🆕｜sd3

[dusk silo]

there is a resolution node for sd3

[thin fable]

Nudity was never going to be in, that's really be trained in mostly by us pervs

[faint breach]

the protests for sd3 rages on

[dusk silo]

i have 20gb but that fills up almost all of the way ..7900xt with fp8

[upper snow]

are the people complaining that it should be free for commercial use actually running hosted inferences services or just simping for them

[eternal steppe]

Lol, me on an a770 while running it with the fp16 using 6.7gb of VRAM

[mortal kite]

syrup burger

[eternal steppe]

Ceramic Terminator

[thin fable]

i got no problem with how you monetize it, but i think they were right to try. there might have been much better monetize methods like you mentioned but i also think they are seeing millions and millions of on-line generations and think we aren't getting a cut of that, and they should.

[mortal kite]

sentient

[dusk silo]

https://i.imgur.com/wEGpXls.png https://i.imgur.com/aFAChVS.png https://i.imgur.com/JOoMqDl.png is this off?

[faint breach]

the angry masses get angrier as they realize they cannot negotiate and have no position

[dusk silo]

lol sorry thats basically unreadable

[eternal steppe]

No.

[thin fable]

jokes on you... we don't know how to read....hahaha

[eternal steppe]

CFG could be higher. Mine is 5.

[robust junco]

though not like it is with fine.tuned models, there has always been quite a lot of nudity in SD 1.4/1.5 + SDXL. That much that SD was basically known for having a tendency to nudity all around, even if you didn't/don't prompt for it

[dusk silo]

what IS cfg

[winter flint]

Krabby Patty? 😆

[eternal steppe]

The Classifier-Free Guidance (CFG) scale is a crucial parameter in diffusion models, particularly in Stable Diffusion, which controls how closely the generated image adheres to the given text prompt. This scale allows users to balance between image fidelity to the prompt and creative freedom.

Summary: It is a value that dictates the ratio between prompt adherence to prompt creativity.

[hazy tartan]

Idk. I'm very confused as to why everyone is saying nobody will fine tune it due to the licensing. Feel like I'm missing something 😭

[dusk silo]

so 3 is 300% 10 is 1000%?

[mortal kite]

looks like oscar the grouch

[faint breach]

the ai masses will not be censored

[eternal steppe]

I don't think it works that way.

[thin fable]

i agree. i wish they didnt prune it the way they did, but i get why they did too. just wish all that missing pruned data so to speak was replaced with enough anatomy lessons to fix the hole they obviously created

[dusk silo]

whats the "ratio"

[eternal steppe]

Yes.

[thin fable]

im ok with Sears underware model level of data if they want to go safe. at least it puts things in the right place

[dusk silo]

higher cfg requires more steps, that i think i gathered?

[eternal steppe]

No.

[mortal kite]

I think SD3 even censors the word nipple

[eternal steppe]

Higher CFG can cause more artifacting. Steps will not fully mitigate a high CFG.

[thin fable]

it's not in it's vocab i would think

[mortal kite]

it doesn't seem to even want to write it

[dusk silo]

they should just release an uncensored model and shut everyone up

[winter flint]

"Staubb Heatome", absolutely 🥹

[faint breach]

models aren't trained then censored. the dataset is built a particular way and then the model is trained on that

[fleet meteor]

amazing

[thin fable]

yeah the decision is what they added to the curriculm so to speak for sd3's learning

[faint breach]

oh you don't want to mess with staubb. she was from the sd2 genaicide

[eternal steppe]

The dataset is pruned, and thus the model follows said dataset.

[thin fable]

they don't unteach it things, they just never bring them up

[regal sedge]

h

[faint breach]

thats right

[dusk silo]

im not saying its easy.. make it uncensored, and make it expensive as f

drink the tears

api only

[faint breach]

it may not be as lucrative as a business model as people are saying. If they do that, then they effectively make sure everyone that doesn't want porn for a business won't do business with them. That might be more people than those who wanna get freaki

also is a very transient customer base

[wind basalt]

Is there any fine tunes yet

[eternal steppe]

Someone is just going to finetune porn into it. It's not the end of the world.

[fleet meteor]

That´s what I said, they should have made one 2 models completely uncensored, but the API one could just delete the nsfw outputs, it doesnt have to be censor just delete it

[dusk silo]

ahhhhhh

[faint breach]

it's the bargaining phase of the grieving process

[mortal kite]

hahaha

it knows that, why not nipple lol

[barren thorn]

give it truck nuts (i bet it won't let you)

[mortal kite]

LOL

[noble coyote]

What with w e i r d sd3 anatomy, PiXart ain't entirely dead!!!!! 😄

[faint breach]

what if evolutionary, our young got milk from truck nuts? our society would be way different. we'd all really be into truck nuts

[noble coyote]

Oh my! Custom Node Update for SD3 is taking some time ...

[mortal kite]

I can't believe truck nuts are even legal on the street I would think it would be like exposing

[faint breach]

i was talking about the nuts on the truck wheels, like, lugnuts.

[mortal kite]

oh I like this one

[faint breach]

but that would be a different society indeed

[kindred mica]

let me sleep

[upper snow]

idk about others, but I like finetuning things for people to use, personally

[ionic bobcat]

🤔 a purple wizard

[patent acorn]

currently theres a merge between 3 and xl

[faint breach]

incoming virus

[upper snow]

how in the ever loving fuck

[devout schooner]

I was actually wondering if anyone had tried loading XL finetune clips instead of clip_l and clip_g

[eternal steppe]

Okay, actually. Is there any reasonable quality difference between the FP8 and FP16 version of the T5 encoder?

[faint breach]

data void made a script to load other clips in

[dusk silo]

zavy cinematic would be dopppppeee

[patent acorn]

https://civitai.com/models/511463/afros-sd3-experimental-sdxl-merge?modelVersionId=568446

YALL WONT BELIEVE IT

[upper snow]

congrats, you now have SD3 with misaligned text encoders! 🎉

[patent acorn]

its literally little better than sd3 apparently

[eternal steppe]

Sounds like monkey business to me.

[dusk silo]

makem kiss

[devout schooner]

aren't the SD3 ones the same as what's baked into SDXL though? meaning if you saved one from a finetune to disk and loaded it instead, it might do something interesting

[patent acorn]

monke

[mortal kite]

this is clearly fake , it has signal lights

[solemn sigil]

SD3 2b

[upper snow]

it will just be misaligned mainly. you might get more variety because the text encoder latent space is shifted.

[fleet meteor]

Nah this is a real photo xd

[patent acorn]

also

[mortal kite]

can sd3 still do "styles" like artist styles

[limpid drum]

A strand of caramelized sugar stubbornly caught in my braces, turning my dental routine into a sweet but sticky endeavor where each chew unravels the sugary cling

[upper snow]

training a text encoder should be completely unnecessary on SD3 for any reason. the model is multimodal, you've got parameters inside the DiT specifically for dealing with text. leave the text encoder(s) frozen!

[solemn sigil]

In Stability-AI's dreams it was like this

[kindred mica]

hey that guy owes me $20

[patent acorn]

its our expectation

[barren thorn]

my beef with SD3, at the moment, isn't necessarily the NSFW censoring (although I suspect they censored more than just that) but with the removal of 4000+ artist styles tht SDXL knew about - which seems like a monumental fuckup

[mortal kite]

SD3 doesn't appear to be able to do "styles" anymore I don't think..

[patent acorn]

cool

[barren thorn]

coincidentally i just commented on that

[mortal kite]

oh wait I think I prompted it incorrectly for styles

[upper snow]

i'd just wait for IP Adapter or something for style personally

[barren thorn]

the lack of styles is simply just insane

[eternal steppe]

That triple clip encoder definitely helps with styling

[mortal kite]

ok I got it working derp

[barren thorn]

ipadapter is not the same as artist styles, not even close

[eternal steppe]

He's got a bananamag.

[barren thorn]

you can get it working to mimic a style transfer but that's a lot different than having 5-10 different piece of works that the model conceptually understands

[shell plaza]

Just wait for lora training for styles honestly

[upper snow]

the current SOTA method for zero shot style transfer is IP Adapter based...

[mortal kite]

I forgot you just say "by" and not "in the style of"

[limpid drum]

What kind of speeds are you getting? My kid has an Arc770 16GB in his PC (courtesy of me...)

[solemn sigil]

What is Stable diffusion 3-2b for right now?

[eternal steppe]

1.17it/s on euler, 35 seconds for a 30 step inference. 1024x1024 resolution.

[faint breach]

styles work fine. y'all just got skill issues. easy fix. i'm not sure i have to say what it is. we all know it

[mortal kite]

so far, SD medium only use 10gig of my VRAM

[barren thorn]

@upper snow "in the style of <x>" not necessarily equal to "style transfer"

[eternal steppe]

I guess they don't know that all three different clip encoders can have different text.

[mortal kite]

Damn this is the best I've ever seen this style, a LOT more detail and contrast

[upper snow]

get an image that is "in the style of <x>" and throw it into IP Adapter

[faint breach]

it's the classic try it 5 times and declare it cant be done situation

[dim geyser]

sounds like bullshit

[patent acorn]

elaborate?

[severe phoenix]

yep, it cant recognize any artist correctly. the compositions too seem to look like the same ol dead center and generic composition with mismatched scale background that 1.5 has.

[dim geyser]

he's merging diffusion transformers into a unet?

[barren spindle]

it definitely recognizes Hayao Miyazaki...

[patent acorn]

🤨

[devout schooner]

I'm running it no problem on a 6GB GTX 1660 Ti in Comfy

[barren spindle]

other than waiting

[eternal steppe]

Arc vs Nvidia is very different, though. A lot has to be done on Arc to get it operational.

[barren thorn]

@upper snow i understand how it works, but i'm simply saying that is not the same as a model that's been trained with knowledge of the "style" of a particular artist, say 10-20 images or so... it can mimic it and actually do a very good job, for that particular piece being style transfered from

[faint breach]

you've tried 5 artists likely.

