technology-discussion

[odd sand]

They have these as well. Not sure what the diff is between them and the other EPOS https://drop.com/buy/epos-sennheiser-gsp-602-gaming-headset

Their builtin mics are condenser mics and give solid sound. My friend had a PC350 headset from sennheiser he used for over 5 years and his mic quality was always really good. Nice isolation as well

[hasty harbor]

hmm

i will save these links and look at them closer

well i have some headphones to look at, and i also got 2 stand mic, thx to vielen dank
Which are blue yeti and Rode-NT USB

[sly elk]

lol

as for the highs on the dt770s

maybe try dt880s if you don't mind open back?

[hasty harbor]

open back?

[odd sand]

Ironically enough even tho its 149 and the other one is 169, the GS602 looks like better build quality

[sly elk]

and for mics

the blue yeti is huge but it's hard to find anything else like it for the price .... if you get it really cheap.....

[odd sand]

He wanted to keep the price around 150 and you said those were 200 tho

[sly elk]

oh yea

sorry that's a big point lol

blue yetis can often be had for <$70

[hasty harbor]

i can go a bit above 150 for the headphone, but not to much

[odd sand]

Blue Yeti is so It's Skullcandy tier stuff isnt it?

[hasty harbor]

what ya mean

[odd sand]

Or maybe Beats is a better comparison

A brand name with huge recognition, but its not that great compared to other brands

[sly elk]

ugh I take that back

looks like <$100 these days

bbut I have seen them in the $70s before

[sly elk]

it's just giant and not very good looking

but it's like a hyperx quadcast or maybe a wave 3

[dull garnet]

i think the PC38X is probably the right option here honestly

[hasty harbor]

ep or sen

[sly elk]

but those usb mics all kinda sound the same

hmm the pc37x looks like a game one?

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Game-ONE-Gaming-Headset/dp/B00KK8ZLEC

definitely check the reviews on those

[dull garnet]

pc38x is just newer i think

[odd sand]

I was thinking as well but maybe see what the build difference is between that and the GS602 bc the 602 fit and finish looks a lot better imho

the PC38X is the all foam like the HD6XX (which is my least favorite thing about them) whereas the 602 has that nice sewn leather look

But I suppose the real question is what drivers it uses

[sly elk]

I'm weary about sewn leather

that stuff starts flaking off after a few years

[hasty harbor]

damn, seem im gonna stay with my old head a bit longer, there to many options

[odd sand]

[hasty harbor]

[odd sand]

I mean, we're splitting hairs here. None of these are bad headsets

[sly elk]

one thing to consider

[hasty harbor]

nothing wrong with that, just there so many of them

[sly elk]

is what you can use without an amp

but i think pretty much everything we've discussed will work fine without one

[odd sand]

Yeah I think they rebranded them around that time

[hasty harbor]

alright, but about the mic thing

[sly elk]

wlel

[odd sand]

Nerds gonna be pedantic

[sly elk]

there's that $40 hyperx mic

[hasty harbor]

what stand mic are good then, the yeti and Rode NT

whats it name

[sly elk]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hyperx-solocast-wired-cardioid-usb-condenser-gaming-microphone/6434293.p?skuId=6434293
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samson-q2u-dynamic-usb-microphone/6361715.p?skuId=6361715
I think those are like the best cheap mics? 😄

[odd sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HeadphoneAdvice/comments/jj1m9d/pc38x_vs_gsp_600/

Supposedly they have the same driver in both

[sly elk]

omigosh

[hasty harbor]

what is open back

[sly elk]

style-wise

i'd never buy the gsp600 lol

[hasty harbor]

ah

that hyper doesn't look that bad

isn't the 2nd one a podcast one?

[odd sand]

I've used an AT2020 USB mic for like 10 years now

[hasty harbor]

damn, how good is it

[odd sand]

Only complaint is it picks up a lot of ambient, but I don't have a shroud for it or anything

[dull garnet]

that GSP 600 looks pretty good

visually

lol

[hasty harbor]

is it default or a age thing

[odd sand]

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-GSP-500-Acoustic-Headset/dp/B07CK4J1SW/

lol Drop doin us dirty. you can pick up the 602 on amazon for 139

[hasty harbor]

[odd sand]

https://www.amazon.com/EPOS-Sennheiser-GSP-602-Noise-Cancelling/dp/B08DFXYB2T/

Oh the 600 vs 601 and 602 is all the same headset, it just changes the number for the color scheme

The black and white ones are both $99 on amazon wow

[hasty harbor]

[dull garnet]

500 is open pog

[hasty harbor]

quick question, its not part of the headset thing
i always use g502, should i upgrade to hero or get the 600 mouse

[odd sand]

Is there anything broken about your current mouse?

[hasty harbor]

nah, its just super old

i had it since i got my pc build for the first time which i think was 6 years ago

maybe the wheel button when it can go from click to loose, but other than that, its fine

[dull garnet]

don't replace it then

[hasty harbor]

its more like in the future, which one is worth going for

or when there is a sale

[odd sand]

I've been using my Deathadder Chroma since uhh... 2014 says Amazon

I honestly don't see a reason for the 25k dpi mice these days since it means your sensitivity needs to be set at ridiculously low levels for it to not fly off the screen moving 2mm

Mine is 10k dpi max and Ive always had it set at like 1800 anyways

[hasty harbor]

they might have ultra small desk or they want to rp as a helicopter

[odd sand]

Ironically enough my first two Deathadders died in like 18mos bc the LMB would snap off

[hasty harbor]

[dull garnet]

my mouse supports 20k dpi, i use 1600 dpi

[odd sand]

Then with the Chroma they fixed the design flaw and its been perfect since except the rubber thumb rest on the left the glue isnt great, but you can fix that by just applying some new epoxy

[dull garnet]

but 8000Hz

[odd sand]

How does that even work? I didn't think USB did polling above 1000hz...

[dull garnet]

https://www.razer.com/gb-en/gaming/mice/razer-viper-8khz

[hasty harbor]

so if they going to have a sale, should i stay with 502g or 600g

hmm let me check that one

80$ to 70 at my place, not bad

[odd sand]

One reason I've stayed with the mouse as well is bc I hear lately the mice companies are cheaping out on the cables and making them rubber instead of woven

[hasty harbor]

[odd sand]

Although I suppose one solution to that is finding a mouse that you plug in your own USB-C. But I'm really picky about weight and shape of the mouse so I stick to the Deathadder

[hasty harbor]

isn't it rubber on the inside and then woven on the outside

hmm

[odd sand]

Maybe? Probably not since its not THAT thick. It just needs to keep the wires protected

Razer has a competitor to that called the Naga btw

[fair parcel]

Logitech fam

[odd sand]

Logi always has garbage ergo imho so

[fair parcel]

I like my glorious model o a lot but G pro is nice

[hasty harbor]

i always use logitech mouse, never switch out,then again it is my first one so it hold something for me aleast

[hasty harbor]

ergo?

