technology-discussion

[jaunty light]

the ironwolf pro being.. idk tbh

[dull garnet]

because its seagate

there are red "pro" too now

[potent arrow]

degrade yourself harder

[dull garnet]

they're just the CMR versions lol

[jaunty light]

both versions are CMR so I'm guessing it's just trying t o make money

aka red/gold

[dull garnet]

red did move to SMR

dunno if they undid that

[jaunty light]

eugh

[dull garnet]

mine are pre SMR

you can tell by the model number

EFRX = CMR

[jaunty light]

I really don't want to buy a nas when I can do it myself but I don't want to have yet another bigass case on my desk

the only cube one that holds more than 8 drives is .. node 804?

cept current wouldnt fit because its a mATX

[royal forge]

You guys know them ?water blocks? for gpus?

They are for specific models right

[jaunty light]

yes and sometimes specific AIB

ie blocks for FE cards aren't guaranteed to work on a strix

cue that one linus video where they file the waterblock

[royal forge]

Do the water block manufacturers usually release multiple water blocks?

[jaunty light]

i don't follow anyone but EK but they usually do for popular models, FE, general reference board, then some specific ones like strix etc

[royal forge]

Ah

Gotcha

[royal forge]

Ooo

I see

I've just been a bit iffy on goin water cooling

Esp as I dont know how long im hanging around here

Nah nah

I prob wont

Im prob air coolig

AND my laptop black screened again

https://tenor.com/view/you-birthday-gif-26304062

Its a daily thing

4000 series cant come soon enough

Mine just black screen no response

Hacker demon

Nah. It fucks over everyone else

Ice, we'll hold the world ransom

Pay us to never set foot into anywhere which needs a 24/7 system uptime

Im actually window shopping cases atm

Lian Li cases are chonky eh

[carmine cairn]

I started a new character on my potato laptop. Currently, I am playing on the lowest settings, laptop(low) which would lead to a constant 22-23 fps and when on high its 16-18 fps and auto-resolution. Despite being playable on gridonia and on next map(near gridonia)I have yet to expedienced many players. The question is would my laptop fair on populated perhaps city and or instances/raids?

[modest moss]

what laptop is it? make/model

or do you know the cpu and graphics in it?

also when you say auto-resolution, what is it using?

[dapper nymph]

are things like these, meant to take 10+ minutes

[carmine cairn]

CPU: RYZEN 3 3250U
GPY: RADEON VEGA 3 GRAPHICS
RAM: 8GB RAM
MODEL/MAKE: ASUS EXPERT BOOK
RESOLUTION: 1360X768 on normal but I don't know if the auto resolution actually work.

[modest moss]

I expect you'll have a hard time raiding, but all you can really do is try

[hard drift]

Auto resolution is still broken pretty sure, best bet is try the driver version

But idk if it works for vega

[meager cargo]

Anyone use Anker charger for charging Dualsense?

[dull garnet]

That's vague

Should be fine though, they can draw 1.5A apparently

[modest moss]

Anker make a bunch of different chargers

[dull garnet]

i got a dualsense from the gf for my birthday

sony don't even provide a charge cable

even nintendo isn't that stingy

[modest moss]

they want you to buy the charging dock probably

[odd sand]

Is that the same laptop you've sent in like half a dozen times?

[odd sand]

USB chargers negotiate the charge rate, so most of them should be fine. I've only heard of edge cases like the Nintendo Switch which has an obscure voltage, so I've heard of people running into issues where their chargers are all 12V or 18V but not all 18V chargers can negotiate to 15V

For something basic like a controller, I'm sure it's only drawing like 5V@1A or something

They only have a 250maH battery in them afaik

[dull garnet]

Switch is 5V and 15V

[odd sand]

Yeah so maybe what happened was the 18V chargers sometimes could only do 12V or 5V, so they were down-negotiating to 5V and the Switch was losing charge while plugged in.

I just remember people stressing to make sure any 3rd party charger you bought for the switch could actually do 15V

[modest moss]

there's a cap on the unit rate yeah

but until yesterday it was reviewed every 3 months and going up rapidly

from october it's going up like 25% more, but won't go higher than that for 2 years

it's gonna be £2500/yr

but that's not a smart way to say it

that's based on the imaginary average user family

that's outdated

because yesterday they announced the £2500 cap for 2 years

but before that it was touted that it'd be £7k by april

for context, I pay 29.23p/kWh PLUS a standing charge of 37.65p/day

that's for electricity

it'll go up by around 25%, from the £1971 cap to £2500 cap

gas is 7.34p/kWh and stand charge of 27.22p/day

yes

I'm poor so we're pretty careful about our usage, don't have the heating on unless we really need it etc

and from October we'll be paying at least 300 CAD per month

might be more, that's just a guesstimate

yeah my unit rate is gonna be 4x yours

Ice you use 3x as much electricity as me

[dull garnet]

That's the 3090 alone

[modest moss]

we used 355kwh last month

4 here, wife and two kids, 13+10

speedy how much electricity did you use last month?

yeah that's obscene

[real edge]

mining farm or sth lol

I do not use that much even in a year its crazy

[modest moss]

my provider estimates my annual usage is 4500kwh

so yeah you use 4x as much

probably even more gas

my current direct debit is £156/month for electricity and gas combined

gonna be £200+ from october

that's 700kwh per month

your ACs use 2x my whole electricity usage

surely it'd be cheaper long term to fit proper AC?

[real edge]

the ones above the gray are our current market prices for various providers

💀

the grey is what I currently pay because I locked in a contract before the crazy price jump

wtf

[modest moss]

yeah fully 4x my usage lol

[devout nexus]

should let alberta build that pipeline 😛

would add 22 billiona year in profit

[modest moss]

I might be dumb, but the whole world should just build a fuckload of wind, solar and wave farms and never worry about fuel again

idk

[odd sand]

Holy fuck, that's the power bill for a townhouse? And it didn't even come with A/C?

[modest moss]

Ice, when it's hot, use this

when it's cold, put on a fucking sweater

[odd sand]

I kinda wish I only had a wall unit for A/C. My 1BDR here, it was like another $40/mo in A/C costs this summer

And that's with me setting it to 74/75. But its central air so you're always cooling the entire place

Weren't you shopping for multi-zone heat pump? Or are you renting?

For how many units?

They're full of shit.

I'd be curious what their itemized breakdown was

Bc there's no way the installation parts cost 200% of the base unit

I assume you tried shopping around for other quotes?

[odd sand]

Hmm... bah fuck it. I'll get myself a new PSU I guess.

Considering the prices on them are marked down so much atm, and I was going to spend like $50-60 on one for the gift PC. That's another $60 off in a roundabout way if I just pass over the 850W

I also planned another PC upgrade for 15th gen, so I would probably need more overhead for that anyways

Oh yay, more indecisiveness: That article about EVGA numbering schemes was written like 4 years ago. The prices he claims for P2 and T2 models line up with the current "sale prices" ... so it seems like instead of a sale, it's just the marked up prices coming down after ppl stopped buying them when the 30 series rush died

[hard drift]

i mean for 15th gen and gpus you'll likely need another new psu because PCIE 5.0/atx 3.0

[odd sand]

I'm sure there would be an adapter for the pins, but point taken.

