🆕｜sd3

[mortal kite]

I'd like to know where this rumor of dividing the prompt even started

[sacred jewel]

My above example but deleted the CLIP-L and -G

[sacred jewel]

SD3 research paper...

[mortal kite]

Well, that's a weird monster 😄 😄

[sacred jewel]

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2403.03206

I did not ... I let er rip 😛

[mortal kite]

but if you read your L and G they pretty much contain similar info to T5 prompt but more summarized

[sacred jewel]

I mean if the machines can't help me, and I have to help [it] what's the point? LOLOL

[mortal kite]

I'm not seeing where L and G have their own dedicated words , in that prompt example really

[scenic shadow]

Source, mine, yours

yours def got the glowing better represented

[bitter hearth]

[mortal kite]

bottom right one looks like MJ

[bitter hearth]

Try again

[sacred jewel]

Always think of it this way... in the end, it is a stream of tokens going into the KSampler...

All you;re doing is scrambling it ...

So, the different encoders SCRAMBLE the bits in very different but CRITICAL ways... It is not TOO random... it is more controlled to get to the trained data to output what you want.

It is not trivial to just leave this or that out... you [can] but you should understand the WHY of it all before casting yopur net into the water 😉

hope that made sense.

[bitter hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-mickael-jackson-queendugif-ahah-hehe-gif-13642339

[sacred jewel]

Damn that is nearly identical... to my eyes.

[mortal kite]

right, so the theory is, the information may become too complex/scrambled for L and G to properly understand if its all combined?

its like we tell a group of kids we want an image but one kid is 18 (T5) and the other two are 6 years old 😄

and they all work on the image together, we can't give the 6 year olds any details cause they don't know em 😄

[scenic shadow]

thats kinda the active model my brain has been using unironically for understanding and explaining to the gpt how to prompt for them

one is in charge of the character in the middle and he sketches something, the other sketches the background and the last takes that image idea and draws it from the ground up in detail

can you upload images of the generate it made and ask it analyze them and reiterate the prompt?

yeah ive had some of that as well.

ill give mine a couple iteration passes.

overall it seems to improve the quailty for mine

an interation of your from you gpt

[scenic shadow]

and mine

id say atm i think yours is doing better over all with exact same inputs

mines not bad by any means but it lost its colors

yeah mines like an hour of me explaining to the builder the syntax of how to use a comma and a semicolon

XD

[bitter hearth]

Joker corrupted Batman

[scenic shadow]

ill have to steal some ideas from your system prompt to enhance mine at somepoint. im heading off to bed

[sacred jewel]

Prompt Research Assistant

Prompt Crafter

[silver sluice]

@scenic shadow has anyone told you that your afro is reminiscent of bob ross'?

the quality of the images using this 3-part text system really does show much better it performs

[frigid mango]

great work! Hope the now available finetuning will show nice results as well and we will have a new great model

[sacred jewel]

Might be down to the A:R, seed, Ksampler settings 🤷‍♂️

Unless each gen from the GPT is that different each time?

[silver sluice]

now if only CivitAI could get an answer on the license so they could unban SD3 we'd have some cool finetune models to download on there, SD3 feels kinda stuck in the mud w/o CivitAI's support imo

[frigid mango]

By all the information we got so far it sounds like something is going on. Also new CEO will either push heavily in the right direction or the opposite. I think there will be clarity very soon!

[desert garnet]

its the ppl who make the models,before civitai we had hugginface and torrents to share models but a lot of ppl were training them because of 1.5 license

[silver sluice]

i tried getting on huggingface to find random sd3 finetunes but it's not the same, like civitai's presentation of models with sample images and community feedback just makes it much more pleasent to browse potential downloads

huggingface i just type sd3 in the search and i get a bunch of random search results and there's only text to read nothing visual, its just not the same w/o civit, well need that clarity soon if we want SD3 to really thrive with the community imo

[sacred jewel]

I don't ... It will be a year or more before there is clarity from SAI.

Their track record shows this to be the case.

First off, they have no official P.R. department constantly engaged. This let's the public go wild with ideas that are likely wrong but the ONLY voice. So rumors will become reality 🤷‍♂️

[desert garnet]

thats true you can try with shakker.ai you can find SD3 there,but theres not a lot of finetunes because not a lot of ppl are training due to license

[muted cargo]

Sadly, we re talking in big corpo time scale here. Moreover it would nt help anyone if they released an imprecise and rushed version of their license just to calm the drama. I m pretty sure nobody (including them and some sai devs here already acknowledged it) is happy about the situation. So let s give it time. Note that most of the complains "only" impact professional usage, you can still tinker with sd3 on your local install.

[silver sluice]

civitai was popping off with loras and finetunes, we had a good 20+ loras and finetunes before civitai brought down the hammer and that was within like thes span of the first 4 or 5 days of it's release

[silver sluice]

agreed

[desert garnet]

you can still find those loras at shakker

[silver sluice]

ive never been to that site ill def check it out thx for the tip, I'm messing with cody's prompt generator, pretty cool stuff

I think a glif using Cody's prompt + chatgpt or claude would be pretty cool, or a Comfy node where you can connect it to chatgpt or claude to fill in the 3 boxes for you would be pretty sweet too

the first two is the same text all in the 3 boxes, the last 2 is the text broken up into it's own box. the ones on the right seem to have a better color range again vs putting it all in the same text looks flatter more muted (fixed seed for all)

[silver sluice]

@sage burrow SD3 + glif won't see more features

I tried making a custom glif with the triple text encoder input and turns out it's not supported and won't be until SAI figures their stuff out with licensing

[bitter hearth]

the squirrel fell in love with the tree tail

aww cute

[odd basalt]

Chat gpt is behind and is over filtered

[craggy crest]

switch over to Claude, seriously.

[mortal mesa]

i call it the brand wars

[signal shuttle]

It's like android vs iphone, like just use what you like, it's not that serious

[desert garnet]

which one is the android here though

[bitter hearth]

me

[desert garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-pepe-gif-8145044083223085060

[bitter hearth]

ugly monster go away

[pastel latch]

which ever one your parents have even heard of in this case chatgpt

[mortal mesa]

i think we should switch to Mac, i heard its better for digital art

[pastel latch]

i like to use the magic mouse while its charging

for ergonomics

[desert garnet]

excuse me can you talk louder i cant hear you im using my macbook at my local starbucks and its too noisy

[bitter hearth]

[low stone]

anime art, Grotesque Pikachu creature, taking a selfie, burning football stadium, sky filled with alien ships, eerie green lighting, chaotic crowd fleeing, otherworldly creatures descending, intense smoke everywhere, neon electric bolts, unsettling facial expression

[craggy crest]

once you use claude for a bit, you might change your mind ...

[desert garnet]

he needs to be wearing glasses,a fedora or a trilby,a peruvian hand made bag,a scarf and browse reddit to be considered a proper macbook user

[bitter hearth]

[lucid swift]

Are there any finetunes / liras that acualy do something for sd3?

[sacred jewel]

SDXL vs SD3 base models... Same seed, same KSampler settings. Only difference are the source empty latent (from SDXL) for both models and the model shift and negative conditioners for default SD3 workflow.

Interestingly, the SD3 Empty Latent is not compatible with SDXL but the SDXL emty latent is compatible with SD3 ...

[odd basalt]

It is fitting for sure 😂 it’s like a car and u lift up the hood has all the same parts

[granite kestrel]

how do you guys use sd3 ?

its not working for me nothing works for some reasons

[sacred jewel]

Default workflows from SAI? Comfy/?

share your workflow here

[odd basalt]

All the bots do the same thing just some are more updated than others

[granite kestrel]

idk wht that is i use automatic1111 version 1.9.4 (i'm kinda new to all the AI world so i don't have the vocabulary that should be used)

[bitter hearth]

the main advantage of switching away from GPT is sampling

[sacred jewel]

Gotcha... OK, A1111 should work too by now.

[bitter hearth]

OpenAI are very behind on samplers at this point

[granite kestrel]

look in techsupport channel i'm sharing my struggling in there

[sleek shell]

why you telling them our secret

[bitter hearth]

the foreground lighting is good

[sacred jewel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1dh0z5v/sd3_support_has_been_added_to_automatic1111/

[mortal mesa]

a little cooked, wasnt cooperating

[sacred jewel]

100 steps, CFG 5

150 steps, CFG 2.0

The prompt if anyone wants to play:

A mesmerizing Gothic fantasy portrait rendered in digital painting, showcasing a young woman adorned with a meticulously detailed metallic mask. The mask, with its intricate and ornate designs, envelops her face in cool hues of blue-gray and metallic silver. Her long, wavy hair, cascading in silver-gray waves, adds to her ethereal presence. The backdrop, softly illuminated by warm candlelight, provides a stark contrast, highlighting the focal point: her intense, enigmatic eyes. The composition is masterfully balanced, with a shallow depth of field that draws the viewer's attention to the elaborate details of the mask and the soft, reflective textures of the metal.