[dull garnet]

mx518

[odd sand]

ergonomics

[hasty harbor]

ah, i had to goggle it

[odd sand]

ergo proxonomics

[hasty harbor]

hey, @odd sand i found a mouse for u

[hasty harbor]

[dull garnet]

the kill button 😎

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/flagship-nvidia-ada-sku-might-feature-18176-cores-48gb-memory-and-800w-tdp

Damn

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-hell-gif-13171534

[deep sapphire]

Holy shit why would ANYONE buy AMD at this point

Literally double the performance over last year and it’s on a tock architecture

Nvidia best place to work AND best GPUs

[hard drift]

for the low low price of 2.2x powerdraw

[deep sapphire]

Some of us aren’t poor like you

Yeah delete your message

[hard drift]

Go ahead hank, upgrade your pc :p

[deep sapphire]

Get back to work

[hard drift]

I’m off fucker :p

[deep sapphire]

I haven’t had a day off since 2007

[hard drift]

I refuse to be a slave to capitalism :p

[deep sapphire]

I wanna call the plant manager some mean words

So I’m gonna

[hard drift]

That’s right slave

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-epyc-9664-could-be-the-flagship-96-core-genoa-cpu-with-400w-tdp yet intel is doing https://videocardz.com/newz/specs-of-intel-xeon-sapphire-rapids-ws-workstation-xcc-cpus-leak-out-xeon-w9-up-to-56-cores-and-350w-tdp basically half the cores for 50w less

@deep sapphire how do you explain this

Nitro dies in a few days

[dull garnet]

Cough up wagie

You want to be accepted by your internet peers right?

[hard drift]

i couldn't care less about being accepted by people behind a screen

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/anker-ganprime-chargers-announcement/ might be time to buy a new charger

[sly elk]

so about headphones

i admit i do really like open back headphones

if you get a nice comfy pair they feel like you aren't wearing anything because you can still hear pretty much everything around you

except you have music like as if you were playing it on your desk speakers

and for some headphones, as if you had a banging stereo in the room

[potent arrow]

Call me a phychopath but I like having my bookshelf speakers + h6xx on at the same time LMFAO

[dull garnet]

Yeah

You a psychopath for that

[potent arrow]

It feels funny

[sly elk]

subwoofer chair

deleted

https://tenor.com/view/strongbad-deleted-homestar-gif-19430150

[potent arrow]

Small

[royal forge]

Lmao

[royal forge]

I swear, if we combine our powers, we'll cripple the tech world

[sly elk]

ok i think I know how i'd wanna do a custom loop build now

[sly elk]

I am never going to understand that gpu mounting location

I suppose it does let you have your cake and eat it too, in terms of having a vertical GPU without covering up half the motherboard access

[umbral moss]

finally, a worthy upgrade to my titan

will definitely need its own cooling loop though

[dull garnet]

Titan though

Cool name > more power

[umbral moss]

it's very likely the flagship, full die will be a titan part

since it will command a huge price premium and nvidia doesn't like giving large amounts of vram to the peasant geforce series

[royal forge]

im looking up AIOs atm

it seems its similar performance with like, a decent fan cooler, right?

[umbral moss]

yeah, the advantage of AIOs is usually noise and not much else

you get comparable performance to a good HSF but you don't need a 6kg lump of copper on your CPU

[royal forge]

it always made me nervous to see that hanging off mobos

like "jesus christ, what if a mild breeze pushed it and it snapped"

[umbral moss]

I had one of those on my PC before this one, I needed to use metal wire ties to brace it because it was pulling the socket off the board

now I water cool and life is good 😌

[royal forge]

i'd love to water cool, but jesus christ, it's expensive

[umbral moss]

yeah, but you reuse most of the stuff for a long time

my pumps are from 2013 and still running

you get breddy gud value from watercooling components but it's capex

you have to buy it knowing you're keeping it in service for a long time

[potent arrow]

Also for compact for factor, my main reason lol

Towers are fucking annoying as shit in sff

[umbral moss]

a high dissipation copper tower is bigger than your sff box

[potent arrow]

LOL

Mood.

[potent arrow]

Depends on if you do a full loop or not, and really just go for an easy soft tubing.

Save on tools and time : P

Hard tubing is all aesthetic

[royal forge]

it's quite expensive to ship that shit over to me

im genuinely debating taking a huge luggage bag

going to the capital city

haggling for my parts

bringing it all back via flight

[royal forge]

is it cheaper for full loop? Probably not right

[potent arrow]

I mean the real cost is tubing and the blocks itself

Fittings are kinda expensive, but as long as you aren't doing anything crazy it's fine

Softubing you don't have to worry about messing up

Or any fancy fittings to get runs where you want

And you save on tube tools

So uh yes but also it's minimal

[royal forge]

ah gotcha

buys solid gold fittings

buys copper and tin fittings

[potent arrow]

: P I use standard cheap ek stainless

[royal forge]

is it copper and tin that interact?

or copper and stainless?

[potent arrow]

Don't mix different metals period.

[royal forge]

lemme take a lookie at what I have here

DAMN IT IM SUPPOSED TO STUDY

[umbral moss]

copper and aluminum, copper and stainless isn't ideal but it will shit up your loop far slower than copper and aluminum

read: don't buy car radiators and put them into your PC loop because they'll shit up your entire circuit with aluminum hydroxide

copper and nickel plated brass is the ideal because brass is majority copper, so you have fairly low galvanic corrosion

my loop is copper/nickel/brass and the water is as clear as the day I put it in the reservoir

[potent arrow]

Been thinking about the next pc I build

I don't think aio is gonna cut it anymore

[royal forge]

whatchu plannin

[potent arrow]

Well I'll be done school then

So w/e highest end amd system I can get lol

[royal forge]

ooo

congrats?

since ur finishin school

[potent arrow]

I mean by then

I have a year and a half left

[royal forge]

thats p soon

another SFF?

my local store is sellin one of these cyberpunk-y PC cases

that looks like a scifi battery

[potent arrow]

Always sff

To the day I die

Sff is the only one I'll use lol

I think full tower is a waste of space

And like

Mid tower is ugly

Lmfao

[royal forge]

ouch

just as I was mid tower shopping

[potent arrow]

I don't like all the dead space in it

But I'm uh, more function> form

I'll take my plain compact box

Also the mid towers I've been building for people have all been the Corsair 5000D

[umbral moss]

I like full towers, but you're right that they take up a lot of space

I might buy a literal cabinet and put my next tower in there

[potent arrow]

I bought 5 of each fractal pop skus

Going to see how they sell

[potent arrow]

I shit you not, I had a client who handmade a fucking table for his full tower

Like wth lmfao

[royal forge]

wut

like

as in, built the pc into the table?

or

[potent arrow]

No

[royal forge]

just a table to match the pc

[potent arrow]

A table

Wood worked a table for it

Fucking lol.

[royal forge]

lol

did he use the epoxy thing i've seen people go crazy over?

have ya seen those?