Also right after I said I would buy it I then found that info that the prices are just coming down from markups so its not really a sale

[modest moss]

one benefit of giving the 850w with the gift, is seeing as it's a 9900k they should be able to upgrade the gpu later and get an extra few years out of it

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

Wouldn't be able to fit it in this case though, I think. 180mm for the current one is already a tight fit. That one is 220mm

[jaunty light]

Thick

[odd sand]

Actually I take that back, it would probably work. the PSU shroud area is almost twice the length of the 180mm so it would probably be okay

But even if I maxed out the 13900K and got a 4080, I doubt it would need 1600 heh

[jaunty light]

Where da 14900k

14999

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-core-i5-13600-cpu-and-below-are-based-on-alder-lake-die

[odd sand]

I forgot about the new PSU standard, so at the very least, I can hold off on the PSU for now and see if more ATX 3.0 models are on shelves this fall

[jaunty light]

2000w PSU, where u at silverstone

[hard drift]

bruh wtf do you want/need 2k for

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/gamer-keyboard-unlimited-power-star-wars-palpatine-gif-17278800

[odd sand]

Don't you need a 240V outlet for that then?

Over 15A circuit just for the PC

[bitter girder]

new xbox?

[odd sand]

Hmm... while it looks like my case can fit a 360mm radiator on top, the info says 240 only. Front mounting is janky imho. Wonder if I could get away with a 240mm only with the 13900k

[dull garnet]

yep, a lone 240mm fan

[odd sand]

Hmm... well if I did front-mount a 360mm, I wonder which is better, intake or exhaust for the top fans then

[odd sand]

Aesthetically, exhaust looks better bc the "front" of the fan is visible, but the GPU would probably be a little cooler if you did intake on top

[royal forge]

Yes.

It is EXCEPTIONALLY stupid

And the consumer laws here are shitastic

[jaunty light]

Lets raid their store

https://tenor.com/view/captan-price-gif-25497059

[royal forge]

What, and everyone get shit ass chinese no name hardware that fails?

[jaunty light]

Yes

If we create a giant cluster it wont matter!

[royal forge]

I just make it a point to shit on their products whenever possible

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4090-cards-now-listed-in-australia

LMAO

I know its prob placeholder

But HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Can you imagine the balls on nvidia if they list it at 2.6k USD

[jaunty light]

Aus dollars are worthless!

[hard drift]

It’s not double performance

[late basalt]

@odd sand you're involved with email server stuff right?

[odd sand]

Uhh sorta. I didn't handle configuration or anything really, just spam/phishing monkey

Sorting out blocks, etc.

[late basalt]

that's actually more than enough

granted, i dont know if you know the answer, but is there a way to get outlook to completely ditch receiving emails that dont have content?

it's a pain in the god damn ass to block domains and i'd rather have a single rule that catches everything

[odd sand]

Emails with no body content?

@late basalt Looks like in typical MS fashion, the only way is the ultra-jank way: https://www.extendoffice.com/documents/outlook/3227-outlook-block-email-with-no-subject.html

You can apply the same technique on the body instead of the subject. Dunno how it affects performance.

Although theoretically you could probably get away with just using lowercase a-z

Or the "wheel of fortune method" of rstln and vowels

[jaunty light]

simple, just block all email, unsubscribe from office 365, and revel in your newfound freedom

idk what it is, but no carriers can sell these fucking things in the US. my sister is going to get a free one by adding a line

idk if it's the flip or fold though

I like that they finally fixed outlook 365 web to show encrypted email but it's not cross compatible with people that use the fat 2016 client still

[dull garnet]

that's how the teach knew in class

[meager cargo]

My anker chargers won’t charge my Dualsense. With different cables too

And it only happen to usb c to usb c. I can only charge it using USB A to USB C

[odd sand]

Weird. Mine does. Oh maybe thats why yeah mine is A

[meager cargo]

I saw in a video that not all USB C charger is universal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDPtcKycQeI

I want to have one charger for my devices. That’s why I’m asking if there is a Anker charger that can work with Dualsense (:

[modest moss]

message Anker, they're quite responsive

[dull garnet]

I have the 30w Google charger

Usb-c to usb-c worked just fine on my dualsense

Seems to have good compatibility on all my devices though, probably adheres to the right standards

[hard drift]

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-Durable-Compact-Included/dp/B099F558S1?ref_=ast_sto_dp i got one of these and have had no problems with any device

[modest moss]

you don't need constant hot water, set that shit on a timer

[modest moss]

can you not just get a timer fitted?

[odd sand]

If its a new water heater, see if you can get it looked at/replaced under warranty. That doesn't sound normal.

[meager cargo]

Thanks, I did that a couple of days ago. Haven’t heard a response. Still waiting! 👍

[meager cargo]

How about charging Dualsense?

[paper tusk]

playstation controllers since ds3 require handshake before they accept charge

so needs a cord that does data too

and a charger that can interact with it

sounds like time for a hybrid water heater... if they didn't cost 1100 buckazoids easy

(angy noises)

[sly elk]

lol

that is totally a state of mind thing

some people are like "fuck cold showers, i'm gonna get a giant water tank yo"

[meager cargo]

I use 2 different types of USB C anker cable too.
With this charger https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-Durable-Compact-Included/dp/B099F558S1
and this charger https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-Durable-Compact-Included/dp/B09C5SC9FW

This cable: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Powerline-Certified-Charging-MacBook/dp/B0971CKQ8H
And this one: https://www.ankerjapan.com/products/a8033

All of them won't charge Dualsense. But can charge Nintendo Switch with no problem. Furthermore, both of those cables won't charge Dualsense when plugged into PS5 either

[dull garnet]

Japanese cable 😍

[umbral moss]

I wonder if the negotiation chip on your controller is kaput so it needs the dumb A/C cable to bypass it

seeing how J1772 works for EV charging it's like, why doesn't every cable have a sense pin for that?

"hi, I have +15V on pin 5, you can supply 250W to me"

[meager cargo]

Not sure. The controller is not that long. How can I check?

[umbral moss]

I mean, you could try a cable you know is designed to transfer power and data and see if it works

I accidentally bought a data-only USB C cable because apparently that's a thing and my headphones won't work with it because it needs power and data

[meager cargo]

Any brand comes to mind?

I always use Anker since I know about em and got no problems till now

[umbral moss]

yeah, I wouldn't suspect anker is bad

if the cable works for charging other devices it might be your controller

I had a problem where my anker wall wart and C-C cable stopped charging my phone, but when I unplugged it and let it cool down for a few hours it started working again

[outer sand]

I bought Micro USB that use steel cable long time ago

still work to this day, I use it everyday to charge my MP3 player

I don't think It has a brand at all

[meager cargo]

But the controller still charge if using USB A to USB C cable

[umbral moss]

USB A doesn't have any logic behind it

you get 5W because that's what the connector supplies, it doesn't communicate with the battery management module

USB C has a lot of data going back and forth because the charging spec can supply anywhere from 5 to 250W

[meager cargo]

I see

[umbral moss]

so the cable, source, and sink all need to agree on what power can be distributed without blowing up the cable or sink

[meager cargo]

Might just gonna wait for a reply from Anker Support

[umbral moss]

yeah, they would know better than I do

USB-C's frustratingly byzantine specs and rolling compliance for cables, sources, and sinks is so annoying to navigate

if you want to understand what your device needs you have to go through like six charts and make sure they all agree with each other before you buy a cable or charger

oh, you want USB C 3.1 2x2 gen 3? hope you know what any of that shit means

because that isn't necessarily the More Gooder version of the spec or cable

[meager cargo]

Yeah, I watched that too in YT. So I wonder why some countries would like to push for USB C as the general use when some have show that it’s not as universal as they think it is

[umbral moss]

the problem is that you need a spec to lean against and USB C's connector is fine

the next problem is that there's subsets of USB C that are almost legacy compliance more than anything else

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/pci-sig-concerned-about-potential-thermal-variance-with-12vhpwr-pcie-gen5-power-cable-adapters not looking good for adapter possibility

[jaunty light]

The good ol "4 is actually worse than 3.5 but 3.1 is better than 4.1 and 4 is better than 3.1" looking ass "standards"

[potent arrow]

10/10 today's project is unfucking this

Also decided to put up a random monitor lol

[jaunty light]

sarah needs dusting

[potent arrow]

Yeah that monitor was in storage for god knows how long

[jaunty light]

t-thanks amazon

[fair parcel]

so many choices

[modest moss]

you mean you haven't already?

