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umbral moss
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RT is de wae overall but it will be a long fuckin time before it approaches mainstream

deep sapphire
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Which is decent, the price leap isn’t but the bump in performance is good

hard drift
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i mean i hope not considering they said 2x lol

deep sapphire
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We’ll just have to wait and see

hard drift
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i have a feeling especially if people don't care about raytracing, amd will be the way to go this gen purely for price/powerdraw. raytracing though, amd is dead in the water

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yeah but you better be getting 40 series haha

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i was seriously considering the 4080 12gb purely for nvenc/remix but given no founders card i'll have to wait and see now 🙏

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true 🙏

deep sapphire
hard drift
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amd is doing great just some of you refuse to give it a chance YenEvil

deep sapphire
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Sorry we only gave 5 percent allocation to Radeon have fun trying to buy one

deep sapphire
hard drift
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you won't even get 1000 for it considering a new 3090 is roughly 1.1k

deep sapphire
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No it doesn’t

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The HD 5000 series performance wise was better than nvidia

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Yet it was still a pile of shit

hard drift
deep sapphire
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Nvidia has an 80+ percent market share in dedicated graphics

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I don’t think they care

hard drift
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nvidia got complacent with pascal and did turing while amd was pulling up real quick and we are where we are now ASevil

deep sapphire
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Pascal was great

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Wym

hard drift
hard drift
# deep sapphire Wym

yeah it was so great they failed to truly make a better generation with turing

deep sapphire
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The 1080Ti was one of the best values in history

hard drift
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and because of their tunnel vision focus on raytracing they won't make a generational improvement like that again ASevil

deep sapphire
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Yeah why would I wanna buy something that will cost probably the same and have far less support from developers and gamble with driver issues

umbral moss
deep sapphire
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Corporations aren’t my friends

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You make the best product I’ll buy it

hard drift
odd sand
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It's just pathetic that Nvidia is addicted to their covid revenue levels, so now bc they own the market they feel they can just charge whatever price will guarantee they keep revenues at that level (they hope)

hard drift
deep sapphire
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RDNA 2 had good raster performance but it was nearly neck and neck with 3000 series yet lacked any dedicated hardware acceleration for neural tech

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And it costed nearly the same

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So how is AMD value again?

hard drift
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i mean it didn't cost the same hank

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1k usd for highest end msrp vs 1500 usd msrp for nvidia highest end

deep sapphire
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But it literally did, they were 50 bucks shy on almost every SKU it competed with

odd sand
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They could make more affordable cards if they want to, but they won't.

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How much you want to bet 4060 will be like $600

hard drift
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mcm will make it cheaper than being on tsmc and being monolithic still

deep sapphire
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It’s okay AMD already proved they aren’t your friend so being a fanboy is pointless

hard drift
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none of them are your friend lol especially not intel haha

deep sapphire
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When they release 6 core CPUs in 2022 for prices that exceed Intel

hard drift
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intel is that awful friend that says "can i borrow 20 bucks, i'll pay you back next week" and keeps taking rainchecks

deep sapphire
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They sure love the customer

hard drift
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nvidia is that one friend that tries to control the friend group

odd sand
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Just doesn't make any sense to me how AMD can be pretty savvy in the hardware sphere, but can't design firmware or drivers to save their life

hard drift
deep sapphire
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Like I’m taking your word

odd sand
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90%+ of the GPU issues ppl have had in here over the last 2 years were AMD issues

hard drift
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rdna 1 was a testament to how bad amd was for drivers. rdna 2 is a godsend and shows they are actually trying because it's been fucking buttery smooth for the most part

deep sapphire
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Which is even more pathetic given how poorly RDNA 2 sold

hard drift
deep sapphire
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AMD already showed Radeon is on the back burner

hard drift
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and that shit had hardware problems

deep sapphire
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Ryzen has better margins

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Sells way more

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They don’t give a shit about Radeon

odd sand
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Especially after they raised prices with 5000 series

deep sapphire
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Neither do I

hard drift
deep sapphire
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Intel and nvidia dominate market shares and will continue to do so

odd sand
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ngl I wish AMD GPUs were better bc Nvidia are diiiiiicks

hard drift
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eh, idk i think amd is going to creep up on the markets real quick especially with amd being the best choice for mobile especially with their igpus

hard drift
deep sapphire
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AMD is stuck with low production capabilities

hard drift
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they need to compete to keep their egos and shit in check

deep sapphire
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Radeon is dead

hard drift
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love? pfft hell no

odd sand
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Yes and currently Nvidia has had 85% market-share for like a decade+ so they are hyperdicks

deep sapphire
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Post dog shit in the chat

hard drift
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lets go grilling 😎

deep sapphire
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The 480 was indeed a meme

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Good times the memes were hilarious

sly walrus
deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
hard drift
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space heater for a mansion for cheap 😎

deep sapphire
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That took a lot of digging

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Them bitches ran toasty

hard drift
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lol

modest moss
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nah you all suck

hard drift
deep sapphire
modest moss
hard drift
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why did you waste 20 dollars smh

modest moss
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because he's rich and dumb

hard drift
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you can get better 😐

modest moss
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does it have an sd slot?

hard drift
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no lmao

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apple never would allow that deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

modest moss
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how much storage?