[potent arrow]

No just a traditional table

I hate resin tables

Stupid hipsters

[royal forge]

u and hank both

kek

it used to be p cool

the combo of wood and epoxy was cool

[umbral moss]

I considered making a PC box out of wood so it looked like furniture

[royal forge]

but kinda overdone to me

[potent arrow]

Because we are practical lol

[royal forge]

i would think the wood would get fucked up due to constant heat cycling

[potent arrow]

I've done two builds inside custom wood cabinets under a tv stand

It's not too bad tbh

[umbral moss]

you can use real hardwood and get a thicker cut so it doesn't warp

you're not using like, 3mm wood veneers

[potent arrow]

Lol

[umbral moss]

think 12 or 18mm thick

[royal forge]

MDF

[umbral moss]

[potent arrow]

I was going to say, tf you building in? Ikea cardboard box?

[royal forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-z9PidYH4E

[umbral moss]

ironically mdf is actually dimensionally stable

[royal forge]

ngl

cool looking, but... makes me think of a nespresso machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fnsGHe8eE

[umbral moss]

you don't see as much cupping with mdf because it's an engineered product

[potent arrow]

It's almost as if it's super commonly used as construction material : P

[umbral moss]

natural wood will do whatever it wants if you don't dry it first

[umbral moss]

not for heavy load bearing

[potent arrow]

I think Ikea cardboard has really slandered MDF lol

[umbral moss]

melamine is shit, that's why

[royal forge]

gonna use bamboo

for my weeb aesthetic

[umbral moss]

proper MDF is very different from melamine

[royal forge]

(actually bamboo would b p cool)

[umbral moss]

shitty chipboard with plastic slapped over it

doesn't hold screws at all

[royal forge]

sarah, have you seen the unicorn pc gundam case?

made out of the unicorn gundam head bust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIJcYLK0LzA

[potent arrow]

But why

[royal forge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[potent arrow]

As my teadesmen friend says, with enough screw anchors.... anything is possible

[umbral moss]

you need to use glue with chipboard because any self-tapping screws will tear right out under transverse load

fucking annoying

MDF also has this problem but the sawdust and glue gives you a little more headroom before the screw goes "haha fuck you" and shreds the board

[potent arrow]

I fucking hate working with mdf

[royal forge]

how dumb is something like.. a marble pc case?

[potent arrow]

Because cutting it is a pia

Too much chipoit

Chipoit

jdidoaoa

CHIPOUT

[umbral moss]

considering it weighs like 150kg for a full tower, you tell me

[royal forge]

[potent arrow]

Hope your desk is made of steel

[potent arrow]

My friends pc has jade inlays

[umbral moss]

I too enjoy tearout just from giving MDF a stern glance

[royal forge]

wow

ok jade inlays sounds.. kinda cool

how would that work

[umbral moss]

nothing says fun like taking a router to MDF and the veneer just blooms into oblivion

[potent arrow]

Pain

[umbral moss]

https://www.woodworkerssource.com/roasted-dark-lumber/roasted-red-oak-44-lumber-pack-12160.html

6 pc of red oak for $109 is pain

member when red oak was cheap 😔

[potent arrow]

He routed out the rectangle in the side panel, just slightly bigger then the inlay. Then he put it on a flat surface and centered the inlay. He then poured white resin arount the inlay. So it looks like it has a 1mm outline around it and holds it in place

[royal forge]

wow

thats p cool

(sounds like a lotta work)

[umbral moss]

nah, seems pretty easy

[potent arrow]

It's pretty easy lol

[umbral moss]

routing out a hole isn't that hard

[royal forge]

you're speakin to someone who doesn't have any of the hardware

[potent arrow]

Yeah especially if me and him both have access to a fucking tormach LMFAO

[royal forge]

or the space

[umbral moss]

I assume he didn't try to use his router on a steel panel though lmao

oh, you used an industrial machine

cheater

[potent arrow]

Bro

[umbral moss]

get outta here with your whole ass machine shop

[potent arrow]

Who do you think I am

It's the schools

IM NOT RICH

[umbral moss]

aren't you the weirdo who had a custom concrete foundation poured to drop some heavy machinery in your garage

[potent arrow]

Shh

[royal forge]

[potent arrow]

And rn the slab is being used for a lathe lol

Fuck I only have a single Dan a4 left

Aaargghhh should I order some even tho 4 series is closseee

Jfoekcnxks

[royal forge]

oh fuck yea

das some GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD shit

so what's ur problem

get a refund my dude

doesnt that suggest a hard drive?

oh

lol

i dunoe my dude

ur like

ship of thesus

[odd sand]

I want to make my own computer desk for my room, but I'm afraid to look at the sticker price of lumber still lol

Ice your system is just cursed. Are you sure you didn't get a power surge or something?

You've had more problems than like, all of my PC systems combined over the years.

[wide hill]

oculus gave me a 50$ store credit including the free replacement cable.

i think i just sold my 4 days of oculus log files

[odd sand]

The Hypixel Studios team has said in the Summer 2022 Development Update that Hytale won't be ready 2023. That means Hytale with come out 2024 or later.

We’re aware that some eagle-eyed community members have already spotted that we’ve stopped listing Java and C# in our job descriptions. This is because we’ve made the decision to redevelop Hytale’s engine—both the client and the server—in C++.

Yep. Confirmed. They're out of their fucking minds.

7 years into development they're deciding to redevelop the entire game in a new engine...

[wide hill]

never heard of the project before

looking it up on wikipedia

The developers are aiming to release the game on PC, consoles and mobile devices.

this is going to take an another 10 years aint it

[royal forge]

ye, i thought it was fucking weird

I remember everyone getting hyped for it

[wide hill]

the company behind the development of the Hypixel server in Minecraft.[10][11] Development of Hytale started in early 2015.[12] The idea for Hytale arose due to EULA changes by Mojang in 2014 which blocked servers from having microtransactions that affected gameplay, leading to an 85% drop in the Hypixel server's revenue

kindaa sounds like

they made hytale to be a cash-grab

[odd sand]

I don't think it was quite like that. I think it was more they were doing a lot of custom assets and development on their server

They were basically designing a new voxel game inside of minecraft, which takes time and money

But now they've fallen into the trap of being given access to a huge amount of resources and wanting to completely re-invent the wheel. Perfect is the enemy of Good.

[wide hill]

imagine wanting to make a game, but it be like
Unreal Engine: Epic bad
Unity: Unity Lead bad
Frostbite: EA bad
Java: Bad
Godot is the only one left i guess

[royal forge]

Ye. I saw some vids of their server

Its genuinely impressive

[potent arrow]

Dear lord how did the two stooges brick their machines

One of them has the worlds most broke ass laptop and the other has the highest end go for broke system

absolute ying yang of tech support destruction

End game of tech support

[royal forge]

In my defense, my laptop has been behavin these past few days

I hope i've not jinxed it

[hard drift]

Yeah it’s insane especially if 6x for memory

The memory alone will contribute so much heat

[odd sand]

This guy is trying to argue with me that buying a 1650 isn't a waste in 2022...