[jaunty light]

straight outta the 90s lookin logo

[hard drift]

Non ecc??? That’s actually awful

Ddr5 ecc is supposed to be standard

[sly elk]

"we have rgb at home"

it's non-ECC ECC

[jaunty light]

yeah I think this is the only 128 kit I've seen

[sly elk]

I know that doesn't sound sensible but

[hard drift]

I wonder if it even has the integrated controller on the pcb

[sly elk]

DDR5's built-in ECC isn't quite the same as the ECC we knew up until now

[hard drift]

It still looks fake/cutting corners to be ddr5

[sly elk]

hmm?

the controller is in the middle, and that picture appears to be a render

[modest moss]

you should actually do it on a cheap kb for fun, get a janky £5 one and go nuts

[sly elk]

but ugh, glitter

[jaunty light]

prolly gonna have to wait a while until 128 is supported.. ain't gonna try buying 64 at those $$$ prices only to go 128 later

[sly elk]

also gluing it up like that will make it waterproof

or at least significantly more water resistant

[jaunty light]

I'm gonna guess the keys dont move anymore

[sly elk]

ya but that improves the water resistance

it's just like securing a computer by disabling all the ports

[hard drift]

What do you need that much memory for

[hard drift]

Waterproof phone by removing charging ports/speakers/buttons

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/nixrbe/all_ddr5_sticks_should_have_sideband_ecc_in/
this kinda goes into what I meant about the ECC not entirely being what I'd think of as ECC

[jaunty light]

already regularly use close to 64 for uh, "light" workloads I'd say so more memory is more better

I guess if I reuse my current hardware I can get away with 64 for a while though the only problem is I need more memory already

[latent grotto]

Only way to charge is with qi charging

[sly elk]

people on /r/apple keep acting like apple should just get rid of ports on the iphone instead of adding usb-c

[dull garnet]

ew

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/hoes-mad-gif-21345344

[dull garnet]

did they work out fast charging yet

[fair parcel]

iron deficiency

lol

[modest moss]

salt

[dull garnet]

pjsalt

[pastel tapir]

Whenever i turn my pc on, i only see a black screen

I can move my cursor but cant do shit else

Wtf

[boreal surge]

Am I like one of the few people in tech who's like go home with your fancy smancy voice controls and wireless stuff, gimme ports and buttons?

[jaunty light]

what do U mean

put the pizza in the Alexa™️ Microwave then say "ALEXA, COOK MY PIZZA FOR 30 SECONDS" that's the future man

[jaunty light]

dont worry, if you go to japan they will look at you like that!

gotta pay with sweet sweet hard cash

shrimple, just live in a van

@umbral moss you shouldn't have linked that n74 I keep thinking about it every day

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

still though I think it's only viable as a production car if they use the g70 v6 or all electric

the nearest hydrogen station is 300 miles from me lol.

[hard drift]

Try reseating gpu and different hdmi/dp slot

My old motherboard did that shit and that was how i fixed it

[jaunty light]

aw hell naw

time to sell meth instead

[hard drift]

??? Wtf do you need 100tb for

[modest moss]

8k hentai

[sly walrus]

impress girls by showing them your RAID array

[jaunty light]

depends, 70TB on 6 or maybe like 50 in Z3 dawg. other than doing general media ripping and storage, I can use ~100GB a day in raw photos or up to 1TB in video

[hard drift]

🤨

[jaunty light]

You can trash most of them but its not hard with 30-60mp cameras these days

[sly elk]

hmm

i just realized there is one downside to the airport express being used as a router...

no vpn host

and sadly edgerouters are unobtanium

so are unifi routers lol

and i'm not paying $400 for a unifi dream machine pro

[jaunty light]

are they? edgerouters were always available a couple years ago

still kinda disappointed the home 10gbe front hasn't changed much

gotta love mfg's "10gb capacity" attempts though

[sly elk]

can get an edgerouter x sfp from a scalper on amazon for like $138 lol

[jaunty light]

that's only $38 tax! you should be used to such ventures, as a california resident

[old jetty]

Video editing I assume

[jaunty light]

Build me a keyboard, gamers

The k95 fought the good fight against an IPA and lost

[lethal dune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996667243008102482/1018470732243681350/unknown.png

Ummm

My friend keep getting this

Can someone help and tell me what’s going on?

I am unsure what this is

[real edge]

swap to dx9 through the launcher

the game will look worse but you will not get those errors anymore

[royal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

I literally just have word and firefox open

[paper tusk]

[royal forge]

The new GPUs cant come fast enough

Im tempted to say fuck it and build now

[potent arrow]

Not like you'll be able to afford the newest gen 80/90

[dull garnet]

Is dx9 still supported? Huh

[sharp star]

no but it isn’t deprecated either

[royal forge]

I mean, the shit is probably gonna be jacked up in price to all hell tho

[potent arrow]

So you are willing to spend a billion dollars on a 4090 that MAY come out this year

Or a 4080 that MAY come out February

Or wait even longer for the other skus

When you probably won't ever use the performance

[royal forge]

Its either a 4080 or 3080

Depends

I'll see the prices then decide. Das abt it

[potent arrow]

Just get a 3080.

[dull garnet]

But the 4080 might be $500 right guise

[paper tusk]

bullshit like that makes me think the 3060 ti I got at the beginning of the year feel like an actually decent deal ($600 usd)

between the msrp going to the moon and the electricity cost going to shit

[umbral moss]

told you

they're just going to push up the price range each time they get burned by cryptobros

since they sell the previous gen at those inflated prices anyway, so why lower them ever

[paper tusk]

3900 to 4300 AUD (2900 USD, 2660 Euro)

[real edge]

imagine charging a used cars worth of money for a graphics card

[real edge]

[modern iris]

Guys, is this a right place to ask for not working controller in ff14?

It worked on other games on my pc

[outer sand]

throw the speccccc

probably because you are using steam and you are using steam controller support

FFXIV already have a native controller support since It's JP game, console market is more popular there

[modern iris]

nancon bb4469CGrn

and yeah, my steam was open all time

[odd sand]

Do we need to create a GoFundme for a new laptop for you?

[modest moss]

he has money, he's just like Raz, wants to buy new shit but waiting for the perfect new shit whilst enjoying complaining

[odd sand]

[outer sand]

turn off steam controller support, also I'm not sure about that controller sorry

[modern iris]

that was the issue ❤️

Im so glad for your help!

