....trying to find my kicad files for how im injecting voltage
#technology-discussion
sly elk
-stares-
wut
oh haha
yea I dump mine into one of two folders
but stuff still piles up because i don't do that that often
odd sand
Wide monitor is wide
potent arrow
Im thinking about another one on the side for discord
probally a laptop screen adapted to hdmi
royal forge
Get one of em "scorpion gamer chairs"
The stupidly huge one that looks like a tripping hazard
stark mulch
Hi. Has anyone here experienced 401 or i2501 errors from the square enix online store before? I wanted to see if anyone here has experience talking to support on the phone.
sly walrus
steam issue
modest moss
only steam users reporting issues
modest nest
same happens to me, should be able to enter the game using ffxivboot.exe, however this file is not in my computer somehow
deep sapphire
Me when I got to target at 9PM
sly elk
ha
According to the Journal, Apple and Facebook were considering a a subscription service that would offer an ad-free version of the platform. And since Apple takes a cut of in-app purchases, including subscriptions, it could have been a very lucrative arrangement indeed.
jaunty light
Ad free version of what 
dull garnet
The facebook app, one would assume
I use fb messenger unfortunately but I haven't had the main app installed for as long as I can remember
hollow hamlet
dull garnet
peak performance
royal forge
My friend cant understand why our clunker of a dell is lagging and slow while he has 15 chrome tabs open
dull garnet
did you suggest downloading more ram
umbral moss
I can't even use my desktop at work because the one in my cube has 4GB of RAM
my phone has more RAM than that piece of shit
it's legitimately a 20 minute exercise to get to the desktop when I unlock it
dull garnet
my phone and tablet both have 8gb 
dull garnet
the power of arm
umbral moss
I think this installation of windows is just shot, 4GB was standard when this PC was new
I remember having a problem a year or two back where windows was storing every fucking update cab file on the hard drive instead of purging them after installing an update
dull garnet
4gb should be alright, i suppose it has a hdd? windows kinda took a dump on hdd performance about a year ago
umbral moss
so the drive would have 0% free after a while, and it was all just trash cab files from waud
the real problem is that it's fucking windows 7 and doesn't meet our network security requirements
but the company is too cheap to buy a modernized replacement that does
so here it sits, a nice EOL product that hasn't gotten an update in like 6 years exposed to the internet
dull garnet
oh wow
royal forge
did you suggest downloading more ram
I DID try explaining
But
Its hard to demonstrate when task manager is locked behind an admin password
umbral moss
I complained about the fact it takes almost an hour to update my weekly work log in excel for six months straight
an excel sheet that has literally no calculations in it, just some cells with color fill so I can track what got worked on when
inland mauve
what the FUCK is your IT doing
WHY is there still a Windows 7 machine in your domain
umbral moss
because the company is extraordinarily cheap lmao
why spend $1500 when you can, you know, not
inland mauve
do they have locks on their doors?
umbral moss
also, there is no dedicated IT team, it's literally one guy who's also in charge of inventory
inland mauve
an alarm system in the office?
why even bother with any of those, they only cost money after all
umbral moss
why even bother with any of those, they only cost money after all
yeah, why spend it on the business when you can buy a third tesla for one of your kids
inland mauve
you're going to get hacked sooner or later and it's going to be in a profoundly stupid way that didn't even require anything advanced
umbral moss
I mean, they force upgraded all the w10 machines to 11 because of the printspool exploit lmao
and then there's these windows 7 machines still languishing in active service
inland mauve
which, let me guess, still have the PrintNightmare vulnerability?
umbral moss
likely
inland mauve
did you guys take any actions against DogWalk? that's the newest high profile zero day
inland mauve
in 2020
inland mauve
you can run an old OS fine if you take the necessary precautions
airgapping is the best one
at the very least you should have it in a separate network that is isolated from everything else
especially the internet
umbral moss
it's usually some HMI device, yeah
since those things are a huge pain in the ass to retrofit
I was at a customer site in june where they had recently spent $30k to upgrade the PCs on their laser cutters to win7
which is the furthest forward the vendor was able to upgrade the hardware to
they used to be winXP machines
dull garnet
XP is soul
paper tusk
win7 stopped getting updates in what, 2017?
Win7 was updated for security roundup recently
Have to use a patch to enable its use unless you pay up for extended updates
(and update the service stack)
umbral moss
pay for updates
I don't think you realize that my company won't pay for a stick of gum
let alone LTS
paper tusk
Sounds about right
umbral moss
people are already pulling their rigs offline because of the merge
there's a big wave of "gently used" 3080s coming to the market
modest moss
I'll pass on used tech
modest moss
I'd buy like a used mobo for an older pc though because it's impossible to get new sometimes
sharp star
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1559178674993147904 if anyone doesn't have one of these yet
dull garnet
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1559178674993147904 if anyone doesn't have on...
i have bought every single part of a pc used
y'all cowards
unfortunate
TN 
not holding it against you :p
i'd rather 60hz ips
umbral moss
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1559178674993147904 if anyone doesn't have on...
is this any good?
sharp star
is this any good?