GPU with power levels considered budget 6 years ago

[hard drift]

Buying a 1650 is a waste even when it came out

[odd sand]

True, I meant as far as the levels of power it offers

It's better than a 1050ti but worse than a 1060

If all you want to do is play League or something though, then I guess its fine

[potent arrow]

I have a ton of 1650 for business use lol

because I hate intel igpu

[hard drift]

who doesn't

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-teases-ryzen-7000-cpu-series-annoucement-in-august 👀

soon ™️

[odd sand]

Intel 13th gen release rumored to be 3rd week of Oct

[hard drift]

now lets see how bad motherboard prices are

[odd sand]

Yeah... I'm hoping they're down a bit as the silicon shortage abates

[hard drift]

i doubt it, intel motherboards are usually expensive especially compared to amd

and with pcie 5.0/ddr5 going to be the competition points this generation i doubt they'll make it cheap for the higher support and such

[odd sand]

I mean, they jumped from 125 to like 215 going from 11th gen to 12th gen boards. I'd say there is room for prices to drop...

That was the price hike for the MSI Pro-A or whatever board between gens

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/game-pro-expert-korean-gif-9755972

[hard drift]

i'd say they'd jump even more probably another 50 or so

[odd sand]

Can always count on a show-off when you see someone at a con or arcade start bar-grabbing like that

[dull garnet]

i'm awful at ddr but i also grab like that

[potent arrow]

After four monsters I feel like an oc 3900x

[potent arrow]

There's no reason for Intel to price hike

They are way too expensive as is and they won't be able to compete if theirs boards get anymore expensive

[hard drift]

i mean if their new stuff is ddr4/5 compatible for the new motherboards they already have more grounds because amd is supposedly only ddr5 although it's always possible they'll do ddr4/5 like intel

[odd sand]

4 energy drinks in a row

Yeah I plan to carry over my B-die for now. I'll probably upgrade again with the 15th gen Tock and DDR5 will be more mature then

[hard drift]

i have shit ram so idc if i have to upgrade or not really

pretty sure it's hynix?

idk haven't checked in a while

[dull garnet]

Have a pic of my DDR1

[hard drift]

i still have my old ddr3

with the thick ass red heatsinks

[dull garnet]

DDR2

[hard drift]

where's the 3

[dull garnet]

Sold it because it still had value

[odd sand]

I don't remember how much I had for DDR1 memory. I had 4gb for DDR2 then jumped to 16gb for DDR3

[hard drift]

😔

[dull garnet]

Got a test stick

i used to run 4x2GB DDR2 on XP x64

[odd sand]

I think I might have had 1GB originally then next system had 2GB maybe

[hard drift]

I had 4 of these for ddr3

[odd sand]

Splurging on the 2133, fancy.

[hard drift]

It could never run that speed lmao

It was so damn unstable

[odd sand]

I wanna say I stuck with 1600 or maybe ran it at 1866

[hard drift]

It was always default speeds for my old motherboard

[hard drift]

It was my first pc dad got it for me

[odd sand]

That system is with my friends now, but the onboard USB is failing. I plan to sell them my current CPU/mobo when I upgrade and ill probably gift them a PCIe USB riser to keep the DDR3 system running

[hard drift]

[odd sand]

A NOS motherboard is like $150, but realistically the only issues with it atm are the USB being flaky and crashing. Although that could mean more problems are imminent

[dull garnet]

i have an h61 board with your name on it

[odd sand]

Actually that brings up a good point: If the onboard USB is failing, would a PCIe usb hub bypass that? Or is it still dependent on the root hub on the motherboard?

[hard drift]

pretty sure it's different

but don't quote me on that

[odd sand]

It's a 3770K and I think the current board is a Z77

[umbral moss]

isn't onboard usb handled by a separate controller if it's not on the chip PCH?

[odd sand]

No idea, that's why I'm asking here heh

[hard drift]

[odd sand]

It still amazes me how well 10yo CPUs still hold up today

Some of them, at least.

It helps that 3770K was their flagship consumer CPU at the time. Although maybe they had like a 3990XXXtreme or something but I don't really count that.

[umbral moss]

I'm only asking because I don't know if newer chips still use separate PCH, intel has been slowly folding everything from the board onto the chip

[odd sand]

The acronym PCH does sound familiar from BIOS options

[dull garnet]

they didn't

at least on that platform

[potent arrow]

Yeah

The newer chips use onboard PCH iirc

Yes they are onboard based on cursory documentation reading

[sly elk]

anyone here use a hyperkin retron of some sort? Thinking of getting one for my bro to replace that minigen lol

the retron 3 hd looks like it has a nice board, too

although ironically that poor guy who reviewed it, looks like the oscillator came off 😄

[dull garnet]

Trash

Get a mister

[sly elk]

those are quite expensive

and my brother is pretty hard set on using cartridges

for what a mister costs to build, I could buy a brand new genesis lmao

the funny thing is the price of a new genesis on ebay is about the same as the original price, adjusted for inflation

[dull garnet]

But with a mister you can play any genesis rom

or snes rom

[sly elk]

yea

I have a genesis mini because I bought it for him originally

he didn't like it lol

[dull garnet]

I only bought one of those mini consoles

The snes one, sold it for a small profit when I decided I didn't really care for it over my real sfc

[sly elk]

I have a snes mini too xD

I haven't felt compelled to sell them. TBH they're both sitting in the box right now since I was trying to clean things up to prepare for moving

the prices on ebay tend to be really solid for them lol

lol

i'd return the board

why not?

ugh!

so

it's a PCI issue, right?

like, you can't sidestep it by buying a PCI carrier board?

[hard drift]

intel issue

[sly elk]

like maybe https://www.amazon.com/Syba-Interface-Bandwidth-Bifurcation-Controller/dp/B08L8J3MBT
or https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-M-2-X16-V2-Threadripper/dp/B07NQBQB6Z

yea I admit

I got a good laugh about that

bottom one is blocked by your radiator?

even if you use a riser?

[hard drift]

smh, wanted triple rad and now suffering the consequences

[sly elk]

yea that sounds like a lot of NOPE

so out of curiosity

are you using RAID?

or just using the m.2s independent of each other?

ok

yea that sucks 😦 WTF

so basically the board only supports using one nvme?

question: does your locale not have laws about 15 day return policies?

or a way to strongarm asus?

idk what to suggest then

but empathy: I would be pisssseeedddddd

and like, calling asus daily to complain

mhm

raise hell

that board is not fit-for-purpose

[dull garnet]

you should just buy a ton of boards until one works

[sly elk]

i mean i think ice already went past his budget 😦

i guess this is one plus to x570 builds. tired and true tech. 😄

but seriously wtf

z690 has been out a while now

[hard drift]

Not everyone is doing what ice is doing

[sly elk]

I think the problem is they keep playing musical chairs with chipsets so they never mature the firmware enough

ice is using 3 SSDs on a motherboard with 4 m.2 slots?

what's so unusual about that?

I have 2 m.2 ssds in my build because that's all my board has slots for 😄

if I had another m.2 I'd fill it >>

[hard drift]

Isn’t his setup more than just the nvmes?