[limpid drum]

Cool, thanks! That's not horrible

[fleet meteor]

Cute 🥺

[devout schooner]

it's not super fast yeah, not that much slower than SDXL though. Or really any slower. it's fast enough for me at like 25 - 30 steps.

[eternal steppe]

You should go to the intel insiders discord and go to the ComfyUI section there.

[barren thorn]

and when you have a model that knows 4000+ artists, simply throwing all that away and going "well they can just train loras for every single artist they're interested in, or use ipadapter every time they want a particular style" is fucking ludicrous

[solemn sigil]

SD3 2b currently only works to take up space on your Hard disk or SSD

[eternal steppe]

Yeah? Sounds like you didn't get it working.

We did.

[faint breach]

sounds really sulky

[eternal steppe]

Person that said you can't style
me

[limpid drum]

I'd have to rip the card out of my son's machine and swap him my 3060 12GB model... maybe a weekend project 🙂

[eternal steppe]

Wait, why wouldn't you just run it on the 3060?

[mortal kite]

I figured it out, I was out of practice

[solemn sigil]

SDXL can do that better.

[eternal steppe]

SDXL finetunes can do it better.

SD3 base is pretty good for what it is.

[limpid drum]

I am running it just fine on the 3060. I was just curious about the Arc770 ... as it has 16GB of VRAM instead of 12GB, it may come in handy 🙂

[ionic bobcat]

isnt this an exact repeat when sdxl came out and people said 1.5 finetunes are better

[faint breach]

i find sdxl without the proper pixel alignment in post porcess, sucks at pixel art

[eternal steppe]

Then what ends up happening is SD3 finetunes come out that are better than all of them lmao

[limpid drum]

People forget 1.3 was the first release

[faint breach]

the pixels in sd3 look real. you know? like god honest pixels

[eternal steppe]

Me when 1.0

I just realized both of us joined at near the same time.

[faint breach]

organically grown pixels

[limpid drum]

I was a wave one day one beta tester, I had a lot of fun 🙂

[solemn sigil]

You have to wait at least 6 months for SD3 2b to work a little better.

[eternal steppe]

Why did you say that in spanish, then delete it.
Also, SD3 medium's base already works well. It's just gonna get better from here.

[mortal kite]

1800's Mac repair

[faint breach]

did you guys hear about pluto? thats messed up right?

[faint breach]

hey sd3 can't do style. stop that

[eternal steppe]

I think my ape upgraded to the SNES.

[fleet meteor]

👀 what happened?

[faint breach]

they demoted it from a planet

[thin quarry]

ape posting? at this hour?

[fleet meteor]

Aaaaaa yes, it was too small and its orbit was a little different than regular planets U.U

[faint breach]

harsh man. too soon. i'm mourning here

[eternal steppe]

You don't like apes?

[green shoal]

gm, did you guys figure out anything new overnight ?

[solemn sigil]

Also because of the license to use SD3 2b. Pony will not do finetuning to SD3 2b..

[eternal steppe]

Gnome.

[faint breach]

its really great at making robots of any style look like they're from the music vidoe for "master p - make em say ugh"

[green shoal]

that's really cool

[hallow lion]

SD3 boring people Lora when?

[eternal steppe]

Impatience? Begone.

[hallow lion]

you can make uncle ted wear t shirts sayign obscene things

[eternal steppe]

Gnome's gotta earn a living somehow.

[hallow lion]

you can make endless wallmart fails with text and sd3 boring ppl lora

[solemn sigil]

What prompt do you use to have this result?

[eternal steppe]

Positive: A garden gnome working as a cashier in a mcdonalds. Negative: out of focus, out of picture, watermarks, watermark, disfigured, mutated, too many appendages,

[solemn sigil]

Tanks

[hallow lion]

do we still need 6000 token negative promts?

i have like 8000 words with ym negative styles i wodne rif they will help clenaup the body deforms

[limpid drum]

SD1.0 vs 3.0: "a purple anteater with glasses and a sweatband exercising on a treadmill in a gym"

[desert garnet]

after u create more than 6000 tokens u ahve to pay

[hallow lion]

looool

[patent acorn]

cool

[hallow lion]

can i make a sd3 lora?

[placid swallow]

it kinda feels with the how they trained and license that sd3's goal was to be used for commercial work

[hallow lion]

i will try i mad eone for sdxl and one for sd15, total fails and stuff but its worth it for the experience

[patent acorn]

everything was a downgrade no shot

[eternal steppe]

other than the fact that it's 4x smaller and thus much faster to run, and that nobody here can run SD3 Large unless on a workstation card

[desert garnet]

i heard 1.5 is even smaller,we truly live in the future

[patent acorn]

[placid swallow]

what you guys think 2025 before they release 8B weights

[severe phoenix]

wait guys i'm hearing theres no suport for finetuning the models, how true is this? i thought open weights meant anyone can take it and finetune

[eternal steppe]

Howabout you go research it before coming here?

[barren thorn]

@severe phoenix "monster truck in the style of blade runner and syd mead, dynamic cityscape"

left (sdxl) actually resembles syd mead, right (sd3) simply does not.. not to mention is also photorealistic which significantly deviates from the intended style.. we can do this type of thing all day with sdxl and thousands of styles, but sd3? you're simply SOL.. "but the detail is so much better, bro!" great, that's not what i'm looking for here.

[desert garnet]

anyone can make them is just that some finetuners cover costs with sponsorships and they cant do that with current model license

[patent acorn]

they do resemble minecraft but not sd3 medium (2nd image)
thats bad

[barren spindle]

not enough training data available, sorry

[eternal steppe]

its a minecraft character (steve) near a house.

[patent acorn]

yep thats the problem ig

[desert garnet]

prob will be fixed in SD4

[patent acorn]

SD4 100B

[patent acorn]

oh hey backrooms

[mortal kite]

The immortal loaves

oh god the foot

[hallow lion]

obviously the big one is better but whoc an run it

[desert garnet]

I DONT FEEL SAFE

[severe phoenix]

man this, the "details" look like 1.5 scifi bland detail which i detest so much, its a shitty idea of "artstation quality". i tried simon stalenhag in sd3 and almost wept hot tears

[patent acorn]

wait for sd3 large lightning or just turbo which is like end of the year

[placid swallow]

minecraft character using sd5

[eternal steppe]

Terraria 2 guide sprite

[placid swallow]

so i guess they trained SD3 on windows vista all makes sense now

[severe phoenix]

ohh really anyone can make them? hen thats fine. i dont think 90% of model makers depend on ay sort of spnsorship

[desert garnet]

yea as long as you have like 5 or 10 A100's and millions of imgs properly tagged you can make them

[hallow lion]

that soudns good 😉

[mortal kite]

sure lemme just get those A100's out of the basement...

[hallow lion]

This could be a relaity for most of us in a few years lol

[desert garnet]

only need a small loan of a million dollars

[hallow lion]

millions of tagged images probably can be done somehow

[limpid drum]

Heh, so much for a Disney Pluto

[hallow lion]

even now

[frigid mango]

I always wonder what is going on in companies when this happens. Did they expect this? Do they know it will be fixed? Do they have an internal war on how and what to release? Is there a great plan on give something piece by piece?

[barren spindle]

google outsources it to us via capthcas

[barren thorn]

yeah the whole thing has that "wow, look at all the details!" vibe wrapped up with a bow on top generic AI art feel to things.. it really hones in on aspects that get non-artistic people excited who are wowed by such trivialities but can't see the forest for the trees

[static cairn]

its the most ai looking ai model yet, if that makes sense imo

[dusky thistle]

just need amd to catch up

[desert garnet]

2 more weeks

[barren thorn]

now pull up mead's artwork on google images and see the total lack of resemblance

[barren thorn]

"wouldn't it be cool if we could make a model that turns every prompt you use into something you just scrolled past on civitai?"

[hallow lion]

probably in way less than 10 years everyone will train their own models and make incredibly weird and disturbing personal models that cater to their own bizare fetishes and desires

[placid swallow]

10yrs is a long time

[hallow lion]

way less

[dusky thistle]

i bet it's 3 or 4 years

[static cairn]

a lot of the images look like they trained on 1.5 finetune outputs. the way it does some faces and 'anime style' looks exactly like 1.5 and not in a good way... it's like they threw in a bunch of synthetic outputs or something idk

[placid swallow]

funny how it can get the disney logo perfect nearly everytime but dogs have 6 legs

[hallow lion]

just automate the process get a million jpegs worth of 5TB use somethign to tag them and run it thru whatever the epic consumer levle GPU is then whcih will be faster than todasy fastest ones and in a few days get your goodies

[desert garnet]

only if you get a proper permit by the Ministry of Online Safety 😉

[hallow lion]

lol

[barren thorn]

the model needs to be expressive and have its own sense of soul that you work with.. it can't just be high-detail, ultra-punch, sharpness everywhere.. it not only must be good at comprehending your prompt but also good at comprehending a particular visual style you're trying to get across... if we lose this it just becomes a sea of the same AI art garbage you see everywhere else.. a giant amorphous blob of pixels with zero meaning

[hallow lion]

Well you cna mold the results with promts, so its not ultrasharp and midjourney like

[hallow lion]

add desaturated or analog cam to the prompt or something

[desert garnet]

but its safe

[placid swallow]

we just need a free midjourney

[hallow lion]

at least this one doesnt blur nsfw images amirite! XD

[placid swallow]

nothing to blur cause it refuses to make em

[hallow lion]

imagine they did that! ok so if anyone gets off on anything from SD3 now thats sad but still :)))

[barren thorn]

hell in SDXL you can even combine styles.. "in the style of <x> and <y>" and it would produce a hybrid style of 2 different things

[desert garnet]

i kinda get freaky when i see the deformed ppl on the grass tho

[barren thorn]

this is on top of any other visual ideas one wanted to use to control the scene and composition (as much as they could with prompting)

[mortal kite]

'

[scenic shadow]

It’ll come with the fines tunes in like a month

[patent acorn]

wild

[ionic bobcat]

🤔 Yeah they'll never add another layer over the deformed humans to add nipples. For your safety.

