🍥｜anime

[toxic lotus]

daammnn

neat

[dusky linden]

dmd lmao

[toxic lotus]

sweeetttt

[dusky linden]

so instead of kafkha, i replaced it with Neko arc

doridoridori

[toxic lotus]

theyre autistic af about chaarcter/style loras

i love it

just like me fr

[toxic lotus]

wonder how they made theirs tho

hmmm

[sharp imp]

hmmm

[dusky linden]

hmm is automatic post processing cheating in image gen?

[dusky linden]

when i manually borked my comfy rig i could use automated LUTS but the new nightly one broke it

[toxic lotus]

[sharp imp]

[dusky linden]

Base

LUT applied

[sharp imp]

better colors

[dusky linden]

yeah, sometimes a depth map

[toxic lotus]

colors are better but

not cheating

basically like using a vae

[sharp imp]

^^^

i would say anything that happens pre gen or during, like controlnet etc isnt cheating, but if you automated like...photoshop or somethin, then maybe thats a grey area

[toxic lotus]

i think face closeups are cheating

thats about it

[sharp imp]

XD

[toxic lotus]

tho

wdym automated photoshop

[dusky linden]

oh like certain steps in comfy to do like background removal, put on different background etc right?

[keen hollow]

evenin'

[toxic lotus]

oohhh

ill never trust ai to do my photoshop stuff

currently

im still better than ai

[sharp imp]

i mean if you built a workflow that automatically used AI to detect artifacts or somethin, had it inpaint and correct, with no interaction from you, that would be cheating me thinks

[dusky linden]

ehe

[toxic lotus]

if i need to photoshop an ai image

[dusky linden]

working on it still

[toxic lotus]

i plug in my drawing tablet

hope it fucking works

then manually draw/or remove backgrounds/artifacts

[sharp imp]

buuuuuutttt who cares right, its AI making the image from our prompt, so shouldnt it also fix its fuck up lol

[fickle oyster]

krita SD plugin > everything

[toxic lotus]

ONG

[toxic lotus]

ive tried that but

i always go back to forge

[dusky linden]

forge works but swarm is peak

i should finish that powerpoint presentation

[toxic lotus]

forge is peak

youre a psychopath

[sharp imp]

Or have an AI do it for you. Work smarter not harder

[dusky linden]

oh yeah i got ai to do the contents

[toxic lotus]

[dusky linden]

local llm

[sharp imp]

now your cookin

[dusky linden]

just need to actually make / design it

[sharp imp]

yeah AI sucks at the execution of that step. always outta order and shit...

[dusky linden]

for some reason

zenia doesnt like me shilling swarm

while shes on it rn too 👀

[sharp imp]

le gasp

[dusky linden]

#exposed

[sharp imp]

she shunned me for using A1111

[dusky linden]

oh ill shun you for that too

[sharp imp]

be still my beating heart

[toxic lotus]

i do it again

a1111 is ass

obsolete

trash

[sharp imp]

im so laaaazzyyyyy tho...i dont wanna swap to forge...unless i can just copy my stable diffusion folders into it

[toxic lotus]

unoptimized

[dusky linden]

the models and loras?

[toxic lotus]

you can

[dusky linden]

yes?

[sharp imp]

oh

[toxic lotus]

its the exact same as a1111

[sharp imp]

oh my

[toxic lotus]

exact

same

[dusky linden]

forge is even a fork of a1111 lol

[fickle oyster]

what forge?

[toxic lotus]

just

faster

[fickle oyster]

I'm stoned and just walking back in

[sharp imp]

hrmmm

[fickle oyster]

yeah forge is a1111 but way faster

[toxic lotus]

im smoking a spliff and cig rn

dual wielding

speed running lung cancer

[dusky linden]

im trying to get them to use swarm instead but zenia is preventing it

[fickle oyster]

I can't smoke anything, wife is preggers!

[toxic lotus]

tragiiccc

ill smoke for you

[dusky linden]

o congrats

[fickle oyster]

Thank you!

[toxic lotus]

@sharp imp this ^

[fickle oyster]

so I'm using tincture because I also am avoiding sugar so it's interesting

[toxic lotus]

no clue what that is 🙏

[fickle oyster]

Drops

like in a vial

and you drop them in your eye and you get stoned

[dusky linden]

hmm idk if we can get thc oil here

[fickle oyster]

*under the tongue

[dusky linden]

hmmm

[toxic lotus]

oh goooddd

reminds me of that free sample i got at a dispensary

100 mg liquid thc

[dusky linden]

guess ill find out once i actually walk into the "coffee shop"

[toxic lotus]

i OD'd ngl

💀

wildest trip of my LIFE

10/10 would do and regret again

i slept so gooooooodddd

[keen hollow]

Back to SwarmUI tonight.

[dusky linden]

hell yeah

[keen hollow]

Was trying Invoke for a while.

not sure which I like more yet

[dusky linden]

it just doesnt hit the spot huh

swarm is still king imo

[toxic lotus]

lies

slander

blasphemy

[keen hollow]

There's some stuff that's a little bit more difficult than it needs to be in Invoke.

but it's definitely got the polish

the img2img and inpainting is certainly easier

the lack of auto segmentation right in the prompting was annoying

and the file management is kinda weird

and either will do images of burger consumption

[sharp imp]

in the process of getting forge....gonna see how much of a pain it is to get all my checkpoints etc. should just have to set a path for it to share right?

[toxic lotus]

should just be as simple as copy and pasting your files into forge ngl

the important ones

like extensions, outputs, models

[sharp imp]

ahhhh....i see

but then its gonna take twice as much space correct?

unless i delete A1111

[keen hollow]

you can configure them to share a model folder

[lyric zealot]

are we talking forge or reforge?