I heard plenty of good things about it
dull garnet
for the money yes
but really you need to spend about $1000 to get a truly good monitor
umbral moss
is it better than the XB271?
the XB271 is usually $499 and can be had at $399 sometimes without black friday deals
umbral moss
but really you need to spend about $1000 to get a truly good monitor
apple fan spotted
4k/144 is the only thing that's in that price bracket
dull garnet
no i just know what i'm talking about
also find me an apple monitor for 1000 or less
umbral moss
no i just know what i'm talking about
what's a $1000 monitor that has VRR and good color repro?
or is this like, "I only use studio reference monitors"
dull garnet
anything that actually has 1000 nits of brightness for one
sharp star
I have an XB271HU but I swapped it out for a Gigabyte M27Q
dull garnet
these $300 do 400 tops
sharp star
It's similar
umbral moss
for all zero times I leave my monitor at full fuckbright mode anyway
sharp star
G-Sync modules really mean jack shit unless you want VRR from 1-whatever Hz
umbral moss
I'm not even saturating 1440/144 with my setup so why kill myself for a 1440/165
or 4k/144
dull garnet
does anyone really saturate their hw often. not saying these lower end monitors are bad but you get what you pay for
umbral moss
I mean, I prioritize color gamut over refresh rate but it's nice to have the lower frame time in the absence of based CRT response times
brightness is one of the things I value least since I don't run them at full backlight anyway
dull garnet
i don't think anyone does besides in hdr scenarios. i can't say i really see the benefits of hdr going by my tv
umbral moss
yeah
HDR is like 3d monitor tech
it's the New Hotness but nothing is mastered with it in mind so it's a gimmick at most
don't want sunglasses to play video games
modest moss
Sometimes you have no choice
royal forge
YT Vanced on android has this nifty skip feature
dull garnet
vanced is dead bros
royal forge
Does anypne know if there is a firefox equivalent?
Well, it does the job for me tbh
Beats the default YT app
dull garnet
damn you can get 2500K for £10 now
umbral moss
to do what with? make a keychain?
modest moss
2500k is still pretty capable
dull garnet
shue dream build
dull garnet
tfw no gamer dad
royal forge
My friend has a ?2 year old?
He jokingly me told me that he was debating setting up a second xic account and havin his kid be the pocket healer
dull garnet
bit young to heatslut
modest moss
Could train a 12 yo maybe
modest moss
2 year olds can't do anything lol
royal forge
He likes to button mash so my friend let him use his old keyboard
royal forge
2 year olds can't do anything lol
Ye. Das why i said jokingly
dull garnet
get em a sega pico
umbral moss
2 year olds can't do anything lol
they could absolutely manage to be a better healer than most people in duty finder
at least toddlers will press a button more than once
slender arch
bit young to heatslut
Maybe if they start Young they won't be as bad when they 18.
hard drift
i mean i would fucking hope so lol, the part came out in 2011 vs ryzen
stark mulch
I see why ppl don't like FF14's Phone support lol. you are on hold for a very very long time even if you call right when the line opens lol.
ABK?
oh lol
well at least their store works unlike ff14's
tried to buy something 2 days ago, got 401 error, tried 2 more times now have i2051 error. So....thx ff14 now I have no idea if my sub will effected or not lol.
literally on the card select screen it bugged out and threw the 401 error. Making it feel like its their system.
umbral moss
we don't evaluate ($account.issue) and the ($punishment) remains in effect
ticket closed
poggin
dull garnet
that isn't even true
you can push 4GHz on a 2500K on a 212 evo
oh yeah I was considering overclocked
le fx9590
modest moss
you can push 4GHz on a 2500K on a 212 evo
mine is 4.2 and could go higher
dull garnet
when i first went ryzen i went from a 2700K to a R5 2600 and got the same score in the ffxiv bench
jaunty light
frank sierra
is this deal even all that great?
basically, am I correct in thinking a 105 wattage 3070 TI (I believe standard is 150W) isn't significantly better than my current 3070 (no ti) laptop?
modest moss
yeah it's not worth 'upgrading' from 3070 to 3070ti
frank sierra
yeah it's not worth 'upgrading' from 3070 to 3070ti
and the monitor isn't great correct?
frank sierra
how is 60 hz for gaming these days
frank sierra
but I wouldn't personally want to go 4k with a 3070ti anyway
why is that
frank sierra
3070ti isn't really powerful enough for 4k gaming
what would you need at minimum for 4k?
dull garnet
hey you could play fortnite and also other 5+ year old games at 4k on a 3070 ti!
frank sierra
what's the rest of your 3070 setup?
this is the model:
so a 3080 is more powerful than a 3070 ti?
dull garnet
laptop
cooling
modest moss
yeah I wouldn't upgrade to that, it's not a ton better
frank sierra
yeah I wouldn't upgrade to that, it's not a ton better
also the wattage on the current gpu is 130W
versus 105W for the ti
dull garnet
$9000 4090 Ti - Icehunter edition
umbral moss
yeah
the icehunter model will be $12000 for the titan
the 20 series was priced with the 2080 occupying the titan slot from the 10 series
because they had a shitload of extra 10 series cards from the first great crypto crash
more that nvidia doesn't reset price brackets every generation
they have a ton of used 30 series cards hitting the market so they have 0% interest in releasing new cards that compete with them in price
so it'll be 3090 prices for the 4080 series
all the POW copium going around saying they'll fork eth and stick with POW rigs
like anyone will use those chains
expensive and totally unnecessary
yeah, why wouldn't nvidia price the titan right below the tesla product
they don't want people to buy the cheaper prosumer stuff at a huge discount compared to the enterprise/scientific product
that's why they brought the titan price from $800 to $1300 with the titan xp-2
sharp star
umbral moss
that sounds like a way to jam more compute in there
umbral moss
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7950x-7900x-7700x-and-7600x-zen4-processor...
