#technology-discussion

1 messages · Page 18 of 1

odd sand
#

I'd just get a conservative case then you don't mind ditching

royal forge
#

Ye. Das one factor

odd sand
#

Yeah SFF could be an option, then it could fit in a carry-on np

royal forge
#

Maybe not Sarah level of SFF

sly elk
#

haha if it were me I'd just stick with a durable af case and just carry the damn thing as-is bwahhaa

odd sand
#

The monitor I would just sell before you leave then

sly elk
#

but i also used to just carry my powermac with me places'

#

but back then video cards were small and weighed very little

royal forge
#

yea... but im thinkin of getting dual 1440p monitors

#

and those.. well

#

lets just say that where I am, that's hard to sell

#

Oh, i almost forgot

#

VERY niche Q

#

but does anyone know how to record part of a screen in something light-weight-ish

#

and portable

#

I got some CT scans to record, but gif cam is horrendous at it

odd sand
royal forge
#

i was just also wondering regarding transporting my 1080p monitor from home, here

#

many many headaches

odd sand
#

Cut a piece of cardboard to size and use painters tape to secure it in place on the screen side. Take the stand part off and toss the thing in carry-on

#

Pad around it with your clothes

royal forge
#

good idea

inland mauve
#

god i hate this update to discord android

#

it's so bad and buggy

royal forge
#

yep

dull garnet
#

Go back

inland mauve
#

the problem with rolling back is that they don't support the previous major version anymore

#

so no security updates

#

however

#

it would not surprise me for one second if this version has some major security hole in it that's just waiting to be discovered

#

because it is just that bad

loud wing
#

what’s a good power supply for ffxiv ?

#

planning to get a desktop bc my laptop keeps shitting itself when i play

dull garnet
#

Depends on power requirements of your hardware

lost python
#

youtube just recommended me an ancient relic again

sly elk
#

ahhh!!

dull garnet
#

quiet today

jaunty light
#

No talking in the datacenter

sharp dew
#

So my PS4 controller is shot and basically remote for my console at this point. Figure it doesn’t hurt to upgrade. Console gamers: any preferred PS4 compatible controllers to suggest?

dull garnet
#

dual shock 4

potent arrow
#

So like

#

I just got home from a four day camping trip

sly walrus
#

i’m sorry

potent arrow
#

I turn on my computer and it started to spray water everywhere

#

And instead of fixing it, I decided to take a fat shit on my clean toilet

#

So here I am

inland mauve
#

you didn't need to share that, but you did it anyway

#

and I am both awestruck and disgusted

royal forge
#

The LTT screwdriver costs HOW much?

potent arrow
#

Don't even bring it up

#

I'll morb

royal forge
#

I was just gonna link the 30min vid

#

Of him walking through the process

potent arrow
#

And stick with my Klein/Wera/wiha

#

I'll block you

royal forge
#

Inb4 1 hour vid on ltt bag

#

Hope u watchin the Gundam prologue

potent arrow
#

I watched it when it came out in Japanese lol

royal forge
#

Anyway, back to the screwdriver vid

potent arrow
#

Premptive block

royal forge
#

Lmao

#

Im genuinely surprised at how much they sellin. Like.. 40k in a day or smthn?

#

Or 20k?

potent arrow
#

They literally have millions of subs

#

And even if 10% of them are blind diehard fanboys buy it, it'll be more the that

royal forge
#

Ye. But i aint shellin out, what, 70 or 80 USD

#

For a fuckin screw driver

potent arrow
#

Because you are smarter then idiot teens

#

If you are a tradey worth your salt, you would've gone with a better brand

#

Or if you are a normie tech nerd, ifixit

#

My system is probably fine

#

There's so much corrosion on my board already

#

I don't care anymore, I can just swap it out when it dues eventually

#

And fyi, I reserve the right to bully anyone using the LTT screwdriver irl if I run into them on a job

#

Like the price bothers me solely because you can get a proper tool for the same price

#

It's like a cost of a ln esd safe flushcutter for me 🤣

sly elk
#

sigh

#

oh yea I agree

#

I have 2 types of screwdriver handy

#

one is a generic changeable bit kit I got from frys for like $10

#

and the other is a #2 phillips stanley screwdriver that I got from walmart for like $3

deep sapphire
#

Milwaukee demolition screwdrivers

sly elk
#

I've had the pleasure of using better stuff (like WIHA) but I haven't really felt "damn I hate this thing" about what I have haha

#

the stanley is just the right size to not strip anything that it fits

#

the cheap frys bitdrivers are flimsy enough that in such a situation, it's more likely the bit will strip

potent arrow
#

honestly thats a mood

#

I have my expensive ESD safe shit

#

then my shitty mastercrap stuff

sly elk
#

i kinda want an esd safe set

#

and a good esd wristband

#

... and maybe an esd wristband.. tester?

potent arrow
#

I uh

#

fried a 200$ fpga board

#

so I got scared and went full ESD safe xD

sly elk
#

I am ashamed to say that at work, I've put my hands on an esd mat and zapped it a few times before >>

#

when we didn't have esd straps at our desk benches I used to just keep a hand on the mat hahahah

sly elk
#

and admittedly, ESD tools are.. not expensive at all

#

oooo

dull garnet
#

I like my wera screadrivers

#

Pretty much only use ph00 - 2

umbral moss
#

I vaguely remember seeing that the price premium for wiha is just a german tax, mostly

#

they're not demonstrably better than other drivers to justify how expensive they are

odd sand
#

I'm not going to argue the price isn't a lot, but it at least sounded like they put a lot of thought and effort into the screwdriver from hearing them talk about the design and fab process on wan show a number of times

#

And they were running demo events where you could use their screwdriver against a range of other popular ones bc they knew ppl would think it was BS

sly elk
#

where do I fall on this

#

I chose to do it because I enjoyed doing it, and it pays well.... and I only bother to do it if i'm getting paid 😄

jaunty light
#

Its me the 55iq

sly elk
#

I'm not sure where I stand on my own IQ lol

#

i always did well on the tests that sounded like IQ tests, and I think at one point in 3rd grade I was even given an IQ test to judge whether i should get moved to gifted classes or not (they did)