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uh

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so it's pointless

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in what quality, 64kbps?

hard drift
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lmfao

modest moss
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even so

hard drift
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could've gotten an old nokia n8 and done music on it

modest moss
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128 then lol

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fuck anything below V0

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bitch please

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you code for MS

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they pay you plenty, you just spend more

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to be clear I'm not actually judging you, but c'mon, it's choices

sharp star
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figma balls

spare elbow
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any ideas as to what's going on with google

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seems like anti-malware is marking it as malware

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or its just not working

jaunty light
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Who wants a 3090 for the sweet low price of 800 usd

hard drift
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Not a chance

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I would pay at most 500 for a 3090 given how used they probably are at this point

jaunty light
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For bidori, $900

hard drift
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I wouldn’t even consider a 3090

jaunty light
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Mine is a nice brand new strix. It just aint the white model SelenLick

hard drift
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4080 12gb if it had an FE maybe

potent arrow
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Man you actually had me untill you said it wasn't the white model lol

hard drift
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Lmao

jaunty light
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I can spraypaint it ford oxford white

potent arrow
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N o

hard drift
jaunty light
umbral moss
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now that I saw those game dolls this morning, my life has not known peace

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it's only $2800, think of the memes

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yeah probably

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having fittings and a correctly installed block is extremely underrated

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why, did you fill it with bricks?

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if you have a waterblock it should weigh almost nothing

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what

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did they make it out of fucking osmium?

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why is it so heavy?

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saying the product name doesn't explain why it's heavier than my GPU's air cooling module

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is it all useless ancillary aluminum?

late basalt
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So…. Uselessly large then?

umbral moss
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annealed stainless steel

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the fuck for

jaunty light
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Why not

umbral moss
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it's heavy and steel is a shit thermal conductor

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if you make it thin enough to be light like aluminum it has worse tensile properties than aluminum in the same weight category

odd sand
jaunty light
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Sarah dont want :(

dull garnet
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1.3KG is a MacBook Air lol

dull garnet
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oh what

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just updated windows 11 and now folders kinda show what is in them

umbral moss
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🤔

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hasn't that always been a thing?

dull garnet
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wasn't like that an hour ago

modest moss
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it's a setting

dull garnet
modest moss
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doesn't look quite the same but in a folder's properties you can optimise for a certain kind of content

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that's w10

burnt swallow
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I has question

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Does Win10 like to randomly install Spotify

modest moss
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it comes with it

odd sand
# dull garnet

Didn't that already used to be a thing? I remember in Win7 at least

umbral moss
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yeah, I always remember seeing thumbnails in folder icons

dull garnet
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spotify windows app is cringe because i can't use adblock on it

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browser ver ftw

burnt swallow
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Spotify launched itself when I turned my PC on

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I subsequently nuked Spotify into orbit

odd sand
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I think it installed Skype for me or something one time and I had to immediately uninstall it again heh

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One W11 annoyance: Teams and "Teams for Work or School" are two identical but separate apps

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They decided the Skype and Skype for business confusion should be carried forward

umbral moss
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and then promptly smothered skype and pretended it never existed

odd sand
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The icons for them are the same, just inverted colors, so I keep forgetting which is which

burnt swallow
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Imagine using W11

dull garnet
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11 is like using 10

umbral moss
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the free market is too free and the shareholders don't like it

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just price fix in direct contradiction to supply

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although it's worth noting that nvidia did warn everyone a few years ago

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saying that the price per die would go up massively when they started producing 7nm and smaller feature sizes

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sure as shit, the prices have been right on that curve

dull garnet
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I member when £400 bought a flagship card

umbral moss
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I member when $200 bought a flagship card

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and the delta between an $80 and $200 card was rivatuner haha

dull garnet
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Lol

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Yeah I remember those Radeon cards

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I was thinking 6800 Ultra

umbral moss
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9800 pro cards

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or the 9700 pros that were intentionally sold as gimped 9700 non pros and you could unlock them with the bios

odd sand
dull garnet
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Even then the ultra was barely faster than the £300 pro

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No wait, GT

odd sand
umbral moss
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each lovelace GPU is what, almost 100 billion transistors now?

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if enough transistors come out defective the whole die is toast, so you're yielding fewer chips per wafer on the whole

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and the ones you do yield tend to have something wrong with them so you get more of the mid/gimped skus

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old logic of "new node = cheaper chips" was because the transistor count didn't go up that much, and you got way more dies per wafer as a result

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so even if you had a handful of shit wafers you still had a shitload of full-spec dies per day

paper tusk
odd sand
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Shouldn't the whole cuda cores thing be kinda like chiplets though?

umbral moss
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as far as I know nvidia doesn't offset designs like that

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it's all or nothing

jaunty light
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Everything is falling apart, world war 3 will happen, places will start to become uninhabitable, just spend that money now

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All downhill from here bois

inland mauve
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no

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I refuse to give in to the doomer mindset

jaunty light
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Here's my link to an rtx 4090. I earn commission btw

dull garnet
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so you're saying buy a 4090

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i'd love to make a terrible financial decision like that one day

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as a treat

jaunty light
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Just do it

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Buy 10 bottles of vodka and drink them all

dull garnet
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i don't drink

jaunty light
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Time to start

deep sapphire
umbral moss
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the good old "it's the G80 GPU but we changed the number for the fifth generation"

deep sapphire
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The 3080 at MSRP was a pretty fuckin good value, guess they figured they priced it too low and now are doing a 20 series again haha

dull garnet
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they already fixed that with the 3080 Ti

umbral moss
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since people were buying 3080s at $1600 no problem

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for two years

deep sapphire
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The 4090 isn’t even the worst offender, the 4070 is by far

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A fuckin 192 bit memory interface card that almost costs 1000 bucks wtf were they thinking

umbral moss
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the 4090 is actually weirdly reasonable since it's a titan equivalent

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they probably want people to buy the 4090 since the performance delta is significant but the cost isn't

deep sapphire
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The 4090 seems like it’s priced well for what it is though 1500 bucks for a single component is getting a little ridiculous

umbral moss
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eh, the titan has always cost that much

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the titan in my machine cost $1200 in 2016

deep sapphire
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PC gaming is gonna end up dying when they price everyone out of it

umbral moss
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eh, kinda, the performance you get out of midrange hardware is insanely good now

deep sapphire
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Why would you wanna pay 1600 bucks for a graphics card when 500 bucks gets you a full gaming system lol

umbral moss
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you don't need a 4090 except for e-peen rights

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for me, I upgrade once a decade so buying a powerful machine once beats upgrading it every other year