$892 😩
ship me one
devout nexus
ingram fucked up
they are pulling it, was not even supposed tob elisted
true that
umbral moss
I'm a little south of canada
devout nexus
ah
umbral moss
I forgot canada has wild anti-international trade policies
getting into canada is like applying to the god damned CIA
L3 cache for GPUs makes sense
that's what they plan on doing with zen 4 too
the XDDD versions are coming next year for intel's next launch window
don't need to make a new chip if you can increase performance a few % just bumping the cache size
GPU memory demands are too high for that size cache
nice big 180x180 die
microSD controllers
you could write the data out on a piece of paper faster
modest moss
Ice buy me a steamdeck
potent arrow
That seems like a Terrible screen experience lol
dull garnet
i used to watch ncix videos. wasn't really into pc stuff at the time though. everything seemed very hot and not so good lol
sly elk
lol
icy summit
Well, u can probably open 4 different tabs a the same time ... (Or more)
sly elk
at least you don't use i,j,k
umbral moss
at least you don't use i,j,k
what's wrong with ijk notation for vector space?
sly elk
nothing
boreal surge
Yeah ijk notation for loops is archaic stuff
And also not descriptive.
Well the first thing that comes to mind looking at that is does react not have range/iterator based for loops?
🤦♂️
Noted
*facepalm was for the engineer who did not know what his loop did
sly elk
in python i'm not in love with range loops
because you can't fuck with the increment of your iterator lol
and yea javascript has foreach iirc
often the shortcuts make things harder to read
glares at list comprehensions
boreal surge
That’s a good explanation. It’s just that so far I’ve seen that for each(or variants of) is the hotness in Hack/C++
Iirc it was single threaded no?
You can tell I’m basically a C++ dev who’s never been forced to look at perf 
But what you’re describing sounds like the fork join model of multithreading, except hidden under the guise of being async
But also haven’t touched actual thread management since, other C++ hotness is coroutines go brrr. Which is async and I haven’t bothered looking into the actual implementation
sly elk
brrrr
boreal surge
I have a coworker exploring C++ now, right now her main gotchas are the typing and the bad documentation for not STL things.
And style.
sly elk
my favorite thing about C++ is that it doesn't matter if you just started using it yesterday, or you've been using it for 5 years: You're an idiot that doesn't know how half of it works 😄
boreal surge
Another thing about C++ performance: unless you’re hyperoptimizing it’s basically fuck it compiler will do it’s thing
Well we got std::shared_ptr and std::unique_ptr now tho
Still does nothing for threading synchronization
Someone once told me that java’s insistence on everything being an object made some inheritance shenanigans hell
lethal dune
I have a tech question, how much data does FFXIV use?
I am going somewhere with limited data, and I need to know how much data does FFXIV use. I've heard they use something like 15 - 20mb per hour but that's a report from 6 years ago.
sly elk
security team: We realized that keyboards are a serious security risk. People can use them to type malicious code. From now on you can only interact with your computer via the mouse. Thank you.
Also security: We've disabled usb and bluetooth to make sure you don't violate our access control policy.
odd sand
My last govt contract job they hired an admin for some system then didn't give them admin privs. "They don't need that to do their job"
jaunty light
They just need to look at it
odd sand
And it wasn't even someone from that dept or from an upper manager making that call even, it was someone in a tangentially related dept that for some reason was given purview over that sort of thing
It's the same mentality behind my HS cancelling a C++ class bc "They might learn how to hack the network"
sly elk
yea, like, to be totally fair
you can be stupidly thorough with security and monitoring and not impede programmers' workflow
if you have people who are programmers AND security experts in charge of the security stuff
but those people are expensive AF, hard to come by, and it still takes longer to do things "the right way"
and the reason these security people earn a bad rep is they're brought into a small company that was "moving fast and breaking things" and give the devs the same policy they give the glue eaters that poke at their computer all day trying to install that'free music streaming' crap on their work computer and use it to browse porn and shit
and even then there's limitations
worn pond
i logged in to find my entire menu just... being lowered down a couple pixels?
my entire hud has lowered downwards by a couple centimeters on it's own
Nevermind I just swapped display mode from borderless to full screen then back to borderless
no idea what caused the issue in the first place tho
sly elk
yay 😦 no idea either
inland mauve
I think you guys missed the point of this comic?
it's not about locking down every access possible, it's about not putting proper procedures in place to make sure that people can quickly get the permissions they need
it's a part of corporate IT that everyone, including IT, often forgets about because next to the technical implementation of making such requests it also has major procedural and organizational aspects to it
sly elk
depending on the person and stuff, the fact they had to ask for it in the first place means it wasn't well done
inland mauve
that's wrong
sly elk
it reeks of
"we just rolled out a new security policy!"
-entire software team gets blocked-
inland mauve
you cannot possibly expect IT to know exactly which types of access every person in a big company needs
you can do a lot of ground work to minimize the pain
sly elk
but why bother?
inland mauve
but you're always going to miss something somewhere
sly elk
when you're locked up in the ivory tower .. errr. basement room
fuck the users
just impose invasive security policy
and then give a 1hr training about insider threats
odd sand
Having an automated process for making sure ppl can get access quickly also takes time and money to implement and we all know companies hate spending on IT most of the time
inland mauve
why bother with a firewall? it just gets in the way of rolling out third party products that need access to their cloud
sly elk
red: why not frisk everyone when they leave to make sure they're not stealing company property?
hell, randomly search employees' cars
can't be too safe
inland mauve
oh, training is the problem! yeah that's it, we've never trained our users not to open suspicious files that are sent with emails! man, if only we had thought of that
sly elk
oh right
outlook safe links
perfect solution
obfuscate all the links so nobody knows what's actually sus
odd sand
Thanks MS Safelinks!
sly elk
ye you['re right let's just lock everyone down
odd sand
Also major companies using link shortener domains, but not acknowledging the existence of them ANYWHERE on the main website and using private domain reg info so you can't tell who owns it
deep obsidian
lads im going to kill someone
dull garnet
In Polish
deep obsidian
yes i will kill em in polish
but you can get the idea what that is
this pc is on for 91 days
royal forge
My friend thinks im being paranoid for not logging into my personal stuff on the office pc
Which runs on a local network before it connects to the internet
"Is it really that dangerous?"
