technology-discussion

[sly elk]

spicy you say

[jaunty light]

its like a nice fluffy pillow

its simple, win the lottery

[sly elk]

ice should get his wife that outfit

xD

[eager sandal]

anyone got any good budget bluetooth headset recs?

idk why but bluetooth audio on my switch sounds kinda cheap

[sly elk]

monument valley is more fun than i thought it'd be

also

using bluetooth headsets in headset mode will destroy the sound quality

idk if there are exceptions to that rule

[jaunty light]

dunno about using it in headset mode but a lot of them will not have the bandwidth wit whatever codec it has

[dull garnet]

drops 8k on pc to play ff14

[jaunty light]

like the XM3 s ony supported aptX/HD but not the XM4 so if you use it with mic you're getting like half and half of 256kbps? maybe 320

[eager sandal]

dunno what that means, but i'd just assume that switch in general just has shitty bluetooth support from what you said lol

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/im-a-professional-mobile-gamer-pro-player-mobile-gamer-expert-experienced-gif-15838916

[dull garnet]

Soul

[jaunty light]

[eager sandal]

oh okay i get it

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-knight-in-another-world-arian-glenis-maple-hello-who-is-that-entry-gif-25542007

[eager sandal]

more bluetooth = pooper audio quality

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/mocha-kutty-enjoys-music-moving-to-the-beat-music-headphones-gif-17272286

[jaunty light]

was surprised when I looked up and saw it was fairouz ai

best OP 2022 though no cap

[sly elk]

hehe

she cute

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/green-smoke-skeleton-knight-in-another-world-gif-25804624

[sly elk]

lol

that episode where they're in the motel

getting hella drunk

and then airiane tries to fight skeleton dude

err

[jaunty light]

"fight"

[sly elk]

and everyone thinks they're having aggressive sex

[jaunty light]

ara ara

[sly elk]

uigh suddenly i remember that cig smoking episode of king of the hill hahaha

[burnt swallow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gGTXJM

[sly elk]

oooo

nice

[glass wadi]

computer is really slow

says hdd 100% active time but it's not doing anything

restarting it also takes a long time

[burnt swallow]

I was told that my earlier build had too much CPU and not enough GPU so I dropped one tier and went up one tier on each

From i7-12700K to i5-12600K and RTX 3060 Ti to RTX 3070 Ti

[sly elk]

I mean

what are you planning to play on it?

also that cooler is super expensive

[burnt swallow]

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War is probably the most intensive thing I'll have on it

[sly elk]

o_O oh it's supposed to be that much

i thought they were like $79

[burnt swallow]

How in the fuck is a $90 160mm fan super expensive

[sly elk]

lol you obviously have strong feelings here so...

[burnt swallow]

AIO are more expensive

[sly elk]

I wasn't thinking about AIOs at all

for some reason the price I thought the nh-d15 cost, was what the dark rock pro 4 costs

sorry

[burnt swallow]

Oh

[glass wadi]

computer has been stuck rebooting for the last 15 minutes

[sly elk]

but yes, you're right, AIOs are always more expensive, even the cheaper ones will be in the long run

the heatsink is just a hunk of metal.

it'll never go bad. You could argue that the nh-d15 can be used for 20 years

[burnt swallow]

The only thing that sucks is my case comes with a grand total of one single 120mm cheapo fan so I'll have to spend more money getting fans for the other three fan slots

[sly elk]

most AIOs have at best a 5 year warranty and idk anyone who uses a 10 year old aio

[burnt swallow]

And they all only fit 120mm fans (front can fit a 240mm radiator)

[sly elk]

hmm

[burnt swallow]

I could technically put 140mm fans on the front but then the front panel gets in the way of the fans

[sly elk]

would it be cheaper to get say, a corsair 4000d?

[burnt swallow]

As a matter of fact

It's about $20 more for that

Maybe

[sly elk]

ah it only comes with 2 fans

[jaunty light]

hello fellow 4000d owner here good case

uh, bussin fr fr no cap

[burnt swallow]

My Phanteks case has one fan with four fan spaces on it

I don't know what the 4000D comes with

[jaunty light]

2 cheap 120mm fans

I had a full complement of noctuas already but yea I think the config they send is 1x rear 120, 1x front 120

[sly elk]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-4000d-mid-tower-case/6424212.p?skuId=6424212

[burnt swallow]

How many spots for fans in total?

[sly elk]

$75, but it's the solid front panel version 😦

[burnt swallow]

[jaunty light]

in the front 2x 140 or 3x 120, top 2x 120 or 140, rear 1x 120

[sly elk]

hahha

[burnt swallow]

The Flow variant is the one that's more expensive than the P300a

[sly elk]

man i wanna hang out in this dude's computer room for a bit

nostalga hitting hard between the g4 and the imacs

I mean

a lot of schools never throw old computers out

when I wasa in school in the 2000s

pretty much every school in my district still had Apple IIes laying around somewhere

they also had current-era stuff

but they all had a room somewhere where they'd; throw their old crap

yea it doesn't surprise me

if it still works it works

for like a library or a class or whatever where they're just using idk, ms word? who cares?

still pretty funny though

how are their power supplies not burned out?

