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noble coyote
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Waaay way back I used a great "royalty-free" music composer named "Juke Deck"
I think 10 Cent bought it - and buried it!!!?

bitter hearth
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this was fun making with voice and lip sync with DD Lightning checkpoint

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the sound effects are nice its super deep

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some real bass

kind siren
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Tips for setting this better to get more interesting results?

bitter hearth
bitter hearth
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I clonded the voice with coqui TTS and the a voice over guy that does all the big movies called Red Pepper

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I'm afraid best results require more steps and its hard to get around that

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if you want to squeeze more out of low steps, UniPC 15 steps beta scheduler is ok

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again with low CFG, often 3

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DPM++ 2M at 20 steps is good though

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but switch to karras or beta

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these voices are nice yeah

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and thats the finished cloned

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coqui TTS I should try this

kind siren
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Thanks guys.

Here's my current setup:

bitter hearth
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yeah that should be good

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IDK about the denoise number though

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that's situational

bitter hearth
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just be aware that the required % denoise might change, when other settings change

kind siren
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What exactly does the denoise thing do?

bitter hearth
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this is my cloned Morgan Freeman sounds just like him

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denoise is for image to image

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if you are doing text to image then you want to leave it at default

kind siren
bitter hearth
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for image to image, the more denoise, the more the image will change

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what do you have going into the latent input?

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if its create empty latent then you need denoise = 1

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this looks a lot like you denoised an empty latent half way

kind siren
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What do you mean with latent input?

mortal mesa
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they are trying image2image

kind siren
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what is the "latent input"?

bitter hearth
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Morgan Freeman tells you about how he is addicted to Dream Diffusion Checkpoints lol

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into the Ksampler is a pink noodle

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whats the pink noodle going to

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its plugging into latent_image

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I need to know if its going to a VAE encode node or to a create latent node

kind siren
bitter hearth
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ooh this is img to img

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okay

kind siren
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yeah im doing img2img

bitter hearth
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you may have to try different denoise values

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cos this is kinda the hard part

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predicting which value will work

kind siren
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question: When I load an image... and I keep changing it again and again with prompts.

It works based on the latest image it generated?

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Or does it always start from scratch from the original loaded img

bitter hearth
bitter hearth
kind siren
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yeah

bitter hearth
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you can go back to 20 if you want but I like more

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ouch

kind siren
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Going back to my quesh::

bitter hearth
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is that aflux model he is using ?

kind siren
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Does it alter always the original loaded image

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or does it keep changing based on the images it starts to change

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does my question make sense?

bitter hearth
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no I don't quite get it

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I can explain though

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if the original input image is always the same, then it will only change if the seed changes

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unless you are using a sampler with "SDE, a or ancestral" in the name

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thats the most optomised way

kind siren
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Ok

So I load an image

then I tell prompt: change it this way

now it generates a changed image

now I tell it now change this thing.

Will it make the changes based on the change image, or will it make the new changes based on the original img

bitter hearth
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steps between 20 and 30

kind siren
bitter hearth
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keep your schudular as simple and not normal

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if you want it to change the new image
you have to load that new image and then put it into vae encode

kind siren
bitter hearth
kind siren
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Isn't there a search feature for this?

bitter hearth
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for what?

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double click for search

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oh i see what you meant , thought you was searching for somthing particular

kind siren
sacred jewel
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in a short two weeks time, there are over 200 LoRAs for Flux on CivitAI alone... INSANE!! (may be more... I gave up scrolling lol)

bitter hearth
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200 lora is a lot
given its not that cheap to train

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200 undertrained waste of space loras , made to earn buzz

sacred jewel
noble coyote
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My favourite Flux LoRAs - rbcharc0al, Blue Future, Pop Art, Art Nouveau, Impressionism (landscapes only), Metallic, Vintage Anime ...

sage burrow
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Well this looks useful

noble coyote
noble coyote
kind siren
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I added three new nodes

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now I have to connect them to everything else!

noble coyote
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Does Load Image automatically replenish at the start of a new Queue?

kind siren
bitter hearth
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Thats all Civitais doing , Making a rod for there own back as encouraging users to make merges and loras that they have no clue about. Yes there are developers on there making them correctly . but 70% of them are all undertrained and not doing as they are intended. Its a buzz race as they beleive they will earn money from it.... Which I can from personal experience on Civitai tell you , You cant. Only people on civitai making any real return are the big hitters with checkpoints promoted on the site generarator such as juggernaut and such like. I was the highest grossing buzz creator that wasnt on the site generator with 7 months of working on there. In that 7 months I accumulated 65k Buzz. thats translates to a cash price of $35 .....

sacred jewel
sage burrow
bitter hearth
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And when i won the Civitai community Checkpoint favorite, Civitai hated the fact they had to pay me 100k buzz. 2 days later Civitai banned my account and took down all my 32 models and and removed my 2000 followers. And took mback there 100k buzz... So no I dont have any time for that site

bitter hearth
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I would never tip and merged checkpoints buzz on civitai, I highly tipped buzz to the trained checkpoints tho

kind siren
bitter hearth
kind siren
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Like, I created these three new sections:

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So how do I connect this to everything else

bitter hearth
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do you want the complete workflow ready to mate ?

kind siren
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yeah!!!!!

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that'd be amazing

bitter hearth
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tap the download on the right , save it to your pc, then clear your comfy work sheet, then hit load. and choose this file where you saved it to . ok

kind siren
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ok lemme see

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Great!

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I have it now! ๐Ÿ™‚

bitter hearth
kind siren
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Im getting this error:

bitter hearth
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make sure the nodes are set as mine are to get started then you can adjust them as you learn

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right that is telling you the vae and such are not saved to the correct folders

noble coyote
sage burrow
torn wharf
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I'll report csam on civit and they'll only take down one image. They won't delete the person's account or any of the other images they make.