#

but idk what kinda number lmao

graceful pine
#

it's a bit kinda weird

#

but like adaptive intelligence ish

#

and pattern recognition

modest moss
#

IQ is largely useless and arbitrary

#

all it says is you're good at those specific kinds of tests

jaunty light
#

Yeah thats what the doc said when i got a 60

sly elk
#

my dad didn't let me skip classes lol

#

Relax, Sarah's water cooling was 2 AIOs frankensteined together

jaunty light
#

So simple just weld together 2 EKs for a custom loop

#

Rub LM on them and theyll fuse

graceful pine
graceful pine
#

It’s definitely not precise

modest moss
#

it shows about as much as a 5 minute conversation with somebody

odd sand
#

Speaking of the screwdriver, even if you don't want to buy one this is a really neat video seeing them cover their entire design process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K5Gqp1cEcM

Visit https://www.squarespace.com/LTT and use offer code LTT for 10% off

Start your FREE 30-day SimpleMDM trial and claim your exclusive 50% discount at https://lmg.gg/V2tT5

We finally finished it, the LTT screwdriver is up for sale: https://www.lttstore.com/products/screwdriver

Discuss on the forum: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1452692-wh...

▶ Play video
modest moss
#

ban Shinon for being a LTT merch shill

odd sand
#

How often do you get to see product design gone over from schematics to problems and different materials chosen etc.

jaunty light
#

Just buy a JIS screwdriver and be done with it

odd sand
#

🤷‍♀️ OCD ppl gonna OCD. (Linus)

jaunty light
#

Japan: our finest creation, the JIS philip standard..
Americans: aw hell no pardner, our underpaid overworked factry staff gon'break shit with that deal

sly elk
#

oh i see, it has a ratchet thingy built in

jaunty light
#

Giant shaft for extra leverage and user pleasure, exchangable bits to keep it exciting?

#

Unusable except in atx super towers

dull garnet
#

Yeah I don't get what is so amazing about this

#

Orange accents!

sly elk
#

in a desktop virtually every screw is phillips

#

unless you went edgy and bought torx screws haha

jaunty light
#

Custom designed security bits to keep those tsa agents from stealing my parts

odd sand
odd sand
#

Like the person responsible for the warehouse and ordering new product and setting pricing properly for the online site etc.

sly elk
#

yea I know

#

like i said, dude's always messing with computer hardware, so I'm surprised he'd want a screwdriver like that

#

but whatever floats his boat

modest moss
#

wait

#

it's SEVENTY dollars

#

fucking lol

jaunty light
#

what seriously

modest moss
#

yeah, $69.99

#

plus $10.99 shipping to CA for you

jaunty light
#

@deep sapphire

modest moss
#

and presumably tax

sly elk
#

ffs

#

for that much you can get the weha esd screwdrivers

jaunty light
sly elk
#

also I thihnk I might need a new toner again

#

my prints are all stripey

modest moss
#

I mean, it's a screwdriver aimed at PC building nerds

jaunty light
modest moss
#

I built this pc with a fucking unbranded pound shop screwdriver ffs

jaunty light
#

tap the case edges and then go is what I do

modest moss
#

a 4 pack, 2 flat head and 2 phillips for £1

#

bought like 20 years ago and still screw screws in

jaunty light
#

only time I've ever used grounding equipt was doing a mobo transplant on a server that cost more than I make in a year

modest moss
#

I had to use those wristband things back in the 90s

#

IBM love rules

jaunty light
#

big blue always has an eye on you

modest moss
#

they fire you if you call in sick on NYE and then show up to the pub after work has finished

#

just an FYI

jaunty light
deep sapphire
sly elk
burnt swallow
#

I has question

#

Why do my intake fans spin at roughly 1090 RPM on average but my exhaust fans and CPU fan spin at between ~366 and 405 RPM?

jaunty light
#

PWM?

sly elk
#

idk. sensor inaccuracies, turbulence, maybe the controller sucks and can't keep it at the exact speed? idk

#

are they all the same model of fan?

#

and how do you have them connected?

#

admittedly that doesn't necessarily mean a lot

burnt swallow
burnt swallow
#

The exhaust fans are daisy-chained together and plugged into the connector meant for a radiator pump fan because I can't reach the SYS_FAN 6 connector in the middle of my mobo

sly elk
#

-nod-

burnt swallow
#

Because it turns out the D15S is fucking massive

sly elk
#

hehe

deep sapphire
#

@sly elk

sly elk
#

damn

#

i'm impressed it doesn't have square headlights

#

it's not like they didn't exist

#

that is one square truck

jaunty light
sly elk
#

i get the impression the wipers are vacuum operated

jaunty light
sly elk
burnt swallow
#

And my CPU doesn't get hot because I have a D15S on a freaking i5

#

And play League

jaunty light
#

league player?

modest moss
#

we could be truckers

#

you in that and me in this

burnt swallow
odd sand
#

Needs one of those sleeper cabs that's like 20ft long like a mini apartment /s

sly elk
#

lol

#

so like the ones fedex uses

odd sand
#

Never seen one with a trailer that small but yeah lol

#

I assume since it says Custom Critical, they run 2 drivers who trade off with one sleeping

sly elk
#

yep

odd sand
#

And these days you can have satellite internet and shit with a PC back there

deep sapphire
paper tusk
#

scree (h.267/ECM video codec development set for 2025. decoder complexity is estimated to be "only" 5x more complex than VVC. will be a clean 30% better compression)

umbral moss
#

EV g-wagen pogianger

odd sand
#

Mac users would think a stupid swing open keyboard shelf was acceptable in a desk /s

#

Why the fuck is this so narrow? Picking a desk is going to be hard

modest moss
#

yeah that seemed to be the trend a few years ago, slim desks

#

I ended up buying an oblong dining table

odd sand
#

You beveled it the wrong way you dipshits

#

They only work if you have a clamp mount monitor then or just set your laptop on the table

fallen chasm
#

Idk if this would be the right channel but it's a tech thing, but does anyone happen to know how this server got Kupobot to auto post news? I know about the channel follow thing but wanted to possibly know how they got Kupo to do it. Google has been absolutely no help.

modest moss
#

!faq kupohelp

opal pantherBOT
modest moss
#

I'd join that discord and ask there

fallen chasm
#

Yeah they told me to just follow the channel, but that just makes the channel post it, not Kupo. Thanks though

odd sand
#

Wow... how is this only $115? Oh wait... /s

#

See, these are nice bc they bevel the edges

#

Once again the staging...

umbral moss
tame tartan
#

they're called "rich people" and it's bold of you to assume they have to work smugsumika

odd sand
#

This one is really nice, but I'd ask them if they could make it without the drawer

#

Made from reclaimed wood, so you can see from the grain its old growth

umbral moss
#

I just don't like those weird right-angle designs

#

takes up a lot of space and you're kind of stuck facing a corner

potent arrow
modest moss
potent arrow
#

Mm?

