wait no wrong model
#technology-discussion
boreal surge
Either way, I'm just amused. I'm more of a adorable things person.
Why are US pencils so soft, every time I sharpen one thing basically breaks
They're all 2B pencils
Like the ones I had when I was younger back home didn't break THIS often
sly elk
Why are US pencils so soft, every time I sharpen one thing basically breaks
the wood material quality matters, too, I suppose
idk about those pencils
when I wanted weird ones i went to the college bookstore (and I haven't needed weird ones sense)
and I got those annoying blue ones with no eraser
forever and ever ago, my oldest bro bought pencils for his art class. they came in a tin exactly like that lmao
they haven't changed the design in at least 20 years huh
25?
but it's the carolinas
the tolerance bit is very tricky
idk how to explain this but it's possible to end up in a funny situation because "BUT THEY'RE ONE OF US SO WE LIKE THEM"
lol
-nods-
I am the product of a mixed race couple XD
but I grew up in the bay area so.... so was everyone else
well, almost everyone else
the bay area does have some funky corners
like martinez. and hell, parts of benicia
random areas up north of napa
jajajjajajaja
sly elk
which mistake?
burnt swallow
i7-12700K + RTX 3060
And they bought the NZXT H510
The not airflow one
That sucks ass when it comes to airflow
sly elk
idk about the h510 but you don't need a mesh case just to have airflow
that said, most of these boxes aint worth restricting airflow haha
plus the h510 was one of the cases that started the "let's mount fans in front of a piece of glass and everything will be ok" thing
that I never understood
burnt swallow
idk about the h510 but you don't need a mesh case just to have airflow
It has no intake fans
dull garnet
Trash
My friend has one of those and a 5900X under a D15S and it runs at like 90c while gaming
burnt swallow
My friend has one of those and a 5900X under a D15S and it runs at like 90c whil...
This does not inspire confidence in my own Noctua NH-D15S
sly elk
My friend has one of those and a 5900X under a D15S and it runs at like 90c whil...
holy cow lol
my 9700k is pretty chill playing ffxiv 😄
burnt swallow
my 9700k is pretty chill playing ffxiv 😄
Is that an i7
burnt swallow
Why do you have an i7 three generations old
WHY CAN I NOT USE THE HAHA EMOTE
I'm only going to have xivlauncher
sly elk
"oops i accidentally installed ransomware"
burnt swallow
Gshade scares me 
tame tartan
"oops i accidentally installed ransomware"
install navashield 
burnt swallow
You need Jesus
sly elk
Why do you have an i7 three generations old
my original plan was to upgrade sometime this year. now maybe next haha
maybe.
lol
i have a 3080ti, I'm fine
no plans to buy another
or SLI 3090s 😄
ha
i don't need that level of performance but I admit, it would be fun to build quad SLI
especially an absurd build
dual xeons, quad SLI, all custom loop
I mean
I'd debate just buying a car radiator
nah for that you have to custom build
really what I'd do is make a radiator tower
get some hoses made, and put that sucker outside
use a stack of delta high RPM fans
tbh I still wouldn't mind trying out a reserator build
-sigh-
oh that system is ancient dude
one has to wonder why they did that instead of running the tubes through somewhere else
haahah
oh my
that is a lot of cooling
and they went with thin ass radiators that probably won't see any difference with push pull anyway?
sheesh
sly elk
giant plastic cover
jaunty light
id buy this shit
sly elk
hehe i put a link to one
jaunty light
sly elk
hmm i wonder
i was looking at vornado fans and there's dc versions that initially seem like a waste because now you have a power brick and the thing costs like 40% more
but i think they might not hum as much as ac fans...
sly elk
and it looks like there's other more generic brands that have dc fans
ahhh
I remember those
jaunty light
pfft
heres wat u do
- dehumidifier
ultimate cooling solution
I want a VL75 but i would need an entire new truck to fit that anywhere
even the vl45 is nice but $699 for a god damn box 
oh god they weigh 50lb+ too
dull garnet
imagine using a depreciated os
paper tusk
might as well be same difference when 14 went 64 bit "only" (but the only difference was it can now ask for up to 3gb system memory instead of 2gb)
absolutely nothing (*other than attempting to spawn s ranks)
dull garnet
afk in limsa (ultimate)
sharp star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbM0bydWWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIn2yTA1mhs these were things?
deep sapphire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbM0bydWWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIn2...
I love her
dull garnet
i remember using those wallpapers with win 7
fair parcel
what in the
dull garnet
wat
fair parcel
that cat anti-theft device 
royal forge
Oh shit he's gonna buy another
But FR...if it's 1.2k...
I'd buy it over the new 4000 series
Which are defo gonna be stupid expensive
And i think Kopite (?) tweeted that the 4080 gettin reduced specs?