I know people deleting their accounts there because of how much csam they allow

bitter hearth
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clip name 1 shows as null. that should say T5xxxl

noble coyote
sacred jewel
kind siren
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Here's what I have:

sacred jewel
# noble coyote

BRO!!! You've been killing it... nice generations...

(I am not jealous ๐Ÿ‘€ )

๐Ÿ˜›

kind siren
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Last time I tried this, I got the error

noble coyote
bitter hearth
kind siren
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so what do I have to change this time to make it work?

kind siren
bitter hearth
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thats correct now mate

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Dice i think he is using sd3

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hit Queue prompt

kind siren
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I get this error when I use it:

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yeah I have SD3!

bitter hearth
torn wharf
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Make sure you select the right files. Those are still referring to his file names and locations

kind siren
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remember: my knowledge about how this all works is ZERO! haha

bitter hearth
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Alfonso check which model you are using... they work differently

kind siren
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I dont have t5xll that Im aware of

bitter hearth
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Your Vae should be in the Vae folder, Your clip_L and the T5xxl should be in the Clip_vision folder, And my checkpoint flux needs to be in the Unet folder

sacred jewel
kind siren
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I have this model:

sd3_medium_incl_clips.safetensors

mortal mesa
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you need to reselect then as yours might be in a different place or name than the ones he included in that workflow

bitter hearth
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t5 encoder wont work with sd3 models, or do they?

mortal mesa
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sure it does

bitter hearth
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im questioning cause i spent very little time with sd3 lol

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yes they do

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ahh ok

kind siren
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Ok, I dont have anything in my unet or vae folders.

kind siren
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ohhh ok ok !

noble coyote
kind siren
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Ok wait a sec! first I will download the files ๐Ÿ™‚

mortal mesa
kind siren
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Which of these should I install and where should I put them?

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I dont have stableSwarm I have ComfyUI !

bitter hearth
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download that t5xxl and a few up youll see clip_L also download that , save both to to your clip_vision folder

noble coyote
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D/load all of them and place in Clip folder

bitter hearth
errant dust
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They go into the Clip folder

bitter hearth
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dont need the 16fp

noble coyote
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Clip Folder is inside the Models Folder ...

bitter hearth
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i save mine to clip vision

errant dust
kind siren
bitter hearth
noble coyote
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I save across Clip/Clip Vision ...

errant dust
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My Clip Vision is empty

kind siren
noble coyote
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eau keigh

kind siren
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Ive downlaoded it here!

errant dust
bitter hearth
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not fully sure of the difference but made sence to add them to clip_vision and they both show up

noble coyote
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Arpillera for folk crafted colour

mortal mesa
kind siren
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nex t step is to download this: clip_l.safetensors to the clip folder??

errant dust
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Yes

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you need both the T5 and the clip_l

bitter hearth
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I renamed the Vae to flux Vae after adding to the folder save confussion

errant dust
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Same

kind siren
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Ok here they are:

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now what?

marsh rock
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How do i use sd on mobile?

errant dust
bitter hearth
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thats the vae you need to download and save to Vae Folder

errant dust
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or remotely connected to your PC

noble coyote
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She has a stranggge right leg!!!

marsh rock
bitter hearth
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i used the schell vae

errant dust
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it is the same

bitter hearth
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not sure never checked lol

noble coyote
bitter hearth
kind siren
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it says file isnt available!

errant dust
noble coyote
kind siren
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OK I GOT IT NOW

bitter hearth
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download that

kind siren
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I have my vae files

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and my clip files ready

bitter hearth
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cool do you have the flux hyper model downloaded ?

kind siren
bitter hearth
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down load that and save it to the Unet folder

kind siren
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k just a sec!

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creating account...

bitter hearth
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if you ever download any other flux model checkpoints always save them to unet ok

kind siren
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ok!

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Downloading into unet

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What would be the next step after this?

bitter hearth
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but you dont need to download all the flux model stuff as you now have all the parts required

errant dust
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if you have Comfy and a workflow in place

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just start her up and test

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see if anything 'breaks'

sacred jewel
kind siren
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Ok, waiting for download to fiinsh

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after this I just try the worlfklow u gave me, Dice?

bitter hearth
noble coyote
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Silly Old Hector

kind siren
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ok I will try soon

errant dust
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Any should be fine. Be suire to refersh though as some names mayu not match

sacred jewel
kind siren
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When this finishes downloading I'll let y'all know

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5 more mins

sacred jewel
errant dust
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if you see a node that says 'null' just click on it to what the the names of files it found and choose the right one

sacred jewel
kind siren
noble coyote
bitter hearth
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when you do your first generation it will take a min to start as its running the model, 2nd generation will be much faster

kind siren
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ok, great!

bitter hearth
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see you in 20 mins lol

kind siren
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So with this I'll be able to load an img and change it right? with a prompt I mean

kind siren
noble coyote
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Yes, it reads and processes the prompt first time round

bitter hearth
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not with that workflow but ill give you another workflow for img2img

errant dust
kind siren
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and with your workflow, Dice, can I also generate an image based on prompts only without using any loaded images?

errant dust
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and requires a special workflow

noble coyote
bitter hearth
kind siren
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ohh hok

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great!!!!!!!

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I'd just like an img2img and a normal prompt based workflow!

noble coyote
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I can never get Xflux IPAdapter working.
It always stall and hangs at X-Flux Sampler!!!

kind siren
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It looks like u gave me the normal prompt workflow, right?

bitter hearth
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if you want to save this while you wait to the same folder as you saved the first work flow. This workflow is the img2img for flux

kind siren
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grrr8888 !!

bitter hearth
kind siren
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Ok when Its done I will test first the normal prompt workflow

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Download FINISHED!

bitter hearth
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that was quick

sage burrow
kind siren
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Ok so. Im there

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im about to TEST this!

