🆕｜sd3

[hallow lion]

This is like the birth of the movie industry 100 years ago. Except with ADHD and on steroids.

[bitter hearth]

i could be mistaken but think the quantized versions are limiting a lot of the features

[errant dust]

Limiting? How so?

[hallow lion]

Well its obvious the original Dev is the best model everythign else is a compromise

[bitter hearth]

i tried image2image with gguf, nf4 both dev and schnell, dont think they are producing correct results

[hallow lion]

but you must learn patience to use it

[bitter hearth]

a simple example i can give about the quantized gguf is that some of the samplers are producing low quality outputs

[errant dust]

THat is not an example. Can you provide a precise example with image?

and that Dev pure does not have this issue

[bitter hearth]

not at the moment, i have to sort out the images

also running some other tests and im downloading non quantized versions for closer look

[errant dust]

then I'd be careful about making the claim

[bitter hearth]

i had those models but rushed to delete them earlier

[errant dust]

That GGUF is the issue

[bitter hearth]

my claims are based on actual outputs

[errant dust]

Personally, I have not seen this. And I compared the pure Dev with the GGUF on many instances

some GGUF, not all

[bitter hearth]

gguf definitely has poor outputs with lcm

opposed to nf4

[errant dust]

lcm?

[bitter hearth]

try it

do a comparison

[errant dust]

Never used it to be honest. Ok, sure

[bitter hearth]

any thoughts on these versions? these are not quantized are they? https://huggingface.co/Kijai/flux-fp8/tree/main

[hallow lion]

I tried it

they are

compromise

but not bad

I always go back to shnell coz i am too impatient.

4 steps. please

not 20

[errant dust]

Did they do something with the inference?

My machine is unchanged but the pure Dev is going way fast

This won't sound fast, but trust me, 3m30s for 30 steps is completely abnormal

[hallow lion]

hmmmm

that's unacceptable

[errant dust]

No change in model. Absolutely certain

[hallow lion]

anything over a minute for a 30 step 1024/1024 image is not going to fly

[errant dust]

lol. Dude, I was used to seeing it take 45 mins

for pure Dev

[hallow lion]

its sis not dude

[mortal mesa]

comfy has done a ton of work on memory management and loafing unloading stuff

[errant dust]

Hon, I am telling you.

😛

[hallow lion]

and how? even of 4GB i got like an image in about 3 minutes

45 minutes???

[errant dust]

with pure unmodified Dev?

[hallow lion]

oh no

[errant dust]

ah

[hallow lion]

we are talking about SD15 back then in the old days ( 8 months ago)

flux doidnt exist yet

[errant dust]

Yes, I was talking about pure Dev. I guess my comment came in mid conversation of yours, and led to this misunderstanding

In any case, I am still scratching my head

Granted this is the fp8 version, but it is still the plain UNET file. 17gb. I know what times I got. It is even why I hesitated to run torq's test

[hallow lion]

It is slow.

It;s frustrating.

[errant dust]

No, this was faster than the GGUFs

oddly

[hallow lion]

whne i started SD15 was king - it was terrible to run it. barely... SO I upgraded and can do SDXL now ok and here we are pixart, ckolors, flux and so on....

it never ends

Whats next...

25GB download and 64GB vram minimum...

And it almost weekly. Like sometimes every week a ne wmodle comes out, not exagerating. lol

Flux came out of nowhere

[errant dust]

lolol. Welcome to the wonderful world of tech, where the less opulent play a never-ending game of catchup

But there is this to consider: I always viewed SD and co. as being of the same ilk: playing catch up. I was never really content with the SD results except here and there. Flux compeltely changed that.

[hallow lion]

It sucks for someone like me. I just like to figure somethign out and work ith it forever if I can. I use like 20 year old programs in some of my pipelines.

I just want soem AI stuff that does what I need it to lol

I dont nee dupgrades every 2 months.

[errant dust]

I actually deliberately chose to focus on my CPU tratehr than GPU, since my gaming needs and wants are pretty light, and most of my stuff was extremely CPU intensive

[hallow lion]

Yes, as far as one off image making fluz is there. We now need consistency and later on video.

and were ready to take on hollywood

[errant dust]

I have zero illusions of that last.

[hallow lion]

nah we will

100%

[errant dust]

No, we really won't. The problem is not one of tech

[hallow lion]

whats is it then

its always about lack of resources

advertising power? marketing?

[errant dust]

And competence. It is like saying you can make video games and thanks to UR5 you can now take on the big studios and AAA titles. It is to have no idea how big the project and amoount of work is needed

[hallow lion]

Ah well of course

a madman or woman has to come along with enough time and determination and vision to do it yes

of course

but it will be possible

[errant dust]

It honestl already is

[hallow lion]

welllllll

not reallllllllyyyy

lol

[errant dust]

WHat is it you think will be so different?

[hallow lion]

we need consistency

we dont have enough continuity to tell a story with AI

Everythign shifts and morphs.

[errant dust]

Start piece by piece. Write teh story

[hallow lion]

Yes we can write stories

But until the characters and objects and locations shift fro frame to rame its not gonna work

[craggy crest]

we HAVE consistency. i gave you one yesterday, and one today, with extrem consistency. you obviously have your head in the sand

[hallow lion]

It has to be consistent down to like the moles on the face

[craggy crest]

you don't even get that in movies shot on film

[errant dust]

Heh. I think writing the story is already the first major stumbling block

[hallow lion]

We all have stories

[errant dust]

Sure, but the question is of quality

[craggy crest]

doge is discording while high apparently

[errant dust]

I started Rebel Moon, Director's Cut. Got through maybe 15 misn. Then I stopped it it was so annoying and cliche

[craggy crest]

go watch this, https://new.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1f0b45f/flux_is_a_gamechanger_for_character_wardrobe/ then talk about whether we have consistancy and high quality or not

[hallow lion]

Screenplay by ChatGPT and directed by Grok2. XD

[errant dust]

Gawd. I have seen the writing it spits out

Creative writing that is

the essays are mostly ABC

[craggy crest]

you only think you have

[errant dust]

Oh. Right. I only think I have

[craggy crest]

you've seen plenty of its writing, only you don't' realize it. you only realize what is posted as from it, or that you got - but what it can do is extremely good and you can't tell

[errant dust]

I'm impressed you know in such detail what I have seen and what I can tell

[craggy crest]

i know, because i know what it can do. and based on your comment, i know you've failed to detect a lot of its writing

[errant dust]

One day i will also enjoy those special powers

[craggy crest]

not likely

[errant dust]

Woosh!

The sound of irony flying over your head

[craggy crest]

yup. you're looking at your toes and the rest of the world is walking past your obliviousness

[hallow lion]

lol

[craggy crest]

you and doge go off and enjoy living in a dreamworld

[hallow lion]

dont let cyrtsalman get to you hes the local goblin.

[mortal mesa]

do you have a LLM detect trophy, whatever that means

[craggy crest]

you remember that when you point a finger at someone, you have multiple fingers pointing back at yourself

[errant dust]

Dude. I have been supporting myself for decades as a writer. His opinions have no impact on me

[hallow lion]

Good

everyone with a decent IQ blocked and reported him.