#

Are you referring to the thing under the desk?

#

Because that's a standing desk remote

modest moss
#

that bit

#

that's just to raise/lower the surface then?

potent arrow
#

Yeah

#

Standing desk remote

#

Up down and various profiles to save height

modest moss
#

would be cool to have io there, usb, headphones etc

potent arrow
#

Mine has 3? 3. Profiles

#

Lol I experimented with Io under desk

#

Was a bad idea because if the chair hit it, it destroyed the usb port or the connector

modest moss
#

I hate arm rests on office chairs so should be ok for me

#

but yeah I can see that being an issue

odd sand
#

They offer the desk in regular legs or the adjustable. I dunno if I care about the adjustable. I've never needed a standing desk so I think it would just be an extra $150 for something I wouldn't use.

#

And if I really felt like it later, I could just buy the adjustable legs and mount the desk on it

modest moss
#

the surface does look nice

odd sand
#

Now that's an end table. Break you before you break the table lol

sly elk
#

in an office i get it since you want to have them all in the same place

#

i saw a super bougie adjustable desk where they stuck that controller in the drawer lol

potent arrow
#

Mine had an IR remore

#

So I had the smarthome IR transmitter

#

Hooked up to my alexa

#

And put the transmitter and receiver in a drawer xD

sly elk
#

oo

potent arrow
#

So I could be like Alexa, profile 2

modest moss
odd sand
#

How does it send the correct signal? Do you point the actual remote at it and it "records" it?

potent arrow
#

Yeah

odd sand
#

Hasn't that been true of all of them, and most ppl just used an encoder that didnt give af about licensing? heh

#

Is there an h.266 or are they skipping that?

#

Oh, h.266 is VVC

#

I'm surprised they keep getting such large compression gains each time. You'd think at some point you can't magic things smaller and still keep the correct color pixel in the right spot

umbral moss
#

isn't the gain coming from how the parity data is organized, so it takes less data to reconstitute from the original?

#

I bet there will be some horrible breakthrough in video encoding where the actual scene isn't even compressed, it's saved as a set of markers for an AI to reconstitute the image from the markers

bitter girder
#

Ah man

odd sand
#

Needs more Comic Sans

sly elk
#

lol

#
NGRhodes

(Updated) Important upcoming changes to Microsoft Teams desktop client on LinuxUpdated August 30, 2022: We are updating this message to indicate we will be retiring the Microsoft Teams desktop client on Linux in 90 days (early December). Please take action as appropriate for your organization.We hear from you that you want the full richness of M...

potent arrow
#

F u c k

sly elk
#

MS: Why don't you just use Windows with WSL? You don't need desktop Linux anymore.

umbral moss
#

pretty good strategy

sly elk
#

If they can get enough companies on board the "desktop Linux is a security risk, use WSL instead" bandwagon 😄

#

but so far from what I've seen, places that forbid desktop Linux also forbid WSL

umbral moss
kindred brook
#

so

#

its cooler

#

than the 12900k

potent arrow
#

....the new amd chips look...fun

#

I have no idea how I will cool it

#

but it looks fun...

#

I dont think a d15 will fit in my case

#

7950x looks way too fucking fun not to impulse buy with savings

#

idk when the hardware comes out

#

Imma heavily consider it

#

cuz it looks legit pia to water cool

#

im using a 3900x rn

#

Also I might meme

#

and like

#

make my own water block

#

I got a tormach, some copper and some acrylllic

#

what can go wrong

#

I think I have the skills to pull it off

#

plus I am going to have to figure a way to get a thicker rad into the case

#

I might have to mill out part of the case so it protrudes out more >_>

#

Not to mention like figuring out how to power it all

#

no fun in that

#

I mean, I've built many systems already. My personal system is always a hodge podge of shit I experiment with

#

hence why its absolutely mcfucked rn

#

you are so paranoid lol

kindred brook
#

WTF REALLY

#

wow

#

ok thanks

modest moss
#

just

#

don't do it

#

never buy things

#

next time, build for stability and performance, not stupid OTT aesthetics

paper tusk
#

no clue yet spec needs finalized before can figure that. av1 isn't exactly popping everywhere either (even though royalty free)

odd sand
#

This is what I was saying... until this point, Intel has consistently hit 5.0ghz turbo or better for multiple gens. AMD was still stuck like 4.7 4.8 4.9 etc. and suddenly they make claims of 5.7 or even 5.85? I don't believe it until we have verified 3rd party vetting

jaunty light
#

Its magic

#

They adjusted reporting 1GHz up, just like how their tj isnt accurate MyaGrins

#

7950X3D baby

odd sand
#

If you want to buy an entire box of the chips at least haha

#

Or does that just mean retail packaging?

#

What's their list price? Although I assume you're getting wholesale cost

dull garnet
#

i like h264 cus my tv can accelerate it :p

odd sand
#

Similar to AMD, I'm expecting a $699 or $749 price for it

#

Just a small price increase from the 9900K being 499 (Although I got it on sale black friday for like 425)

odd sand
#

Top 0.1% binning or something? heh

sly elk
#

wuut

#

but compression fittings are used all the time for household plumbing

potent arrow
#

Ice I have no idea why you went watercooling if you are so fucking paranoid

hard drift
dull garnet
#

probably rgb lit too

#

or nowhere

#

30 series fe design doesn't need changing

#

i'm biased but i really like how my card looks

sly elk
#

i think it always had that glow on the X shape

dull garnet
#

this reminds me of those LED fans that were cool 20 years ago

sly elk
#

those have been around forever. http://www.xoxide.com/cooljag-pro-flash-80mm-fan.html
the new one looks way nicer though

#

i love the bike wheels that do it

#

yea this is why i'm always dismissive of the whole "RGB ISNT COOL" shit on reddit 😄

dull garnet
#

iirc they would display temps n shit like that lol

sly elk
#

I think I was playing with LED fans before a lot of those 'mature adult that doesn't need RGB' idiots were born