[muted cargo]

That's an overkill ammount of steps but cool.

[odd basalt]

I completely agree … Gemini and meta are up to date with correct prompting and not filtered out …. I’m seeing more of the same art from chatgpt no matter how different the prompts are

[signal shuttle]

Funny to think that 150 steps used to be the standard, now 50 is considered overkill

[teal fossil]

150 were stupid even during the v1-4 days. I'm pretty sure the "20 Steps Euler A" days reigned early and for a long time.

[signal shuttle]

well i never used 20 Steps in both 1.4 and 1.5, all i used was 150 and it was decently fast

[kindred mica]

hey y'all want to contribute to list of best practices for how to use SD3?
DM me

[faint breach]

The first best practice should be "DONT PANIC"

[stiff sparrow]

first best practice should be reading license

[keen palm]

Just finetune with sdxl and don't tell anyone

[stiff sparrow]

and then, right after - don't panic, yea

[faint breach]

try to add some levity an it's all so cereal still

the first page is always don't panic. i guess the reference is too old to get

[sage burrow]

That's really unfortunate 😦
How about huggingface?

[silver sluice]

not sure i just got on the glif discord and asked the devs and they said nope SD3 is staying as-is until they can get clarification on the license stuff

[faint breach]

The silence from the new leadership at stabilty is deafening. Don't think the community is going to like the big reveal tbh

[sage burrow]

Better than Gemini advanced?

[craggy crest]

best to just consider SD3 medium as non-commercial since it's still in beta, isn't finished, and the actual commercial release is only part of the API right now

[silver sluice]

we could be having a cool v7 pony model, and the ability to browse and follow trending new models based on SD3 on civitai and novel new ways to create images on glif, and all we need is for SAI to just say something, just officially say something

[craggy crest]

in my opinion. your milage may very

[faint breach]

if you're operating within the $20 self serve license, sd3 is super viable for commercial use

individual creators rather than widely deployed services

[bitter hearth]

glif is an interesting site

[devout schooner]

You guys hear about Walmart's new approach to security?

[faint breach]

Really bummed out that it's Mid monday after the new CEO and investors acquired the product, and they're still radio silent. This doesn't bode well for community prospects. I was expecting something to be said today.

[bitter hearth]

I expect their legal team are swamped

Better than Gemini advanced?
IDK how to prompt Gemini, it doesn't follow me

[faint breach]

Radio silence isn't good from leadership. The new CEO isn't the legal team and can make all the time he needs since he's the CEO

[craggy crest]

do you know how long it takes to get lawyers to sign off on the wording of a contract that's been called into question?

[bitter hearth]

corporate law takes ages

[signal shuttle]

corporate time is different from regular time, haven't you heard of valve time?

[hollow apex]

probably a good idea to consult the legal team before making decisions that could cause trouble

[faint breach]

Where did i say anything about the license?

Radio silence is radio silence. Didn't even say hello to the community.

He's not here to make friends

[faint breach]

TBF, Valve isn't exactly a standard corporation. When the founders die though it could go that way 😦

Leadership changes are meaningful

[craggy crest]

i'ts only monday. for crying out loud. He just started a new job, doesn't even know his staff, and you want him to put out press releases. you are way too impatient

[sage burrow]

Gemini advanced is amazing for code help, everyday life help, etc. But SUCKS at image rendering. I mean MJ 2022 level of images

[solar gale]

I personally trust Gaben in particular is smarter than to not plan ahead. I do hear that he hand picks board members (iirc) and plans for his son to continue the company after him(?)

[faint breach]

TIL the opposite of radio silence is many press releases....

You've gotten worse since i rebuked you in PM. Please stop engaging with me @craggy crest and i'lll try to do the same with you.

[sage burrow]

Y'all reminding me of a customer I had once (not ai related) who go angry bc I didn't reply within 4hrs on Christmas day 🤣

[faint breach]

i have hope too. he's built quite a legacy. it would suck to see it dissolve.

[craggy crest]

i haven't changed at all. and you ignored the apology you demanded and I tried to provide. i'll stop engaging when you stop acting so negative all the time

[hallow lion]

first bets practice is to wait for civitai to unban it 😄

oh wait

Daily popcorn time? What ar eu up to now wizard

😄

[faint breach]

no popcorn. he tried to gossip in private with me and i had feelings about that and his past treatment of me. ignored him after that because he blamed his actions on everyone else's emotions

[hallow lion]

puts away the popcorn

[faint breach]

pretty boring narcisist shit

[bitter hearth]

Gemini advanced is amazing for code help, everyday life help, etc. But SUCKS at image rendering. I mean MJ 2022 level of images

ah okay I use GPT 4o for that

although GPT 4o hallucinations can be a bit tricky

with Gemini advanced it just needs a slightly different prompting style I guess but I haven't got the hang of it yet

[sage burrow]

@kindred mica I still don't understand this ban thing everyone speaks of?

[untold valley]

Hello 👋🏻 any new advancements or developments?

[sleek shell]

SDN is out

[hallow lion]

mebbie some stuff slipped thru the cracks but as i understand sd3 and sd3 related stuff is banned for now

which sux i bet some finetunes would be up by now and my harddrive would start to fill up

i know there ar eother sites but im used to civitai and i trust it

[untold valley]

SDN?

[sage burrow]

Huggingface is pretty awesome 🙂

[sage burrow]

I may have had to scroll through way too many worgliws to find an actual lora lol

[signal shuttle]

Use eulercfg++, that improves SD3 by a long shot

[faint breach]

it's just grandstanding by civit. i don't think stability is going to do business with them in the future and they are protecting themselves by dumping them first kind of thing.

[craggy crest]

you could try telling the truth. i told you we'd figured out what the issue is. that was a technical comment which i figured you might find useful since you were having problems. you then screamed at me, demanded an apology, and ignored the one i provided.

[faint breach]

the truth is just boring. like i said. i just don't like you and see no need for private conversation with you.

let it go dude. move on. stop engaging me.

[untold valley]

[placid swallow]

my popcorn sense is tingling

[untold valley]

Is this two friends fighting, backstabbing drama 🎭 👏🏼

[faint breach]

i've never known them in any context other than how they interact with me on this server

[signal shuttle]

Today is really popcorn day isn't

the popcorn industry is popping off

[sage burrow]

Where'd all the art go on this channel? 😦

[pastel latch]

i ship it

[bitter hearth]

oh look

the guy who blocked me for no reason is fighting someone 👍

[stiff sparrow]

144mb model?

[devout schooner]

Some suspect this doctor might be on the take

[bitter hearth]

its a lora

[hallow lion]

Where are the 4GB of Vram here? 😮

[sage burrow]

That is pretty large for a lora!

[green shoal]

girl hanging upside down from rope

[dull star]

beautiful

[bitter hearth]

[stiff sparrow]

are you running SD3 on 4gb? I didn't even try on my 1050 ti lol

[bitter hearth]

I can't even run comfyui

[stiff sparrow]

wot

[bitter hearth]

mine is AMD

[stiff sparrow]

ooooh I see

[bitter hearth]

I am just using the API

[placid swallow]

how much memory does the API use up? hopefully you have some left over

[hallow lion]

4GB AND AMD instead on Nvidia... :/

[bitter hearth]

AND a card from 2018

[hallow lion]

gives you 24GB of Vram Nvidia

[bitter hearth]

[hallow lion]

I will email it to you. all the Vrams

just download it

[bitter hearth]

downloadmorevram . com or something im ready

[stiff sparrow]

gimme some too lol

[hallow lion]

hell yeah free vrams for everyone

[signal shuttle]

Got 2 rtx 3090's, bought them for 3D work, using them for AI, world's too fast man

[placid swallow]

@bitter hearth this your card?

[hallow lion]

tell me about it, the community just embraced SDXL when i upgraded and now it sbecoming oboslete

[keen palm]

Not obsolete yet, 2 more weeks. after euro 2024 they have time for big announcement

Just waiting for the license to be updated. Any minute now

[hallow lion]

when hardware will become more powerful we will probably move more towards training personalized checkpoints rather than downloading eveyrthing.