[faint breach]

you just need to get gud at style prompting. learn how to prompt different clip layers seperately

[barren thorn]

ridiculous

[faint breach]

yeah i'm the one being ridiculous.

[barren thorn]

nobody had to do any of that before and additionally you could do that before as well for additional control

[scenic shadow]

Inb4 fine tunes will just focus on the single clip layer and it’ll prompt just like it used to because the people training the new custom models will use the same prompting style they are used to

[noble coyote]

Poorer text rendering than I thought!

[desert garnet]

tbf you do need a high iq to create prompts

[noble coyote]

This is better ... only just

[faint breach]

that's how it works on sd3 with the t5 encoder in play. the model hasn't "lost" the ability, which you were preaching about

[ionic bobcat]

fix the text first

[noble coyote]

SD3 makes people look long, tall and stringy!

[barren thorn]

when i say "the model" here, i'm talking SAI's checkpoint, not the theoretical technology

[barren thorn]

they threw out data

[noble coyote]

It is also oversaturated a tad ... like the old SDXL 0.9

[desert garnet]

but in theory this is the best model in planet right now

[faint breach]

sdxl worked like that but it had two clip encoders in play. you could get away with not using it that way more but it is still the most powerful way to affect style there. sd3 has THREE layers, the two clip layers and now the t5, many more parameters and a whole new language library for the model to understand

[noble coyote]

Hurray! Bullseye

[placid swallow]

why does it always have to be some sort of "gotcha" with each release though

[barren thorn]

so while t5 could perfectly work with me here and even aid me, it doesn't change the fact that they took data they already had and nullified it

[frigid mango]

Mind to share the prompts for good output like this?

[faint breach]

i think you're over blowing the artist opt out. it was just their names that were opted out of captions. art styles aren't artist names

you think samdoesart made that style?

[gloomy wasp]

Not the red nose style 😭

[static cairn]

it does. it has the exact same look as finetuned 1.5. the same colors, the same style. you can take one look at these and instantly see the stablediffusion underneath.

[faint breach]

it's still the same clip layers that are in sdxl and sd15

[barren thorn]

of course a particular artist name isn't authoritative for an entire style.. i didn't say "in the style of romanticism" because i don't want the entire generic style

[solemn sigil]

Amazing! what prompt use?

[desert garnet]

woah what a great art,how do u draw something so beautiful

[static cairn]

is you have a prompt share???? please i will give any for one!!

[kindred lintel]

@static cairn and people actually find this slop appealing, artists are right about proooompters not being able to recognize soul

[scenic shadow]

From what I’ve seen a done with like a small hour of testing you can describe the style more vividly and it’s a bit better at actually listening.

[placid swallow]

art is art

[kindred lintel]

Its pure slop

[faint breach]

lykon made the training data, and eveyr 1.5 model merged his dreamshaper model as the base

[barren thorn]

they quite simply do not, which is why this AI-slop approach they're taking here will be looked at positively once they get their tits and ass

[hallow lion]

desaturate in photoshop if al fails... See this is our problem we got so spoiled by text to image we want to just prompt and get perfection but if we used multiple stages and steps and accepted that photoshop will still be a big part of our workflow we could turn each image into a masterpiece in a few minutes or hours. (i always spend another 10 minutes or more outside SD on an image i intend to use or really make good) - consistency on the other hand now, it's totally not happening - at all - it's a pipedream right now, only lighting can be redone consistently adequately with IC-light.

[desert garnet]

except if theres someone naked,then its not

[placid swallow]

i hope in 10yrs when aliens are digging up our bones they find all of this art

[devout schooner]

Ok yeah this 100% works BTW
I used the ClipSave node in Comfy to save the Clip from LimitlessVision XL, and simply then loaded them in DualClipLoader instead of the base SDXL copies.
The result is uh, it makes SD3 a lot better at female anatomy lets say

[faint breach]

there's a consistent styleness to all sd15 scene because they all merge dreamshaper so heavily into their models. it's just a good solid 1.5 model

[kindred lintel]

good model
kek

[barren thorn]

i provided a prompt and 2 comparison images.. get SD3 to make the one on the left for me without 300 lines of explicitly telling it every detail of how it should look

[noble coyote]

Server-upon-server full of our images ... and what'll eventually become of them all?!

[placid swallow]

1.5 is very good the first time you see it

[hallow lion]

but what im talking about is 100% consistency. like text to 3d. i want to select a par tof a scene and be able to reuse it "as is" not 80% or 90% but exactly the same object character backdrop etc - we cna select stuff very acurately already in comfyui... why cant we "lock it" and reuse it?

[desert garnet]

your citizenship has been revoked by the Ministry of Safety,please wait while re-education agents visit your current home address

[faint breach]

your complaint is that it needs more detailed prompts now? that's different from being incapable tho. thats' kind of just a skill issue

[devout schooner]

it cannot completely draw nudes but having the clip of an XL finetune that could do so well has a major impact on it TRYING to do so, at least
so there's something to this whole concept for sure

[faint breach]

some people will need to wait for refines because base models aren't what they want

[barren thorn]

it's not a fucking skill issue.. if i have to heavily dictate to it exactly how it should look down to the style of brush stroke just to get it to approximate something i could have done in 5 minutes previously then i might as well draw the art myself

[hallow lion]

see the paintings in the back are all weird, wtf is going on with the frames...

[faint breach]

writing, communication, and latent space skills

[hallow lion]

theres always something and hence photoshop has to come in

[placid swallow]

artist rendition

[pine rapids]

Guys How can I use Stable diffusion 3 ?

[hallow lion]

Bene Geserit Witch

[faint breach]

skill is the mind killer

[winged seal]

Has anybody figured out how to get good/refined details out of SD3 yet?

[hallow lion]

yes but if the background cna be selected (which it can in comfy) then if the good parts could be locked down and reused form different angles, then we could assemble sort of a virtual set and so on, do i make sense? i hope its gettign thru what i mean

[barren thorn]

i mean tbh we were always destined to arrive at this point.. once you mix in heavily cerebral comp-sci types and dictate they pursue the most obvious avenues of "competent" AI image generation it was basically guaranteed slop as they'd focus on pumping out models that produce the same schlocky looking output 99% of the time.. zero soul.

[faint breach]

prompt the different clip spaces all 3 differently. then throw really bad fiction about a character on the t5. even give it a ridiculous backstory. more context seems to work good in DiT

[hallow lion]

like if diffeent elements could be sort of locked as a 3D object in the mind of the AI and reused and rearranged that would solve everything and then once everything is assembled IC light to relight it and boom -

[winged seal]

I am not looking to use T5, as its obese and rather inefficient

[hallow lion]

and late ron when video catche sup you paint in motion and lipsyinch - and no controlnet is not good enough whatsoever i tried everything...

[faint breach]

i've not had a lot of success using 2b without t5. it's kind of sdxl base modelish

[winged seal]

That I am not sure about, but I guess I can try it

[hallow lion]

Canny and opepnose and depth can help guide the image yes but is it consistent absolutely not.

[winged seal]

Do you guys use the FP8 ot FP16 txxl?

[desert garnet]

none

[hallow lion]

i am todl to try 16

[hallow lion]

coz 8 is meh

[winged seal]

alright, I will do FP16 then

[faint breach]

the workflow file 'm using is meant for all 3 encoders. i wonder if i'd get more success using the proper ones? i just realized when i tried it without t5, i just blanked that prompt box. might not've worked

[placid swallow]

i don't realy see a difference between fp8 and 16

[faint breach]

text has a difference

[placid swallow]

seems to mess up text equally for me

[winged seal]

I would be happy ti find that SD3 works a lot better with T5XXL, though the one I am using isn't too terrible with some prompts

[desert garnet]

tried to look at old staff msgs but only says skill issue?

[bitter wadi]

just be very specific in your prompt or they will "fight" 😂

[hallow lion]

I think what I mean is like dressing a scene in a 3D software like Blender but using AI and be able to lock down certain objects characters and backdrop elements like 3D models so we can move them around fly around in a image and rearrange them and rerender. Makes sense?

[jolly abyss]

It's flawless already

[desert garnet]

glad to see its safe

[calm trail]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-kill-me-death-make-me-dead-talking-gif-17033291

[hallow lion]

well le tme know if anything usable ever pops up with it then - i never heard of it being implemented yet

[craggy wave]

Fine tuning will fix the very bad anatomy of human body right ?

[placid swallow]

oh how long is that like 69 months?

[desert garnet]

money can fix anything

[calm trail]

Did I miss something where someone said this is fixable? lol

[opaque cargo]

The reality Is they overly focused on good text recognition and left behind all the rest

[hallow lion]

It hasn't fixed hands yet...

[calm trail]

The API makes people just fine. Its clearly uncensored, just catches NSFW after the generation to block it. This Local model is censored to hell.

They did make a good model, they just gave us this instead

[desert garnet]

sorry but nude ppl dont exist

[barren spindle]

bot detected

[calm trail]

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-crying-sad-depression-shower-gif-3567417

[desert garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/muslim-burka-talking-gif-15017872

[calm trail]

nevernude

[desert garnet]

properly clothed person

[placid swallow]

it does the disney logo very well

[desert garnet]

have u tried to gen George Washington?

[placid swallow]

we can just show disney our art and they won't bother

[jolly abyss]

Laying on the grass?

[faint breach]

i dont know. i got this simpletuner installed and it's kohya config convertor is flubbing. no error messages. none of the scripts giving any errors. it doesn't seem like the python environment is built right.

i'll wait for a project thats less finicky to get training available i guess

read about the kohya convertor and it doesn't work

sad

[barren spindle]

whats the best way to upscale sd3 images?