[sly elk]

Wtf lol

Where are you that schools are so poor they still use stuff that old

Yup

That is indeed all true

I mean it’s like banks running old software

And then why bother upgrading if it doesn’t need to be on the internet

And even if it does you can make a gateway to do that for you

That’s what banks tend to do lmao

[glass wadi]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/778148429104021504/1002879418030633020/IMG_20220730_180433.jpg

looks like my hard drive is dying

[glass wadi]

it's like 5 and a half years old at this point

it's probably overdue a death with how long i've been running it

[jaunty light]

5yrs aint bad tbh but you should be able to tell doing some basic diag commands

[glass wadi]

i tried a couple fixes

[real edge]

I've been running the same drive for over a decade

88gb HDD

maybe its sth that you can fix

5years seems like an early death

[glass wadi]

disconnected it for now

ill do that later i guess

[fair parcel]

have you tried gently stroking it while whispering compliments

sometimes that works

[deep sapphire]

@jaunty light has

[fair parcel]

[modest moss]

first thing I'd try is a different sata cable

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-desktop-cards-to-gradually-launch-between-august-5th-and-september-29th there is hope 🙏

[real edge]

I am expecting its drivers to be worse than amds but

growing pains

[hard drift]

they already are

especially looking at frametimes

[glass wadi]

i tried it with a different sata cable

went back to being unresponsive after a while

shame

can't even copy stuff over

all my apes gone

[deep sapphire]

nothing is worse than AMD's drivers

and they've had 20 years

[hard drift]

intels are

[latent grotto]

go get an intel gpu

[burnt swallow]

Do any of y'all use Teamgroup RAM sticks

I've never even heard of these people

[minor finch]

EK gold water block +3000% performance

[burnt swallow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zrVt9r

Final build list

[real edge]

3070 series is still kinda sorta overpriced

[burnt swallow]

I don't know what 3070 Ti MSRP is supposed to be

But the ZOTAC Gaming one is the cheapest at $650

[hard drift]

600

[burnt swallow]

Oh

Well I'm sticking with the ZOTAC 3070 Ti then

[real edge]

650$ for a 3070ti?

[hard drift]

3080 msrp is like 700

[burnt swallow]

Yes

[real edge]

damn

[burnt swallow]

Good damn or bad damn

[hard drift]

Bad

That price is near 3080

[burnt swallow]

[real edge]

this

[burnt swallow]

Amazon sells nothing at MSRP

[real edge]

you can get a 3080 12gb for like 750-800$

[hard drift]

Amazon doesn’t sell FE either so msrp will be harder

[burnt swallow]

I'd have to wait for my next paycheck if I wanted to make my build any more expensive than it already is

[real edge]

stores are having sales all over the US on those cards, nvidia dropped the msrp of it

[burnt swallow]

Doesn't sell what

[hard drift]

The nvidia made model

[latent grotto]

What no microcenter near you does to a mf

[hard drift]

Only bestbuy and microcenter are allowed

[burnt swallow]

Cries in living in Hawaii

Wait I have a Best Buy here

[hard drift]

Check it

Plus might be sales on there vs amazon

[burnt swallow]

We have two actually

Their base 3070 Ti is sold out

[hard drift]

What about 3080?

Since it’s only 50 more roughly

[burnt swallow]

Also sold out

[hard drift]

Rip

[burnt swallow]

The ones at MSRP anyways

[hard drift]

But can also check other parts

[burnt swallow]

The rest are more expensive

[hard drift]

As expected

[real edge]

don't stores offer shipping?

but yeah 650$ for a 3070ti seems like a waste

I would either get a 3060ti or a 3080 as base price

[potent arrow]

the 3060ti and the 3080 are my winners for this generatin

best price to perf imo

2070ti and 2070 Super last gen

I got a few of those left in inventory

[burnt swallow]

3080 is expensive

Even 3060 Ti isn't as MSRP

[real edge]

3080 should only be 50-100 more than what you were trying to buy

[burnt swallow]

Amazon's cheapest 3080 is from EVGA at a full $100 more

[potent arrow]

the prices of 3080 have normalized here

Yeah uh, I highly recomend not buying pc parts from amazon

[burnt swallow]

Cries in living in Hawaii

Not many other options

And like all of these are cheapest on Amazon according to pc part picker

[potent arrow]

I use newegg because im affiliated with them but idk what the prices are like there

[burnt swallow]

So far

More expensive

[real edge]

750$ 3080

[burnt swallow]

$750 3080 versus $650 3070 Ti versus $470 3060 Ti

[burnt swallow]

$516 for 3070

[real edge]

3070ti is barely better than a base 3070

[burnt swallow]

$580 for Radeon RX 6800

[real edge]

have you watched any reviews or benchmarks from people like gamers nexus and hardware unboxed?

[burnt swallow]

I've been comparing prices

[real edge]

look at performance per dollar

not just prices

reviews is where you will find that

the 3070ti is a waste of money

performance per dollar is like this at base prices

3060ti is king at that

then its 6800xt

at 600$

but amd drivers are dodgy

like so

[burnt swallow]

How does the 6800 fare against the 3070 Ti

Gamers Nexus compares it directly against the 3070, 3080 and 6800 XT and so far the 6800 is just better than the 3070 in every way

But it doesn't compare it against the 3070 Ti

;-;

[modest moss]

there is definitely a higher chance of issues with FFXIV with an AMD GPU

[real edge]

^

[burnt swallow]

Explain

[real edge]

amd drivers are poor

its a gamble

[burnt swallow]

Oh

[modest moss]

based on market share, we see a higher proportion of AMD issues in here

[real edge]

they have good performance per dollar but their drivers are poor which makes buying amd a gamble

[modest moss]

it's less obvious with the 6000 series than their 5000, but it's still a risk

[latent grotto]

Its been better lately

[modest moss]

and you have to make a judgement based on what's available at what price

[latent grotto]

I havent had a driver crash since last year

[burnt swallow]

Well the judgment is that I can get a 6800 for a full $70 cheaper than the 3070 Ti

[modest moss]

it made sense for me to buy a 3070ti because I could get it at MSRP direct from nvidia, and in the UK anything else was still jacked up

[real edge]

6800xt? what price is it

[burnt swallow]

Base 6800 I can get for $580 on Amazon from MSI versus getting 3070 Ti from ZOTAC for $650

The XT I need to look up

Oh

I can get 6800 XT for $670

[real edge]

well there you go, but! amd is a gamble, remember that

[burnt swallow]