As people log into their bank account on work pcs
deep obsidian
we can tell what sites you use, we can see your screen whenever we want without you knowing
we can see what pngs you open on 4chan
deep obsidian
or more sophisticated shit
royal forge
I doubt they have it
They run cc cleaner when we bitch about the lag
OH
And my friend has 10 tabs on chrome and complains its laggy
My brother in christ, ur the one killing what is probably 2GB of RAM
deep obsidian
jesus
royal forge
I dunnoe the pc specs
Im too exasperated
People just jacking into the local network via ethernet and dont get why i get worried
"Who would wanna hack us?"
deep obsidian
too bad he was tech illiterate
royal forge
I can confidently tell you
As a doctor
There are some of us that are exceptionally talented at their job
Shit at everything else
Talkin about getting into crypto and NFTs
deep obsidian
i work in this hospital for a year and yeah i can tell
royal forge
Like
Holy fuckin shit
U didnt miss the train
You missed the entire fucking railway
I can assure u
It was extra hilarious at my old hosp
You had to login with ur windows account to be able to access the internet
So
deep obsidian
lord
deep obsidian
royal forge
Like jaysus christ
deep obsidian
i get a lot of porn sites blocked mails from surgery and internal
royal forge
i get a lot of porn sites blocked mails from surgery and internal
Studying anatomy 
I cant recognize an asshole until i see it up close
Ah well
Its.. kinda adorable
Everyone was so shook that you can build ur own pc
"Why would you?"
As they use their laptop with an i7 and a 1050 or smthng stupid
deep obsidian
when they find out i can build pcs they were shoked cause people were used to swapping the whole cans
i just swap out components
but alas
now i build pcs for their kids
royal forge
I need recommendation for a new YT app
Android
And any good YT add-ons for firefox
Anyone got recommendations?
I've already got ublock and hyperchat
vestal crane
Vanced
dull garnet
depreciated
royal forge
Vanced
I have it already, but apparently its sorta ?abandoned? according to @dull garnet
I never got a proper explanation why
dull garnet
because youtube said no
looks like there might be an "unofficial" version now
https://twitter.com/YTVanced/status/1503052250268286980?s=20&t=eLPXOB1kWbQhZMnGUdP4YQ
old versions will still work for another year or so but yeah
Twitter
vestal crane
Its still getting updated
Basically some people co-opted the update server and have continued work on it
potent arrow
I'm basically thinking about upgrading my fcs leader set up to something better
He's playing on a fucking laptop rn
And it's like SLOW
So I'm scrounging around trying to see what I can do
I do have 1650s around the house but I don't necessarily want to use them for his PC
Probably going to use some of the ram Corsair sent me and maybe some alder lake samples I was using, so my budget for GPUs are blown already lol
also want to cut down on weight to save on shipping so it'll be a lil curse case I have from Silverstone
dull garnet
i kind of admire people using trash hw
potent arrow
i kind of admire people using trash hw
80% of hardware is still useful. I like to get decent "trash" hw and build people who need computers for word and shit who need it
Same for laptops, I refurb and give it to students and atuff
dull garnet
umbral moss
honda apparently working on a "specialty" EV sports car and a "halo" EV sports car
likely something similar to the S2000 and NSX
not designed by GM, which should be interesting
hard drift
umbral moss
dull garnet
hard drift
<:playdead:593162355274285075>
Soon ™️
umbral moss
Soon ™️
I can't afford a new PC right now
guess it'll be good to let people beta test the new chipset for me
hard drift
guess it'll be good to let people beta test the new chipset for me <:haha:240841...
Exactly
umbral moss
I'm sure the first wave of X670 boards are going to be dookie anyway
always weird bugs and incomplete firmware
hard drift
always weird bugs and incomplete firmware
sad but true especially depending on who you buy from 
umbral moss
I mean, it's a new chipset, socket, and RAM compatibility requirement
I don't imagine any of the X670 stuff in the launch wave will be good
member when DDR4 gen 1 intel products were just fucked and you had to play games with QVLs finding dimms that worked?
hard drift
soon? they already are
umbral moss
why would I want a mining GPU with 100% uptime
also, I have a perfectly fine 10 series GPU that can last until the 40 series drops
dull garnet
Gamers...
inland mauve
to use less energy per hash?
odd sand
Yes bc at the end of the day, electricity is the largest expense in a mining operation
That's the biggest reason so many folded up and sold their cards recently: It costs more power than the value of the token in a lot of places atm
inland mauve
I knew the price of energy is the deciding factor
but I didn't think about how it would be more efficient to run your mining rig at half its full capacity
if you think about it like that, even though they're running 24/7 they're at least doing so in a life extending mode
like how you can configure your laptop to treat its battery in a way that doesn't optimize its charge time but does increase its overall lifespan before it dies
umbral moss
switching losses are also scaled with frequency
dull garnet
I was running my 3060 Ti at around 120w with a 20% memory oc and getting 60MH/s
Card paid for itself 
odd sand
but I didn't think about how it would be more efficient to run your mining rig a...
