shouldn't have to spend, but at least its 5 years I can take a flight and not get deep-cavity searched when I want a flight
sly elk
I didn't realize those bear shops were all over the place. I thought it was a defunct car repair chain
tranquil breach
Dude is just jealous cause he’s broke
I'd imagine he was being paid more than I was at the time, I was a broke-ass college kid
odd sand
Don't have to unload my bag, shoes stay on, metal detector instead of backscatter etc. Get thru security in like 5mins bc its a separate line from the muggles 
sly elk
even more crazy, the BEAR company that those things all came from still exists, I guess they were bought out a few times though xD
jaunty light
2 hr drive if I wanna do it, guess I could go in a couple weeks
oh wait @odd sand I forgot to notify like 2 other agencies that I am gonna leave OCONUS
at least there's still a month and a half to go so they won't be mad
odd sand
That's my only downside with a gov job is you need to file paperwork to go on vacation when you leave US territories
sly elk
yea I've heard things about canada's border patrol being kinda prickly before
like even if you have a speeding ticket or whatever
they'll get all harsh
odd sand
For where I'm going there is never a risk of them denying me, but its still a minor hassle
sly elk
i mean
odd sand
I think it's a tit for tat thing bc US was a dick first with the passport reqs
sly elk
unless you do something really stupid they'll approve it
jaunty light
I lost count of how many I have to deal with right now because i'm contract its 4 to 5 separate (but still within dod)
sly elk
my boss had an internship in russia
and I've known other people who made trips that were like wow
odd sand
gov contracts are x_X bc you can't get anyone to do shit that needs to be done bc govvie position
sly elk
the paperwork is irritating
jaunty light
current company, local DoD presence, maybe big DoD (east coast) in certain cases, plus local NCIS and the final is something I can't say
sly elk
I've been pissing off a program because
odd sand
You tell them to do something and they want like, written order from the CIO every goddamn time simply bc they dont want to do more work
sly elk
they keep me too busy doing stuff
so I don't have time to fill out paperwork
so I can't help them with other stuff
jaunty light
it's easy to get everything approved it's just fucking annoying because the last one is the one where it's shit like 2 months notification, brief debrief, tell us your life story, what is your itinerary front to back
"I see you were missing for 1 hour on october 15 at 10:00-11:00, what were you doing?"
odd sand
So we're trying to get the CIO to write a memorandum that says basically: I am empowering these contractors, do what they say
sly elk
LOL
jaunty light
on that note I think I'd never get approved to go to china which is a shame, not until I get out of dod
odd sand
Bc atm they want us to do 90% of their job for them and literally just hand them like a script that does it for them if they push a button
sly elk
"I see you were missing for 1 hour on october 15 at 10:00-11:00, what were you d...
snorting coke with unsavory people, ofc, what else?
odd sand
Currently we're dealing with them wanting to pay $1.5M extra per year for a parallel enterprise tool
sly elk
"actually I went to visit the coke guy my CISO told me about"
odd sand
And we're like bruh.... the tool we have here already silos everything, including your use-cases
"Yeah but... we wanna use this one" ... "you're going to be the only ones in the entire org using that and it will require doubling our dev budget to ingest those logs"
jaunty light
we are having the same thing ATM
sly elk
I enjoy those convos
jaunty light
people with 0 tech skills are making big money decisions at the top
"we bought this thing, now implement it"
odd sand
And implement it means turn it on with 5% of it configured, then they see the jingly keys for another multi-million dollar tool
jaunty light
yup
sly elk
it makes me feel like a bully when I remind people about their budget/schedule
odd sand
and then the forcing factor is their budget is way too small
"What are your critical systems you want us to protect?" "Everything." "Yes, but what are the most important?" "Everything."
sly elk
enough that I had a "i hope i don't get fired" moment and then my boss who was hanging out in the meeting immediately backed me up lmao
jaunty light
atlassian's not for CI/CD but.. you know
odd sand
Jira...
sly elk
jira configured all wrong 
I think half the reason I hate MS products is because of that same sorta thing
odd sand
I spent THREE YEARS trying to get them to clone the config for our Jira project so we could make bespoke issue types for our department. Would have taken like 5mins to copy the config and point it to the copy, then a couple weeks to brainstorm new issue types.
sly elk
me, using an MS product and complaining that it can't do this one particular workflow!
Internet: Well there's this one brilliant feature that does that!
me: ?! where?