[craggy crest]

i can guess how many harliquin romances you've written

[errant dust]

Is that the Joker''s GF?

[craggy crest]

guess that means you don't have a decent iq

[hallow lion]

You know how every classroom has a bully/idiot. Like the Dr Magnusson in the hl games

thats crystalwizard

it is what it is

[errant dust]

Don't you need at least an impression of strength or superiority to be a bully?

[mortal mesa]

X (dont deadname) credentialed

[hallow lion]

Assholes are equally distributed across all groups.

[errant dust]

Now, now now.

[hallow lion]

heh

[craggy crest]

you would know

[hallow lion]

He reported everyone in this channel probably several times over

thatsa bully

talks down to people

thats a bully

insults eveyrone

thts a bully

[hallow lion]

hes just another jerk

[errant dust]

Crystal is entitled to his delusions. I think he simply cannot discern the writing peccadillos of the AIs, their systemic giveaways, and therefore cannot imagine they exist

[spark quail]

crystal is a saint, idk how anyone could not like them

[errant dust]

They are not incompetent writers mind you. But we are talking actual fiction, not a couple of paragraphs of descriptions

[hallow lion]

it does not matter whatsoever what he thinks about anythign or SD3 or anythign else

what matter sis that is he a nice human being or a dick

and he seems to be a nasty dick

thats the bottom line

he is not a decent human being

he is nasty rude condescending and rough and harsh and a bully

he proved it many times

[mortal mesa]

and has a 50/50 crappy picture ratio

[errant dust]

I don't view him as a bully. Just a troll. A bully for me is different, but maybe I am insufficiently exposed

[hallow lion]

yeah

a troll fits too

it wa sreally so nice here before he showed up

hes the only jerk here

[craggy crest]

i've been here far longer than you have

[hallow lion]

reporting everyone

harrassing people

[errant dust]

?

[hallow lion]

like why

[errant dust]

Reporting people?

[hallow lion]

oh yeah

he reported everyone for nonsense

lol

every othe rmessage of his was

"reported"

[craggy crest]

doge is very good at fabricating facts

[mortal mesa]

ypu reported me

[hallow lion]

thats why i think of him more as a bully

rather thin a plain troll

he likes to harm people

fklex

threaten

he is a bully

[errant dust]

I still would define that as trolling. Reporting is not bullying

[mortal mesa]

its just silly

[hallow lion]

it is silly

[errant dust]

Menne so

Mebbe so

[hallow lion]

but it does harm people emotionally

and otherwise

it is a form of bullying

he likes to attack people

[errant dust]

Mmm... Threatening to report might be a form of bullying, Actually just reporting is not

[hallow lion]

Like you are reported now and maybe discord will ban you and whatnot

like its vague threats

vague uses of force that he gets off on

[errant dust]

Meh. I have been excluded from a number of Reddit groups for pure inanities. I would not feel any differently

[mortal mesa]

sometimes the do you know who i am defense comes out, DO YOU KNOW WHO I KNOW

[hallow lion]

Do you know who I is?! I am the crystal wizard

!

I can call the dodge coin "it"

and report "it" for nonsense

because I am the crystal wizard!

[errant dust]

That's a threat? DO you know who I know? I thought that was just insecurity

[hallow lion]

I am superior with an IW of 150!

IQ

Pathetic.

[errant dust]

Well, I can see you have a major hangup on her

[hallow lion]

Its not a her

id be shocked if it was a female

Well I do. why because I am tired of one or two jerks ruinign a family or a group

a handful of countries ruin the whole world

[mortal mesa]

its the only person ive seen attack people here besides spam trolls that get booted

[hallow lion]

So yeah I am sick and tired of peopel likei crystal wizard

absolutely sick and tired of theuir evil.

[errant dust]

well, why not just put her on your mute list?

[hallow lion]

I despise them and I ahve no clue why mods aent doing their job

when they see bullying and harrassment go on for weeks

and months

I muted it

but discord is like not muting them 100%

[errant dust]

Look, you cannot be harrassed by someone you cannot read or see

yes, I am aware too

[hallow lion]

I always see message by crystal dork and do you wanna see it

its quaint he thinks i read his garbage still

[errant dust]

?

[hallow lion]

If I block crystal wizard I dont want to know he is on discord yet this is what I get.

[errant dust]

Dodge, my tip is just ignore the notifications of hidden messages entirely. I have a cople on my mute list. I gurantee you I have no curiosity or concern whatsoever

[hallow lion]

yeah

It just hurts

because I know what kinda person he is

[errant dust]

The importance of a rando on the internet is subzero. I mean, I already care very little about most people's opinons, of people I actualy interact with or know. Imagine some pseudo on the internet?

[sage burrow]

You should see some of the PMs I've gotten (not from this server ever), just block anyone who stresses you out or worse. The block feature is kinda awesome.

[hallow lion]

I understand. It just goes depper than that. I have known people like him in real life. One of these cna ruin a classroom or family.

I know I should develop a thicker skin lol.

this is the Interwebs! XD

Like imagine lording it over people "I am reporting you!"

Like who do you think you are exactly?

[errant dust]

A classroom? Well, I admit I am so long past that scene it has no residual effects left, but even then I was the nerd, and had no issue ignoring most

[sage burrow]

I don't beleive in the thicker skin bs, but if someone stresses you just block. Much less stress 😄

[mortal mesa]

internet crossing guard

[hallow lion]

Sadly the bullies I have known were aggressive.

You ignored them but they still slapped you.

[sage burrow]

fortunately you don't have to learn martial arts on the internet.....

[hallow lion]

Hey.

Remember that scene in Jay and Silent Bob when they went around and beat up everyone who talked smack about them online lol

XD

[errant dust]

I learned martial arts, they are cool. And I am short, and still very much the nerd.

[sage burrow]

Martial arts are definitely fun 🙂

[hallow lion]

I did learn a bit actually.

[errant dust]

And it was not an easy task. I had to take a 45-min subway to get to my kungfu school, and then 45 back. it was a COMMITMENT

[hallow lion]

As a 13 year old little girl lol

[errant dust]

yeah, I was 14

[hallow lion]

I cna still beat Steven Seagal

Hey me too.

[errant dust]

looked like In was 11 and descended from some starved people

[sage burrow]

Same, but in Vancouver a bus takes that long to get anywhere lol

[hallow lion]

Took like half an hour.

[sage burrow]

you guys are so lucky! I didn't take it up until my 40's! I tried when younger, but didn't find one I liked yet

[hallow lion]

😮

[sage burrow]

I just did hiking, kayaking etc before that for active stuff

[errant dust]

I went crazy on them, watching Bruce Lee movies fram by frame. lol. Had my mother buy me a large punching bag for my room. and lied my way to going every day.

This last deserves an explanation.