#

so if they feel like they look so mature with their grey felt deskmat and dark wood table -rolls eyes-

modest moss
#

and you weren't

dull garnet
#

i put yate loon in my antec 900 to replace the gaudy blue led ones ;D

#

wouldn't those use too much power

modest moss
#

twinklefleece in a few mins

dull garnet
#

trying my darndest to find these stupid fans on video

#

lol

#

TECHNOLOGY MOVED BACKWARDS

modest moss
dull garnet
odd sand
#

I'm surprised more companies don't make custom shrouds like this for cards rather than needing to buy no-name brand cards to get them

paper tusk
#

you lose some horizontal res if using a tv for a monitor (with clean text) but it's still 4k in my book inochiSmug

dull garnet
#

get a 20" mitsubishi diamondtron

paper tusk
#

wut

#

easier fix is have a tv that supports chroma 4:4:4 and have the system res 3840*2160 and got perfectly clear text

dull garnet
#

122 ms outside game mode sheesh

paper tusk
#

my tcl isn't much better

#

something something budget

dull garnet
#

neither is my Sony looking at it now

#

wish it said what the 720p performance is, that is what i use my MiSTer at

paper tusk
#

yeah I kinda want a mini led but it's way over my fun budget for even next year 😐

#

mostly since I don't trust OLED to not become ewaste in a couple years time with gaming/desktop use

modern iris
#

I have an hdr monitor and hdr on in both settings and my pc, but the screen looks yellow weirdly, what do i do. It looks way better if i disable Windows HDR and only enable my monitor's

paper tusk
#

is blue light reduction/eye safe on in the monitor settings?

#

also how old is the monitor

modern iris
#

It's pretty new, LG Ultragear 2k 165 HZ,

paper tusk
#

I'm thinking eye safe gone wild or the colour temp setting is on warm

modern iris
#

OH

#

I disabled Overclock

#

on my monitor

#

i think it looks good now

paper tusk
#

lg calls eye safe reader mode

#

huh

modern iris
#

NVM

#

Disabling overclock disabled HDR

dull garnet
#

That monitor is probably only 400 nits or so

#

Fake hdr

modern iris
#

Mine or?

paper tusk
#

probably yeah (talking the linked tv)

modern iris
#

Thank God 😭 was about to get a heart attack

dull garnet
#

I meant the monitor

#

Providing the actual model number would be more useful

modern iris
#

Linus reviewed it and said nothin about HDR being fake

#

Where do i check that

dull garnet
#

Not talking about the TV :p

paper tusk
#

oh shycarby

#

(imagine a consumer tv supporting display port inochiDerp )

#

because that requires licensing and the evil things (drm)

dull garnet
#

Imagine buying good hardware to game in linux

paper tusk
#

and linux driver support being more than "recompile the kernel 4head"

modern iris
#

I think my monitor is 27GL850

#

Or the GP version

dull garnet
#

350 nits isn't hdr lol

modern iris
#

Huh, shame

modest moss
#

27GP850-B the one I got, is 450 nits and HDR 10

#

allegedly

modern iris
#

Yea i think mine was GP, in a few hours i can check the cardboard

modest moss
modern iris
#

Looks the exact same as mine

modest moss
#

and when I enable HDR in windows it looks like shit

#

so I ignore it

modern iris
#

Same here, alright thanks

modest moss
#

I like too much colour probably

dull garnet
#

Point is you need about 1000 nits minimum for hdr

#

It's just bad marketing otherwise

#

My Dell also advertises "HDR"

modest moss
#

that's their claim

#

looks janky af

modern iris
#

They played us like a damn fiddle!

modest moss
#

I haven't tinkered much with it for HDR, just went nahh it looks fantastic without it, cya

dull garnet
#

HDR400 isn't even real

#

Lol

modest moss
#

fuck HDR, I don't want realistic shit

dull garnet
#

My TV does up to 1k nits but I don't think my PS4 Pro has anything that demonstrates hdr well

#

So far I haven't seen a noticeable difference when it is apparently enabled

modern iris
#

Aren't Pro games just upscaled to 4K not actually 4k, so add that to HDR and even that is too much for it's specs? (just asking im not a tech guy)

paper tusk
#

yes with checkerboard pattern upscale

modest moss
#

to give an idea of how I like my colours, Lyhe Mheg is the best looking place in XIV

#

saturate that shit

paper tusk
#

ps3 limitations please understand

#

(se kinda let themself in a corner when they programmed deferred rendering to fix frame rate issues from 1.0)

#

so there's only so much can do that's a post processing effect (antialiasing) that doesn't involve clean new code

#

blinks

sly elk
#

so far I'm not sold on HDR

#

HDR = make everything about your monitor worse so that it can emulate the feeling of being blinded by bright lights

paper tusk
#

I'm all for the idea of higher dynamic range but brighter isn't the same as higher colour rendition and accuracy

#

(I'm from a photography background)

#

yeah sofieLost

paper tusk
#

i think that was partly related to the earlier article on first boot time being 2 minuets

#

signal integrity gets shaky with 4 double sided sticks

#

also the ram speed sweet spot being 6000 (price to performance). but I could have sworn I saw something also that new infinity fabric or whatever it'll be named now caps at 6000 for 1:1

#

making me think go intel for next upgrade sofieLost

#

if i had some assurance lga 1700 would last more than next gen (13) chips

hard drift
#

it's 100% not going to be more than just 13th gen

#

it's confirmed

#

pretty much

odd sand
hard drift
#

and we know amd is going to have am5 for atleast 4 gens

#

they confrimed that already

odd sand
#

until 2025 they said, which is 3 or less

hard drift
#

2025 and beyond similar to what they are doing with am4 already

hard drift
odd sand
#

I have a feeling it has more to do with how competitive Intel is than anything

hard drift
#

nah, they'd be stupid to ruin their reputation and do the intel route when most of what got them to where they are now is the fact that the socket lasts so long allowing a lot more upgrading for consumers

odd sand
#

AMD is a company and they did that bc they were the underdog, so they competed on value. Seeing as how they jacked prices after Zen2 and might have a solid lead this year, they may play it by ear to see how Intel does with their chiplet design in 14th gen. If it looks flaky they could press their advantage by not supporting the socket longer. Which would allow them more leeway for innovation

hard drift
#

yeah but destroying their reputation isn't something they want to do either

#

destroying a reputation can break a company

sly elk
hard drift
#

highest end is 100 dollars less

#

that's a substantial cut

odd sand
#

Which is a shrewd move, but they should more than make up for that with the better margins on the lower end CPUs that are staying about the same price

hard drift
#

also supposedly getting 3 x3d products this generation but we'll see about that one

odd sand
#

7600x is the same as 5600x, 7700x is $50 less than 5800x, but otherwise the same core and thread-count. 7900x is the same price as 5900x and 7950x is yes 100 less than 5950x, but I bet the margins are better with the smaller node process

hard drift
#

and it used to be a wider gap

#

so i imagine the 7800x3d product is going to be 470 range for price

#

which makes the new gap kind of sad

odd sand
#

I thought 6000 was the sweet spot, but they can't run it stable higher than 5333?