Does FFXIV throw more of a fit with AMD GPU if you add like shaders and stuff

[real edge]

amd gpus have more problems than nvidia in general

[modest moss]

I decided drivers were worth the little bit of extra cash

[real edge]

you get more performance per dollar but at the cost of drivers

[latent grotto]

Shaders are usually ok

I havent used shaders in forever tho

[burnt swallow]

Is the $20 difference between a 3070 Ti and 6800 XT worth the risk though

[modest moss]

I should install gshade when I resub actually

[latent grotto]

Idk are you cool with random crashes that can't be replicated

[real edge]

you get far more performance per dollar obviously

but expect problems

[hard drift]

Not even smh

[real edge]

also if the base 3070 is 510$

then get that not the ti lol

140$ more for almost nothing

[sly elk]

rawr

[hard drift]

There’s really little to no risk if you’re looking at the 6800xt vs a 3070ti

[sly elk]

yea actually, I do agree here

what does a 3080 cost vs a 3070ti?

[real edge]

750

[sly elk]

and if you get a 6800xt you can get a sapphire, and those are lovely

but probably overpriced

[burnt swallow]

So the prices I have are as follows

[sly elk]

(Warning: I don't recommend a sapphire 6800xt I just think the nitro is the prettiest :D)

looks like they aren't making them anymore though because the prices are crazy on them

[burnt swallow]

$470 for RTX 3060 Ti
$516 for RTX 3070
$650 for RTX 3070 Ti
$750 for RTX 3080
$580 for RX 6800
$670 for RX 6800 XT

[hard drift]

6800xt > 3070ti

[modest moss]

see this is where prices are wild, you can get a 6800xt for $20 more than a 3070ti, but in the UK the price difference is well over £100 compared to what I paid for 3070ti

[hard drift]

Especially for future proofing purposes

[sly elk]

849 for a yeston 6800xt 😄

[modest moss]

personally, at those prices, I'd say get the 3080 if you can afford it

[real edge]

^

[modest moss]

but also I'm very happy with 3070ti performance at 1440p

[sly elk]

mm, I will say when I had a 5700xt I had no complaints. and it was a very pretty card.

[hard drift]

Yeah but statistically speaking the 5000 series of cards were trash

[sly elk]

thanks to the stupid market, I got my money back and then some

[hard drift]

:dorime:

[burnt swallow]

I would need to wait for my next paycheck

Which is two weeks away

[real edge]

6800xt =/= 3080 > 3070

[modest moss]

yeah, 5000 series I'd tell any XIV player not to touch them, 6000 series I'd just say be aware the drivers can be a bit jank compared to nvidia

[sly elk]

a lot of nvidia cards were kinda jank for build quality for a while

but that mostly affected the 3080/3090

[modest moss]

yeah don't buy an evga 3090

[burnt swallow]

Funnily enough, their 3080 is the cheapest on Amazon

[modest moss]

I'm not sure if their 3080 has issues, but one of the regulars here has had stress with an evga 3090

[sly elk]

I thought my evga 3080ti was defective but replacing the PSU seemed to fix my problems

[burnt swallow]

My PSU is because Amazon keeps telling me my original choice isn't in stock

[sly elk]

i will say after having owned zotac, sapphire, gigabyte, and evga.. the card that disappointed me the most was the gigabyte 😄

[modest moss]

you might want a bigger psu if you go 3080

[sly elk]

but it was perfectly fine

I just didn't like it 😄

[burnt swallow]

What about 6800 XT

[real edge]

excellent card, dodgy drivers is the tl;dr

if you get nvidia you pay for the drivers

not the card in this case

[sly elk]

yea which is funny

because amd adrenalin is really cool

just sometimes things get dumb

[burnt swallow]

Alternatively

I could get the 3070 because the price difference is absolutely insane

And get faster RAM

My RAM choice is 5200MHz

If I drop to the 3070 I could go for 6000MHz

[sly elk]

the numbers check out

[real edge]

faster gpu > faster ram

in terms of performance

[modest moss]

I went with DDR4 anyway

[burnt swallow]

I could go DDR4

But DDR5 speeds

[real edge]

timings and latency > speed

in ddr4 vs ddr5 case

ddr5 needs more time to mature

before its worth it

ddr4 is cheap and good enough as is

[burnt swallow]

So DDR4 3600MHz > DDR5 5200MHz?

[modest moss]

I went with 32gb 3600mhz cl16

[sly elk]

but the question is

do DDR5 boards have more reliable firmware than DDR4 boards?

which type is more common for Z690?

and which type is least likely to be affected by ASUS' potted plant firmware guy?

[burnt swallow]

My MSI Pro Z690-A board came from Icehunter yeah

The what

Also is a DDR5 mobo incompatible with DDR4

[real edge]

boards will tell you what ram they are compatible with

[burnt swallow]

MSI Pro Z690-A only says DDR5

I'd have to get the DDR4 version for DDR4 RAM

I have the DDR5 one

[sly elk]

🤢

THAT IS SUCH BULLSHIT 😦

so I'd have to get ddr4 as well

ugh fuck that

if I upgraded my machine right now i'd go x570 and not look back

wtf intel

maybe they lost all their good engineers lol

oh yea i'm waiting

buying that mac pro burned my upgrade budget xD

[burnt swallow]

How often does AMD change their socket type

[sly elk]

that makes no sense

what's the point of x570, then?

[real edge]

am4 has been around for many, many years but we do not know yet for am5

[sly elk]

idk lately intel's been changing a lot

[burnt swallow]

That reminds me

[real edge]

we do not know the am5 plans

[sly elk]

i had z390 for my 9700k
there was z490 for the 10 series, z590 for the 11 series, z690 for the 12 series

[burnt swallow]

Is the 6800 XT a larger card than the 3070 Ti

[sly elk]

and I think you could use z490 for the 11 series but FIRMWARE PROBLEMS YA KNOW

[real edge]

each model of card is different depending on the AIB that made it

[sly elk]

so no

intel is one and done with chipsets

whatever you buy, know that it will be ewaste when you want to upgrade 😄

[burnt swallow]

AIB?