The monthly fee gave you the right to two classes a week. Each lasying about 2 hours

This was in the 80s

I soon noticied the master was never there and they had different teachers on different days

[hallow lion]

Bruce Lee is epic but in eastern europe ot was jean claude van damme that was the big action star :)))

[errant dust]

so no teacher ever saw me more than twice a week. lol

[hallow lion]

Steven Seagal too I must admit for a brief moment - a 5 year window or so

[sage burrow]

So since we are way off topic anyways, for a potluck tomorrow I'm making frittatas. Should I make the Greek/Italian flavor version, or the mexican flavor version? Basically black beans, cheese and a bit spicey, or extra garlic, and feta cheese? 😄

[errant dust]

I think the teachers spoke among themselves though, because two of the best teachers, one who had been 5-time French champion, caught on but said nothing... to the master.

[sage burrow]

heh

[hallow lion]

Greek/Italian version for sure

[sage burrow]

Though tbh there are very few martial arts teachers who kick someone out of a class, that's extremely dedicated

[errant dust]

Yeah, he casually paired me with another guy who was taller and a belt above for the sparring, and when i began to protest he said that with the amount of classes I was taking, I shoujld be fine. I gawked, shut up, and red-faced put on my gear. lol

(I was still a pipsqueak, don't let any of this suggest otherwise. 🙂

[sage burrow]

Martial arts kicks etc. were impossible to prompt for prior to Flux!

even with those fancy pose workflows/images

[mortal mesa]

Dont look at the toes

[errant dust]

Look, that is not horrible for AI

[sage burrow]

I did so many good parkour images with flux, also SD3, but with sd3 it had to be at least 4b, preferably 8b

[sterile pendant]

Foot fetishists are in shambles

[hallow lion]

Prompt the same but give her some boots.

[sage burrow]

I'm always amazed when people post feet on DA and they have FIVE toes!!!!

[sterile pendant]

Controlnets

[sage burrow]

Yeah those, but still... 😦

[sterile pendant]

Or they start with a reference image and do a low denoise

Like 0.4

Enough to hide the fact it was a real image originally

Saw a lot of that shit early on with video generations of tiktok dancers lol

[errant dust]

Last year with v5 I think, I had Midjourney give me a pic based on this prompt: taekwondo kick, drip painting on white background, style of Leroy Nieman

So believe me the foot and posture you showed is not bad

I had it doing all kinds of funky stuff mind you. Ex: baseball player swinging bat, drip painting on white background, style of Pollock

MJ is unique in its ability to dole these out

[bitter hearth]

young woman, blonde hair, yellow eyes, determined look, wearing choker, bare shoulders, raw photo, cinematic.

that with image2image ....
young woman, redhead, yellow eyes, determined look, wearing bead necklace, bare shoulders, raw photo, cinematic.
using denoise 0.60 still not getting the output right..

[errant dust]

BTW, I tested lcm and frankly the results of Pure Dev are just as shoddy and slightly out of focus

[bitter hearth]

this was lcm sampler on schnell, but can't seem to get the similar result with gguf

also this

results with lcm sampler that i used here are not highly polished but that's the artistic look of it, giving it a somewhat worn out fantasy theme look

[desert garnet]

i get 5 toes on txt2img with pony in like 6 out of 10 imgs so just gen a lot of imgs and delete the bad ones

[hallow lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ja890WM-eM

Madness.

[bitter hearth]

img2img workflow with SDXL

that proves flux img2img is not working correctly

[hallow lion]

I did notice some weirdness when I tried img2img with flux.

So what is this Mystic stuff. I guess I have to check tis out now...

[bitter hearth]

flux just misses to make changes

[hallow lion]

Midhourney dropped the ball.

[bitter hearth]

basically this with img2img
a blonde girl, wearing a sundress, in the garden, analog photo, cinematic.

a brunette girl, wearing a pullover, in the garden, winter morning, analog photo, cinematic.

[sage burrow]

TLDW version? 😄

[bitter hearth]

YouTube clickbaits

Hmm

You know what

That's what we need the giga ais that can watch videos for us for

They'll watch those clickbaity videos

[sterile pendant]

They work fine, it's just that flow based models don't have the same kind of sigma curve, so you usually need denoise values in the .55-.8 range

[bitter hearth]

And give us the actual content

[sage burrow]

Fortunately Geminii and Claude can do that 🙂

[sterile pendant]

Or at least I've found that range to be similar to 0.3-0.4 for sdxl models

You can also slap an auraflowshift node between and set it to 1.0 and use a simple schedule

[bitter hearth]

Are they free yet

[sterile pendant]

It will give it the diagonal sigma curve

It overrides comfys built in forced flow curve for flux

[bitter hearth]

i used denoise value between .06 - .08, while the first value doesn't have enough impact and the 08 changes the facial look on a portrait

[sterile pendant]

Not 0.06, 0.6

As in 60%

[bitter hearth]

right.. typo.. it was 0.60 and 0.80

[sterile pendant]

I'll make an example in a minute, waiting on the damn washer to toss the clothes over to the dryer

[bitter hearth]

sure, that would be nice, ive been trying this for hours

[desert garnet]

isnt Claude that img bot that was making the black George Washington imgs 🗿

[bitter hearth]

No

People are the ones doing that

[desert garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/low-res-emoji-gif-15431116145489883202

[sage burrow]

Were they ever paid?

[sage burrow]

Claude doesn't do images from what I know?

[desert garnet]

it was the google img bot but i dont remember the name it was all over the news

[sage burrow]

Sounds like an improvement to me 😉

[mortal mesa]

was it gemini, i forget which name too

[desert garnet]

yea that was the one,when ppl asked for accurate pictures of the founding fathers it generated them as black women

[mortal mesa]

embarrassing for them

[desert garnet]

yea they werent even the thicc sexy ones

[bitter hearth]

I saw them months ago maybe they are free now

They were premium users only kinda stuff

For this super tech of being able to watch videos

[sterile pendant]

damn, really had to push the denoise up high. but anyways, the flow based models are weird compared to the previous styles of models and need really high denoise to make big changes. you'd be surprised how much of the image can remain even at 0.9 or 0.95

and here's part of why:

flux on the left, sdxl on the right, both using simple

[bitter hearth]

thanks, yes it definitely needs high denoise value, but the changes i was aiming for didn't feel satisfactory

[sterile pendant]

the alternative might be to unsample the image down to a single step or two, then resample the whole thing or do some noise injection, but that's a much more complicated topic overall

[sage burrow]

Gemini advanced gives a free trial, which is 6 months long if you have a yearly drive subscription. (2 months otherwise I think).
Claude has been free so far fortunately 😄
Now GPT is free for the regular, then paid for the fancy create your own GPTs etc.