I dunno if its exactly half, but it is some percentage lower, yes. Maybe even 25-30% instead of 50%
I think the 30 series are probably decent if for no other reason than they were only mined on for a year or less. Hard to really burn out cards in that timeframe unless they were complete idiots.
dull garnet
You're basically only using ram with eth so
GPU clock doesn't matter
My card was undervolted (0.9v) and still easily got +1000MHz out of the memory. Saw some people trying 1200 or so but it didn't seem worth
Must not live in the uk
Or europe
I set my power limit at like 60% lol
Bye bye gpu frequency
umbral moss
The problem was already solved, but Ford has taken good and fast buttons and replaced them with a slow and distracting touch interface that is fancy for the sake of being fancy.
based design, why have simple controls that work when you can have shitty obnoxious ones that don't
quartz abyss
Anybody into like stream setup/audio video stuff? I’m trying to figure out a decent yet inexpensive way to rig a two room studio and my brain is fried. Just wanted to bounce ideas.
sly elk
based design, why have simple controls that work when you can have shitty obnoxi...
the pro version has the normal dashboard?
idk if you can order the regular version without that stupid screen
hehe i love this
modest moss
@tame fulcrum did you order my steamdeck yet?
of course I'm joking
you couldn't order me one anyway, you don't know my name or address
Shue
UK
that's not gonna arrive
dull garnet
oof that non white motherboard 
modest moss
speedy how much do you like your pixel 6
dull garnet
it is good
modest moss
dull garnet
for an android phone
modest moss
I'm paying £6.50/month already, so that's £150 over the 2 year contract
means I'd get phone and chromebook for like £420
kinda tempting
dull garnet
e-waste chromebook lets goooo
modest moss
I could use it for shitposting on discord without turning on this stupid i7
modest moss
true, but I'm not a fan of shitposting from phone
dull garnet
best done on the toilet
what i will say however is
there is talk of this "green" screen effect at times, and I must admit I think I see it when using the settings menu in dark mode sometimes, manifests as a slight flicker that doesn't look quite right. but this may have been ironed out as production has continued and my case seems nowhere near as bad as what i've seen from other people on the web
the task switcher often gets slightly bugged. that one is minor but it is something i wish they would fix
aside from that no real issues with it, camera is pretty good and the ai is fun. i feel like you may be able to do better for the money but you'd probably be making a few compromises
suggest you get the official pixel charger or a third party equivalent so you can take advantage of the fast charging the provided usb-c -> usb-c cable that is provided with the phone, it doesn't have a power adapter in the box. it also isn't provided with a usb-c to 3.5mm adapter although amazon sells these for a fiver. likely worth investing in a decent case too. i have the spigen tough armour on mine in addition to a glass screen protector
dull garnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALgNXyoFWBQ kinda like this, but it seems as if the screen and shutter mismatch makes it seem worse
devout nexus
i hate my pixel 6 >.>
i put it on a flat book and it somehow slid off and spilled water all over the place
dull garnet
so you could limit to 75W and it would get you 90% of the way there in games
modest moss
yeah only look at cinebench and rendering and game dev
in fact everything below those too
dull garnet
yeah but gaming
hard drift
limit it to 100w at 4k and you only lose 1% roughly
modest moss
fucking gaming, I just want to feel good about my 12700k
dull garnet
don't you feel energised every time you turn on your PC knowing that you purchased a new Intel product?
hard drift
so 100w is the sweetspot for ppw on 12900k 🤔
modest moss
I do, I should put my intel and nvidia stickers on my case
hard drift
100w is still way more than 100w for 12900k limiting 😔
hard drift
hard drift
i know but it's not like they tell you everything it's setup with
yeah but that's not everything still
and their photos of their system setup are shit
fan profiles and everything
hard drift
you don't know if they're running a profile or anything for the coolers
boreal surge
I don’t really sticker any of my laptops
Only one on my work is the faded label they used to provision the device to me
dull garnet
oop
boreal surge
Most people in Tech sticker their macbooks tho
I’m surprised the macbook designers aren’t rolling in their graves
dull garnet
no i mean like, case badges
why yes I did buy an AMD processor
hearing obliterated
sly elk
Most people in Tech sticker their macbooks tho
the stickers are too expensive os i never bothered
boreal surge
I did not mention anything about paying for said stickers 
dull garnet
you can actually buy books that are just full of stickers for stickerbombing, much more cost effective
sly elk
there's also free stickers from trade shows and stuff
but sticker bombing with corporate stickers is mehhh
hmm if you want to do that to a work laptop i'd suggest covering the cover in a skin first
interestingly there are vinyl skins that already look sticker bombed XD
potent arrow
lol my laptop used to be sticker bombed
But because of work I stripped it
Now it's just a plain black thinkpad
dull garnet
i recently removed to stickers from my thinkpad cus i'm selling it, although it was hardly bombed
pita to get the residue off
boreal surge
Yeah it’s normally corpo/tech con stickers
potent arrow
i recently removed to stickers from my thinkpad cus i'm selling it, although it ...
I have a secret to that
WD-40
:3
Gets rid of the residue pretty easily
dull garnet
i used to use wd40 on my ps3 cases
mostly use ipa for game cases now. in the end i used ipa, then soapy water and then wd40
dull garnet
wd40 left the cases kinda oily
sly elk
lol
dull garnet
wonder if i have pics...
dull garnet
what in the fuck is this
lol
discarded
4890 + Q6600 in the PC above
could still max skyrim despite its age. card cost <£100 a few years down the line
what're those
ohhh lol
hope you held your eth! 🤪
those cards look pretty gnarly
so you had dual 1080 ti and a i7 960
ohhh
stark mulch
Is this super small black dot a dead pixel? I tried wiping it off but nothing.
stark mulch
Nope had it since Christmas
dull garnet
aww yis
inland orchid
As far as budget friendly gaming laptops go, is the MSI GF63 a good one?
modest moss
got a link to the one you're looking at? it looks like they do different versions
inland orchid
deep sapphire
I would avoid that laptop
The 1650 is fairly old by this point and it wasn’t very fast when it debuted
Find something with a 3060 or better if it’s within your budget
modest moss
yeah it's not great, what's your budget Honey?