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the cycle only resets if I manage to blow something up

deep sapphire
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My 1070 still works but I don’t game enough to justify upgrading for now

umbral moss
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you say that like nvidia isn't known for doing that lmao

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the 3090 is the previous generation halo card, it shouldn't be getting dunked on by the new x80 card

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you only see a delta when new tech is involved, which is why my titan is still relevant in most games even though it's from fuckin 2016

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raytracing is more of a gimmick than a standard feature and I don't need DLSS

hard drift
sly elk
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i really don't feel that bad because I did a calculation once and found I spent about $1000-1100 by buying/selling to get my way to the 3080ti lol

dull garnet
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bought my 3060 ti for £369, sold my 1070 ti for 220

mortal condor
dull garnet
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sure, buy three ps5s

umbral moss
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it's more powerful than four PS5s in tandem lmao

dull garnet
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its also 150 cheeseburgers

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wait

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1500 cheeseburgers

fair parcel
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150 monkaW

dull garnet
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depends on the cheeseburger

umbral moss
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150 is about right if you buy a decent burger

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you're only getting grey mystery meat and one sad slap of american cheese-like product for $1

fair parcel
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yeah actually

umbral moss
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even $10 for a burger is pretty rare these days

mortal condor
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For a single PC component. It's more than a little ridiculous at this point. Sad thing is Nvidia has no competition in the market to help regulate the prices. AMD is their closest competitor and they just aren't at that level yet

umbral moss
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bold of you to think AMD won't charge $1500 for their GPU if it's competitive with the 4090

fair parcel
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yeah AMD Painge

dull garnet
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driver blocks your path

fair parcel
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exactly

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all fun & games until you can't play x game for 4 months

dull garnet
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can always roll back. ultimately don't buy until you can at least get a feel for where the drivers are

late basalt
sly elk
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five guys definitely does

modest moss
modest moss
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why would I

paper tusk
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[culver's gang]

sly elk
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i've had the little burger a couple times when i went with coworkers lol

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think I've been there 2 or 3 times total and really, not interested in doing it again at those prices lol

dull garnet
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gf uses a 1050 Ti too. Does for ff14 and Minecraft

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It's a proper crap oem card but it creates so little heat it doesn't really matter

umbral moss
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you really enjoy the taste of antifreeze?

modest moss
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same

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how does my wife's gpu leap to you drinking antifreeze

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@umbral moss does your gf feed you antifreeze when you surprise her?

umbral moss
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women tend to use poison when they want revenge

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

modest moss
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both of those statements are pretty fucked up

umbral moss
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🤔

jaunty light
hard drift
jaunty light
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this goofy

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i dont think this is an improvement

hard drift
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i have the mini uwucarby

jaunty light
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dont u like when a product is just good

hard drift
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it's convenient deeerppride that's the only reason i got it

jaunty light
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hmm

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its impossible to do this abx but maybe it actually is an improvement, still really hard to tell

jaunty light
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man I don't want to fall into this headfi ass language, but I swear on amp it's less boomy and less harsh at the same volume

odd sand
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Penguins are at the Wild early this season, Nov 17th. So maybe I can pick up a 13900K from Microcenter while I'm in town

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And visit that wacky new 4 lane drive-thru Taco Bell /s

jaunty light
sharp star
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGARjRBJRX8 god those Galax cards are cringe

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EVGA left the game for 1 week and the entire video card industry has lost its mind. In this video, we'll walk through the marketing madness, silly names, and, in some cases, bizarre designs of the NVIDIA RTX 4090, RTX 4080 16GB, and RTX 4080 12GB partner model video cards. This includes video...

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sharp star
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http://szgalaxy.com/__ZH_GB__/News5/NewsDetail?newsID=956 if this were in Nvidia's initial press release Jensen would slowly walk to the nearest bathroom and wail like a banshee out of cringe

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incredible

dull garnet
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tfw no waifu card

sharp star
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Galax right now

royal forge
dull garnet
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boomstar lmao

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boomer card confirmed

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would look good with trident z royal

royal forge
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the bigger the cards, the bigger the boobies

sly elk
sly elk
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Well not enough to buy it

royal forge
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im just.. blown away

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how.. how the fuck are you meant to do an ITX build

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with THIS shit

sharp star
royal forge
eager sandal
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what do you guys think is more worth

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heard nitro 5 has a lot of thermal issues, i also found another with just a 1050 with a way lower price than these two

sly elk
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u/AsteroidFilter avatar
AsteroidFilter
12h
Moore's Law no longer observes the density of transistors on integrated circuits. It now applies to the price of Nvidia graphics cards.

tame tartan
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i propose we therefore rename it to "moore's tax" poppo

lost python
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Man i would unironically put a waifu card into my PC, but what's the point if it's just some random weird character

lost python
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Also don't get a laptop with a HDD

eager sandal
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its better than what i have rn and i'll take it

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the affordability of laptops in my country is pretty bad compared to the US, for some context

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dont really plan to play much triple A games anyway

dull garnet
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the acer is newer

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worse cpu though

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i doubt any gaming laptop in that price range is free from thermal issues

potent arrow
dull garnet
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well

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i'm sure some don't throttle... perhaps

modest moss
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I won't be buying anything for about a decade

hard drift
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trident z royal looks awful.... don't buy it 😭

modest moss
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who, apart from Ice, needs to plug and unplug their gpu over 30 times?

hard drift
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just in general for cleaning/changing things potentially, also not being able to reuse it for later

dull garnet
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you'll be able to rest your pp on your video card

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AMD

modest moss
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I kinda want that

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tell me not to buy it

umbral moss
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the duo 1 isn't very good

modest moss
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it's so cool though

umbral moss
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get the duo 2 if you absolutely must

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the duo 1 won't get android 13 and it's very much a tech demo that somehow made it into retail

modest moss
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duo 2 is like 3x the price, there's no value there for me