From what I understand if you are not using the commercial license you can do whatever you want...

[bitter hearth]

let me speed up the wait for you

[placid swallow]

I dream of them everytime I'm refreshing civit for sd3 checkpoints

[hallow lion]

They wear Emad badges

[keen palm]

Paint is superior

[odd basalt]

Exactly why I do not use it to generate images so behind on images 😂 but the prompts are up to date and advanced… they work greaat for SD3 model and horror art

[bitter hearth]

I asked for a mspaint drawing

[keen palm]

What about "A black line drawing of a hand with five elongated fingers. The lines are thin and unshaded. The background is entirely white. The drawing appears to be minimalistic and lacks detailed features or textures. The lines are slightly irregular giving a hand-drawn feel"?

[hallow lion]

if theres a list f most frequently requested images- cats and boobs ar eup there

[keen palm]

Show off, I still like my hand 😦

[bitter hearth]

x3

[bitter hearth]

runs away

[placid swallow]

that finger is more scary than the monster

[kindred mica]

wheeeeze

[sacred jewel]

That's not bad actually.

[sacred jewel]

#AwesomeSauce

[idle parrot]

Wonder why they chose this title image on civitai

[sage burrow]

Cats w boobs?
Sorry, too much time on DA again lolololol

So what's today's theme? 🙂

[terse belfry]

Is civitai unblocked SD3 yet?

Waiting for finetuned versions

[keen palm]

No. 2 more weeks

[terse belfry]

Anyone pls try generating mermaid in SD3, All my attempts was a failure

[placid swallow]

what part of the mermaid fails top or bottom?

[terse belfry]

It just gives blurred images

Whenever there's a word "mermaid"

Couldn't even generate a single pic

[placid swallow]

enchanting Disney mermaid, vibrant tail scales, intricate seashell patterns, flowing hair with seaweed strands, deep oceanic eyes, sparkling underwater ambiance, soft ambient light rays piercing through the water'n surface, lush coral reef background, detailed texture on skin and fins, expressive face capturing curiosity and wonder, subtle interaction with marine life, cinematic depth of field for focus emphasis, realistic scale and proportion in relation to surrounding sea creatures, dynamic underwater lighting effects mimicking natural aquatic environment,

[terse belfry]

Wow

[placid swallow]

it is now Mermaid Monday

[terse belfry]

Idk why it's blocking for me. Lemme try ur prompt. Mby I should have used word disney

[odd basalt]

Simple prompt - little mermaid Pixar style

[placid swallow]

Cinematic lighting, soft glow, underwater ambiance, mermaid tail scales shimmer, vibrant sea colors, intricate patterns, iridescent, human-like features, friendly smile, casual waitress attire blended with marine elements, white apron with seashell buttons, pearl necklace, red hair tied in a loose braid, serving food on antique wooden table, retro diner style, checkered floor, patrons dressed in 1950s fashion, large framed glasses, classic soda fountain machine, realistic textures, high resolution, depth of field, selective focus technique, I guess she's a mermaid we just can't see her tail below the counter

[terse belfry]

Still gives me blurred pics 😭

[placid swallow]

that's prob glif censor cause skin?

[odd basalt]

The little mermaid fine detail, hdr, ::lora_detail0.1:: in the style of Tim burton Disney

[odd basalt]

I’m curious why it’s doing that for u :*(

Mermaid Monday \m/

[keen palm]

Ehm?? Tim Burton Disney? Shouldn't it look like this?

[placid swallow]

LOL i think it's getting it's diseny movies mixed up this is like Pirates of the Mermaids: Jaquelyn Sparrow's Revenge

[keen palm]

What you also can do is just to go for a upper body portrait 😉

[odd basalt]

I am too lazy to go that extra mile to replicate James and the giant peach 🍑 but it did get the colors and Disney Pixar style / cgi

[odd basalt]

😂 jack is a sexy Eric mermaid 😂

[placid swallow]

eerie atmosphere, Halloween vibe, Tim Burton's signature gothic flair, whimsical yet dark fantasy setting, intricate character design blending Pokémon with Nightmare Before Christmas elements, highly detailed creature features, Victorian architecture, oversized furniture and props for scale, deep shadows contrasting sharp light sources to enhance realism, rich autumnal colors palette, 4K ultra HD resolution, dramatic depth of field emphasizing subject focus

where my pokemon

[limpid drum]

Not a mermaid...

[odd basalt]

Gothic Monday Tim burton style 😂

[placid swallow]

now we cookin

[limpid drum]

Gotta catch them all! Except this, don't catch this...

[placid swallow]

not sure if I should poke it or squeeze it

[placid swallow]

beauty and the beast?

[odd basalt]

Yes

[placid swallow]

2beauties1beast

[wind basalt]

Is SD3 medium fixed yet

[keen palm]

Wrong party 😦

[pseudo owl]

no way these are sd3 2b, how did you even get that image?

[compact forge]

why not

[keen palm]

Took this image, sent to paint, add birthday party in background. Back to chatgpt and asked for a prompt

[placid swallow]

looks like we have a non-believer in 2b

[pseudo owl]

seems to be a diffusers issue then, give me a good prompt for sd3 2b

[placid swallow]

default image

[pseudo owl]

i got this lol

[placid swallow]

welcome to 2b

[pseudo owl]

thats what you got??

the only one supported in diffusers is euler so far btw

[placid swallow]

ethereal glow, atmospheric perspective, deep shadows, subtle textures, soft lighting transitions, layered depth, rich color palette, organic gradients, intricate details, high dynamic range, film grain, bokeh effect, natural environment integration,

[jagged sundial]

A young man, about 20 years old, with short chestnut hair and green eyes, takes a selfie in the autumn park. In the background you can see trees with bright yellow and orange leaves. He smiles, wearing a light gray sweater and a blue scarf. There are fallen leaves on the ground in the park, and the soft autumn sun is shining."

[odd basalt]

2B

[pseudo owl]

i suppose i needed to add default image in the beginning bc without i just got grass
its alright but not impressive imo

[mortal kite]

just buy one of these:

[mortal kite]

RTX 5090

[placid swallow]

looks like it runs hot

[mortal kite]

nope colder than ever 😄

[pseudo owl]

not bad, what prompt?

[odd basalt]

Rite I was thinking the same thing

[odd basalt]

Very detailed portrait in anime style of an adult woman wearing rocker clothes, leather jacket black jeans, extremely detailed face, (very detailed hair), creepy dungeon environment, (mushoku tensei merged with dungeons and dragons), JRPG, art by MSchiffer, pixiv, konachan, high contrast,

[odd basalt]

It looks cheap

[mortal kite]

I can't get more than 5 fans on it LOL

[odd basalt]

I would not waste money on that

[bitter hearth]

amazing prompt

[odd basalt]

I rather update the graphs card first

[placid swallow]

world's best

[mortal kite]

More compact design

I found pic of RTX 6090 :

its separate box on your desk 😄

[pseudo owl]

ok decent i guess
sd3 is first one
1 step hyper sdxl is 2nd one

[odd basalt]

Upscale now

[placid swallow]

now it's chopping off good hands

[pseudo owl]

whats the best upscale? the model itself or something else?

[placid swallow]

wait till you see the 5090Ti, has it's own wheels

[bitter hearth]

lmaoo

[granite haven]

Has anyone else played around with the SD3 Large model through the API? I found it to be restrictively censored, far beyond what Midjourney restricts. The prompt wasn’t even close to being nsfw—even pg13.

[odd basalt]

I believe it’s a personal preference some love giga pixel topaz, krea , photoshop

[placid swallow]

What time will you be home your GPU delivery needs to be scheduled

[odd basalt]

They said it’s for photography landscape thus why it’s like the way it is

I have no issues with it

But others do again personal preference

[odd basalt]

See that’s not cheap that’s 🔥

[granite haven]

I tend to make images with human subjects, so it wasn’t really workable for me. That said, SD3 medium has mostly been a ton of fun.

[placid swallow]

just put clothes on em

[raven fern]

gonna need a big pc case for that :3

[granite haven]

I tried dressing them like it was winter in Minnesota and it still blurred it!

