#🗣｜artisan-support-feedback

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remote siren
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oh dear, blame esl 🙂

placid fjord
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I'm ESL too, so 😛

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So much for my creative output in Bot-10 if showdown is dead

viscid mantle
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how do I report the thirstposting?

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I can't seem to use emote on the messages

placid fjord
viscid mantle
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ah I have to reply then, got it

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this is the only ai bot that hasn't turned into porn babes galore, I really am gonna be superstrict vs these guys

upbeat cobalt
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it should be rmb > apps>report
but sometimes discord needs to be restarted

viscid mantle
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rmb?

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oh

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found it

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"report to staff"

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ty

upbeat cobalt
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sorry, old habits with the abbreviation

placid fjord
viscid mantle
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honestly, I usually don't mind genery sexy anime babes and such, but as an ai aficionado, I've seen so many of them everywhere that now I became kinda intolerant

upbeat cobalt
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i only mind it if they're trying to push it into nsfw territory. as bland as generic babe images are

placid fjord
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That's just it... when it's dozens and dozens and dozens of the same prompt over and over again... or my fellow East Indians who slowly work from "flirty" prompts to testing the boundaries, going from a woman wearing a shalwar-kameez to latex in the span of 20 minutes 😂

viscid mantle
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I actually don't even mind nsfw, I'm just veeery annoyed by everyone making the most generic waifus

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zero creativity

remote siren
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i always want to tell them, "try this prompt instead" but that might just enable them

placid fjord
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it's not the minding, it's the lack of thought in generating them on purposein a public server (more points if they complain about censorship if denied that)

upbeat cobalt
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i've done that a few times for regular babe posters, you get all the people asking for "photorealistic, octane render, highest of the bestested detail", and i just can't stand looking at those horrible outputs, lol

placid fjord
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🙂

remote siren
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well

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actually today when biking i had this great idea, scrape a channel and use chatgpt to rewrite all the prompts asking for women into men, then generate those

placid fjord
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simpler:MS Word, find replace "woman" with "man" 🙂

viscid mantle
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again, I'm all for people being free to do what they like, and I hate censorship.... but too much is too much

upbeat cobalt
placid fjord
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I am too.... on their own equipment or public servers that are for that purpose

upbeat cobalt
placid fjord
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way to affect the model development 🙂

upbeat cobalt
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generally, it doesn't matter what we are generating, so long as it's varied and the prompts don't make total garbage. It's mainly preference toward certain settings, doesn't affect the ability to generate certain types of things. (disclaimer, as far as i am aware)

viscid mantle
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imagine wanting to do cool stuff with these ais and all people do is porn, and not even just general porn, but specifically generic babes

placid fjord
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Hey ... @rocky vessel or @lethal haven or @north geode .... showdown is still dead

placid fjord
wind bone
lethal haven
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Will look into the Showdown issue, do continue to generate and vote still in the meantime 🙃

placid fjord
lethal haven
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@wintry siren

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placid fjord
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Can we please eject them?

narrow oyster
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showdown crashed again?

lethal haven
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Showdown may continue to have hiccups over the next couple hours, apologies in advance

hard ravine
lethal haven
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You're good 👍😊

snow tiger
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Is it allowed to add Stable Dreamer to my private server?

placid fjord
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It’s not available as far as I know

placid fjord
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Jeebus, this guy just does not get it... from exotic dancers to young girls in bikinis to makin love in restaurants... #1100170312106127410 message

viscid mantle
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lmao

remote siren
hard ravine
split prawn
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Hello

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How i write a prompt

placid fjord
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Uh, when you use "beauty" and "youth", the results get very young and kinda creepy. I was working through the lyrics to Everybody's Freeand got these unintentional results 😦 #1101178553900478464 message and #1101178553900478464 message

The pictures are not horrible but paired with the prompt text it's a titch ... off

placid fjord
rocky vessel
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I think

placid fjord
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Thanks

narrow oyster
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the showdown bot seems to get stuck every now and then and forget to post to the pantheon

placid fjord
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Pantheon is once an hour

narrow oyster
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i feel like it's happened every time i've had a good image in the showdown too, so i never get to see if i made it lol

placid fjord
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I see results from 8:10, 9:10, 10:10, 11:10

narrow oyster
placid fjord
# narrow oyster ah, got it.

I find that sometimes there's not enough competition in the showdown (like, only five or six pairs), so it makes it harder for my stuff to get in, so I spend a few minutes voting on other user's creations to up the number that get in, which may (or may not) boost how many of mine appear

narrow oyster
placid fjord
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I also vary my prompts a lot, always find it funny when someone does 100 identical prompts in a row

fallow fiber
placid fjord
fallow fiber
placid fjord
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Me too ... just to be safe

fallow fiber
twilit dew
placid fjord
prime viper
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Hi! Is it possible to add a bot to a private server? I would like to see only my prompts, how can I achieve this? Thank you very much!

coarse tusk
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so the bot should show us the whole promt (positive and negative),the style and the aspect when we generate something, most of us copy paste on mobile devices and need the copy paste text in chat not everyone has an word or txt document on an Desktop
and when we cant generate because we should vote or something our promt is gone and dont show us what we have write, so it would also be nice that the / dream command shows the last parameters we used
this would speed up promt engeniering for many of us and spare some time
pls implement something similar to my idea thanks...... ps we nearly all here to help you to get an good model, so pls give us the tools we can work efficent with

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and when we press the restyle option sometimes the bot uses the same style again, this cost, money and time when this happens in masses here on the server.

placid fjord
craggy ledge
coarse tusk
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oh ok

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@craggy ledge

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what about the restyle bug ?

craggy ledge
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Not sure, I don't usually use it

coarse tusk
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k

coarse tusk
craggy ledge
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It's on the first message the bot does, just after you do the prompt

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It'll reply to itself, so you can click on the message it replies to to get back there

lethal haven
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A little turbulence with the bot - everything should stabilize shortly 😉

distant niche
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The bot seems to have trouble with negative prompts. It's not accepting them /not considering them

placid fjord
distant niche
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that must be it, thanks

uneven sentinel
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is the photographic style new? Is it just me, that style makes the generations soooo good

upbeat cobalt
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it isn't, but it sure does!

maiden reef
viscid mantle
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My bot is stuckkkk

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Nvm

cyan moss
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BOT STUCK

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Please help

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I BEG YOU

daring summit
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Hi, is the img2img option currently usable in bots? and another question, which model are the bots currently using?

placid fjord
daring summit
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I really need it!

placid fjord
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I've seen that sometimes when the prompt has "odd" characters in it, or line breaks

daring summit
placid fjord
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It's happened to me a few times, get the cloud/poop whatever icon or just the filename in blue, but it can be salvaged by opening it in another window and saving as PNG

daring summit
placid fjord
# daring summit Unfortunately no. And regarding Dream Studio, due to the updates it has had and ...

Ah, I see. If it's any solace, AMD cards are lower priced than NVIDIA and are supposed to work better with SDXL ... under Linux anyway. Progress was even being made on the Intel ARC cards, which are even less. I sprung for an NVIDIA 3060 12GB version last year once the 1.3 beta ran out. I saw the SDXL 0.9 leak, but I'd rather wait for 1.0 to be officially released to see what it can do. Speculation is it's as early as Jul 15, but I have a soft spot for an August 5-6 release as that wolud be the one year mark from the fist beta of 1.3, which I was fortunate enough to be selected for 🙂

daring summit
# placid fjord Ah, I see. If it's any solace, AMD cards are lower priced than NVIDIA and are s...