[keen hollow]

forge has sketchy obfuscated code, so good luck with that

[sharp imp]

forge

XD

[lyric zealot]

@echo off

set PYTHON=
set GIT=
set VENV_DIR=
set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=

@REM Uncomment following code to reference an existing A1111 checkout.
set A1111_HOME="D:\Downloads\A1111 Web UI NEW\stable-diffusion-webui"
@REM
@REM set VENV_DIR=%A1111_HOME%/venv
set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=%COMMANDLINE_ARGS% ^
  --ckpt-dir C:/Users/User/OneDrive/Desktop/Stable_Diffusion_Models ^
  --hypernetwork-dir %A1111_HOME%/models/hypernetworks ^
  --embeddings-dir %A1111_HOME%/embeddings ^
  --lora-dir %A1111_HOME%/models/Lora^
  --vae-dir %A1111_HOME%/models/VAE^
  --realesrgan-models-path %A1111_HOME%/models/RealESRGAN^
  --esrgan-models-path %A1111_HOME%/models/ESRGAN^
  --no-gradio-queue^
  --cuda-stream^
  --pin-shared-memory^
  --cuda-malloc^
  --api^
  --listen^
  --enable-insecure-extension-access

call webui.bat

you can do something like this for your webui-user.bat

use your own flag tho

[keen hollow]

How come when I show up, everyone disappears?

No one likes Tifas. 😦

[lyric zealot]

it's probably just timezone issue

[sharp imp]

Still here, just doin fuck shit to get everything copied over, moving old webui stuff to the 4tb external, and setting up output path.

[keen hollow]

I may pick up another 4TB NVMe

[sharp imp]

I need to, but right now im just storing outputs and checkpoints im not using regularly on an external SSD.

[dusky linden]

Yeah, 3:43am for me

And i show up when summoned usually

[keen hollow]

wow that's alte

also, late

[lyric zealot]

stored

[dusky linden]

Hehe yeah and I've been busy so i haven't been genning a lot on my own

[lyric zealot]

[sharp imp]

Now thats dope

[lyric zealot]

that will definitely get deleted if the server was how it used to be, now i don't know

[sharp imp]

interesting. its definitely suggestive, dunno if it qualifies as nsfw (im basing this off of what a gen like SeaArt AI would allow, ive seen worse for sure there)

[lyric zealot]

not really talking about your gen, but this instead #🍥｜anime message

but well, if it's like before, your gen would also likely gets deleted, but then again, it's a lot more lax now tho

[fickle oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-the-rules-iasip-gif-27514763

[sharp imp]

I see. Ive intentionally removed the nsfw wildcards from my outfits, and gave them their own wildcard folder to avoid anything blatant. But if anything i post violates, by all means remove it.

[dusky linden]

Its s lot more lax because other then #🤝｜tech-support this is the only channel with any resemblance of a community

[sharp imp]

id post in the other channels, but i only really make anime atm XD

[dusky linden]

Other channels don't get as much traffic ngl

[sharp imp]

fair enough

[lyric zealot]

and also the fact that not much mods moderate here

[dusky linden]

Theres mods? I thought it was a 2 man show of fruit & maxfield lmao

[lyric zealot]

yup, just them and community guides i guess. Last time, i don't think the community guide can do anymodding, but now appears that they can

[sharp imp]

love how vibrant the colors are in those.

[lyric zealot]

it's just a combination of artist tags, and so you can easily recreate it

[lyric zealot]

i got wildcard working, but not using what you linked, but using dynamic prompting instead

maybe you linked the wrong one?

[toxic lotus]

wdym

what uhh

[toxic lotus]

whatd i link wrong

😅

[lyric zealot]

like im using this instead for wildcard

[sharp imp]

lol that satanic wildcard prompt

[toxic lotus]

oohhhh

hmmm maybe?

[toxic lotus]

its not that bad

it works i swear

[sharp imp]

nah its not

im gonna let it run a batch of 50 or so images while i sleep, and see what i get in the morning lol

[toxic lotus]

lmaooo

bet bet

https://github.com/adieyal/sd-dynamic-prompts

@lyric zealot this one?

[sharp imp]

i got forge up and running, and copied all my stuff over, then sent the old webui to my external to chill so it aint eating space

[toxic lotus]

real

i use stability matrix and uhh

2 external drives to have space

[lyric zealot]

yup yup, this works for my reforge ui

[toxic lotus]

bet

ill dm them

and have them try it

[lyric zealot]

[toxic lotus]

[toxic lotus]

judge me not 🙏

for i am insane

thats one im working on rn

just give me a few days

itll match my forge one

[toxic lotus]

okay now make him beat the f out of the burger

batman vs burger

[fickle oyster]

batman, covered nipples, destroying burger, huge balls

[toxic lotus]

[dusky linden]

Balls?

[dusky linden]

Make batman love the burger

[toxic lotus]

nah im adding more to the prompt

testing it rn

[sharp imp]

the burger returnnnssssss

[fickle oyster]

just give me the weeds pleases

[toxic lotus]

i gotchuu

[sharp imp]

doin the glitch eyes, thats a fun one

[lyric zealot]

[lyric zealot]

horror

even more horror

nightmare fuel

what do you mean?

[sharp imp]

oh lawd she got so much neck

[twilit portal]

booba

[gleaming flame]

testing kiwimix...

[keen hollow]

This one is a cool style

[final drift]

What could be the good token for this type of mouth ? Pouting ?

[dusky linden]

Yeah thats pouting

Puffed cheeks could also help

[final drift]

Realistic models don't understand pouting and produce bigger lips instead 😅

[dusky linden]

Hmm because it's hard to translate cartoon features to real

[final drift]

I try, when i'm bored !

[fickle oyster]

FUNZIES

[near elbow]

yes this is strange

[wispy canopy]

@fickle oyster enough quality upscale? ^^

[fickle oyster]

:3 Hey how are you!

[wispy canopy]

"fine" -> if having a slight crack in the between vertebrae discs can be ignored (which i can't), dunno the exact term

not full hernia, but not quite ok either

[fickle oyster]

Oh that fucking sucks... You getting any referred nerve pain comorbidities?

Also, I got banned from Civ

[wispy canopy]

yeah, i read about it in your thread

you naughty boy

[fickle oyster]

Yeahhhhh he brought my future fatherhood into it and that was completely uncalled for.

so I flipped and he kept doing DM drivebys and blocks

like 4 times.

I knew him pretty well, well enough to send him money over the net.

[wispy canopy]

i suppose you mean demian?

[fickle oyster]

Zed

[wispy canopy]

ah, zed

[fickle oyster]

Demian was also in that server

[wispy canopy]

never even encountered the dude

i think

[fickle oyster]

yeah zedtheeviltaco.

[wispy canopy]

perhaps exchanged a remark or two? but that's about it

[fickle oyster]

Yeah. Didn't realize he'd be such a turd.

But hey, let's not let anything spill over into yet another server :3.