Just buy 2 3090tis and use it as a render farm
Or a room heater
Same thing, really
dull garnet
need to sort the motherboard issue first
energy prices are fucked in the uk atm, i think 3090 ti in sli is not a good idea, or upcoming hardware
wonder how shue feels about his 12700K rn lol
royal forge
OF COURSE SLI 3090tis are stupud
royal forge
I cant build a cold fusion plant in my backyard for it
zinc coral
so is spending more than $100 on a motherboard
Depends on the motherboard. There's a lot of good extras like M.2 slots and more USB 3.0+ support that you can get.
lime wasp
so is spending more than $100 on a motherboard
Are you calling me stupid for spending $350 on my motherboard?
dull garnet
yes
lime wasp
dull garnet
its whatever, but i'd rather put that extra towards more performance elsewhere
hasty galleon
Anyone having issues on online store error 401? any ideas how to fix it?, have tried multiple pc's, multiple browsers and everything on earth basically but just cant get it fixed
modest moss
wonder how shue feels about his 12700K rn lol
quite pleased with it so far
dull garnet
i guess games don't peg a cpu at full utilisation. or is that chip not juicy
zinc coral
I decided not to go with intel for the first time in over a decade and it's turning out alright
dull garnet
$50 off though!
zinc coral
That's expensive 
dull garnet
I decided not to go with intel for the first time in over a decade and it's turn...
what did you go for
zinc coral
The ryzen 7 5700X
modest moss
i guess games don't peg a cpu at full utilisation. or is that chip not juicy
weirdly, I used exactly the same amount of electricity over the last two months, so I don't think this rig is making a huge difference
zinc coral
Really cheap but a good last gen chip
dull garnet
that's a lower clocked 5800X?
modest moss
@zinc coral are Fae/Faer pronouns?
zinc coral
Yes
zinc coral
My motherboard was $150 but it had all the bells and whistles and is set up so capacitors won't randomly get knocked off like what happened with my last motherboard
modest moss
a cap getting knocked off a mobo sounds like a major issue 
dull garnet
that'd take some force
zinc coral
Just gotta get my gorilla glue out
But yeah it caused my computer to keep crashing for a week before I realized what happened and no, it usually doesn't take a lot of force if they're not put on the board properly
dull garnet
what happened, did you ram your gpu into it or something
zinc coral
I was putting on a cooler and it was moving around a bit when I was doing it
hard drift
that's a lower clocked 5800X?
the 800x was always just a 700x but overclocked 😭
dull garnet
:o
zinc coral
Never getting that cooler brand again. Tried to get a cheaper one and it never cooled down my i7 properly and if I wasn't careful the computer just wouldn't start up
dull garnet
name and shame
zinc coral
Some cheap company called jonsbro
It was a screw in cooler without anything to make sure you didn't screw it in too much, just plain screws too big for the socket
dull garnet
oomphie
zinc coral
The only problem I've had now with my current setup is the first cooler I got broke after the first startup, but the free replacement worked
Switched to cooler master and going to stick with them and noctua from now on when I go with air cooling
dull garnet
was thinking i might splurge on some noctua stuff, d15 seems a bit excessive for a 5600x though. on the other hand it is basically future proof
hard drift
nah, the future is pumping more watts into the cpu so much so that we need better coolers 😭
dull garnet
i can't see myself needing new hardware for some years, maybe they'll get more efficient again
zinc coral
Probably not unless they drop the x86 or change instruction sets
dull garnet
well, we can hope
zinc coral
Backwards compat is taking up so much space rn
dull garnet
a move to arm would be good
zinc coral
Yeah
hard drift
well, we can hope
think you mean cope 🙏
zinc coral
Maybe one fay I'll make a PC build that I'll make breakfast on
Put a grill over it as the heatsink and just cook eggs
dull garnet
borrow ice's 3090 hotspot
potent arrow
Maybe one fay I'll make a PC build that I'll make breakfast on
my uncooled 3900x would like a word
zinc coral
Lol
potent arrow
one day ill fix the cooler properlu
zinc coral
My cooled ryzen 7 regularly runs at 80C without load and 91+C under load with cooling
Looked up temps cause it was scary and AMD is like "this is the new normal, deal with it plebs"
dull garnet
My cooled ryzen 7 regularly runs at 80C without load and 91+C under load *with* ...
wait, really?
zinc coral
Yeah
dull garnet
i think that's alright for running in and out of circles
here's a q, besides size limitations. why would you go NH-U12S over NH-D15
same price here
dull garnet
idgi
dull garnet
waits on amd ssd
hard drift
*waits on amd ssd*
Soon ™️ (please no) they already gave us gaming chairs
sharp star
they shut down Optane yet somehow Arc is fine
zinc coral
AMD SSD will run at 80C from the get go and have 3 different drivers 2 of which will crash constantly or corrupt your data
I'm fine with my $100 1TB SSD and $200 2TB SSD
Soon we won't be using more than maybe 1 HDD and there'll be more slots for M.2 SSDs with them being bigger
dull garnet
hdds still best for storage, and you can get like 20tb drives now so you might be right idk. i still use one
a weenie 4tb
zinc coral
Yeah that's why I'm saying like 1 HDD
Have that for basic bulk storage and a couple SSDs for games and other programs for speed
I have a 10TB
dull garnet
pog
sharp star
*waits on amd ssd*
AMD should do a mountain bike again
tame tartan
wait the amd bike was real?