[lime wasp]

I'm wondering if it would be better for GPU temps and being able to keep the noise at a minimum if I tied my exhaust fans to my GPU temp and just let my CPU AIO work normally.

[odd sand]

A revision of 12th gen, but fair enough. And honestly, I think that's generally fine. Most people who buy an i3 are getting it for general computing and not gaming or high workloads.

Also considering they're moving to chiplet architecture with 14th gen, maybe they're looking to clear out inventory of silicon ahead of that by branding like, 12400F as 13100 or something

[potent arrow]

I don't get it

[odd sand]

Honestly, I feel like companies demanding you pay them to use their products in a show is a perversion of IP laws.

If you bought a product and own it, you shouldn't need any more permissions to use something.

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cross-ange-embarrassed-blushing-manga-gif-5869026

[odd sand]

It's not like you pay Fruit of the Loom to wear a tshirt on TV

Oh god Cross Ange...

I made it like 90 seconds into the first episode and stopped and deleted it

Nope. I took piano lessons for like 2 years when I was little, but it didn't stick.

I learned to read music bc I took band for like 6-7 years

You just have to practice until you have the muscle memory that seeing a certain note is a certain set of button presses on the instrument

[weary dagger]

ios 16 finally coming tomorrow

[odd sand]

IMHO piano is one of the harder ones bc it involves a lot of fingers at once and possibly even foot pedals

I think if piano when I was a kid was taught with more pop/rock songs it would have stuck easier

But they always teach with classical and that is so zzz

Something like the backing piano from Empire State of Mind would be a lot more engaging than Mozart

[modest moss]

probably laws about inadvertent product placement

[deep sapphire]

BOOBIES

[royal forge]

Just a new desktop. Then mods can ban me after i post it here

[fair parcel]

[odd sand]

Remaining 12th gen and Ryzen 5000 series will probably get marked down this fall

[royal forge]

Ye. Das the hope

New Ryzens werent much to write home about, yes?

[dull garnet]

[royal forge]

At least, dat was the impression i got frm it

[dull garnet]

so you're hoping for reduced ryzens but a 4080?

how does that make sense

[royal forge]

Nono, that was just talkin shop, in essence

I've not fully started researchin so i just casually browse news

Not hoping for reduced ryzens since i'd probably go intel

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[odd sand]

I just... couldn't. That prologue clip where she rages and jumps out of the jet with the machinegun was just so cringe I NOPE'd out.

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cross-ange-what-surprised-sick-ange-gif-5869093

it isn't a good show, but it is a show i enjoyed

better than valvrave lolol

[odd sand]

Hah, Valvrave. That one at least started looking like it could be good. It wasn't a disappointment until the last half or third. But I can totally understand the Entertaining vs Good dichotomy.

There are a number of shows I put into the Entertaining camp that were objectively terrible shows

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ruka-sarashina-rent-a-girlfriend-dance-anime-anime-girl-gif-26104270

[modest moss]

fucking yikes at that warning sticker

[dull garnet]

lol, well I imported them from Australia...

I think they've had a UK release since though

[jaunty light]

First day, you're learning liszt or else!

[odd sand]

Graduation is playing this: https://youtu.be/cOeKidp-iWo?t=143

[jaunty light]

Coulda made it spell rage over

[bitter girder]

ughh

just want a good computer

[jaunty light]

You can do it lewis

[bitter girder]

im not bothered actually

i got a zenbook right

if i die in a game the laptop goes to sleep

funniest thing ever

[jaunty light]

It is within your power to rob that bank!

[bitter girder]

i sold my computer recently actually

bought a ps5 and actually having a blast with it

[dull garnet]

[jaunty light]

Where pc demon souls

[royal forge]

Coming with PC bloodborne

[modest moss]

Lewis with the best decisions

[bitter girder]

Escape pc problems solved

[dull garnet]

user issue

[dull garnet]

wouldn't be surprised if that word was in the chat filter

[bitter girder]

Pussy

[deep sapphire]

Ford?

[hard drift]

i mean probably going to lose to 13th gen but the benefit is the socket being used for multiple gens not just 12/13th for example

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/narc-copium-spoon-gif-23613894

[hard drift]

so you're saying amd is going to win? 🤔

[modest moss]

I'm referring to you trying to cope with the defeat by clinging to the socket

[hard drift]

i mean technically amd beat intel already with the x3d only for gaming but since x3d products aren't coming until supposedly next year, they'll likely lose until they are out

and not even a 13900ks will save intel because x3d will just be that much better thermally/budget wise

[odd sand]

Depends on which AMD you're talking about. Their server platforms twice had sockets that lasted only like 1 gen didn't they?

[hard drift]

that's servers which 99% of us in here don't use

[modest moss]

anyway who gives a fuck about a socket lasting forever

[hard drift]

i mean it's a plus for consumers who want to save a buck

[modest moss]

you're not going to buy a brand new 5000 series cpu and stick it on a board that only has pcie 2.0

look at me, my 5800x3d fits on my 2016 mobo, yay

big deal

[hard drift]

i mean it gives massive gains in performance without having to buy a bunch of new shit to upgrade

[modest moss]

if you're trying to save a buck you're skipping several generations anyway

[hard drift]

exactly why being able to go from 7000 to say 10000 series will be nice

or whatever it may be

same way for going from 1700x -> 5800x3d or 5000 series in general

[modest moss]

plus only half the am4 boards can support zen 3 afaik, only as far back as b450

so it's really not as great as shills like you make out

[odd sand]

I think it's a novel feature, but not one the majority of people care about enough. Because the ones strapped on cash enough to utilize it won't be upgrading a CPU after only 2-3 years

[modest moss]

right

it's a gimmick for nerds like bidori

like I'll try to get at least 4 years out of this 12700k

[odd sand]

And if you're going 5-6 years then yeah, you're way behind on motherboard features. Like 2.5gbe pcie5. wifi6, etc. Some boards even coming with onboard 10gbe

[modest moss]

in 2026 I don't want to buy a cpu and drop it on a 2022 board

[odd sand]

Without a doubt any CPU these days you can get 4 years out of. Apps aren't pushing hardware that heavily on the consumer front

[modest moss]

yeah, potentially upgrade the gpu in a few years and get a few more years after that

[hard drift]

not true, you could do 5000 series on older boards such as a320 but some of the 300 series support came way later which is how it is for budget anyways, they're waiting for release of budget options 🤷‍♂️

[modest moss]

only on asus and gigabyte, no?

[hard drift]

no

[modest moss]

On 12 November 2021, according to TechPowerUp, ASUS and Gigabyte are the few vendors that allowed Ryzen 5000 on A320 motherboard and according to Tom's Hardware it was done by removing support for AMDs 7th Generation A-series and Athlon X4 series (Bristol Ridge) processors.

that's what wiki says

but hey it can be wrong

[hard drift]

it is wrong

https://www.techpowerup.com/255531/biostar-releases-3rd-gen-ryzen-support-bios-updates-for-am4-motherboards lets take the shittiest company for example

it was just a matter of manufacturers actually supporting it

[modest moss]

only an idiot would do it

[sly walrus]

snsv

[odd sand]

lmao of course they would cave and change the name bc ppl think the other fabs are doing much smaller process bc they faked the nm names https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-process-packaging-roadmap-2025

Intel changing the name of their 10nm process to 7 to align with AMD calling theirs 7 when it wasn't.