[sly elk]

ice has a 12900k and a 3090 on custom watercooling

aside from the watercooling it's a pretty standard (higher but not highest end) build

[dull garnet]

let me introduce you to the b450

[sly elk]

highest end doesn't really exist anymore >>

(threadripper, i9-x, etc)

[dull garnet]

it does but it exists in a 2 month vacuum

[sly elk]

ice should have a threadripper build lol

[dull garnet]

dat TR4

[sly elk]

or even x570 because even those have like 27 pcie lanes

the real problem here is the Z series' stupid PCH and intel being cheap with pcie lanes

[hard drift]

skill issue not going amd

[sly elk]

but it doesn't matter, what ice is doing is well within the specs of that board

it has 4 m.2 slots

[hard drift]

What board is it again?

https://rog.asus.com/support/FAQ/98404 is the only thing if you haven’t tried

Although it’s supposed to have nvme in that page smh

Damn asus

[odd sand]

I don't think any of them really use more than x4

[hard drift]

I mean if each is running off cpu then you have 16 for gpu and 12 for storage no?

[odd sand]

Doesn't the motherboard come with a few more as well?

[hard drift]

Should

But the website is dogshit

What’s the ***

[late basalt]

🤔

What was the issue Ice is having again?

[odd sand]

He has a technology black thumb

[late basalt]

His pc turns on still, so not really

[dull garnet]

spent too much on fans

[hard drift]

He needs prebuilt

[hard drift]

Fans and rads

And not enough on cables

[late basalt]

I mean, I do custom builds for myself too, but I’m not having issues like that

(Granted I don’t have to use nvme drives)

[hard drift]

Luck of the draw

[late basalt]

Or*

[hard drift]

First gen issues

This is why you go tried and true

This is why you research a ton before hand for new stuff/companies

[odd sand]

I've never had issues with Gigabyte Z boards, so I've stuck with them

[hard drift]

I learned my lesson doing first gen new stuff

[hard drift]

Yeah, i use gigabyte now instead of asrock

For that reason

[odd sand]

ULTRA DURABLE

[hard drift]

[odd sand]

Tenor is busticated, no my memes

[hard drift]

Rip

[dull garnet]

gigashite dab

[hard drift]

Hey, it does the job at half the price

[dull garnet]

this post was made by b450 tomahawk gang

[hard drift]

Lol, i mean that’s an amazing board but the one i have is also really good

Not a single issue

[dull garnet]

[odd sand]

I've used like 4 gigabyte boards in a row and never had a single issue so 🤷‍♀️

[hard drift]

i used msi before and it was unstable, same with asrock

Gigabyte is outdoing them

No led diagnostic light sadly on my board but it’s livable

[dull garnet]

excuse you

[hard drift]

[dull garnet]

lolwhat there's a 5700X now

[hard drift]

Yeah

[odd sand]

Its like on one hand, October for new CPU yay! OTOH ... that means summer is over by then, boo!

[hard drift]

Lol

I’ll have money saved by then

[dull garnet]

save money so you always have enough to build a fancy pc and then never do

take that big tech

[hard drift]

[sly elk]

o_O soooooo I'm lucky i don't have that problem with my board lol

though I've been saying for a while, asus software/firmware isn't that good

idk

i would've gone for evga myself

but idk if they're good with support on that sorta issue

[hard drift]

Evga motherboard

[sly elk]

heh actually, maybe not

I was thinking, US-based engineering/support

but it looks like only their support is based in the US.

[umbral moss]

so it remains a mystery how they managed to shit up an easy acquisition win

[umbral moss]

it's funny because abit was a good manufacturer before evga bought them

[hard drift]

Yeah 😔

[sly elk]

their gpu software is decent, though

man does that mean nobody makes a motherboard with reasonable quality firmware/software?

[hard drift]

It’s all hit or miss especially with lower end boards

[sly elk]

it's not surprising though

intel does a new chipset every other year, and to support either intel/amd you have to support a half dozen chipsets.

unless they get lucky and get an OEM deal with dell/hp/whatever, they're not making much profit probably after selling a few thousand boards per sku

[umbral moss]

https://i.imgur.com/YR5fPxV.png

why would you use anything but afterburner

[hard drift]

Afterburner 🤢 x3 is nicer or whatever it is

[umbral moss]

ab is ugly but it works and gives you more options to OC

the stats tracking is also mad powerful without giving your computer a severe case of herpes

[hard drift]

true

[umbral moss]

there's the specific vcore unlock function for the XXXTREME OC boards

which AB supports but evga doesn't

[sly elk]

idk

I have seen MSI come and go as a fan favorite

most of the time when people talk about it on reddit they complain about msi's customer service

[umbral moss]

afterburner works on any card though, you don't need to use an MSI card

they just bought rivatuner and changed the name

hell, it still refers to itself as rivatuner during the installation process

[umbral moss]

well, yeah, but RTSS isn't the only thing rivatuner did

afterburner is just RT but with an ugly neon green UI

all the skins are ugly though lmao

pure gamer aesthetic

[dull garnet]

...

Just put your video cards in the damn slot you weirdos

[hard drift]

Ikr 😔

[jaunty light]

no

ill be sure to buy the first wireless PCIe transmitter to spite you

[hard drift]

try making the slot pcie gen 4

since it'll make no difference

i mean, have you tested it?

lol

i mean going to 3 would be more of a bottleneck than 4 especially for a 3090

not like you need gen 5

welp guess you're trying 3

2 would literally make it pointless

you'd bottleneck your gpu so hard

you don't have to move it???

you can change the slot type in the bios...

ah

[novel venture]

Hello, im sorry to ask. How can i close ticket?

[hard drift]

in the #952326072542847016 ?

[novel venture]

Yes

[hard drift]

right click it or let it close on it's own over time i believe

[novel venture]

But staff asked me to close the ticket but i am not sure close it on mobile 😅😅

[hard drift]

oh wait is it a modmail ticket?

[novel venture]

Modmail ticket?

Maybe u can look the date 13 days ago

[hard drift]

it's archived, nothing to worry about as you can't close it yourself

[novel venture]

Oh thanks, i am just worried for seconds 😅

[hard drift]

no worries, all good

[hard drift]

nice

[odd sand]

ruh roh my middle mouse click is failing on my mouse finally. Wonder if I could open it and try to revive it

[sly elk]

yay!

[jaunty light]

if its an initialism in the bios and you dont know what it stands for, just set it to "disabled" !

"C" states obviously stands for commie, and as part of america's hat you cannot let that be enabled!

[sly elk]

That F350 towing the horse trailer is almost guaranteed to be a diesel motor. I don’t even think they make a gasoline F350 anymore. Going rate for diesel is around $5 per gallon here in Texas. So the math is even worse. But also, to be fair, the F150 lightning only got 40 miles of range hauling a trailer in a recent test, sooooo......

welp, EVs are obviously a flop because the mileage sucks if you tow with them.