modest moss
#

have they said anything about the 7 series equivalent of 5600g?

hard drift
#

but we already know the 2 cu in every cpu is roughly 1/3rd steamdeck performance so the apus are going to be killer

deep sapphire
#

AMD IS FINISHED

#

MORALLY AND SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT

hard drift
#

hank bringing nothing to the table like always 🙏 guess that's what you get when intel delays all their products so there's no news haha

sly elk
#

HEH

modest moss
#

no need to rush out products when you're the king

hard drift
#

they lost the gaming crown already 🙏

#

they couldn't even hold it long this time haha

sly elk
#

idk I think Intel doesn't deserve the "solid reliable old guard" title anymore

#

not after the z690 shit show

hard drift
#

intel has lost a lot of its reliable title when they have been lying for a lot of things recently haha

#

not to mention the numerous delays in recent years

sly elk
#

after ice's problems I wouldn't recommend an asus z690 to anyone

hard drift
#

ewww LTG

sly elk
#

i'm suddenly reminded of an idea i had a couple years ago

#

to make a store that sells toilets, but the store itself is basically a bunch of bathrooms

#

so you can test drive all the toilets for reals

hard drift
#

...

deep sapphire
#

You should test drive Bidori’s opinions then

hard drift
#

😔 i'm leaving

modest moss
sly elk
#

i have 2 ssds and if I had a board with 3 ssd connectors then i'd have 3 >> so

modest moss
#

but I didn't buy a stupid top end one with more features than anyone needs

sly elk
#

his wasn't even

#

it didn't even have the Q-LED

modest moss
#

yeah it's the stupid high end white crap

sly elk
#

no it isn't XD

#

like sure it's a strix and not a TUF shit board

modest moss
#

I would buy a third nvme to test mine but I don't care enough

sly elk
#

and not a Prime board

modest moss
#

mine is a prime

sly elk
#

why the heck is the z690 maximus $650?!

modest moss
#

sometimes less is more

#
ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning options via intuitive software and firmware features.

#

that's my one

odd sand
sly elk
#

i wonder what the x670e aorus master will cost

#

crosshair x670e hero... 1106....

#

Gigabyte X670E AORUS Master Motherboard - The $360 US All-Rounder

#

that's pretty reasonable

jaunty light
#

no

#

we must wait until next year for the great chips

dull garnet
#

wait until you're moments from death

umbral moss
odd sand
#

J-just you wait! Intel CPUs are gonna be great! And they're gonna have blackjack, and hookers, and...

hasty harbor
#

So i am looking at hyperx cloud 2

#

Is it still worth going for or Should i go for something Else

hasty harbor
#

Or the alpha version

real edge
#

if you want proper headphones get audiophile headphones like the beyerdynamic 250ohm

#

or open cans if you have no noise near you

#

then get a modmic or a standing mic for communication

#

and ull get the best of both worlds

hasty harbor
#

Can you recoment a headphone and mic

#

Is yeti good for stand mic?

real edge
#

its excessive

#

something like the blue snowball will last you forever unless you manage to toss it to the ground multiple times

#

as for headphones

#

do you have background noise

#

or are you in an isolated room with no noise when gaming

hasty harbor
#

I live alone, so i can play without headset if i want too, its mostly when im Talking, or when i have friends over or when Windows are open

#

You mean this?

real edge
#

yeah

#

I have used that for communication for years now

#

its still excessive if you just want to talk to your friends but

#

I got it for 50-70$ I cannot remember

#

many years ago and I never needed another

#

this is why I was asking about your environment

#

give it a read

hasty harbor
#

Well alway i know what to buy

#

The mic you see is 40$ now

#

Its on sale Cus its the store birthday

real edge
#

yeah 40$ for that is a good deal

#

so, based on what you read, open-back or closed back?

hasty harbor
#

I will read it later, its mostly the mic on my headset thats the problem, the Sound is still good

#

I need to read it In depth

odd sand
#

That mic looks so pretentious

hasty harbor
#

What ya mean

odd sand
#

It has the faux oldtimey look and its a huge orb. Just kinda silly heh

umbral moss
#

if we're talking about beyerdynamic, then we've gone into "cost is no object" territory

#

and I can safely recommend the audeze mobius

hasty harbor
umbral moss
#

I think hyperx actually makes the NQ version of the mobius

#

same planar magnetic driver package, but doesn't have the head tracking or 3d audio features

#

which are honestly really fucking cool because it's handled on the headset and not the PC

#

you set a reference "center" and the headset automatically shifts the sound sources so it matches the ear closest to it

#

extremely pog feature

real edge
#

its an old great

#

the blue snowball

umbral moss
#

I just got the maono PDX400

hasty harbor
#

Well Imma test the mic now

#

Gonna be fun

odd sand
#

Did you see the technology used for "evil" this week? Although also kinda funny https://twitter.com/dumingtups/status/1565310937124462593

Пишут «Яндекс.Такси» хакнули и заставили многих водил ехать на один и тот же адрес в Москве – как итог образовалась огромнейшая пробка на Кутузовском проспекте

Likes

301

▶ Play video
#

Someone hacked a taxi company and ordered all the cabs into the downtown area causing a large traffic jam heh

umbral moss
#

critical infrastructure should be designed to be as dumb as possible

#

not made by people who are as dumb as possible

umbral moss
#

they probably don't have a dispatcher

#

why spend money having a real person when you can have an algorithm do it for free pogianger

jaunty light
#

With its innovative LED door panels, the unique MoodUP delivers better food freshness and enhanced convenience and a completely new kitchen experience.