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I'll just skip it

umbral moss
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the duo 2 is also kind of a weird product, it should be good but it... isn't especially whelming?

modest moss
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not really, it's out of stock everywhere I look here

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microsoft suck horribly at selling hardware, xbox controllers constantly out of stock, these out of stock

dull garnet
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a dual screen tablet seems dogshit

umbral moss
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doesn't want to make hardware, but is stuck with it because ballmer managed to make a successful product line

dull garnet
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things that nerds pretend matter

modest moss
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does it tell the whole story or is it a shit meme

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like, is it equivalent to my 12700k having basically the same ghz as my 2500k whilst being massively faster

dull garnet
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it kinda matters in that 256 bit would be more throughput but if the memory is fast enough then it doesn't really matter

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i guess nvidia decided as such

modest moss
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the less I know about tech the happier I am

hard drift
dull garnet
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memory goes brrr

kindred brook
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EVGA left the game for 1 week and the entire video card industry has lost its mind. In this video, we'll walk through the marketing madness, silly names, and, in some cases, bizarre designs of the NVIDIA RTX 4090, RTX 4080 16GB, and RTX 4080 12GB partner model video cards. This includes video...

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LOl they measure a slot at 3.15 slots?

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wtf

dull garnet
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need a cyberpunk design to play fortnite

sly walrus
kindred brook
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Yes

hard drift
kindred brook
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can I get a .15 slot

hard drift
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No small slot cards for mid-high end 😭

odd sand
modest moss
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gimmicks are amusing, but I saw sense

hard drift
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i mean i'd prefer it over foldable one screen phones

sly elk
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man oso far those 40 series cards look like shit

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wait is that a waifu card

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an armored waifu

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hideous armor but damn bro

modest moss
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just don't care about what your pc looks like, only care about what it can do

sly elk
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also steve needs to wash his hair

modest moss
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hide that shit under your desk

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have more desk space

sly elk
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i think it's the AIBprofit margins

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also

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maybe nv did that to get people to stop making better looking cards than their ugly FE cards

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ye the new strix is ...

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oh wow the new tuf is fugly

modest moss
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return to cream coloured desktop form factor

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free monitor stand

odd sand
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I suppose you could have YT fullscreen on the one side, then using reddit or something on the other one

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Hopefully there is a way to lock the one side so you can't futz with it

modest moss
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look at these beauties

odd sand
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It comes with onboard USB? Oh SHIT

sly elk
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sure they did

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USB on PCs has been a possibility since 1997

dull garnet
sly elk
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granted, most companies that used those cases probably didn't bother to use it

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the weird ass looking compaqs had it, and sony vaios had it

odd sand
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I think I first had a USB mouse around 2000 or so

sly elk
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usb port is behind that grey cover

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nobody took USB seriously until apple made the imac lol

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but it was on PCs before apple made the imac

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there was a weird phase where beige, black, and apple's spaceship cases were all being made at the same time

odd sand
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Yeah Intellimouse Optical in 2000 was my first USB mouse. Apparently they had one called the Intellimouse Explorer in 1999 that also did USB

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Part of the reason USB took longer to pick up is probably that drivers weren't installed by default for the HID to work on older Windows versions

umbral moss
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also because the PS/2 port was a hardware level change

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they had already routed the pins for the hardware interrupt to the CPU, so there was no reason to add a USB controller

sly elk
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i assume it was also because they had tons of ps/2 keyboards/mice and it was cheaper to produce those

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PS/2 is an annoying port

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and in windows 98, USB was not a high priority

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so if your cmputer got busy the mouse would lag lmao

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i like those retro setups people make on reddit

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who weren't around in the 90s so they don't get the details right

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that evga quality

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Man, when EVGA said they were done making GPU's they really meant it.

dull garnet
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kyanche penalising people for not using garbage power supplies

sly elk
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nono

umbral moss
paper tusk
modest moss
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@tame fulcrum

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dis you?

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you're lucky I didn't paste your actual face onto it

devout nexus
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hahaha

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nvidia acting like they the victim on call so funny

odd sand
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Just look at the size of the card compared to the backplate haha

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They need a new ATX case standard just to secure modern GPUs

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Or are we going back to horizontal FF cases? vivsmug

sharp star
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I have a GPU bracket in my case and that's gonna hang on for dear life

sly walrus
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aorus will happily sell you a new case that will fit the card

velvet flint
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Any recommendations for widgets

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The iphone ios 16 kind

sly walrus
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upright, probably

sly elk
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that reminds me, I could use a new ruler

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i bought a new tape measure and it's pretty nais

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oo this scale is pretty but I have no use for it

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lol I imagine my plastic scale I had in college is still in a box somewhere >>

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yea architect scales are funny because they're all in inches (in the US)

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engineering scales are mm though

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I have an Aorus fo48u on my desk connected through hdmi2.1 with its audio device disabled in windows.

Out of nowhere the speakers on the device start SCREAMING a high pitched buzz, I've never been so scared in my life. Turning the monitor off didn't stop it, pulling the power did.

sly elk
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gah powerpoint

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powerpoint keeps fucking the images in the slides up

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oracle ad email: choosing oracle over microsoft

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WHAT?!

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you chose microsoft, that's bad enough

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choosing oracle is like

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no

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it's like turning 18

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you have pictures of dodge chargers and challengers on the wall in your bedroom

#

you made a deal with your parents, they're going to buy you that dodge of your dreams!

#

you get to the dealer and they run the numbers and it just won't work

#

but we have this other option

sly walrus
#

the dodge at home

sly elk
#

the dodge at home

dull garnet
#

What an ugly stand

#

I'd rather pay a little more for a good stand

sly elk
#

999?