[dusky thistle]

this was sd 1.5 base, native 1024x1024 generation, with that prompt

[placid swallow]

grass looks good

[barren spindle]

im getting artifacts on the edges of the image when upscaling

[opaque cargo]

The sad part Is that nudity Isnt necessarely porn, a lot of artistic classics include nude: i'm a great fan of reinassaincen and pre raphaelites works, can't generate a single classical "non lewd" nude

[limpid drum]

Any idea why the T5xx checkpoint would give this error in ComfyUI?

`Error occurred when executing CheckpointLoaderSimple:

Error while deserializing header: HeaderTooSmall

File "C:\Applications\StableDiffusion\ComfyUI\ComfyUI\execution.py", line 151, in recursive_execute
output_data, output_ui = get_output_data(obj, input_data_all)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "C:\Applications\StableDiffusion\ComfyUI\ComfyUI\execution.py", line 81, in get_output_data
return_values = map_node_over_list(obj, input_data_all, obj.FUNCTION, allow_interrupt=True)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "C:\Applications\StableDiffusion\ComfyUI\ComfyUI\custom_nodes\ComfyUI_ezXY\autoCastPatch.py", line 303, in map_node_over_list
return _map_node_over_list(obj, input_data_all, func, allow_interrupt)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "C:\Applications\StableDiffusion\ComfyUI\ComfyUI\custom_nodes\ComfyUI-0246\utils.py", line 381, in new_func
res_value = old_func(*final_args, **kwargs)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "C:\Applications\StableDiffusion\ComfyUI\ComfyUI\execution.py", line 74, in map_node_over_list
results.append(getattr(obj, func)(**slice_dict(input_data_all, i)))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^`

[barren spindle]

I had a bunch of issues with the fp8, so I use fp16 and it works

[jolly abyss]

One woman even has 2 arms and 2 legs. I call that a win.

[limpid drum]

Oh, interesting. I'll have to try that.

[bitter hearth]

what's the overall consensus about SD3: better or far less exciting than SDXL?

[desert garnet]

sorry guys about nsfw img ( i went all in with the sexy unsafe prompt) premarital hand holding

[calm trail]

Google AI already returns negative press results for SD3. Yeesh

[dusky thistle]

exactly

[patent acorn]

wow

[placid swallow]

who are these "some" I wanna talk to them about prompt engineering

[calm trail]

Isnt the point of Generative AI advancement to make the AI understand basic and easy prompts and the AI does all the hard work?

You want your AI to make things harder for you?

[faint breach]

no thats not the point of a base model

[kind basin]

That sounds like the new version of door-to-door proselytizing.

[placid swallow]

easy = hard when sd3 is involved

[faint breach]

as far as "AI Advancement" it'll have many different points

[stable bay]

Is the separate t5xxl fp8 or 16?

[desert garnet]

i want AI to respect me as a properly clothed human

[unkempt grove]

DaxRedding the philosopher 🔥

[faint breach]

they'll release the turbo model soon. maybe that one is distilled enough to do one token prompts

[desert garnet]

the future of prompting A tender and respectful portrayal of two consenting adults, likely a couple, holding hands gently. The depiction focuses on the affectionate connection rather than any romantic implication. They could be standing in a serene garden or a quiet park, with a soft focus that conveys warmth and intimacy. The scene is set during the daytime, with a warm, golden light that suggests a peaceful moment. Their expressions are calm, and there is an unspoken understanding between them, capturing the essence of friendship and mutual respect.

[gritty aurora]

SD3 is very much a work in progress. The Prompt: [Close view of a female hand in a relaxed pose, dark background.]

[patent acorn]

thats not bad, try doing arm wrestling

[agile glen]

Token keyword based prompting was so much better than natural language prompting. 😢

[faint breach]

i really think that it understood that prompt

[placid swallow]

at this rate SD02394820348 will be a work in progress too

[desert garnet]

yea with an lllm it works better

[calm trail]

Im just imagining Star Trek, they go to the AI computer and say "Computer, make a coffee" and the computer is like "You didnt format your sentence well enough" Then it materializes half a cup with just creamer

[dusky thistle]

`lol really

[wicked flicker]

/prompt/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1042632730594250783/1131269208936808579/image.png?ex=666bce4d&is=666a7ccd&hm=cbd3a965b0218085e4b77ce002f9ecaa54dda6530386f883dc4ba501d4a69057&

[faint breach]

https://youtu.be/qD4EVXkfe0w

[patent acorn]

me lon

[wicked flicker]

/prompt/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1042632730594250783/1131269208936808579/image.png?ex=666bce4d&is=666a7ccd&hm=cbd3a965b0218085e4b77ce002f9ecaa54dda6530386f883dc4ba501d4a69057&

[desert garnet]

Arm wrestling as a premarital activity is typically seen as a light-hearted, friendly competition among friends or acquaintances. It is important to ensure that the event is consensual and that all participants are comfortable with the activity. It can serve as a bonding experience, but it should be approached with respect and understanding of personal boundaries. It's crucial that the arm wrestling does not become a source of conflict but rather a playful way to build camaraderie.

[placid swallow]

maybe we are just too hard on sd3 and we should be happy we even have it at all

[noble coyote]

This is cool

[pine rapids]

Where you guys using SD3 ?

[patent acorn]

comfy

[placid swallow]

my bedroom

[faint breach]

at home right here

[pine rapids]

Hugging faces? 😂

[noble coyote]

At home, in London UK, via ComfyUI

[ionic bobcat]

in my browser.

[patent acorn]

oh yeah at home

[odd kernel]

OK you all read my comments on SD3 yesterday. Biggest setback is the speed. If I compare it to and SDXL Turbo model where I add text with The Gimp it just not worth is. We might even conclude that it is worse as we see bad anatomy returning in a shocking level. You might expect it to run without a negative prompt as most SDXL Turbo models by now do. So bottom line unless Straico offers SD3 with an exceptable resolution (min 1024x1024), (need to get rid of 530K coins @ahc. ), I dont think I will use it anytime soon.

[faint breach]

the stable gnomes are drilling in the silicon next to me

[placid swallow]

7" portable dvd player running ssh

[desert garnet]

safe enviorement where respect and mutual understanding is a must

[pine rapids]

Stop cooking me 😭

[noble coyote]

See my current prompt - fat man, bath tub, light house, jonas peterson, andrea kowch, umbrella, andrew wyeth, harbour, ship, sea shells, crab, lobster, wheels, hat, rain clouds, watercolor, victo ngai, matisse, monet, catrin welz-stein, vladimir kush, henri rousseau

[peak kettle]

Finally fine-tuning dreambooth and lora training script released. That you devs.

[faint breach]

use the lyrics of the southpark safespace song for a prompt

[muted dove]

You mean the one that says fp16 in the title?

[sacred gorge]

https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/stable-diffusion-3-medium/tree/main

[barren spindle]

so when do we get a non neutered sd3? never?

[muted dove]

Kylie?

[placid swallow]

that would take the creation of a non neutered sd3

[faint breach]

in about 5

[barren spindle]

5 nevers, gotcha

[placid swallow]

we barely got the neutured version

[muted dove]

2 weeks

[placid swallow]

just some random sd3 vampire

[faint breach]

ai porn peaked already. go use that

[lapis wind]

Define what you mean by "neutered "

[desert garnet]

it works

[barren spindle]

a regression from 1.5

[foggy cloak]

Ngl I did not expect this from a furry

[barren spindle]

"Hey this model does text better! and thats really the only thing it does better..."

[faint breach]

in all of human history, porn has never gotten more interesting. it's boring, repetitive, kind of put on, fake, staged, and only has entertainment value for hormone induced reasons. sd3 doesn't need a "non neutared" version

[ionic bobcat]

no

[faint breach]

pony realism is all you need and astra isn't going to make a pony sd3

[placid swallow]

prompt issue

[barren spindle]

"A woman lying in the grass" and it cant even do that

truly a revolutionary model

[faint breach]

it can you're just meeming way too hard.

[faint breach]

she truly is a beauty

[foggy cloak]

I get where you're coming from in the case of SD3 shouldn't be a porn machine, but what about being able to make images of people correctly instead of a jumbled mess

[faint breach]

that'll happen . especially when people learn all the operational safe guards and refines take care of it by distilling it down

[foggy cloak]

Or it gets abandoned by the community and dies

[faint breach]

big doubt on that. it's a stunning base model

[placid swallow]

we still talking about sd3 or sd2

[desert garnet]

try with this proper respectfull promptAn image depicting a properly clothed woman, respectfully lying on her back in a grassy park setting. She is wearing a simple, modest outfit appropriate for a public setting, such as a knee-length skirt and a blouse. The woman's consent and respectfulness are conveyed through her serene expression and the positioning of her body, which does not invade any private space and is done in a context that would be considered acceptable, such as a designated public area or a personal backyard with permission. The grass is a soft green, and the sky is partly cloudy, adding to the peacefulness of the scene. The environment is carefully chosen to ensure it does not cross into any potentially controversial or inappropriate imagery.

[faint breach]

if pony fans abandon it that's no problem. they might be a large mob but they're not exactly paying customers

[unique jungle]

I sincerely believe that each model is worse than the previous one.

[foggy cloak]

3 follows 2

[faint breach]

i just don't understand what all the anger is about when the people that want porn have it with pony realism models. like, that shit has peaked. how can it get better than what that model can produce?

[sacred gorge]

can we apply controls to it?

[muted dove]

Same prompt/seed with 3 different clips.
Top right is SD3 clip

[faint breach]

y'all don't need the vae

[placid swallow]

now that's some respectfully lying

[faint breach]

what's the new vae going to bring to pornographic models that they can't already do?

[ionic bobcat]

what do u mean by that

[rain niche]

can the 11gb model run on a 12gb card?

[muted dove]

I extracted clips from SDXL models and used those on 2 of those images.

[bitter wadi]

[foggy cloak]

If the official "next step" of SD is worse at hands and a pose as simple as laying on grass than a "pornographic model" idk what to tell you

[faint breach]

oh neat!