[wispy canopy]

i was about to mention that

[fickle oyster]

[wispy canopy]

good to see you here man

else i'd have been tempted to dm u

😄

[fickle oyster]

DMs are always open

I'm planning on making a server for you guys

It's in progress

[sharp imp]

No one came to his cookout

Or hers, pretty androgynous. Curse you illustrioussssss

@toxic lotus i had chatgpt deconstruct,or rather reverse engineer your scary prompt, and create another one that wont veer off into nsfw territory unexpectedly, and included my database of wildcards with yours and some of the outputs are hilarious.

[toxic lotus]

LMAOOOOO let me see that shit 👀

[sharp imp]

Well the one above was one of them. Im batch generating now. Or did you mean the prompt?

[toxic lotus]

Both

[sharp imp]

"""Smooth Quality,lazypos,lazynsfw,lora:Eyes_Lora_Pony_Perfect_eyes:0.7,lora:TrendCraft_The_Peoples_Style_Detailer-v1.0A-3_13_2025-illustrious,(masterpiece, absurdres, amazing quality, very awa, best quality, ultra-detailed, very aesthetic),{masterpiece, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, 1girl, solo, female, {female_hair|hair_styles_long|hair_styles_short}, {hair_color|hair_color_duo}, bangs, {eye_color|eyes_iris_colors}, eyes_pupils, breast_size, { female_clothing_general, {female_clothing_cyberpunk|female_clothing_gothic|female_clothing_fantasy}, {bottomwear|skirts|legwear_main}, pose_casual, pose_dynamic }, {animal_traits|ears_other|tail_types_mammals|tail_types_supernatural}, {accessories|makeup|added_details_character}, {urban_background|fantasy_background|sci-fi_background|interior_background|natural_background|abstract_background}, {angle|anime_camera_techniques}, {lighting|special_effects} | masterpiece, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, 1boy, solo, male, {male_hair|hair_styles_medium|hair_styles_short}, {hair_color|hair_color_duo}, bangs, {eye_color|eyes_iris_colors}, eyes_pupils, { male_clothing_general, {male_clothing_cyberpunk|male_clothing_gothic|male_clothing_fantasy}, {bottomwear|legwear_main}, pose_casual, pose_dynamic }, {animal_traits|ears_other|tail_types_mammals|tail_types_supernatural}, {accessories|makeup|added_details_character}, {urban_background|fantasy_background|sci-fi_background|interior_background|natural_background|abstract_background}, {angle|anime_camera_techniques}, {lighting|special_effects} | masterpiece, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, anime_character, solo, {female_clothing_general|female_clothing_cyberpunk|female_clothing_fantasy}, {urban_background|fantasy_background|abstract_background_light|interior_background}, {angle|camera_unique}, {special_effects|added_details_character|mood} },"""

so theres the prompt lol

it still took away the __ : /

i hate discord, but you get the idea. i could probably just share a .txt file of it and that would be easier

aight its gettin weirder

[lyric zealot]

You have to use tilda, or the key beside your 1 key.

[dusky linden]

Theres never enough ramlethal images ong

[sharp imp]

~~?

[lyric zealot]

Wait no, it’s grave key

I mixed them up

[sharp imp]

ive been betrayed

[lyric zealot]

You can do 1 at the start, and another at the end, or 3 of them at the start and end

[sharp imp]

still dont know what the grave key is, none of em look like tombstones to me

or maybe all of them do

[lyric zealot]

Basically the same key

But don’t press shift on it

[sharp imp]

"""Smooth Quality,lazypos,lazynsfw,<lora:Eyes_Lora_Pony_Perfect_eyes:0.7>,<lora:TrendCraft_The_Peoples_Style_Detailer-v1.0A-3_13_2025-illustrious>,(masterpiece, absurdres, amazing quality, very awa, best quality, ultra-detailed, very aesthetic),{masterpiece, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, 1girl, solo, female, {__female_hair__|__hair_styles_long__|__hair_styles_short__}, {__hair_color__|__hair_color_duo__}, __bangs__, {__eye_color__|__eyes_iris_colors__}, __eyes_pupils__, __breast_size__, { __female_clothing_general__, {__female_clothing_cyberpunk__|__female_clothing_gothic__|__female_clothing_fantasy__}, {__bottomwear__|__skirts__|__legwear_main__}, __pose_casual__, __pose_dynamic__ }, {__animal_traits__|__ears_other__|__tail_types_mammals__|__tail_types_supernatural__}, {__accessories__|__makeup__|__added_details_character__}, {__urban_background__|__fantasy_background__|__sci-fi_background__|__interior_background__|__natural_background__|__abstract_background__}, {__angle__|__anime_camera_techniques__}, {__lighting__|__special_effects__} | masterpiece, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, 1boy, solo, male, {__male_hair__|__hair_styles_medium__|__hair_styles_short__}, {__hair_color__|__hair_color_duo__}, __bangs__, {__eye_color__|__eyes_iris_colors__}, __eyes_pupils__, { __male_clothing_general__, {__male_clothing_cyberpunk__|__male_clothing_gothic__|__male_clothing_fantasy__}, {__bottomwear__|__legwear_main__}, __pose_casual__, __pose_dynamic__ }, {__animal_traits__|__ears_other__|__tail_types_mammals__|__tail_types_supernatural__}, {__accessories__|__makeup__|__added_details_character__}, {__urban_background__|__fantasy_background__|__sci-fi_background__|__interior_background__|__natural_background__|__abstract_background__}, {__angle__|__anime_camera_techniques__}, {__lighting__|__special_effects__} | masterpiece, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, __anime_character__, solo, {__female_clothing_general__|__female_clothing_cyberpunk__|__female_clothing_fantasy__}, {__urban_background__|__fantasy_background__|__abstract_background_light__|__interior_background__}, {__angle__|__camera_unique__}, {__special_effects__|__added_details_character__|__mood__} },"""

Nailed it

[lyric zealot]

But if you are intending to do multiple lines stuff, it’s better for 3 of them instead of 1

[sharp imp]

Its got variety, im rather enjoying this wildcard prompt. I might fiddle with it and make more lol

oh i love this

[toxic lotus]

Ya that'd def be easier lmao

Sorry I was at work

[toxic lotus]

Oh sweett

[toxic lotus]

🙏

[sharp imp]

I shared some of the best gens so far. A lot of stuff that got a little wild, some that simply didnt make sense and very few that just broke the model lol so all in all id say a successful test run

[toxic lotus]

Yeah I might need to retweak it tbh

I think the mast time I used it I was working on it and may have broken it

[sharp imp]

Black Magic is doin its thang

Love me some gritty, darker images. Most models do vibrant or dreamy too readily, sometimes i just wanna suffer

[toxic lotus]

Black magic os the model?