royal forge
#

LMAO

#

Green light makes it become fresher

royal forge
#

I wonder how stupid it would be, to connect to my hospital's wifi or ethernet

#

With my personal laptop

burnt swallow
#

Can having both Discord and a game open cause a game to crash?

burnt swallow
#

I'm pretty sure I don't have discord overlay on

#

You know what was on though

#

Fucking hardware acceleration for discord

#

Oh it was on

burnt swallow
#

How can I check if my GPU is using some generic ass Windows driver or if it's using the latest driver from the manufacturer

#

I do

#

AMD GPU

#

Intel CPU

#

I have that

#

So we'll see soon™️ if it was Discord overlay and hardware acceleration causing my game to crash

sly walrus
#

as overlays do

sly walrus
#

if something's in dev for a decade, you can probably stop caring abt it

odd sand
#

That's some bigbrain. Although they probably applied the logic that if you only have 2 snow tires they should go on the back wheels

sly elk
#

o_O

#

that's fwd?!

odd sand
#

So they applied the same logic to the chains

sly elk
#

some people are really oblivious to stuff like that

odd sand
#

While AWD has gotten a lot more common in vehicles these days, it's still not uncommon to find FWD only for SUVs

sly elk
#

surprisingly for once I didn't know that was a FWD vehicle lol

#

hmm that's a highlander?

#

wow those really are fwd

#

I mean

#

to be fair, "toyota suv" is probably like the least interesting car to me

#

that case is too small

#

ooh it's a game

#

I was gonna scold the shit out of you if you decided to buy one of those cases lol

#

haha

#

but that's what i mean

#

you need one of those giant oldschool caselabs cases

#

hrmm?

#

thermaltake

#

I remember those

#

hell that wasn't even that long ago

sly elk
#

meh?

jaunty light
#

its kinda pretty but then u realize its a big block of plastic with the 5th gradient they saw in photosohp applied to it

#

(cough gigabyte)

#

show us that sweet, sweet strix..

sly elk
#

one of my favorite designs is still the 1080ti ftw3

jaunty light
#

older evga cards are better than their ugly ass shit they got now

sly elk
#

it's not perfect by any means haha

#

i liked that it didn't have much plastic and the plastic looked like metal

#

don't care much for the GEFORCE GTX 1080Ti thing

#

i also think evga has never done a good looking backplate

#

their 30 series backplates are actually pretty decent for evga lol

jaunty light
#

my favorite recent design for the cards is of course strix. I like the 3000 series for overall design, but the 1000 series for backplate

sly elk
#

I think zotac and sapphire make my favorite backplates

#

the 1000 series asus cards looked good

#

tbh I was really disappointed with asus 30 series cards

jaunty light
#

"competitive salary"

sly elk
#

all that said

#

I had a 1070 strix and i loved the aesthetic but their rgb was very dim and disappointing

jaunty light
sly elk
sly elk
#

I was salty I could never get my hands on a white strix or gundam strix

jaunty light
#

I was kinda disappointed when I first saw the 3090 but then the overall design and RGB bar won me over

sly elk
#

that alone made me never want to buy asus again

jaunty light
#

I miss the strix eye backplate tho

sly elk
#

it was really really asshole-ish of them to make the color everyone wanted, as a limited edition

#

nah

#

idk what i'll go with next time i buy a gpu

#

eh? now that I replaced my psu it's been very solid

jaunty light
#

i'll just keep buying strix

#

until someone makes a card with better components

#

which is unlikely hkHappy

#

that's a you problem I don't buy strix mobos

sly elk
#

the 30 series evga, I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it. lol.

#

I had a gigabyte vision 3070 and loved it and hated it simultaneously

#

it was enough that I got rid of it

jaunty light
#

I buy the ROG ones, if I do

#

of course I've only owned one ROG but 0 problems

#

only MBs i've ever owned are gigabyte or Asus

sly elk
#

hate: gigabyte's pathetic software and the vision card has garbage for lighting accents

#

like: the card had amazing build quality and is the only 3 fan card I've owned that exhibited no flex. but it was also tiny

jaunty light
#

for me I don't care about brand, every time I buy new components I go look at what they are actually sourcing and using

sly elk
#

the worst flex I've ever experienced was probably that 1070 strix

jaunty light
#

maybe the only exception to this is I have only ever bought gskill

sly elk
#

i also really liked the build quality of my 1070ti zotac amp extreme

#

but it looked really gaudy 😄

jaunty light
#

but then zotac's like, here's a 1080 ti that is 30% larger than the other brands but runs hotter

sly elk
#

the zotac was also the only card I had that never had an issue ever

#

but i can't explain why

jaunty light
#

compooper components be funny like that

sly elk
#

but i felt like it had a 'sharpen' filter in it somehow that made the image quality look weird

#

I've never experienced that again

jaunty light
#

generally tho I've never had an issue with any of the components I've bought

sly elk
#

😄 my corsair ram was straight up defective first time around

jaunty light
#

the only thing I can really think of is my old 660 seasonic going bad, then my 8700k freezing randomly (could have alos been a motherboard issue)

#

but seeing as I delidded it, most likely CPU age

sly elk
#

also the evga 750 g3 was really unreliable with my 3080ti plugged in

#

I still don't understand that one, but whatever

jaunty light
#

i didn't really get down to why the 660 was randomly tripping either

sly elk
#

like on paper it totally should've been fine

jaunty light
#

it wouldn't happen under 100% load consistently, it'd just choose a time and go fuck this shit i'm out

sly elk
#

and it was even weirder because most of my crashing issues were at low gpu usage

jaunty light
#

it had to be under some load but I could run furmark for 5 hours

sly elk
#

YEAH!

jaunty light
#

^^^^

sly elk
#

EXACTLY

jaunty light
#

lol

sly elk
#

IT DROVE ME NUTS!

jaunty light
#

clearly, the circuits got to a certain resonance then it tripped

#

magic..

sly elk
#

absolute unit of a GPU

#

I believe it's still the biggest GPU I've ever had lol

jaunty light
#

is that a trip slot?