#

ah there's an alienware 38" that I think uses that panel

#

AW3821DW .. it used to be cheaper than the LG

#

it was why I was disappointed in the 34" oled

#

i thought we were finally done with 3440x1440 but no

#

blergh that LG looks gaudy

#

but if you use a vesa arm the stand goes away

#

been using that res for like 8 years

#

we have a few 38" at work, whenever i use one of those i feel lost in a sea of screen

#

it's nais

dull garnet
deep sapphire
#

I legit watch his videos

sly elk
#

Lol

#

Meanwhile I don’t even have dewalt

#

Also why are Milwaukee tape measures cheaper than Stanley

#

I felt really dumb paying more for that fat max but I remember

deep sapphire
#

Everyone else makes them that fail after 3 months, Stanley lasts 3 decades

paper tusk
#

I would say yay makita but I can't afford anything more because the batteries are stupid

jaunty light
#

I got a king bed with ur name on it

jaunty light
#

3k tf

boreal surge
#

Yeah problem is how much of a difference is a 3000 bed vs an 800 bed

#

But I’ll vouch for the don’t skimp on bed/chair bit

jaunty light
#

5/10, needs more power conectors

odd sand
#

Well it's also a king bed, those are going to be a lot more

#

Double pillowtop can be nice bc you can still flip the mattress. A single you can only rotate, so it wears out faster

sly elk
#

by the time it went missing it was probably 20 years old

#

hehe one of these

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
#

That thing is sweet

jaunty light
#

cocaine tools

sly elk
#

yea, then someone stole it ><

#

i used to have issues with plumbers and handymen stealing my shit

#

the case is plastic fantastic

paper tusk
#

https://www.amazon.com/Dreamfoam-Bedding-Cooling-Response-Mattress/dp/B07CYL45NG I got this 4 years ago. would go thicker/softer but it's been a trooper

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

sooo

#

-shrug- as someone who doesn't like either, which is worse? Tiktok or Twitter?

paper tusk
#

yes

#

tiktok is where 60 second video junkies go to turn their brain off. twitter is where you go to start a shit throwing competition

late basalt
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

sly elk
#

from the front it looks kinda ok

#

til you see the kenny's hoodie profile xD

paper tusk
sly elk
#

sheesh image uploads are slow af today

late basalt
#

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

sly elk
#

my favorite is when you update the phone and then it refuses to talk to the watch because the OS is too outdated

#

so then you go to update the watch, but the watch app won't talk to the watch

late basalt
#

that's the fucking problem i'm having

sly elk
#

so you go to the watch itself and go into settings and try to run the update

#

and it's like

late basalt
#

or

#

or

sly elk
#

FOR SECURITY YOU MUST ACCEPT THE TERMS ON YOUR PHONE

late basalt
#

when you're near the watch, the phone says nothing about updating the watch

sly elk
#

and like

late basalt
#

but god forbid you unlock your phone the moment you're out of range

sly elk
#

when that happened to my mom's watch

late basalt
#

pleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatchpleaseupdatewatch

sly elk
#

it would pop open the apple watch app on the iphone

late basalt
#

pleaseupdatewatch

sly elk
#

but it wouldn't show the fucking 'accept terms' screen

#

or something along those lines

late basalt
sly elk
#

IT WAS FUCKING BULLSHIT

#

I ended up having to wipe the watch

late basalt
#

i'm super fucking tempted to do just that

sly elk
#

tbh you might have to

late basalt
#

because every god damn fucking time the watch dings to the charging screen

sly elk
#

also, back when I was using a 5s and an apple watch s0

late basalt
#

it fucks the update download

sly elk
#

i think

#

shit no I can't remember

late basalt
#

LIKE FOR FUCKS SAKE YOU WANT THE GOD DAMN THING ON THE CHARGER TO UPDATE

sly elk
#

there was some point where I had an iphone where the watch after a software update refused to talk to the phone anymore because the OS on the phone was too old

#

and the phone couldn't get an update anymore 😄

#

but it was a pair that used to work together?

#

I can't remember X_X

late basalt
#

or the "cant check for updates because you're not connected to internet"

#

fuck you

#

i'm on the god damned wifi connection you shitsucking cancer

sly elk
#

also

late basalt
#

here's hoping NOT leaving the watch charging will at least download the damn update

sly elk
#

"this version of MacOS needs to be updated to pair with your iPhone"

#

or the opposite

#

also another one that always made me laugh was going to icloud.com

late basalt
#

that's why i dont use macs

sly elk
#

and then the same computer asking me if I authorized the browser to log in

jaunty light
sly elk
#

oh y

#

yes it is hahaha

real edge
#

what I meant is that with a poor system and a top-tier monitor for example ull get poor fps on a top tier display, but once you upgrade your system your monitor is there to support that extra performance with even better fps and game feel

#

that is what I meant by grow with you sort of thing

#

your monitor should be the ceiling that you try and reach with your system

#

if that makes sense

#

do not buy a poor monitor because you have a poor system cause the poor monitor will be absolute garbage when and if you decide to upgrade your system, there will be no ceiling

#

yeah

#

1440p 144fps is already possible on a lot of titles

#

the main thing holding back 4k

#

is displayport actually

#

there is not enough data flow in displayport right now to feed 4k and more than 120fps

#

unless you reduce your monitors color bitrate

#

from 10 to 8

#

sadly

#

even 1440p and 240hz is a stretch as to what displayport can handle with 10bit

#

its time we get new standards

#

with 10bit colors?

royal forge
#

Ice

#

Sell ur kidney

#

I want a 4090

#

If we both sell our kidneys we might be able to afford one

#

Damn richboi

real edge
#

america has ridiculous wages and ridiculous living costs, so a 4090 is like a 4th of someones monthly wages over there

royal forge
#

Damnnn

#

Its more than 1 month of my salary

real edge
jaunty light
#

Its unfortunate colorful isnt in us

#

Id get the neptune

sly elk
#

i'm pretty darn sure that won't work

#

never seen a usb to serial dongle like that green one before though

odd sand
sly elk
#

you can get an alphacool aio kit for GPUs

jaunty light
#

Nope

sly elk
#

it's not quite as pretty as the neptune but it's still pretty cool

jaunty light
#

Customs is free up to about $800ish

sly elk
jaunty light
#

I aint paying duty on $2k gpu

sly elk
#

i'm sure they'd do the same again for the 40 series

real edge
sly elk
#

I thought about getting this myself for funsies

real edge
#

wow the contrast is dreadful

sly elk
#

I think i'd then move my 360 cpu aio onto the front of the case and put that one on top lol

real edge
#

but then again that is normal for IPS displays

sly elk
#

that's the IPS one from earlier

#

heh speaking of that

#

the msi VA one I bought

real edge
#

yeah I linked the review cause he linked the amazon one

sly elk
#

I think the 34" ips I normally use has better contrast >>

#

didn't buy it to game on though, I bought it to do work from home, and it was cheap.