hard drift
wait the amd bike was real? <:haha:240841245239410688>
Yes
dull garnet
hard drift
Just like the new amd gaming chairs
sharp star
wait the amd bike was real? <:haha:240841245239410688>
Yeah, and it could kill you
tame tartan
Yeah, and it could kill you
it's marketed to gamers after all 
sharp star
dull garnet
isn't that dude really into xcore mtb though like
sharp star
yes
dull garnet
his daily would be like 10-15x more than those crappy amd bikes
not really a comparison but it makes for a video i guess
late basalt
It was terrible
Amd proving their hardware is as bad as their software
hard drift
Amd proving their hardware is as bad as their software <:vivsmug:838548425922052...
their software isn't even that bad anymore, people just refuse to change their image of the company
hard drift
that's a damn fact, people complain about nvidia pumping all the power they want into the cards and throwing efficiency out the window yet refuse to switch sides despite that
not to mention most of the time the people that are just using it for gaming could easily swap sides to amd/intel or whatever they wanted since most people don't utilize cuda/tensor which is one of the main benefits of going nvidia when drivers are basically at parity
hard drift
i mean yeah but if people will turn the blind eye to nvidia doing it why can't intel? it's the same thing with their cpus
now amd is bumping up their max power and people are suddenly mad yet they supported intel doing it/not being honest about the max power draw of their cpus until recently
modest moss
how's that intel power draw going
idk if I'm reading this right but about 30w idle
hard drift
idk if I'm reading this right but about 30w idle
that's normal for a lot of cards these days
dull garnet
yes i was talking about idle consumption
modest moss
oh I meant my cpu, saw intel
hard drift
oh lol
dull garnet
||which is the most typical case of my usage scenario bc 99% of the time i'm just chatting crap in discord||
dull garnet
dull garnet
power states yo
modest moss
it was at 65w running yakuza like a dragon
hard drift
that seems low
i mean take it 🙏 mine uses 30w at idle 😔
dull garnet
ah yes that thing
hard drift
rebar?
dull garnet
13~15w here
deep sapphire
I hate this stupid app
It’s the worst, I have to type your full name because it decides to show other people named Sarah first like ??? What other Sarah talks in this channel wtf kinda search algorithm are you using discord
deep sapphire
<@54695380410966016>
LOL
hard drift
It’s the worst, I have to type your full name because it decides to show other p...
That doesn’t even work when i type your full name lmao discord mobile is ass
deep sapphire
That doesn’t even work when i type your full name lmao discord mobile is ass
Yeah I’ve tried to tag you a couple times and just gave up this app makes zero sense
It use to work totally fine
hard drift
Lmao yeah
deep sapphire
I could type a single letter and it would know who to tag
Now it’s like why even bother
hard drift
Now it’s like why even bother
That’s why i reply to whatever message i see from them because it’s reliable
deep sapphire
I dunno I only have experience with the iOS app but I swear I’ve heard android users complain too
deep sapphire
Oh
OH
the worst
You type
After the 2nd letter it shows them but you instinctly keep typing
Then it doesn’t show them
You backspace and they aren’t there anymore
LIKE WHY
potent arrow
That doesn’t even work when i type your full name lmao discord mobile is ass
@deep sapphire no it's all because of a stupid rookie mistake with discord. Because of the server size, thousands of us here, it only loads a portion of the members to be tagable on mobile. So if Hank wasn't in this window when the app loads the initial messages he isn't considered pingablr till we scroll to a message by him
So everytime I want to ping him on mobile I do a search for messages sent by him and I can ping him
potent arrow
Hahaha funny person makes a typo!!!!
Case in point here because both have no been in the rolling window for a bit
deep sapphire
<@54695380410966016> no it's all because of a stupid rookie mistake with discord...
And we give these people 10 bucks a month?
modest moss
careful he might steal your LS bank
he's done pretty well for a thieving, botting dramaqueen
yes, Stanislav
he was big in the XI endgame drama scene
etc etc
deep sapphire
They sent me the window sticker for the tundra it’s being built next month so I guess I’ll just stick with it
I was expecting January was like fuck that I’m not waiting that long
modest moss
what colour are you getting? that orange?
modest moss
that looks nice
modest moss
it's not a chevy though
deep sapphire
I know I feel like I’m cheating
But I have to remind myself I do a lot of driving, 21 highway compared to 16 I would get with the new Silverado plus it requires premium fuel
Be an expensive fill up
modest moss
deep sapphire
Ironically it was designed and built in Texas
I think the frame was designed in Japan though with input from the US branch
potent arrow
And we give these people 10 bucks a month?