Internet: It seems your IT department blocked that feature off because it's privileged
odd sand
Nope. Left there and we were still writing shit into comments that was for the issue fields
sly elk
Jira is the same kinda cancer
it has way way too many knobs and buttons for admins to silo everyone
odd sand
Jira is honestly not that bad, but much like Splunk it requires an admin and dedicated modding to your org
sly elk
so a disturbing amount of our work convos go something like "we'd love to do X!" "Well that's great but we can't do X because IT won't give anyone the permission, so you'll have to ask them to do it for you"
except
IT is undersized and way overloaded
and they have too many juniors who only know how to do windows helpdesk things
odd sand
Ah yes, the "security so secure, not even the org knows how it works"
odd sand
That way when there is a breach, it takes you 10x longer to respond bc you dont know half the assets on the network
odd sand
"We need these logs for this breach" .... govvie gets back to you 4 days later
jaunty light
we only do 15 minutes of real work a week, can't expect a good response time
sly elk
there's a dude here who gets upset when I complain about security stuff but I think it's a context thing lol
odd sand
Most of the time it comes down to, it's extra work and they're govvie so there is no consequences
sly elk
my take on it, is if you really want to make stuff exquisitely locked down and controlled, you need to have adequate staffing to support it when it's needed
odd sand
They can tell you to fuck off and their job will never be in jeopardy and you either never get what you need, or they can stall for weeks
sly elk
if your IT department works like "file a ticket and we'll get back to you in an hour/day/2-3 weeks"
jaunty light
ha, locking down on windows is easy
sly elk
then you've already lost the game
jaunty light
2 buttons and nothing works
sly elk
yea
that's why I hate windows
it like everyother MS product wasn't designed to be used
windows was designed to be managed
jaunty light
then you need to tell l1 helpdesk to unfuck applocker, whatever centrally managed endpoint protection, etc etc
odd sand
Atm security doesn't have privs to manage email
So when they get a phishing campaign or something they need to file a ticket to infra and they'll get to it ... eventually
sly elk
heheh
odd sand
That was one good thing about my last contract is we had privs for O365 SCC
So we'd get in in the morning and monitor email flow and at 8am they would always try to phish ppl and we would purge that shit with a vengeance immediately
jaunty light
hey at least you have teams that can do stuff our equivalent "security" team are people that look at securitycenter and @ you on teams with a plugin ID
thankfully, exchange is big navy's problem I don't want to touch that shit
odd sand
In some cases 5-10mins it would all be purged and blocked after being received
jaunty light
on the flip side, everything else is big navy's call, so suddenly it's "haha sucks to suck"
people: oh my god! teams is not working!
us: yeah that sucks doesn't it
odd sand
We had barracuda for awhile and it has its own issues, but one upside is they keep copies of all emails for like 2 weeks
Whereas on O365 if someone gets a phishing and deletes it immediately, you're SOL on checking headers and trying to contain other recipients
Bc for some stupid fucking reason, MS persists in enterprise mgmt involving logging into user mailboxes to check emails and headers etc.
It may not say its doing that anymore, but functionally on the backend its still doing that
jaunty light
it's amusing to check my junk folder because nothing's junk
but I also never get any non-external DoN emails
odd sand
I loved the users that would check their junk boxes then report stuff as spam/phishing
jaunty light
whatever big navy has configured in their exchange even disregards their own CAs when we do SMTP
odd sand
That's actually the one stupid thing about O365: Stuff marked phishing I think is still just sent to junk unless you hard delete
Oh, your SMTP doesn't have their servers added for DKIM and SPF?
jaunty light
choose one: use a cheese grater on your sausage (trying to get the above approved) or deal with everything going to junk
jaunty light
this but in dod we just add no-click.mil to a random part of the top level
sly elk
safelinks are the biggest piece of garbage
odd sand
Augh safelinks. You'd think they would make safelinks easier to read thru Outlook bc MS pipeline
All it does is make it impossible for the average user to decipher what the link is for, and safelinks isn't foolproof so...
jaunty light
it would be fun to look at all your configs to see how backwater we are but the tl;dr on us is that uh, we've got us, then big navy, then small navy approved shit, then east coast navy approved shit
basically trying to tie everything together is like trying to weld 5 different generations of aircraft together in hopes it flies
odd sand
Sounds like navy. My last contract was navy affiliated as well. Would always get like fleet cyber nagging us over idiot mac users getting themselves infected with malware from the Mac Fixer utilities or w/e
It was insane how many had a mac and would install shady utils for no reason
odd sand
This isn't 1985 anymore, you don't need weird 3rd party shit to keep your system running well
sly elk
there were a few
odd sand
Yeah they had variations on like Mac Fixer, Mac Cleaner, etc.
sly elk
yea!
odd sand
All of them had the same stupid malware installed in them that the name escapes me atm
sly elk
there was also one company that sounded like those that was always complaining that apple didn't know how to make secure software
jaunty light
they're trying to go in "the right" direction but you still have huge fragments everywhere
sly elk
yea it's pretty funny because if they took their own advice they wouldn't have had that o problem
"macs don't have viruses why would I install this bullshit?"
jaunty light
I'd rather just not use our own exchange though
odd sand
Which isn't entirely true, but still a lot better off than Windows on that front
jaunty light
have to run one*
sly elk
for sure shinon lol
odd sand
My biggest issue with MS is they change the domain/subdomain and names of their O365 tools every other month
jaunty light
I can see some cohesion in very high level services like O365 but not when you get down to our level, where it simply doesn't make sense to try and force big navy (global) on everything
odd sand
I remember the Quarantine box would rename and move around commands literally every week
Agile dev implemented into production every sprint
On an enterprise mgmt tool
odd sand
Well ranting is fun but its almost 3am I should sleep. I slacked off today, so I wanted to actually hack away at a new Splunk dashboard in the morning to make up for the time lol
jaunty light
what a nerd
odd sand
See if we can get infrastructure to actually do their goddamn job if I can provide a one-button report for patching
jaunty light
it's simple just send me your splunk configuration so I can shove it into our environment
odd sand
I hope you like rex fields and regex bc that's a lot of splunk lol
jaunty light
I can.. like.. do some regex at the absolute most elementary level..
odd sand
50% of splunk is just figuring out what your valuable data is, ingesting those logs, trimming them down to just the essential/useful fields.
jaunty light
https://docs.splunk.com/Documentation/Splunk/9.0.1/SearchReference/Rex then I read the left bar there
lmfao
SNOW EVENT
odd sand
Other 50% is making the actual dashboards, correlation searches, datamodels, notable events, etc.
jaunty light
perfect we have servicenow we need this for reasons
I'd love to get all the time in the world to fuck with splunk here because they deadass set it up for a check in the box and it does nothing
the only time a "new functionality" gets added is when they have a vendor engineer out for 2 weeks
odd sand
Ah yes, servicenow. Still watching the vids for that stuff on Pluralsight etc.