inland orchid
$700 or under 👀💧
deep sapphire
700 dollars won’t get you a good gaming experience unfortunately
inland orchid
Yeah I know, I don't really need anything too good, I just want to be able to run basic games
deep sapphire
IMO you’d be better off buying a console and some games at that price point
dull garnet
A PS2 and a copy of Gran Turismo 3
deep sapphire
1200 bucks is pretty much the bare minimum you want to reach for an acceptable gaming experience that will have some longevity
inland orchid
I do have a ps4 and Xbox, but I'd like to be able to play with my bf cause he only has a computer
Plus I like browser games lol
deep sapphire
What games in particular were you wanting to play
inland orchid
Stuff like Stardew Valley and Don't Starve and hopefully Civ 6
Maybe Skyrim and FFXIV too but I won't get greedy lol
deep sapphire
It’d run those games fine, as long as your standards are fine with lower settings or frame rates and don’t expect much longevity in it
Maybe check some deals and find something that has more modern specs
inland orchid
Okay for sure, thank you
deep sapphire
No problem
dull garnet
Cool discord mobile updated and now it is horrible
inland orchid
Do you have suggestions for laptops under $1500 then?
modest moss
1500 is a good budget
deep sapphire
You could find a good gaming notebook for around that. I would avoid MSI though they aren’t well made
If you find something you look, find it on Amazon and check reviews
inland orchid
Ohh okay, thanks again guys!! 
deep sapphire
No problem
deep sapphire
Cool discord mobile updated and now it is horrible
modest moss
Ohh okay, thanks again guys!! <:ElezenInLove:661320113366106133>
something like this for 999 would probably be decent for you https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-G5-KD-i5-11400H-KD-52US123SO/dp/B09QPT6TZJ/
sly elk
it's missing the gun lol
sharp star
modest moss
https://youtu.be/G38vEEGbkWU
24 minutes to test a cooler
sharp star
The Hyper 212 was the Reddit air cooler at the time so I think it was fun to see how it holds up today
obviously it doesn’t but if you’re expecting validation on the Hyper 212 then you won’t get it
boreal surge
24 minutes to test a cooler
More like even a video to test a cooler, you can keep it to a scientific paper with DOI numbers and the whole shebang
sharp star
yeah they have special paper for pressure mounting testing
odd sand
obviously it doesn’t but if you’re expecting validation on the Hyper 212 then yo...
If you have something that's still like 75-95w it should be fine, but yeah if you have a modern 125w then hell no
sharp star
yeah
the cooler is fine, acceptable even
it’s just that the mounting mechanism and the fan are pretty eh
odd sand
Probably bc of that whole "It says 125W TDP but max demands are 350W" issue heh
jaunty light
Probably bc of that whole "It says 125W TDP but max demands are 350W" issue heh
bulldozer noises
dull garnet
That U12S seems to have poor performance for the money lol
dull garnet
24 minutes to test a cooler
24 minutes is brief for GN lol
modest moss
Yeah that's why I don't watch them... their content can be interesting it just drags on
latent grotto
Could just skip to the charts if you dont wanna watch i guess
umbral moss
project farm is like that sometimes too
the guy's thorough but I don't need to actually see every bolt get torqued to 122 in-lb
just give me the results man
get a new non-latching switch then
modest moss
or just use the computer instead of looking at it
dull garnet
don't be stoopid
okay i need to undervolt my 3060 ti again, pretty loud with ff14 open
modest moss
just put headphones on and drown it out
dull garnet
no
dull garnet
feel like i'm doing it wrong, must be an easier way
potent arrow
Ooooooo
IM GETTING A NEW CASE
(I have the old one)
Yes
You could do a loop in the old one too
It's my favorite case ever. And now it has a sequel
It would
I've put a 3090 in my old one lol
Inside.
I mean
You under estimate the sff community 
This is FE
Anyways, with the new revision...I I might have an excuse to finnally figure out a threadripper sff
Funny enough it's the motherboard that'll be the issue
Yep.
dull garnet
gottem
umbral moss
zen 4 announcement, followed by intel announcing the 12900KXXX
now with 450W TDP and 650W total chip power
sharp star
Twitter
agile roost
wicked anchor
as long as people keep paying 1k for a new phone annually they'll keep releasing them
cant disagree with the grind
deep sapphire
well when you get 70-80 percent value on trade in every year its almost a no brainer
boreal surge
Still using my 8 
Work phone 11 does not offer me anything outside of bigger screen and unfucked battery
dull garnet
Still using my 8 <:honk:629468829201858601>
still a few years in that, hank is right though
boreal surge
Oh right and indonesia has some imei registration bullshittery now
dull garnet
look at this busted ass last season waifu
not for you
yofukashi no uta
oh your wall is your lie in april
le anime girl dies
golden time lady has orange hair
i did too but i was mad because it was so obviously gonna happen
i recently cried rewatching made in abyss too lmao
dull garnet
did you watch mushoku tensei
late basalt
Ngl, looks fake as shit
sly elk
iosn't that already a thing?
late basalt
Top down shot on a small scale ? Definitely hiding the dude playin with a magnet underneath
sly elk
could do it the way webex does 👿
-shares 500x500 window from a 1920x1080 screen- -everyone sees a 1920x1080 empty screen with a 500x500 window on it-
or rather, webex used to do this**
it was so dumb it annoyed me XD
jaunty light
-shares 500x500 window from a 1920x1080 screen- -everyone sees a 1920x1080 empty...