Pretty much
deep sapphire
Cause they use the frame for the land cruiser too
It’s a fully boxed frame which is nice for its rigidity but they’ve done fully boxed frames before and they trap moisture which means rust
So HOPEFULLY they aren’t that stupid and found a solution to prevent thay
Ha I just got that
I was like huh? Oh ha
modest moss
looking forward to january and Hank posting selfies from the car park when his truck won't start
potent arrow
@deep sapphire
modest moss
@tame fulcrum when is that MSI board arriving?
fair parcel
Not a Chevy 
burnt swallow
Is it a bad idea to plug a PC into a surge protected power strip with other stuff plugged into it or should I buy a separate thing for the PC itself 
sly elk
no you're totally fine
-you just don't want to plug too many high power things in
so like, a microwave and an air conditioner
sly elk
there's no point unless they're on different circuits? wait we disagree on something? 😮
idk I don't have the luxury of dedicating an entire outlet to just my pc
hmm maybe i did nvm
potent arrow
lol
sly elk
the surge protector under my desk has my speakers, 3 monitors, pc, and mac pro plugged into it
I need more outlets though
potent arrow
christ
im just more worried about cheap powerstrips lol
Im sure its fine just a weird habbit thing for me
sly elk
did ya know in house fires, the whole place is in flames in about 4-5 mins?
from what I read, usually by the time you hear a smoke alarm you've got like 1-2 minutes to get out.
potent arrow
whyyyyy
sly elk
idk how people are so chill with living with fire hazards like that
sly elk
you need some velcro cable ties 😄
sly elk
cables too short?
potent arrow
some are too short
some are too long
some just are unruly lol
I need to get one of those like
cable tubes
sly elk
i just have one of those
but I have 3 of them on the same circuit.
so even if I'd like more outlets, I'm not taking any more risks lol
sly elk
I think you have the same cable management problem I do though
the
"I want this to look neat but every time I tie it up I have to tear it up to add or remove something"
potent arrow
potent arrow
"I want this to look neat but every time I tie it up I have to tear it up to add...
yep
Especialyl with how often I set up systems on this desk
sly elk
that's why I have strategically placed velcro
I have a couple of big loops under my desk that I can run cables through without undoing anything
it's not enough to look good for a /r/battlestations post, but it's perfect for not getting my feet tangled up in the cables
sly elk
heheh there's one loop
the other one's hiding behind the leg, to route stuff down to the floor
I really need to redo this because it's sloppy atm
potent arrow
Oh god
sly elk
I consider it an accomplishment that you said that after seeing my cables XD
yea you guys have matching foot cushions
and matching cable management 😄
jaunty light
There was an attempt at sleeving
dull garnet
Management?
agile roost
Honestly a great decision
dull garnet
I bought some chi-fi but honestly they were just bad
agile roost
Unless you’re carrying around an amp to power your hi-fi headphones
I’m okay with wireless buds
dull garnet
My 6xx would turn to dust outside + open design
agile roost
Lol
burnt swallow
I don't have cables to manage yet
But my PC is also going to be on my left where I can't see anything inside it so my cable management probably won't be good
dull garnet
Based
modest moss
🤢
dull garnet
Imagine the noise
modest moss
I need to do something about my fans, when idle they spin up briefly and then stop
it's annoying
modest moss
uh, you're kidding about opening notepad right?
modest moss
I saw a spike of like 10w opening it lol
sly elk
A fellow apple user
is this apple enough?
sly walrus
yeep
sly elk
he doesn't like me anyway XD
sly elk
Management?
those cables gently touching that radiator tho
sly walrus
i keep forgetting about the thermos
dull garnet
those cables gently touching that radiator tho
More heat = better conductivity
potent arrow
is this apple enough?
Why do you have the trashbin
modest moss
moremoneythansense
latent grotto
wish i had more money than sense
sly elk
Why do you have the trashbin
more convenient place to put my empty gummy bear wrappers
sly elk
moremoneythansense
meanwhile there's people who upgrade their rig every time intel comes out with a new chip and buy a new iphone every time it comes out and spend thousands of dollars on headphones
modest moss
meanwhile there's people who upgrade their rig every time intel comes out with a...
and you've surely seen what I say about them too
agile roost
i mean
you kind of have to look at it from the perspective of monetary equivalency
those kinds of people spending thousands of dollars a year on miniscule hardware upgrades is the equivalent of you going to TJ Max for a new shirt or pair of shorts
modest moss
nah there are plenty of people who spend every penny they can on tech, and get in debt for it
agile roost
those people are indeed idiots
with no sense
a sad reality tbh the majority of people are concerned with appearing rich than actually being rich
modest moss
and I wouldn't tease those people like I do Ice or kyanche for buying stuff they can actually afford because they have decent jobs
agile roost
eh i think the opposite would make more sense
sly elk
i mean think what ya want XD
modest moss
eh, I wouldn't really want to kick someone when they're down or making actual bad decisions
but kyanche works hard, if he wants to buy random things then I ain't gonna judge him, just banter
modest moss
hard drift
but kyanche works hard, if he wants to buy random things then I ain't gonna judg...
i work hard yet you hate on me for wanting to upgrade 😭
modest moss
you don't need upgrades
hard drift
i mean i don't need a pc either but there should always be entertainment expenses otherwise you'll live a miserable life
agile roost
lol
modest moss
and uh, I think kyanche probably makes a decent bit more than you
latent grotto
bully bido cuz he's not a intel simp
modest moss
he codes for satellites and space shit, you're working dicks
hard drift
and uh, I think kyanche probably makes a decent bit more than you
yes but it's not like i'm going into debt atleast 🙏 i'm able to afford rent, food and still save for future and save for tech
modest moss
you're at fairly different career stages
agile roost
i think someone who's irresponsible with their money and priorities is more concerning and up for criticism than someone who has financial freedom and exercising it lol
modest moss
there's quite a difference between criticism and teasing people you've been friendly with for a decent amount of time
agile roost
Interesting
modest moss
I don't actually give a fuck what people do with their money and it's none of my business and I'd hope that they're aware of that and would say something if they didn't appreciate the jokes
hard drift
The trashcan
nobody should use the trashcan for work 
boreal surge
Well the apple trashcan
modest moss
trashcan would be a cool media centre thing though, if it can run plex etc
boreal surge
Apparently compiling apps on the MBP is pain from what people tell me
sly elk
Does he use it for work anyway?