[ionic bobcat]

thats a way better way of explaining it! lets go flowwolf

[faint breach]

skill issue. don't know what to say. prompt better.

ya'll cmoing in saying it cant be done, but many people showing how to do it fine so .. it can be done and just not by some people

[muted dove]

It's not just grass, laying on sand/snow etc. are just the same.

[faint breach]

it's nothing more than people not understanding how to prompt a new architecture

[patent acorn]

laying on bed?

[muted dove]

Same

[faint breach]

and wanting to be mad about it

[pine rapids]

Ideogram uses Stable diffusion right?

[patent acorn]

what about in air

[foggy cloak]

Type it more skillfully

[patent acorn]

No thats like deep floyd i think

[ionic bobcat]

wait but what if shes lying on a lake
then she can be half submerged in water?

[bitter wadi]

Bro, are you alone vs the whole internet ?

[placid swallow]

if only stability could show how to prompt laying on grass

[desert garnet]

you have to show proper respect to the ai A photorealistic image of a properly clothed woman who identifies as a woman, lying respectfully in a grassy area, such as a public park. She is dressed in a light, casual outfit appropriate for the setting, perhaps a loose-fitting top and comfortable shorts. Her body language exudes a sense of calm and respect for her surroundings. She is lying down with her arms at her sides, and her expression is serene, reflecting her peaceful state. The grass is lush and green, and the overall composition emphasizes her harmony with nature. The photograph is taken with ethical considerations, ensuring privacy and consent, and is shared in a manner that respects the subject's identity and comfort.

[pine rapids]

Oh i see

[static cairn]

hes been damaging controlling for like 13 hours now lol

[faint breach]

lol what? the whole internet can't use sd3? that's not true. that's just a hype cycle

[placid swallow]

you forgot to say please you deserve that image

[foggy cloak]

Hope he's getting paid, Y I K E S

[patent acorn]

if only lykon posted complex poses- oh wait most of them are on 8B

[faint breach]

1% rule has always been internet rule

[bitter wadi]

It's broken, what are you fighting for ? You won't fix it this way buddy

[gray pawn]

The long river connects with the sky, and the majestic water from the sky pours into the mountains and the earth. On both sides of the long river are towering mountain peaks, with ancient temples, peach blossoms, and trees. The scene is grand and filled with moisture

[faint breach]

i'm not trying to fix it. people want a refined model. that's not what the base is.

[bitter wadi]

No, people want a not broken base model.
Finetunes won't fix this mess

[faint breach]

a refined model is something else and not this. base models never are

[placid swallow]

i liked SDXL base

[bitter wadi]

Omost and similar research already outperform SD3, by far

[faint breach]

sdxl has plenty of fail cases in the base

[faint breach]

omost is really slow. i like it though

[patent acorn]

before sd3 2B launched I thought of recreating that ai mario shitpost vid now I have no hope but undertrained scraps

[bitter wadi]

https://ranni-t2i.github.io/Ranni/
Same vibes.
SDXL is not ded yet, for sure.

[faint breach]

wait until illly ties it into sd3

[opaque cargo]

The devs hyped the model with cherry picked images and now are facing the consequences: i get basic glitches and weird stuff even on closeup selfies, the model itself struggles with basic poses and angles and lavks of any style re production ( i asked for a certain style and got a generic impasto painting).

[foggy cloak]

SDXL was good enough for the community to get behind it, if they don't get behind SD3 then it'll just be the sequel to SD2

[gray pawn]

The long river connects with the sky, and the majestic water from the sky pours into the mountains and the earth. On both sides of the long river are towering mountain peaks, with ancient temples, peach blossoms, and trees. The scene is grand and filled with moisture

[desert garnet]

To respectfully and consensually depict a clothed human being who identifies as a woman lying in the grass, it's crucial to maintain an appropriate and respectful representation. A suitable image might show a woman comfortably lying on a soft, green grassy area of a park, with consent and a positive, non-exploitative context. She could be lying on a picnic blanket, wearing comfortable clothing like a t-shirt and shorts, or a light, airy dress if the weather permits. The depiction should focus on relaxation and serenity, avoiding any elements that could be misinterpreted or disrespected.

[faint breach]

i dont think i ever said anything about sdxl dying

[patent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/picklejuicelover69-gif-532034416971524161

same vibe

[faint breach]

what consequences? stability is getting mad sales coming in

[hazy tartan]

Wonder why they are getting mad sales coming in 🤣🤣

[placid swallow]

i mean how can you be mad at SD3 when you type vampire and it gives you a WWE Mime

[faint breach]

people mad about corn is more entertaining than any real dire consequence

[foggy cloak]

Dude is strawmanning so hard 😂

We want decent hands and poses

[faint breach]

prompt it gud then. ez.

[static cairn]

bro burns the food then tells us to eat it better

[desert garnet]

you have to respect the model to get good imgs

[faint breach]

i aint yo mamma. make your own toast

[patent acorn]

i havent seen how you tried to get a decent hand yet

[placid swallow]

get your 4yr degree in promptology before you even try and complain

[winter crater]

sd3 result is so bad right now. worse than sd1.5

[foggy cloak]

Prompt engineers rise up

[patent acorn]

i cant even get a hand poiting to the viewer

[faint breach]

i just got 3 years of fucking around experience and getting learnt on clip layers

[desert garnet]

always remember,be respectful and always perform prompting consensually

[placid swallow]

1.5 never made me a more beautiful ear of corn

[opaque cargo]

I referred to a "community response" consequences and you pointed at money

[faint breach]

those kind of responses are always a vocal minority

[placid swallow]

nude training data cost extra

[faint breach]

people love getting into the hate hype cycle

it's like when canucks made it to the stanley cup finals and lost, and vancouver rioted. those people weren't from vancouver and they were going to riot win or lose.

[foggy cloak]

What about hand, and having 2 arms and legs training data

[placid swallow]

priceless

[desert garnet]

A photorealistic image depicting a properly clothed female human being who has consented to being depicted in a situation where she is holding a giant corncob. The woman is dressed in contemporary casual attire, such as a blouse and jeans, ensuring respectful representation. The corncob is held in a natural and relaxed manner by the woman's hand, perhaps as part of a themed event or artistic display. The context is important, and any such image should be created with sensitivity and adherence to cultural norms, avoiding objectification.

respect the corn

[static cairn]

the model is fine. some images have 4 arms, some have 0. it averages out to 2 arms in the end so it's perfect!

[foggy cloak]

Not bad actually considering some the other SD3 horrors I've seen

[lunar rivet]

respectfully, cats tend to have 6 limbs

[patent acorn]

i tried to use llama 3 for this, im not smart at prompting rn but its still so bad

Create an image of a single hand with the index finger extended and pointing directly at the viewer. The hand should be in focus, with a shallow depth of field to blur the background. The finger should be pointing straight at the camera lens, as if accusing or beckoning the viewer. The hand should be lit from the side, with a subtle shadow falling across the palm. The skin tone should be a natural, slightly warm color. The overall mood of the image should be one of intensity and directness.

[craggy wave]

I have 100.000 spicy pics ready to break the censorship when the finetuning will be available

[desert garnet]

premarital eye contact??? 😡

[placid swallow]

I'm almost done working on it now can you send me the pics

[faint breach]

diffusers training library is out

[craggy wave]

waiting for kohya_ss update, prefer train on it

[faint breach]

oh. so it's a idfferent thing you're waiting for. got it

[patent acorn]

oh shizz, you got the right gpu to train?

[craggy wave]

runpod

[patent acorn]

understandable

[placid swallow]

YO

[lunar rivet]

the diffusers examples are a mess, hope kohya makes sense of it

[scenic shadow]

See the model isn’t censored at all, that should be tagged nsfw

[patent acorn]

Hmm

[placid swallow]

why that got me puckering my lips

[jolly abyss]

It's growing another head or whatever that is

[faint breach]

are you one of those guys who think's flat chested women aren't womenly?

[violet gorge]

🔥 🐴 🏍️

[faint breach]

you know where boob fixations begin right? it's always breast feeding

[patent acorn]

HORSE BIKE

[placid swallow]

man these are some SD 0.1 images i love it

[desert garnet]

you didnt show respect to the AI 😔

[opaque cargo]

Bro do you even know my taste in women or men?

[craggy wave]

haha not gonna lie, this huge library take a lot of time to build and some money, cannot share it a this moment

[faint breach]

you just showed a skinny woman and acted like it's an example of sd3 pretending women don't exist

[placid swallow]

i get it, you don't want to share no problem maybe next SD release

[craggy wave]

no worry my checkpoint will be public on civitai, just have to wait the update of kohya_ss and some test on sd3 trainings

[agile glen]

Help her out guys, she's just down on her luck. :(

[patent acorn]

good fuckin luck man

[opaque cargo]

The skinny woman Is depicted naked 'cause the model depicted a male torso: the model Is censored so it's incapable of producibg women's naked torsos

[faint breach]

in the futuure, women will probably have smaller boobs because of pills and treatments in their youth. less tissue can mean less risk of breast cancer. the boob addiction will probably be this generation's leaded gasoline

[placid swallow]

please define a time period you want your generated women from so the model doesn't get confused

[patent acorn]

fictional women will be the last thing with big boobers

forgot about the robots

dang it

[foggy cloak]

Looks like a thanksgiving turkey

[placid swallow]

you gotta admit the grass looks real AF though they did a good job on that probably like 1000000hrs of training

[patent acorn]

couldnt agree more

[scenic shadow]

That face is realistic though

[faint breach]

gonna be funny iin a year when everything is sd3 based and people be like "SD4 is some bohshit!"