Share my 8k with 256px box
Cant read it?
sly elk
-reads mac pro rumor thingy discussing the potential specs-
i wonder if this is where they bring back the trashcan form factor
sly elk
https://tenor.com/view/marin-marin-kitagawa-tambourine-tambourine-club-sono-bisque-doll-gif-24542521
inland mauve
tacit maple
hey
is it possible to use iphone as keyboard on ps5?
to write in the chat, because the pad is too slow
deep obsidian
get a cheap wireless keyboard
tacit maple
ok thanks
tacit maple
thank u
umbral moss
¯_(ツ)_/¯
the only cool thing about it is that it has a performance mode
you can turn on the electric motor for maximum torque instead of economy and knock a full second off your 0-60
although one is still left with the question of why you need an SUV that's capable of hitting 100 km/h in 5 seconds
speed is in direct opposition of safety lmao
especially sudden bursts of it
turn on performance mode and just plow into the car in front of you in stop and go traffic
speaking of safety, I love how the FCC took away the spectrum that had been allocated for V2V because they called the auto companies on their bluff that they needed it for wireless communication
straight up said to them "we don't believe you're developing this technology at all" and took away their license for that part of the spectrum
umbral moss
yeah, squares are always memory errors, usually out of tolerance frequency
well, the problem is that frequency errors usually become more pronounced with temperature
so it depends on what temperature the PCB and the chips are
as well as the drive voltage
I mean, anyone can buy an ez bake oven
it's fine, they're japanese and rated to 105C
modest moss
where's the fucking custard
can't have spotted dick without custard
oh you actually made that first one?
looks decent
did she teach you to steal the ingredients?
dull garnet
oh my god lol
are you cursed
"meme"
2011 though
that was my 8800 GTX, back when the solder was messed up and basically everything failed. mobile video, xbox 360
modest moss
baking xbox 360s was a thing for a bit
dull garnet
this was more of a temp fix, got me from having no display out to having one though. worked fine until i sourced a new gpu and sold it too
dull garnet
baking xbox 360s was a thing for a bit
the ol wrap in a towel trick too
I would be surprised if that ever worked
dull garnet
had to deal with an rma on my kid brother's halo 3 console
i was still merrily enjoying PS2 ||and PC||
odd sand
Because of the Gen1 defects the 360 never turned a profit
They had a several billion dollar writedown fixing or replacing them all
umbral moss
not exactly, just that sony's recipe is to do exactly that and they've been very successful with that strategy
it started with the PS2 having a DVD player in it, and the memery of FIVE HUNDRED AND NINTY NINE DOLLARS made sure blu-ray got to as many households as possible
nintendo doesn't normally sell consoles at a loss, which is why they tend to be lower powered
odd sand
That's not really the case anymore. Neither the PS5 nor the Series X/S are sold at a loss
The bill of sale for the PS5 was like $440 or something
umbral moss
you don't need to lose money on consoles unless you're doing something very specific that will net you big gains down the road
sony being the major sponsor of blu-ray, for example
odd sand
It's because using it as a loss-leader didn't make them profit. Neither Sony nor MS turned a profit on the 360/PS3 era bc they took too many losses on the hardware
umbral moss
for like three years lmao
the fact that the PS3 needed blue laser diodes is why there's so many fuckin super bright blue LEDs now
odd sand
Bluray player pricing was just bullshit is why. When DVD released, they cost what? $300 or so?
People were buying a PS2 as a DVD player and that was like $249 or 299 was it?
umbral moss
Bluray player pricing was just bullshit is why. When DVD released, they cost wha...
blue laser diodes were rare and very expensive
like, I remember seeing a breakdown of the PS3's BOM and the blu-ray diode was like $120-130
it was a huge part of why the thing was so expensive
sharp star
they also shoved an entire PS2 into the PS3
odd sand
Well they ramped production quick then bc I was given a free BD player when I bought my 1080p TV in like 2008/9 and I think the cost of that player was only like $50-70 as it is
Yeah the 360 had a ton of model iterations
I think the original 360 was on 180nm and the final was 65nm...
umbral moss
Dodge says it’s trying to address this gap through the introduction of new features, like the eRupt electro-mechanical shifting. This feature “delivers distinctive shift points, throwing shoulders into seatbacks in true Dodge style,” the company said.
🤔
don't think anyone was looking for those tedious power dips from shifting
adding fake "shift points" to an EV to simulate the upshift lurch
meanwhile, everyone who prizes EVs for performance reasons just wants that flat torque plateau and the linear speed gains
sharp star
does anyone know if the Steam Deck is sold at a loss?
umbral moss
I have no idea why dodge thought anyone wanted that in an EV
inland mauve
is dodge run by boomers?
umbral moss
worse, italians
royal forge
Anyone use reading tablets on the regular?
one that works with colors
in particular
umbral moss
oh, well, you're going to love the new dodge EV then
since it has a fucking 126 dB fake engine noise system
no
apparently someone made it illegal to have user-customized EV drive noises
modest moss
so what's this bollocks of the 4080 downward coming next year?
seen that mentioned a few times, wouldn't surprise me
plus they have 3000 stock to shift
umbral moss
no, will just bring card prices back to earth
won't be baking in the crypto tax from the start
modest moss
so uh, I just read a brief bit about proof of stake
umbral moss
wish I had gotten into shitcoins when they were worthless
modest moss
it sounds like only people with a lot of eth will be able to get more eth now
umbral moss
having 10k coins at 65k a piece would have been retirement money
modest moss
is that right?
umbral moss
I'm not sure how or if coins are awarded in POS
modest moss
it says 32eth minimum atm
jaunty light
https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/18/23311254/dodge-charger-ev-daytona-srt-concept...