[placid swallow]

environmentally friendly 5060 with 4GB vram

[placid swallow]

share your prompt might be some word you used

[odd basalt]

Might be the words u are using

[placid swallow]

quad gardenhose gauge power connectors should be a cinch to install

[granite haven]

I’m fairly sure this is the prompt I used…

Photo of a man getting tattooed by a female tattoo artist in the arctic during a blizzard, shot in the style of National Geographic. A woman sits in profile on a metal stool in front of a man as she tattoos his forearm with a tattoo gun. She holds the tattoo gun like a pen and wears purple latex gloves. She has a hipster aesthetic and has an intent expression as she focuses on the tattoo. She has long black hair, high cheekbones, tan skin, and light freckles. She wears a white ribbed tank top, loose jean shorts, and purple latex gloves. The man sits on a metal stool in profile and has a buzz cut and wears jeans and timberland boots. They are centered in the frame in the midground of the composition, with the austere frozen tundra in the foreground and background. They are partially obscured by the blizzard, with eddies of snow swirling around the landscape. The horizon stretches into the distance. Hectic yet austere mood, muted colors with a cooler palette.

Granted, perhaps not actually suitably dressed for a Minnesotan winter, but certainly not nsfw

[odd basalt]

We can so help u

Brb

[signal shuttle]

are you using Cliptextencodesd3 along with eulercfg++?

[granite haven]

I’m using the api through fireworks.ai

[signal shuttle]

Oh sorry, though you were running local with comfyui

[signal shuttle]

I have used the API before a lot, it's pretty restrictive, not much you can do about that

[odd basalt]

Title: Tattooing in the Arctic Blizzard

Description: A stunning photograph shot in the style of National Geographic, capturing a moment of artistic creation amidst the harsh Arctic environment. A female tattoo artist with a hipster aesthetic tattoos a man's forearm as a blizzard rages around them.

Visual Elements:

• Subjects:
  • Tattoo Artist: Female, hipster aesthetic, long black hair, high cheekbones, tan skin, light freckles, intent expression
  • Man: Buzz cut, jeans, Timberland boots
• Setting: Arctic tundra, blizzard, snow-covered landscape, austere and frozen environment
• Composition:
  • Midground: Tattoo artist and man centered in the frame
  • Foreground: Austere frozen tundra
  • Background: Blizzard and snow-covered landscape stretching into the distance
• Mood and Atmosphere: Hectic yet austere, muted colors with a cooler palette

Technical Details:

• Camera:
  • Model: Nikon D850
  • Lens: AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8E ED VR
  • Aperture: f/5.6
  • Shutter Speed: 1/125s
  • ISO: 100
• Lighting: Natural light, overcast and dim due to the blizzard
• Color Profile: Muted, cooler palette with shades of blue and gray
• Rendering: Highly detailed, with a focus on textures and atmospheric effects

Creative Notes:

• Inspiration: National Geographic, Arctic landscapes, tattoo art
• Purpose: To capture a unique moment of artistic creation in an extreme environment
• Mood and Atmosphere: To convey the harsh yet beautiful conditions of the Arctic landscape

[granite haven]

If only. I’m still new and working my way up to that. I’m not resentful at the restrictions, more just surprised at just how restrictive.

[signal shuttle]

That prompting style won't work for SD3, even for the api version

[odd basalt]

It’s not ment to be a prompt but it’s just a key to see what it’s missing to make it a prompt …

[odd basalt]

Here is a draft of ur vision

[granite haven]

Very impressive! Is that with sd3 medium?

[odd basalt]

These are

[odd basalt]

No that was meta it’s very up to date with prompt drafts

Last 2 is sd3

[granite haven]

Better prompt adherence with meta

[signal shuttle]

I am currently trying Samby's prompt on the SD3 api and all i am getting is blurred images

i am going to experiment a bit with it, to see what causing the filter to go off

[odd basalt]

National Geographic style 📸, a female tattoo artist with a hipster aesthetic, long black hair, high cheekbones, tan skin, light freckles, intent expression, tattoos a man’s forearm 👩‍🎤. The man has a buzz cut, wearing jeans and Timberland boots 👨‍🦲👖👢. Setting: Arctic tundra, blizzard, snow-covered landscape 🌨️❄️. Composition: Tattoo artist and man centered in the frame 🎯, with austere frozen tundra in the foreground 🏔️, and a blizzard and snow-covered landscape stretching into the distance 🌬️❄️. Natural light, overcast and dim due to the blizzard 🌥️. Mood: Hectic yet austere, muted colors with a cooler palette 🎨. –ar 16:9 –s 0 –v 6.0 –style raw

Try that prompt

[odd basalt]

It’s better than chat gpt …

Chat is behind

[bitter hearth]

nothing is better than chat gpt! blasphemy!

chat gpt will hear you...

[odd basalt]

It’s too filtered …

So does Gemini and meta and Leonardo ai

[signal shuttle]

Every single LLM made by a corporation is filtered even llama

or StableLM

[odd basalt]

Notice the photos are being recycled

It’s like ur generating the same prompt …

[bitter hearth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733762994525306972/899670992023076926/image0.gif

[torn wharf]

this sounds like you decided on something and then started finding evidence for it

[bitter hearth]

archer gave up and picked up a sword, warrior has a shield and a broken arrow, the mage is in a very interesting pose lmao

[odd basalt]

I brought it to the attention to the owners of chat gpt

[torn wharf]

gfy

[odd basalt]

I cancelled my script too with them no more paying for there services when it’s free

[odd basalt]

They were over charging for api rent and I was forever getting in trouble with them

[bitter hearth]

[odd basalt]

I was getting data I was not suppose to and got put in time outs there bot is too easy to jail break 😂

[odd basalt]

API sd3

[devout schooner]

Meta is weird, it won't depict famous real people at all, but on the other hand it doesn't care about copyrighted fictional characters, and is also very very lenient WRT "suggestive" content

[bitter hearth]

can you try a bird

[odd basalt]

I don’t think these bots are ment for photos but for other useful tools…

It’s funny when it does generate images

[devout schooner]

Meta has an Imagine page that's just the image generator. Like it doesn't talk back to you or have opinions at all outside of a few canned responses.

[bitter hearth]

[pseudo owl]

it can also animate images but that kinda sucks, imo even svd is better, and luma is way way way better

[bitter hearth]

cat fractal

[devout schooner]

Yeah the animation isn't great. It has really good prompt adherence for the images for being free and not rate limited though imo. And it happily does "hard realism", unlike anything based on DALLE

[bitter hearth]

thefuck

What you've been sending is "fractal" then

I was confused

[pseudo owl]

Yeah that’s true

[bitter hearth]

sheesh

[bitter hearth]

[feral timber]

A see through apple on a gold pillow... technically not wrong.

[bitter hearth]

can't be more accurate

[keen palm]

I was almost 100% certain it was a see-through strawberry before I checked your prompt

[feral timber]

Really it could be a very small John Cena

[keen palm]

Lying perfectly with his cute head on the pillow...see-through

[feral timber]

Been a little hesitant to try people. But that's not bad at all. Rock Hudson as Superman.

[bitter hearth]

safest model in existence

[mellow latch]

**Hey all. I'm done with SD3 for now. Good stuff from most of you guys though. Love it.

If you want to keep up with my posts just look in SDXL every once in a while. I'll be posting Cascade images in there.

I'll just be waiting on the model maker community to make a better 2b.

See ya**

[compact niche]

ok

[bitter hearth]

[mellow latch]

😏

[placid swallow]

upside down cat

hmmm looks like there wasn't any upside down cat heads in the dataset

[bitter hearth]

Probably the model just didn't train enough to get the concept of it even

[pseudo owl]

Quick question, I doubt so but can the t5 model be replaced with another model with the same embedding size?

[placid swallow]

I was able to fix it using a multi-million dollar R&D program called MS Paint but I would think the AI could've gotten it from the start

[bitter hearth]

Paint is too powerful

[placid swallow]

seem all of our resident experts are on break at the moment, but I don't think you can easily replace the text encoders after training of the model

show me your belly

[terse belfry]

I Just discovered strange text in every SDXL image metadata, is that some masonic prayer or SMTH? What language is this?

[pseudo owl]

I could replace it with flan t5 xxl and it worked properly or it seems so

[placid swallow]

I'm confuse you did it then asked if it was possible?

[raw wren]

dalle3 has very little censorship if you access it via a corporate API

[pseudo owl]

No bc, that’s a fine tune of original t5 xxl, I am saying a different model with same embedding size.