no i have an i9 macbook pro for work (can't use my personal machines for that)
boreal surge
*mobile apps
sly elk
i got the mac pro really cheap and use it to drive my side screens and do personal stuff when i'm using my main screen for work
boreal surge
It doesn't fry itself half of the time?
sly elk
also for things that I don't wanna use windows for
agile roost
There’s actually merit to the software ecosystem and I guess security and streamlining that comes with the products
sly elk
yea, like i could've used a mac mini, and had been randomly pondering getting a mac studio to try some stuff (lol) but this came along and I like this
boreal surge
https://tenor.com/view/brilliant-i-like-this-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-richard-ha...
Pretty much the exact line going through my head
sly elk
i'm actually kinda surprised he liked the vw more
boreal surge
Well it's cuter than the fiesta
agile roost
Many peopleI know that work within the creative design and production industry much prefer using adobe on a Mac computer than a windows machine
boreal surge
It also has an exclamation mark in the name
sly elk
^ I do because the hotkeys on mac adobe products are muscle memory for me
sly elk
It also has an exclamation mark in the name
Up!
agile roost
better integration
boreal surge
Spent too much time and money RMAing a GPU?
boreal surge
How long is your hair usually? PFP accurate?
agile roost
Well if she ever complains about how it looks now
You can just blame her
Babe you literally did this
sly elk
"I just don't like how your head looks"
boreal surge
Mine’s long enough to need another haircut. I really get them based on feel, which is like 2-3 months I think
agile roost
Ah I see
Would’ve been pretty cool to work for SE
Yeah I was gonna say I feel like Japan handled Covid pretty well comparatively
Makes sense why you were stressed lol being in Canada
boreal surge
unfortunately you still can't enter the country as a tourist anyway
agile roost
Have you ever considered reapplying?
boreal surge
dayum
agile roost
I feel like the team might be more open to a wider and more diverse pool of applicants
Now
Lol
latent grotto
そう？日本語を学ぶのは結構楽しいと思う
although memorizing kanji readings can be tiring 
the only place i've ever used it is for when i'm watching something in jp or playing games in jp that haven't released yet in english
sly elk
filling in the captcha for phantasy star online lol
latent grotto
lol
sly elk
i only played it a short while and I still get the periodic japanese emails from sega jp
hard drift
https://videocardz.com/newz/core-i9-13900k-breaks-40k-points-in-cinebench-r23-with-unlimited-power-and-5-8-ghz-clock 
pretty nice despite power draw
latent grotto
the price for power
hard drift
they went from coffee lake to raptor lake
Next up is meteor to take out the raptors 
Slight coincidence
highly doubtful, we don't want that
the very last thing we want is intel completely out of the picture, that's how you get a monopoly which is exactly why we needed amd to do good for gpus and now we need intel in the field to lower prices
you want to watch the world burn and your pocket money with it?
sly elk
that's pretty unfortunate
late basalt
if you can at least duplicate the Voyager programming, i'm sure it'll be fine
i mean, how hard can it be? you're just planning for all the "well fuck, XYZ stopped working, how to bypass?" scenarios
sly elk
all that process and procedure won't work worth a damn if you have corrupt actors
if you have corrupt actors they can misbehave and use the process to drag things out and dodge accountability
that's not an argument against having robust processes, just a reminder that idk, needs to be less conflict of interest
this is mostly easy
you also want to write your code so that somebody who's half awake because they got called at 3am to help with an anomaly can read your code and understand what it does
late basalt
you also want to write your code so that somebody who's half awake because they ...
no, not really
late basalt
you want to write your code so that YOU can read and understand it when YOU get called at 3am and are half-awake
sly elk
you want to write your code so that YOU can read and understand it when YOU get ...
I said somebody, that somebody can include myself
TBH it doesn't often.
if I get called in to help, it means whoever was supposed to be working onsite got sick or is on vacation or something
and/or someone's having a real bad day
late basalt
I said somebody, that somebody can include myself
lol
ever look at a piece of code and go "man this is uuuugly. I'm going to refactor it"
then you finally do that
only to realize that a lot of the ugliness just can't be helped?
late basalt
or when you remove a variable because it looks like it's only declared once and never used
and the whole thing fails to compile
sly elk
one thing I generically, not work related, find amusing is there are like 2 core ideologies for organizing data
late basalt
because two variables are that close in spelling/characters used
sly elk
heavily structured data with object-oriented data handling
and less-structured data with generic data handling
late basalt
depends on use-case, doesnt it?
sly elk
i'm probably not explaining that in a good way but, i find the people who focus hard on structure insist on always doing so
no matter what
i could generalize it down to sql vs mongodb
-hides-
sly elk
ice what does it mean at mcdonalds
oh
were you the dude that sent all the drive through orders ot the parking lot to wait?