Oh yeah. Thank you for your kindness and information. when I used the legacy version of Dream Studio for a while, I was getting very good results from the 1.5 model, which unfortunately only Stable Studio allows for this. I used it, but the new interface is very bad and has many, many bugs. Removing the clip guidance option and a few other things completely messed up the results and I don't get the previous results.

placid fjord
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You're very welcome, and I hope you find something soon, hopefully a free version. Eventually the cost of stable studio subscripton could go towards a GPU 🙂

daring summit
prime bear
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I need to set up a pc to be able to run this

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But also looking to get into 3d scanning and editing models so it needs to be a cracked out machine

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Also, I am old and no longer know what is good. My last pc is like a decade old and only used for email and printing shipping labels

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Holding off on a 3d scanner because who knows wtf this tech will do to that market

placid fjord
placid fjord
prime bear
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The 3d scanner I want costs as much as some cars, and needs some hefty processing power

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So might as well use a machine for this stuff too, I think my PC is a decade old

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I’m still very analog

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Just got into 3d printing this year but still only for prototypes

placid fjord
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My cousin uses one in her lab down in the States and friend of mine has a home-use one. The difference between a $600 and a $5000 printer is immense 🙂

prime bear
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Yeah. The digital sculptor I used to work with had access to one of the nicer formlabs machines and the prints were NICE

upbeat cobalt
hazy vector
wintry siren
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ty guysssssss

upbeat cobalt
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looks like they had been going at it for a while

prime bear
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Bot 3 is best channel

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And must never be defiled

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(Even if I did get muppet goatse once, but all I got was a picture of muppets)

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one can only take so much of “woman with nipples”

hazy vector
upbeat cobalt
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the thirst is real

prime bear
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Gonna detourn this thirst trap

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Cthukhu Détournement is real

viscid mantle
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this thing really can't do hands

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I wonder why

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I thought the hands problem was fixed

clever kindle
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Why when I use the style : anime, the negative prompt dont work ???

placid fjord
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Negative prompts are not used in styles as styles are preset parameters

clever kindle
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okay thank you

twilit dew
placid fjord
placid fjord
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Plus that user has at least a few more in there

placid fjord
clever kindle
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Why sometimes the rendering of the photos are blurry as if it were censored?

placid fjord
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It's a public beta test server, so will censor excess gore or nudity. Sometimes it's wrong

sage wadi
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Don’t finish my work

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How to fix it ?

prime bear
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In bot 3 when I redid a piece the sticker ofnwitches has boobs

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My other restyled witches do not have exposed boobs

placid fjord
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There’s a prompt in the 9:40 showdown for a woman shooting children with a pistol. Wow @rocky vessel

fallow fiber
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Not the first time, btw @lethal haven @wintry siren

wintry siren
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got em, ty!

viscid mantle
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Do commands like (this) or [this:2] work with the bot?

placid fjord
fallow fiber
placid fjord
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Yup but that message is gone I think

fallow fiber
placid fjord
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Oh, there’s more than one? that would explain why one is more … interesting than the other. Still can’t find the message though. Weird.

upbeat cobalt
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@lethal haven looks like showdown is broken again

potent latch
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it says still dreaming for 5+ minutes 😦

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nvm i got the image now lol

chilly sparrow
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@lethal haven dream command broke

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it's refusing to take requests

cursive vessel
tender olive
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So can anyone tell me with this prompt is getting blocked. /dream an orange white sports car in a cyberpunk city, 4k, concept art, depth
This is getting more and more ridiculous the more variations I try

cursive vessel
tender olive
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I basically replaced every word in there at least once

cursive vessel
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oh and sometimes when it says it didnt accept my request it will say "hold tight your still dreaming" anyway

tender olive
manic granite
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How does the restyle button work? I get "this interaction failed" every time. Does it have to be your own prompt?

chilly sparrow
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the bot's having trouble right now, it's not the filter

manic granite
tender olive
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yeah smh

chilly sparrow
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if it was the filter then it would say that your dream didn't finish

alpine hamlet
chilly sparrow
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because it detected a blacklisted word or both of the images were blurred because of nsfw

tender olive
wintry siren
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most likely experiencing some high volume and may be trying to iron out some kinks

chilly sparrow
wintry siren
alpine hamlet
# tender olive

That usually happens if Discord didn't pick it up as a slash command

tender olive
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huh

chilly sparrow
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you're not using the command properly

tender olive
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okay fair enough how do I use it

chilly sparrow
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use the bot channels

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that's where it's only allowed

tender olive
chilly sparrow
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wait, I can't use any bot commands ATM

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nvm, that was on discord's end

wintry siren
chilly sparrow
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a quick refresh and it's back

tender olive
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welp

wintry siren
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thumbsup there ya go

alpine hamlet
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Discord can struggle to keep up if you are browsing channels in a large server (like this one!)

Sometimes it needs a good ol' kick in the CTRL + R to get it working again

upbeat cobalt
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aye, i've never had the client crash this much since i've been here

static crater
alpine hamlet
static crater
spring warren
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anyone else getting significantly slower results?

static crater
spring warren
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makes sense thanks

unreal pike
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Newbie Question: How can you download higher dpi images?

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😄

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or is it not possible yet

novel breach
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"Long white hair" is censored?

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??

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Eldritch horror, too.

placid fjord
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SDXL 1 RC seems to have blurry faces

spring warren
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hands seem better more often faces bad

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showdown doesnt seem to be updating at all for me

static crater
lethal haven
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Working on it 😄

viscid mantle
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bot not working?

lethal haven
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bot is working, the showdown/pantheon game is not at the moment

viscid mantle
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my prompt's not finishing

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maybe too many people?

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ah there it is

lethal haven
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Traffic is spiking up and down, may be some delays as GPUs cold boot to accomodate demand

viscid mantle
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argh why did my favorite prompt become a cartoon

lethal haven
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try it a couple times 🙂

viscid mantle
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yep

chilly sparrow
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or add negatives that relate to art and cartoons

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but then it doesn't work all of the time for some reason

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i thought they fixed the negative prompting issues weeks ago

viscid mantle
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ooh definitely turned it into a cartoon

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new model is less aimed at photorealism?

chilly sparrow
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nah, it's just the variables are randomized

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the bot could've set the cfg scale too low, which would sometimes avoid your photorealistic details

viscid mantle
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I hope so, the prompt that gave me incredible results is now disappointing, as if it's a very different model

chilly sparrow
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that problem persisted for a while now

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hopefully the update where we can input our own settings will come very soon

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has already been teased a week ago

viscid mantle
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it's just the setting making this much difference?

chilly sparrow
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and i expect it to release shortly after SDXL gets its full release

chilly sparrow
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basically

viscid mantle
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this sucks :((((

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this is what I used to get before update:

chilly sparrow
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let me try something

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btw, sdxl 1 on the bot is only using one stage to diffuse the images

viscid mantle
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it's like a huge step back? it doesn't follow the prompt like before

chilly sparrow
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nope, again it could be the cfg scale being set too low

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along with other variables i still need to get an understanding of

viscid mantle
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bot's very different, I'm going to try another prompt I liked before

chilly sparrow
viscid mantle
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ugh

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it forgot how to do anthro birds

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I don't know what changed, but bring back the old bod

hazy vector
alpine hamlet
placid fjord
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@alpine hamlet @rocky vessel this person's been pushing boundaries for days...

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wintry siren
placid fjord
# wintry siren ty!