[rain current]

Yes, it works very differently. I use it in an ipadapter style, with a denoise set to 0.9, using the same prompt with different reference photographs so that it generates different environments in the image. Since the prompt is quite different from the reference image, it usually applies the style of the references. Same prompt, and same seed:

[sterile pendant]

Yep, good example. Haven't messed around with ipa for flux yet though. All I know is flux has a reaaaaaaly strong style transfer when denoising. I think even the ipa addon creator guy mentioned it as well

The obvious alternative is to just use a cnet with a full new image

(canny or depth)

Like if you want some scene composition, but in a totally different artsyle or mood

[rain current]

That's the idea, when I like a composition, I generate a batch of 36 images with different variations

And between 0.85 to 0.95, depending on how much variation I want. 0.9 is a middle ground that I like; at 0.85, there's already a lot of variation, and in some cases, I want it to be that way

[sterile pendant]

Since flow models have such a touchy denoise range, I've thought about making a node to pseudo-remap the range for you so that if you put in a range you'd be used to with sdxl, something like .4, it will crunch the numbers and map it to the delicate flow range like 0.83457 or whatever

[bitter hearth]

yeah sounds like a great idea

[sterile pendant]

You'd just promote denoise to a pin and plug it in

I'd just have to f around for a bit to figure the ranges and equations out

[bitter hearth]

I have this issue with CFG++ and ancestral samplers

[sterile pendant]

Cfg++ uses like half the normal cfg

[bitter hearth]

at high steps like 300-600 steps, CFG++ ancestral samplers need something silly like 0.003 CFG

[bitter hearth]

that was the alt mode, the full mode is more like 10% CFG

[sterile pendant]

Ahh

Yeah

[bitter hearth]

specifically, 12 normal CFG = 1 CFG ++

the alt mode was comfy devs getting confused, as far as I can tell

the CFG++ paper only has one conclusion- that the final CFG number should be between 0 and 1

there is something else weird happening where ancestral samplers at very high step counts have more CFG burn

so they need incredibly low CFG

I am not sure if this is correct behaviour or if ancestral samplers are not implemented properly

[rain current]

The man from the car! 😂

[noble coyote]

https://felloai.com/2024/08/mystic-ai-image-generator-from-freepik-and-magnific-ai-that-beats-midjourney/

[sage burrow]

It's so so. These were definitely cherry picked.

[bitter hearth]

Dude really wanted to get on the shot cx

[bitter hearth]

I'm calling the extermination team

that Mystic model looks horrifically over-fit

I think it has overtaken Kolors

as the most over-fit on midjourney model

[sage burrow]

I prob would have rated it higher has they bot claimed to be better than the most well known realism ai art app.

Sd3

[bitter hearth]

the guy got over-fit way past orange he is actually red now

[gentle tendon]

Does this bot got free nsfw?

[sage burrow]

The trick to that program is to have it keep making more until you get good ones.

[alpine summit]

Sdxl

[sage burrow]

Try mage.space

[bitter hearth]

not rly, if a model is over-fit that also means less diversity

so running a lot of samples doesn't work also

[sterile pendant]

High contrast != Overfit, but if you start seeing the same 10 faces and poses, then yeah

[bitter hearth]

it depends on what the prompt was and whether it is able to do other styles ye

but I am willing to bet it will be over fit

[gentle tendon]

How to try it

[sterile pendant]

Flux is over fit, by definition

That's why there's shallow dof in every photo

And why it sucks at traditional art

Well, not sucks, but just isn't great at

[sage burrow]

Not too bad at surreslism

Flux pro

[bitter hearth]

Howdy all

I'm only but a ball enrolled in my bed

It's cold

[bitter hearth]

ye the shallow dof is annoying

as someone who loves deep dof

I am staying on SD 1.5 or SDXL in general

[sterile pendant]

Yeah that's pro though. The distilled versions are extremely unreliable at doing a lot of common art themes and styles

[sage burrow]

I'll try the same prompts with Dev next to see how it goes. How I manage is that I have Claude help with the prompts 😄

[sterile pendant]

Oh you'll get some decent results here and there, but it's just highly unreliable and you end up having to fight the prompt a lot

[sage burrow]

and I made an artistic styles glif as well, which pretty much focuses on any artist I mention...

[sterile pendant]

I remember spending an hour fighting dev to get it to make thick textured paint strokes

Forget what word salad I used, but eventually I got it to where it would work like 30% of the time

[bitter hearth]

its a weird thing with flux
that I find it very uncontrollable
but some people really love flux and don't like it when it gets criticised

[sage burrow]

Fortunately with pro I've barely had to cherry pick, now to try Dev and hope I"m not too disappointed. SD3 is best at various art styles, I really need to work on that SD3/Flux workflow I was using (I've made too many workflows and not organized them well enough 😦 lol)

[sage burrow]

30% of the time is definitely not useful 😦

[sterile pendant]

Schnell has a shitload more variety than dev. I use it a lot to prep and then img2img with dev

They kind of hide that fact with their obnoxious graphs

On their site

[sage burrow]

Hmm, can you somehow use schnell, then dev in the same workflow somehow? 😄

[sterile pendant]

Yeah, just make sure you have the ram to hold them for swapping

[sage burrow]

I deleted Schnell yesterday, oops lol

[sage burrow]

Er prob not lolol

[sterile pendant]

The problem with schnell is that the images are always so bright and blown out like using a cfg of 8-10 with sdxl

But it has a ton more variety

[sage burrow]

The problem I keep havin with Dev is that the images keep ending up looking as if I ran out of printer ink, faded, hmmm

[sterile pendant]

Sometimes you can trick dev into spitting out more variety by lowering the overall megapixel count to like .8 or something and upscale and resample back to 1mp or higher

Like make shit in the 768x768 range

[sage burrow]

that might even speed things up at the same time!

[sterile pendant]

Sometimes, definitely for exploring seeds though. Reminds me of working with cascade when you do a schnell->dev workflow

At any rate, they are great models but no model is perfect. They definitely made them with the average user in mind in the sense that they focused mostly on being able to make good people

But they're still great at a lot of other stuff

[sage burrow]

Their ability to make hybrid creatures is pretty amazing!

and SD3 knows who Pietre Bruegel the Elder is. No complaints at all from me!

[bitter hearth]

yeah this

[sage burrow]

Anyone know how to prompt 2 separate characters in the same scene, with flux? Each doing different things.

[bitter hearth]

its the opposite of the style I like (soft and pastel colours)

[bitter hearth]

use the prompt character 1 and character 2. discribce character 1 and left or right side then do the same for charecter 2

[hollow swift]

I got this error when I tried to use the depth map. Any solution would be helpful

[sage burrow]

I suddenly have a new appreciation for Schnell

[bitter hearth]

FLUX HYPER CHECKPOINT

[sage burrow]

Thank you 🙂

[bitter hearth]

egyptian bug is nice yeah

[sage burrow]

In mech armour lol

[sage burrow]

Pro

[bitter hearth]

sadly pro is so much better

[sage burrow]

Doesn't look like "Beksinski and El Greco" style in the slightest though 😦

Too bad pro can't be run on our own systems

[bitter hearth]

use hyper its like pro and works onsite generators and local

https://tensor.art/models/759856135286068673/FLUX-HYPER-TRAINED-DREAM-DIFFUSION-BY-DICE-V-1

[alpine summit]

Sdxl

[sacred jewel]

How are things on the Antartica Science Base? 😛

[bitter hearth]

FLUX HYPER

[alpine summit]

Prompt?

[bitter hearth]

"spectacular digital rendering of a (transparent:1.8) Zonda car, revealing internal mechanical components such as engine, car chassis, suspension, and internal wiring, detailed textures, detailed machinery, accurate lighting and shadows, 8k quality, intricate patterns, high-definition, glossy finish, vivid reflections, perfect lighting, showroom BREAK"

just change car model to what you require and works best in landscape

if you want the Flux Hyper Checkpoint https://tensor.art/models/759856135286068673/FLUX-HYPER-TRAINED-DREAM-DIFFUSION-BY-DICE-V-1

[sage burrow]

1.8 etc works?
Does that mean dynamic prompts work also?