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First error appeared:

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this is just from pressing the queue prompt button

bitter hearth
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change the vae title in that node

noble coyote
errant dust
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Can you share your workflow for that ControlNet you showed yesterday with the Car frame and natural landscape overlay?

bitter hearth
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tap it and youll see the title of the one you downloaded

errant dust
kind siren
bitter hearth
noble coyote
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Yes but it does not appear in Manager

kind siren
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Now I get a different error

bitter hearth
kind siren
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new error!

errant dust
noble coyote
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Yes

craggy crest
bitter hearth
kind siren
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Ok it's more down now

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I moved it down

bitter hearth
errant dust
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WHere did you place your files? CLip or Clip Vision?

craggy crest
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it's looking for the T5xxl encoder and the clip_l encoder

kind siren
errant dust
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Try Clip

kind siren
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ok, will try

bitter hearth
kind siren
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Like subtleone suggested?

bitter hearth
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it will auto fill with a reload of workflow

bitter hearth
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clear your work space totally

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then load the workflow again

kind siren
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Ok, Ive reloaded the entire thing again

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Ive done it with: run_nvidia_gpu.bat

bitter hearth
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now are the nodes all filled in correctly

kind siren
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now it has loaded

bitter hearth
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they will auto fill

kind siren
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I go tthe same error!

errant dust
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press F5

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(browser refresh

mortal mesa
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click the t5 and clip l box in the red node and select them again, if they dont show up ,ove from clipvision to clip folder

kind siren
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When I click on the little white arrows I get "undefined"

mortal mesa
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after browser refres

errant dust
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right now it is using the saved workflow, meaning it is showing the values used to make the workflow, even if thge files are diffetrent

craggy crest
# kind siren

it can't find your encoders. click on each of them and see if they're even in the list. if not, make sure you put them in the right folders

mortal mesa
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refresh browser first to make sure

errant dust
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F5 will have it check to see if those files are even there

noble coyote
kind siren
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browser refre3shed

errant dust
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what does the DualCLip node show?

bitter hearth
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ok copy paste both your t5xxl and the clip-l to the clip folder

kind siren
errant dust
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Yes, means it must be in Clip

kind siren
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so move them to "clip"?

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ok wait!

bitter hearth
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try that yes

kind siren
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reloading server again! And it's finished!

bitter hearth
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mine maybe working different to yours as my comfy is the backend of swarm so mine had to go in clip-vision

errant dust
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hit refresh of course

craggy crest
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they go in /comfyUI/models/clip_vision

kind siren
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ok now it can find thgem

errant dust
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and then if you still see Null, which is normal, click on the nulll

kind siren
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it can find the clip files!

errant dust
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and it will show what files it sees in the folder

kind siren
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IT'S WORKING NOW!!!!

errant dust
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This last advice is useful because it applies even to new checkpoints, or LoRAs you add

kind siren
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It's working fellas!!!!

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Thanks everybody ๐Ÿฅณ ๐Ÿช…

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So now waiting for image to be generated

bitter hearth
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think ill make a youtube video of how to. As a lot of people dont know how to do this . think it would be helpfull?

kind siren
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OF COURSE!

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U should totally do a video about this

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it would benefit many

errant dust
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As long as it mentions.... (I WON'T say I told you so, I won't!) CLip

kind siren
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how long is this gonna take tho?

errant dust
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๐Ÿ˜›

mortal mesa
errant dust
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that will depend on your hardware

kind siren
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I see

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well my laptop is like from... 2021 or 2022

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hehe

bitter hearth
errant dust
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FOr me, it can take 3 mins, for some with RTX4090s, it takes seconds

kind siren
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I have GeForce RTX!

errant dust
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(I sport a laptop with a laptop 4060

kind siren
errant dust
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Yeah... believe me that is a VERY broad definition

kind siren
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Now it's in the "SampleCustomAdvanced" step

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quesiton. HOW DO I SAVE this configuration

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so I dont have to do this ever again.. Like I just open it up and it works

errant dust
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the first RTX was the 20xx series and could stoop to as 'slow' as an RTX2060 and that was in ... 2018 if memory serves

bitter hearth
noble coyote
errant dust
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THen the fastest was a 2080ti with 11GB VRAm. today the king is a RTX4090 with 24GB Vram

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and we are talking just the consumer GPUs

kind siren
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hey... so everytime i use this like.. .if i use it tomorrow. The first generation will also take a lot of time?

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like everytime I restart my laptop

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the time for generating the first image will be long always?

errant dust
bitter hearth
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mine renders in around 24 seconds

errant dust
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And we hate you for it

bitter hearth
errant dust
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lololol

bitter hearth
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if it wasnt my job id be on a potato pc waiting 5 mins lol

noble coyote
noble coyote
kind siren
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wow

errant dust
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Again, the question is what exact GPU you are using

kind siren
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welll for me it's like this so far

noble coyote
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I see there is a TensorRT for AuraFlow ...

errant dust
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Show the CMD line screen

bitter hearth
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you can always download the T5xxl fp16 version but id suggest having Vram of over 16GB otherwise you could hand draw the image quicker lol

kind siren
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a long ass time

errant dust
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it will show more precisely how fast or slow it is going

kind siren
bitter hearth
errant dust
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ok, when you open Comfy, it also opend a black screen

kind siren
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ahhh yeah

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the python thing?

errant dust
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outside the browser

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yes

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it will show a lot more info

bitter hearth
errant dust
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on the time it is taking and expecting

kind siren
errant dust
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oooooffff

kind siren
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like only the very very very first time ever I mean

errant dust
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The prognosis is not good. Do you know what exact GPU you have?