You're welcome. I really hope perma-banning is a option for continuous/egregious violations

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Sorry to keep you busy today...
@alpine hamlet

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alpine hamlet
placid fjord
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Yeah, understood. The output is "not bad" buy I am here with my daughter trying to show her how cool it is, and she's really not impressed with what she's seeing.

lethal haven
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Hoping we get a showdown round this go 🙃

uneven sentinel
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why does sdxl 1.0 look worse than 0.9? Has stability said anything about what they were using before, maybe 0.9 refined, now we are seeing 1.0 base?

placid fjord
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YUP

lethal haven
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Did a quick reboot, gens will be slow for a few min

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And yes these are base only, no refiner

pliant robin
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1.0 base without refined

upbeat cobalt
placid fjord
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At least they moved from 16 year old to 19 ... 🙄

placid fjord
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Whoot! looks like Showdown is running 🙂

placid fjord
placid fjord
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… and one of them made it to showdown 😡

daring summit
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SDXL 1.0 is much worse than 0.9. I liked the results of SDXL 0.9 more and I think it was much more accurate and better, especially in the results related to the style of Renaissance paintings!!!

chilly sparrow
daring summit
sullen geyser
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Do we have an expected release date for SDXL 1.0?

chilly sparrow
chilly sparrow
somber raft
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Is it possible to create threads so I'm just seeing my own images?

turbid edge
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Using the bot in a public channel is painful to follow. Can we DM it instead?

formal notch
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Im noticing that negative prompting + style isn't working

placid fjord
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Never was intended to ... styles be definition will have some parameters, so a negative prompt would impact them

formal notch
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Thank you good sir, I can see that being a design choice of the model

placid fjord
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You're welcome, I only found out myself a few days ago 🙂

sinful plaza
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Did raccoons get yeeted from the dataset, for 1.0?

sdxl 0.9 makes raccoons just fine - fully adaptable
sdxl bot right now, completely forgot about their existence
"cyberpunk raccoon standing at the top of a skyscraper in neon city" or any prompt with raccoons to confirm this

placid fjord
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Could be the NSFW filter is acting up and catching the last four letters, which is usually considered derogatory in the States. Peacock and Skyscraper weren't working earlier

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Seems like it ignores the word completely for now!

hushed flicker
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I think the voting should be like midjourney did. It made it easy to rate alot of images. Rating in discord is inconvenient, therefor less people will vote

shell frost
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How do you do the negative in the prompt?

remote siren
hushed flicker
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Webpage*

remote siren
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ah, yeah, that was my idea as well. having to make the small images big, then remember which was a and be got confusing. But there is no good way to do it in like that discord

remote coyote
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It might be cool if restyle/resize could not give the same style/size as the original. Also you could consider allowing "no style" as an option that "restyle" could also pick.

onyx scroll
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how can i prompt image that i have so i can do some editing on it?

remote siren
daring summit
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Unfortunately, the Stable Diffusion team is limiting other ways of use for those who cannot use the local mode, more and more than before! Before this, the Dream Studio system, while the first version was working well, was closed without an explanation or even a guide or even a tutorial for the new version, and for a short period of time, it was possible to use the legacy version, which has also been turned off. Even now, every new update is made and they present the new model, they either remove the possibility of using the previous models, or they present it in Dream Studio, which currently works with such a bad, buggy and difficult interface.
In fact, I and users like me who do not have the possibility to use the stable diffusion's local mode, lose all the other ways and we do not receive any explanation or guidance from the team!

remote siren
# daring summit Unfortunately, the Stable Diffusion team is limiting other ways of use for those...

I feel you. I haven't subscribed to dreamstudio since the first days, but I am sure that for most users, a hosted workflow is preferred. It's wild that stability doesn't offer an easy to use hosted ui. Clipdrop is really nice and affordable, but sadly limited, I'd think something like clipdrop with more choice (just the basic featured of a thing like https://tinybots.net/artbot) would be well received.

daring summit
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For me, the important problem is why the Stability team does not allow the permanent use of the legacy version or does not turn it on again?! When many users have problems with the new interface and receive many bugs, they can at least allow us to use the legacy version locally (as in the case of the Stable Studio project)

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Personally, I emailed and corresponded with them many times about the legacy version, but unfortunately, I did not receive any logical and convincing answer from them 🙁

crisp mauve
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anyone else having a problem with the stats command?

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lethal haven
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Sorry, use dream_stats command instead. I need to remove old stats command

crisp mauve
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sick thank you

jade glade
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Raccoons are unknown to the system it seems..

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upbeat cobalt
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nsfw filter strikes again

lethal haven
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Sorry Shrug You guys see what happens in there sometimes

placid fjord
fallow fiber
placid fjord
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When I told him about the show 3% and he boosted to 4% . I never stopped to think which one was better, 1% or 4% 🙂 Assuming 2% is a "he" 🙂

lethal talon
placid fjord
patent moon
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in sdxl its raccon

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idk how to get the attention of the team to tell them that they missspelled raccoon in their dataset

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but considering how much work it is to fix that mistake they likely wont

cyan blaze
patent moon
cyan blaze
sullen geyser
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I wish they ran more showdowns

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More pics in the pantheon for us to look at

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Seems like bot-1 ~ bot-10 have deleted all generations from before today, sad

distant niche
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I think they delete after about 90 minutes from bots 1-10

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If you want to save a prompt or output, you need to do so right away

sullen geyser
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I scrolled it yesterday, they had stuff from a week ago

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Seems like they cleared the generated images and prompts sometime earlier today

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Maybe they deleted it to coincide with the XL 1.0 beta launch?

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Oh wait, nvm you are right

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Any one know how often the showdown runs?

upbeat cobalt
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looks like it's on 15 minute runs right now. you can see the timer at the top and bottom of the bot posts there

sullen geyser
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Ah nice, thanks!

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So how exactly does the showdown work? 15 pairs of images, you vote for 1 image of each pair, and then what

upbeat cobalt
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most voted images in the showdown to go pantheon. just a fun little thing 🙂

sullen geyser
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I don't plan on participating, just curious. Since you can only vote on 1 of each pair, how is the top picture supposed to emerge?

distant niche
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Not everyone votes on every pair

sullen geyser
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I see, seems like it would be more fair if you get 1 choice out of 30 and had to pick, instead of picking within pairs

upbeat cobalt
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that's life 🙂

sullen geyser
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Also how do pictures end up in the showdown? Are they voted first in the bot-X channels?

upbeat cobalt
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the whole point is to give user feedback and preference on the settings for the model.
yeah, people do prompts in the bot channels, you vote A or B.

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the two choices usually represent different checkpoints and different configs/settings

sullen geyser
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So basically:

  1. People vote in the bot channels
  2. Top images go into showdown
  3. People vote in showdown pairs
  4. Top images go into pantheon
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Did I get the gist of that right?

upbeat cobalt
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yup

sullen geyser
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Just building my own little collection of prompts 🙂

upbeat cobalt
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oh ho ho

sullen geyser
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The bot-X stuff is a bit inappropriate

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So I was wondering maybe the show down prompts were a bit cleaner

upbeat cobalt
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how so? that's the important part

sullen geyser
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The pantheon ones are great

upbeat cobalt
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most of us complain that our best pics in a round don't end up getting shown in the showdown, lol

sullen geyser
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Ah well

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Lots of the Bot-X prompts are borderline inappropriate

upbeat cobalt
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ah yeah. definitely report people trying to get nsfw pics. right click and do apps>report, and/or copy the message link here with a brief statement

placid fjord
sullen geyser
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Thanks for explaining Biff!

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So does the winner from 2 showdowns make it into 1 pantheon?

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Actually pantheon messages are every 30 min I think

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And showdown every 15

upbeat cobalt
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yeah they changed it recently it seems

placid fjord
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Ah, you're both right, I scrolled right past the 7:10 showdown timestamp!