Even if you don't have admin access, you should be able to do user-level field extraction
jaunty light
snow is another thing they won't use appropriately because they want to use it for HMRS but won't link it to AD. so it's useless
I can give myself admin it's my linux server
it's just getting pp slapped for wasting time on things not given to me
odd sand
What you do then is take some raw events into like Regex101 site and tease out the fields you want, then copy that into splunk and do a field extraction at the indexer level
I think sometimes you need to escape a few more things when going from regex101 to splunk but its not too bad
Just ends up looking like https:\////www.example.com// or something like that
jaunty light
it's probably not that bad if you have someone actually in it but it's currently just check in the box
it could do a lot of cool or useful shit
odd sand
Ah woops Discord got rid of some of the escapes lol
Splunk is insanely powerful, like holy shit run your entire org powerful
But yeah, you need to tool it for that
It's even used for real-time logging for Formula1 race cars
Like one of the upcoming use-cases is one dept has to log in and check that like 3 dozen things are all working properly everyday. We're going to make a script that logs into them and writes events to a KBstore recording they've been checking and operational etc.
Should save one of their operators 3hrs a day
jaunty light
my current button is orion (yes, the one you're thinking of) and I bet it could be done with splunk instead lol
but you know, money got spent, blah blah
odd sand
Yeah I think that was a tool that was down bc of the breaches and we tried to gently nudge them into deprecating it then bc we could cover the same use-case in Splunk
The funny thing is, I get it. You get a bunch of contractors that come in and say SPLUNK IS ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE
And they roll their eyes and think you've just got tribalism or getting kickbacks or don't know what you're talking about, etc.
jaunty light
for what they bought Im sure it's coverable. I'm not sure what IPAM actually does but
but if you're telling me splunk can't do what NPM or NTA does, fuck outta here
odd sand
But at the point Splunk has all the logs and you want parallel logging into another tool... why?
jaunty light
then at virt manager level, you can easily tie into vsphere management/monitoring with it
i'm too dumb to figure out how you'd end up tying into the homebaked websites here but I'm sure someone could figure that out, again ,with splunk
since at most orion here will be like "oh my god! the server is at 56% CPU usage!"
odd sand
I forget what the difference is between the addon and the app
I think the addon manages the inputs and the app covers the actual data
Which is another project for me, their app doesn't do everything I need for a certain use-case, but thankfully you can clone the dashboard and extend it
jaunty light
SC is serviceable, but nessus manager is awful
whoever designed nessus manager and agents needs to be brought out back
I simply don't understand why I can't ask an agent to re-check in
nah just make a WHOLE new scan or wait until the next scan is scheduled
odd sand
One of the nice things with Splunk is you can have it run scheduled searches and do scripted actions based on those periodic searches. As well as role-based access to actions on field data in splunk where an analyst doesn't need their own individual account to action on events
eg: You can pantag urls and IPs directly from splunk
Want to fuck this IP in particular? Click the dropdown and select pantag. It's gone.
jaunty light
I imagine overall our usage would be elementary but I could still think of a ton of useful things it could do that would save many hours
like atm we do have some operators doing checks for health, that could easily be replaced by some calls to sites, SMB shares, etc. ran on a schedule and tput in a dashboard
odd sand
Yep. Write a python script or something and write event output to a kbstore or whatever they call them now (think they just upgraded to something new)
You can do a lot with powershell as well, but it can be a pita at times and a lot of orgs lock down POSH for obvious reasons
Stand up a splunk container and run your own parallel tools
jaunty light
woah let's not get ahead of ourselves with python
I could probably still write some of it with a refresher but mostly use pwsh now
that said I do remember python being so simple
with pwsh I constantly run into some bullshit
POWERSHELL DIDN'T LIKE THIS STRING, MOTHERFUCKER
POWERSHELL THINKS YOUR OBJECT DUMB, MOTHERFUCKER
odd sand
I could probably still write some of it with a refresher but mostly use pwsh now
I mean, I think you can run powershell via adaptive actions with splunk as well, I just assumed most ppl prefer python since its more OS agnostic
Although with .Net Core its kinda crossplatform now
Not all modules are available in Core, but it's getting better.
Okay srsly really need sleep now 
night
jaunty light
rofl
they are listed! https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-rtx-4090-gaming-trio-24g/p/N82E16814137762?quicklink=true
oof strix rocking $400 prem
i imagine all the AIBs feel the same atm
"wow we can't design anything that looks decent, because the cooling team has to have a 5 slot piece of aluminum"
I would need to see the 4090 in person but it looks decidedly not premium compared to even the 3090
its cool they exposed the fins but at the same time that's probably more indication of cooling problems, that they had to forego the 3090 RGB bar there
tf brand
peladn
2 slot blower lmao..
high end PC parts, where you need to be rich and then use immersion cooling
sly elk
i got roasted for that with pyspark in the past
but the truth was
the tool I used pyspark for was really like one tiny piece of a much bigger puzzle
that got abandoned pretty hard lol
jaunty light
err, isnt a single 8pin like 150w?
sly elk
i like this dude's setup
jaunty light
sly elk
chair, too
there's so muhc to look at lol
-looks at it- -shrugs-
i just bought a rm1000x!
and I'm not changing that shit again
and I don't think I'd ever want a 40 series
they're big and ugly and stupid!
sly elk
i have both an ergo chair and a gamer chair
idk about those ones, those ones are too fucking expensive
they have some really sweet themed chairs
but they're like $650
jaunty light
@tame fulcrum updated driver, perf still ass
All over the place, 120fps, 50fps
Cp77
sly elk
lol
i could build a new comp
but no more GPUs for now
also what would i do if I built in a new case
where would I get rid of my giant case xD
i hate the idea of wasting money like that
it looks like it exploded
sly elk
jaunty light
Bro what
They patched comrade hammer?