[bitter hearth]

yes I trained it to use those

[sage burrow]

Is it on civitai or any other sites?

[bitter hearth]

Im banned from civitai . You can download it from Tensor Art and Shakker.ai

why ban

[sage burrow]

Alt account 😄

Tensor it is then. I recommend huggingface also 🙂

Can't sell generated images, nm

[bitter hearth]

They didnt agree with my views about the way the used there onsite generator with buzz and not allowing any of my models to used on it. Even tho the civitai community voted my checkpoint as number 1 . Civitai then had to pay me 100k buzz for winning then 2 days later they banned my account and my 32 models . I was ranked 4th master generator with just under 2k followers . Its was upraw lol

wow ok

[bitter hearth]

a lot of the top devs left with me and we went over to shakker

[sage burrow]

Not huggingface? 😦

[bitter hearth]

there is a fun report video on youtube by a guy who filmed all the screen shots of it happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgwEBvnnbqs

this guy

[sage burrow]

Shakkar seems so sketchy tho, abd they do bait and switch stuff 😦 Glad you are on tensor as well

[bitter hearth]

nice

[noble coyote]

Flux Dev + LoRAs

[bitter hearth]

problem with tensor is the model permissions are way worse than civit, and every model seems to have a different combination of permissions

[sage burrow]

Ohhh I should see if that model on Shakkar allows selling 9f images 😄

[sage burrow]

Tensor also doesn't allow nsfw (anymore) 😦

[bitter hearth]

ye Civit is by far the best for low restrictions

[sage burrow]

The real reason I like it is it's easy to see the type of images each produce

HF is definitely not as easy that way

[bitter hearth]

yeah getting checkpoints or loras from HF is pretty unusual

its not rly made for that

[sage burrow]

it has all the CSBW stuff though! ❤️

[noble coyote]

Recommend me some outstanding Flux LoRAs? 🙂

[sage burrow]

heh... well I've made 3 so far 😉

They are of a very specific theme though LOL

That dark fantasy one looks awesome, I haven't tried it yet though

Duc Haiten has made several, they are pretty good

Wow, there's suddenly 10 times the amount of flux loras today!

[bitter hearth]

balling

[sacred jewel]

That's what I call Cool Ball

[bitter hearth]

try this prompt with the neg prompt to bro spectacular digital rendering of a (transparent:1.8) Ferrari car, revealing internal mechanical components such as engine, car chassis, suspension, and internal wiring, detailed textures, detailed machinery, accurate lighting and shadows, 8k quality, intricate patterns, high-definition, glossy finish, vivid reflections, perfect lighting, showroom BREAK, macro photography, extreme close-ups, intricate details, unseen worlds, capturing texture, emphasizing details, revealing beauty in small things, professional lighting, precise focusing, artistic expression, immersive experience, expert technique
Negative prompt: bad anatomy, comics, cropped, cross-eyed, worst quality, low quality, painting, 3D render, drawing, crayon, sketch, graphite, impressionist, cartoon, anime, noisy, blurry, soft, deformed, ugly, lowres, low details, JPEG artifacts, airbrushed, semi-realistic, CGI, render, Blender, digital art, manga, amateur, mutilated, distorted

[sage burrow]

On tensor it says no resale of images, on shakker it says nothing... soooo are we allowed to sell the images made with this model if downloaded from Shakker?

[bitter hearth]

its a tricky one. as the base i hyper trained is flux dev , But I changed it up quite a bit . So its kinda a yes no sitution. Ive set as no commercial use as thats what the flux dev base was originally set as . But that license to be honest reads so badly its hard to grasp if you can or not

[sage burrow]

I make far less than 1mill pear year, I'm good 😄

[bitter hearth]

lol same lets go for it lol

[sage burrow]

Fortunately they reworded it, also one of their official people came into this channel to clairify things one day :>

[bitter hearth]

Yes i mentioned they would a few weeks back didnt I

[sage burrow]

Basically if you make less than 1mill before expenses, you can sell it all you want (the resulting images)

[bitter hearth]

Sweet they asked me what i thought and i suggested that to them

[sage burrow]

I look forward to the day that I have to pay SAI a cut ROFL

[sage burrow]

Btw, I hear that Mage.space pays model makers well for generations on their app.
More importantly they seem like awesome people

[sacred jewel]

I have not yet tried any workflow with negative prompting. Still using the original workflow from Comfy using the UNET Dev model...

[sage burrow]

I'm looking forward to 3d printed transparent full sized cars in the future!

[bitter hearth]

yes that sounds interesting, Shakker have paid me out a lot recently, Just under 1000 bucks cash

whoah thats a lot

[sage burrow]

That sounds 1000 times better than your civitai experience

Hmmmmmm

[bitter hearth]

civitai was certainly no experince I want to relive lol

if your a creator of models you will earn good money on shakker.ai

[sage burrow]

My loras aren't quite good enough yet, but soon....

[bitter hearth]

that 1000 bucks was over a period of less than 2 months and just by adding my models to there site and image comps

[sacred jewel]

Someone already di it 😛

[bitter hearth]

one comp that just ended was a best sd3 image render 1st prze was 2000 bucks cash and my image won community vote best image $100 . just for posting a few images . its a great return

[sacred jewel]

https://www.google.com/search?q=transparent car&udm=2&tbs=rimg:CfzNaQ9BveFjYYP06Pde99jfsgIAwAIA2AIA4AIA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCIQuIIBahcKEwiI4dDOsZCIAxUAAAAAHQAAAAAQHA&biw=2286&bih=1531&dpr=1.25

[bitter hearth]

Yes ive given my prompt to a lot of people

those were genterated on my SD3 Likeness model https://tensor.art/models/751438781070140461/SD3-LIKENESS-Dream-Diffusion-By-Dice-v1

which is a SDXL TURBO hyper trained checkpoint

[sage burrow]

All my shakker dreams are shattered! 😭 🤣

[bitter hearth]

yes its a porn free zone lol

[sage burrow]

congrats!

[sage burrow]

I'll have to read their definition of porn....

[bitter hearth]

thought that was NSFW

but went through after the 3rd try

[sage burrow]

that's surprising, even MJ would allow that. Different detection systems I guess

[bitter hearth]

Yes because my uploads to shakker have the prompts included in the image , so some of the context in prompts are read as NSFW

like this image i rendered with flux hyper

[bitter hearth]

with my Flux Hyper even the little details as in these renders ,,,,, A light moring frost on the car body work

[bitter hearth]

same prompt ... but just with a slight change to hollow blue neon glow

[sage burrow]

I should perhaps make some SFW loras as well 😉

[bitter hearth]

sdxl images with my powder explosion lora

https://tensor.art/models/751545979158691778/Any-Car-Detailer-By-DICE-v1

[sage burrow]

flux?

[sacred jewel]

Yup... Flux.1 Dev

[sage burrow]

Still using my the MJ free trial 😄 Don't mind the cheezy abs, I prompted hypermuscular..