[raw wren]

Like ciciai.com/chat does. You can get full nudity and other stuff

[placid swallow]

i dunno

can't tell if this is a wall or the floor

[odd basalt]

No worries Mack u and I still can ai battle with Cascade thou … I love Cascade more thou \m/

[mellow latch]

true true

[bitter hearth]

Rip, youre now part of the cult

[runic tusk]

Ah, yes. Good old Lorem Ipsum.

[odd basalt]

I’ll follow u in SDXl

[mellow latch]

nice

[sacred jewel]

Must be "handy" to have extra hands in the right length and position I guess... 😛

[mellow latch]

nice

[odd basalt]

Sense u and I are one of the Cascade originals

[mellow latch]

The only reason that I keep jumping from base model to base model is becasue the hype that surrounds it before release. That hype normally comes from the company too.

[sacred jewel]

You have a Skillz issue 😛

[mellow latch]

https://tenor.com/view/aidsday-kenya-stats-aids-hiv-gif-12985693

[terse belfry]

😂

Faceswap FAIL... 😂

[placid swallow]

mine's broken

[odd basalt]

Hey I was honest about it betta testing before it came out… hands were going to be a issue and I got backlash for it 😂 but turned out I was right but before they destroyed the Cascade server they said sd3 was gonna be for photography model not for anything else and they were right safe model against humans

[mellow latch]

I had no clue of that

[placid swallow]

hear me out though, what if you don't want humans

[fleet meteor]

So cuteeeee 🥺 🤗🐤

[bitter hearth]

Then it's the best model available

[placid swallow]

perhaps there is a compromise sorta half human half not

[fleet meteor]

Okey bro, I loved most of your images, I hope community finetunes are on the way 🥺 🙏

[mellow latch]

same

[odd basalt]

Yeah i loved the Cascade model and server but i never understood the drama within it… and why they destroyed it… but yeah i did ppl were like giving into the hype

[bitter hearth]

A big meow

[odd basalt]

Yess so much funn

[placid swallow]

some times it messes up though

[mellow latch]

What I saw were the cherry picks by stable to promote it.

[fleet meteor]

Im blind af, do anyone got the cascade channel from this discord?

[placid swallow]

you got a ghost problem

[mellow latch]

It's just gone I think

[odd basalt]

💯 percent

[odd basalt]

That’s my watermark 😂

[fleet meteor]

Why 😭 there were a lot of amazing gens there

[bitter hearth]

Was it active?

[placid swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[mellow latch]

hot as fuck

[odd basalt]

It’s gone :*( I have some ss

[mellow latch]

@odd basalt and I think some others did hear that there was drama from within the channel.

[placid swallow]

omg now I see why they don't want pony on this I'm getting nipples

[fleet meteor]

Not more active than sd3 but there were a lot of images, I didn´t post there but just watched other people´s posts 😿

[odd basalt]

I’ve made so many and share on deviant art that’s why I watermark here’s hott ❤️

[mellow latch]

It would be so funny to see a mangled watermark that resembles yours when someone uses that feature on the site.

[odd basalt]

Yeah I did save some of others art and ss of important information that helped improve my art but sucks they destroyed a good server

[brittle nexus]

[placid swallow]

my condolences to your destroyed server

[odd basalt]

I would die laughing

[placid swallow]

oh so you cheated

[odd basalt]

Beautiful and thanx

[mellow latch]

FUCKING CHEATER! FUCK THEM!!! FUCKING BITCH!!! lul kittens

[brittle nexus]

If it's inside comfy, isn't cheat

[placid swallow]

I don't make the rules, i just follow them

[mellow latch]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cats-pet-lover-kittens-gif-24138562

[placid swallow]

2b is trying to furrytize me

[bitter hearth]

There were other channels that were deleted but they weren't active for a long time, weird that cascade got hit

[placid swallow]

it's like a funkopop if hot topic made them

[mellow latch]

It was taken down as api SD3 came out

fucking losers really

[bitter hearth]

Oh it was that long ago?

[mellow latch]

yeah

[placid swallow]

are you saying they did it because the API was coming out?

maybe we ARE in a cult

[mellow latch]

No. I'm saying that it seemed fucked up. As if they wanted the spotlight as soon as possible.

[mellow latch]

yeah

[odd basalt]

Funny because my inspiration is from Y2K 2008 when leopard print was very popular … I am also such a girl and my gothic scene girl fashion shows

[placid swallow]

how would getting rid of the channels spotlight the API though if anything it would detract from it cause of the controversy

[mellow latch]

https://tenor.com/view/yiik-y2k-yiik-a-post-modern-rpg-y2k-a-post-modern-rpg-alex-eggleston-gif-13396178419214129535

[odd basalt]

Exactly why they did it cascade barely came out and they wanted SD3 to be their main priority

[placid swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[bitter hearth]

SAI never really promoted cascade much

I think

I dunno why their eyes so weird cx

[odd basalt]

They wanted SD3 to be their main goal and cascade everyone quit after they made the free model right when stable xl came out too

[mellow latch]

They made a large celebration blog post about cascade. It's not even their model actually.

[placid swallow]

they really don't promote much of anything only when asked it seems

[odd basalt]

Correct

[bitter hearth]

It's the big guys behind the curtains

[placid swallow]

cat koolaid does that to their 👁️

[odd basalt]

I lost count how many ppl came in asking for bot images. 😂 and we troll

I miss SD bots too

[bitter hearth]

I take their prompt and put Shrek in it

[placid swallow]

I would like to speak to your cult leader please

[bitter hearth]

Only big guys allowed

[placid swallow]

a dozen or 12 black kittens with the text "CULT" floating above them

[bitter hearth]

[placid swallow]

i feel like it could be a magazine at this point

[sacred jewel]

LOL... the size of the heads... 😛

[bitter hearth]

It's a small car

[sacred jewel]

But... but... those heads LOLOLOL

[placid swallow]

base on my research I have concluded the dataset was comprised of 98.6% black cat pictures and 5% other stuff

[bitter hearth]

where are the pinapples

👍

[placid swallow]

or if you're vegan

[scenic shadow]

is that a blank prompt?

[placid swallow]

it's it's a pack of black kittens skydiving to earth

[sacred jewel]

Don't forget to MIND YOUR SKILLZ, sir! 😉

[placid swallow]

how do I do that I can't even remember to type "surfboard"

[placid swallow]

procutto cheese cake 🧑‍🍳

my mouth is wattering just thinking about it

Kittens Log: 3349A::We've arrived at the CatNip nebula, but just as we began our scans I noticed most of the crew acting strange...

[hazy kestrel]

👏 🤌

[scenic shadow]

these look good.

did a second iteration on my gpt incorporating what you posted

"I need a prompt for a elvish ranger in a magical forest, dont have them have any weapons" too all of the gpts. One shot and seed. Yours, my old, my new.

litterally just copy pasted both of the instructions and pasted them into a new builder and said combine em XD

it looks like yours is with the new system then assuming you pushed the update in the past like 15 mins

[runic tusk]

Surprisingly recognizable.

[sacred jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-even-lift-bro-pumping-iron-lifting-weights-weightlifting-fail-strong-man-gif-25410961

[scenic shadow]

first couple from mine

mine def likes full body shots instead of close ups

[scenic shadow]

it was the instructions from your old set up

but with my added prompting syntax

ive got it still, im still building mine to be tune to my own workflows. most of the time im prefering my out put vs your new one, but thats more because I like full shots instead of close up when making characters

of course, mostly for me its a preference of how to write the G prompt. I still prefer old school way of making sure its separated out with commas and semicolons to get more distinct subjects

[placid swallow]

Only thing I lift are my fingers after typing these sickass prompts

[scenic shadow]

God do I know that XD

eh thats the builder is for

iterate with it in a chat format

[low stone]

has anyone figured out how to use eulercfg++ sampler with ultimate sd upscaler?

[placid swallow]

as the sampler that upscaler uses?

[low stone]

correct.

that works as a separate node which you can feed into custom sampler, but ultimate sd upscaler doesn't take input like that.

so i'm doing stage 1 with eulercfg++, but then upscaling with something that's of lesser capability.... so i'm going backwards.

[placid swallow]

they probably need to update the node so it's an option

[scenic shadow]

yeah i ran into that problem when setting up my first time for my normal sampler. not sure what the solution is to plug it into a node that doesnt natively have it as an option

[low stone]

yeah....