From what I recall two showdowns = one pantheon for time to vote. If showdown one started at 6:55 and showdown two started at 7:10, an image in round one has longer for people to vote on, but I don't think the devs weigh the round to images higher to compensate

sullen geyser
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ah well, such is life

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It is unfair

placid fjord
placid fjord
sullen geyser
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Uh, there are a few in every channel. Not explicitly nsfw, but borderline

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Just my opinion

placid fjord
sullen geyser
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Yeah Biff, that's exactly what I mean. Your prompt is an excellent example of that kind of stuff

upbeat cobalt
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i'm sure some people are not voting at all. just something i've noticed with certain types who run the same prompt for a long time

placid fjord
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Well, report what you can, tag Sunny or mark the output too. And yes, some people run the same prompt ad nauseam. I stop voting for them 🙂

distant niche
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I'll run the same prompt about 4-6 times and then change it up slightly. While waiting for the output, I hit up one of the other bot channels. But, I agree with you that most don't seem to vote at all.

upbeat cobalt
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i totally get doing more of favorites, but i really don't get it when the prompts are pretty much exhausted

placid fjord
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A few weeks ago one person ran variations of a green CD album cover for... maybe 200 images? I've been guilty of doing 10-20 of the same prompt and more for a theme, but can't imagine the need for 200.

Unless people are using it for real world work

placid fjord
upbeat cobalt
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no, i am tired of jesus walking backward.

placid fjord
#

I am glad to have missed that one

upbeat cobalt
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it's a guy in 3, i think we're on day 3 of it now for a couple hours at a time

placid fjord
#

I've seen some like that in other bots too.

Man, this 15 minute period with two minute time outs is annoying

upbeat cobalt
#

i think i agree, lose out on a lot of generation time with the cooldowns- i find myself tabbing back at all the wrong times, unless i'm actively sitting here prompting

placid fjord
#

And my crappy ones keep moving forward too 🙂

sullen geyser
upbeat cobalt
#

niiiice

placid fjord
#

Did the devs say why we moved to 15 minutes for he showdown?

placid fjord
upbeat cobalt
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heh sorry i was making some bullshit 🙂

placid fjord
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Nope, it's not you 🙂

sullen geyser
#

I made a copy of all the pantheon prompts last night, roughly 5000 total

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I wish they kept a copy of the showdown prompts

placid fjord
sullen geyser
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Not sure, I don't personnally care about the images, just the prompts

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But DiffusionDB was from 8 months ago

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So I assume SD 1.4 or something

placid fjord
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True, would be nice to see the images, but not necessary. I think there is a DB of just prompts too? Still reading through. SD2.x came out in November so may be in there at the tail end

sullen geyser
#

Their code is parsing the html output of this tool

placid fjord
sullen geyser
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Not sure, I just extracted the prompts without looking at the users

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But FYI, Google also has a private collection of 10 million images of Stable Diffusion outputs

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Where they use Stable Diffusion to make training data

placid fjord
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Hahahahaha. Effing Google

sullen geyser
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24.3 million total Stable Diffusion generations

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As they claim in that paper

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"We perform StableRep pre-training on synthetic images synthesized from texts in the CC3M (2.7
million samples) [70], CC12M (10 million) [9], or RedCaps datasets (11.6 million) [16]."

wintry siren
upbeat cobalt
distant niche
#

centaurs still don't work 😦

upbeat cobalt
#

apparently they do for anthro art

placid fjord
#

?

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What anthro art?

upbeat cobalt
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centaurs. i had poked my head in briefly, there was a conversation about them again and a few people got them by using furry/anthro art tags

placid fjord
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oh... hmmm

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnddd the GPUs are frozen just as I tried a prompt 🙂

distant niche
#

Yes, please do delete mine too

prime bear
#

I got some accidental boobs in bot 3

hearty gust
hazy vector
fallow fiber
placid fjord
static crater
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horny begone

static crater
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Parameters are being randomized to some extent which is likely causing those artifacts

patent moon
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Does anyone know if the bot is also using the refiner model ?

upbeat cobalt
#

last i heard, it is not

patent moon
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Ooo oki

void pike
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Anyone knows which sampler the bots are using rn?

placid fjord
placid fjord
winter adder
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what even are hyperbreasts

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lmao

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guess normal ones ain't cuttin' it

placid fjord
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like "full growth body" or "puffy chest", I guess bad English to X language translation

empty flicker
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something is buggy with this prompt in the bot:

prompt: evil pope francis, masterpiece painting by Peter Paul Rubens and François-André Vincent, thick paint 
aspect:3:4 
negative_prompt: frame, watermark, text, photo, burned, high contrast, smooth, plastic

when I submit that prompt, it never returns anything at all. it just doesn't do anything

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@lethal haven

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when I remove the negative prompt, it works, so the issue is somehow related to the negative prompt

winter garnet
#

Hello, I have been learning how SD models works for a while now,
I would like to know if you guys could help me the following questions:

How can I deploy a custom stable diffusion model if I want it to be used by a lot of people ( a 1000 or more) ?
So it could be a website with different users etc... A bit like midjourney but not at that big of a scale.
What are the specs required for the server. Let say how big is GPU supposed etc...
Thanks a lot.

empty flicker
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so I just see this and then no further message:

image.png
gentle crow
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yall gotta fix the faces like what is this

Joe_Biden_at_starbucks_steps-26_seed-0ts-1689250062_idx-0.png
cyan blaze
frail wasp
#

What happened to the "digital art" style on the bot

#

?

prime viper
#

Hi! Is it possible to get vertical images? How to vertical prompt?

fallow fiber
prime viper
teal girder
#

Can someone please tell me the format for adding a negative prompt to a prompt?

upbeat cobalt
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if you're on desktop, hit tab and discord should present a dropdown-thing with other options like negative

chilly sparrow
#

is it just me, or have the images gotten a bit more detailed recently

upbeat cobalt
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seems about where it was yesterday. simple prompts currently look iffy, at least for photos

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either that or you need a pile of quality words? not sure

sullen geyser
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Does the empahsis syntax "(((large))) teddy bear" work with the XL bot?

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And do we have any updated timeline on the 1.0 release? Looking forward to it

empty flicker
sullen geyser
#

Nice

placid fjord
remote siren
odd rain
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beautiful japanese girl leather pinafore dress in a science fiction dystopian world moon, planets, rheptiles a roger dean landscape" style:Comic Book Ralph McQuarrie, Ismail Inceoglu, peter mohrbacher, gustav klimt, captivating film poster, extremely detailed, intricate digital art

static crater
empty flicker
# empty flicker

^ I still see that bug. any idea why that happens @lethal haven ?

lethal haven
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Android new line copies

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I'll get a fix in, it's been a busy few weeks

empty flicker
lethal haven
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did you copy the prompt from somewhere?

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OH

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Im so so sorry

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That's different

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Can you do it again right now?

empty flicker
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ok, sure

lethal haven
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well, when you can

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😅

empty flicker
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well GPUs are taking a break now, yeah 😄

empty flicker
lethal haven
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oh that's so odd..

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Is it just certain prompts?

empty flicker
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yes

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if I remove the negative prompt, it works

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if I modify the positive prompt to just say "nothing", and keep the negative, it also works

#

so that combination of that exact positive and negative prompt seems to somehow cause the issue

#

it seems to very quickly notice that the job crashed or whatever. if I immediately try it again, I get the "you already have a job running.." message, but if I wait 5 seconds or so, I can try again

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so I assume that means within the 5 seconds the bot already registered that the job somehow crashed

shadow stag
#

Are there any possibilities that in the future we can add the stabledream bot to our own servers?

burnt goblet
#

Wow!

burnt goblet
burnt goblet
# burnt goblet Wait.

I've been seeing these prompts. They have been rendering. It's odd that you can't see them. But i have

burnt goblet
empty flicker
burnt goblet
empty flicker
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I only ever use the bot4 channel

burnt goblet
#

Also. Is it just me, or has the level of quality dropped in the outputs, since we started using a 1.0 candidate? If it's part of the training process than that's fine.
Just something i noticed.

sullen geyser
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Ah I just see a ton of people using (((something))) otherthing in the bot channels

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So I was wondering

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But good to know it doesn't do anything

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How do we report borderline nsfw prompts that made it into the showdown?

wintry siren
placid fjord
placid fjord
# wintry siren check the pin of this channel!