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RTX... what?

kind siren
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wait lemme see

bitter hearth
errant dust
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I only enjoy that if I don't change th prompt

bitter hearth
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as the model has to load up first

errant dust
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meaning a speedup

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BUT, bear in mind I am VRAM starved

kind siren
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ummm so how do I check my rtx thing?

errant dust
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so there is no way it is ever keeping it all in memory all the time

kind siren
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it's not in About this PC

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it's at 40% now

noble coyote
errant dust
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Ok, you have WIndows, right? In the search bar at the bottom, type sys

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it will suggest System Infomration. CLick that

bitter hearth
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clears all ram cache in 2 seconds

errant dust
bitter hearth
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frees up around 35GB of ram cache well certainly for me

kind siren
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doesnt mention anything about rtx

mortal mesa
errant dust
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Look, if that app can magically change my 16GB Ram machine into 35, I am jumping all over it

bitter hearth
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its only 2 mins long but will help 70% of you out

errant dust
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Look, clearing cache is not going to change how much RAM I have installed

bitter hearth
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no but will speed up your gens

kind siren
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Does having a lot of stuff on my laptop make it slower at generating images?

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if i had more free space would it be faster?

bitter hearth
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i use that app each hour im working

kind siren
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it's at 60% now!

errant dust
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Try this instead: Open the Task Manager

kind siren
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ok

errant dust
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Windows 10?

kind siren
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11

errant dust
bitter hearth
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if you want to clear all your pc of cache do Run box, type in run box Temp hit enter . Delete everything from that file. Do the same process but in the run box type %temp% and delete all files and again type Prefetch and then delete all file

errant dust
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on the left, click that icon you see

kind siren
errant dust
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As you can see it lists both my GPUs (this being a laptop

bitter hearth
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those files are all used and just glog your ram

errant dust
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ok, now click on GPU 0

kind siren
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it's nvidia geforce rtx 3060

errant dust
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How many GB of VRAM is that?

bitter hearth
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the next cache clear is a big one... Open CMD type in cmd line ipconfig /FlushDns hit enter

mortal mesa
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maybe install Norton

kind siren
mortal mesa
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no no dont lol

bitter hearth
errant dust
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@kind siren Ok, try this: go to this link and download the model into the Unet folder

kind siren
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k wait!

errant dust
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Use it instead as a litmus test

kind siren
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wait wait

errant dust
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no rush

kind siren
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ill wait for the img to finish!

bitter hearth
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dude he dont need another flux

kind siren
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it's at 80%

bitter hearth
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that will slow him down more

errant dust
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No it won't

bitter hearth
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his rtx 3060 will have around 20 GB Vram

errant dust
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What???

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lol

bitter hearth
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3060 have a vram of 20GB

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3090 have 24GB Vram

errant dust
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sigh

noble coyote
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Where can I get comfyui-tensorop? It doesn't come up in ComfyUI Manager?

bitter hearth
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plus his pc ram is already quite full

kind siren
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88% !!!

errant dust
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Ok, let's start with a few realities. a 3060 has EIGHT GB of Vram

kind siren
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92!

errant dust
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second the size of his file has zero to do with his RAM

bitter hearth
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pc ram mate

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88%

errant dust
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yes

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Zero

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he can download 20 files and it won't affect his Ram

bitter hearth
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he will want to keep his renders so with a low ram and multiple models he will fill that in no time

errant dust
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There is no correlation between the storage space and his system RAM

bitter hearth
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6GB to 10GB download per model

errant dust
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it is completely unimportant

kind siren
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image FINISHED!

bitter hearth
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of course it is

kind siren
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Ok so... How do I make this work faster?

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this toook to much time for it to be fun

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too***

errant dust
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Of course it isn't. If I download one terabyte of data tonight, guess how much that will impact my RAM usage. Can you say zero?

noble coyote
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Are u using kijai's Florence2 node

kind siren
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tbh if everytime I wanna use this my first render is gonna take so much

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i prefer an alternative!

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like a simpler setup I mean

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or something faster!

bitter hearth
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sdd 1 ter. download comfy ui, download forge, download auto1111, save 2000 renders, multiple models , mutiple extensions. without including an=ything downloaded outside of ai stuff. the 1 TB SSD will be filled in a matter of months

errant dust
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Alfonso, try the file I suggested. It may be as slow, but it is a known quantity for whcih one can more easily give you a baseline

kind siren
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hmmmm

errant dust
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Sidenote: did you have a lot of tabs or programs open?

kind siren
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ummm

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any alternatives that wont be as long?

errant dust
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It is hard to know. I have a laptop 4060, which will be faster than you, but not by a lot

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and defintely not the amount of time it took you

kind siren
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yeah but with a simpler setup it generated an image in less than a minute!

bitter hearth
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what rtx 3060 do you have ?

kind siren
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how do I check?

errant dust
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You already showed, we don't need to know

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he showed the screenshot

bitter hearth
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i didnt see that

sacred jewel
noble coyote
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Bad idea, I really need 4Tb!!!

sacred jewel
sacred jewel
bitter hearth
kind siren
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but not many

noble coyote
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I'm stuck with this Florence w/f ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

bitter hearth
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do you know how much cache spotify uses. its crazy delete you spotify cache in the loacl files

bitter hearth
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or the nodes

noble coyote
bitter hearth
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9 drives lol

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i have C and D thats it lol

noble coyote
bitter hearth
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partitioned C and D is all ai

sacred jewel
noble coyote
sacred jewel
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Synology NAS FTW...

sage burrow
bitter hearth
sacred jewel
kind siren
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Ok so let's talk about solutions

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For this to work faster,

Do I have to try a simpler workflow?

Do I have to try a different model?