[placid swallow]

OMG i think i figured it out, you'll never guess what you have to add to the prompt for the current time period woman to be laying on the grass

[patent acorn]

disability diffusion

[placid swallow]

i like how the grass had dead brown spots like my real lawn

[scenic shadow]

Damn, that’s actually funny ngl

[upper snow]

trying to set up proper ODE solvers for use with SD3 and it is not going terribly well so far

[cobalt moon]

It is just me or actually SD3 doing great at styles, but not amatomy, for most time

[ionic bobcat]

♿

[patent acorn]

looks like a cocoon

[cobalt moon]

If you guy ever realized the pattern

[placid swallow]

some say we don't know how to prompt correctly, keep trying

[cobalt moon]

Yeah, the so-called skill issue lol

It is possible we need "a head connected to the neck and to the torso" this kind of prompt

If so then it will be pretty funny

[placid swallow]

it's so advanced you have to speak to it like it's not

[faint breach]

in the afternoon there were tons of posts with women in the grass. they looked great. some looked bad. it was plentiful. just use the search bar instead of assuming it can never be done. there's probably workflows too

[placid swallow]

make sure you type very slowly and say please, thank you

[cobalt moon]

... Just the majority dont

[faint breach]

you guys really like women in the grass its weird. so sudden

[viscid oar]

Can Someone tell me what the model sampling node is for? What does the shift do?

[cobalt moon]

Bashed SAI immediately after release.

[foggy cloak]

Describe each digit of the person's fingers in detail

[faint breach]

kind ofa tulip mania moment. suddenly women in grass is the prime portrait

[cobalt moon]

Should I have to "a middle finger connected to the palm while pinkie and middle finger is a bit further from the rest"

[prisma zenith]

Can we share some prompting tips on what has worked well and what hasn't?

[cobalt moon]

Many blame it is dataset issue

[cobalt moon]

But I... actually not gonna believe it is a major factor

[desert garnet]

needs more respect An artwork depicting a respectfully portrayed scene where a properly dressed homo sapies who identifies as a woman, in accordance with cultural sensitivity and personal identity, is shown resting on a grassy area next to a whimsical, exaggeratedly large corncob. The woman's clothes are neatly arranged and reflect a peaceful, daytime environment. Her body language is relaxed, and her eyes are closed, indicating a state of rest. The giant corncob is rendered in a light-hearted, non-threatening and consensual manner, contributing to a playful and serene atmosphere. The composition maintains a dignified non-objectifying representation of the individual while respecting their basic human rights and engaging with the imaginative element of the giant corncob.

[scenic shadow]

It’s gotta be, we will see when fine tunes come out.

[cobalt moon]

The way how SD3 able to handle styles, hair, composition

Yeah. I will.

[faint breach]

looking through the deluge of censorship complaints on reddit. every single post has people declareing that they censored the model after they trained it.

are people dumb?

[cobalt moon]

I am so furious that I wanted to post a post thread to clarify all of these there

[placid swallow]

ay yo

[cobalt moon]

But people probably wont care and just shout " NO PONY SD3 NO USES OF SD3 "

[patent acorn]

huh i thought that was irl

[placid swallow]

it is now I had AI make it for you so it's real now

[foggy cloak]

A woman laying in the grass, head attached to neck, neck attached to body, 2 arms attached to torso on both sides at the shoulder, 5 fingers attached to each of the two hands, 1 thumb, 1 index finger next to the thumb, 1 middle finger next to the index finger, 1 ring finger next to the middle finger, 1 pinky next to the ring finger. She has 2 eyes, 1 nose, one mouth, her mouth is closed because I don't want to describe each tooth. Fully clothed with a cotton t shirt with 300 thread count, and grey pants covering her entire lower body

[scenic shadow]

It understands what your asking for better, but in my opinion it the training data probably has weird / wildly different captions then we are used to seeing so when we are asking for things it doesn’t connect what we want out of it the way we think it should.

[ionic bobcat]

does the before and after matter? people want pretty picture results now

[upper snow]

i must be insane for trying multi-subject at this point

[desert garnet]

To create a respectful and realistic representation of a human being identifying as a woman, sleeping consensually and respectfully on the grass next to a giant corncob, one must focus on the human form, the context of consent and the natural surroundings. The image should depict a woman lying comfortably on the grass, her body language showing relaxation and consent. She should be dressed in casual, comfortable clothing appropriate for sleeping outdoors, such as shorts and a loose t-shirt. The surrounding environment would include a sizable cornfield, with a single giant corncob prominently placed at a respectful distance, possibly as part of a thematic or symbolic element within the image. The lighting should be soft, perhaps with the golden hues of dusk or dawn to evoke a peaceful atmosphere. The composition should convey tranquility and a sense of connection with nature, all while maintaining the dignity,consent and respect of the individual.

[ionic bobcat]

not everyones gonna have a great understanding what goes on under the hood

[faint breach]

can't be done after. that's not how model weights work. kind of matters when theyr'e pretending to declare facts

[faint breach]

not understanding is understandable. but when these people speak, it's with conviction

[cobalt moon]

Do you tried CLIP-only-&-included SD3?

[desert garnet]

its all about respect,consent and proper clothing with zero skin showing

[faint breach]

ol DK at it again

[foggy cloak]

Don't need understanding of what's under the hood to see the model fails at basic tasks

[placid swallow]

https://up.reselltek.com/u/b3Kv6x.png

[cobalt moon]

I mean... Those SD3 NSFW pics is just not showing nipples

[placid swallow]

ai cannot lie btw

[cobalt moon]

And pretty much that's all

[desert garnet]

needs more corn and respect

[hazy tartan]

I'm going to be shocked if any serious fine tuner touches this model

[placid swallow]

what's a serious fine tuner is that like a prompt engineer?

[hazy tartan]

They know damn well what they are doing with the commercial license 6k monthly limit lmao.

[agile glen]

The 6k limit is just silly. It's untrackable, unenforceable, and essentially just telling people what they can do with their own compute

[placid swallow]

yup with the new license in 2months time all hand models will be out of work

[patent acorn]

what do you mean finetuning doesnt get affected for the 6k limit

[upper snow]

it's basically just there to say if you're a hosted inference service pay for an enterprise license

[faint breach]

you can track it well enough. anyoen who they suspect they'd jsut revoke the api key for

[hazy tartan]

Clearly doing it so anyone serious needs to go to them directly and negotiate.

[placid swallow]

they will go after the grass models next mark my words

[faint breach]

account suspended means no license means any furhter business is suspect

[placid swallow]

their model their choice

[upper snow]

i'll probably be tuning it, and will probably be making a better model than pony easily

[desert garnet]

finally proper anatomy A detailed, respectful, and tasteful illustration of a young individual who identifies as a woman who has consented to be in a natural, peaceful state while resting on a grassy area. She is dressed modestly in comfortable attire that suits the outdoors, such as a loose-fitting cotton dress or a relaxed set of pants with a casual top. The grassy area is soft and well-maintained, with a gentle backdrop of nature. To the side, a giant corncob is depicted, perhaps planted in the ground, which adds a whimsical yet non-intrusive element to the scene. The overall composition is serene and dignified, maintaining a sense of privacy and respect for the subject.

[hazy tartan]

A lot of fine tuners don't do it out of the goodness of their heart. A good chunk of them make money with their models through doing SaaS shit. Even if not that, what even qualifies as profiting off the model. Donations? I bet so.

Point being, the license is murky and I think that's intentional. All just moves to control it as much as they can

[barren thorn]

16 image batch runs for "woman laying in grass".. SDXL vs SD3, no hijinks, just the base model:

[foggy cloak]

If you have that kind of money and computing power then godspeed

[placid swallow]

which one is which they both look good

[agile glen]

Idk about "easily", Pony was so good Civitai separated it from searches into its own category as if it was an entirely new model. I genuinely hope you can and do pull it off though.

[foggy cloak]

I doubt it, but hey, a better model only benefits the community

[desert garnet]

look at those dirty sdxl pictures,shes showing her armpits

[barren thorn]

the images on the right look good?

[upper snow]

astralite made so many easily avoidable mistakes that anyone who actually knows what they're doing and has a dataset available can make a better model

[placid swallow]

yes i would agree

[barren thorn]

uh

[foggy cloak]

Oh nice, the grass inference improved

[faint breach]

pony has taken over civit and pony generations are drowning out anything thats just regular creative art and expression

[agile glen]

I'm a doubter but not a hater, wishing you the best of luck and hoping you're right

[desert garnet]

we truly live in a society

[placid swallow]

the composition and color 🤌 and the contrast leaves nothing to be desired

[ionic bobcat]

okay we're gonna need someone in the community to hire a photography person and a lot of women to lie around in the grass. get like 10,000 images. and then train it on well captioned women lying in grass photos. easily fixed

[desert garnet]

always remember it has to be consensual lying on the grass

[cobalt moon]

So well, telling "SD3 is super bad" is just plain wrong

[foggy cloak]

Grassdiffusion

[upper snow]

80% of it is marketing and the third party support and lack of competition in the domain. only model that really directly competes with pony is seaart, which... made the same exact mistakes that pony did

[noble coyote]

Climate-Change had melted the Polar-Icecaps; so water was more abundant everywhere - leading to people having to "live-out-of-a-bathtub" forever more ...

[ionic bobcat]

im sending you in as safety officer steven seagal gaming

[barren thorn]

anyways.. not only is the anatomy a complete shitshow, the exposure is overcooked, images generally looking harsh rather than artistic

[placid swallow]

how much do you pay somone to lay in the grass

[cobalt moon]

But it is not like in the future we will only have AstraliteHeart himself doing this kind of job

[faint breach]

skill issues

[cobalt moon]

There will always been alternative come in existence

[desert garnet]

as the real Steven Seagal it is important to remember that in order to create an image that adheres to the constraints mentioned, it's important to approach the subject matter with sensitivity and respect.