@sullen geyser Here's the text for the pinned message:

‼️How to: Report NSFW‼️
If you happen to come across someone a user generating nsfw, harmful material, and or server-breaking material, here are a couple of ways to report it, so that we may keep a clean and safe environment for everyone! The first two methods are done anonymously. Thank you for your help in keeping this space clean! :NekoLook:

:YellowArrowPointer: Emote the message you want to report with "⚠️". 
:YellowArrowPointer: Right click on the message-> Apps-> Report to Staff
:YellowArrowPointer: Open a ticket to our staff at  [#1010934719455707218](/guild/1002292111942635562/channel/1010934719455707218/)
placid fjord
placid fjord
remote siren
#

is there any change there will be some duplicate protection in the bot, like an error after 10 similar prompts for a user, after having rated 50 belt buckles in multiple channels and people jumping out of the water in another (which sdxl just can't do well so many faces and limbs, but if at first you don't succeed try again, again and again i suppose), it's all getting a bit much :/

muted kettle
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Trying to use some old prompts. Can I copy and paste into bot GUI? Doesn't seem to work for some reason.

empty flicker
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if you try a prompt 1000 times, that gives them great data

fallow fiber
placid fjord
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At that point it almost seems to be user obsessiveness than anything else. The random seed will ensure some variety, but the 154903rd Waifu babe is very similar to the 154901st

fallow fiber
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BTW if it was that easy they didn't need us (for creating).

coarse tusk
#

Idea to prevent that people vote for ugly pictures to sabotage the Model training or even sabotage other people because they are to competitive and just want to win Pantheons (yes some Artist are very hostile)
**

  1. **
    You cant vote until you have Generate 5 Pictures yourself, after that you can vote freely forever (for new members who just want to vote for bad things)

**2. **
Only type 1 Symbol or Number as Promt should not be possible, this means when i type just an 8 and press "enter" an warning will tell me to use at least 2 symbols.

3.
When you vote and only 45% of over 100 Votes send an Picture to Showdown you get an Timeout about 30min long. Happens this again the next Timeout is 60min (it dont goes higher). This just means when you vote over 45% the time the bad of two pictures and the showdon is proof for this you will get this timeout.After the timeout is gone you % is reset, next time you get over 45% you get 60min timeout.
Is this also gone it gets reset again.You will never get an Timeout over 60min.
You can always chose to not even Vote that has no bad consequences because there can be many ugly pictures that not even deserve an vote.

4.
When you yourself win over 5 Pantheons. You have no restrictions anymore.

5.
When your generation gets an showdown, Number 3 gets an reset too.

empty flicker
coarse tusk
upbeat cobalt
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and they'd stand out in graphs

coarse tusk
upbeat cobalt
#

they're gathering preference, so 2 people out of a hundred voting intentionally bad wouldn't affect things much

coarse tusk
#

there is an hand with 4 fingers and an nazi baby in the showdowns right now. i think they are much more than only 2

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@upbeat cobalt

upbeat cobalt
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yeah, i even voted for that hand in bot-3, it was the better image of the two. it's also a crap prompt

remote siren
#

I also imagine data gets sanitized before conclusions are drawn, so if one source of votes stands out in being in large disagreement with the average, it could disregarded as bad actor

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but between the "vote for the best of two", "vote for only the good ones", and the instructions below every set of images always hinting to pick the one that follows the prompt best, there are many different kind of votes, devs said it was all ok, so i suppose it is 🙂

upbeat cobalt
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also people will have different voting habits, what's important to us, etc
but also some things the system just can't do well, or poorly worded prompts affect the results

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also discord is terrible sometimes, i just want to complain about the up arrow behavior being totally erratic.

remote siren
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Often when i think "ok, lets vote for the remaining images in bot-x" i see many end in showdown, and same happens when i prompt in a channel, sometimes exactly none show up, sometimes 3 or more, seems voting in bot channels isn't something many people do, so even a single votes caries weight

#

i mostly copy paste from a text-editor now, as discord is so often loses your prompt :/

upbeat cobalt
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same, unless i'm still feeling out a prompt

placid fjord
remote siren
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no, that's what i mean, pantheon shows often only 5 to 10 votes for images, and it feels as if in the bot channels images get even less votes, making a single vote do a lot to move an image to showdown (unless it's all random secretly ;))

coarse tusk
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i mean it seem to be working in some way the generations from simple promts seems to be far better as 4 days before

burnt goblet
coarse tusk
burnt goblet
#

Yeah. I agree.

upbeat cobalt
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there's maybe a possibility that the devs already thought of that? maybe?

burnt goblet
#

That is what i was thinking after my innital thought. I'm sure the subject has been brought up, when developing this training system. But i swear i too have seen some very bad renders reach the Pantheon. I'm talking very distorted ones. But hopefully it's not on a large enough scale to be too disruptive.

coarse tusk
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i was in beta phase and no, i dont think they have thinked about this

upbeat cobalt
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why not?

coarse tusk
#

beta phase was on an another server and we the testers had limited votes

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and there was no such thing as this game thing here

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it makes no sense

upbeat cobalt
#

the game doesn't matter though

coarse tusk
#

they wanted to train it but restricted us

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it matters

#

gamification is what always matters to motivate people

burnt goblet
upbeat cobalt
#

oh sure, thought we were still talking data collection here

burnt goblet
#

Personally. Having more voters might help. Because on the whole i think we will have more people who legitamatly want to help, more than to potentually sabotage anything. So it would outbalance the potential for sabotaged data.

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The more people voting will get us cleaner data. Imo

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We just need a way to monitor it. (If it's proven to be a issue.)

coarse tusk
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the hostility against ai things is rising in all social media i dont think we find more people to help, there are more people who want to destroy this for sure

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sorry i read and see to much shit that i assume most people are afraid and angry when it comes to change or tech

remote siren
#

while i think for the research the weird votes have little effect (any one ever involved in working with user provided data knows to sanitize it), for the game aspect it's a little off-putting that crap shows in showdown and good ones don't, but the game's just a fun gimmick (that i hope stays in one way or another, good for inspiration, and every now and then some fun ideas show up, in the show and tell part)

coarse tusk
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there is no minimum vote cap so even things with far less votings can show up in showdown and some peolle dont vote for good generations they vote for what pictures resembles the promt

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@remote siren

burnt goblet
#

Yeah. I personally feel bad for degital artists. I love AI what what good it brings with it, but the Digital artists have still been hit pretty hard by the rise of image synthesis. Hopefully when things settle down. We can have more degital artists be paid to be part of future finetuning data sets or something? Who knows...

coarse tusk
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sinse photoshop firefly is out most artist on youtube and reddit hade gone silent @burnt goblet

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hypocrits

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the maker of retro diffusion is using free pixelart to train and even has real artist who invest in him with their art

burnt goblet
# coarse tusk hypocrits

Yh thought i noticed a simular thing. The issue is, I personally think we have bad actors on both sides that dispise each other. It creates a hate culture. Almost.

coarse tusk
#

only pros survive

burnt goblet
placid fjord
burnt goblet
calm gust
#

it might just be me but the bot seems.... worse then the SD on clip drop by a large amount. i may have just been unlucky with the backend beta models though or im missing something

remote siren
placid yacht
#

Is there a way to invite StableDreamer to another server?

lethal haven
#

There is still no refiner. Settings are still randomized. There will be an update this weekend.

chilly sparrow
sullen geyser
#

So something I'm not clear about

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For images that end up in showdown, are they voted on in the bot-X channels first? Or do images randomly end up in showdown?

lethal talon
unreal pike
#

Hi, Can anyone help me figure out how to try different models in the Bots?

fallow fiber
placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

People using automatic syntax like ((())) and (:1.5) really screwing up my collection of prompts 😆

#

Worst still is when they use unbalanced left and right parenthesis

placid fjord
upbeat cobalt
lethal talon
lethal talon
placid fjord
rocky vessel
#

Thanks for all your reports!