It doesnt blow off all the limbs anymore
My char is op
I have autoheal that nothing can outdamage
deep sapphire
<a:aLuluStare:676231008093208577>
Dumb vtuber
sharp star
https://twitter.com/NotBrunoAgain/status/1575526675990958081 I like how PC Gamer suddenly became pro-crypto with a Sinophobic slant because China banned crypto
Twitter
jaunty light
https://twitter.com/NotBrunoAgain/status/1575526675990958081 I like how PC Gamer...
here's the problem with (editorial site): "writeris a games journalist with 15 years' experience"
operative word.. "games journalist"
jaunty light
PCG is a rag anyways they've been shit for years but it's like any other place where almost anyone can publish some garbage
"All quotations attributed to the bank here have been through a machine translation and lightly edited for sense." even better
you literally have one dude on the PCG team writing an article with google translate helping
sharp star
games journalists will suddenly swap stances at the drop of a hat because “China bad” even when China does legitimately good things like ban crypto
god
graceful pine
The main thing is just the justified hatred of the Chinese government
Which is starting to break server rules anyway so not going further
royal forge
Shue Shueeee
modest moss
hi
royal forge
My colleague was confused as to why I was horrified they were logging into their bank account on the work place PC
The PC works with teamviewer and is connected to the work network
They did bank transactions and bought plane tickets on work PC
modest moss
maybe he's just a really charitable guy and wants to share his money
royal forge
aint even an old person
graceful pine
yeah you don't need another L today
Well played
royal forge
it's like, my age
modest moss
of course it was a red, that gets given against Arsenal 9 times out of 10
graceful pine
It’s a yellow but not in the mood for arguing
modest moss
@royal forge just proof that intelligent people can also be dumb af
royal forge
He was like "yea, but you OWN the image"
I was like "yes, i can right click save"
"But I own THAT particular image"
its just
omfg
people
shook
modest moss
@graceful pine you cannot ever complain about getting a red for going in from behind with studs up, just the way the game is now
graceful pine
Trippier only got a yellow for that against man city
But again don’t want to argue
modest moss
if Xhaka did that to Son, you'd be demanding a red all day long
royal forge
damn. i've not heard football talk in a long time
I assume you guys talkin the footballs
the soccers
modest moss
it's not about force, it's about the studs
royal forge
the Man U is best football team
graceful pine
Man U are very much not
royal forge
i joke
graceful pine
But they have been better since they dropped Maguire though
royal forge
i think Man U does very good PR
graceful pine
They win without maguire lmao
royal forge
i think ?most? people here are fans of em here
i had ONE friend who was an arsenal fan
modest moss
if only England would drop him
graceful pine
They have a dominance on south east Asia
royal forge
another ONE was a chelsea fan
modest moss
you have one smart friend
graceful pine
Spurs have a big showing in the region now though
Because of son
Mainly in Korea
graceful pine
it's not about force, it's about the studs
Trippier did the same thing against city only got a yellow(with a lot more force)
But I digress
No point to argue
graceful pine
if only England would drop him
White stones dier as back 3 for England
If southgate goes for a back 3
want one of the ball players like stones or white
Then just a pure shithouser like dier
Walker and Chillwel as fullbacks ig
Sancho saka kane as front 3
Brazil will win the World Cup anyway tbh lol
At least they are my picks
That team is just stacked
opaque hearth
basically decided to upgrade my PC. ended up going for a full rebuild at this point. curious what people think of my planned build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/foxdren/saved/#view=bgtTMp
(will be more storage carried over from my current rig) also if you have any proposed changes try to avoid anything that will push the price up by too much as I'm close to my budget for it.
opaque hearth
good point, didn't think of that. yay money saved
for some reason it didn't occur to me when I decided to do a new full build
jaunty light
I'd have to do too much extra math plus VAT in my head to actually recommend anything else, but the newer you can get yourself on the better (relatively anyways)
opaque hearth
was planning on going for an i7-10700kf but the i7-11700kf ended up working out cheaper
opaque hearth
had a look at building with the recommended board and an i7-12700KF. comes in about £100 more but saving that from not buying the windows 11 key so all's good
hard drift
royal forge
when does embargo on the 4090 drop anyway
hard drift
I think the day before release?
hard drift
they can afford to do it whenever at this point, amd isn't releasing a single card until november
they have a chance to capitalize on highest end and since we're going into a recession hopefully amd will capitalize on the market changes with decently priced cards vs nvidia plus lower power draw 🙏
hard drift
i mean amd has a long way to go to gain market share for gpus, nvidia has had been the main go to for a lot of gamers and amd really messed up with rdna 1. rdna 2 was a ton better but nobody will give amd a true chance unless performance is on par and prices are that damn good vs the competition since they burned their reputation with drivers in rdna 1.
if amd doesn't capitalize on the chance they have right now, they probably won't have a better chance for a while again
graceful pine
they did get a strong ground in the cpu market
hard drift
yeah but with intels next move, if their claims are true, amd has to really make big moves with x3d coming q1 next year to try and 1 up them.
otherwise they pretty much lost this year, 7000 series is meh and 13th gen looks meh for the most part but their claims on min framerates and such will more than make up for their lack of huge gains without consuming a shit ton of power plus the platform is cheaper.
odd sand
i mean amd has a long way to go to gain market share for gpus, nvidia has had be...