#

i think ice is using ips screens already?

#

so it's not like he's going to be disappointed lol

#

I think OLEDs look really unnaturally eye popping (in a good way) on some contrasts

#

the whole thing about text readability is a thing

#

tbh if you're 100% dead serious about text readability you're gonna be looking at something like an apple studio display

#

those 27" 4k are decent too

#

I mean, shit, I still think the pixel density of 3440x1440 on a 34" is decent for reading text, so 4k + scaling on a 27" is probably fine

#

but 5k on a 27" is like 40% more pixels :]

#

but in typic apple fashion the 27" has issues haha
historically their screens are not the most reliable

jaunty light
#

I need to figure out a setup again

#

But in almost all cases its buy a $500 ergotron

#

because they dont sell the long pole separately

#

That or wall mounts

real edge
#

long pole

#

a lot of gaming displays do not have good local dimming

#

or contrast

jaunty light
# real edge long pole

Legit. Its the same exact mount as the one i have rn but it just has an extended mounting pole thing

jaunty light
#

Too bad its 3500 lol

#

No issues.. yet

real edge
#

only VAs have good contrast and most of them suck except for some odyssey-line displays

jaunty light
#

No weird color, no BLB at all

#

Contrast is very good

real edge
#

it is good on mine as well, I was very surprised when i first saw it

#

"wow this is how blacks should look like?"

#

which dell

jaunty light
#

If i was gonna do single monitor tbh id get the ark

#

Curved makes sense with how large it is

#

Cant play dark horror games on my aw2721d worth a shit cuz the Ldimming sucks ass

#

Since when does sony sell mons

#

Is.. this just a rebranded alienware

real edge
#

1800r is an aggressive curve

jaunty light
#

The 2721?

#

Its a good monitor, but theres always a tradeoff with IPS panels

real edge
#

you need an excellent pc to run the second monitor, its response times are beyond shit at 60fps

#

it does have backlight strobing

jaunty light
#

I kinda wanna try the neo g8

#

But i know the small samsungs always have issues

#

Oled hard pass

real edge
#

I wouldn't touch the alienware 27 either

#

not worth the price

jaunty light
#

Not these days

#

Was very worth 700 when released

real edge
#

it has the same problem as the dell

#

its too slow when fps drops below its max

jaunty light
#

1200 zones on the g8

jaunty light
real edge
#

the asus rog swift pg279qm

jaunty light
#

And if i dont it doesnt matter since the game wont be comp

real edge
#

is acceptable

#

but the odyssey g7 is the best when gaming

#

but text clarity is an issue for programmers

#

because of the aggressive curve

jaunty light
#

I hatr curve

#

Issue with g8 is also 4k

#

I got too many expensive hobbies as is

real edge
#

it depends on your eyes

#

the lg one is good except for contrast

#

I had a fast TN for a long time

#

when I bought a slower IPS I noticed motion blur immediately

#

had to return it

#

the g7 is fast enough to where I do not notice any

#

generally speaking when you buy the display there is one way to test it

#

play cyberpunk at 60fps locked

#

and bring your overdrive setting to normal

#

see how it looks to you

#

then play a game where you can pull 144-160fps easily.

#

and put the OD on fast

#

see the difference

#

is that acceptable to you? do you notice a difference motion blur wise?

#

ull be simulating this essentially

#

which is response time at max fps and response time at 60fps

#

ideally it should all be uniform

#

but

#

most monitors cannot do that

#

you have adaptive sync

#

your monitor will be at 144hz

#

but you have adaptive sync

#

if that makes sense

#

which is a good thing

#

so your numbers at 60 will be the right ones

#

if you adjust your OD settings to match

#

you will probably be fine if you had those monitors before

#

those are slow as fuck

#

the ones you currently have

#

the lg you're looking at is way faster

#

this is the performance of your old ones

#

only 60hz as well

#

old

#

new lg

#

144hz will be a huge jump for you

#

to clarify

#

it will not look like shit at 60

#

but the difference between games you can run fast and games that run at 60 might be noticeable for you

#

with that display

#

but you might not even notice it

#

who knows

#

it depends on your eyes

#

yeah but the hz of your monitor is 60

#

so your monitor cannot match your fps

#

uhh

#

yeah

#

scanlines?