[real edge]

msi/zotac/gigabyte

etc

those are AIBs

or rather, companies that make them

[burnt swallow]

Oh

[real edge]

not sure but its one way or the other

[burnt swallow]

The AIB for the 3070 Ti is ZOTAC and the 6800 XT is... Red Dragon?

[real edge]

if you care about card size then look at the dimensions

[burnt swallow]

1 Lithium Ion battery required
what

Also the answer is yes

Final question then

Phanteks Eclipse P400A or Lian Li LANCOOL 215

[sly elk]

red dragon = power color?

[burnt swallow]

PowerCooler Red Dragon Radeon RX 6800 XT

[sly elk]

zotac is the cheapest again?

[latent grotto]

I feel like power color was sus

But I cant recall

[burnt swallow]

Gamers Nexus has a review of the P360A which includes scores for the P400A and the Lian Li 215

[sly elk]

idk about the 6000 series, but power color and sapphire are supposed to have the best rep for radeons

[burnt swallow]

The P400A and Lian Li 215 are comparable

Yeah I have no idea if the P400A supports my beast of a CPU cooler

Wait

Can't I just look at the dimensions of it and the Lian Li 215

Oh

Bet

Where is that

This page is currently not working
Outstanding

The timing for my current RAM is 40-40-40-76

What timings for DDR4 would be just as good/better?

It would like

Fucking barely fit

Because 165mm ones don't

In the 360

Oh the P400A has the same max clearance of 160mm

[sly elk]

just slam the door shut until it stays shut

[burnt swallow]

Why in God's name is the DDR4 version of my mobo more expensive than the DDR5 version

[sly elk]

dee dee arr

https://tenor.com/view/dee-dee-typing-dexters-laboratory-gif-9201745

wtf keyboard layout is that

abygtd
txcmpr*e

top row is DEX at least, probably DEXTER hahaha

also it's an ortholinear keyboard

dexter was way the hell ahead of his time lol

original keyboard hipster

right!

ah

hmm

[burnt swallow]

What is supposed to be the difference between the P400A and P400A digital

Because the digital costs $10 more than the P400A

Which is the same price as the P360A

Or am I dumb and there's not a difference at all

Oh

That's the difference

Digital has RBG fans

RGB*

[jaunty light]

yea should come with rgb fans and a controller included

[burnt swallow]

It also comes with more fans

Because why not

It has three on the front while the not digital has one in the front and one in the back

Is $10 worth an extra fan that also lights up

[jaunty light]

if it has more fans then it should pay for itself

[burnt swallow]

It has one extra fan

And all three are on the front

So there's no fans in the back

I guess I could pull one fan off for now and put it in the back until I can buy more fans?

[potent arrow]

I mean just get a fan hub if you don't have enough headers lol

[burnt swallow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xK9xRv

The final build

[dull garnet]

Does an i5 really need a d15

Messed up

[burnt swallow]

You think I know?

That cooler was intended to be paired with an i7-12700K

I don't know what I'd replace it with for a 12600K

[sly elk]

homie wants a nh-d15 😄

Seriously, I have yet to meet a person who hasn’t, at one point or another, snorted cocaine off of an Apple device.

reddit lol

[potent arrow]

That's uh

A choice of a build

[sly elk]

it'll be quiet, at least

[potent arrow]

Uh

I guess

Semi modular PSU in 2022 >_>

[sly elk]

oh yea that PSU has been bugging me

i think if I were going to throw $20-50 at that setup I'd swap that out for something better

[potent arrow]

Like I said that's uh

A choice of a build

[sly elk]

hell a 850 gt is only $10 more

wait wrong link

yea nvm that

[dull garnet]

Yeah I would make concessions in favour of pumping other parts

[sly elk]

if you want an evga psu buy it straight from evga though because there's always that affiliate code thing that will make it a few bucks less

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-GT-0750-Y1 "
Not sure where these stand on the psu tier list but at least they're full modular

[potent arrow]

Be me and follow no tier

I just get EVGA, Corsair or Bequiet

Sometimes Silverstone if I'm building something high watt sff

[burnt swallow]

What are we talking about

[sly elk]

spending a little more $$ on the PSU

[burnt swallow]

I had a fully modular PSU but Amazon hates me

So I went and found another PSU for the same price

EVGA SuperNova GA 750W

Was my original choice

[potent arrow]

I still don't know why you got the d15 lol

[limber grotto]

hello
i can't update the game for some reason i able to play on my other lap top tho

[burnt swallow]

Because I don't know what I'd replace it with

But originally my build had the i7-12700K

I dropped down to the i5-12600K though

I could replace it with a U12S maybe if the U12S comes with the kit to fit LGA1700 sockets

It does

[modest moss]

nope, auto

[modest moss]

!faq launchers

[opal panther]

**Official Launcher Giving you Trouble on Updates?**

Try these alternative 3rd party launchers.

For Windows:

https://goatcorp.github.io/

For Mac OS:

https://www.xivmac.com/

For Linux:

https://flathub.org/apps/details/dev.goats.xivlauncher

Alternative cross-platform:

https://github.com/eorzeatools/microlaunch
(developed by rin#3487 - contact them for help)

Please read all the documentation and guides for these launchers before requesting assistance.

Do note that these programs, like ACT, are technically against TOS. Treat them like Fight Club, and don't be rude while using them.

Please note no staff have tested the Mac, Linux and cross-platform launchers so use at your own discretion.