#

(For anyone else new to reporting, etc, please make sure you also go to apps>report! Thank you!)

cloud gale
#

has anyone managed to generate a 16:9 ratio image using the bots?

fallow fiber
wind aurora
#

yo everybody

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do you know if we can use an image as partial prompt ?

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and add text to it ?

soft sluice
wind aurora
#

i have seen people giving a internet adress

soft sluice
#

dreamstudio i think can do that

wind aurora
#

ok thx

fallow fiber
#

It would be easier to vote in the other channels when it jumped to the latest ones instead of the deleted messges. Or do they count as well? @lethal haven

sullen geyser
placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

I have regex

#

One sec

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I currently have regex to remove (((attribute))), remove (attribute:1.5), --ar something --otherthing

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To extract the prompt (assuming showdown format)

re.search("Prompt: .+?",string[0])[0][9:-1]

To turn (attribute:1.5) into (attribute)

re.sub(":\d*.?\d*)", ")",str1)

To identify incorrect aspect ratio commands in the form of --ar 4:3

--.?\ .?\

I also have a few regex to replace multiple spaces with single space, replace all right paranthesis with commas, and replace multiple commas with single comma

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I also strip all left/right paranthesis from the final prompt

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End result is a nice prompt that should work with any tool/framework

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This is using the python regex engine

placid fjord
#

So you should be able to get rid of those AUTO style (((prompts))) then, but it is annoying nonetheless. Also those giant-ass walls of text

sullen geyser
#

Now I just need to filter for NSFW prompts, because even pantheon & showdown have plenty borderline NSFW prompts

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And some people have multiple prompts tweaked just a little that make it into showdown, so need to dedupe

placid fjord
#

Yeah... like the current Pantheon leader, mostly identical prompts

sullen geyser
#

People are also terrible at spelling, they use multiple spaces, multiple commas, typos, etc.

fallow fiber
sullen geyser
#

Well, now you know you're messing up future machine learning datasets, I hope you feel better 😆

placid fjord
#

But misspelling is still better than "Picture a mystical angel gracefully soaring through a lush forest. Their radiant wings, adorned with gold and silver, illuminate the serene surroundings. Envision the angel's flowing robes mirroring the patterns of the flora and fauna. Watch as their ethereal presence brings forth blossoms with each step. Let the AI craft a captivating image that captures the magical harmony between the angel and the enchanting forest."

sullen geyser
placid fjord
#

I see that format so often I figure there must be some non-English software that is making those

sullen geyser
#

I've noticed there are two types of people. Some people use short concise prompts, other people use long blocks of text, and are almost "instructing" the bot

fallow fiber
sullen geyser
#

The code will sample the CLIP embeddings so they are "uniform" density in CLIP space, and avoid over-representations of specific concepts

upbeat cobalt
sullen geyser
#

Yeah, that's the exact kind of "instruct" prompt I see. chatGPT makes sense

placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

What is up with bot-10 and NSFW. I swear I see more in 10 than all the other channels

#

Really going to have to filter the images & prompts with a NSFW filter later

placid fjord
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It's furthest down the list? Maybe people feel "safer" there. BOT-1 has it's fair share, someone just asked for a porn star in a sari and I'm sure they'll move to "wet clothes" and then "skimpy outfit" and keep going

upbeat cobalt
sullen geyser
upbeat cobalt
#

there's the "knowledge of anatomy" bit though, dunno.

placid fjord
#

I'm sure prompts like "puffy hyperbreast chest G cup low angle POV billowing skirt" are probably accidental too 😂

sullen geyser
placid fjord
#

OK, I'm off my soapbox now 🙂

I'm gonna try to mix short prompts with two artists to see how much it messes up

fallow fiber
upbeat cobalt
#

being an ART THIEF that's what!!! jeez

upbeat cobalt
sullen geyser
fallow fiber
sullen geyser
placid fjord
upbeat cobalt
#

i seem to remember them looking fantastic, unless we're talking about different things

fallow fiber
upbeat cobalt
sullen geyser
#

For SDXL 0.9, is the canonical way for weights to use the diffusers library?

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Code only I mean

placid fjord
upbeat cobalt
#

i do, they were pretty much always fun and great

remote siren
#

mixing artists, creating weird subjects is the best 🙂 as impressive as realistic photo's are, they get old real soon to me, if i want someting real as a photo, there's.... photo's 🙂

fallow fiber
remote siren
#

but artist carry a whole lot of bias towards their subjects, curious if something like styledrop will ever work and get a style minus the bias

fallow fiber
placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

I'm unsurprised but disappointed by the current pantheon winner

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Really biasing my dataset 🙃

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At least using my naughty words list, it would be filtered out

remote siren
placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

Manifold?

placid fjord
#

That's down from 15, pretty impressive

sullen geyser
#

Oh I see

#

Debiasing my collected prompts is going to be a pain

upbeat cobalt
upbeat cobalt
sullen geyser
#

Look at the current pantheon winner

placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

The current pantheon winner would be filtered from my list of collected prompts

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Not that I'm against it, just that you don't want too many images of that kind

placid fjord
upbeat cobalt
#

anyway, i feel like i'm starting to complain about pantheon again, which wasn't my intent here 🙂 later!

placid fjord
placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

Yeah, I agree. But having tons of images of that "style" would get people up in arms about gender equality & bias

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And a certain degree of sensitivity is needed

#

A quick analysis of the prompts that made it into showdown/pantheon. The ratio of women:men is roughly 7:3. While in online images (Open Images V7), men outnumber women by like 3:2

placid fjord
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People like making images of beautiful people

sullen geyser
#

You mean the internet is horny

placid fjord
#

Mostly that 🙂 But also, to your point about gender bias and sensitivity: my anecdotal evidence tells me that a gorgeous woman will be noted and complimented by everyone, but a rugged handsome man will only be openly commented on by a little more than half the population.

tepid escarp
#

how to process my own images here? Any one can help?

hard ravine
remote siren
#

Unless you mean how do i create images, then just go to a bot channel, type /dream press tab, you'll now get to enter the prompt field, and give a prompt/description, look at pantheon for an idea what kind of prompt works

fallow fiber
rocky vessel
sullen geyser
#

aron5 really pushing it with the prompts

placid fjord
#

"Starry night" prompts are heavily weighted to the painting, and not to the topic

placid fjord
sullen geyser
chilly sparrow
sullen geyser
#

Oh wow, these people aren't even subtle

chilly sparrow
#

I was thinking of a system where if someone mentions a word or phrase related to sexual content then it would auto-kick/ban them, but we all know those systems come with some caveats of false moderation

sullen geyser
chilly sparrow
#

well at least a wannabe

sullen geyser
fallow fiber
#

Is the apps report function gone?

sullen geyser
#

I've reported them all

fallow fiber
#

I mean I don't see it anymore

rocky vessel
#

Neither. Do. I.

fallow fiber
rocky vessel
#

You can close the app/relog.

fallow fiber
rocky vessel
#

If anything, you can use the ⚠️ emoji to report

placid fjord
#

Gosh darn, it' s like superbad today

placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

Emoji doesn't work if the images are generated

fallow fiber
#

I think those people should be banned immediately

placid fjord
fallow fiber
placid fjord
sullen geyser
#

Yeah

placid fjord
wintry siren
placid fjord
fallow fiber
placid fjord
wintry siren
#

Lets use my message as an example.