#

I guess thats the norm

#

damn

#

feelsbad

#

I do not have any scanlines with that gif

#

I've never gotten that

#

its too bad because the display is amazing, its such a shame that most people have problems with it

#

yup

#

it actually uses VA to its advantage unlike other VA displays

#

I highly recommend 144hz for gaming

#

its a big game changer

#

with your pc its a shame you do not have a high hz display

#

it will be great for you

sly elk
#

does anyone still use odyssey g9s? :]

#

they were super popular for a while

#

i haven't seen a single one in /r/battlestations in a weke or so

deep sapphire
#

@potent arrow

#

They’re beautiful

#

: ‘ )

sly elk
#

exotic sockets

#

o_O

#

SAE?!

deep sapphire
#

Yeah lmao that’s the only SAE set they make too

#

I looked far and wide on the website but I’m not surprised in the least

sly elk
#

-ponders if anyone makes cars that use SAE sockets-

deep sapphire
#

Not anymore

#

My truck uses both for some fuckin reason

#

Everything in the cab is metric

sly elk
#

lol

deep sapphire
#

Everything on the frame is SAE

#

like ???

sly elk
#

XD

#

yea I've never touched a car like that before

#

then again jeeps have an amusing amount of torx heads in them

#

oo here's a g9 setup

jaunty light
#

Spends $37472 on monitor, has giant mat, 60% keyboard and blue yeti..

sly elk
#

the cheap chair, too

#

blue yetis have a long history though, I think when people go to best buy looking for a better mic than whatever they're using, it's oneof the things they gravitate to

#

hell, a week ago I was returning a monitor to best buy and this dude next to me was shopping for a mic and he was talking with the employee about blue yetis lol

jaunty light
#

Yetis arent bad, but that mic costs less than the mount he has it on

sly elk
#

ah is that a fancy mount?

jaunty light
#

Just a rode psa1

sly elk
#

ah the logo on the base

#

it looks like a pretty generic mic arm to me otherwise lol

jaunty light
#

Yea they made the pro model with a sleeve so it looks.. better

sly elk
#

that is pretty funny

#

that's a like 60 dollar mic and a $96 arm

#

$79** msrp for the mic, but they're pretty regularly cheaper

#

I personally don't care for the blue yeti aesthetics

#

that is a nice blue though

#

though I admit the elgato on my desk isn't exactly beautiful either

jaunty light
#

Tbf its a waste to buy the cheaper ones, their springs are awful

sly elk
#

i'm kinda tempted to get a q2u just to mess with it

#

plus i could theoretically tuck it in behind my monitor more nicely

#

or put it on a gooseneck arm and pretend i'm a burger king employee

#

i realize i may have dated myself super badly with that one

jaunty light
sly elk
#

in the 90s burger king had a mic at the counter adn they'd loudly announce orders

jaunty light
#

Gotta git in that thread and yell at em for not having an sm7b or re20

sly elk
#

I suppose what I could do for more amusement is get a gooseneck lamp, remove the lamp head, and install a mic on the end

odd sand
#

Unless the person is literally streaming, just have the mic just over the top of the monitor with a shield behind it to cut down on background noise. Unless it's dynamic then rip

umbral moss
#

engine metric, chassis imperial

deep sapphire
#

Lmao

umbral moss
#

was a fun time trying to take the battery clamp off to swap it, I had to buy a set of metric sockets specifically for that

modest moss
#

just drink tea

paper tusk
#

🤡

odd sand
#

I guess bc the chassis were forged somewhere else and were a different dept and that's "the way things were always done"

umbral moss
dull garnet
#

I've only had that happen with lower value goods

umbral moss
#

must be someone who was quitting that week haha

umbral moss
#

dunno bout high risk, they're not power washing it while it's running

#

and the RH in vietnam is basically "underwater" anyway lmao

dull garnet
#

long as they're dried properly it shouldn't be an issue. doubt that is the case though

umbral moss
#

yeah

#

but when you're in an unconditioned warehouse in SEA, "dry" is basically "isn't being actively rained on" haha

#

it's a serious problem for our actively watercooled laser systems, if the chiller temperature is too low the base starts to condense water into the electronics and shorts out the control board

dull garnet
#

tl;dr don't buy video cards from sea

sly elk
umbral moss
#

nah, moisture killed vacuum tubes just as readily lmao

sly elk
#

i'm thinking of like how in old cars

#

the windshield wipers, door locks, windows, ac controls were all operated by vacuum

#

hell those old lincolns with the doors that cover the headlights? same deal

dull garnet
sharp star
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umbral moss
#

that's why the brake pedal pressure changes after you start the car

sly elk
#

ye

#

I think it's funny how that can make a brake pedal so stiff that you can't push it down enough to trigger the 'hold brake to start car' thing

umbral moss
#

that means your fluid is moisture contaminated wearycarby

#

you should have enough hydraulic pressure to engage the brake switch without needing 1500lb of force

sly elk
#

that reminds me

#

I should look into getting brake fluid changed

#

(I don't have that problem though)

umbral moss
#

you don't normally need the fluid changed unless something feels wrong with the pedal

#

I still haven't figured out why my pedal is so soft when the fluid is new and the master cylinder/portioning valve are in good condition

#

you need to really beat on the pedal to get the brakes to grip tightly playdead

sly elk
#

nope the brakes work the same shitty way they always have haha

umbral moss
#

big brake kits are very expensive playdead

umbral moss
#

I was looking at putting 14s all around on my car and it's like $2700 per axle playdead

#

that's two whole tifa dolls playdead

sly elk
#

ii wonder if I'd need to change my 17" wheels out with 18" to fit that

umbral moss
#

yeah, you need clearance for the rotors to spin so you'd have to put larger wheels

sly elk
#

i'm fine with that. one of the weird few wrangler owners who doesn't mind 18" - it does mean less variety with tires though

#

there are some big brake kits that are just small enough to fit the 17" wheels though

#

drilled discs though haha

umbral moss
#

I mean, 13" is technically "big" but when you have a heavy chassis it's kind of entry level

#

especially if you're trying to justify your truck nuts by taking the thing deep off-road and you're trying to brake down a mountain

sly elk
#

yea if I went to a shop and paid 3-4k to do it, and I was planning to keep the jeep forever? yea sure

#

5k an axle not including labor

#

oh dear me

umbral moss
#

drilled is fine for normal use, honestly

sly elk
#

yea I'm definitely not trying to brake down a mountain haha

umbral moss
#

slotted brakes are technically more efficient but you need to run them much hotter to justify the slot over drilled

sly elk
#

but having better stopping distance than a 1987 chevy citation would be nice

umbral moss
#

I still haven't found the right pads and rotors for my subie

#

I suppose the next step is to put 14s all around but at the same time it's a big expense for a car that's 12 years old playdead

sly elk
#

128ft 60-0. Interestingly they don't show a difference between the trims, and the base wrangler has smaller brakes 😄

umbral moss
#

the base wrangler is probably lighter

sly elk
#

true!