[near elbow]

preparing for the season

[sharp imp]

Nah Rams model Black Magic Illustrious i believe its called. Its got great colors, im enjoying it

[toxic lotus]

Ooooo bet

[glacial coral]

Hey people I love the photos in here I’ve just been scrolling up

A thing I’ve seen some “aesthetic” loras around on Civit AI but I have no clue if they are good or not is aesthetic mainly prompt based putting in what u want or can Loras like that help?

[glacial coral]

Got to try it also

[sharp imp]

So aesthetic or style loras influence the overall image more so than just a specific character or concept/pose lora. Things like color palette, linework, shading and background will be impacted. You can also use aesthetic as a quality modifier (for example; "very aesthetic") in the prompt without a lora. It will subtly nudge the model toward a more aesthetically pleasing composition. I recommend using the recommended tags for checkpoints or models that the creator suggests, but also familiarizing yourself with others used in different art styles (you can check danbooru for a tag list) and testing them out in your generations.

[sharp imp]

@fickle oyster made it, and a few others. I recommend checking them all out. They've been really fun to use so far for me, and it's a nice breakaway from my usual checkpoints.

[glacial coral]

Ah ok thank u appreciate it also DM u a aspect ratio question that i kinda need help with since i was tryna figure it out last night

[glacial coral]

Appreciate

[sharp imp]

I replied. I used custom settings to get to a custom ratio that @keen hollow suggested a couple days back, and it turned out decent. But I think that was a resolution upscale not a aspect ratio one. If you need to, you can math out the pixels at a lower resolution to fit your ratio, then upscale by 2x or 4x in the extras tab til you hit your desired resolution while keeping your ratio in tact.

[fickle oyster]

Thanks dude!

[sharp imp]

No problem! Love the work. I've wanted to get into training and merging and stuff so it's nice to see someone who's actually done it. I'll be posting some of the stuff I make to civitai and crediting your checkpoints so hopefully it drives some more traffic and appreciation your way.

[glacial coral]

Cheers my friend

[keen hollow]

Was that the 3840x1600?

[keen hollow]

I like this one 😄

[sharp imp]

Yeah, i had to upscale to that resolution lol figured the same strategy would work here.

[keen hollow]

work where?

[sharp imp]

The above instance, sorry forgot half that conversation was in DMs lol. She was asking about getting her aspect ratio to match like cinematic wide ratios (21:9 i believe).

[fickle oyster]

21:9 = 1536x640 just a super quick note, then upscale after

[glacial coral]

Ah ok and upscale u mean hi-res fix or a different form

[dusky linden]

ah your on forge right?

on the extra's tab theres an upscale option iirc

hi res fix is refining and upscaling

[fickle oyster]

HI-RES is close to what I do

But I do an iterative latent upscale in comfy... it's a hell of a flow

[glacial coral]

Yes

[glacial coral]

I would but I’ll get a Nvidia GPU before I have to deal with 20 nodes

[glacial coral]

Oh I see it it’s cool but I kinda don’t know what to do lmao

[dusky linden]

hmm id wait on Zenia to come back

[glacial coral]

Owkay

Hope all is well with u tho

[dusky linden]

o im fine thanks for asking!

shes working rn so were chilling

im a swarm user so i cant really explain how i do it

[glacial coral]

Ah ok

Can I use swarm on Mac with decent performance or u think it’s best to stick to one Ui that works and learn it since I’m also “new” to image gen

“cfd” and “runity” is crazy

😭

[wheat falcon]

removed the scam link

[dusky linden]

hmmm i recommend sticking with what you know for now

once you get that windows build though 👀

ill help you set it up

[glacial coral]

hey does well

[glacial coral]

woah thats really cool how did u get that machine hybrid?

[wheat falcon]

mechabare, see-trough body, exposed wired internal machinery

[glacial coral]

So prompts no Lora that’s cool asf

I’ve only seen this when people use Loras

[keen hollow]

eww guts 😛

[near elbow]

using modern models means much less need for loras 🙂
"anime style, see-trough body transparent skin, exposed wired internal machinery" with flux

i guess this is SFW - no naughty bits, machinery...

[glacial coral]

I see

Prolly why I’m always download need Wai updates

Since it’s my fav model

And it gets better each time

[glacial coral]

Text is quite nice

Was this prompt or u did some inpainting

Thanks auto correct

[wheat falcon]

yep no loras, just illustrious prompting

[glacial coral]

Ah I see thanks

[near elbow]

Steps: 7, Sampler: Euler, Schedule type: Simple, CFG scale: 1, Seed: 3460836797, Size: 896x1152, Model hash: a40a0a48fb, Model: fluxFusionV24StepsGGUFNF4_V2NF4AIO, Version: f2.0.1v1.10.1-previous-659-gc055f2d4```

using flux (or any other model) is like magic if you're used to SD 1.x or even SDXL

[glacial coral]

Flux fusion is anime flux fine tune?

[glacial coral]

I use flux a lot for realism

[near elbow]

just flux fusion, nothing anime specialized, very generic, does it all

[glacial coral]

So I’m used to flux cuz prompting is a like MJ which is what I come from but other models that’s not flux seems to like tags more so getting used to that

[near elbow]

going semireal, same seed 🙂

Steps: 7, Sampler: Euler, Schedule type: Simple, CFG scale: 1, Seed: 2116267029, Size: 896x1152, Model hash: a40a0a48fb, Model: fluxFusionV24StepsGGUFNF4_V2NF4AIO, Version: f2.0.1v1.10.1-previous-659-gc055f2d4```

[glacial coral]

I’ll download FP16 version and use draw things on Mac for 8 bit conversion and give it a try

[near elbow]

last one... same seed still flat 2d cel shaded anime studio ghibli style, speech bubble text "No need for LoRAs or tunes", neko female giving thumbs up, futuristic data center

who needs loras... who needs specialized models... right? 🙂

[glacial coral]

True

[glacial coral]

I also keep forgetting fp16 flux is 22gb usually on models

😭

[wheat falcon]

better use the quantized models

Q8 gguf etc

[glacial coral]

Ah see DT don’t support GGUF

Only standard

[wheat falcon]

DT ?