Intel plans to begin an entirely new era in the first half of 2024: The angstrom era. These chips represent the point where some physical features can no longer be accurately measured in nanometers, or billionths of a meter. Instead, these features will now be measured in angstroms, or one ten-billionth of a meter. The first angstrom-class process from Intel will come as 20A (A is for angstrom), which brings RibbonFET, Intel's first gate-all-around (GAA) transistor, and PowerVia, a novel approach to delivering power to incredibly small transistors.

Angstrom sounds cool and pretentious at the same time

[sly elk]

I think it’s wild that for about $14 you can get a lightbulb that has wifi and Bluetooth with a system on chip running inside there

And it looks like a normal friggin lightbulb

[odd sand]

How quickly does a $14 smart bulb break tho /s

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/xc22dr/a_software_developer_after_fixing_a_bug_by_dalle_2/

Yeah that will be a good question

[jaunty light]

yeah but its from CHINA

they are listening to your every move!

they know what color you like to have the lightbulb on a wednesday

[dull garnet]

Damn kids and their smart bulbs

[graceful pine]

Smart lightbulbs lol

I’ll stick with my basic ass led controlled via switch

[umbral moss]

but it's smart, it must be better

everything must be networked and connected to the cloud and transmitting reams of unaccounted for data to an unknown data host

[jaunty light]

put dat shit on isolated lan all so you can say ALEXA PARTY TIME and die of epilepsy

they really be leaning into these stupid designs huh

[umbral moss]

aren't these intentional because of the phased antenna configuration?

[potent arrow]

I'm never buying a traditional router AP combo again

[jaunty light]

we're tossing it off a building and seeing if it flies

[umbral moss]

also, I still want that asus AXE16000

it looks like an exploded spider but it has stupid amounts of bandwidth handling

[jaunty light]

was looking atm ore 10g switches and there are a few that are relatively affordable at least

[umbral moss]

it's wild seeing my ISP offer 5Gbit internet as a realistically affordable option

not like "yeah we offer it but it's $500 a month"

[jaunty light]

from people that've gotten installed they get about 800 symmetrical but we'll see when they 100% roll out service if it stays that high

I think with HDDs on a NAS i'd only need 1G for write saturation and maybe 2.5G for read

or slightly more idk. 7200rpm drives probably only hit what 150

[umbral moss]

150 MB/s, yeah

even with a large onboard cache

it's funny that when 7200 rpm drives first came out everyone was like "wow, it gets 130MB/s, so fast" and now we're bitching about SSDs being fractions of a percent away from each other at 7.5GB/s

[jaunty light]

i only care about NVMe stats if it's sustained

love that YOU CAN RUN SSD BENCHMARK FOR 10 SECONDS AND IT HITS 7GB/S WOW

then in any other workload it dies

[umbral moss]

sustained read/write ops are only for like, server loads though

if you're an average joe sixpack you use your drive in ten second bursts and it's idle most of the time

so there's no real point to looking at QD64+ sustained write speeds

completely useless for the average user scenario

[jaunty light]

i need to feel superior knowing that my drive in workloads nobody else uses is better

[dull garnet]

Why else would you buy a 980 pro

[umbral moss]

directstorage

alas, a feature that will never, ever be used

[royal forge]

Brb building a NAS usin purely SSDs

[dull garnet]

My friend's nas is a pi4 with a 1tb sata ssd lol

[jaunty light]

its fine just give me 50TB of SSD storage, that will cost what only.. like.. 50k

[wide hill]

that's low numbers https://youtu.be/BBnomwpF_uY

[royal forge]

1TB only?

[dull garnet]

yes

[royal forge]

maybe i have a distorted view

my friend repurposed his desktop

so he runs a ridiculous storage capacity

but HDDs

he does photos etc

so he shoots in some cursed format

[dull garnet]

friend basically just uses it to serve anime

[royal forge]

ah

my friend's one doubles as his torrenting device

can I mention that here?

[umbral moss]

FFXIV's patcher is a torrent client

I think most game patchers use some variety of a torrent client these days

[dull garnet]

well yeah that is another thing a nas can do

[umbral moss]

also, I remember when XIV's launcher was such a piece of shit the only way to patch the game was to start the download, wait for it to fail, and then open the fucking torrent file it downloaded in a real torrent client so it could download the patch properly lmao

[dull garnet]

we'll be talking about an anime and he'll set stuff to dl in rtorrent on his nas remotely

[modest moss]

does he run a plex server on his pi?

[dull garnet]

nah

[umbral moss]

I mean, windows is run by a multi billion dollar company, they can afford to provide some superseeders

also, XIV's torrent patcher was fucking awful and it almost always failed lmao

I still have a directory filled with the torrent files to patch 1.0 to 1.23

the computer that had 1.0 on it died

I don't have a legacy install anymore 😭

[modest moss]

should ping her probably

really?

@potent arrow hi ilu

let's see if I get shanked

we'll see lol

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-sebastian-ltt-twch-tips-gif-20475951

They're near Vancouver in the loosest sense of the word apparently heh

How do you pronounce Coquitlam? Coe-kit-lam?

Oconomowoc is a fun Wisconsin one

I remember as a kid someone pulled into the driveway to ask for directions to "oh-coe-nom-in-a-wock"

[modest moss]

Richmond is in Surrey

It literally is

Okay I'm wrong

Technically it was transferred to Greater London

[sly walrus]

london's in ontario

[modest moss]

Richmond was formerly part of the ancient parish of Kingston upon Thames in the county of Surrey. In 1890, the town became a municipal borough, which was later extended to include Kew, Ham, Petersham and part of Mortlake (North Sheen).[9] The municipal borough was abolished in 1965, when, as a result of local government reorganisation, Richmond was transferred from Surrey to Greater London

I'm not talking about fake Richmond and fake Surrey, you Commonwealth peasant

[sly walrus]

also london was the littlest hobo

[modest moss]

I used to watch that

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/laughs-in-british-britain-british-laughs-lol-gif-20412690

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/enjoy-life-did-you-enjoy-that-i-did-i-enjoyed-i-did-enjoy-gif-17361627

[modest moss]

It's my civic duty to pick on Canadians, Australians, etc

[sly walrus]

shue keeping the british raj alive in 2022

[odd sand]

Better watch yourself, or AU will sic the emus on you again

Then decided they wanted to keep that remote penal colony spirit by maintaining shit internet services to this day

He's waiting to go to the gym with you and lift

[umbral moss]

also a horrendous import/export tariff so getting anything australian related is a nightmare

[odd sand]

Yeah their games are still $125 AUD despite not having a physical product to import anymore

[potent arrow]

That's not how this works

[potent arrow]

[meager cargo]

How many hours until iOS 16?

[odd sand]

Because politicians want their money no matter what

[meager cargo]

How hard it is to make a game to run in better fps and resolution?

[potent arrow]

I mean its 230v, thats the issue

change the breaker to 120V and you are fine

[umbral moss]

just add a step-down at the point of use

[potent arrow]

plz

[umbral moss]

also, heater units need their own breaker panel and wiring by design

so if something happens you don't have to turn off the entire fucking service

[modest moss]

I think you should hire a professional, or fly Sarah to you and pay her

I say this because I don't want you to die

[hard drift]

It’s been that way for a while now, they did that back in 2021 as you can see by the article date

[potent arrow]

Get an electrician.