odd sand
#

Refund on what?

dull garnet
#

good timing

#

christ

#

someone listed a 3090 for £745

#

if i had a beefy psu ||and a job currently|| that might not be a bad buy

modest moss
#

yeah definitely refund it

#

spend the refund on my steamdeck

#

ez

dull garnet
#

$325 extra

#

sheesh

modest moss
#

I want one in the respect that it'd be a cool toy but at the same time I don't think I'd use it enough to justify the price

sly elk
#

same >>

modest moss
#

it'd be nice for pottering around in XIV without turning on this pc

sly elk
#

the best thing is it's like a switch, but you don't have to pay crazy amounts of money to play games, you can just use your existing library

#

but the only reason I bought a switch was to play certain games

#

I have a switch and don't have zelda

#

it's pretty funny because I have botw for my wii u

modest moss
#

I wanted a switch to play a couple of things but yeah it'd have been a huge waste, steam deck would get a lot more use I bet

sly elk
#

i think the switch would be more fun if it everything you could do on it wasn't hidden behind a paywall

#

I feel like my pc gets a respectable amount of use 😄 but since i bought the mac pro I don't use it as much 😄

dull garnet
#

Zelda eh

sly elk
#

^ see that's the thing

#

except for hyrule warriors, I think every other zelda game already existed before on another console

#

so if you bought it on that console, why bother buying it again? aside from some QoL improvements and having it on the switch

#

like I get that it requires time and money to make games for the switch

dull garnet
#

fpga snes zelda YenEvil

sly elk
#

even if they're just taking a 30 year old NES game and making it run in an emulator

#

tbh

#

I think the switch should just come with some amount of nes/snes games out of the box

dull garnet
#

better yet, a MiSTer

modest moss
#

can't get a pi anywhere last time I looked

#

was thinking about moving plex to one

dull garnet
#

Could always download bsnes-mt

sly elk
#

there are some generic raspberry pi clones on amazon and stuff though

#

hehe

#

I feel like raspberry pis are such a weird combination of hardware and I/O choices

dull garnet
#

How so

umbral moss
#

it's cheap, what did you expect lmao

#

jeepers, this $15 micro isn't as feature filled as a $1200 SOC

sly elk
#

nah that's not really what I meant

#

kinda the opposite actually

#

here's this quadcore computer with a GPU, buy this for your kids so they can use it to turn lightbulbs on and off with python using GPIO!

#

also: the GPU aint that great and for some reason despite being a fairly powerful quadcore, it feels jank

#

iirc at least with the 3b, if you plug it into a 1080p monitor it doesn't give you 1080p with default raspbian out of the box?

#

there's nothing at all wrong with it though 🙂 it's just an interesting computer

#

it's a jack of all trades that kinda does a mediocre job at everything but that's kinda what makes it great

#

but yea a lot of those gpio toys would be better served by an arduino or a freedom board or some other tiny cheap thing like a pi zero w

#

ugh but the way nxp's crappy old eclipse IDE is, it'd scare off anyone interested in playing with a freedom board haha

#

(there are probably more modern alternatives)

dull garnet
#

I've used a pico pi for a few things recently

#

Handy little board

jaunty light
# sly elk

Lol i turned off my garmins for that reason

hard drift
#

i mean yeah they're pretty pricey but hey 🙏 it'll be pretty future proofed

#

i doubt it 🙏

#

800 max tdp maybe, 800 base not likely for a while

#

next year we will likely see x3d parts

#

🙏

#

until you do something stupid haha

modest moss
#

Ice your pc should need nothing until like 2025

hard drift
#

you won't last that long lmao

#

you'll start twitching come 4000 series and 8000/14000 release

#

i meant you, not the pc lol

#

you'll be itching to upgrade

#

you'll still likely cave 🙏

modest moss
#

man trying to pretend he has willpower

hard drift
#

i wouldn't touch anything by/from you

modest moss
#

within 18 months he'll be gifting that 3090 to a buddy

hard drift
#

"buddy needed a gpu so i gave him my 3090 i just needed to upgrade, the itching got so bad"

modest moss
#

well, 'gifting' like you did the i3 and 1080ti box

hard drift
modest moss
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so bro gets a 3090

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story writes itself

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for real though you should sit tight until like 5000 series and 14th gen intel at least

hard drift
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amd lowering prices of their gpus pogianger

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6900xt for 700 is pretty damn good

modest moss
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desperation move from amd as expected

hard drift
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i mean everyone is trying to offload old stock at this point

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makes sense that they lower them

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nvidia is likely to do the same thing

modest moss
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all corporations are scumbag corporations

hard drift
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i mean the new gens are going to have massive improvements in minimum framerates by a lot

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which means smoother feeling titles 🙏

dull garnet
modest moss
hard drift
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who tf uses giphy 😒

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there's enough inbuilt function to windows to not need it

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there's 0 need for giphy 🤨

modest moss
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why would it need to be a gif anyway

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Ice be like 'omg submit that to bash'

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you old bastard irc boomer

dull garnet
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I still print screen into paint and then use the crop tool

hard drift
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i just windows shift s

modest moss
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best part of snipping tool is this

dull garnet
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Ewwwe

hard drift
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chicken leg?

modest moss
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perfect circle

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but I do still sometimes just prt scr and paste into psp9

inland mauve
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this is harder than it looks

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baud?

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when you're baud, git gaud

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the year is 2070. my pacemaker runs on a kubernetes cluster. it has just gone end of life.

modest moss
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I'd be 95 in 2070

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fuck that

inland mauve
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gramps

jaunty light
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Ill only be like 65