[near elbow]

right... fluxFusionV24StepsGGUFNF4_V2NF4AIO is my favorite

A: 13.66 GB, R: 14.03 GB, Sys: 15.7/23.9883 GB (65.4%)```

[glacial coral]

I wish they did but the dev said they have no need cuz it doesn’t give any advantage they don’t have on the speed on app

[glacial coral]

Draw Things

[wheat falcon]

ahhh

[glacial coral]

SD application on Mac

My go to for Flux since it’s the quickest

[wheat falcon]

why not use Auto1111 or forge then?

[glacial coral]

Also recently added TeaCache which helps me a lot

[wheat falcon]

forge does support gguf

[glacial coral]

Idk why but some reason flux takes longer on Forge than it does on DT

Maybe cuz Draw Things is apple hardware full optimised application

Not sure

I don’t know the actual tech behind that

[wheat falcon]

probably

[glacial coral]

Lmao

[glacial coral]

I would assume so since u can’t use it on windows or Linux only Apple devices

[sharp imp]

I fuckin love these simple background images.

[glacial coral]

What was this pose call and the model this style was related to as I think u mentioned it before

[lyric zealot]

likely top-down bottom-up

[sharp imp]

the model is IllustriousBlackMagic v3 CLEAN, and i didnt check the metadata for the pose cause im running a wildcard nested prompt in batches lol

but i do have files for every image that contains the prompt, so i can probably find it

its either top-down bottom-up or jacko challenge

[lyric zealot]

Smooth Quality,lazypos,lazynsfw,<lora:Eyes_Lora_Pony_Perfect_eyes:0.7>,<lora:TrendCraft_The_Peoples_Style_Detailer-v1.0A-3_13_2025-illustrious>,(masterpiece, absurdres, amazing quality, very awa, best quality, ultra-detailed, very aesthetic),masterpiece, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, 1girl, solo, female, crew cut, Wine Red, hair between eyes,face framing hair, x3, Yin-Yang pupils, flat chest, Sweater Dress, Cardigan (Open), ankle boots, Tribal shaman attire with feathers/beads, Woolen tunic and skirt, Knee-high leather boots, Steel gauntlets (feminine design), kneehighs, Lying down relaxed on back, Yoga Warrior Pose , Dragon tail, Earbuds (Wireless), Subtle Noise/Static Pattern Background, Dramatic low angle hero shot, crackling orange energy field around the character ,
this is the prompt

[sharp imp]

well it did not follow that prompt well at all lmao

must have been an interpretation of Yoga Warrior Pose and Dramatic Low Angle Hero Shot

[lyric zealot]

no idea

using top-down bottom-up, it's more suggestive

[sharp imp]

yeah, ive seen that one used more for nsfw posing than anything

[lyric zealot]

like if i didn't prompt for clothing, it will straight up gen without clothing

[sharp imp]

im learning that even if i do prompt for clothing, some models are just like...nah not this time lol

[lyric zealot]

that's true

if you find that a problem, try to put your clothing prompt higher up

or should i say, nearer to the start, or at least at the first 75 token

[sharp imp]

god forbid you only specify one article of clothing, its a toss up whether it crops the shot to show that piece of clothing or if it goes full body and shows only that piece of clothing lol

[sharp imp]

this is actually good advice. the way i structure my prompts its usually quality modifiers > subject and subject details > clothing > pose > etc

[lyric zealot]

yup yup, i usually put quality modifiers first as well, but that depends on the model.

and you should also know that it processes your prompt 75 tokens, then the next 75 tokens. So meaning, if your clothing is on the 75th token and the 76 token, example: blue sweater, it will not understand blue sweater, but actually blue, then sweater

[sharp imp]

i didnt know this, thats actually insanely helpful

[lyric zealot]

so you might find people using BREAK to intentionally fill the remaining tokens with padding, to skip to the next 75 tokens

[sharp imp]

that makes sense. i was wondering if they were using regional prompting, since thats often where i use BREAK, but their prompts didnt seem to align with that. the 75 tokens rule makes a lot more sense.

[lyric zealot]

just also know that since the first 75 tokens get process first, they are higher in weight as well (or should i say, more likely to appear than those after that 75 tokens)

[sharp imp]

makes sense

[glacial coral]

cheers

[glacial coral]

i think one of the names for that pose

is jacko sum challenge pose

i remember sum a while back on tiktok a challenge was with that pose

[sharp imp]

yeah, i got a few friends that told me about it lol the other one that youll see from time to time is the "yoruichi pose"

[glacial coral]

Yeah when that challenge went to instagram since uhhh IG has “bad” NSFW style auto censor It got more provocative with that pose

[sharp imp]

lol i can imagine. i dont have an instagram, i suppose i should if im gonna do anything social media-wise, but it just sounds like so much work lol

Lol what a clash of styles XD

[glacial coral]

For social media work Yh IG might be needed but yeah bro the NSFW auto bot is terrible like u can get real close to borderline uhhhh human body part area showing without getting restricted

I’ve unfortunately have seen some on my page instead of memes

Because the meme page hijacking part of instagram a while back messed up a lot of my fav pages and turned it NSFW

Tryna watch my words with what I say in this server

[sharp imp]

i mean, its an odd territory since different people would say what they consider nsfw is different. since its a sort of spectrum or subjective opinion these days, they should allow you to set your own filter for posts. would allow people to curate their experience better.

[glacial coral]

True but a lot of IG is just soft core if they could do twitter bit with actual NSFW warnings unlike Twitter sometimes adds it or sometimes just shows u it that would be better if they are gonna let this stuff happen

[sharp imp]

yeah. other problem is, sadly, nsfw content or nearly nsfw content gets reactions and engagement. its a similar thing to what ive noticed about Civitai. Gooners be goonin, and that affects algorithms and policies.