[errant dust]

There is a Flux LoRA competition at Civit for any interested

[bitter hearth]

not rly into Loras, I just use base models

[errant dust]

THat would be ok if the base model could create even remotely some of the things I want

[sacred jewel]

If ther top prize isn;t $124,198.76 USD, I am out, 😛 😛 😛

[errant dust]

oooohhh. By a dollar!

Their LoRA creating tool is super cheap monetarily so....

[bitter hearth]

I only make the same image over and over so my bar is pretty low

[sacred jewel]

Used it twice so far...

[errant dust]

I mean Replicate's is potentially a lot faster but nowhere near as cheap

No idea what Civit uses, but Repliacte builds on A100s

https://replicate.com/ostris/flux-dev-lora-trainer/train

[sacred jewel]

I thought Replicate is using H100s?

[errant dust]

I can only state what the page says

Oh!

My bad. Say H100

[bitter hearth]

$0.001528 per second
$5.5008 per hour
this price is not that great rly

they quote per second prices for a reason 😄

[errant dust]

The issue is how many hours are needed

but I will say this: they offer automated labeling of your images

whihc is a nice feture

[bitter hearth]

oh yeah that's nice

[errant dust]

Anyone know how many hours to expect using it?

[sacred jewel]

My CivitAI LoRAs have taken no more than :45 minutes... but not sure how they're queued... of if the VRAM is shared or the GPU dedicated etc. etc.

[errant dust]

That is ridiculously fast. Cool. Question: how were the results? Did you have to furnish your own labels? I have not used it yet

[sacred jewel]

I used about 300+ images from a public dataset (which I shared as well) tagged with GTP. I upload the whole thing in a single ZIP file.

Here is the link:

https://civitai.com/models/670153/yfg-spyworld50sflux-gpt4

[sacred jewel]

and a previous generation with less steps

https://civitai.com/models/660770/yfg-spyworldflux

[dusky thistle]

training your own loras is where it's at

it's addictive

[errant dust]

ok, so you have to make your own labels

for Civit

not complaining, just to know

[dusky thistle]

your captions are at least as important as what you train on

you def want to be looking at those with your own eyes, even if only briefly

[sacred jewel]

No, They do have an option to tag / label your images if you want them to

[errant dust]

I can completely appreciate this

[dusky thistle]

gpt4o writes solid captions but it does do some shit grammatically that doesn't make sense for captions

the best example is it'll use commas in ways that separate tags

"a woman standing in a cold, dark basement" = a woman standing in a cold... whatever that is

[errant dust]

I wonder what Ideogram uses. I have also heard good things about Claude for making promts. Maybe this translates to good image descriptions too

[dusky thistle]

"creating a warm, inviting environment" = an action creating a warm, instead of what you want which is just "a warm inviting environment"

those are the two biggies

[bitter hearth]

you could probably prompt for it to not do that

[errant dust]

NO worries. I am well aware of ChatGPT's oddities in writing

[dusky thistle]

you can but it's tough to talk it out of doing that shit 100% of the time

[bitter hearth]

was this another dream

[dusky thistle]

Act as a creative agent who generates a pair of highly creative detailed 70 word image prompts derived from each uploaded image. Begin each prompt by specifying an artistic style (such as a type of painting or illustration or drawing, etc., for example, oil or acrylic or watercolor painting, or charcoal drawing or engraving or sculpture, etc.) or camera settings, using descriptive elements that explain what makes the artistic style or camera settings unique. Then, continue with descriptive visual elements of the subject, surroundings, and background. Please do not omit any details, especially objects, lighting, colors, and textures, even subtle ones hidden in the background! It is imperative that you carefully consider every aspect of the image, and provide satisfactory descriptions! Also, please be very careful when considering whether the image really is a photograph or actually a detailed painting or illustration. Include elements presented as discrete descriptors in one long 70 word sentence without story. Put the most important descriptive elements at the beginning of the sentence. Only respond with the 70 word prompt, don't preface the prompt with anything else. Use simple language. Limit your response to one sentence. Each prompt should be 70 words long. Please create a pair of 70 word image prompts for each uploaded image.

[dusky thistle]

Surreal digital painting with a deep blue and red color palette, a child standing inside a large, jagged circular opening leading into an underwater scene, holding a basketball, a pool of water reflecting the child's silhouette, subtle textures of underwater flora and the rocky opening, rays of light filtering through the water, dreamy and mysterious atmosphere with high contrast and intricate details.```

that's my captioning prompt

[errant dust]

I have had Discord itself, not sure what they use, highlight my grammar with red underlines, and I stared and immediately knew it was full of s***

[dusky thistle]

i use it with batches of 8 images

the numbers are tuned for that... the more images you feed it, the shorter the responses you get

[bitter hearth]

thanks this prompt is nice
been using the auraflow prompt so far

[dusky thistle]

i try to use at least two different captions for every image... onetrainer shuffles randomly between each caption for each epoch

[errant dust]

onetrainer?

[sacred jewel]

https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer

[errant dust]

well, being hardware limited, I can only yuse online tools I think

[sacred jewel]

and have the patience of a saint

[bitter hearth]

kolors

[bitter hearth]

kolors knows what Naboo is 🤔

[mortal mesa]

but that Tatooine, Naboo looks different

[bitter hearth]

ah yeah you're right

SDXL has a Naboo lora that gives you true Naboo, its a little over-fit though

[sage burrow]

Did it work for you? I'm one of the 50% that got the compressed file doesn't work error 😦

[sage burrow]

got a notbook or vast setup for that? 😄

[sacred jewel]

It is literally running right now... I'll let you know... just got time to play with it today

[sacred jewel]

I run it locally... it actually works great. Thanks to @torn wharf for the heads up and help with OT

(I just wish I knew what I was doing)

[errant dust]

I haven't tried yet

[sage burrow]

DId you use the normal or the cost an extra 200 buz version? Mine with the extra buzz usually take about an hour. Though in the past with my regular ones I've had some that take 8 hours.

[sacred jewel]

Regular... I am patient

[sage burrow]

Works out to approx $2 per lora which is the same as civitai

[bitter hearth]

but I am also calling that expensive

[sage burrow]

Cheaper than a new computer 😄
I can't wait for more affordable options!

[sage burrow]

20cents vs my impatience... 😄

[bitter hearth]

I meant its expensive relative to vast.ai

[errant dust]

You think 2 dollars is expensive? Really? A good machine with nothing set up will cost more than that per hour on Vast.AI, and the doesn't include all the ready-made software that is just there for you

[bitter hearth]

A100 80GB is under 2 dollars per hour

[errant dust]

uh-huh. Does it come ready made for you to build your LoRA? Send your material and output it? And on a sidenote, how much time will you need to do all that and obtain your LoRA?