[jaunty light]

if it's an EV truck hell yeah they a flop

whole point of having a truck is towing or hauling

[odd sand]

It's a good thing 99% of people don't haul trailers with their trucks then

Or if they do, it's something dinky like a jetski

[sly elk]

99% of people who buy a truck that was designed to haul trailers, never actually haul a trailer with their truck

[jaunty light]

not sure i'd go that far

99% of people that buy 150/0 class yeah

less for 250/0, even less above that

[odd sand]

Okay, but those people aren't the ones in the market for an EV truck

[sly elk]

true

i always figured nobody buys the 250

[odd sand]

I would still argue that a not insignificant portion of the people buying a 250 still never haul a trailer, they just have small dick syndrome

[jaunty light]

depends on what it is my neighbor has a 250 and huge 5th wheels, most would opt for a 350 instead for a better ride

[sly elk]

yea that.. actually makes a lot of sense

but still goes with what I was thinking 😄

the people I've known who had an f-250 were the kind to actually use them for the things they were meant for

(you really don't want that kinda person as a next-door neighbor in a regular residential neighborhood - if they operate their business out of their garage)

if they do, RIP sleeping in on weekends

because you're gonna wake up at 6am on a a saturday whether you like it or not

[jaunty light]

ppl underestimate what a typical vehicle can do and think they need a fat 8L v8 to tow a few feet of toy hauler when they don't, but if you do it more than once a month just bite the bullet

the ride is so shit if I tow over like 3000 it's unbelievable

plus wear on parts/brakes

[sly elk]

yea

[jaunty light]

I'd never be in the market for a fucking 250+ class though I'm not paying $85000 for a base trim truck

[sly elk]

and I say all this and it sounds like I hate people that do that stuff but I don't, not at all

idc if someone drives a prius or an f350

if they're a nice person

that's the catch. if you drive your car like a sociopath imma hate it even more if it's a giant pickup

[jaunty light]

truck drivers get shit tbf it's 50% truck 50% suv

[sly elk]

out here over the last 10 years or so I'd say a lot of the bmw driver douches became truck douches

[odd sand]

I'm also fond of ppl taking out trailers with 9" wheels rated for 50mph that were sitting in one spot for 9 months and doing 80mph with them

[sly elk]

you can tell by the way they drive

[odd sand]

Then busting their shit all over the highway and leaving them abandoned on the side of the road

[sly elk]

lmao

[jaunty light]

the wildcard are people with 15+ year old cars that have flaked paint

[sly elk]

to this day, the most egregious driving I've ever seen on I-5 was.. a u-haul truck u-hauling ass at speeds I didn't think were possible in a u-haul

it was one of the small 10ft ones

but that sucker was moving

[odd sand]

We had a midsized one with the front-axle car trailer that we accidentally got up to like 80mph a few times driving cross-country

I-70 thru the Rockies will do that lol

[sly elk]

yea I don't know how they did it, but that thing was doing at least 100

maybe 90. it was more than 80

[jaunty light]

vtec kicked in

[sly elk]

and I didn't even think they could

[jaunty light]

they became ungovernable

[odd sand]

Maybe it was mostly empty

[sly elk]

maybe

[boreal surge]

And people wonder why manufacturers are considering electronic limiters.

[sly elk]

i've also seen the people who like weave through traffic doing 100 when everyone else is doing 80 and then we all get a laugh when they're pulled over a few miles later

oh yea

they probably have those goodyear delivery truck tires that are known to go ka-boom if you do >50mph

[odd sand]

Yeah that's when you just keep your lane and speed and let them do their shit

[boreal surge]

The ones goodyear got sued over?

[odd sand]

Only exploding tires I knew about were the old Ford Explorer/Escape tires that bankrupted Bridgestone was it?

Which was actually fucking Ford's fault bc they were warned they were insufficient for those vehicles and Ford said shutup take my money

[sly elk]

dang this is amusingly good

https://youtu.be/4e0fRKHG7Hk?t=2089

kinda crazy they can draw a video with text that way lol

the rocket one is kinda hard to make out though

[sly elk]

geeez

More than 25,000 model-year 2021 Ford Broncos with the 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 could suffer total engine lockup while driving, NHTSA says.

[jaunty light]

dats totally normal

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-fire-on-fire-car-problems-explosion-gif-13197574

https://tenor.com/view/fail-heavy-break-fall-epic-gif-15238037

https://tenor.com/view/toyota-gif-21916776

[sly elk]

corooooollllaaaaaa

https://tenor.com/view/deja-vu-anime-car-gif-24099480

https://tenor.com/view/hyacinth-bucket-keepingupappearances-roll-bentley-gif-12942809

[merry dune]

does anyone know how to fix this

[deep sapphire]

@jaunty light

[potent arrow]

isnt that just the error whenever you close the game

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/shopping-woman-mall-shop-til-you-drop-gif-19449457

[umbral moss]

trucks are a bigger flex because they cost as much as a BMW for the XXXTREME OFFROADAN package and get worse fuel economy

what better way to show off what a rich prick you are than to buy a new F150

[deep sapphire]

Yes and no, a truck still has way more practicality than a luxury car

Sure most people don’t need a truck but if you do it’s nice you can spec one to have luxury options

[umbral moss]

the raptor is like $150k

I can probably count the number of people who will actually take the thing off road on one hand

also, "luxury" in trucks is like, "has seats" lmao

comparing the top-line options in an F150 to like, an aston martin is wildly different

[deep sapphire]

Have you seen a top trim truck? It sure looks a lot better than that

Easily comparable in luxury to a comparable priced luxury car

Obviously it’s not going to be an Aston Martin but that’s 6x the cost

[potent arrow]

this is suffering

15 fps

pain

cringe

[hard drift]

I fucking hate windows smh

I turned on my pc, entered my password to login on right as i hit enter, blue screen

[glossy timber]

Windows is dog ass

Just gave me a whoopsy blue screen and is now updating

Smh

Linux gaming soon

[jolly sinew]

that black UI interface reminds me so much of second life ui

[outer sand]

what I thought the camera has face recognition? ._.

so you don't have to type the password anymore

at least that's what my surface default setting is

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire

[odd sand]

That's what I would do a lot in my Saturn and Mazda since they were both manual. Remember coming back from tahoe and everyone else was laying on their brakes constantly and I was just throwing it in neutral or engine braking gently instead. They must have thought my brake lights were out or something

[umbral moss]

you need a specific kind of camera to use windows hello

[umbral moss]

poggin

at least EVs let you use regenerative braking to simulate engine braking

[jaunty light]

Nuggies

[hard drift]

amd made something like rtx voice but it also has a feature to reduce background noise from other peoples microphone

already lost points 😔 it is terrible to use with something like a go xlr mini 😭 you have to set your output to a specific thing 😭

[dull garnet]

owned

[hard drift]

i mean if i just had everything on a single output it'd be fine

but i don't 😭

[sly elk]

The problem is luxury is a moving target

[deep sapphire]

Well, take a Silverado high country. Has super cruise, premium materials, tons of technology and features and it can be had for 68K

I agree that luxury is subjective but it’s not just “nice seats” lol

[sly elk]

Yeah true

Super cruise is very luxurious lol

Meanwhile

I need to wash my Jeep

[deep sapphire]

Fuckin was driving home last night a bee or something smacked into my hand and flew into my seat and I found that fucker clinging onto my ass barely alive

[deep sapphire]

Rofl nice

You don’t drive much I take it

[sly elk]

You took it correctly

I cleaned the spider web off

Sometimes they get crazy on the spare tire

I still think it’s amusing you can get Jeeps with stitched leather dashboards

[modest moss]

<@&607647345936695316>

[sly elk]

It’s funny because in most modern auto cars, doing that is really easy

[hard drift]

🤢

Tech mentors 😭

[odd sand]

I dunno about that... you don't have any control over how it approaches engine braking and it definitely won't go into neutral on its own. Also if you want to control the shifting you can maybe find a transmission mode that comes close to your needs. Otherwise if you're in adaptive cruise that uses the brakes constantly to regulate speed, so that would be no good trying to save your brakes on a mountain.