[glacial coral]

Yep

I think also just a filter for what rating u wanna see like civit on social media apps

Would be good

[sharp imp]

yeah

that should be like, the most basic thing they should have lol

[glacial coral]

I mean knowing me I’m not gonna mention it here obviously but I wouldn’t have filters enabled lmao

[sharp imp]

they ask your age, but it seems irrelevant on most social media apps as to what content you can find

lol and that should be a choice as well. but letting an algorithm decide for you is kinda lazy

[glacial coral]

Cooking

The ears and mask is my fav part

[sharp imp]

Yeah. Its funny, ive had better success with cyberpunk or futuristic outfits when i didnt intentionally prompt for it than i ever did

[glacial coral]

Aw man I lost the hand detailer prompts u gave me can u dm both face and hands so I don’t lose them again @sharp imp

[sharp imp]

sure

[glacial coral]

Thank you

[glacial coral]

Oooo cool I like how much detail this has

[sharp imp]

The glitch effect is my favorite part. Well that and the ripples and color contrast. @lyric zealot is this a model you made/are making ?

[glacial coral]

Glitch effect is great

Especially using it a bit like motion blur

[lyric zealot]

no, just straight up from civitai

i think there's metadata for that

[glacial coral]

1536x640 I’m loving as my new res cuz of 21:9 aspect is my fav

[lyric zealot]

i mean, i'm also using a lora, but that's mostly for the face

[glacial coral]

Yk I’ll give the “aesthetic” Lora a look and see if it actually does anything more to my gens

[sharp imp]

I use 832x1216 for portraits and 2560x1440 for my landscape/wide shots.

[glacial coral]

Straight up 1440p res fair enough

I’m not gonna push my Mac a lot when it comes to hi-res

Maybe I would’ve if I decided to get a 32gb ram or higher model

[sharp imp]

well 2560x1440 is my monitor resolution, and since i started doing wide shots to make wallpapers for it i just decided to stick with it lol

[glacial coral]

Ah that’s fair my pc monitor is 4k 240hz but I play games in 1080p res unfortunately due to the GPU I have

Unlucky me got hit by the high prices during lock down

I had to get the 6600 xt no other option

[sharp imp]

i snagged my rtx 3080 right before all that covid shenanigans thankfully, but my ps5 still ended up costing me 1300 due to shortages (had to buy from an individual seller lol), not my smartest decision but meh

[glacial coral]

Ah I got my ps5 when GoW rag came

So I bought it of Sony directly a ps5 disc GoW rag bundle

Loved the game

[sharp imp]

ill be honest, havent played it XD i bought the ps5 almost exclusively for FFVII Remake haha

[glacial coral]

Then I bought GT7 and love it

I’m very much a cat person

Well car

But apparently auto correct knows I’m a cat person also

XD

[sharp imp]

As ive gotten older, ive gotten more into working on my car. But thats cause i dont wanna pay another 20k lol

[glacial coral]

Ah that’s fair I’m 19 gonna be 20 in June

Hopefully eventually I’ll be able to get a nice car and tune it

But rn I rather enjoy work as much as possible

[sharp imp]

tried your resolution out and upscaled to 3072x1280 lol

[glacial coral]

Ooo nice

I just do 1.6 upscale

So 1536x640 to 2456x1024

[sharp imp]

yeah i shouldnt do 2x at this size, it slows down the gen a bit lol

[glacial coral]

Yeah I’ve tried it on my Mac

It does quite a bit

[glacial coral]

I have a question @lyric zealot since u use forge for hi res CFG should I use the same CFG as the normal one or should hi res be lower than normal one

[lyric zealot]

i let it stay as default, so it's using the same cfg is my generation ones

[glacial coral]

Ok so my gen is 7 CFG so my hi res is also 7 but both started on 5 on default settings before I got help from u guys in my forge setting

So hence I was asking

I have no issues with it just wanted to know

[lyric zealot]

well, you can try it if you want, i don't know if there's a need to change cfg after generations before hires fix tho

[glacial coral]

Seems like u also like 21:9 XD

[lyric zealot]

some creators of models recommend cfg 5

or nai users

[glacial coral]

I’ve seen but I have stuck with 7 on all models u guys have given me

And it seems fine

I don’t wanna mess things up to much before I know the proper basics of stuff

[sharp imp]

heh testing it out. some of the gens are a little....terrifying, but i think thats cause the model probably isnt used to the resolution

[lyric zealot]

well, do a plot xy to test it, you won't screw up much if you are just changing one setting at a time

[sharp imp]

so cfg guides prompt adherence, the higher the number the more it follows the prompt. the lower, the more creatively the model will interpret the prompt. 5-7 is the "typical" recommendation for most anime models. But there are some that suggest 3-5.5, and ive got a couple that are 1.5-3.5.

[glacial coral]

Cuz hi res on this looks completely different on draw things which is what I use for flux and before forge which looks like this

which does not look nor actually perform the same as forge

[sharp imp]

in hires, the cfg just does the same, guides the hires stage to interpret the prompt literally or creatively, and combined with the denoising strength can result in it changing the original image more or less.

[glacial coral]

tho forge in settings has got a repro of DT

[lyric zealot]

what's the difference between this and forge?

[glacial coral]

that i can actually understand forge

and get results thats good

[glacial coral]

while ths idek

[lyric zealot]

[glacial coral]

im getting better at tag prompting

[lyric zealot]

you are using auto-complete extension right?

[glacial coral]

not as of now

im just typing my prompts

[lyric zealot]

[lyric zealot]

well, with that extension, you can stumbleupon other tags, and even go explore it on danbooru, but often result it's nsfw

example, and if you press that ?, you get directed to danbooru

[glacial coral]

can u send auto complete over?

[sharp imp]

safebooru is a non nsfw alternative, if you wanted to look for tags/inspiration

[lyric zealot]

go to Extensions > Available, press Load from:, search for auto complete

[lyric zealot]

yup, but for that extension, it auto directs you to danbooru, you can probably change it tho

[glacial coral]

i dont see it

[sharp imp]

oh yeah, theres also the dynamic prompt "magic prompt" but it gets a little crazy

[lyric zealot]

tagcomplete instead?

[sharp imp]

and some of the magic prompt repos get REALLY nsfw lol and not the good kind

[glacial coral]

nope

[lyric zealot]

do you already have it downloaded ?

[lyric zealot]

well, yeah, because it's using some llm to do so

[glacial coral]

i think not i dont remember that download

[sharp imp]

true

[lyric zealot]

check your Installed tab under Extensions

[glacial coral]

nope

[lyric zealot]

i will just link you

https://github.com/DominikDoom/a1111-sd-webui-tagcomplete

[glacial coral]

ill restart after my gen

[lyric zealot]

it's basically this, if you search it

[sharp imp]

i was about to share the same clip XD

[lyric zealot]

i'm faster

[glacial coral]

Despite 21:9 taking longer imo it produces my favourite result

[sharp imp]

i flipped it to 9:21 and its not terrible lol

[glacial coral]

It’s just extremely long?