sullen geyser
#

Yeah, I can't emote on the image message either

#

Doesn't work in the bot channels for me

rocky vessel
wintry siren
#

Hold down my message and emote it with ⚠️

rocky vessel
#

(I was just making a tutorial haha)

placid fjord
#

Each time I do, it disappears... in Windows anyway. Off to go grocery shopping, back in a bit

sullen geyser
#

Sadly, it oesn't work for me in the bot channel

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Only app report works

wintry siren
wintry siren
#

it's meant to disappear to keep you anonymous when reporting

sullen geyser
#

I mean, I can't emote on anything in the Browser on Windows in the bot channels

#

Only app report works in those

fallow fiber
#

There's no 'add reaction' in the bot channels for me either

wintry siren
#

changing perms now

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should work

sullen geyser
#

Works now, reported a random image

#

Please ignore the report

wintry siren
#

great ^^ i'm applying this to all channels now, so should work as intended

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thanks guys

sullen geyser
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I've reported most of ibrahim_statistician images, you can see how he edges from borderline child content towards more and more inappropriate content

wintry siren
umbral narwhal
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how to prevent a seed being automatically used in next prompts?

chilly sparrow
umbral narwhal
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oh ok at least its good to know, thanks

formal bane
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guys can somebody guide me how to set the aditional parameters in a dream prompt???

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for example the sytle parameter??? is it like midjourney with --s ?????

sullen geyser
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Ah well, the transparent bikini photo is gone now

tender thistle
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Is there any supported syntax for the bot? I see people using parenthesis and weights. I assume those don't work, so the bot should probably tell the user to remove them. Not sure if that's necessarily hurting things.

lunar olive
prime bear
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I’m getting weird boobs on 3

rocky vessel
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Thanks; just keep reporting!

tough onyx
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Please increase the token numbers

sullen geyser
hazy vector
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What’s the deal with using image-urls in their promts?

sullen geyser
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Not sure, but it doesn't seem to work

cyan blaze
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it doesn't

sullen geyser
placid fjord
sullen geyser
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hmm, this one actually looks decent. It even got the long -> short wavelength (red -> green -> blue -> violet) right

placid fjord
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Probably luck of the draw

sullen geyser
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what's up with people using prompts of the style 1X, like 1girl

placid fjord
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Comes from an Asian image database

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Also: it's probably very NSFW

sullen geyser
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oh wow I had no idea, I thought it was some AUTO style prompt

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Probably something to filter for nsfw wise

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How the hell do you even know this

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Any other prompts/words that I should know about that are potentially NSFW and not well known?

placid fjord
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I was in phase one of SD1.1 and reading a lot of the discussions and especially when 1.5 came out and people got to do their own models. Huge discussions in the SD2.1 channel too

I remember back before SD came out too, there was some discussion about prompting. You could talk to Katherine Crowson on twitter (the one behind much of the algorithms at the beginning) and she would respond within an hour). I also remember starting off with the same number of Instagram followers as some of the people who are now on StabilityAI's team... I've tripled my count to ~300 and donr dick-all but I know one person who now sells art for five figures 🙂

Don't dismiss Danbooru stuff completely, it's supposed to be quite well tagged, which is why people used it

coarse tusk
placid fjord
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Fair enough, will delete

chilly sparrow
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i think some updates to the bot are happening rn

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refiner inclusion maybe?

coarse tusk
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i mean some kids are here

fallow fiber
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troubles with the bot?
lots of dreams don't finish @lethal haven

sullen geyser
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I appreciate it, will filter the nasty tags from the prompts

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I wonder how much it costs them per image

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Must be a fraction of a cent

placid fjord
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Or... updating? One of the devs had said there may be an update this weekend

chilly sparrow
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yeah

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and 2% is online, so we probably know what that means when the bot breaks down

sullen geyser
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Isn't SD XL 1.0 weight release like Tuesday or something

chilly sparrow
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yes

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afaik

sullen geyser
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Wonder if they'll just release the default weights, or if they will release the style weights as well (cinematic, anime, fantasy etc)

chilly sparrow
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nevermind, no changes after all

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just some issues on the backend

sullen geyser
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showdown bot is dead as well

upbeat cobalt
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i think we're all guessing they're keeping that as a secret sauce for their products. i think they're just prompts anyhow (g'morning btw)

sullen geyser
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Could be prompts, but I'd guess they are individual models/fine tunes

placid fjord
chilly sparrow
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no, i'm just guessing

sullen geyser
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Because often times, you can run prompts with the default bot, but trying to use cinematic/anime will result in the bot telling you it is out of capacity

upbeat cobalt
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i've never seen that

sullen geyser
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So I'd guess the styles are individual models

coarse tusk
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some bots are broken right now i think an update is in the making

chilly sparrow
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@lethal haven what's up with the bot

placid fjord
upbeat cobalt
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also SD has a fun thing where if you specify cameras, and your prompt wants to add objects to a scene, there's a chance that the objects will be a camera, or cameras incorporated into object shapes

placid fjord
sullen geyser
upbeat cobalt
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that's just cooldown

sullen geyser
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Nah

placid fjord
sullen geyser
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I have fewer than 30 generations over 4 days

placid fjord
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how odd

sullen geyser
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Only happens if you use the individual styles, never the default style

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So I'd guess they are running fewer models with the individual styles

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And most of their compute is on the default model

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Thus I don't think the "cinematic/anime" styles are just an embedding or prompt, must be different finetunes of a model

upbeat cobalt
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i guess they could be lora, i've never actually tried to prompt for origami by hand

placid fjord
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It was timing out quote a bit on my longer prompts a few days ago, and definitely takes longer for complex/obscure prompts

sullen geyser
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Yeah I think LoRA or similar approaches are likely for the different styles

coarse tusk
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i think before 1.0 public there will be an open beta here of 1.0 to fix some things or test some new things out

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@upbeat cobalt

placid fjord
sullen geyser
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Yeah, I've noticed something thou with the styles. They seem :incapable: of generating certain things

placid fjord
sullen geyser
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Like with the anime style, basically impossible to generate scary stuff

coarse tusk
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because most mods and admins right now are also very abzent

placid fjord
sullen geyser
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lol

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post it in show and tell

coarse tusk
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@placid fjord no not really it was said, that new futures come in to make generating more specific with new commands

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i dont think an untested totally new feature comes at lanch day

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and i dont think the bots can work in middle of an software update

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just my logic brain

sullen geyser
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Oh damn, I forgot the bots are dead

upbeat cobalt
spring bloom
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Is the bot broken?

sullen geyser
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well once the bots are backonline, tag me in the image @placid fjord

lethal haven
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Going to go down for a bit

coarse tusk
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called it

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XD

prime bear
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Was just about to ask

placid fjord
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I have 0.9 local, so will try that

upbeat cobalt
coarse tusk
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hm hm

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welcome all in the maintenance wait room XD

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this can be need more than an hour

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i go gaming

brazen sphinx
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Hey there ! Can we invite this bot into our own discord serv right now ?

coarse tusk
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?

brazen sphinx
coarse tusk
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??? i was not agressive i was logical. you shouldnt read other people messeges like they scream at you, maybe they sound nicer in your head than

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mirrowing the bot would be possible but not making your own images in your own discord, this would cost ressources and dont train the model

hazy vector
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Bot is back up

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coarse tusk
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@placid fjord its up again

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@brazen sphinx AND devs here ban people who make nsfw stuff with the bot because its interfere the training that should not have this contend in it , outsourcing the bot to other discords would make the situation uncontrollable. so there are many logical reasons for not doing it BUT i think mirror the bot so your discord can see specific channel post in your server could be possible

brazen sphinx
coarse tusk
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? back paddle from what ?