[placid swallow]

what i've done in the past is upscale the latent then resample over and over at like .33 upsizing increments before ultimate sd upscale came out

[low stone]

yeah unfortunately sd3 needs tiled upscaling or it just bombs

[placid swallow]

looks like it's pulling the sampler choices from here

and comfy only has eulercfg++ inside nodes_advanced_samplers right now

[sage burrow]

I've loaded quite a few of images with my past comfyui workflows embedded into them. Suddenly what was producing art masterpieces, yesterday even, is now producing crap like this. I haven't changed anything.... well except some ComfyUI SD3 additions. But they should be irrelevant to 1.5, SDXL and Pony (tried all 3) Has anyone else had this happen?

SD3 is great and all but it won't do what I need it to do for my art sales, so I need to use 1.5 and SDXL still as well. Time to start over and reinstall everything maybe?

[digital thorn]

Did you update Comfyui?

[sage burrow]

I loaded a bunch of custom nodes, (SD3) so it may have updated in general as well?

[digital thorn]

It's the comfyui general update that was my problem

[sage burrow]

Perhaps I'll read up on how to turm comfy back to the last version....

[sage burrow]

Are they censored by any chance? That is another oddity suddenly lol

[digital thorn]

Lol. Nah, but something looks like it's not working correctly if you update comfyui...at least for me

Do you have the pcm lora models?

[sage burrow]

Models and checkpoints galore lol

Though, tbh, I've installed so many comfy custom nodes ever since SD3, that something was bound to break one day...

[digital thorn]

Maybe you can test if you have better result on SD3 medium model without updating comfyui and then one time after update?

[digital thorn]

You can try just to copy over custom nodes folder and models folder. worked for me...but I'm afraid to update comfyui now, so I can't use that new euler++ node 😦

[sage burrow]

Just in case comfy update wasn't the cause, I'm now nervious about future comfy updates lolol

[digital thorn]

If we could blend our styles maybe 😄

if you add a bit of 3D it might work, but it will probably add too much detail of it

[raven fern]

don't complain

[kindred mica]

try play-doh style {prompt} . sculpture, clay art, centered composition, Claymation

[mortal kite]

cute!

Hey this is pretty sweet, I could never get SDXL to do this decently

I had to make a LORA for SDXL to do electronics like that

[mortal kite]

Practicing my inpaint skills in Stable Swarm.

[stiff mist]

Gen

[mortal kite]

Just practicing adding things to the scene with inpainting, and what settings affect it

[stiff mist]

Cool

[noble coyote]

Using SwarmUI. SD3 Prompt = streamline moderne, grand guignol, aztec, venice masked ball, van gogh, braque, fibonacci, fineliner wimmelbilder

[scenic shadow]

Looks good, went to work.

[mortal kite]

kind of..

glass giving me some troubles

so far the pen, the bird, the logo on the bottle, the spider, the water glass, and the iPad added with inpainting

[scenic shadow]

You doing inpainting with sd3 or a SDXL model?

[mortal kite]

I'm using Stable Swarm UI with SD3 and doing the inpainting there. Trying out the inpainting settings to see how I need to adjust things to get it to look correct without blur or seams.

not using comfy nodes for it. Just using Stable Swarms image edit stuff

[scenic shadow]

Might be worth it to used a good fine tuned SDXL model for inpainting. I know that the base 3 model can be kinda jank.

Mind you it looks decent so far

[mortal kite]

original image

[mortal kite]

Oh I totally get that. I usually use Fooocus for inpainting because it's godlike for that

[scenic shadow]

It not doing bad so far though, like you said main thing that sticks out is that shot glass. iPad a bit as well.

[mortal kite]

ya I think it just has a hard time getting the angle I wanted on the ipad

main thing is, I was able to prevent a "blurry halo" and seams

[scenic shadow]

Looks good so far, I think swarm sets a Gaussian noise blur affecting radius of the inpainting area to help with that

[mortal kite]

by learning how to adjust the mask blur and the "mask shrink /grow" settings, i found you need to play with the shrink/grow settings to get the new object to have a similar quality

[scenic shadow]

Yeah that’d be the setting, what setting have you found that have been working well?

[mortal kite]

and it looks like if you make the mask blur large enough (along with using "differential" mode) it will correctly sample the original area and do more of a "content fill" to blend the pictures.

well, surprisingly, by setting values much higher than I would have thought

example:

Mask Shrink/Grow of 75. Mask blur of 30. Seems to make sure it samples enough data around the mask so it can generate a proper match. The vertical window line for example, comes out better if you use a higher mask blur when I was adding the spider. Differential beleive means it samples the orginal image when adding the inpainted object.

[scenic shadow]

You tried using the the other samplers and schedulers

[mortal kite]

no I hadn't, I use uni_pc right now always since one of the tutorials I watched on Youtube mentioned it. I used to sometimes use heunpp2 but its way slower

[scenic shadow]

Was it a SDXL tut or one specific for sd3?

[mortal kite]

a SD3 with Stable Swarm specific one. 90 minutes. Actually was good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKX8_F1Er_w&ab_channel=SECourses

[noble coyote]

SwarmUI - SD3 Prompt = streamline moderne, grand guignol, aztec, venice masked ball, dali, richard dadd, egon schiele, fibonacci, fineliner wimmelbilder, highly detailed eyes

[mortal kite]

it's worth watching it was a good video

I gotta get to bed tho

[scenic shadow]

I’ll have to give it a look sometime.

Might try to play with the new sampler for cfg++ to see if it handles inpainting well, will prob have to do it manually

Yeah I’m at work so feel yah

[mortal kite]

nice! Have a good day

[stiff dust]

are there any loras or finetuned models available for sd3?

[teal fossil]

I just remembered that several days ago we were supposed to get a SAI statement... and it feels like #2Weeks all over again.

[scenic shadow]

The tools for basic finetunes from what I remember just started rolling out. They still need time to train.

Heard there’s a few Lora’s out and about. Check huggingface.

[frigid mango]

Looking for a new wallpaper with a bug with transluscent skin that glows in the dark, some wires and stuff. Black background. Anybody has a nice prompt or picture laying around?

[pastel latch]

they're just onboarding a new ceo right now so things might take a while to get sign offs from upper managment

[teal fossil]

Well... let's see how that goes...

[sacred jewel]

The CEO is literally [upperest] manager 🤭

[pastel latch]

the tippy top yus

tf

@fossil pagoda

your cracked

@muted cargo

[cobalt moon]

@fossil pagoda

go to the horn jail

[pastel latch]

@kindred mica

[cobalt moon]

for god sake.

[pastel latch]

https://tenor.com/view/vorzek-vorzneck-oglg-og-lol-gang-gif-24901093

bored dude

[patent acorn]

where are the mods lol

@fossil pagoda

[signal shuttle]

WHAT

i wake up and the first thing i see is porn!?

[muted dove]

Lucky you! 😄

[patent acorn]

i guess thats why he doesnt get any friends i guess

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078303535185285191.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[signal shuttle]

Is none of the mods active or what?

[muted dove]

Nope

[cobalt moon]

they didnt respond

[muted dove]

Sleeping

[pastel latch]

we have found the window they are not around

[patent acorn]

none of the devs in the online list are seen talking here, boto either doesnt check

[signal shuttle]

Someone posted cheese pizza here once, and still went unoticed by the mods

[patent acorn]

i wanna to forget about that incident smh

[signal shuttle]

yeah it took the mods like too much time to ban him

he should've banned instantly, but i guess the mods are sleeping

[patent acorn]

sure but still you posted porn on this sfw channel

[cobalt moon]

i mean we rarely got those who destroy the rule lol

[signal shuttle]

They really should have mods that live in europe or any other place that's awake when Americans are sleeping

[patent acorn]

wtf lol

[cobalt moon]

?

[patent acorn]

it has been 1 year since that guy talked so i wonder if hes still on sai

[cobalt moon]

oh yeah he ( the one who post porn ) oofed

thx mod

[patent acorn]

GG

[cobalt moon]

I think palp just go touch grass anyway

unlike mcmonkey I guess he did not actually have time wasting on Discord SD tech supports or discussion something

[fossil pagoda]

I live in europe, but you can not expect people to be around 24/7 unfortunately

[muted dove]

Needs more mods 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fossil pagoda]

Took me around 10 mins to act and you complain

[cobalt moon]

since when the last time we got mod application

[patent acorn]

wait that was 10 mins

[fossil pagoda]

Not for me to decide

[fossil pagoda]

Yellow role people arent mods, Sunny and myself are... I know its a short list

[cobalt moon]

so it is 2 mods server?