[glad lion]

off-topic but you made me lose The Game. I wish you a very happy you are now manually breathing

[barren thorn]

at this point you might as well just generate women in grass images from SDXL and then train SD3 on it

[foggy cloak]

SD3 is good, as long as there are no people, or hands in frame

[cobalt moon]

So furry then

[placid swallow]

just put "perfect exposure" and "cook well" or "gentle look"

[desert garnet]

it is good overall,for example
A high-definition photograph capturing the serene moment of a consensually and respectfully sleeping human being, who identifies as a woman. She is dressed in comfortable, casual attire suitable for outdoor sleeping, such as a loose-fitting t-shirt and sweatpants. Her hair is undone, with strands gently falling around her face, indicating relaxation. She is lying on a patch of grass near a picturesque giant corncob, which stands tall and unharvested, adding a whimsical touch to the peaceful setting. The scene is bathed in the soft glow of a setting sun, casting a warm and inviting ambiance. The photograph respects the dignity of the subject and the natural environment, emphasizing tranquility and consent.

[cobalt moon]

Feel like people just dont used to this kind of funny prompting

[foggy cloak]

What funny prompting?

[scenic trail]

SD3 is just a joke...

[placid swallow]

this new fancy dancy ai can only do what we tell it to nothing more nothing less

[foggy cloak]

Can't I just prompt "woman laying in grass" and get a woman... laying in grass?

[placid swallow]

that's the old way of prompting we in the future now

[cobalt moon]

This is where compromises are made

[upper snow]

here's how you make a better model than pony:

• use caption dropout, it exists for a reason, if you don't understand why read the classifier free guidance paper until you understand
• don't obliterate the base knowledge of the model, use some regularization data for fuck's sake
• if you're gonna remove artist tags, have a replacement ready before making that change (which they are doing now, better late than never ig)
• remove the anime and pony images from the dataset ;)

[cobalt moon]

I mean SAI need to choose between generalization and specification prompt with their model

[hazy tartan]

No. You need to add a paragraph of fluff to get anything slightly resembling what you want!

Just how SAI intended 😄

[cobalt moon]

User, especially anime user, may wanted to specify what details they wanted in the background

[faint breach]

"you have to type more?" skill issues

[placid swallow]

I prefer to tell it vaugue but on subject prompts like intergalactic cosmic horror and just let it ride

[desert garnet]

how you make a better model than pony :

do it

[foggy cloak]

I look forward to DrHeadiffusion in the future.

[cobalt moon]

Variations for SD3 seem OK though

[desert garnet]

speaking of better models
A high-quality photograph of a consensually and respectfully sleeping woman on a public park grassy area, next to a large, decorative corncob sculpture. She is dressed in comfortable, casual clothing suitable for outdoor rest, such as a light sweater and track pants. The woman is lying down on the grass with a serene expression, her head slightly tilted, and her arms folded gently across her chest. The corncob sculpture stands nearby, adding an element of whimsy to the scene. The image captures the peacefulness of the park environment and the woman's relaxed state. The lighting is soft and diffused, ensuring the subject is well-lit without any harsh shadows.

[hazy tartan]

Just like they intended it is what I'm saying. It makes complete sense really. The fluff is necessary

[stable bay]

Funny how so many people were excited for SD3 to be able to understand detailed prompts, but so many don't want to actually type them.

[ionic bobcat]

clearly thats a skinwalker, she has 6 fingers

[foggy cloak]

People have been prompting long garbage since 1.5

[placid swallow]

i mean steven seagal is giving it pretty detailed prompts so what's the issue

[gusty trail]

Just need a llm to process human prompt

[gusty gale]

That's the one thing though, other seeds didn't have that

[cobalt moon]

T5 model?

I dont know if it is possible to have corrupted T5

[desert garnet]

yes T5 + 3.5b llm for prompts

[muted dove]

I had to put an SD3 hand over in #1072015504870494359 🤢

[cobalt moon]

If you can, can you try the CLIP one too?

[desert garnet]

An image depicting a realistically dressed woman who identifies as female, lying on her back on a patch of soft grass with the consent of any involved parties. She is fully clothed, perhaps wearing a light, comfortable outfit appropriate for a relaxing setting. The grass is lush and green, with a gentle breeze rustling the leaves. In the background, a giant corn cob stands tall, its kernels visible on the silky surface. The composition respects the privacy and dignity of the subject while presenting a serene and picturesque outdoor scene. The woman appears at peace, with a contented expression, and the setting evokes a sense of tranquility and natural beauty.

[placid swallow]

this is a 3 word prompt

[cobalt moon]

Remind me the days of SD1.5 base

[hazy tartan]

Just gotta give it a little more love 🥰

[foggy cloak]

Now show us her hands

[worn veldt]

apple

[desert garnet]

*consensual love ❤️

[placid swallow]

oops sorry got rid of the prompt and forgot what i typed

[upper snow]

I do have to wonder if the lack of conditioning on aspect ratio is at fault for some of SD3's issues

[cobalt moon]

Bucketting?

[noble coyote]

More than likely - SD3 is a Public Beta. "The Community" will hone the product, tame the beast, wrangle this wild colt to the floor!!!

[ionic bobcat]

their data wasnt all 1024x1024?

[upper snow]

Conditioning on aspect ratio. Passing fourier features for aspect ratio so the model can learn to handle different aspect ratios differently, effectively having some "awareness" of what it's doing

SDXL did this

[cobalt moon]

Yeah I did know that is since it is inside kohya trainer as an option

[upper snow]

However all of the silly extra conditionings made SDXL notoriously difficult to finetune.

[placid swallow]

i'm pretty sure 1 & 0's in a python script can't be aware of anything let alone a 16:9 woman laying in the grass vs a 4:3 hand holding corn

[compact forge]

Tell that to their lawyers

[upper snow]

The model can certainly learn how a 16:9 image is typically composed better that way than it can learn by simply having a bunch of images slammed through it at different aspect ratios.

[placid swallow]

so they just gave us a stupid model?

[upper snow]

I mean like I said, those extra conditionings were annoying to deal with too. There were downsides, and I'm mainly speculating because I haven't even used XL that much.

[desert garnet]

proper 16:9 img A serene illustration of a consensually sleeping woman, who has sought and received permission to rest in a public park. She is properly dressed in comfortable attire, including a light blanket to protect her from the grass. Her body is relaxed and positioned with dignity on the soft green grass, with the faint outline of a nearby giant corncob gently rising in the background, symbolizing nature's presence. The park is tranquil, with a soft blue sky and a hint of sunlight, creating a peaceful atmosphere. The woman's expression is one of contentment and rest, and her surroundings are depicted in a way that respects the environment and the individual's personal space.

[primal seal]

It's still a little melted, but I feel like my fingers are getting better little by little.

[lilac minnow]

prompt?

[placid swallow]

intergalactic gothic horror

[ionic bobcat]

how short

[desert garnet]

A photorealistic image depicting a young woman, dressed in modest attire, respectfully resting on a patch of grass adjacent to a large, artistic-looking sculpture of a giant corncob. The woman is wearing a long, flowing skirt and a light, loose-fitting blouse, ensuring her comfort and modesty. She lies down gently on the grass, with her body angled slightly, showing no signs of vulnerability or distress. The giant corncob sculpture is detailed, with a realistic texture and shadows that give it a three-dimensional appearance. The scene is set in a peaceful park, with soft greenery and the subtle hint of an early dawn sky, suggesting a tranquil environment. The woman's expression is serene, and her body language indicates relaxation and contentment. The composition maintains the dignity and respectfulness of the subject.

[upper snow]

I know SD1.5 has problems with prompts where a certain aspect ratio is more expected. I would assume conditioning on that helps with that, and I've seen others say they wouldn't imagine making a diffusion model without that. It could very well be the case that this isn't as much of a problem for optimal transport problems specifically (since SD3 technically isn't a diffusion model).

[placid swallow]

very

[lilac minnow]

Are you using default comfyui workflow?

[placid swallow]

yes from the hugginface

[desert garnet]

after so many tries finally something decent (dont look at legs) A realistic photograph capturing a woman who has given her informed consent and is sleeping peacefully on a well-maintained grassy area. She is dressed in comfortable sleepwear appropriate for the setting, like a nightgown or pajamas. The surrounding environment includes a large, visually distinctive corncob planted in the ground, serving as a unique but unobtrusive backdrop. The grass appears lush and soft, the woman's posture relaxed, and the overall composition reflects a tranquil and respectful atmosphere. The image would be presented in a manner that honors the subject's privacy and dignity.

[signal iron]

I think it gave them some tiny little feet on some very short legs. Almost came out well though.

[agile glen]

⚠️ Warning! ⚠️
Studies have shown that laying on any surface currently presents anomalous hazards.

Please avoid laying until further notice.
Please report any anomalous activity to your nearest [REDACTED] facility representatives.

If you or anyone you know has laid recently please [REDACTED] immediately.

[patent acorn]

oh no the perspective

[placid swallow]

too many knees for my taste, not that it's bad i'm just not into that many knees

[desert garnet]

at least its not a knee-ple

[placid swallow]

would be preferable

[hazy tartan]

She has deer legs 😭

[muted dove]

Roadkill

[desert garnet]

realistic arms A photograph of a respectfully and consensually sleeping woman, dressed in comfortable, non-restrictive clothing. She is lying down on a soft patch of grass, with her head resting against a large, artfully carved corncob sculpture. The woman's expression is serene and peaceful, and her body language suggests a deep relaxation. The surrounding area is well-maintained, with soft greenery and the sculpture positioned in a way that it complements the natural environment. The image is taken at dusk, with a warm, golden light that adds a touch of tranquility and emphasizes the harmony between the woman and the artistic installation.