They need non-doctored benchmarks and reliable drivers. Their biggest issue is their benchmarks are always doctored to make them sound insanely good, but when you read the fine print there are a ton of caveats bc they aren't using industry standard terms, and cherry-picking games or referring to use-cases 99% of ppl don't have etc. Then of course the drivers being crap, so people feel like buying one is owning a Lada.
hard drift
To an extent, even when the drivers are good like with rdna2 people won’t give them a chance though
hard drift
They need non-doctored benchmarks and reliable drivers. Their biggest issue is t...
Also everyone cherry picks and shit
odd sand
I know, but they're really bad about it.
This gen is no different. Their definitions for TDP and a few other terms are their own inventions and don't line up with standard usage
Which means when 3rd parties start doing benchs, you find out the results are way different than they appear from AMD's charts, which makes them look bad.
Bc then ppl don't want to trust any charts and figure they'll just stick to the safe choice: Nvidia.
hard drift
This gen is no different. Their definitions for TDP and a few other terms are th...
I mean intel doesn’t either lol
odd sand
How? Benchs I've seen they show both the stock and PL2 numbers
hard drift
Only recently
odd sand
Only thing they didn't bench was the "PL3" mode where it can hit like 350W or something
proven spade
whats up with intel pricing the new flagship so cheap
yeah, that for sure
well not everywhere though
there's a listing for 4080/4090 (FE) in a rly good shop (like a website that lists multiple shops and fetches the lowest price)
should I go ahead and buy one the moment it releases ?
royal forge
This gonna be good
Right after the whole twitch drama
Wow. A fair-ish shake
I mean, its essentially a prebuilt but
Not too nuts v others
odd sand
That was the intel stock cooler wasn't it?
odd sand
The stock cooler that couldn't even properly cool a stock config /s
potent arrow
I rarely turned the thing off 🤣
odd sand
Mismatched generic ram, nice
potent arrow
It ran pretty well suprisingly
tame tartan
mass-production zuckerborg prototype
modest moss
What are you sending? There must be some cheaper way
I guess you'd want insurance on those
graceful pine
the pound's value is dropping anyway
modest moss
Canada Post 25 bucks uninsured
modest moss
loll I put 1kg
late kraken
Curious. Anyone own a Nvidia Shield? Is it worth buying one or no?
I have steam link app on my samsung tv. Not sure if having Nvidia Shield makes it any different
sharp star
Nvidia doesn't fucking know what to do with the Shield anymore
sly elk
nais
potent arrow
Die
royal forge
ok...
I THINK i know what's happening to my laptop
maybe
i suspect it's something to do with the power management
see, it turns off the screen and doesn't respond to input
so a force restart
but it wont register as an error
could it just be it's sorta going to sleep, but like, ya know, a fucking coma?
untold onyx
The stock cooler that couldn't even properly cool a stock config /s
That version wasn't too bad actually. It's the later one with the cooling fins at half the height that was trash.
odd sand
Think the far right is what my dad has in the garage
deep sapphire
Think the far right is what my dad has in the garage
It’s winking at us
boreal surge
remind me again why people suck at agreeing on things
sly walrus
Think the far right is what my dad has in the garage
... is this loss?
deep sapphire
I learned that Japan uses the NEMA outlet but they don’t use another pin for ground
sly elk
I learned that Japan uses the NEMA outlet but they don’t use another pin for gro...
I mean, they have that little green wire you're supposed to screw to the outlet cover or whatever
I mean
totally makes sense and is convenient, right?
sly elk
i think the best one is the UK one
the outlets have cute little switches
and uk plugs are huge
odd sand
... is this loss?
What do you mean loss?
odd sand
I learned that Japan uses the NEMA outlet but they don’t use another pin for gro...
Yep, when I went on my trip to Japan I had to buy an adapter in Akiba to use my laptop power cable
royal forge
Japan plugs be whack
Its like, just two prongs
What do US ones look like
Oh. Same as JP
Aus is the super whack one
real edge
only for the small small price of 500w
jaunty light
Audios AMD bros <:GigaChad1:875364873268232202>
🔊
royal forge
The empire strikes back
paper tusk
and uk plugs are huge
it's so the plug doesn't try to kill you if pull it the wrong way. and a fuse in the plug itself (*usually) for surge protection
sly elk
@deep sapphire ya know I like knocking ford in a humorous way but dude WTF is this.
the 2.7l v6 is a real monstrosity
goodness gracious
sly elk
perhaps I was lied to
but looking at pics of one installed in a bronco
it's one of those things where you open the hood
look inside for a moment
and close the hood
deep sapphire
Such a great engine they used it for 2 years
deep sapphire
God I hate ford wtf is that
They seriously have the dumbest engineers
Gotta love the webbed plastic intake manifold
That looks cheap
real edge
that looks like someones first pc build without any cable management
sly elk
lmao
it makes me wanna vomit
i'm laughing because even as an engineer and a kinda soft guy I like buying cars with engine bays that I could imagine myself working on
this. no.