[modest moss]

the official launcher is dogshit

[limber grotto]

Ohh thanks

[modest moss]

goatcorp launcher will likely sort you out

I cannot guarantee it's 100% safe but I use it

[limber grotto]

i will use it for my old lap top and get rid of official i guess

[modest moss]

you don't need to uninstall the official launcher or anything, just use the new one, see if it updates

[limber grotto]

Ohh oki

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire

Why expensive

[deep sapphire]

because amsoil is the best oil you can buy

why do you need 7 quarts

holy shit ford is GARBAGE

[jaunty light]

i fit 6 to 7 qt idk which so 6.5 is safe bet

[modest moss]

that's a lot of oil

[jaunty light]

its amusing that their gas oil is cheaper than the motorcycle stuff

[modest moss]

thought it was 114 per bottle for a minute

[jaunty light]

I paid $70 for my bike's

[burnt swallow]

Y'all

I has ordered my PC

[agile roost]

Congrats

[burnt swallow]

Mfw GPU cost over 1/3 of the final price

Do what now

[modest moss]

he's saying a bunch of cryptominers will be selling their hardware probably

so maybe cheap GPUs

[burnt swallow]

Oh

Speaking of cryptominers

I have a buddy maybe leaving in October and he's trying to sell his mining rig

What merge

Wut

[sly elk]

every car forum has that one dude that swears by amsoil

(they probably use it as a health supplement lol)

[deep sapphire]

yeah probably

[deep sapphire]

his truck has a big DOHC V8 engine

the crank case probably holds 7 liters of oil

[sly elk]

also

[deep sapphire]

doesnt matter anyway it'll still fail

cause its a ford

[sly elk]

the quickest way to start a big fight on a car forum is to make a thread asking which brand of oil to buy

[deep sapphire]

just buy walmart

its cheap

people swear by oil but the price you pay for "premium oil" you could just invest in an oil change anyway lol

[sly elk]

only the best for my baby!

[deep sapphire]

its true, that shit is really good oil

and 5q for 15 bucks

[sly elk]

never seen it for $15 lol usually it's like $23 and the mobil1 is $25

my bad. 26.47

[deep sapphire]

its pretty cheap here like 18 or so bucks

even brand name is cheap at walmart

[sly elk]

l;ast time i bought oil i got it from autozone because it was like 36 for the oil and the filter lol

idk

right now wwalmart would definitely be cheaper though

[paper tusk]

tech feature gone stupid (variable res video in webm container)

[deep sapphire]

what a lovely name that user has

I've made up my mind

im buying this truck next month

[jaunty light]

Tbh i could use some ass dino oil and switch it often

[deep sapphire]

why are you using amsoil in some old piece of shit truck anyway lol

it probably burns a quart every 5K miles anyway

[jaunty light]

I buy amsoil for motorcycle especially wet clutch cuz dat shit runs hot

Nah mine doesnt burn

[deep sapphire]

liar

even mine burns a little

[sly elk]

wow that grille actually looks pretty ok for once lol

[deep sapphire]

sucks its exclusive to the high country

but it is nice af

[sly elk]

thoughts on polished silver wheels?

[jaunty light]

I might end up going to vegas in september with some friends and buy an AT while im there

[deep sapphire]

I only like black wheels

[jaunty light]

Those wheels are a disgrace

[sly elk]

i don't understand the chrome grille with black wheels lol

[jaunty light]

Sports car tires on a truck

[deep sapphire]

fuk u

fuker

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

I cant get the grill in black

I tried

it comes with chrome wheels by default

but I find them ugly

[sly elk]

2.7L o_O

[deep sapphire]

yeah they offer a 4 banger

that has more torque than the 5.3 V8

[sly elk]

how many miles do you suppose that'll last

60k?

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

Did i ever post ... hm

[deep sapphire]

not long, its got the dog shit 8 speed in it

[deep sapphire]

the transmission that has a class action on it and they still use it

[jaunty light]

Nice chonky with 16s

[sly elk]

lmao

wowwwww

[deep sapphire]

ewwwwww

[sly elk]

who made the 8 speed?

[deep sapphire]

you have the fat bubble one

GM made their own 8 speed I think

[jaunty light]

Thats all they had supercrews in

But it does suck because its impossible to find bed stuff or tonneaus for this style

[deep sapphire]

its has really harsh 2-3 shifts

like really harsh shifts

[sly elk]

sadness

[deep sapphire]

the 10 speed has been nothing but praise

[sly elk]

are you getting v8 or i6?

[deep sapphire]

high country only offers the 6.2 or 3.0 diesel

6.2

its a good engine, only downside is it recomemnds premium

[jaunty light]

Why not pay the extra $4995 for diesel

[deep sapphire]

and another 5000 for amsoil

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

hoooly crap

https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/wcadqe/ball_mount_snapped_and_killed_driver_pics_of/

the pics are apparently sfw

[jaunty light]

T6 is on sale on amazon

Except its jusy normal price

[sly elk]

holy crap

[deep sapphire]

that uuuuh

fuck

im not an off roading expert but im going to assume they did something wrong

[sly elk]

remind me to stay the fuck away from recovery efforts

[deep sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/wc6btt/client_states_pursuit_mode_inop/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

@modest moss

its your car

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF0Fc4yQNcY

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/y1ne38t.png

those are the included wheels

I find those extremely ugly lol

[sly elk]

me too

I can see why they paint things black now

it hides the ugly wheel style

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/PZGXgXE.png

those are kinda cool

[sly elk]

agreed

and

they're twenty two inches

[agile roost]

Actually hideous

[sly elk]

22" wheels dude

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/Q1z6UB1.jpeg

these arent too bad

[burnt swallow]

Better than the first two

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/dWss23v.jpeg

this fits the truck the best imo

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

GOT THE STEELIES

[sly elk]

i'm annoyed you can't get that with the fancy interior

[deep sapphire]

the single cab?