What things can I do

kind siren
bitter hearth
noble coyote
bitter hearth
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that had me 2nd guessing for hours lol

sacred jewel
sacred jewel
bitter hearth
noble coyote
sacred jewel
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I have a feeling that Forge/A1111 handle this LoRA differently that Comfy. my output is very noisy compared to their examples which are very smooth.

noble coyote
bitter hearth
# sacred jewel

I need to try a lora on forge. I havent made any loras for flux as yet

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I made a lora for SD3 was a text and font lora as sd3 wasnt all it was made out to be with the texts

sacred jewel
bitter hearth
sacred jewel
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Seems to improve the noise issue if I lower guidance to 1.0 from my standard 3.5

bitter hearth
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if your on forge cfg scale 1 and distilled CFG scale 4

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see the cfg scales in that for example

sacred jewel
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Does forge work with full UNET Flux Dev and T5 16?

I don;t want to even play with all the 100 versions of FLux GGUF NF4, 8bit etc .etc . ... so confusing to me. ๐Ÿ˜›

bitter hearth
hexed dirge
bitter hearth
hexed dirge
bitter hearth
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ok ill try now

hexed dirge
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fine

bitter hearth
hexed dirge
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mmm really ? do you think it's the same???

bitter hearth
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thats with your prompt without any alterATION

hexed dirge
bitter hearth
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An horror zombie in a cemetery. He's sitting on a tombstone looking at the camera with pain.

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now ill alterate it

hexed dirge
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ah ok

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not use controlnet

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just prompt

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btw lora is just a shortcut

bitter hearth
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yes ill show you once done

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ok this is with only the wording black and white, next will be with the style

hexed dirge
bitter hearth
hexed dirge
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well it's good but so different

bitter hearth
sacred jewel
rain current
bitter hearth
sage burrow
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So how do I create Shnell loras?

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Y'all not prompting "by Dore'" enough ๐Ÿ˜‰

cunning lintel
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๐Ÿคก

bitter hearth
sacred jewel
bitter hearth
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i madse this prompt 3D papercut shadow box of A highly detailed drawing pf horror zombie in a cemetery. He's sitting on a tombstone looking at the camera with pain, long wet hair. trench coat, Black and white , dark shadows, dark background . layered, dimensional, depth, silhouette, shadow, papercut, handmade, high contrast

bitter hearth
bitter hearth
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Although i do like your art style @hexed dirge

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I truely belive with flux you dont need a lora unless its a custom charater lora. SDXL models love a lora . But flux not so much

sacred jewel
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I love it but only getting color...

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Let's crank it to 100 ๐Ÿ˜›

errant dust
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Could you share the workflow that made this?

noble coyote
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In which folder does florence 2 model go?

bitter hearth
# errant dust Could you share the workflow that made this?

you have asked for the only prompt and workflow id never share as its something im currently working on. But when its released ill share all made. Like i do with all my models , ill always share prompts and my workflows , just not on my current projects bro, sorry

bitter hearth
sacred jewel
hexed dirge
sacred jewel
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exactly the kind of crazy shit I love to generate ๐Ÿ˜›

bitter hearth
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anyone got a really weird lora i can try for flux. somthing a bit different

noble coyote
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LoRAs:- using Wraith B&W (0.8) with Blue Future (0.8) and Novel Illustration V1 (0.8), then BF (0.5) and NI (0.5), finally BF (0.3) and NI (0.3)

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Wraith B&W overwrites all other LoRAs (**NB)

noble coyote
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OK

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I'm removing the B&W keyword to see if the other 2 LoRAs can reassert themselves ...

hexed dirge
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blue is rank 2 while wraith is 8 or 16

noble coyote
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OK, so the lower ranked LoRAs will always be struggling ...

hexed dirge
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yes

bitter hearth
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I just gave up making loras when i finshed making SD3 likeness checkpoint on a SDXL base

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released that 2 months before SD3 was dropped

errant dust
bitter hearth
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And it still renders better than sd3 lol

noble coyote
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How do you get SD3 out of SDXL at all?

bitter hearth
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was a likeness its a SDXL turbo base but with the same capabilities as what was said SD3 would do

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turbo base model 100% trained

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they were the prompts that were advertised by stability ai for SD3 before they released it

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I said i think the turbo base sdxl model trained correctly would be better than SD3. They said no way. So I did it

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That model went on to win Civitai Community vote for best checkpoint

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The text and adhereance was never matched by any SDXL checkpoint

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I wont be told that something cant be done... When i know it can . So had to prove them wrong

bitter hearth
noble coyote
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Ah! At 0.5, the Wraith B&W lets the other LoRAs thru ... no B&W keyword in the prompt - Blue Future and Novel Illustration LoRAs at 0.8

B&W Wraith at 0.8, 0.5, 0.3

bitter hearth
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still no SDXL checkpoint can render that image on the likeness model

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feel free to try here is the prompt four wine bottles lined up on a table. from left to right, they are numbered "4" then "3" then "1" then "2". from left to right, they are red, blue, green, and orange. the background is a rose field

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flux obviusly walks it , but no SDXL checkpoint can

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The funniest thing was that prompt was advertised that SD3 would do before they released it. And SD3 even struggles to get that right

noble coyote
bitter hearth
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all created with a SDXL properly trained model

noble coyote
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Try Metallic

bitter hearth
bitter hearth
noble coyote
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Metallic LoRA on Civitai

bitter hearth
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for flux?

noble coyote
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Yes

bitter hearth
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got a link to any other website other than civitai?

noble coyote
bitter hearth
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I have a matallic lora i made for SDXL

noble coyote
bitter hearth
bitter hearth
noble coyote
bitter hearth
bitter hearth
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flux taking it like a walk in the park

noble coyote
bitter hearth
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here is a great example of stability ai advertising SD3 text adherence

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here is SDXL Turbo SD3 Likeness with there prompt

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even there own advert couldnt quite get stable correct

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Its remarkable that a company as big and wellknow as |Stabilty ai cant 100% train there own work.