sly elk
good
fuck the owner for setting you guys up for failure like that
i'm beginning to wonder if ever getting a mcds franchise is such a good idea
because I'd want to run it more like an in-n-out
late basalt
well, not necessarily the owner/GM's fault either
sly elk
and just always overstaff it a little
late basalt
it's McDs
you either get the people that cant cut it at other jobs
or you get the fucking high schoolers
LITERALLY
sly elk
that's no longer true
that's what uber eats and doordash are for
the people who got fired from mcds
late basalt
late basalt
corporate is more concerned with getting people in and out of the damn property more than customer service or employee wellbeing
sly elk
it's like subway
late basalt
so it's honestly a fucking miracle i walked away from it after 5 years without making bodies, getting fired, or succumbed to any sort of addiction to deal with the stress
it got to the point i rarely ate the free meal during breaks (if i got them) and despite eating healthier, AND being the guy that put the fucking truck away every time, i was gaining weight
i was probably close to that
and i could still work faster than a kid a decade younger and probably less than a third of my weight
fucking bitch-ass slackers
sly elk
imma shut up now before I get in trouble
i love how that switches around lol
fine, i'll take your bait
rad-hard hardware is really expensive
you don't need it for short lifespans
or rather
you can figure out the amount of risk and decide if it's worth taking
haha that's not particularly spooky
nasa did it, after all
well that's exactly the point!
you make a risk assessment and decide if it's worth it
they figured out with the helicopter that it isn't going to last all that long anyway
figured out how radiation would affect the parts they chose
and then maybe added some mitigation
yep!
still
you can build a whole spacecraft for the price that a rad hard board alone costs
he more like
"rad hard enough"
"this thing will crash if a solar ray hits it just right, but that's ok"
potent arrow
<@&100464652139368448> uh bot? Scam? Idk this is weird/suspicious
opal pantherBOT
Ban Issued for UltimaKeybladeKing#4776
potent arrow
Bless yen
sly elk
inland mauve
umbral moss
Depreciated
imagine sending an OS to EOL when a huge chunk of the installed base can't upgrade to the new version because of a dumb security policy
your PC was made in 2018? syke, no update for you
royal forge
im eyeing up a SSD as a temporary external drive
what form of SSD should I be looking at?
umbral moss
y doe?
royal forge
because I like speed?
got quite a few 3D assets and textures
i'd like to pull em quickly
I understand a USB C header is the best option vs something like a USB 2.0 or 3.0?
umbral moss
on paper, yeah, USB C can support higher bandwidth than USB 3
but not all USB 3 are the same speed either because the USB consortium decided to make things complicated
for a "universal" standard they sure do a shit job of making sure the nomenclature is universal
royal forge
im assuming they only design cases for SATA type SSDs?
i plan to later migrate the drive to be a secondary drive in my pc
😮 there are some neato M.2 cases
umbral moss
im assuming they only design cases for SATA type SSDs?
as far as I know, yeah, either 2.5 or 3.5" wide
however, I'm pretty sure there are some mothership designs that fit m.2 cards in that form factor
I know there are PCIe cards that do
royal forge
i see some m.2 external cases
but i dunoe about write speeds
it connects via USB-C
but..
umbral moss
they won't be as fast
royal forge
beats my clunker of a HDD with a USB 2.0
umbral moss
the advantage of m.2 is that it's running on the pcie bus so it has direct access to the CPU
USB C isn't anywhere near as fast, even with like, thunderbolt baked in
thunderbolt is what, 40Gbps? PCIe x4 is 7-8GBps?
sharp star
Whoever came up with these USB naming conventions needs to be crucified
agile roost
dull garnet
i like how the actual option i want is the 5th result
umbral moss
good old windows search
although in MS's defense, most people don't want the system option when they really meant control panel
ITT: People unable to separate the literal and conceptual.
Just because the article is about notifications it doesn’t actually need a thousand Apple Andys berating the author for not understanding iOS or another thousand Android Andys telling them they have it oh so much better. Then there is another 600 regailing us, in microscopic detail, their 12 Point Notification Plan with dry, miserable tales of technical drudgery.
Notifications are shit. There. That’s the be all, end all.
based take
sly elk
I agree with that one
The only notification I care about is my alarm clock or a phone call from a family member
Maybe a text but probably not
Almost certainly not an email
And everything else? Fuck it
royal forge
the advantage of m.2 is that it's running on the pcie bus so it has direct acces...
true, but what form factor should I go for, if I intend to use the SSD later as a secondary drive in a desktop?
umbral moss
I mean, you can just use a SATA drive
yeah, it's not 7GB/s because SATA has a much lower bandwidth
royal forge
because, I ASSUME, the main drive should be a m.2 nvme
umbral moss
but it will still work
royal forge
but I assume SATA -> USB C would beat out my current WD Blue to USB 2.0
umbral moss
yeah
royal forge
just to clarify
Most Mobos these days probably have 1 slot for a NVME M.2 right?
as in, just 1?
unless you grab an expansion i guess
umbral moss
dunno, my board is so old it doesn't even have one 
royal forge
lul
modest moss
Most Mobos these days probably have 1 slot for a NVME M.2 right?
no
I just bought a mid range z690 board and it has 3x nvme slots
royal forge
oo
modest moss
1 is superduperfancy intel bullshit and the other 2 are 'standard' pcie nvme slots
royal forge
how'd they fit?
like uh
on the board layout
e.g. does filling all 3 slots mean that I give up a slot for something else?