LT and up gets the new interior

[sly elk]

believe it or not, you can't get any of that with the standard cab standard bed

you have to get the long bed to get the v8, even

[deep sapphire]

oh wow yeah

can only get W/T in single cab

not surprising

single cabs kinda suck anyway as someone that drives one

you have no room to store shit lol

[sly elk]

-points at the bed-

[deep sapphire]

hey when its -30 degrees out the fuck if im getting out of my truck

[sly elk]

OOOO

it's possible to get the nice interior with the bench seat and column shifter

[deep sapphire]

yoooo tell me thats available on high country

[sly elk]

just regular LT

[deep sapphire]

😭

[sly elk]

the LT has bucket and bench options

beyond that I think it's standard buckets

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/pW9RAlh.jpeg

WOOD

[sly elk]

the LT trail boss is the highest you can get with the bench seat

[deep sapphire]

kinda like the LT interior more, looks slicker

[sly elk]

and that's only on the 2.7 shit option

you can get the RST 5.3L V8 with the bench seat

[deep sapphire]

no 6.2?

[sly elk]

nope, 6.2 comes with bucket seats

weird.

[deep sapphire]

5.3 is a dated motor, I wouldnt even bother

[sly elk]

i wonder why

does the newer V8 have a different transmission? They both have the 10 speed

I can't see that necessitating the floor shifter

also idk about GM motors but sometimes older is better? lol

on the RST and trail boss there are bench seat options, but picking those deletes the 6.2

[deep sapphire]

5.3 and 6.2 are both pretty much the same age

5.3 just doesn’t have a lot of power

6.6 is offered in the HDs which are designed to be stupid reliable

[modest moss]

such a chad car

[deep sapphire]

For a chad shue

[modest moss]

[sly elk]

yea I wouldn't want the bench seats anyway

the bucket seats are cooled

but having the bench and column shifter sounds more fun xD

[jaunty light]

Ford bucket seats r supreme

Dont @ me

[deep sapphire]

nothing supreme about ur ford

[buoyant falcon]

Accidentally connected my PS5 controller to the computer when I meant to connect my Xbox controller and it treated the little speaker on it as the computer's main speaker, lol!

[jaunty light]

pls

imma buy some cringe slaps to run on my tailgate cuz my paint is flaking there now

love when people are reviewing bikes and it's

[sly elk]

VREEM VREEM!

KAWASAAAAAAAAKI BE ONE WITH THE SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED vreem vreem -it sounds like it's gonna blow up doing 152980345283945235rpm as it goes 300mph down the city streets-

they really should have made it look like the speedometer was saying 25mph or whatever

[deep sapphire]

thx

[jaunty light]

you can just switch it off on hte AT anyways, turn on spotify or something

just the TFT will say the speed

[deep sapphire]

switch off your ford and send it to the junkyard

[jaunty light]

I probably will almost never use my truck once I buy another bike

[deep sapphire]

with how bad drivers are I wouldnt chance it

[jaunty light]

most crash in their first few thousand miles or years of riding because they dont understand how to ride

[sly elk]

in france, just 4% of car owners wash their car by hand 😄

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/980313321083375656.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

ugly emote

post something cuter

[boreal surge]

how many wash their cars

[deep sapphire]

I dont wash my shit by hand

[jaunty light]

I wash by hand occasionally

[deep sapphire]

I bet you use lotion too

[jaunty light]

of course

[deep sapphire]

this french person was talking in a ls

I said I know a french word

chevrolet

[jaunty light]

champagne

[deep sapphire]

miller high life

[jaunty light]

the sham-pag-nay of beer

[deep sapphire]

YESSUM

[sly elk]

lazy saturday ftw

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/nekopara-cute-anime-gif-16190005

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/nekopara-chocola-vanilla-gif-7617587

[royal forge]

https://youtu.be/H3lwNOb8iRE

REALLY SHOULD HAVE CAME OUT SOONER

JUST SAYIN

[jaunty light]

new diyperks video dropped baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cT0jXI7l4E

[royal forge]

DIY perks always makes this shit

And im like

Is it actually.. functional?

Like long term

Like, how can he make something like this for "fairly" ok price

But good ones costs a bomb

[jaunty light]

gotta factor that he already has the tools and skills to do most of it, so his cost isn't the same as a normal person

all the time and "R&D time" gets baked into the cost at a corporate design level

[royal forge]

True

But i do wonder on his feasibility

E.g. like how LTT went nuts trying to build a desk pc. He nails it surprisingly easily

But gotta factor Linus went balls to the wall

But still

[jaunty light]

matt almost never shows failures/frustration on his vids so that's probably why its perceived as easy

IMO the biggest takeaway from diy perks is less the industrial design aspect and more of the "open source" approach to learning where to source electronics, repurpose, resolder properly, etc

[royal forge]

das true

it helps he has a great voice

[jaunty light]

he pretty much built a MFF camera though lol

just a huge one

[sly elk]

On the XPS 13 Plus, just right-clicking often feels like trial and error. Is my finger too far to the left? Too much toward the right? Doing something so simple shouldn't be frustrating, especially not with a laptop that's meant to represent the future of computing design. The invisible trackpad basically feels like a party trick: something that can impress your friends but will mostly make your life harder.

you want a dell to "represent the future of computing design" ?!

the xps 13 looks like what happens when the accounting department designs a computer

[jaunty light]

wow that thing is .. razor thin

razer you might think..

that keyboard looks genuinely awful though. its probably more pleasant to type on a capactitive screen than that

also 15 mins of battery life yada yada

[sly elk]

the way I see it

Dell's design team saw the 2018 MacBook Pro and said "hold my beer"

[burnt swallow]

That laptop looks like it barely functions

[sly elk]

gotta take a moment here to really appreciate how awful the 2018 mbp keyboard was

and honestly even that looks better to type on

-grinds teeth looking at the arrow keys-

the later model was a lot better though

like I don't think I'd mind using ^ that

panda keyboard tho?