[bitter hearth]

yeah there are templates

you're just spending more money for no benefit

[errant dust]

My time is a benefit

[sage burrow]

Do you happen to know of any premade vast workflows for lora, or checkpoint making? 😄
Skill level = html lol

[errant dust]

He said he does

[sage burrow]

I think civita $2 was a good deal when I amde a 1000 image lora once. But it seems to have lowered the amount of images you can use now (500 perhaps)

[torn wharf]

get yer loras here. hot spicy loras. $2 a pop. hot salty lora balls get yer loras out

https://tenor.com/view/sausage-party-dance-gif-5212802

[errant dust]

I spend 2 bucks just on an espresso out of my home. But I have also used Vast.AI extensively and the process takes time. First you need to enter the service, make a bid on the machine, have it accepted, load your software, even if a ready-made Docker, set up a system to upload and download your files, etc. I did this a hundred times at least, simply because the machines would go offline here and there. All in all, there is time spent on all this, no matter how well-oiled your system is

[bitter hearth]

is kohya trainer ok?

[errant dust]

and frankly, a half hour of my time, even if the pure dollar cost were the same, is money. I most definitely value my time at more than 2-4 bucks per hour

[bitter hearth]

but it takes about 5 minutes to go from google.com to a running comfy instance

[sage burrow]

My fear of forgetting to turn the instance off when I'm done, and my credit card being maxed, has definitely slowed down my lora creation on clouds!

[bitter hearth]

LOL this happened to me once on rundiffusion

[sage burrow]

That's the one civitai uses. Most people seem to use it, not on civitai as well.

[bitter hearth]

you can set limits though

[errant dust]

it is worse than that frankly. If you sit there regularly loading machines to use for 15 or fewer minutes this will reflect on your reputation

[sage burrow]

Yikes, did it turn off automatically after a bit? Hopefully.

[bitter hearth]

if you like kohya then there is a koyha template in the current vast defaults

it turned off eventually yeah

[errant dust]

The stuff about 'saving one dollar' to make a LoRA is anathema to me to avoid that dollar and pay for it in ease-of-use. If I made thousands, I might see the light, but otherwise?

[sage burrow]

what was your bill? lol

[sage burrow]

Oh ty for the info 🙂

I have to figure out how to install that uncensored LLM I downloaded....

for tagging 😄

[bitter hearth]

but you just boot in and wait about 5 minutes
for it to set up
that's it

and then install stuff like this:

wget -O 4xNomosWebPhoto_atd.safetensors "https://github.com/Phhofm/models/releases/download/4xNomosWebPhoto_atd/4xNomosWebPhoto_atd.safetensors" && \
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then \
    sudo supervisorctl restart comfyui; \
else \
    echo "Download failed, restart aborted."; \
fi```

[errant dust]

not exactly. You need to know how long it will take, and get your file, and shut it all down

[bitter hearth]

yeah you need to get your files but that little snipped I just put will get anything

[errant dust]

It is not "press here and it will be ready when you come back"

[bitter hearth]

you could use a script to shut it down when its done

[sage burrow]

For those who have tried both, do the cloud lora makers through various programs, end up with producing better resultimg images from your lora, than from using civitai?

[errant dust]

Yeah, all this to save a buck. I can really see the light now

[bitter hearth]

if you use exact same settings it would be same

[bitter hearth]

but its a few lines of code that you only have to write once

[errant dust]

lol

Dude, my budget is not that of a college kid or teenager. I certainly save money with decisions, but that is nowhere near something I would consider.

[sacred jewel]

Remember the old saying:

The Computer You Want, is ALWAYS $5,000 dollars

I am waiting for the day when NVIDIA pays ME to use their HH5000 MEGA ULTRA GPU 😛 😛 😛

[errant dust]

I'm sure there are plenty of ML researchers and developers already enjoying that privilege

[bitter hearth]

the Pixart team moved to nvidia yeah

[sacred jewel]

I said ME, a car park attendant from The South Bronx, NYC 😛

[bitter hearth]

its a bit of a risk that nvidia won't let the next pixart have as nice a license

[errant dust]

Dreams don't die based on the present. Chase'em

[bitter hearth]

I do agree that sometimes its worth paying for convenience.
I use rundiffusion.com when I am feeling lazy

they just have everything setup

[torn wharf]

my current one is about $5k of parts (at resale). my dream pc is up towards the 10k mark now

[errant dust]

I will likely try that local software here. Convenicne be damned, because it will be a fun puzzle to figure out. But I will also without question be trying both Civit and Replicate

[sacred jewel]

Yeah, the WANT is always relative. My number of $5,000 was from back in 2000 - 2015 era... nowadays the WANT is more like $55,000 lol

Water Cooled Quad H100 rack mounted behemoth... would be nice

[torn wharf]

yeah rack server in the basement is the dream

[bitter hearth]

I'm considering doing a home build as well at this point, with used 3090s
and then only use cloud for the big GPUs of 40GB vram and above

[torn wharf]

use it for home heating

[errant dust]

Dunno. I have seen laptops with a 4090 (laptop version therefore 16GB VRAM) for under $2000 stateside

[sacred jewel]

Dual Use... nice... thinking green planet, huh?

I want that site in upstate NY with a built in hydroelectric power plant that company bought to run 24x7 Bitcoin Mining...

[errant dust]

and that comes with screen, KB, and many cored CPU

[torn wharf]

i'm not sure if mobile 4090 is the same silicon as a dgpu 4090

just the same brand

[sacred jewel]

It's the same silly con but, tuned WAAAAYYY down.

[bitter hearth]

advantage of a home 3090 would be trying modern gaming too i guess

[torn wharf]

i'm in BC so we're on all hydro more or less. there's some carbon sources on our electricity but majority we're green energy on my island circuit. i dont care about saving money for carbon at all. i dont' even believe that individual homes coudl change their energy usage in a way that would significantly offset global carbon emmisions.

I'm just cheap and heating bills are nightmares

[errant dust]

I keep telling that to myself when I upgrade the local rig, but it never really happens. Too many other things taking up attention, including my very jealous mistress: chess

[bitter hearth]

haha lichess is the main game I play 😄

I'm a queens gambit declined player

[errant dust]

Yes, studying chess is very time consuming

[torn wharf]

modern gaming got pretty good. red dead 2 alone is chefs kiss.

[bitter hearth]

oh yeah i need to try red dead

[torn wharf]

i've never played the others in the series. just rdr2

it's more or less self contained

[bitter hearth]

Subtle is a giga chess player

[errant dust]

not sure about how that is defined, but yeah, it has been a huge part of my life and livelihood

[torn wharf]

i used to play lots of chess. notsure why i stopped. oh wait yeah i remember. i hit a hard skill wall

[bitter hearth]

Chess is too hard

[torn wharf]

my brain with 3 moves ahead 🤯

[errant dust]

Nah. Any activity with enough layers can be called hard. Being a top player is hard, but the game itself is not

(I am not a top player, just a middling master)

[torn wharf]

i play suduko to get my layers on

sometimes a parfait

evrybody like a parfait

[bitter hearth]

I play chess like a fighting game

[mortal mesa]

ive gotten a black eye playing chess

[torn wharf]

this is what 4d chess should look like. startrek is out of touch with the 3d chess

[bitter hearth]

I do everything wrong and regret it

[torn wharf]

so many regretful chess moves. especially when you're considering like 8 moves in advance and think you're hot shit, but you didn't see his bishop

or hers if you're playing princess peach

or other women who play chess too.