#

tbh looks bigger than my strix

#

maybe shorter

#

well definitely shorter but the last like 2 inches of strix isn't the pcb..

sly elk
#

pretty sure it was at least 2.5 slots

#

it was fat

#

it was very impressive taking it out of the box lol

#

the crazy part? I bought that when the 20 series came out... for 379

#

tbh I could've kept that card the entire time and been happy with its performance and had the bargain gpu of the century lol

#

my old build with the 1070 strix

jaunty light
#

i'll have a good cry when I get to sell my strix for not half, but a quarter.. maybe a fifth of its value artemi165Burger

#

I'll probably just give it to a family member for free tbh

#

they don't get the box tho that's mine

sly elk
#

lol

#

I like that evga leaves the fins exposed

#

i'm not sure why in that pic the heatsink looks like it's pulling away on the left lol

jaunty light
#

the "my intercooler needs to be hidden" gang vs the "exposed intercooler" gang

sly elk
#

but the shroud on the bottom curves out at the sides

#

I like the light bar. on or off. when it's off the 3080ti has that silver chrome look

#

when it's on it's super duper bright

#

and I like how if you make it a solid color, it kinda looks like the bar is just plastic made in that color

jaunty light
#

the one thing I like about evga designs is that all the text is RGB

#

I think? is the ftw3?

sly elk
#

interestingly the lower versions don't have the chrome when off

#

yep

jaunty light
#

it always seemed weird for me when other cards have the "GEFORCE RTX" but it's just plain ass white on black

sly elk
#

i have been very pleased with that rgb bar lol

jaunty light
#

I'd actually prefer if the strix just deleted it but I assume it's a stipulation of nvidia

#

oh but the OTHER thing that bothers me is the strix eye in the middle of the rgb bar is also not lit up

sly elk
#

i think the thing that bugs me most

#

i think they should've rgb'd the fans

jaunty light
#

my fans are RGB but, barely

#

it's just some light that shines on them

sly elk
#

yea they side-lit but I'm not even sure if that's intentional or just the light from the side bar bleeding in

#

i like the back plate

#

the shroud grew on me, even if I say i liked the 10 series better, I think the 30 series one looks great

#

especially in the white/gundam version

#

in the black/silver it's .. eh it looks good too

#

i really think it would';ve looked cool if they used the kinda fans sapphire used on their nitro se+

#

err their nitro cards have very seldomly listed plus versions where the fans are translucent and have rgb

#

can't find a press pic of the 5700/6xxx that had them but

#

also think it would've been neat if the strix had replaceable side graphics

#

like with the RGB bar

#

the gundam one would look SICK on a black strix card

#

so cool >>

#

the civic si of video cards xD

jaunty light
#

honda TYPE R

#

we have taken the cheapest model, colored the logos red, and put some fake air intakes on it

sly elk
#

mm I feel like it'd be funny to do a honda partnership

#

Strix Type R

#

-starts game- -fans start roaring- VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO

#

loool

jaunty light
#

the ASUS x REKUSASU collaboration

#

oh nooo I remember this thing

sly elk
#

that thing makes my head hurt just looking at it

jaunty light
#

I feel like I remember fucky designs like that even earlier than the 7000 series too

sly elk
#

you just reminded me of the awful noise some dell network switches make

#

and that awful sqeeeee noise

#

that's just at normal idle

#

when you turn them on they scream like a banshee

#

idk about that gpu but yea

#

it doesn't sound that bad

#

triple sli :]

#

that is a sight to behold

#

that reminds me

#

the windforce logo was cool 😦

#

I think if they had forgone that shroud and just plucked a set of fans on there it would have been awesome

#

that is one fat heatsink

#

there was that company that sells replacement heatsinks that you can bolt fans onto

#

rajintek morpheus, unfortunately it's an ugly motherfucker

#

and the people who use these have twisted sick minds and use noctua fans

#

I miss the fans from the mid 2000s

#

that was when people were really throwing stuff at the wall to see if it stuck lmao

#

we talked about the LED fans before with the text readouts

#

here's another one

#

aerocool turbine fans xD

#

When turbo charging and super charging just won't due, then it is time to TURBINE CHARGE! The AeroCool Turbine Fans move an incredible 37.44CFM of air at a mere 950rpm and an almost silent 19.66dba! The unique turbo prop style nose cone is removable so you can use the Turbine Fan in any 120mm push or pull situation. So "Turbine Charge" the air flow in your case with the AeroCool 120mm Turbine Fan!

#

admittedly that woul;d look sick on a dual tower heatsink

#

lmao remember some of the heatsink designs

#

hot damn

#

coolermaster and thermaltake also tried to get in on that jet action lmao

#

i'm in love with that asus one though

#

there was a company at the time that sold prebuilts using phase change cooling lol

#

in fact

#

if you ever wonder why a lot of full ATX cases have that 'basement'

#

it wasn't for the PSU lol

#

it was because everyone who built cases at the time thought phase change cooling was the next big thing

#

hehehe

#

they need to do it with GPUs now

#

shit ya know

#

this would be fun for a gpu company to do

#

just make a thunderbolt egpu that sits in a box with phase change

#

i'm trying to find pics of the prebuilt from the early 2000s that had it

#

it was superbly ridiculous

#

i doubt i'll find it though

#

.. found it....

#

can't find the name of the brand but someone bought an old one and tried to turn it into a modern machine

#

there was a weird company that sold these as prebuilds

#

yuea i wish i could find the name because then I could get the page from archive.org

#

lmao

#

LMAO

#

it was asetek

#

lmao it's pretty funny that one of the biggest water cooling OEMs started out making phase change cooling for PCs

#

the weird thing is the biggest water cooler company back in those days almost doesn't even exist anymore

#

Koolance 😄

#

they started out selling DIY kits where you'd use a dremel to cut the top of your case off and plop the water cooler unit in

#

then they sold the cases too

sly elk
#

this dude makes me feel i need bigger monitors

#

so much screen

#

OH COME ON

#

since when is a like $1200 monitor average

#

shiiiiiny

#

no idea how they use a magic mouse though xD

deft iris
jaunty light
# sly elk

rnt apple fans supposed to be all organic vegans

sly elk
#

Those monitors are sexy

#

Change my mind

jaunty light
#

panels maybe stands no

#

secondarily if you're using $5000 ea panels to see spotify, die!