Because based on pics i see
modest moss
nah
royal forge
it's between the PCIE slots
modest moss
if you put on a giant heatsink they might get in the way I guess
but like
you can see my secondary nvme tucked away there
umbral moss
just watercool them
modest moss
they seem fine
umbral moss
corsair makes waterblocks for their m.2 drives
modest moss
bidori said I should get a heatsink for the second one but I haven't noticed it get hot
umbral moss
I wonder if your monkey's paw curse is that you have nearly unlimited money to buy PC parts, but they're all doomed to be broken and defective
real edge
the threadripper 5995WX sounds like something icehunter would buy if intel had an equivalent
hard drift
Intel won’t have an equivalent for a while, their hedt was delayed until next year supposedly
I mean it is a lie since it says diy market
hard drift
steadily increasing
I’ll stop 😭
umbral moss
I don't need 128 threads
modest moss
that IS bidori
hard drift
I don't need 128 threads <:playdead:593162355274285075>
Guess you wait
modest moss
I think he must be the owner
umbral moss
Guess you wait
for zen 4? yeah, I guess
hard drift
for zen 4? yeah, I guess
September 15 confirmed
umbral moss
Bidori's Tech Tips
is it tech tips when you just say "buy amd" constantly lmao
hard drift
is it tech tips when you just say "buy amd" constantly lmao
I don’t say buy amd constantly
No 😔 you get them yourself 😭
real edge
price is just a number to you based on what I have seen
umbral moss
$6500 is way out of the range of anything I could justify a use case for, honestly
nothing I use my PC for needs that many threads and I could get like, three 40 series GPUs for that price
dull garnet
isn't TR4 bad for vidya
umbral moss
it's zen 3, so it's like.. just more of the same if you have a zen 3 already?
TR is only really notable for the stupid amounts of threads you can throw at prosumer stuff
but the price is well within "I get to deduct this expense off my taxes" territory and not "I might do this one day"
umbral moss
yeah, but who does rendering on a CPU anymore
everyone should be using GPU acceleration since it's way better optimized for the cronch
modest moss
so you're saying it's worse than my 12700k?
dull garnet
for gaming
modest moss
yeah fuck that
dull garnet
umbral moss
yeah, that's not a surprise, it's a server chip for parallel workloads
modest moss
or for dickhead hobbyist video editors who want the highest sony vegas performance for no reason
umbral moss
HEDT has diverged quite a bit from the original "I want the absolute fastest hardware" thought process
HEDT is just failed server shit now
hard drift
https://videocardz.com/newz/micron-24-gbps-gddr6x-memory-for-geforce-rtx-40-series-is-now-in-production rtx 40 series memory ready?
xeon is basically nothing compared to threadripper
even when intel was trying to compete with threadripper their stuff was nothing 
dull garnet
imagine if you bought an 8180
hard drift
hopefully sapphire rapids isn't the same 🙏
hard drift
HEDT using server chipsets from 5 years ago
that's what happens when intel stagnates then gets surprised 😭
umbral moss
nah, intel always treated HEDT that way
hard drift
yeah but it got especially bad when they had nothing to compete with but themselves
umbral moss
they sold the shitty xeons that couldn't go to enterprise customers as XXXTREME PERFORMANCE for DIY
and it was kind of true when xeons had the same cores as the consumer segment, just more of them
latent grotto
hard drift
they always try that shit
latent grotto
hard drift
ISO is garbage
dull garnet
your video card is garbage
modest moss
that's kinda pretty
dull garnet
hard drift
your video card is garbage
you wish it was garbage
modest moss
do you have a delivery date for your pc saffy?
hard drift
it's the key layout, ISO is the big one, ANSI is the rectangle bar
dull garnet
modest moss
turn all the rgb to pink to match the keyboard
yeah maybe by the weekend if you're lucky
yes but I like pink
Bidori don't be insecure
it's ok for men to like pink
hard drift
Bidori don't be insecure
i'm not insecure lol
modest moss
doubt.gif
hard drift
some men look good in/like pink but i still hate the color lol
umbral moss
I plan on painting my cheap ass desk with color shifting purple
hard drift
colorshifting stuff is fun
umbral moss
I need to see how well the topcoat material takes to being brush painted
I don't really want to spend $400 on a medium velocity sprayer right now
modest moss
I mean
it's not really UK layout
bit ghetto lol
2 grand on a pc and buys a ghetto kb
shame
dull garnet
is 50 not enough for a kb?
potent arrow
I see you
modest moss
chiclet is fine for me
potent arrow
die
modest moss
cheaper, quieter
potent arrow
get chiclet mechanical atleat
dull garnet
think i'd rather a dell office keeb
modest moss
it was on offer for like £18, seemed fair
unrelated there are far too many mobile phones these days
modest moss
no idea what to buy
umbral moss
the pixel 6 is OK
merely OK
I don't dislike it, but I wouldn't say it's a worthy replacement to my fallen HTC 8X pbuh
modest moss
6a has no headphone jack so I'm debating how annoying an adapter would be
dull garnet
i have the 6, its okay, maybe a touch large
modest moss
no sd slot either
dull garnet
you need more than 128GB?