It will engine brake, but the rate of deceleration is whatever it feels like instead of picking the exact gear to keep with the flow of traffic without having to press the gas or brake

[sly elk]

in my cars manually picking a gear will keep it there unless it can't

works fine for engine breaking

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-ryzen-9-7950x-7900x-ryzen-7-7700x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-processors finally not just 7800x at the start(hopefully) since the 700 vs the 800 is basically just overclocked 😭

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

i wonder what that 7950x will cost

[hard drift]

probably 900-1000

[agile roost]

😳

sorry to hear that bud hope you feel better

[umbral moss]

it's my favorite line item on the F150 upgrade sheet

going from bench seat to bucket seat

✨ luxury ✨

[royal forge]

So how come you guys get tech mentor tags while @tame fulcrum and I dont get Tech Curser tags

Ye

Its like our "I'm special" hat

Hows ur pc comin along btw

Found the problem?

Ooo

LMAO

Its always the fuckin bios

But at least ya figured it out

👍

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-among-us-skill-issue-killer-bean-gif-24855216

[odd sand]

If you engage paddle shifting, sure. That's not really in automatic mode tho imho

[odd sand]

That sort of thing is easily spotted by ppl though and as you said its always proof of concepts. What data could they know the exact location of on anyones system that would be worth that effort

spectre/meltdown have been around for years now tho and nothing like that has been found so it cant be that much of an issue

And anti-cheats are generally easy to workaround even without doing sidechannel attacks

[novel venture]

Hello, can I ask how to fix bluetooth devices are not found in
"Add Devices" list and even cannot able to connect the old one?

Here what i tried until now,

1. I tried to restart pc for several times.
2. I opened the BIOS and restored the pc condition before my bluetooth is working normally.
3. I ran cmd code [sfc/scannow].
4. I ran cmde code [DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth].
5. I tried to reinstall the bluetooth drivers from "Devices manager"
6. I tried the troubleshooter and it said "Problem found => Check Bluetooth radio status => fixed"

Altho i tried those above, bluetooth didnt come back ;w;

[novel venture]

yes, all updated. i even used "snappy driver software" to make sure all drivers are updated

[sly elk]

I think it's totally asinine my jeep doesn't have paddle shifters

like wtf

YOU CAN BUY CVT NISSANS WITH PADDLE SHIFTERS DUDE

[umbral moss]

yeah, but it also breaks the transaxle real fuckin quick because nissan's CVTs have no torque capacity

[sharp star]

I am about to go Office Space on my mom's HP printer

[sly elk]

is it an HP inkjet?

[sharp star]

YES

[sly elk]

THAT IS THE ONLY THING TO DO WITH HP INKJETS

I've owned a total of 3 hp inkjet printers in my life

[outer sand]

what, why? are they good?

[sly elk]

No.

[outer sand]

I thought those cartridge are waste of money, lol

ic ic

[agile roost]

paddle shifters on a jeep...

[sly elk]

HP inkjet cartridges have this crazy design that makes no sense

[agile roost]

can't say i've heard that one before

[sly elk]

where the ink is in a vacuum sealed chamber

so they're very expensive and nearly impossible to refill

[outer sand]

ic ic

[sly elk]

i also don;t like how they sound, and all 3 were very prone to having paper jams

[odd sand]

I basically always use them in sport mode otherwise the shifting is kinda janky. Sport mode auto it will never go into 8th gear. It sits in 7th which just wastes gas. It also likes to rev really high before shifting, which would be fine if I were actually racing but is overkill even for highway onramps most of the time. If I let the turbo spool im at like 90 by the end of the onramp which is... excessive lol

[sly elk]

?

yea every car is different hehe

[umbral moss]

why would it go into the final gear when it's a cruise gear that has no torque multiplication

underdriven to hell for fuel efficiency

[odd sand]

Obviously I don't sit in 8th gear if I need to pass ppl...

[umbral moss]

no, my point is that the sports mode won't select it since it doesn't have any accelerating power

[odd sand]

Generally if I'm going a longer distance I'm using adaptive cruise in ecomode bc why not. But if I'm in town I'll usually stay in sport mode bc sometimes you need to cut over before some dingus not paying attn cuts off your lane change by not matching speeds, etc.

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[odd sand]

I think what I need to do is read into the manual on how to setup the Custom mode bc currently I think only sport mode has the active suspension. So if I could get Comfort mode + the suspension that would be ideal

[umbral moss]

I doubt the ECU will let you do that

it's like the drag launch mode for EVs

[odd sand]

Hence reading the manual bc I don't know what Custom is for atm

There is also a Smart mode which is 🤷‍♀️

I think it probably goes between Eco and Comfort depending on acceleration needs

[umbral moss]

from what I recall on other cars with adaptive suspension the only mode that uses aggressive valving and damping is "sport"

the others prefer softer valving

[odd sand]

sport mode is fun on the highway around here tho bc there are a couple mergers that do like a 90 degree banking to the left followed by 45 to the right, and you can just fly through that at like 75 np in sport mode while everyone is in the other lane poking along at like 55

I could take it even faster I imagine, but I'm not trying to be a BMW driver /s

[umbral moss]

I haven't had a chance to really flex the subaru because there's too many people who believe the speed limit is 30 in a 55+

the highest I've gotten is 110 on a straight

[odd sand]

Ah yeah you're out in NYC so I imagine its tough.

I never tried to push it when I was in Cali but I could have bc the I-5 in the interior has fuck-all for traffic

I really wanted to go to a track day at Laguna Seca bc I lived like 15mins from there, but I never got around to it before I moved.

I wanted to take a track training class first so I knew what to expect and not bust up my car

[umbral moss]

my ISP offers 5gbit internet

$180/mo

[odd sand]

How would you even know? No way in hell any speedtest gives you that much bandwidth to one connection. Probably would test to like 500/35 still lol

[odd sand]

I need to talk to ATT. Ever since I got it installed ive never got more than 35mbps up. Maybe I can try connecting directly to their combo modem and see if its somehow my router

[real edge]

toasty

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-nicktoons-nickelodeon-animation-gif-16276468

[umbral moss]

I think there's no way to test it in a serial application, but having multiple devices streaming 4k will definitely do it

[hard drift]

rip old igpus

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i7-13700k-and-core-i5-13600k-tested-higher-performance-with-higher-power-consumption ddr5 might actually be required to make these processors good

[sly elk]

ha that reminds me

apple is dropping support for CPUs without AVX2 on osx ventura

surprised intel would be considering a 2 year old processor 'legacy' now

damn. they must be desperate for that corporate money.