[fossil pagoda]

2 mods and a few community guides that can act as well if needed

[cobalt moon]

it is a real miracle if you able to managed 20k pops discord server with 2 mods only without any assisstance ( bots )

[muted dove]

A better class of clientele 😉

[patent acorn]

ohh i thought they are because i saw the purple wizard guy timeout someone

[fossil pagoda]

They have access to do so, but usually its left to us

[fossil pagoda]

We have automod and a few other things that catch most stuff, but sometimes it slips through
But yeah thanks, were doing our best

[patent acorn]

yeah its insane thats sum dedication

[teal fossil]

Definitely. This sub is a cesspool at times.

[cobalt moon]

oh man Simo Ryu the Cat is cooking real hard

[muted cargo]

I was litterally in a meeting :p. But yeah it s fixed now, thanks.

[bitter hearth]

i missed it

Wait no I'm so glad it's gone, good job mods

[compact niche]

hi

[muted dove]

Just a nutting dick pic, multiple postings of the same.

[gusty gale]

which one's better? I tried combining the 2-pass technique I did with my workflow with CFG++

[bitter hearth]

what is the prompt for that style kinda

[compact niche]

not suree lol i combined lots of artists

lol

[gusty gale]

same comparison

[bitter hearth]

I think 2, the one with one waterfall only

Both good but maybe that's more correct, terrain looks a bit nicer to me in that

[bitter hearth]

The water looks a little more natural in the 2nd one. Looks fake in the 1st one. Same with terrain also

[gusty gale]

I feel like it's just slightly better

[compact niche]

old masters painting style, intricate details, full body view, famous artwork inspired by (james cameron's avatar:1.2) and (otto marseus van schrieck:1.3) and (makoto shinkai:1.3), detailed expressive eyes, fantasy style, (fractal art:0.8), beware this otherworldly glowing vertebrate abomination aptly named "quaint rockdonker" with its countless tentacles, this exotic and deadly poisonous creature roams the bioluminescent shnorbsabblershroom forests and foggy keydering jungles of its alien world "blunderward ii", where gigantic tangflurb and towering trees gorble the ground, lora:lyco-style-envydramaticlightingxl01_digital_art-xl:0.72 lora:midjourney_mimic-xl-by_andrexsel:0.4 lora:more_artful-xl:0.4 lora:extremely_detailed-detail_slider-v2-xl-by_ntc:1.0 lora:envybetterhiresfixxl01-xl:0.0:hr=1.0

[gusty gale]

it does seem to work nicely with the 2-pass workflow I made though

[compact niche]

loras not actually included but i still pasted them

[sly frost]

Hola

[gusty gale]

yeah, I see more of what you mean now. the aesthetic choices CFG++ causes are nearly identical, but it seems to produce better 'shapes' in the images

a lot like what better prompting tends to do sometimes

[low stone]

Sd3/pixart A young adventurer wearing a headband and boots holding glowing blue spiked fruits illuminated by the warm light of a setting sun vibrant, high above jagged rocky cliffs fierce dragon-like creatures with sharp teeth and colorful scales snarling, broken shards of rock and fruit suspended in the air, dramatic clouds swirling in the sky a sense of tension and exhilaration.

[scenic shadow]

Shoreline on the second one is ALOT better in my opinion

[rain current]

I've been testing EulerCFG++, as it seems to work quite well. However, I've been testing it and it generates the same images with CFG*2 in Euler. That is, the first one is EulerCFG++ at CFG 1.0 and the other image is Euler at CFG 2.0. Not a single pixel changes

Am I not using it correctly?

[scenic shadow]

you doing regular or alt

[rain current]

alternative

[scenic shadow]

think alex and comfy were saying that its pretty much all it really did in one of the channels.

though i thought that it was specifically normal that worked like that, it might be both

[stiff sparrow]

yea other samplers often output same thing too

[scenic shadow]

double checked its just the normal was outputing the same as like 4x

I would double check but it might of just been a seed that there wouldn't of been a difference ...

its not magic but its an overall improvement in alot of cases

[rain current]

I am generating both at the same time, with the same seed (only in Euler the CFG is *2), and so far all the results are identical...

[scenic shadow]

I just got home ill test on mine rq

[rain current]

Finally, I have found a difference in this result, the finger... 🤣

[scenic shadow]

yeah its not much, first is ++

small highlight on the chest are, a tree is slightly different on the right and the nub on the tree on the left is a bit more defined

[rain current]

So, it does something, but then the comparisons being made are using the same CFG in both Euler and EulerCFG++, right?

[scenic shadow]

alot of the time yeah

so euler wants a higher on average cfg to get good results

[rain current]

That's exactly what I'm testing now, CFG 2 (EulerCFG++) vs CFG 4 (Euler)

[sterile pendant]

Yeah that lines up with my testing yesterday and like Cody said, sometimes you'll see no difference and that's normal if you're using simple pos/neg prompts

[rain current]

Understood! Thanks, everyone

[scenic shadow]

i know the change in the code WASNT MUCH.

but its just a slightly better version of euler

its just a varient sampler ... its just those small changes MOST of the time will be for the better

[rain current]

I didn't mean to criticize, I just saw the comparisons and couldn't understand such a big difference 😅

[scenic shadow]

its still wild west bro no one knows nothing

[sterile pendant]

I'll double check again just to make sure it hasn't all been a big placebo troll. I recommend using that difference node that's built into one of the common node packs. It blows differences up to make them super visible

Plug both images in and check the output of it

[scenic shadow]

hell its good news for me, means ill just let SDUltUpscale run on euler at double the cfg

[sterile pendant]

Ahh yeah, good point since the sampler isn't in the default list yet(would take like 3 min to manually put it in the list in the code)

[scenic shadow]

wana blind test for me? which do you like more

[bitter hearth]

left painting had a bit more strength put into it

[pastel latch]

left i prefer but feels a little too noisy

[scenic shadow]

was riding that same fence.

gonna play with some settings

[silent ginkgo]

euler_pp and euler_ancestral_pp are already added to the list

[sterile pendant]

they aren't the same, here's an example (had llama3 writing weird fever dream prompts)

[sterile pendant]

the one on the left

here's another. they are closer in this one though, you have to look pretty hard at the difference image

[bitter hearth]

those prompts

[sterile pendant]

shhh i like making goofy shit

[mortal kite]

ahhhh. Every stray cat's fate

[bitter hearth]

is there any news from Stability AI

[signal shuttle]

If we use The cliptextencodesd3 node and split the prompt into three, then how big is the difference then?

[sterile pendant]

no clue, im too lazy for placebo workflows like that when i can spin another seed or inpaint it with diff-diff later

last comparison for now. but yeah, either way, it looks like eulercfg++(alt) is 1/2 what normal euler is, just some subtle differences in small details and the edges of things mostly(which is what it's meant for anyways if you read the paper about it)

so if you make an image with cfg++, then for now, just use euler+sgm with a cfg of 2x your cfg++(so if cfg++ was 2.5, use cfg 5 in ultimate) for ultimate sd upscaling

it should be close enough

[silent ginkgo]

try euler_pp, not euler:

[sterile pendant]

thats the same thing

oh wait nvm, it's a new node, thought that was just from some node pack

[silent ginkgo]

just pull current ComfyUI code - I am getting identical results from those:

[sterile pendant]

lemme check the code real quick, they might actually be the same thing

yeah those are them, just added into the regular list of samplers

that standalone eulercfg++ node isn't needed anymore then, sweet

https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI/commit/69d710e40f43b87dd7124b9ee1e8982f987827e9

"Add euler_ancestral_pp which is the ancestral version of euler with the
same modification."

to sum shit up, eulerpp=eulercfg++alt and euler_ancestral_pp=eulercfg++ and you no longer need to use a customsampler workflow to use it

[bitter hearth]

too much text, argh!!!