I have a feeling if you drove that to any indie shop they'd also shake their heads lmao
deep sapphire
Ford continues to have problems with head gaskets because it uses an open deck cooling system and the contact surface is too narrow for the head gasket to make a proper seal
I’m convinced Ford has no clue how to make an engine, from the 5.3, the durashit V6s and pretty much every eco boost they all have terrible reliability
sly elk
yea it's too bad
they make the mustang and bronco, and on paper I thought their little euro fords were really cool
but my goodness
they should just partner with toyota or vw on engines
deep sapphire
Plus because the block and heads are made of shit aluminum casting once they overheat they’re done
sly elk
or something idk
deep sapphire
No thanks give me iron like GM and RAM
sly elk
it's how these 5000lb behemoths get 26mpg highway
odd sand
What do US ones look like
A lot of smaller electronics only use the 2 prong ones, but larger electronics use 3 (ground).
deep sapphire
LT and Hemi use iron blocks with aluminum heads
sly elk
so here's something fun
true, the pentastar is all aluminum and plastic though
ahem composite
why is it whenever someone posts a pic of gaming or working on a laptop with a tv attached
the laptop is almost always setup in the stupidest way
I remember seeing coworker WFH setups like this
deep sapphire
Plus it’s portal like cool?
deep sapphire
Guess when the orange box came out I was the only one that gave a shit about TF2
sly elk
A lot of smaller electronics only use the 2 prong ones, but larger electronics u...
virtually anything that costs more than $100 uses a 3 prong
deep sapphire
I played a ton of TFC
odd sand
eg: phones, BD player, game console, TVs, receivers etc. use 2, but like most laptops use 3, computers, etc.
deep sapphire
Make a TF3 valve pls
sly elk
except like cell phones
also most things with metal shells
it's funny that game consoles still often use 2
IMHO there's no reason for that
it';s just a tradition thing
odd sand
Honestly I feel like a lot less use 3 these days, but there are still a few higher powered things that use 3. Or its 2prong ones plugged into surge protectors that themselves have 3
sly elk
most decent laptop adapters have 3
odd sand
TFC? Get that shit outta here. All about TF1
odd sand
The only laptop I've owned with a 2prong is my current surface studio laptop ... and also it can't seem to properly charge the laptop if its playing games
sly elk
to be fair, apple power bricks support 3 in the dumbest way, but they don't come with the extension cord anymore so you only get 2 unless you buy the cord
(fucking greedy bastards)
deep sapphire
Goldsrc games had the best sound effects lmao
All that reverb and low sample quality give it such a charm
sly elk
i kinda miss the character of old games running MIDI music
especially if you had a funky midi sound card
jaunty light
I’m convinced Ford has no clue how to make an engine, from the 5.3, the durashit...
hey man
u dont want a $90k truck that breaks down after 2000 highway miles?
ford: i see all of these japanese companies putting TT v6 in a sports car, why cant we do it in a truck?
jaunty light
wheres the r36 gtr i want it
odd sand
If I buy a new SSD for my parents PC, do you guys have any recommended disk cloning software?
jaunty light
if it actually looked like this hnng
odd sand
Would rather copy the existing drive than reinstall if possible
jaunty light
I've never had an issue with the samsung cloner but idk if they support cloning to non-sammy drives
id assume any major SSD mfg would have one though
odd sand
Their system is 10 years old so I'm going to pre-emptively install a new drive assuming I can still read the old one. Mom texted me the other day saying it wouldn't boot, so I'm hoping it's just a bad cable or SATA port
I guess it's possible it could be a bad motherboard as well, so maybe I should tote my desktop with me for troubleshooting to test the existing drive
jaunty light
a bit older than a decade but I used to have wack ass problems with p45 chipsets like that
mobo would flip shit, not boot, all you had to do is clear CMOS and then it stopped caring like ???
deep sapphire
if it actually looked like this hnng
Weeb car for a vtuber fan
deep sapphire
jaunty light
i still want the hyundai n74
i wish ed wouldn't have posted it here, I think about it every day
potent arrow
God the more I read into this twitch streamer SI shit the more annoyed I get
Because they are making the same mistakes I made in fucking grade 10 🤣
Some of those old configs where fucking whack
royal forge
A lot of smaller electronics only use the 2 prong ones, but larger electronics u...
interesting
odd sand
Otherwise I'll do like a $200 upgrade on it. Amazon has Core i3 10100 for $80 and I can just buy a $10 old quadro card since they don't game on it
odd sand
That + mobo + some ram should be $200 or less
I don't want to have to troubleshoot garbage for another 10 years
odd sand
I built their current one, a Core i3 3220 and I literally haven't had to think about it for 10 years
potent arrow
If I buy a new SSD for my parents PC, do you guys have any recommended disk clon...
Personally how I treat my clients is copying personal files to a new drive
With a HDD dock
Cuz by the time they require a new system, a fresh install will help miles
odd sand
Only their insistence on sticking to inkjet printers until like 2-3 years ago when I finally took my mom to best buy to get a brother laser printer
potent arrow
But the two software tools I use is AOMEI and Macrium Reflect if clonning is necessary
odd sand
Maybe, but they literally don't do anything with it other than like zoom/skype, web browsing every so often to print stuff, etc.
jaunty light
odd sand
And I recently upgraded the Win 8.1 install to Win10
potent arrow
Also a cheap way to upgrade the gpu is find a cheap 1030 and slap it in
jaunty light
every time I win update there is a huge HEY DO YOU WANT TO TRY WINDOWS 11 YET??????? button, thank you micro$oft
potent arrow
i still have some 1030 and I need to purge em
odd sand
I was gonna do what I did for my server: PCIe 2009 Quadro cards are displayport and $9
odd sand
The bigger issue is their LCD monitor is VGA, so I would need an adapter then lol
potent arrow
I ordered a bunch of Lenovo stations, and they came with 1030 but the business wanted to upgrade them
jaunty light
Cortana will no longer be included in the first boot experience or pinned to the Taskbar. based?