[deep sapphire]

Lul ford

7 liter displacement and 30 percent smaller than ford

@jaunty light Explain yourself

[sly elk]

i mean their f150 is older than a lot of people on here probably so i doubt it was really a question of ford vs chevy so much as a question of 'which truck can i afford out of these ones here' or maybe 'my family member had this sweet truck and gave me a great deal' ya know?

or who knows maybe they aspired to own a late 90s f150

i think this is the laptop every nerd that hates thin laptops on reddit secretly wants

also those era thinkpads crack if you look at them funny

they were made out of annoyingly brittle plastic

@modern iris don't ya love it when the cursor just drifts off for no reason? 😄

-takes it off and pops it under a microscope-

[jaunty light]

more bigger engine = better

[deep sapphire]

Wronger

[sly elk]

the only thing worse than an IBM TrackPoint(tm) is the toshiba and dell clones

what was the saying

oh, right!

There's no replacement for displacement!

[jaunty light]

thanks for this icon and program u cant exit out of adobe

its also trying to sync my ENTIRE user folder by itself and is complaining it cant do it

[sly elk]

-gets out a 1L ecoboooooost-

[jaunty light]

are these production engines rn or what

[sly elk]

plus side: you don't need a lift to change this engine

[jaunty light]

the middle and right one look fancy

the left one looks like some cast shit with plastic on it

[sly elk]

-wanders off with a 6.1L crate on a pallet jack-

OOF

this looks very naughty

[jaunty light]

bad jeep needs oversize engine

smh

[sly elk]

this is quite expensive but

http://www.rpmextreme.com/Product/243/PREMIUM-JEEP-JK-LS-CONVERSION-KIT.aspx

I am super amused

it's a plug and play ECU kit?

[jaunty light]

HTTPS version of www.rpmextreme.com is not available.

HQ website

must be good product

[sly elk]

for sure

the highest quality

as muchj as I wanna throw shade at the idea, a new 392 is like $75k

[jaunty light]

just do it

even better turbodiesel convert then roll coal

[sly elk]

i could just trade my jeep for a diesel one

but why would i

[jaunty light]

solidarity with europeans

idk why they even sell a jeep in diesel

other than FCA being the same product in a different chassis

oh great now it's stellantis

Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Fiat Professional, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Mopar, Opel, Peugeot, Ram and Vauxhall.

[burnt swallow]

Yes

[sly elk]

My husband is old Gen Z and I'm young Gen Y. I had to teach him how to use Adobe and make a PDF. Between him and the boomers at work, I'm convinced that there are only 2 generations that are really comfortable with Microsoft office products

there's a bit of blurrioness between gens so if you border a year you can kinda pick

in my experience people near the border tend to claim they're part of the older generation XD

[dusky magnet]

I remember this time my old boss was complaining about millennials and how they "ruined everything" but, in a brief moment of clarity, he stopped to ask what even is a millennial. When I answered that he is a millennial, he paused for a second before doubling down, even angrier that millennials "ruined everything" now counting himself in their number, reaffirmed.

[sly walrus]

…

[boreal surge]

Am I a millenial or a gen z cause I like neither

[sly walrus]

self loathing? millenial

[boreal surge]

More world loathing tbh

[sly walrus]

honestly i want to excise 96 and 97 from this whole conversation because it’s bullshit

[boreal surge]

As a 97 explain how its bullshit

[jaunty light]

oh yeah baby im a zoomer

love to see it

before I upped to 1G cough more like 600mbps I went over the 3TB cap by like 500Gb

they were like "yea we see that but this is your first time going over data cap so it's coo"

nah this is just the builtin w10 usage meter

aluminum wire very good and economical

buy me this https://www.dell.com/en-in/work/shop/productdetailstxn/networking-s-series-25-100gbe

does ur house not have central air?

30k what lmfao

time to buy a new palce then tbh

wouldnt be surprised if good HVAC would be more than that + modifications or rewire to support mroe load

like 100k

plus dealing with everything being torn apart while still living there

minisplit = ass

if it was the difference between spending 5k on a minisplit vs 25k on central maybe

but no way spending 30k on minis

do u have some weird layout house

single story? double?

ya thats what id define as weird

thats prolly why its so expensive

[real edge]

congrats

I am glad we convinced you out of the 650$ 3070ti

[jaunty light]

raw cost is fine I just mean installation. at least here a single story home would be like 10k for a central AC install with all ducting. minus the AC itself

probably not possible in a townhome because of construction licensing and all sorts of other bullshit though

to me it just seems overly expensive

doing central HVAC is completely different from running minisplit hose

mwaha BTU isnt that bad

10x9? as in like 100sqft?

how much thermal output

no like the room

i imagine that this would be a lot of heat output in the room. given that turning off cooling would result in heat rising that fast tbh

no airflow then

gotta remove the heat while cooling

if it's stale air then it kinda just sounds like 8k is at equilibrium

we have 2x5 ton coolers in this room I just did calculations on for new air handlers and I recommended 2x15 because of how shit the room actually is

they converted it from a normal office type of room with a drop ceiling and no drop floor

so there's no insulation on the outer walls and roof to actually handle heat, and it's all trapped and doesnt get removed except it's just sucked in by the handlers

[sly elk]

hmm i wonder if I can make my desk look cozier

[jaunty light]

if I shut off both handlers it doesn't take more than a few mins for the room to get up +10f

to be fair I ain't no house architect but at least with rack cooling removing heat is as much important as bringing in cool air

[sly elk]

i'm sure it can be done?