[hard drift]

well they didn't really do anything for igpus until 11th gen and up

[sly elk]

i always thought of AMD as the more sheister-y x86 CPU producer

but I think the problem here is intel and AMD don't value R&D enough

[hard drift]

why's that?

[sly elk]

cpu design has never had a rep as a lucrative career field

i wonder what we'd get if intel was like google and showered their cpu devs with money and benefits and made everyone wanna go work there

[hard drift]

i think we might see more of that once intel opens the US fabs

might atleast help but who knows

[sly elk]

That or some Chinese arm rip-off ends up taking the market by storm lol

[hard drift]

i doubt that time will come

[sly elk]

I feel like such a feat would still be 10 years off at least

[real edge]

OP

[spring anchor]

So I put a post on tech support waiting to see if anyone knows what to do, but I'll leave it here in case someone has the brains for this xD

A while back my ping jumped to 230 permanently from 45ish. I don't know what happened, I didnt change isp, my equipment was checked by my isp and everything seems fine with it.

I leave here a trace route I did to light European servers.

[muted frigate]

I need some help...
I updated my steam today and suddenly my DualSense stop working for FF14 (which I launch through Steam) and any other game while steam is on the background. Has anyone seen this?

Tried this, still doesn't work

It's weird because if I close Steam and restart the controller, it works for other games out of steam

[latent grotto]

Do you have generic gamepad config support on? Try turning that off maybe?

[umbral moss]

saw an article about this last week, talking about how electrical engineering is dying

there's very few people left who know how to actually make the silicon bobbins, but a shitload of people who can write code for them

[odd sand]

Does just raising salaries for EE help, or do they need to maybe specially promote EE at some top schools I wonder

[umbral moss]

salaries is part of it

the other part is that being a hardware EE is fucking hard and most people won't want to do it

when they can make $loadsamoney eating fries like a toddler on a stream

making transistors is equal parts material science, electrical engineering, and black magician

[odd sand]

Yeah, especially at the tech levels we're hitting where you probably aren't even tasked with designing a whole chip anymore. You get to design a tiny fraction of one feature on the chip

[boreal surge]

Someone had a convo about EE in another server couple days to learn, my take is that a good reason is that it’s a PITA to learn

Like what documentation? What easy help? What software that isn’t such complete crap that it actually swears you off the field?

[umbral moss]

as an EE you are making the documentation

you're starting from physical principles and designing the hardware

[boreal surge]

And on top of that if you ain’t in the first world job opportunities are limited

[umbral moss]

nobody writes the doco until you finish the product lmao

[boreal surge]

Bruh I’m talking about the documentation for the software used to design the product

Like fuck Xilinx.

[umbral moss]

oh god yeah

but xilinx is for fpgas

I'm talking about the actual bobbins that make the FPGA

[boreal surge]

I had to take an FPGA class for college and it was also taken by those studying CE/EE

[umbral moss]

you get to have an even more tiresome design process where you need to talk to the shitty ass lithography machine software in order to make the silicon bits to make the stupid FPGA chip

hardware engineering is suffering

get paid $100k a year to do 5x the work of someone working from tahiti for google and making $350k a year

[boreal surge]

But point is, if the tools for the prototyping stage is an ass, image every other stage

[umbral moss]

I want remote work or I quit

• someone who doesn't work in hardware manufacturing

[boreal surge]

Also as I said, don’t ask me to try find EE/circuit design work in Jakarta

And the last point I had in that previous conversation is are we even designing new chips on a widespread basis or is every device manufacturer just grabbing off the shelf components?

[umbral moss]

the duopoly of amd/intel has kind of shoved transistor design off the table

you're making something for TSMC/samsung or you work for intel

[boreal surge]

And there you have it, why bother taking EE when you can take something easier that pays a lot better and has more opportunities, or just doesn’t require as much structured thought.

[odd sand]

ATM they're just making shit bigger imho.

[umbral moss]

uh, yeah, obviously lmao

[odd sand]

Current desktop CPUs for Intel are now the size of workstation/xeon chips were a few years ago

[umbral moss]

that's literally what the issue with hardware EE is

[boreal surge]

Moore’s law?

[umbral moss]

it's hard as fuck and nobody wants to do it anymore

[odd sand]

EE I guess is a bit like being an engineer for space launch: If you wanna do it, you just have to move to where the work is

[umbral moss]

yeah, pretty much all semiconductors work that way

lasers are the same thing

there's no WFH for laser engineering, you have to physically touch the laser

[boreal surge]

And the fact there’s a physical limit to how little of a voltage difference between an on and off signal on a transistor before you start introducing errors?

[umbral moss]

electromigration is your biggest enemy, yeah

[modest moss]

this is true, my 12700k is a big lad and Noctua made me put 5 blobs of paste on it

[odd sand]

darn illegal migrants

Just tunneling wherever they please

[late basalt]

No Ed, that’s how workplace accidents and worker’s comp claims happen

[umbral moss]

if you laser yourself in the face that's on you

we give plenty of safety equipment and training

[late basalt]

And then there’s going to be that one guy doing a Tiktok challenge

[potent arrow]

I've had some try adjusting a mirror on a 30W CO2 laser cutter while the beam was active:|

[late basalt]

Isn’t there SPECIFICALLY A SETTING FOR THAT?

Like an “adjustment/focus mode” or w/e?

[umbral moss]

30W CW laser lmao

my current test bench is cranking 100W of CW single mode output

and it's not even maximized yet

this is a shitty rough draft

[potent arrow]

LISTEN IM NOT A FREAK

[boreal surge]

Is it really not possible to operate the machine remotely or is it just a no one has tried thing?

[potent arrow]

This motherfucker stopped the gantry servos and started to fiddle with the alignment for no reason

[umbral moss]

how do you put the mirrors in and align them

you're thinking about things as a user, not the manufacturer

the hardware you use has to be assembled by someone and that person can't work from home

while you get to eat doritos and order ubereats with your cushy programming job

[boreal surge]

By the way I havent touched the doritos for awhile

[potent arrow]

The honest answer is, it's because EE is interesting and branches out into a million different things. I could work in IOT (blegh), embeded implementations, rf design, RND etc.

[boreal surge]

I mean I know that the hardware has to be assembled by someone or something, the problem being I don’t know whether the assembly can be performed by remotely operating a machine.

[umbral moss]

the target spec is 55+W of directed UV radiation

[potent arrow]

Christ

[umbral moss]

single mode, 15-18ns pulse width

[potent arrow]

[boreal surge]

Also fresh food is better than uber eats

[umbral moss]

the single mode part I already landed and I'm close on power, but the roundness is junk and I haven't figured out why yet

[potent arrow]

Try getting the costs down to get someone to remotely operate something as intricate as that task, then it can be done remotely.

[potent arrow]

Optics are so out of my field lmfao

[umbral moss]

I got a C in optics lmao

[potent arrow]

I'm focused on embeded systems rn

[umbral moss]

I'm doing 100% of this by feel

[boreal surge]

I’m mainly basing my opinions on one FPGA class, I pretty much have no idea what actually needs to be done to actually manufacture a board

[potent arrow]

"I got a c in "subject"" and "I'm doing this by feel" is the ultimate engineering mood lol