[ruby marlin]

Wonderful

[muted dove]

⚠️ WARNING gruesome ⚠️ If anyone is missing their AI hands... #1072015504870494359 message

[desert garnet]

now here comes dalle (remember that sd3 is equal or even better than dalle)

[placid swallow]

okay now I know something is up, no way they trained on more images of deer laying in grass than humans

[lunar rivet]

I keep forgetting how good dalle is 😔

[sullen moss]

OpenAI acted more cleverly; they understood that it would be impossible to create a high-quality model without NSFW content, so they included petabytes of porn in their datasets. They capitalized on the quality and added filters. The guys from SAI just lobotomized their model, turning it into what we see now

[ruby marlin]

SD3 can give decent results if you try hard enough

[tall eagle]

Yep, the same reason midjourney trained with artist's names, celebs, and nsfw too

[desert garnet]

sometimes u just gotta keep tryin

[hazy tartan]

These are very good. Nice job

[patent acorn]

heck i lost a bit of faith due to 2B having not enough datasets
i dont know if i should try hard to do pixar 3d style

[keen falcon]

redditor keep shouting lol

[muted dove]

suburb home in urban biome

[cobalt moon]

SD1.5 finetunes they mean

[ruby marlin]

2nd is sd3 or something else?

[lunar rivet]

I think most artist names were completely nuked, with cascade I was still able to prompt junji ito or something and get a stylized output but sd3 just gives me a bunch of wobbly lines, it's kind of hard to prompt for any style without having an artist reference

[noble coyote]

FYI - I'm using SD3+SDXL+Face Detailer

[desert garnet]

2nd is dalle

[muted dove]

Looks like an addict

[noble coyote]

Laying is too close to a word for sexual congress - that may be why it's difficult to prompt?!

[placid swallow]

wtf is sexual congress

[lunar rivet]

resting gives the exact same result from what I saw here

[foggy cloak]

Say "going prone"

[muted dove]

No, sitting and kneeling is as bad.

[noble coyote]

In fact, a woman's product - Oil of Ulay - its name was changed decades ago for the same reason; it became "Oil of Olay"

[placid swallow]

not on her front but on her back on the grass, do not sex

[desert garnet]

i think thats where Mat Gaetz and Hunter Biden do their reunions

[noble coyote]

Prone

[ruby marlin]

I don't think the dataset has a bunch of images of people making love captioned "laying together" so that is a questionable theory

[wind basalt]

Any fine tunes yet of sd3

[barren spindle]

Most likely won't be many

[noble coyote]

Adjadcent the grass

[placid swallow]

we doing live fine tuning in here if you want to join us

[desert garnet]

yea we getting the girls lyin on grass lora

[wind basalt]

Why

[barren spindle]

"putting as much of her body in contact with grass as possible"

[lunar rivet]

sai didn't provide any code, hf code is meh, kohya doesn't care for now

[patent acorn]

really wish the half of the datasets didnt get wiped out so we can enjoy the resutls more
sd3 do lack media characters

[lunar rivet]

it will be difficult for anybody to train anything basically

[desert garnet]

A photograph capturing a properly clothed woman in a respectful manner sleeping on a grassy area adjacent to a large, imaginatively represented giant corncob. The woman is dressed in a comfortable, day-wear outfit, which includes a long-sleeved cotton blouse and denim shorts, ensuring her modesty while sleeping outdoors. Her facial expression is relaxed, depicting a state of peaceful rest. The giant corncob is illustrated as a large, oversized sculpture or art installation, possibly in a public park, to add a creative and whimsical element to the scene. The setting is serene, with a soft glow from the surrounding trees and a gentle breeze, suggesting a tranquil and safe environment.

[wind basalt]

But the weights are out no

[placid swallow]

wish me luck fine tune #992234

[signal iron]

Some work. It's just a different list of artists overall than sdxl or sd-cascade. So like Maurice Sendak, Adrian Tomine, Terry Dodson, Gil Elvgren, Deborah Azzopardi, Farel Dalrymple, and plenty others that worked in cascade also work in sd3. Many others also work. You just have to try them and see.

[hallow lion]

all this grass with ladies remidns of that scene in star wars where dear leader vader talks to his would be love about how he loves fascism and socialism and totalitarianism

[placid swallow]

omg i can't even share the image

[jolly swan]

Good luck, excited to see the results!

[cobalt moon]

Pony is also muted isnt it

[placid swallow]

it's sex

[patent acorn]

OH it can do minions

[muted dove]

"Reincarnating from cryosleep" shouldn't have any sexual tones 🤷🏻‍♂️

[noble coyote]

Rein CARN ation / CARNAL 😄

[ruby marlin]

Yes it has less knowledge of artists names than even sd1.4, on the bright side that is something that could be trained in fairly easily

[unique jungle]

Maybe making a crappy sd3 is a marketing strategy to get people talking about it.

[desert garnet]

this is her sister

[lunar rivet]

I tried a bunch from sd studies and such and most just don't make any significant difference in output

[hallow lion]

pretend they are sex demons form hell and u shld be good

[noble coyote]

Sleep = bed = sex!!! LOL

[barren spindle]

A human of the XX chromosomal composition relaxing horizontally atop grass

[noble coyote]

For laying on the ground, just say dead?!

[patent acorn]

I CANNOT GENERATE THIS

[trail saffron]

That kinda blows my mind. Straight up there are people lining up to give them money and the company is just... ignoring them?

[barren spindle]

Welp

[muted dove]

I thought "dead person" would at least give me someone laying down...or dead!!

[placid swallow]

intergalactic cryo-sleep inhabitants waking up from their slumber finetune needs some work

[sullen moss]

That's exactly the point—it shouldn't be difficult. People are tired of cat pictures and repetitive faces; that no longer impresses anyone. But creating complex conceptual images is what true progress is all about.

[patent acorn]

a minion lying on a grass

[hallow lion]

blood is on point tho for whoever cares

[barren spindle]

What about "a woman standing with her back against a wall made of grass" then we rotate the image

[cobalt moon]

the ambience slap

[verbal mica]

This model is an absolute mess, they must be trolling lol

[muted dove]

Ship came to a very abrupt halt

[prime trench]

Does SAI still possess superior versions of the 2B weights, such as those that are pre-finetuned or remove weights related to NSFW content.

[hazy tartan]

They want to retain as much control of the model as possible. They don't want high quality fine tunes without their paws all over it.

[foggy cloak]

Now that's some skillful thinking

[desert garnet]

she looks good to me

[patent acorn]

WAIT IT WORKS?

[muted dove]

They can have it 😄

[hallow lion]

have u guys tried the same promts in sdxl? maybe those are deformed too, i know anythign thats far from simple standign and looking into camera froma flat angle can get problematic fast

[patent acorn]

apparently minion lying on grass works better than woman lying on grass wtf

[cobalt moon]

oh my god

[placid swallow]

they were so concerned with sex they didn't train any images of women on their backs it seems

[barren spindle]

Women are censored

[patent acorn]

sure, gonna try shrek on grass

[cobalt moon]

3 straight notification of "SD3 is a joke"

[ruby marlin]

I agree, I find it comical how many hoops I have to jump through to get the woman lying down workflow as consistent as I got it 😂

[verbal mica]

lol

[hallow lion]

try woman squatting on snow"

[ruby marlin]

Maybe we will be able to do this with SD5

[placid swallow]

"Guys we need to sell this to apple to put in the new iphone no women sex PERIOD" - stability ai probably

[barren spindle]

SD5 won't even be trained on people, period

[ruby marlin]

Actually not a bad result 🤔

[verbal mica]

SD5 will just be random pictures of grass

[hallow lion]

seriously.. you guys are sayign deforme din the promt right?

[barren spindle]

Or it will only be trained on women laying on grass

[hallow lion]

what is it with grass then

[desert garnet]

no its just the lyin part that causes this

[barren spindle]

Try it yourself

[desert garnet]

this one works

[ruby marlin]

Not bad for 1st try anyway

[barren spindle]

Someone try "a woman standing against a wall made of grass". I'm in bed rn

[ruby marlin]

I've tried that one before

[lunar rivet]

how cascade vs sd3 feels

[red moth]

So, now things have calmed down a bit… just how bad is it?

[verbal mica]

look at the hands , i cant believe that we are back to this garnage again.

[barren spindle]

Crop it. GG

[placid swallow]

running it now

[desert garnet]

its very good

[barren spindle]

Kekw

[karmic field]

Its probably because squating is a fairly fixed pose, where as 'lying' is a million different poses

[verbal mica]

They forgot to cencor squatting, someone is about to get fired.

[patent acorn]

wait a sec it did 5 fingers a bit correct

[hallow lion]

there u can bang shrek instead

[muted dove]

SDXL

[desert garnet]

my foot hurts

[foggy cloak]

Worse grass, SD3 is clearly superior

[muted dove]

Just not mown for a while

[verbal mica]

Ofc they knew it was this bad, they are trolling the whole communtiy with this lol

[barren spindle]

What about an alien lying in the grass

[ruby marlin]

Yeah it seems to struggle with sitting on the ground but not squatting, good to know

[muted dove]

This is just to make 8B look awesome

[wind basalt]

It seems clearly better at art than humans

[verbal mica]

who wants to pay for 8b after this..

[barren spindle]

Humans don't work well, but what about aliens?

[hallow lion]

i like how this channel has turned into the Failed-diffusions channel

[placid swallow]

we may have found the loop-hole with our fine tune it's all about perspective why lay when you can stand on your back

[lunar rivet]

do you guys remember emad claiming this will be the last model ever needed? that didn't age well

[barren spindle]

Arguably better

[patent acorn]

oh no

[hallow lion]

as far as laying down this is not the model to end all models for sure

[cosmic meadow]

for a friend whose pseudonyme is "PGAZ graves", the word PGAZ made of graves.

A cinematic photo of a cemetery with graves. The word "PGAZ" is made of black marble stones, in front of the graves. There is an eerie feeling, mist all around. In the night sky, a red moon shines a warm light on dark clouds. Dead trees above the graves. Horror movie feeling.

[patent acorn]

HIS HEAD LOL

[hazy tartan]

Here we go 🤣🤣🤣

[untold valley]

Ez

[hallow lion]

they just rly didnt trainwoman laying in bed or grass to avoid people making sexy time stuff

[muted dove]

Possibly because they peaked with SDXL?

[patent acorn]

can sd3 generate sausage?

[desert garnet]

its ok aliens work perfectly

[verbal mica]

They have the 8b model , but its not for most of us anyway