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Its like why download SD3 when it came out with hardly any ui to run it on, Huge GB to download, seperate dependancies, when I fully trained SDXL does the exact same thing with a 1 click download , runs everywhere and 6GB download. Just amazes me

sacred jewel
noble coyote
sacred jewel
hexed dirge
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oh so you're using without B&W trigger

noble coyote
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To see how it affects the overall look

hexed dirge
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yes it works

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with good style

noble coyote
errant dust
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I really like the colors

sacred jewel
sacred jewel
hexed dirge
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the trigger is B&W. I'm going to change metadata now

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changed

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btw with B&W it comes out black and white , without in color but keeping the style

errant dust
sacred jewel
dry wave
errant dust
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huh

hexed dirge
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b&W only dataset

sacred jewel
hexed dirge
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also you can specify a color and maybe that image comes out like this :

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also using the trigger, but telling the color

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red roses

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purple dress

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red eyes and so on

bitter hearth
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That was made 2 years ago buddy

hexed dirge
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this was just unexpected

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I used only B&W train dataset

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and my purpose is B&W images

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but it also give this effect writing a color

bitter hearth
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I used only B and W data set to

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this is the lora propmt for example a rose, (Black and white image, Blue Accent)

hexed dirge
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the strange ai ways

bitter hearth
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A glass sphere sculpture, concealed inside the sphere is a Ninja Warrior, Fantasy, in the dark, detailed image, 8k high quality detailed, the moon, shaped sphere, amazing wallpaper, digital painting highly detailed, 8k UHD detailed oil painting, beautiful art UHD, focus on full glass sphere, bokeh, background Modifiers: extremely detailed Award winning photography, fantasy studio lighting, photorealistic very attractive beautiful imperial colours ultra detailed 3D, (Extremely Intricate), UHD, lora:Black__White_One_Accent_Color_-_By_Dice:1, (Black and white image, Red Accent)

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old hat bro

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I think loras if you can be assed to make them should be something new something not seen before. Something to spark a users insparation

hexed dirge
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Yes but they are unpredictable until you try them

bitter hearth
hexed dirge
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i.e. I trained this lora for SDXL but it comes out very bad. for flux it's great. Other loras that were very good with SXDL works not so well with flux. Using same dataset

bitter hearth
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if you use civitai lora creator then yes very unpridictble. If you know what your doing and how to control the creation of your lora,, then they are from unpredictble

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where did you train your lora?

hexed dirge
bitter hearth
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so you used civitai ?

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thats why bro

hexed dirge
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for this one yes

bitter hearth
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so when you use civitai lora maker, i dont want this to sound patranising but do you know what each setting does exactly when you create in there maker?

hexed dirge
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But, as told, also knowing parameters you can't know how lora will work

bitter hearth
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can i ask how many images you used and captions and pixel size bro?

hexed dirge
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it depends on lora (because I use only images for what I've the rights of use). Sometime 50 other 20

bitter hearth
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like what would you caption this image in your lora creation

hexed dirge
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I use kohja for caption with manual review

bitter hearth
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civitai maker wouldnt give a monkies if you had perm on not for the images

hexed dirge
bitter hearth
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to caption that image and trigger lora would be (black and white with red accent)

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you dont need the image item

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the checkpoint creates the image

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lora just needs what it simply requires

hexed dirge
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do you train lora for Flux?

bitter hearth
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so say 10 trigger words each the same but change the red for green, blue ETC ETC

bitter hearth
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includeing SD3

desert garnet
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you are not seasoned like him bro

hexed dirge
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oh wow sd3

bitter hearth
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SD3 is no different , simple basics are still the same

hexed dirge
bitter hearth
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yes local, That was just a test lora to see if it would actually improve SD3 text gen. i have 68 loras created and all for SDXL

hexed dirge
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4090?

bitter hearth
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trained 14 full Checkpoints including SDXL, SD3 and flux, Hyuan DiT

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2 yep lol

desert garnet
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i heard he connected 2 4090s with nvlink first person on the world to do this

hexed dirge
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well right. I'm with 4070. SD was easy training, but starting from SDXL too much time

desert garnet
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he used the new connector called ASSLINK

bitter hearth
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thats the 3090 i built it with, its shown multiple times in the video

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whats your point?

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when i posted the video if you had read under it me a guy were discussing when i changed the GPU out

hexed dirge
# bitter hearth

I'm with 4070 so for flux Civitai or runpod and it costs a lot

bitter hearth
hexed dirge
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12 GB

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2200 buz for every lora

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or 2000 with standard parameters

bitter hearth
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is that how much there charging now

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used to be 500

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and a half a day wait

hexed dirge
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for sdxl started with 500 but after some time the go up till 900

bitter hearth
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ive been banned for around 3 months

hexed dirge
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why?

bitter hearth
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so those increases must of happened in that time

bitter hearth
hexed dirge
desert garnet
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they hate seasoning

bitter hearth
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The users accounts on civitai are being data sort

hexed dirge
bitter hearth
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here is my profile page on civitai, They cant remove it as i put a block on it. also look at all the free stuff i added moving animated everything https://civitai.com/user/DiceAiDevelopment
if you tap my profile image that even moves
They cant even remove me from there own website. Just cant log in to that account as they banned the email address i used

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al,l there shop for decorations is vunrable you get that all for free

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10,000 buzz for a crappy picture frame. I took all there picture frames for free, and then made it a lora lol

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mugging users off is there game

desert garnet
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their store looks like an nft marketplace

sage burrow
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why on earth would people pay for those decorations? Do they give more page findability or something?

bitter hearth
sage burrow
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However actual cash made from civitai isn't possible it seems

bitter hearth
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to cash out in civitai you need a 1000 fiollows and then they take 25% back as a platform charge