[dull garnet]

fun fact

i live in the original Surrey

:o

[umbral moss]

don't worry, they'll get to 100 when you start driving

[modest moss]

alright poshboy

[dull garnet]

hardly

Hoping to move somewhere more affordable soon

[jaunty light]

Shrimple

Rent a decrepit basement for 40 quid

[umbral moss]

just give me money and I'll show you photos of a place to live

[deep sapphire]

Bro

[graceful pine]

I know someone who tried to jump starta car engine with the battery of an electric car lol

[deep sapphire]

https://youtube.com/shorts/IkHaZ_5Nik8?feature=share

[umbral moss]

that worked wonderfully for exactly 1 microsecond before the starter exploded

[odd sand]

Big oof https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/03/the-sultan-of-bruneis-rotting-supercar-collection/

[graceful pine]

Actually think he was jumpstarting his RV now that I recall it

[umbral moss]

not any better

attaching 800VDC to a motor meant for 48V at most is bad news for those poor commutators

just going to blow the switching contacts right off

[modest moss]

you speak to them politely and ask them to be more careful

have the parents responded?

is there damage?

put a camera up

[dull garnet]

This isn't the same magnitude but

Some kid jumped on a ketchup pack outside McDonald's and ketchup splattered on me and my partner. Kid apologised but come onnn

[modest moss]

rekt

[deep sapphire]

Yeah you enjoy that Heinz smell

[graceful pine]

they don't use heinz anymore

[potent arrow]

Set up security camera asap, so you can have proof for insurance when they inevitable damage your car lol

[modest moss]

McD's dropped Heinz ketchup because Heinz appointed the former Burger King boss as the Heinz boss

[graceful pine]

nope they use their own now

it tastes similar of course

but no mcdonalds use heinz anymore

after Warren Buffet bought heinz a burger king guy got appointed as CEO and they dropped Heinz

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

What the fuck no Heinz

Last time I eat there

It’s like if you saw hunts

Imagine buying hunts

Shit tastes like vinegar and diarrhea

[modest moss]

we just buy aldi ketchup

it's ok

[deep sapphire]

I won’t buy anything other than Heinz

[modest moss]

so much cheaper

[deep sapphire]

Heinz is the ketchup

[modest moss]

you are a single rich boomer with no kids though babe

[deep sapphire]

Everything else is shit

[deep sapphire]

True

Not until next month

My Chevy is on its last legs

Shit rattles clunks and the whole 9 yards

Tons of electrical issues, cords shorting out

Lmao

I’m tired of putting money into it, just give me my truck

What is that

A Chinese automaker?

[modest moss]

Heinz ketchup is 3.7x the price of aldi ketchup

[deep sapphire]

I guess if you use it a lot it adds up. A bottle lasts me awhile so it never bothered me but yeah with a family that shit adds up

[jaunty light]

3.7x better

as an american, we must add ketchup to all food

[modest moss]

it gets used a fair amount, my son has bbq sauce with everything though

[jaunty light]

it is an excellent way to get your extra vegetable intake

[jaunty light]

for this we adhere to the ancient tradition of sweet baby rays

[modest moss]

he's 10, he gets aldi sauce and loves it

[jaunty light]

i wish i didnt

[jaunty light]

soon he will learn the wisdom of america's founding father, mike suckerberg, and become bougie

[small steppe]

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor 3.40 GHz
RAM: 16 GB
Windows 10 Home
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
SSD: 120 GB
HDD: 1 TB

for how much can i sell that pc

[modest moss]

not a huge amount, maybe $300?

[meager cargo]

Anyone experiencing loose port on ip13 series?

This post explained it better

https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhone13/comments/qfnlt7/iphone_13_pro_loose_charging_port/

[modest moss]

sounds like something I'd contact apple about

[meager cargo]

I did but unfortunately my phone type is rare lately and the issue can’t be really replicated on the go. So I’ll have to put my only phone for some days which is not an option 😦

[sly elk]

< ARGH

with these smart lights the ne thing i was really looking forward to ws the remote

and neither of the ones I bought seem to work at all 😦 GG

and for as many as they've sold ,the wizmote doesn't have much documentation

[jaunty light]

Ya wiz stuff barely works in my experience

[umbral moss]

member when I said lightning's key weakness was that the retention springs are part of the port and not the cable, making the entire fuckin phone useless when the springs failed?

and USB-C was specifically designed to reverse it so the springs are on the cable, which is easy to replace if it breaks?

[jaunty light]

Ur just wrong

Apple can do no wrong!

[umbral moss]

yeah, pretty much

apple dabes

goated

[meager cargo]

My iPhone is fairly new

[umbral moss]

that doesn't mean the springs can't eat shit

loose connector + poor contact to the lightning spade sounds a lot like the connector springs are fucked and it's not gripping the cable correctly

[meager cargo]

A month old and I’m always careful

[meager cargo]

I see. But why it happens after 1 hour or so. But temporarily fixed after I replugged?

I read on some posts that the issue goes away if I use the original cable and charger from Apple

[hard drift]

just get a wireless charger then you don't have to worry about it dying

[meager cargo]

Yeah, that’s what I’m planning if it gets worse over time

[modest moss]

if it's only a month old, I'd get that shit refunded

[meager cargo]

I would like to bring it to a service center but my iPhone type is quiet rare in my area and the issue is rare where I can’t force replicate it. Which then I have to leave my phone with them for awhile. It’s my only phone :/

[modest moss]

buy a cheap temporary phone, something used

[meager cargo]

Money's tight atm 🙃

I guess I have to just live with it for now

[hard drift]

google has a countdown

[umbral moss]

there's still people making crypto shit though

saw a router on indiegogo that's some kind of stupid ass eth-based POS router

I still don't know what the point of having crypto on your fucking router is if you're not getting paid to rent unused bandwidth out

[hard drift]

i mean crypto shit will likely keep developing

[umbral moss]

I'm just puzzled how anyone thought it was a good use of anyone's time to make a blockchain system that is only powered by routers

like, great, the mining system is POS and it uses a relatively low cost of entry device, but why

what does blockchain benefit you, especially if you're not being paid in a useful way

[hard drift]

i'd like the round look more if there was a series of heatpipes also curved around the front

[umbral moss]

why aren't there any really exotic designs out there

just big bricks and big round bricks

[hard drift]

too expensive to design i guess 😔

[sly elk]

So far the lights are working great though

Just that stupid remote

I’m sending the remotes back and keeping the lights lol

The way they did wiz seems ok enough anyway, I think the light bulbs run a web server and you can spam it with Jason

Json

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fate-series-fate-grand-order-fate-gilgamesh-gilgamesh-gif-16334604

[sly walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-heavy-rain-press-x-gif-13607167

[deep sapphire]

I’ve already explained to you the lightning port is very robust

Do you even own an iPhone? Probably not. I also love to talk about things I have no experience with either

I never used it I’ve heard it’s pretty good

[umbral moss]

my kingdom for an RCA jack

I don't need my phone to be thinner than a credit card so it can be bent if I put it in my back pocket

[sly elk]

My XS battery is at 84% after 3.5 years hehe

[somber solstice]

[sly elk]

they look like shoes

I think it's funny that the edgerouter i bought didn't come with an ethernet cable, but the camera I bought did 😄

like a 'to configure this thing' 3 footer

[sly elk]

oh yea I figured out this stupid thing with the wizmotes

they don't say it anywhere, but if I select a particular lightbulb in a room in the app before trying to add the wizmote, and then stand by said lightbulb with the wizmote, it pairs right away

if I try to add it to the room with no particular bulb selected, it won't pair lol

also these amcrest cams >>

they revised them but kept the same product listing

[deep sapphire]

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHTR3890?impressionRank=1

I want this

But 140 bucks

I know it’s NAPA so it’s a premo

[sly elk]

it's a shame raspberry pis are such a ripoff atm

[umbral moss]

are they overpriced now?