odd sand
What business needs more than a 1030 unless they were using them for like Adobe acceleration or something?
potent arrow
It was for their ERM software, hardware acceleration or something
sly elk
The bigger issue is their LCD monitor is VGA, so I would need an adapter then lo...
you can get new hdmi monitors surprisingly cheap these days
potent arrow
Just slightly more compute iirc
sly elk
idk how good their monitor is, but if it's vga you can probably get them something better for <$100
jaunty light
"we need this $5000 laptop for CAD" the GPU is not cad certified
odd sand
It's an old 4:3 LCD panel from like 2004 or something maybe earlier. But they don't use it for anything important so I'd rather not even spend any money on it
sly elk
idk
potent arrow
That's not the weirdest business upgrade tbh
sly elk
in my mom's case, i just kept upgrading her computer to something she really wanted to use xD
because she's similar in like
"don't spend money on it I don't usee it for anything serious"
potent arrow
I've had some request that a certain pc get 2 x 8 USB 2.0 Expansion cards
sly elk
-gives mom something nice-
potent arrow
...for USB raid
potent arrow
Like....why did they want 4gb x 16 USB sticks in software raid...
odd sand
My parents spend most of their time on the tablets if they use the internet. THey only use the PC for church services when they don't feel like driving in person, or my dad will print shit from time to time and they don't use the wireless function much so he does it on the PC
sly elk
(my mom uses my old 34" monitor )
potent arrow
That was the weirdest shit
potent arrow
They didn't even give me a reason
jaunty light
what raid mode though
odd sand
They used software raid on USB memory sticks?
jaunty light
the sticks will just fail like clockwork after parity writes destroys the cards
play musical chairs with the sticks
potent arrow
It was a little while ago
I think it was raid 5?
Right?
One lost drive to redundancy?
I think
Didn't really make sense, but uh money is money
odd sand
"I don't have to support this raid setup right? Cool. Check cleared, have a nice day."
potent arrow
Yeeeep
Actually talking about mistakes I made when I was younger, I actually had a tough time finding a CPU that had enough lanes iirc
God damn, you know the more I think about it
What are you going to do with hat little space
I wonder if it's like a single excel sheet that's 4-5gb that they want to protect or something
Or an sql database
jaunty light
god if it was a database that would be awful
like did they have NO alternative storage, anywhere? because just copying cold data to 16 sticks would be more reliable than trying to make a software raid with flash
potent arrow
Fuck knows
Honestly, there has to be a reason I'm missing
But I'm drawing blanks
Wonder if the system is still running, and how many cycles are on those sticks (if they are still alive lol)
jaunty light
I was surprised to find now there are some industrial or surveillance SD cards with respectable numbers, 200TBW
odd sand
My bet is on they had some ancient system they frankensteined that storage setup for with hardlinked files and they don't want to rewrite the scripts/software
So they decided to just have new systems copy the same idiotic setup
potent arrow
My bet is on they had some ancient system they frankensteined that storage setup...
I guess that makes sense
Horrific
But makes sense
royal forge
I swear to god this shit is on a timer
potent arrow
I was surprised to find now there are some industrial or surveillance SD cards w...
I garantee 19 year old me used some random SanDisk USB drives from best buy bargain bin
royal forge
Its not even haha funny anymore
potent arrow
Lol night shinon
Honestly given up on aoi, just hope they fucking yeet the laptop already and build a PC or buy an actual laptop
royal forge
My impression of Aoi's laptop situation. Also me going to bed
Nite
jaunty light
oh yeah fedex bloomington has struck again with my XLR cables
mistaking "CA" with "PA" simple mistake
royal forge
Honestly given up on aoi, just hope they fucking yeet the laptop already and bui...
Im waiting on price drops
Got a friend who's workin at the amd factory
Been kinda tryin to get cheap cpus frm them
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sly elk
that sounds like a lot of money
jaunty light
just reach into the ASML machine and steal a chip
royal forge
just reach into the ASML machine and steal a chip
I wish
jaunty light
I wonder what would happen to your hand if you touched the light
royal forge
Or whatever the fuck its called
sly elk
they pull that shit on me sometimes too
jaunty light
recently UPS has been the most reliable. I used to have no problems with usps and fedex until recently
now I've had like 5 packages lost by USPS, fedex will randomly decide to send shit cross country
sly elk
fedex is my least favorite part about buying stuff from walmart
jaunty light
now im crious I don't remember if my shotty went through fedex or not
sly elk
i like that I can turn my wiz lights on/off over vpn a couple hundred miles away
jaunty light
I want some addressable strips so I can give myself a headache
"music mode" where nobody knows what it's actually supposed to do, so it just flashes random colors horrifically
these amazon product pictures.. always golden
paper tusk
hopefully its more rave mode than seizure mode
jaunty light
it could just be that asus sync sucks
because if I set anything to music mode it turns off and on and that's it
sly elk
yea the wiz lights i'm using for the ceilings aren't.. the same as running LED light strips
IMHO both sorts are very fun to play with
the regular ceiling lights, you can use them as 100% normal lights and then just use the rave mode for fun XD
or run the rave mode at really low brightness as a night light
deep sapphire
But AMD is made here
DEFUSED IN MALAYSIA
DEFUSED IN MY ASS INTEL NUMBER 1 BABY LETS FUCKIN GO BANKRUPT AMD
Fight the ford mechanics lol
jaunty light
Werent malay chips the ideal ones for intel?