Also I think I really like black magic it’s closest I’ve seen to Niji 6 from MJ style native

[sharp imp]

kinda? i had one image where it looked like it stretched the hair but that could have been because there was a cross in the background lol

[glacial coral]

@fickle oyster really great model my friend

[glacial coral]

Ah I see XD

[sharp imp]

ill share a couple from this batch

[glacial coral]

super nice

one of my best gens

[sharp imp]

yeah its really good. i like the depth of field with the grass in the foreground and the mountains in the background. makes it feel more dynamic

[glacial coral]

yes for sure

[fickle oyster]

Thank you! 🙏

[vagrant sorrel]

researcher

[lyric zealot]

slightly disturbing

[stable crane]

very cool

[lyric zealot]

[near elbow]

have a big ear neko 🙂
(no loras, flux fusion with "flat 2d cel shaded anime studio ghibli style,creative chaotic unusual epic dramatic scenery, wholesome neko woman with comically large multicolored ears, sultry look, tsundere")

not amused

poor totoro

[sharp imp]

\

[glacial coral]

Amazing

[glacial coral]

@sharp imp thx for the help i kinda got what i liked here

[sharp imp]

[sharp imp]

Glad I could help

[near elbow]

beware of the pyro neko

80s vibes

[dusky linden]

NEw ilustrious V2 seems pretty good (no upscaling, adetail and some natural prompting support)

[glacial coral]

Compared to the fine tunes of others does this compete or are the others better?

[dusky linden]

\

[dusky linden]

this one is way better

1536x1536 gens

no after detail

refinement or upscale

[glacial coral]

Ah ok I’ll download it link?

[dusky linden]

works with 1024x1024 gens like we are used to and supports tag based prompting

https://civitai.com/models/1439680?modelVersionId=1681362

[glacial coral]

Ty

Might be my new fav model who knows

[dusky linden]

supports western characters aswell lol

[glacial coral]

W

Dataset making it sound like open source Niji

XD

[dusky linden]

still suffers from sdxl quirks though but thats great

again havent adetailed yet

and bad prompt lol

[glacial coral]

No hi-res and adetailer?

[dusky linden]

yup

[glacial coral]

What steps and cfg u use?

[dusky linden]

it works with it tho

40 steps, cfg 6

[glacial coral]

Ok ty

[dusky linden]

DPM++ 2m

[glacial coral]

Was gonna ask XD

[dusky linden]

scheduler:
SGM Uniform

works with Euler a etc aswell

[glacial coral]

How much longer would that take

With that sampler combo

[dusky linden]

but better natural prompt adherence with this

hmm

[glacial coral]

Compared to what I use now Euler A

[dusky linden]

gonna gen a no lora one at 1024x1024

with these

for me 7s

euler a

[glacial coral]

I wish mine would gen that fast XD

[dusky linden]

7s but my hardware is probably better

[glacial coral]

Me with a MacBook says no

[dusky linden]

with 5080 n all

but you can use euler a

luigi from the mario brothers standing on a giant green pipe, standing with zero suit samus,

like i said bad prompt

[glacial coral]

I still wanna know how fast the Mac Studio M3 ultra with 128gb ram would be

Vs Nvidia GPU with DDR6 64gb or sum

[dusky linden]

euler A natural prompting falls off

[glacial coral]

Rn the M3 ultra with 512gb ram is £11k of apple XD

[glacial coral]

Ah i see I’ll use the one u used first and see how it goes

[dusky linden]

at 1024x1024 is also truggles a little with following it more closely

but eh its probably a seed game

[glacial coral]

Ok I’m doing mine now

No detailer or hi res 1536x1536

If anything it will be my 16gb ram that will be the issue

If it fails to gen

[dusky linden]

hmm ah yeah your offloading to ram yeah

i forgot

[glacial coral]

Unified memory

Yep

Anyways it’s 13% done

[dusky linden]

hmm it works really well with artist tags too

[glacial coral]

I don’t gen this high of a res so it will take longer I’ll assume

[dusky linden]

hmm at 1536x1536 yeah will take longer

1024x1024 also works fine

but its less ai prompts

[glacial coral]

Btw ur gen would’ve been done 8 seconds ago by time I reached 23% now XD

[dusky linden]

no style promt (locked seed)

vanripper

vanripper and cutesexyrobutts

[glacial coral]

43% chat

XD

If we used same settings and I had a 3090 roughly how long u think it will take @dusky linden vs ur 5080?

[dusky linden]

hmm honestly? with SDXL not a big difference i think?

since it fully fits in the vram

hmm maybe a little slower

[glacial coral]

So if I can say Yh I have 5080 performance kinda (only on SDXL)

Just need to find the perfect 3090 used deal now

[dusky linden]

i wont be able to guarantee that since i never ran on a 3090

only on a 3070TI

but on a 3070TI i had with like 2 lora's 20s gens

[glacial coral]

I mean sub £600 for 3090 I’ll take it

[dusky linden]

on 5080 with 7 lora's 20s

same models

[glacial coral]

Fair enough

[dusky linden]

hmm honestly id save up a little more for a 5080 then

prices will normalize soon

[glacial coral]

On 1024x1024 does it do eyes well

[glacial coral]

Prolly these are current 5080 prices in the Uk

SS taken yesterday

[dusky linden]

oh yeah thats better since blackwell is newer and will last you longer

[glacial coral]

This is 5090 😭

[dusky linden]

i WISH

they were 6k here when i tried to buy them (NL)

[glacial coral]

my first gen

sum seems up with hands kinda

[dusky linden]

hmm it is ai afterall still

[glacial coral]

I’ll try 1024x1024 with hi res

I’ll keep the steps

[dusky linden]

hmm it sorta depends on luck still

3 gens, 1 bad hand

[glacial coral]

Seems like they really like watermark stuff

[dusky linden]

oh no thats the cutesexyrobutts, tag

hella poisoned with watermarks

but its one i knew out of my head lol

[glacial coral]

With mine it’s the same

I don’t have any Lora

[dusky linden]

tag based ones work just as well

[glacial coral]

I’ll assume they have a lot of styles and artists baked in?