I thought pi zero was like $4

[sly elk]

i mean, so was the edgerouter x I ended up getting ahahaha

oh that's if you can get one

at least I have a vpn server now though

but i wanted to setup home assistant too

oh well

[potent arrow]

I love my edge router

I got it from a local contractor suplier

[sly elk]

Before I bought my UDM at home I wanted an er4

Nice and beefy

The erx is great for messing around with all the toys and then realizing 256mb ram and storage isn’t much lol

I’m not even there though so no worries 😄

[dull garnet]

i have a pi pico in my gamecube

[umbral moss]

worse, it's real but the company is a techbro startup with VC funding

so they can afford to pay you for 3 months and then the company goes under

how well do you know blockchain, anyway

I guarantee that's their company focus, some kind of nebulous blockchain shit that's trying to reinvent the wheel in a perfectly fine use case

we utilize blockchain to manage inventory transactions from birth to death

also known as a fucking inventory management software

thanks, this is useless

blockchain doesn't do anything better than a standard ERP software frontend on a database

[tame tartan]

if i wanted erp software frontends i'd just go to limsa

[jaunty light]

4 hours of computation later aha, i found the inventory asset!

[odd sand]

Noice. Glad I waited. Price dropped $15, plus $20 off instant coupon + $20 rebate card. So final price of $145 then + tax/shipping

[dull garnet]

but wot did you buy

[odd sand]

Corsair H150i AIO

With the +$20 "white tax" heh

The regular version is MSRP $180 instead of 200

Also why the fuck Newegg... I ordered 3 things earlier in the week and they're shipping each one separately on the same day from the same warehouse

I can understand the case being separate bc its probably just sent in its own box. But the other 2 could have easily gone in their own box together

[sly elk]

i like mine ^^

[odd sand]

I dunno how I feel about a front mount, but its the only spot I can use 360mm on this case. Have to see if I can repurpose the front case fans it came with, otherwise I have the ones on the old AIO I can use as intake or exhaust

Purely an aesthetic problem, but exhaust from the top would have the fans facing the correct way. flipping them around wouldnt look as nice but sometimes you have to make sacrifices for thermals I guess

[sly elk]

i have mine on top of the radiator pulling air off it 😄

[odd sand]

Well if I have a front mount, the top fans wouldn't be attached to a rad

Nephew likes red, so rather than include my existing fans with the AIO when I pass the old hardware over, I got some red led fans to put on it instead

Along with the red Fractal Design Focus G

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/13/ios-16-battery-percentage-certain-iphone-models/

Buy a new phone or you can't see your battery charge. Sounds legit.

[umbral moss]

I'm sure there's a good technical reason for it

let's wait for someone to come in and explain why not having it is good, actually

[odd sand]

I'm sure it's something simple like the notch is too wide in the older phones to fit it on there, but that goes back to the notch being a stupid idea in the first place

[umbral moss]

they probably removed it because people complained about the UI when they added it

[odd sand]

Or here's a thought: Let people decide what they want in their ribbon and don't worry about it

[umbral moss]

I mean, there still isn't a "clear all" that removes all notifications

I'm a big fan of my pixel 2 XL getting notifications in parallel with my main phone and when I go to clear the notification it takes like 40 minutes of clearing 1000+ notifications out

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/notifications-gif-9344396

[umbral moss]

just live a minimal lifestyle where nobody contacts you

now you don't have to worry about it

see, it's not the product that needs to change, it's you

the cosmic brain strategy

suffer in notification hell then

you shouldn't

sounds like BC is a long lost US state

you are legally entitled to: work until you die

you are not legally entitled to: any protections or benefits as an employee

white collar workers tend to be mistreated because they get paid so much

you can work 90 hour weeks because you get paid $500k a year

I wouldn't do 60 for it either

there's no justification for working 60 hours a week, you're not getting 50% more productivity out by working those extra 20 hours

that's straight copium

every minute you spend working is just draining your resolve to do a good job

I should find a new job but I don't know what I want to do

[odd sand]

Blind them with your lasers to clear your escape route

[modest moss]

😎

[umbral moss]

I just want to get paid to do something interesting

[odd sand]

That's very subjective and only something you can answer for yourself heh

[odd sand]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/12/23348620/intel-13th-gen-cpus-raptor-lake-6ghz-stock-8ghz-overclocked

https://tenor.com/view/mori-calliope-moripog-callipog-gif-19078476

I assume it will be like the 13900KS which won't be out right away

https://www.thedrive.com/news/we-found-motorolas-secret-chevy-corvette-ev-prototype-from-the-1990s

https://www.carbibles.com/i-drove-to-chicago-to-look-at-a-chinese-military-jeep/

[umbral moss]

instant savings! save $1 on a 3090 ti!

one crisp paulbuck

$1.50

it's fine though, they're going to sell the 4090 for $4000 so they can afford to give a single digit discount

just needs to go faster than the 3090

nvidia has a long legacy of selling products they know will catch fire

for all zero % of the time you're getting those XXXTREME overclocks anyway

my titan can barely manage 2050 core before it starts to eat shit

[odd sand]

Are you fucking kidding me? They advertise it as 1700 compatible and say to contact the maker for the proper bracket ... the link sends you to a corsair page where they SELL you the 1700 retention kit for $8... https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Cooling/LGA1700-Retrofit-Kit/p/CW-8960091

[sly elk]

... it didn't come with it?

pretty sure mine did...

nah i just bought mine from best buy

and the funnier part is it's a regular h150i elite in black

so it could've easily been old stock

[odd sand]

That's why I'm gonna wait on ordering the bracket until I see what I receive.

At any rate, they shouldn't charge for something like that if they don't include it. And if they do, it's on them for not updating their item descriptions.

Socket 1700 has been around for over a year now.

I considered doing a full watercooling setup, but really don't want to spend over $500 on a watercooling solution atm when the CPU and motherboard will be quite expensive already

[sly elk]

the h150i reviews on amazon suggest they're shipping them with 1700 brackets

i agree though

[odd sand]

I expected it would be maybe 300-400, then when I specced it out I think it was going to be like 750 or something...