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100,000 buzz exchanges to 38 dollars US

sage burrow
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you could make more selling loras on etsy or something

desert garnet
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thats way too high should be at like 5 USD

bitter hearth
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since moving all my models to shakker.ai in the last 3 months they have paid me out $1000 cash

desert garnet
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how does it work there,do u upload and pay u in buzz for each download or what

bitter hearth
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I strongly suggest getting on shakker as its rapidly becoming a awesome site and you want your models noticed as it grows as if your new creator to civitai youll just get lost in the untrained loras and useless merges as they pay for that old tosh

desert garnet
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shakker

bitter hearth
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shakker you add your models . they pay you cash bonus to accout . Example just recently they had a campaign called shake the world . every checkpoint you added got 100 bucks roughly

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then they had a sd3 image comp first prize 2000 bucks cash

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now they are running the current comp which is aldo cash , the theme is movie posters with flux

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into a creator to the site you get $10 bucks

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always doing some cash incentive and they pay out as soon as you request it from your accoun

desert garnet
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that sounds better than civit,having to wait til u get 100k buzz is a pain

bitter hearth
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thats the flux comp. win a RTX 4090

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thats the poster flux challenge

sage burrow
bitter hearth
sage burrow
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I don't do humans though for my images/models, and you just know one with women is going to win...

bitter hearth
sage burrow
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THe world probably needs my horror sea creatures photography model anyways though ๐Ÿ˜‰

bitter hearth
sage burrow
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for checkpoints, darn

bitter hearth
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models

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not just real people

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read there are loads of dofferent catagories

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and a 1000 bucks for community fave . I won that just last week for SD3 image challenge.

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so i know and can assure you they pay you play

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just say hi dice you asked me to come from discord , sometyhing like that and ill get you free $$ for joining

torn wharf
bitter hearth
torn wharf
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pretty cool to nvlink two ada cards . neatoh

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thats like, what? 48gb? beefy big gpus tho need a big box haha

bitter hearth
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first of all ...... Make sure your motherboard has enough PCIe slots to accommodate two GPUs. Ideally, you'll want to use PCIe 4.0 or 5.0 slots for the best performance.
Ensure that your power supply can handle the power requirements of two RTX 4090s. You'll likely need a power supply with a minimum of 1000 watts, but it's recommended to go higher if possible.

torn wharf
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||phalus joke||

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two 4090's? i have a 1000w gpu and pushy the edge with one 4080

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also 6 drives but thats beside the point

bitter hearth
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To combine the VRAM of your two RTX 4090 GPUs, you'll need to use a feature called NVLink. NVLink allows multiple GPUs to communicate with each other at high speeds and share data. To use NVLink, you'll need the following:
Two RTX 4090 GPUs that support NVLink.
An NVLink bridge connector. This is a physical bridge that connects the two GPUs together.
NVIDIA's NVLink driver. This is a software driver that enables NVLink functionality on your system.

torn wharf
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you talking TWO top end SOTA beefiest power chugging GPUS an you're only going to bring 1000w to the party? no go bigger. my immediate thought. that's asking for problems

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no 4090s hav nvlink. i thought you modded one.

desert garnet
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brb ill try to get one

torn wharf
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you can't buy a 4090 that have the connector. thats what i was going for when i was like "yo thats neat"

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and the silicon have the features turned off too

desert garnet
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jensen huang edition

bitter hearth
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mines over 1000 w but when i looked into how i was finding a 1000w would carry it

desert garnet
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maybe its the jensen Juan edition

torn wharf
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oh you just gotta have a dad whose frens with jens?

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yeah i might know a dad. i'll look into it

bitter hearth
#

with NVLink enabled and two RTX 4090 GPUs connected, you will effectively have 48GB of VRAM available to your system. This is because the NVLink interface allows the two GPUs to share data and resources, including VRAM. So when your applications or games require more VRAM, they will be able to access the VRAM of both GPUs, effectively giving you 48GB of VRAM to work with. However, it's important to note that not all applications or games will take full advantage of NVLink, so your mileage may vary.

torn wharf
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you just skipped over a whole part dice

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bro back up

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you just pasting gpt come on dude. don't hallucinate

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lets be honest

bitter hearth
torn wharf
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no you werent

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you talkin about nvlinking 4090s is just pure gpt hallucinations. none of this works like anything you said bruh.

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i just led you on cause i know you'd decimate your credibility

bitter hearth
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I have a mic and keyboard set up to text long boring sentances rather than type

torn wharf
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if you so lawry'd up you'd be typing at the speed of thought

bitter hearth
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dude go look here this is even where i got the bridge connetors

torn wharf
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buh you even vim?

bitter hearth
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NVLink bridge connector for your RTX 4090 GPUs:
NVIDIA's website: NVIDIA sells NVLink bridges directly on their website, and you can find them in the "Accessories" section.

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You can also find NVLink bridges on Amazon,

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go look for yourself

torn wharf
desert garnet
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only the 3090 has it ๐Ÿ˜” ,thats why 3090 is a beast

torn wharf
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thats why 3090 is still a beast its tru

bitter hearth
torn wharf
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my whole point is defeated

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i'm not worried about the future at all. people who bullshit with language models as aids will always be obvious. especially more so than had they bullshitted themselves. at least a bullshitter knows what domains they can play in

bitter hearth
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Check out this insane dual RTX 4090 setup we've just built for Shane!

Shane got his first Cataclysm PC about 3 years ago, it had an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X with an RTX 3090 and 128GB RAM. He mainly uses Blender for 3D artwork and he decided it was time for a more powerful beast to get through the rendering process even quicker.

The first time he got...