pretty sure the central heat in the last house I lived in was retrofitted

the blower? yes you can

that's how it is done in a lot of houses

i've seen the compressor mounted on the roof before lmao

can't say I'm in love with that option

ahhh ok

yea it should be fine

our house in vegas has the furnaces/blowers in the attic

but the attic is pretty big too lol

[jaunty light]

what a dreadful looking install lmao

[sly elk]

it sure is

imho condensers on the roof always look awful

[jaunty light]

seems fine to me

[sly elk]

oh yea it'd fit fine

when I was in college we rented a fairly new house that had the blower/furnace in the attic and it was a really small attic

I don't have pics

but it was really small lmao

they don't really vibrate?

shit sometimes they hang from the rafters

https://www.kilowatthvac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/image009.jpg

[jaunty light]

those are.. some gaps

[sly elk]

haha no kidding

[jaunty light]

thats y u pay people to do that shit

[sly elk]

i think the hardest part would be getting it up there

and yea, you pay people to do that

and it will be expensive if they have to repair it during the summer months

but ye, pretty common way to install central heat/air

[jaunty light]

rather part with me monies than deal with a summer attic anything for more than an hour

[sly elk]

for stuff like this

i feel like it's better to deal with the painful way once then to live with a shitty system that never works right

that said, mini splits are always a good option?

that's a loootttt

geez

how big is your place?

o_O

oh right but you need ducts and everything

WHAT?!

WTF

[jaunty light]

must be some fucky wucky with being a 3story or something that causes the air to be so dead or something

cooling scales almost infinitely with vertical height but idk how it would affect a townhouse so bad if we are assuming just stairs

[sly elk]

could also just do the 2nd/3rd floor and run a mini split in the bottom floor

but how does that figure

$5k per unit?

[jaunty light]

i still think your install costs are the bitch here no fucking way id pay 15k+ for an install

[sly elk]

no.

that's too damn much

try getting some more quotes?

[jaunty light]

for the price of 100k might as well buy land then get a house built

[sly elk]

unless your place is made entirely out of bricks and concrete

[jaunty light]

just move to bellevue

[burnt swallow]

You proceeded to talk me into one that costed $20 more

[jaunty light]

you'd probably get a decent place that is 1800sqft for less than a mil

I mean, it aint seattle™️

[sly elk]

like

looking around the internet

[jaunty light]

but then yeah you need to deal with america

[sly elk]

most random places say something like 10k to install central ac/heat in a house that doesn't have any ducts

which sounds cheap but still

[real edge]

3070ti was barely better than a base 3070 which was 140$ cheaper I just wanted you to get something actually worth the money lol

[sly elk]

lol

[jaunty light]

on the topic of WA I did have a rant a week ago about how all the fucking "luxury homes" are in awful taste

[burnt swallow]

I probably would've been fine with the base 3070 instead of investing into the 6800 XT with how much cheaper it was

[sly elk]

if they have to call it luxury, it isn't

[jaunty light]

15 million dollars and the kitchen 250sqft and doesnt have a cooktop vent or anything

[sly elk]

O_O

ok n vm

is it 15 million dollars because the land though?>

[jaunty light]

then you have these god awful like, what do you even call them, tiki art?? or some shit all ove rthe walls

guaranteed yeah but still if its a 5ksqft house i still expect a modicum of something good

[sly elk]

out here the whole 'tuscany villa' thing is dead

and new places are like

WOOD

[real edge]

if you are on 1440p then the 8gb of vram might have not been enough for the next 5 years

[jaunty light]

almost all the high end houses "" quotes are on a waterfront

[jaunty light]

WHY DO YOU NEED LIKE 12 FUCKING CHIMNEYS

[burnt swallow]

How

[real edge]

5 years is what I expect gpus I buy to last

[burnt swallow]

Oh

[sly elk]

trhe only thing i like on these

is the glass garage door ❤️

[burnt swallow]

Wait how much vram does a 6800 XT come with

I forgot to look

[real edge]

every game needs some vram and some games already go over 8gb if you want to max them out

like microsoft flight sim

[jaunty light]

at least this house which is TWENTY WHOLEASS MILLION DOLLARS has a good kitchen

double stove, venting, huge fridge

[real edge]

at 1440p

[real edge]

16 gigs

[sly elk]

i hate that faucet

[burnt swallow]

what

[sly elk]

my landlord installed one like this when ours broke

i hate it

[real edge]

16gb of vram, 3070 has 8

[sly elk]

it's kinda floppy and sits way too low

[jaunty light]

but yea. that sink is so small. at least it has a double sink in the island

[sly elk]

fair nuff

my sink looks awful

[burnt swallow]

That's a lot of vram holy shit

[jaunty light]

its really the least egregious "expensive" house ive seen because i jsut like modern hoiuses but

you can see how fucked the land zoning is

[sly elk]

i wanna live in a house that isn't a ranch style

[burnt swallow]

What the fuck GPU has enough for that

[real edge]

yup, depending on the resolution, you might need it in the future, not many games strain vram right now tho

[jaunty light]

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6413-Lake-Washington-Blvd-NE-Kirkland-WA-98033/48691858_zpid/ i actually really like the interior on this one

[burnt swallow]

My monitor is native 1080p so I'll probably be fine for a while

[real edge]

yeah 1080p fine

[burnt swallow]

I could save some monies and invest in a 1440p monitor

[sly elk]

the one i applied to rent and i'm hoping to get is pretty neat though

[jaunty light]

the kitchen is mega underwhelming though which is prolly why they showed like 1 half pic

[sly elk]

still not really my style

[burnt swallow]

I don't know how well a 6800 XT would handle 4k but a 4k monitor is probably freaking expensive

What game are you playing that you need a 3090 for it

[jaunty light]

4k monitors arent bad at all same with a lot of UWs unless you want something really specific like color space, high refresh rate, etc

[burnt swallow]

What

On what planet does Division 2 need that much vram

What are you doing to that game