#

what I see in this kinda image is:
haha im richer than you (maybe credit?? ttv)
laptop sucks
my headphones cost 1/100th my visual setup
i like leather for some reason
my physical notepad has 2500 pages of paper idk why
magic mousse lol
fir wood reclaimed for my stand desk

sly elk
#

Those are the 1500 dollar monitors

jaunty light
#

aw weak

sly elk
#

My 3 Alienware monitor setup cost less than one of those lmao

jaunty light
#

im confused the @ you did are the 5k panel? or

sly elk
#

? I spent less than 1500 lol

jaunty light
#

1500 on 3 wholeass monitors? smh

#

coulda spent 4500. plus another what is it, $250 each on adapters

slender jungle
#

Hi, i have a problem with my GPU clock speed won't go higher than 300MHz while playing and stuck at 30-40 FPS, very low setting. even though they are perfectly fine outside the game. i just realized this after a year playing this game, i thought this game was heavy

high temps. high util, but low clock speed. can anyone help?

lost python
#

i mean you kinda already told us the reason for your issue

#

your GPU is overheating

#

and throttling down

#

either the cooler on your gpu broke or your case is incredibly crappy at providing fresh air/good airflow or your ambient temperature is like 50°C+

deep sapphire
#

Depending on its age it’s probably just clogged with dust, specially if it’s a blower style cooler

real edge
#

dust kills more equipment than other things

#

its a lethal enemy

slender jungle
#

it's a laptop, can't do much beside cleaning and repasting which i brought to a computer cleaning provider to do that earlier today

#

and this is while i simply watching youtube. lower temp, meaningful clock speed, almost no util

hard drift
#

Elevate the back area allowing for extra air/make sure it’s on one of those fan pads

#

And are the fans actually running? Not in quiet mode or some shit

potent arrow
#

See what you do

#

Is take a Dremel and cut out the plastic under all the head sinks in your laptop

#

Then place your laptop on a fan

#

A massive

#

Box fan

#

From homeless deathspot

#

See like the laptop is in blue and fan is orange

#

Then you have an existential crysis and go buy a desktop because laptop thermals are fun.

wicked anchor
odd sand
# sly elk

Pretentious leather mouse mat plus overpriced monitors and computer hardware. What a match =X

sly elk
#

(the two normally go hand in hand though)

#

like if they have that grey felt mat

#

they tend to have an ipad or airpods case or something with the ugly brown leather case

#

oh i see

#

it's the same mat but double sided 😄

sly elk
#

i suppose these will be all over the place in CA soon ahhaha

graceful pine
#

Big EV tax breaks

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

$60 air cooler yes? 😄

upper abyss
#

kinda big question but uh
my gpu exploded a few months ago , cant afford one yet , so im playing with this cpu (Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz , i dont know much about computers but) , i play Gw2 too and i play it on full windowed , and it runs kinda smoothly. But when i do that with FF rip , so i play in 1280x720 fullscreen. Anyone who got a potato pc too got any tips for optimizing more my game ? and (probably) playing on windowed full?

paper tusk
#

performance is going to be hard limited by the integrated gpu (and overall oldness) so would suggest low settings on everything

#

16 gb ram if it doesn't have it already might help frame pacing but it's not going to be a miracle

sly elk
#

-shakes head-

#

So, My Asus USB c charging brick is leaking and it smelled burned. When I wipe it off, moments later, more liquids comes out. Also it has a small bump under the charger. Should I be concerned?

#

but it appears they're.. still using it? haha

upper abyss
#

yea this gpu is just eugh nowadays lol , should've update it when i could

sly elk
upper abyss
#

lmao tru

#

i wish i even had a woodden pretty desktop like that tho playdead

sly elk
#

i'm really digging that chair

#

i mean idk if it's any good for long periods of sitting but the cotton candy blue is pretty

#

hehehe

#

ugh downside of a mesh front PC case

#

yucky

#

man i really should buy a good air purifier

odd sand
#

That could also be they never vacuum their room and/or have pets

potent arrow
#

Or smoke

sly elk
#

yuckl

#

they should buy a case that has the intake on the bottom

zealous sluice
#

now i wanna clean out my pc

boreal surge
#

What filipino food is there that isn't so heavy, like the ones I keep hearing about are hilariously unhealthy to the point of satire

sly elk
#

lumpia dinner followed by flan dessert

#

leche flan

#

smart and final here used to sell something along the lines of that

#

heheeh random thing on my linkedin feed

#

i wonder if it's a vtuber who cosplayed themselves or something else hahaha

odd sand
#

Huh... I would have expected the 1080 to still beat it, but I guess not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgUcXLF2jUg

Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hardwareunboxed
Join us on Floatplane: https://www.floatplane.com/channel/HardwareUnboxed

Buy relevant products from Amazon, Newegg and others below:
GeForce RTX 3050 - https://geni.us/fF9YeC
GeForce RTX 3060 - https://geni.us/MQT2VG
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - https://geni.us/yqtTGn3
GeForce RTX 3070 - ...

▶ Play video
sly elk
#

that's actually reassuring

#

that the best gpu from 6 years ago is outclassed by the lowest end gpu today

#

hmm

#

it looks like the 3050 was only faster in a few cases lol

real edge
#

^

#

the 1080 is better than the 3050 still

#

doesn't surprise me with what fps numbers I get with my 1070 tbh

#

that is somehow still working fine even tho I bought it on release day

#

just a few more months for the 4070

#

hold out just for a few more months

sly elk
#

-huffs cigarette-

#

it probably will in some obscure benchmark

#

the funny thing in all this is how irrelevant the 20 series was

#

it's like nvidia does tick-tock

real edge
#

the 4070 will have 3090 performance, not better probably

sly elk
#

has that ever happened?

real edge
#

like the 980ti and the 1070

sly elk
#

there was no 1090 so did the 2070 had 1080ti performance?

real edge
#

the 2070 was worse than the 1080ti

sly elk
#

i wonder what the 4070 will cost

#

yea

real edge
#

the 1080ti was too good

sly elk
#

that's why i'm kinda thinking

#

the 40 series might not be that big a deal

royal forge
#

BUT HURRRR

#

50% THE PERFORMANCE

sly elk
#

if I were running nvidia i'd save the good shit for later

royal forge
#

50%MORE PERFORMA CE

#

THE SCORE IS TOTALLY VERY HIGH

#

I say that, knowin im gettin a 4000 card

#

Because my laptop just fuckin black screened while mid writing my notes

sly elk
#

naw that's an amd thing to do xD