deep sapphire
jaunty light
Or am i misrmembering
deep sapphire
Intel fabricated 90 percent of their shit in the states
AMD are gross communists smh 🤦♀️ 🤦♂️ 🤦
sly elk
i don't know that I've ever gotten an intel chip that was made in the US
deep sapphire
(I’m joking don’t get mad at me)
You most likely have cause almost every fab plant is in America
They have a couple in Israel
jaunty light
All of my intels were malay iirc
My 8700k was, which was apparently most desirable for OC
except i got a lemon anyways
sly elk
lol
sly elk
yea my 9700k wasn't a particularly great chip either in terms of power/running cool/etc
deep sapphire
Yeah back when apple made all their computers in the states
sly elk
they still make the mac pro in the states
deep sapphire
I think the latest Mac Pro is yeah
sly elk
i thought they just assembled it here but they actually make the boards and stuff too
but it's all automated so meh
deep sapphire
Didn’t they even make a commercial about that lol
sly elk
but still
deep sapphire
BUY A MAC MADE IN MURICA
sly elk
kinda made me happy to see it on the bottom of the trash can i bought a few months ago ❤️
pick and place machines are neat
jaunty light
never trust anything named cobra
deep sapphire
Hnnnng that milling
deep sapphire
never trust anything named cobra
COBRA is a scam lmao
Damn got the HURST SHIFTER
you know he means business there
deep sapphire
I just watched it now smh
jaunty light
sme takes no shit from nobody!
why the fuck is this $6000?
it really looks like they went to home depot, got the waste bin plywood, then stuck it together
deep sapphire
royal forge
DEFUSED IN MALAYSIA
HEY THE ONE THING I CAN BE PROUD OF
jaunty light
gotta go out of your way to inject candy with drugs
doesn't this just stem from that time a guy tried to kill his kids with poisoned candy and said it was from trick or treating
sly elk
That’s fucked up
jaunty light
guess there's more than a few it could've been
laxative pills handed out to kiddos in the 60s, lol
hard drift
jaunty light
if they can actually sell it at $300 and the drivers dont suck ass this might be fine
hard drift
I mean if it’s barely beating a 3060 for the a770 idk…
royal forge
So the new AMD chips do not offer much of an improvement, right?
hard drift
So the new AMD chips do not offer much of an improvement, right?
correct
jaunty light
they are good chips but they're not efficient
royal forge
While the new intel is due when?
hard drift
over a 12th gen/x3d atleast
jaunty light
few weeks
hard drift
While the new intel is due when?
18 days or something like that
royal forge
Which is rumoured to beat the shit outta amd?
hard drift
and they don't offer much as well except for min framerates
hard drift
Which is rumoured to beat the shit outta amd?
lmao only if you let it draw 270w+
hard drift
they both generally suck for gains this time around
royal forge
I have started talkin to local sellers and they had told me they had some SFFs in stock
But i dunoe if its feasible
jaunty light
miniature space heater
hard drift
like intel really didn't want to put a 4th bar, once amd releases 7000 series x3d it's a loss
jaunty light
if I upgrade it's only for an X3D proc. or I guess a 13900KS if it's still beating the x3ds overall
royal forge
If i decide to cough out a 4090, i dont think a SFF would cut it
hard drift
If i decide to cough out a 4090, i dont think a SFF would cut it
100% won't cut it
jaunty light
but yeah seeing as the 13900 is only edging out the 5800 slightly RIP
hard drift
if I upgrade it's only for an X3D proc. or I guess a 13900KS if it's still beati...
13900ks will not beat an x3d overall at all
royal forge
I dont know if i can do a full size
deep sapphire
INTEL IS THE BEST
hard drift
they've have to pull some massive shit for 13900ks to overall beat an x3d
deep sapphire
PROUDLY MADE IN USA
royal forge
THEN SHIP EM TO ME
hard drift
PROUDLY MADE IN USA
say that about their gpus 
jaunty light
if I get a KS though I lose the benefits of having the gpu component
deep sapphire
INTEL NUMBER 1
hard drift
INTEL NUMBER 1
intel number 1 at lying about release dates 
deep sapphire
AMD BTFO ALREADY
royal forge
Hank, seen any neat lookin cases lately?
jaunty light
It's launched!
(we haven't started to ship to distributors yet though)
get the hyte
you know you want it
deep sapphire
Nah I don’t follow that stuff anymore
hard drift
It's launched!
(we haven't started to ship to distributors yet though)
it's launched! only in south korea
royal forge
Hank too busy following cars
royal forge
Me dad just got a lexus
jaunty light
gotta wonder if that guy is a fuckin criminal
hard drift
mclaren still looks way better than a chevy any day hank 🙏 sorry to say it
deep sapphire
Wrong
jaunty light
his instagram name is for lamborghinis, and he got his p1 in lambo yellow
then goes and gets it totaled
hard drift
Which is rumoured to beat the shit outta amd?
oh yeah also intels testing was also really bad lmao
jaunty light
anyways I wanna do water go buy me a custom loop hank
royal forge
oh yeah also intels testing was also really bad lmao
Ah
hard drift
Ah
they used 3200 kit on amd while using 5600 on their own
and it was an extremely low cache latency
royal forge
Gotta wait on GN then
jaunty light
gamers
sly elk
The guesses on types of sleep are interesting