This actually looks cool
umbral moss
you stake your own coins and if you're a bad actor the system takes your stake away
jaunty light
Too bad production model will be an ugly piece of plastic
modest moss
so it's just doubling down on the scam
umbral moss
Too bad production model will be an ugly piece of plastic
good old saturn
modest moss
shady af
wicked anchor
so bitcoin is actually gonna have a problem soon because isn't there a limited number of bitcoin that can exist in the first place
and we're already close to that point
umbral moss
so bitcoin is actually gonna have a problem soon because isn't there a limited n...
the production rate of bitcoin is limited by the algorithm's difficulty
I don't think they're close to the end of bitcoin's algo lifespan
it's kind of funny because mining asics can also be repurposed to crack encryption
wicked anchor
oh so the mining rate slows down dramatically over time i guess
umbral moss
if I was a nationstate, tricking the planet into making custom encryption breaking tools would be an absolute masterstroke
and the real trick to any good shitcoin is that the creator mines the easy half a month before public coin offering
wicked anchor
lmao isnt it kind of meme tier at this point because its not like it raised by 100x its value through natural processes
companies want people to buy into this shit
umbral moss
then uses a smart contract to lock anyone who buys post-PCO coins into the shitcoin for six months
the creator then cashes out and everyone is left with useless shitcoins
wicked anchor
that dogecoin to the moon shit was so cringe
umbral moss
I mean, dogecoin is absolutely peak penny stock trading
modest moss
I don't think they're close to the end of bitcoin's algo lifespan
19m out of 21m have been mined, but idk how long the last 2m will take at increased difficulties
umbral moss
if you bought $1000 in dogecoin when they were worth a millionth of a penny, then sold them when the were 70 cents a piece
wicked anchor
yeah maybe im just jaded to all this crypto shit but like this coin stayed alive on meme power alone
memes are the best form of marketing
umbral moss
my favorite part of the terra incident is that the guy who made it had literally run the same scam before
people knew about it and were still like "maybe he won't pull my rug"
cryptobros really are the dumbest people on the planet
all the avarice of finbros and all the shit for brains of the average reddit user
dull garnet
umbral moss
why couldn't he have gotten an actual porn virus and died
sly walrus
good
umbral moss
those damn porn viruses
modest moss
I don't believe him for a second
sly walrus
let him go broke
modest moss
he's not dumb enough to fall for that, no way
umbral moss
you also don't catch "porn viruses"
modest moss
it was a zip with a 700mb screen saver
umbral moss
because porn sites make all their money off subscriptions and people would never visit if the sites gave your computer herpes
modest moss
just 90s bs
umbral moss
I remember when anandtech got blacklisted for a while because one of their banner ad partners didn't vet what they were broadcasting well enough and the partner used the banner ad to transmit a zero-day java exploit
umbral moss
pornhub is likely worse than any of the older sites, because they make money off ads and subscriptions
ugh, limewire
where any given file had a greater than 50% chance of being a virus or illegal porn content that would get you arrested if you were caught with it
not enough bleach in the world to clean hard drives with limewire files on them
dull garnet
that one clinton address
lmao
before I knew better a lot of good came from limewire at least
modest moss
xp was great
what's vista?
windows went from xp to 7
xp > 7 > 10
never heard of vista or 8 or even 8.1
no sir
dull garnet
xp the goat
tame tartan
deviantart open in ie
dull garnet
>deviantart open in ie <:poppo:700915983795093585>
soul
odd sand
Oh did the new H2 patch go live for 11 now?
dull garnet
I don't even know what I'm looking at
burnt swallow
I need recommendations for 120mm exhaust fans for my P400A Digital
I would do 2 140mm and a 120mm but my D15S I'm like 99% certain would get in the way
dull garnet
Arctic Cooling P12 PWM
sly elk
yikes good luck!
sharp star
https://youtu.be/Dq-VTGrfXrE?t=664 oh yeah DF took a look at it in Spider-Man
It performs worse than the Steam Deck lmao
jaunty light
Idk my stramlight whatevertheshit was like 30 bucks on amazon
inland mauve
"trust me bro"
sly elk
i wonder what discord does....
tbh I trust my iphone less than my computer in terms of security and integrity lol
dull garnet
burnt swallow
Arctic Cooling P12 PWM
Why
dull garnet
umbral moss
https://twitter.com/vinaysshenoy/status/1560166435292266496?s=20&t=2pIBCK62K56Xb...
further proof that 5400rpm drives were a mistake
inland mauve
modest moss
I'm not rich
homie if you're spending £55 on a torch you're rich
umbral moss
burnt swallow
How can I tell if a case fan works as an exhaust fan or not
Inversely how do I know it's an intake fan
void dove
Fans are fans, there aren't really any designed for intake or exhaust only.
modest moss
yeah, you just turn them around
fair parcel
yeah was about to say they do have directional air flow
sly elk
https://twitter.com/morozov_dev/status/1560189391959621634?t=Op7Qvh5gmq5QcoiytlJ...
the funny part is both of those have been true for me
going back a few years it wasn't unusual to have my screens full of windows. One monitor full of the user interfaces to talk to an embedded system, a couple terminal windows open on said system, with log messages scrolling by and possibly a hexdump of packets. A few code windows, a page or two of reference material perhaps. chat message window.
(and as silly as having a hexdump of packets going by sounds, there are times where you're looking for a change in the pattern - like messages getting dropped or whatever, so it can be legit)
a good debug session can really look like you're hacking the matrix lol
potent arrow
homie if you're spending £55 on a torch you're rich
because I use it for work and stuff, it was basically mandatory and paid itself off in a day
Olights and Streamlights are like 5X more expensive
violet badge
modest moss
because I use it for work and stuff, it was basically mandatory and paid itself ...
rich af, the empress of torches
sly elk
oh $50 flash light