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@brazen sphinx

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proof that i was aggressive, you cant.

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but i can proof now how childish you acting when something is said that isnt liked by your worldview

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have a nice day

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i dont talk to you anymore

wintry siren
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This all just seems to be tone miscommunication

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Let's move along

sullen geyser
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Showdown bot is still down?

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nvm, showdown bot is up again

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Sweet

placid fjord
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@wintry siren You can probably change the bot status to green, eh?

twilit aurora
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I'm new here, do you get notified for getting into showdown, pantheon, etc?

sullen geyser
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yes

placid fjord
coarse tusk
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@woven plinth have seen your star use ((symetric)) as positive promt this will make it more focus on making it symetric the () symbols do that more () so more focus on that, and in negative use asymetric,

cyan blaze
coarse tusk
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he does

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i use them all the time

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also the fusion command |

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like cat|fox

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weight with numbers also works

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i have won some pantheons because nearly no onehere uses weights or fusion commands @cyan blaze

cyan blaze
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I've not seen any evidence that they work. | could definitely just appear to work without any special parsing

coarse tusk
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i made thousands of pics here and test it out

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it works

sullen geyser
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I'm stripping all emphasis and weight values when I collect the prompts using regex

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Annoying when people don't use symmetric parenthesis

coarse tusk
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???

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@sullen geyser explain pls english is not my native tounge

cyan blaze
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ok, (x:weight) appears to work, the others are much harder to test

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"dog|cat" gives you pretty much the same as "dog cat", for instance

coarse tusk
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ah you mean fintuning weight like (fox:1.2) i never every fully understand how they work

cyan blaze
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one of my dogcat tests got into showdown 😛

coarse tusk
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oh i see (dog:0.01) (cat:1.5)

cyan blaze
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yeah, that works more or less like it does in Comfy

coarse tusk
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so question when i add more text must it look like this (dog:0.01) (cat:1.5),summer,field, ?

cyan blaze
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but pretty sure the | is superstition, and "cat fox" works the same as "cat|fox"

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well, yes

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if you don't want any of the weights applied to the additional text too

coarse tusk
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as long there is no , between them it doesnt generate two animals right ?

cyan blaze
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that's not a hard and fast rule

coarse tusk
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(dog:0.01), (cat:1.5) would make two animals right ?

cyan blaze
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it doesn't usually

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or let me test

coarse tusk
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k

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afk for an moment

cyan blaze
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ok, the comma may be increasing the chance of getting two animals

coarse tusk
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so what about the precition ? how low and heigh goes it ?

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0.01-9.9 ?

cyan blaze
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you don't want to go much higher than 1.5 probably

coarse tusk
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ok

cyan blaze
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although I'm not sure exactly how the bot does it, like A1111 or like Comfy

coarse tusk
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we can test it

cyan blaze
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not really

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it's impossible to compare when you can't control the seed

coarse tusk
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because all other parameters are more or less random ?

cyan blaze
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yeah, especially the seed

coarse tusk
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kk

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so i made from this Superman|(GhostRider),detailed, dark atmosphere,(full body), Epic Composition, 32k, De-Noise,(symmetry),(balance),((color harmony)),(burned|cape),(undead),fire|eyes,chains,burning,(leather),Reaper,((drawn by Yoji Shinkawa))

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this (Superman:0.6)(GhostRider:1.5),detailed, dark atmosphere,(full body:1.0), Epic Composition, 32k, De-Noise,(symmetry:0.4),(balance:0.3),(color harmony:0.5),(burned:0.5)(cape:0.6),(undead:0.5),(fire:0.3)(eyes:0.6),chains,burning,(leather:0.8),Reaper,(drawn by Yoji Shinkawa:1.0)

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but the promt is now to long

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thats the bad thing about the number method

cyan blaze
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but if it actually parsed them as weights, they would not count towards the token budget

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so I'm confused

coarse tusk
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???

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ah yes

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i think they count every symbol

cyan blaze
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which is not how weights work

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so either the "prompt too long" check is done wrong, or it doesn't actually parse as weights (and it somehow appears to work a little anyway)

coarse tusk
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i know

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maybe we ask an dev ?

cyan blaze
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I tested with {dog:0.01} {cat:1.5} locally, and that worked just like "dog cat"

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so I would expect the (:0.01) and (:1.5) to just be noise to the model if it doesn't parse them as weights

coarse tusk
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so it doesnt work ?

cyan blaze
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well, it did seem to work when I tested, but could just be coincidence

coarse tusk
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so back to the old system

cyan blaze
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if (x:0.01) doesn't work, I'm pretty sure (x) or ((x)) doesn't either

coarse tusk
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() and (()) work i tested it

cyan blaze
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well, how did you test it, it's very hard

coarse tusk
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background in negative promt

cyan blaze
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(()) is supposed to be a weight of 1.21

coarse tusk
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sometime background comes anyway

cyan blaze
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in A1111

coarse tusk
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(((background))) it does never make one

cyan blaze
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A1111 doesn't even have triple-(

coarse tusk
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hm hm

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this discord need an weight gide

cyan blaze
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unless there are no weights

coarse tusk
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we dont even have an noob tutorial how to make anything here in discord

cyan blaze
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there's a pinned message in every bot channel

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it's not meant to bias you towards specific prompt structures or anything, they want data on all kinds of prompts

coarse tusk
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i go to bed

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n8

placid fjord
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@rocky vessel After about the 100th request from this guy for an exotic dancer (portrait at least...), it's getting a bit tiresome #1101178553900478464 message

rocky vessel
sullen geyser
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bot-4 I mean

fallow fiber
lethal talon
twilit aurora
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"leric" in showdown has generated an NSFW pic @lethal talon

placid fjord
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OK, mindsoulmeditations is also asking for nude women in bondage. #1101178378452750447 message @rocky vessel and they've made it into the showdown 😦

hazy vector
coarse tusk
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@lethal haven ok we need to know now does the weight system works right now or not ? and when yes what kind of system is used and when no, when will it work ?

hard ravine
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i hope Stability makes a SDXXXL model

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100GB model that needs 24GB vram or more. maybe then hands will be solved

coarse tusk
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there are civ community models who0 make perfect hands and are based on 1.5

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@hard ravine

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SDXL is in training and performs better than SD 2.1 and SD 2.1 is over 4 months out

hard ravine
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i was joking, everything i said is clearly over the top

coarse tusk
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ok @hard ravine

frail merlin
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How can I easily find the graph I generated?

twilit aurora
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DEV.IL405 in #1101178553900478464 has been generating oversexualized women over and over again @rocky vessel

coarse tusk
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?

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i am not an mod sorry

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@twilit aurora

twilit aurora
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@coarse tusk Who are the mods?

coarse tusk
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@twilit aurora

twilit aurora
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Thank you. I will send a ticket @coarse tusk

coarse tusk
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no problem

upbeat cobalt
coarse tusk
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@lunar pelican for your emblem with an "M"
test out symmetric as positive promt when you make an emblem,patch or sign. and "Dodecagon border" when it should be an symmetric sharp edged object and "circle border" for more even round border .

upbeat cobalt
wintry siren
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the user has been actioned against, ty ^^

long juniper
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Question, is there prompt weights for the bot?

turbid mantle
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looks like fantasy art preset deletes negative prompt is that supposed to happen?

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also can't find "photographic" in style list but it shows up if i type it

cyan blaze
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you can't use negative prompt with any style as far as I know

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presumably because the styles make use of the negative prompt

sullen geyser
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So I just did a tabulation of all images that made it into showdown for the past 5 days

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Of the 13233 unique prompts, 12301 were SFW, so roughly 7% were NSFW