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torn wharf
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you can get 2 in one pc. he doesn't have them on nvlink though

bitter hearth
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easier to watch how than explain to how

torn wharf
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no its easier to explain

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i just did

bitter hearth
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i have but your not getting what im saying

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you need the bridge connector not just the NVLink

torn wharf
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yeah this guy uses the two cards in tandem, but they aren't operating like one

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rendering. classic use case

bitter hearth
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he combines to get the 48GB

torn wharf
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i'm not even seasoned i just know this

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timestap that part. it'll be simple

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you DO know how to timestamp link a youtube right?

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the lack of expertise is palpable. i can't pretend its not dude

bitter hearth
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watch from 3.24 mins in till the end

torn wharf
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i've already watched it all in 2x speed

bitter hearth
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now you know how even he says 1000w power sup would be ok to

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mines 1200w

torn wharf
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yeh but he knows. he knows at full tilt at the same time, you want good power

bitter hearth
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yes

torn wharf
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i respect the guy's build. i'm not shittin on him. he got a beast workstation for rendering and editing. its sweet

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but its not nvlinked

bitter hearth
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the point were discussing is you said you cant

torn wharf
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his use case wouldn't need it. blender doesn't need real time frames or large memory swaps

bitter hearth
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you can

torn wharf
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i know what your point is. you've yet to demonstrate how you did it

bitter hearth
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dude it can im sitting here typing to you on my rig

torn wharf
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doubt

bitter hearth
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doubt what?

torn wharf
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that you got anything that qualifies as a rig

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here i got a diss track for this moment holld up

bitter hearth
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making a video as proff

desert garnet
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if u got it working and its sharing vram it should say this on your task manager

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if it doesnt say link its not working

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and you are just using two separate gpus

bitter hearth
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uploading video now

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included our chat as proof for you

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that internal monitor shows rtx 4090 GPU 1st card

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and the itel i9

craggy crest
bitter hearth
mortal mesa
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could just show the NVLink /shrug

desert garnet
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no one is trolling here everyone knows that u cant share vram on 2x 4090

craggy crest
desert garnet
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you would be the first person in the world to do it should contact steven from gamernexus he could feature you on one of his videos

torn wharf
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thats a fischer price toy

bitter hearth
torn wharf
bitter hearth
desert garnet
torn wharf
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probably going to retire from the generative arts "community". this is it. theres better and theres worse and well, the worse is pretty bad. these are established people in the community behaving this way. like snotty nosed children. it's shameful. money don't equal skill.

good luck out there boys and girls

bitter hearth
craggy crest
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before he 1. wastes his time and 2. hands you troll fuel

torn wharf
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mods here don't care and will allow peeps like these two pretending to dogpile, to maintain as regulars here. shit's all fucked up when the administrators of a community side with the worst people. Hope things go well for stability still but this is just shit shameful and disappointing

desert garnet
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the one saying that you can nvlink 2x 4090s is the real troll here,imagine someone coming here for buying advice and actually listens to him,he would end up wasting money

craggy crest
bitter hearth
torn wharf
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i woudln't want to associate with this server if i felt like i had real expertise, i'll tell you that much

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it would dilute me

craggy crest
mortal mesa
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a perfect couple thoes 2

desert garnet
desert garnet
bitter hearth
desert garnet
craggy crest
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steven is now going to state that nvidia doesn't know what they are doing and that you can't do that, even though they publish the software to do it

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(do you honestly think that data center server racks don't share their VRAM?)

desert garnet
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crystalwizard is now going to state you can use an nvlink on a 4090 like the clown he is

craggy crest
bitter hearth
craggy crest
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or go tell nvidia they are clueless

desert garnet
mortal mesa
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its factual the name callers always have the weakest argument

craggy crest
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they're also the 11 year old kids pretending to be old enough to be on discord

toxic bone
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nvlink was removed from the 40 series so they wouldnt cut into the enterprise market. everyone knows this i thought

desert garnet
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i mean if these two clowns had an argument they would just put a screenshot of the nvlink on a 4090

toxic bone
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why would people by the a100 or whatever.. if 2 4090s would do it

bitter hearth
craggy crest
toxic bone
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its a smart business call by nvidia though i don't know why y'all are mad bout it. so the 4090's can't do nvlink . stfw

desert garnet
mortal mesa
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i think one person is trying to double down while the other backpedaling, its funny

toxic bone
craggy crest
bitter hearth
craggy crest
mortal mesa
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backpedaling

sacred jewel
toxic bone
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the whole 40 series dropped it. this is long known

desert garnet
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you can always post a screenshot of your gpu linked on task manager best way to prove the haters

toxic bone
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k well .. i just came for pics but y'all were aruging . i thought it was something else.

desert garnet
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yea post the pics

mortal mesa
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listen hes doing something thats like the same thing, that comes next

bitter hearth
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the 4090 NV has also a version that isnt stock . go goole it

craggy crest
# toxic bone huh?

steven never listens. he just looks for excuses to argue, and when he finds one, he latches onto it and goes full speed ahead. and everything someone says just gives him more fuel to keep arguing with. he'll even twist what was said if he needs to

craggy crest
toxic bone
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huh?

desert garnet
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isnt that what you are doing now

toxic bone
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ok. i'm in the wrong place.

craggy crest
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stick around a few months and watch him. popcorn's in the cupboard

desert garnet
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the point is not lost,is just a fact that u cant nvlink a 4090

craggy crest
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(he says to someone tha thas nvlink running with a 4090)

bitter hearth
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ive been here 2 days and he has already bored the life outta me

craggy crest
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YOU can't. other people can

desert garnet
craggy crest
mortal mesa
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why you so nasty

craggy crest
desert garnet
mortal mesa
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weak argument i suppose

craggy crest
desert garnet
craggy crest
desert garnet
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if not the only one

sacred jewel
desert garnet
bitter hearth
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stop arguing and make peace

sacred jewel