[sterile pendant]

there, happy? guess i shoulda looked at the history on github first lol

[bitter hearth]

need moar images! 😉

[sterile pendant]

well again, if you want to get an almost 1:1 with regular euler or euler_a, use 1/2 the cfg with the pp versions. so 8->4, 4->2, etc. use the comfy essentials enhance image difference node to see where the small changes are happening

[sterile pendant]

the differences with the enhance difference node will look like this if you set the cfgs like i just said, between the regular and pp versions:

more color=more difference, black=no difference

so there, teach a man to fish, yada yada yada, go have fun

[bitter hearth]

interesting

[sterile pendant]

your graph will look like this (above difference image)

Oh damn, the difference gets a lot stronger the more steps you put in. i reran that same prompt with 50 steps

look how much brighter the differences are

take a guess which is which, pretty night and day at 50 steps

[rain current]

And has anyone tested the ipndm sampler? 🤔

[signal shuttle]

The right image looks more "coherent" with buttons i feel, like the button's are more stable, best way to describe it

[sterile pendant]

yeah there are some pros and cons on both, but that's why i chose a prompt like this, tons of greebles and shit to get wrong

[sterile pendant]

yeah i messed with it a little the other day, there's also that other noise scheduler GITS or w/e it was

iirc, they are geared for lower step counts though

like <20 steps or something

[rain current]

I just started testing it, but it doesn't look bad....

[sterile pendant]

i think they precalculated some manifolds or something like that, i'll have to reread the paper on it

[rain current]

(cfg4 - 28 steps - ipndm)

[signal shuttle]

SD3?

[rain current]

yep fp16

[sterile pendant]

it performs very similarly to euler_pp

[limpid drum]

You can always use https://www.diffchecker.com/image-compare/ to compare images

[sterile pendant]

like im doing sidebysides of the two, ipndm at cfg4 and euler_pp at 2 (so they match)

[sterile pendant]

i just use a difference node, makes it easier

[limpid drum]

OH! Good to know 🙂

[signal shuttle]

Is there any diffrence between euler_pp and ipndm in terms of text in images generation?

[sterile pendant]

lemme try

[rain current]

#🆕｜sd3 message This is an example, same prompt, same seed, the only difference is the CFG, as eulercfg++ is 1/2, to make a fair comparison

[sterile pendant]

ipndm on the left, euler_pp on the right

but afaik, the whole cfg++ thing was more about correcting errors on things in the foreground

like cfg++ falls off on things in the distance, but makes up for it where it matters

[rain current]

in this example I prefer euler_pp

[sterile pendant]

the text is supposed to say "pee is stored in the balls"

but eulerpp fixed her extra arm in this one

but anyways, i'm sure if you ran a thousand double-blind A/B tests between the two, you'd probably find them tied in the long run, in terms of preference

someone should make an imgsys.org but for samplers

https://imgsys.org/

[rain current]

wtf

[sterile pendant]

oh wow, that's a whole lot to unpack lol...

jesus they diverged

same seed?

[rain current]

yep

[sterile pendant]

mo'fuggin catdawg on the right

[dull star]

what about other seeds

[sterile pendant]

you dont have the use a custom sampler for it anymore btw, euler_pp=cfg++alt

[bitter hearth]

is CFG++ good?

does it work on SDXL, SD 1.5 too?

[sterile pendant]

yeah, they are built into the samper list now, euler_pp and euler_ancestral_pp. whatever euler and euler_a worked with, these will work with

just use 1/2 the normal CFG

10->5, 8->4, 5->2.5, and so on

[rain current]

It wasn't working for me, I have updated Comfy

[signal shuttle]

I found something interesting, on higher model shifts the text is better then low model shifts

using euler_pp

[sterile pendant]

yeah youre just pushing the sigma curve more front or rear loaded

the higher the shift, the longer it spends making large changes, the lower the shift, the more it focuses on smaller details

[rain current]

A close-up of a person's face and upper body, seemingly covered in a textured, muddy substance. The person has intense, hazel eyes and appears to be standing outdoors, with a blurred background of houses and a wooden structure. The mud or substance on the person's face and body has intricate patterns and textures, resembling organic growth or perhaps a form of artistic representation.

[compact niche]

sorry for beingdumb but is ipndm is a sampler? or whetever is it how to use it on comfy

oh yeah uts a sampler but i not remember i saw it on comfy

[rain current]

It's ComfyUI's strategy, they want to release 24,000 different samplers this year to drive us crazy

[compact niche]

lol

[rain current]

Yep, they work for the government

[compact niche]

what the differences? how good will be the input with fp16

[mortal mesa]

ipndm was added like a week ago or something to comfy defaults

[compact niche]

oh so i might no updated comfy i guess

[bitter hearth]

are the new samplers good

is it a big change or small

[finite osprey]

euler_pp ??? damn

[compact niche]

what means euler_pp? is it special or u take it as a joke

[signal shuttle]

Two k-sampler workflow using euler_pp, same seed, and both of the images are 2 CFG (First pass is left image and second pass is right image)

The shadow and lighting is better in the second image

[compact niche]

good prompt

[signal shuttle]

first image is 8 model shift and second is 6 model shift

oops typo

[rain current]

A person wearing an intricate costume resembling a post-apocalyptic warrior. The attire is adorned with metallic elements, sharp spikes, and gears. The individual has tattoos on their face and arms, and their hair is long and dark. They are positioned in a busy urban setting, possibly a street, with various people walking around in the background. There are signs and buildings, suggesting this might be in a commercial or residential area of a city.

[compact niche]

i use custom vae for better contrast

[finite osprey]

i get weird artifacts @ CFG 2 / shift 3 on euler_pp

[compact niche]

its actually looking artistic

like the grain effect

[finite osprey]

yeah, well my prompt was very concise 😄 Harry potter is the goat

[signal shuttle]

try using 40 steps plus Sgm_uniform as scheduler

[finite osprey]

first pass was 43, second was 23. will try to bump 2nd one

[signal shuttle]

I use 40 for the first pass and 30 for the second pass, and for the first pass i use 1.00 denoising and for the second i use 0.75

[finite osprey]

oh shit, i put the model directly for 2nd pass thats why. (no shift). (I think? will try more)

[signal shuttle]

And try using cliptextencodesd3 and splitting the prompt into three, that gets me the better results the normal positive node

[finite osprey]

do you add noise between the 2 ksamplers?

[signal shuttle]

this is my workflow basically

[finite osprey]

ok i pretty much have the same

[rain current]

try: Harry Potter is the goat lying on the grass... it's more fun

[silent ginkgo]

euler_pp with 1/2 CFG seems to be better than euler with full CFG:

[bitter hearth]

ittter

[bitter hearth]

There were some I could not post 🤣

[rain current]

A close-up of a person's face, predominantly focusing on their eyes and the area around them. The individual appears to be holding or releasing a burst of fiery energy or light, which envelops their face and surroundings. The fiery particles are scattered throughout, creating a dynamic and intense atmosphere. The person's hair is flowing, possibly due to movement or a breeze, and there's a sense of motion and energy emanating from the image.

[signal shuttle]

The word "or" negatively affects image quality, try not using as much as possible

[pine saffron]

using the character in the photo, create a new phote where this kid is running in a hot wheels Challenge. your friend called "cup" is a pilot and he's running too.

[bitter hearth]

vroom vroom

[pine saffron]

🏍️

[patent acorn]

chatgpt ahh

[torn wharf]

yo seizure emoji. how do i block emojis ?

[rain current]

SD3 is a clothing designer... new Balenciaga pants

[bitter hearth]

sorry lol I can get rid of it lol

🤣

[torn wharf]

i think covid made me epileptic. my eyebrow is twinging.

i made it my problem and not yours. i found an option on discord that stops all emojis from animating

[bitter hearth]

[digital thorn]

Anyone who'd like to post a simple image with workflow (ksampler+mode+triple clip node) for me to test to see if I still have something weird going on after my comfyui update?

[dull star]

https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/sd3/

the bottom workflow should use the triple clip encoder

[digital thorn]

Thanks! Looks like I've got a bit different output (almost the same). But at least it's the same quality.

[dull star]

yeah ever so slightly different

[keen palm]

Do you use modelsampling with euler_pp or not? I feel like the quality is much better the lower shift value you have

[rain current]

I'm testing autoprompter, and it creates very funny (or absurd) images 😅

[bitter hearth]

leave that generating forever and a bot posting on some website

people will think you're insane

[rain current]

People already think I'm crazy, or semi-psychopathic... if I do that, they'll imprison me

[bitter hearth]

always love how SD3 does water

nice painterly style

I don't do a lot of painterly I should try to do some

[errant dust]

https://techcrunch.com/2024/06/25/stability-ai-lands-a-lifeline-from-sean-parker-greycroft/

[sage burrow]

SD3: "I don't know what to do, this prompt is too spicy to generate. I still don't know what to do, I have to censor this somehow. Is this model for male or female? Oh nm, this will do" 😄

[placid swallow]

it's like a romance novel cover

[bitter hearth]

im happy to see the anatomy is not messed up