[errant dust]

Here's an article I wrote on chess progress back when I was editor of CB News: https://en.chessbase.com/post/chess-progress-making-the-big-leap

[bitter hearth]

[torn wharf]

chess hasn't been too exciting since fischer stopped being so public about communism

[torn wharf]

this is the next benchmark. when will be able to prompt a chess game notation and get an accurate board

[bitter hearth]

Squares are always the problem

We need balls

propaganda of we need your balls here

[torn wharf]

keep calm. ball on.

[bitter hearth]

[errant dust]

Actually, the number of squares in chess boards is where the AIs really stumble tragically, but truth be told, movies seem to get the plain orientation of the board and pieces wrong more often than not. Some notable ones like Casablanca don't, but that is because Humphrey Bogart had lived as a chess hustler before being an actor

[torn wharf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1f0hs79/you_can_train_handwriting_loras_with_flux/ with these secrets unlocked, it may be possible to create the one ball to rule them all

[bitter hearth]

Movies get everything wrong

[errant dust]

And some actors are also known chess aficionados. Some surprising ones, like Schwarzenegger, who is a major chess fan

[torn wharf]

tv chess be like https://youtu.be/v4cefbkif9E

[errant dust]

https://en.chessbase.com/post/2016-arnold-classic-brasil-bonanza-of-fun-1-2

[sacred jewel]

I beat IBM Deep Blue about 5 times, but I do not like to brag 👀

[torn wharf]

this is one of my fave arnold moments because he wasn't just like "ARNOLD SMASH RUARH GET TO THE CHOPPA" or throw the board like a grenade and shout "GET DAHOOOWN" . just good wholesome arnie crushing his enemies and driving them

[torn wharf]

low poly balls

[bitter hearth]

That sounds like some outdated ai >.>

[bitter hearth]

I don't remember them well

[sacred jewel]

It also sounds like a big fat joke

[bitter hearth]

[torn wharf]

no i think it was an ai joke

[bitter hearth]

You dare lie on the internet

I'm reporting you to Google

[sacred jewel]

Deep Blue was IBMs early Deep Learning platform... it competed in Jeopardy and famously beat Gary Kasparov eventually.

[torn wharf]

"deep blue so fat when it sits around the house, it sits AROUND the house" would be a fat joke

[sacred jewel]

But your name isn't .... nah never mind LOLOLOL

[torn wharf]

jeopardy was watson

[sacred jewel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_(chess_computer)

[sacred jewel]

Ah... ok...

[torn wharf]

kind of wonder how one of these open source quantized language models would do on jeop

[sacred jewel]

Flux just generated this with one of the Xlabs loras... LOL

[bitter hearth]

I prompted for balls let's see what we get

[errant dust]

There are bazillions of articles on it of course, but I did write my own trilogy in which I compared the output of its logs with that of a modern engine. https://en.chessbase.com/post/komodo-8-deep-blue-revisited-part-one

[short thicket]

Tried to do a ball monster. Not really ball shaped though.

[bitter hearth]

The reflection look like mini balls

It's balls on balls action

[torn wharf]

just a giant pile of shiny balls nothing rude about it

[sage burrow]

DId anyone else count the fingers throughout that? :>

[sage burrow]

"a spherical monster in the shape and style of the 80's toy Ballz"

[bitter hearth]

I'll press that button

[torn wharf]

lol woman armor designs. do you figure they're just knocking around in that iron bucket while she's in battle? as if the nipple dimples are giving them space to float freely? girl would have such a bruised chest by the time she was done the day. consider the purpose of modern sports bras. woman warriors would have some sort of leather garmet that would contain her jiggly bits before putting on the plating. Like do you think a guy is going to cage his nuts in plating, in a way that they'd bounce around inside? anime armor design seirously serrrriously.

[sacred jewel]

They're padded with ultra suede

[torn wharf]

ballz is just my lora tag. "Mad Balls" seems to be understood by sd3 and flux. less so in flux cause of the distillation, but i think it knows about them deep down

[sacred jewel]

(or is it alcantara leather?)

[torn wharf]

then why even engineer nipple dimples?!

[runic tusk]

Because Tim Burton.

[torn wharf]

shock an awe?? .. hmm actually that might be a good reason

[torn wharf]

schumaker you mean. burton's didn't have the nips

[runic tusk]

Tim didn't want to do Batman anymore. So then we get Shitmaker's nipples.

I blame Tim for leaving the franchise.

[torn wharf]

I still appreciate Val as the bat

but yeah.

[sacred jewel]

Might be a fast H100 but it looks like they have only one LOL

[torn wharf]

Clooney is the best Bruce Wayne too, but not the best bat

neither of which i credit to "shitmaker" lol

[sacred jewel]

Those are caps so she can breast feed between sword fights without taking off the armor

[torn wharf]

oh shiiii.. lol

i'm just a bigot this whole time

[sacred jewel]

The BEST Batman will always be Animated Comic Batman... change my mind

[torn wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-running-bomb-nope-no-gif-17677689

[sacred jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[sacred jewel]

Acting so bad it was brilliant

[runic tusk]

I appreciate all of them for various reasons, but Keaton is still the best all-around portrayal, in my opinion. He is the one who has best conveyed on-screen that Bruce Wayne was the costume, not Batman.

[torn wharf]

thye just threw all the dark themes right out the window when they did that show

[torn wharf]

he was the only part of the new flash that made it worth it to see

Keaton man taking down a kryptonian. Hot.

[runic tusk]

Otherwise, that movie was like 95% trainwreck.

[sage burrow]

Darnit, I was doing that from memory! I clearly had a boring childhood (no mad'ballz)

[sage burrow]

and bikini armour, well it all obviously has some sort of magic shield attached which surrounds the body lol

[sacred jewel]

They're not Mad... they're just less joyful 😛

[torn wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/madness-crazy-the-simpsons-homer-gif-8057397

[sage burrow]

Disgruntled monsters

[torn wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/fembots-bra-pistols-bra-gun-trendizisst-boobs-gun-gif-14728524

[sage burrow]

did you try clicking on it? That works depending

[short thicket]

I see it now. 🤣

[rain current]

flux > kling

[sage burrow]

Discord hides stuff if it's "sensitive", or if it was posted too long ago.

[sage burrow]

Apparently I'd gotten the toy name wrong "madballz"
Though "those round foamy monster things from the 80's would prob even work lol)

[short thicket]

Who's model?

[bitter hearth]

my Flux Hyper checkpoint

[sage burrow]

Ack, wrong window, so glad it didn't work the way I intended!!!

[bitter hearth]

i did wonder lol

[short thicket]

"eldritchpunk, madballz, spherical monsters as planets in space"

[torn wharf]

This implies that draton milk is a thing

[hallow lion]

Ball Rain.

[bitter hearth]

lol that leg tuck was pretty special

[torn wharf]

I move away from the mic to inhale

[errant dust]

(Imagen 3)

Ideogram 2

Flux Pro

Dall-E 3

[sage burrow]

It's Flux checkpoint merge day again today

[sage burrow]

Asian style dragon, impressive

[bitter hearth]

ty