[dusky linden]

yeah its like illustrious

so danbooru

but this time added natural language support

so aka "prompts cooked by llms"

[glacial coral]

woah

apart from that tag at the bottom its one of the best quality ones

[dusky linden]

try remaking one you did before

with the other models

[glacial coral]

I will but would it be better with 1536x1536 without high res or 1024x1024 and then do 1.5x hi res?

[dusky linden]

hi res

make it like you used it to

[glacial coral]

Yep doing that now

So should I go back to 30 steps or continue with 40?

[dusky linden]

up to you fam

[glacial coral]

I’ll keep 40

[dusky linden]

CFG scale 5~7, steps 28~35 recommended,

[glacial coral]

For now

[dusky linden]

but i dont follow guideliens

[glacial coral]

I think I’ll do 40 steps at 7

But if it goes to long I’ll do 30 steps

[glacial coral]

Can I try 1536x640 and hi-res 1.6x with 10 steps if u can im gen sum diff as of now

It may take a while

😅

[dusky linden]

send me a prompt and ill give it a go

[glacial coral]

Ok

[dusky linden]

running one Zenia did before (she has great prompts)

[glacial coral]

(ultra detailed), (masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, highres, absurdres, very aesthetic), chiaroscuro lighting, heavy shadows, heavy shading, hu tao (genshin impact), bruises on face, blood on teeth, eye scar, subtle wind, particles, dark background, dynamic pose,

[dusky linden]

hmm okay it likes 1536x1536 but it DOESNT like any variations of that

[glacial coral]

If yk what else to add to make it more cinematic u can also try that and tell me what makes it “better”

[dusky linden]

dropping the res to 1536x1536

[sharp imp]

ran 35 steps, no lora, no hires, no adetailer, natural language prompt, with the same cfg/sampler/scheduler you suggested and the creators suggested negative prompt.

1536x1536 also

[dusky linden]

pretty good

whats the prompt

[glacial coral]

Ik it just came out but I can’t wait for 3.0 XD

Cuz 2.0 is great

[sharp imp]

She wears a celestial dress made of stardust and moonlight,trailing behind her like a comet tail. Glowing particles swirl in the air around her feet,and her reflection ripples across the star-lake beneath. Her expression is calm,eyes closed,at peace in this impossible place.,
The background is a surreal night sky filled with stars,galaxies,and faint auroras. Soft clouds hang low on the horizon. The color palette leans toward pastel purples,soft silvers,and deep cosmic blues. The scene feels ethereal,like a half-remembered dream,suspended in silence.,```

[dusky linden]

personally, i removed the ( ) because that doesnt do anything imo

only when its (ultra detailed,1.1)

[glacial coral]

Ah ok I just copy and pasted from its description

[dusky linden]

it does anything but that causes burn

[sharp imp]

its supposed to softly nudge the model, like a really weak weight so ((( ))) would nudge it harder, but i feel like it doesnt do anything for quality tags

be different if you used it on eyes

[dusky linden]

hmm maybe its a forge speciic thing

[sharp imp]

and it does more in the negative prompt for sure

yeah im on forge

[glacial coral]

Ooo nice it’s 1:1 res but I kinda asked for 21:9 aspect but it’s fine XD

[dusky linden]

oo mb mb

lemme try

no adetail

[glacial coral]

Yay ty it looks great

[sharp imp]

also you were asking about gen time for a 3000 series gpu, i have a 3080rtx and it took 30 sec

[dusky linden]

running again with adetail

[glacial coral]

I think I’ll save up for 5080 but then will my pc be an issue? @dusky linden

[sharp imp]

so theres a big difference in the 3k and 5k series lol

[dusky linden]

hmm youd probably want a new PSU but honestly i havent made a new rig in ages

[glacial coral]

Ik that one I was gonna do that and ram anyways but the cpu is 5600 on a B450 board

[dusky linden]

my rig is like the ship of theseus at this point

[dusky linden]

adetailed

[sharp imp]

it added another scar, thats all i can tell lol

[dusky linden]

ends with adetailed ver

honestly it didnt need it

[sharp imp]

ahhh little sharper line art

but not terribly noticeable unless your looking at them in a lapse like that lol

[dusky linden]

gonna try some nsfw ones, see if they used safebooru or not

[glacial coral]

I’ll assume swarm has this adobe lightroom video maker on edits thing?

[sharp imp]

yeah i had lazynsfw in my negative prompt so i wouldnt get anything i couldnt share lol

[glacial coral]

Ayo “hear me out”

Good image tho

[dusky linden]

oh no i just used the snipping tool

[lyric zealot]

[dusky linden]

but i have LUT's but i didnt use them yet

[sharp imp]

i just upscaled to 3072x3072 with hires and that added soooooo much time haha. might go with a 1.5x instead of 2x

same prompt

[dusky linden]

1024x1024 and its usual variations work fine

but if you base it on 1536x1536

only ultra wide, simple prompts

otherwise mutation time

like the good ol 1.5 days

[sharp imp]

gonna test it with my nested wildcard prompt

[dusky linden]

Width: 1824, Height: 1152 squares or papes only with this high

mutations hella

[sharp imp]

hahah yeah

[lyric zealot]

[sharp imp]

good ol two headed mutation

[dusky linden]

cant post the full examples due them nsfw (good anatomy tests)

good ol detached head too

malformed bodies

etc

BUT what it makes it does GOOOD

[sharp imp]

lol had an image that was slightly nsfw with an extra random shoe in it.

random artifacts, but thats kinda a fault of the wildcard prompt too. it creates some pretty wild prompts

oop my lora broke it

[dusky linden]

hmm even at this res it still has a tendacy to mess up

many loras tho

[sharp imp]

set the weight above 1 and it said nah fam

[dusky linden]

specifically prompting what it messed up fixed it

[sharp imp]

the clothing details in that second one are really nice

[dusky linden]

them hands doe

[sharp imp]

lmao

thats chefs kiss, looks like hands from the next Gorillaz album

[sharp imp]

tactical gear is fun. you using open pose for the holding the rifle or just natty prompting that?

[dusky linden]

loras were at fault

[lyric zealot]

didn't even prompt for it or use open pose

it's random

[sharp imp]

nice!

[sharp imp]

some people have all the luck, ive not gotten a single decent holding a violin bow or drawing a drawstring in any gen

[sharp imp]

tried out 4xfoolhardy remacri with the last batch and got these beauties