modest moss
that's the debate, probably not
umbral moss
the 6a has a lower res screen and less refresh rate, which is honestly fine
dull garnet
Since October
umbral moss
I got the regular 6 on a steep discount through my carrier, they gave me almost 50% off for upgrading to unlimited data
dull garnet
main irk is that updates take like an hour
lol
my samsung tablet just forces that shit immediately
old jetty
Prob a dumb question, but should I just get a tablet for reading ebook/manga and etc
modest moss
weeb
dull garnet
N-no u
old jetty
How much was it?
dull garnet
Too much, you don't really need a good one. I would probably have got one of the Xiaomi ones if those were out at the time
Pad 5 looks okay for a single purpose tablet
burnt swallow
wake up
see Amazon notification
get excited because last computer parts are due today
it's for a skillet my mom ordered
dull garnet
skrillet
umbral moss
based, you got a skillet
hard drift
umbral moss
part of it is that supply isn't constrained anymore
apparently there's a huge liquidation going on of all the random shit that got jammed up in the ports earlier in the year
now that it's here there's no demand for it so prices are getting hammered
hard drift
good \o/
burnt swallow
Noice
hard drift
lets hope it bleeds into 40 series and such
dull garnet
gl w that
umbral moss
I mean, it's going to address a big portion of inflation since these are largely durable goods
dull garnet
pc gamers be like
burnt swallow
Now we need the merger to happen so all the GPUs stop being expensive
dull garnet
i need more performance than i'll use
umbral moss
and rule 4 shit is starting to ship grain again
burnt swallow
hard drift
Now we need the merger to happen so all the GPUs stop being expensive
what merger 🤨
burnt swallow
what merger 🤨
Some kind of PoS merge happening in September or something according to people here
umbral moss
i need more performance than i'll use
I can use all the performance my PC can give me
more frames
hard drift
i need more performance than i'll use
i mean i want something with a little more performance and less power usage than now 😔
umbral moss
hard drift
i want a cool room again 😭
dull garnet
i mean i want something with a little more performance and less power usage than...
less
good one
umbral moss
boo, boring
umbral moss
high efficiency requires a big performance drop
hard drift
boo, boring
well when you're on the 4th floor of an apartment and everyone likes keeping their house around 80 for some fucking reason around us, it gets warm
umbral moss
well when you're on the 4th floor of an apartment and everyone likes keeping the...
it's an apartment, man, you don't get a choice lmao
there's only "on" or "off" for the heat
burnt swallow
Pretty much
hard drift
nah, we were shown how to disable heat by one of the maint people we were friends with
umbral moss
yes, that would be the "off" part lmao
hard drift
yeah and then we get a/c
burnt swallow
You guys get a/c?
umbral moss
my girlfriend's apartment only has two settings, "off" and "satan's flaming asshole"
like I love heat, but the heat in that apartment could air fry an egg
hard drift
my girlfriend's apartment only has two settings, "off" and "satan's flaming assh...
i'm glad ours isn't like that
umbral moss
it's a steam heater, so you can't really do much once the radiator is warmed up
it's not too bad in the winter, when the heat is needed, but it can get to be like, 40C real quick if you don't open a window
boreal surge
So apparently there’s some news on some “metaverse pop star”. Saw it this morning but couldn’t find it again. Need to find it so I can figure out how to shit on it properly
umbral moss
such as shopping
boreal surge
And vocaloid composers turned into vtubers
umbral moss
ah yes, I too wanted to spend thousands of dollars on hardware just to buy virtual shit in a virtual mall
boreal surge
insert japanese bow
sly elk
fuck epson
modest moss
how dare you throw shade at our newest starlet
modest moss
can I be fucked to do that
theoretically get a Pixel 6 on contract for 3 months for £655 and then trade in a shit old phone for £100 plus get a £300 mastercard
modest moss
if I were to treat the £300 prepaid mastercard as cash, this'd be a Pixel 6 for about £255 though
dull garnet
Well that's pretty good then
I paid 599 and got some bose headphones which I sold for about 120
late basalt
This is why I updated to a laser printer.
zealous wolf
https://www.indy100.com/viral/polar-tiktok-metaverse-singer-influencer
looks like horseshit, this asshole has nothing on Hatsune Miku & Vocaloid...
Infact this is why Zucker should loose even more billions of $...
😂
dull garnet
Seems more akin to vtubers to me. Vocaloid is just voice software
zealous wolf
when i see the words "tiktok" and "influencer" in the same sentence, i knew it was 200% going to be terrible...
hard drift
Hank, that’s an unreleased product lol, compare it to the 7900xt smh
dull garnet
Based, me too
deep sapphire
AMD BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY ONCE AGAIN
hard drift
Not to mention 3090 is 1500 and 6900xt is 1k
dull garnet
Not to mention 3090 is 1500 and 6900xt is 1k