[sly elk]

and I think if you bug them

they'll probably send one free

[odd sand]

Just the CPU

I used the configurator for my case and hardware

I think it was also split-rad bc its the 570X, so it was going to do 240 top 120 rear

I'm just going to front mount the 150i. Dunno what I'm gonna do with the existing front fans, may have to just shelve them as spare parts

I've got time though bc I probably won't get my hands on the CPU until Nov

[sly elk]

i wonder why text in webex is blurry

like the #*@#% participants list names lmao

[jaunty light]

But why not 7950x3d

[deep sapphire]

[hard drift]

😔

Can’t use the emote anymore

[hard drift]

I’m leaving 😭

[modest moss]

👋

[royal forge]

Why does that leaked 4090 card look like a slipper

[sharp star]

so you can bludgeon someone with it

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/george-bush-angry-shoe-throw-dodge-gif-5298606

[royal forge]

Thiccest slipper ever

[sly elk]

the sandal from those india car repair videos

that says SPORTS on it

[dull garnet]

sega sports tennis

[umbral moss]

la chancla takes flight

also corsair's watercooling stuff is dummy expensive

[umbral moss]

I mean, you can buy VPP655s and never worry about pressure/tubing length lmao

they last forever and they're fairly cheap

https://www.performance-pcs.com/water-cooling/pumps/alphacool-vpp655-pwm-g1-4-ig-inkl-top-ac-13173.html

I've been running 2x VPP655 in series since 2013 with no issues

I have the non PWM version so there's a manual speed controller on the body

🤔

I also painted the mounting brace for the pump with plastidip so it's got some mild anti-vibration dampening

[hard drift]

https://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Platinum-Cybenetics-Modular-SST-HA850R-PT/dp/B0BDCKFCW4 so expensive for 850w just for pcie5.0/atx 3.0 😭

it is

that's the whole point of the new connector smh

it handles all of that better

the news was about converters

not the native plug

going from 2x8 -> 12vhpwr or 3x8-> 12vhpwr was not within specs and would risk overcurrent

yes

it's one of the first available ones

that's the point of the new connector, it handles the spikes a lot better so you don't trip it

the connector itself is like 600w and then the extra port is to better control power so that you can run say a 4090 with a lower spec'd psu

i mean a 4090 + 7700x would work pretty well

🤨

if you want a 12100f might as well get the new T parts

why're you looking at a 7700k???

lmao

plus the new intel T parts might be really good for gamers, 35w and supposedly is on par with a 12900k except in multi core

if it actually stays 35w, that'll be the way to go

12900k was never really a gamer cpu anyways lol

highest end is always overkill/enthusiast

[royal forge]

Why use VM?

Why not

Double the failure rate

U can suffer wih mw

Legit dumb

They should tho

[modest moss]

you hear a whistling noise when you use wall sockets?

that's

concerning

did you buy your house on aliexpress?

[umbral moss]

🤔

the surface charge does have a pretty loud coil whine

[hard drift]

If you’re sensitive to the frequency a ton of chargers do it first or third party doesn’t matter

[modest moss]

I have never heard a charger whistle

[umbral moss]

especially if you're using both the main charger and USB port

[hard drift]

Probably aren’t sensitive to it

[modest moss]

I'll just assume it's because of our stronk british 240v goodness

[umbral moss]

uh. crackling electronics is 100% not supposed to happen lmao

you are the most cursed hardware person ever

[hard drift]

Crackling???

You are cursed smh, whistle sure crackle no

[umbral moss]

"You will have unlimited money to buy electronics, but everything you purchase will be defective"

the monkey's paw curls

the curse is only one curse

[odd sand]

Wow, and I thought servicing a Mac Mini was bad. It's a 40 step process just to clean or replace the case fan on a PS4 lol https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/PlayStation+4+Fan+Replacement/24722

[umbral moss]

with that much effort you could just take the fucking board out and put a regular fan over the PCB

[jaunty light]

[hard drift]

Ps5 is atleast more user serviceable friendly than ps4

[hard drift]

Notifications and shit stacked right below that

Wrong channel

[dull garnet]

I've never had to clean a console

But then I do 90% of my gaming on pc

[odd sand]

Yeah, the user that mentioned it on Reddit, I told them small consolation but at least on the PS5 the fan is right there after removing the decorative panels.

[late basalt]

@deep sapphire car troubleshooting issue you might be able to hep with

[kindred brook]

huh wait am5 doesn't have PCIE 5.0 support?

[paper tusk]

yes but depends on chipset because logic

"AMD's requirements only enforce PCIe 5.0 on the X670E boards, which means PCIe 4.0 will be applicable to lower cost motherboards."

so will get it for m2 ssd (well one m2 slot) but pcie 5 for graphics is limited to money pit boards

[kindred brook]

ugh thats dumb

intel already has pcie 5.0 standard right

why is there give and take BS for next gen

intel is ddr4 + ddr5

support 😠

[paper tusk]

yeah (gen12) alder lake/Z690 is pci-e 5.0

[dull garnet]

you'll never saturate 4 so don't worry about it

[paper tusk]

what i want to know if why the specs even bother with the ability to have 2 gpus on mainstream mobos

[modest moss]

amd user jealous of my juicy pcie 5 slot

[odd sand]

Gonna have to settle for 7000mbps like a pleb

[dull garnet]

i have pcie 3

[modest moss]

amd user jealous of everyone

[paper tusk]

just gib me more m2 slots/pcie slots (and bare minimum sata that doesn't conflict with said m2/pcie or itself in terms of ethernet lanes or wifi capability)

[dull garnet]

amd user with a completely unsaturated pcie 3 bus

[modest moss]

I'm quite tempted to get a pixel 6a, can get one for £295 and a free google nest hub and mini thrown in

but the offers keep getting better, maybe there'll be something even cheaper

[dull garnet]

that's pretty good

android 13 is pretty good

barely different from 12

[modest moss]

the extras would just be ewaste though

but they're free

[dull garnet]

take em to cex or something

i got the bose headphone pre-order promo on my pixel 6 and sold them to offset the cost a bit, got about 100

[odd sand]

Isn't this always basically true? The last new feature that seems novel is the picture in picture mode from Android8

[dull garnet]

ui changed a bit with 12, 13 doesn't even have that

[kindred brook]

man

I was all hyped for amd

but now PCI-E 4.0 right now

SMH

[paper tusk]

yeah would be hardcore dependent on good use of available lanes (and resisting the urge to mux pcie 3/sata and call it a day instead of use a controller to free up some lanes for wifi)

same with going for 10gb ethernet on the remaining chipset lanes

I doubt that will happen

probably going to wait for next intel socket (gen 14) and upgrade to that

[kindred brook]

lol

[umbral moss]

I mean, they kinda don't

unless you run a server you'll never pin those sustained read/write speeds

[paper tusk]

^

[umbral moss]

your average drive usage case is "load game" or if you're really using the drive, "install game"

[paper tusk]

better iops/random read will do better at game load times

[umbral moss]

a nice 40 second sustained burst

and then it's back to idling for the next 16 months

[dull garnet]

[citation needed]

shouldn't be the case

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/ikrteg/nvidia_rep_on_pcie_30_vs_40_for_the_rtx_3090_the/

either it was operating in 8x mode or that board was really messed up

lemme just google translate this one image that barely supports your point :p

ah

ass creed

no wait

death stranding

with dlss

[kindred brook]

https://videocardz.com/newz/leaked-lenovo-geforce-rtx-4090-legion-gpu-is-a-true-quad-slot-design

bruh not even 6 slots

SMH

[dull garnet]

😍

[odd sand]

At this point, I think that's larger than a NUC

[kindred brook]

HAHAHAHAHHAA

[umbral moss]

since when does lenovo make GPUs?

[potent arrow]

For their prebuilts

[odd sand]

I thought it was Oct 20th?

Or that's right you get your super secret preorder list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845HUaWYSQA

First one is proper camelCase of course...

It's like audio cabling/equipment. There's a long tail with exponential price increase

[umbral moss]

with the same amount of diminishing returns

[odd sand]

So 90% as good could be 10% the cost

[umbral moss]

there's a big difference between $1 and $10, and again from $10 to $100, but not from $100 to $1000

[odd sand]

I thought about getting one, but I already have a ryobi electric hand driver so its not worth it to me

And I have a 0.5mm philips for stuff like M.2 slots

If it still POSTs it's not tight enough.