🍥｜anime

[lyric zealot]

cursed

[keen hollow]

The crab lady is kinda fun haha

[dusky linden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1227646183304990810/1344775727991488592/2157-IllustriousXLntrMIXIllustriousXL_xiii-885757579.png?ex=67c2237e&is=67c0d1fe&hm=7988a59457a6142e658bb39e96b3414738e2ff19814a94bb9068eb1d04d3dc78&

My first style lora came out great

[lyric zealot]

looking great

[dusky linden]

Thanks! Tried to find a couple more sfw examples but had none on my phone lmao

[near elbow]

WAN anime attempts 🙂

yes, strange

[fickle canopy]

Considering you have a 4090, you might be able to run it at full 720p instead of 480p

[rancid remnant]

@fickle canopy my supermerger only works in a1111 but a1111 broke, do you know of any other extensions available for forge or reforge capabale of merging loras specifically

[fickle canopy]

I've been mostly using ComfyUI for the past 8 months now. And I've never used SuperMerger. But you can try https://github.com/wkpark/sd-webui-model-mixer

[rancid remnant]

sweeeetttt thank you

it was taken down 🙏

[near elbow]

yeah, but why take 2-5x so long when most people just see the small preview here anyway 🙂
btw, much better result now!

[fickle canopy]

That does look a lot better. Did you change any settings?

[near elbow]

same settings, just another prompt. still feels quite random results-wise, not like with text2img where you at least have some level of control over the output

[keen hollow]

I was going to upgrade my 3060 12GB card, but honestly, this 5000-series launch has been so abysmal.

I'm tempted to look at those new AMD cards coming out instead. But my recollection is that AMD support for AI is awful. 😦

[keen hollow]

pretty quiet here these days... sometimes wonder if I'm posting to an empty chasm.. 😛

[wintry stratus]

animated music video of a song i made within udio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DetIbpK64Y

[dusky linden]

youd be right

AMD is pretty bad for AI

well if compared to nvidia

but its okay for image gen i suppose

[dusky linden]

also yeah but the peeps i know that post are probably at work or sleeping rn lol

[rough oxide]

i still lurk sometimes. just busy with other stuffs & servers.

[fickle canopy]

Discord itself feels like that these days. I thought I had some active servers, but most are ghost towns.

[rough oxide]

naiv4 full releases today though apparently. will probably end up testing that all day long & have things to post again xD

[fickle canopy]

NAIv4 apparently just uses the FLUX VAE (according to their own posts), so why wait for NAI?

[keen hollow]

ooo let's see what you come up with

[keen hollow]

this is fun.. I like the pixel stuff

[keen hollow]

sad. 😦 nvidia not being very pro-consumer 😦 .... not like I could get one anyways

[rough oxide]

been playing around with it for a bit to see wut it can do

the style control feels a lot better

[keen hollow]

Yeah?

Well show us what crazy stuff you come up with!

[rough oxide]

inpainting also seems way bettr

once i think up some stuff

servers feel a bit slammed rn since they just launched xD

[rancid remnant]

Omg I missed a cs1o post 😭

I never see you post anything

[rough oxide]

clock eyes look niceee

text also works pretty well

[keen hollow]

Kirbz

[fickle canopy]

Rearranged in a specific order and this gets real dark real fast.

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-right-back-at-ya-kirby-anime-kirby-eating-a-watermelon-gif-17530449855967863291

[dusky linden]

According to rumors prices will drop in a month or 2 and supply will stabilize

[near elbow]

there's even a "there will be overstock and oversupply and thing will get really cheap" thread out there since their server GPUs seem to be doing not that well... let's see

[dusky linden]

Well i managed to snag a 5080 for msrp ish prices

Wanted a 5090 but with all the issues? No way

[near elbow]

that's cool - for AI more VRAM would be better but the 5090 is really ... special. happy with the 4090 for the time being 🙂

[dusky linden]

In upgrading from a 3070ti so its a big upgrade for me

And if i really want to run the heavy stuff i can rent a cloud gpu lol

[near elbow]

i prefer local for lack of censorship 😇

and have a nice CET morning everyone

[dusky linden]

Oh yeah but if i rent a cloud gpu i just use their gpu/comfy ui in the cloud that gets scrubbed after a few hours

And since im not making anything wrong theres no problems lmao

Can even use my own models/loras

[keen hollow]

I like your optimism. 🙂

[dusky linden]

well i managed to get a 5080 at msrp (not FE) things are looking a bit positive

[keen hollow]

have you done this? online rent?

[dusky linden]

not yet but Crystalwizard has (and adviced others)

im going to for work tho

[keen hollow]

I was tempted on the 5090, but that price, and with all the issues, I just.. can't. Power management over the cable is all jacked up, melting is worse, the PhysX drop, the missing ROPS. What a complete cluster.

[keen hollow]

Nice, I have really considered this for ease of use. Maintaining the local setup is kind of a pain.

You could rent a lot of GPU and still be a lot cheaper than a 5090 😛

So yeah, more likely to go maybe 5070ti/5080.

[dusky linden]

5080 is also.. interesting to install tbh

[keen hollow]

Gotta wait on the 5080 to ensure the power issues get sorted out, and the missing ROPS supply gets exhausted.

[dusky linden]

3 to 1

[keen hollow]

... not sure what I am looking at here lol

[dusky linden]

the GPU

[keen hollow]

reflection?

[dusky linden]

didnt pop off my side window

but theres THREE pci cables to 1 gpu slot

my 3070 had 2 connectors

5080 only has 1

[keen hollow]

I have a new ATI 3.1 PSU, so just the 1 cable for me. It has the new 12v2x6 connector.

No adapter needed.

[dusky linden]

o wait

i got a 3.1 psu too but it didnt say i didnt need that

hmm

[keen hollow]

You don't need it.

Only if you want to use the single cable.

[dusky linden]

will it be a problem if i leave it as is?

probably not i think

[keen hollow]

with the PCIE cables and adapter?

[dusky linden]

yeah

[keen hollow]

should be fine 😉

[dusky linden]

lmao

[keen hollow]

their are not very many reports of 5080s having the meltdown

[dusky linden]

im not worried tbh. triple checked that everything is solidly connected

[keen hollow]

if it was a 5090, i'd tell you to re-wire it and use the 12v2x6,

That was the included adapter/cables, right?

Never mix PSU cables from different PSUs. That's a bad idea. 🙂

[dusky linden]

it was included

[keen hollow]

cool

[dusky linden]

yeah its a newer cable and i useually work on older hardware so i didnt recognise itl ol

[keen hollow]

Well congrats on the 5080 at msrp, that's awesome.

[dusky linden]

brand new psu too
thanks lol

also got all 112 rops

[keen hollow]

Yeah, they started with the newer cable "12VHPWR" and had all those melting issues. Most people were fine, but... yeah. Then they altered the standard a bit and have that new 12v2x6 cable where it makes better contact.

[keen hollow]

THIS. This was most important.

[dusky linden]

yeah i checked for that first thing lmao

[keen hollow]

That is something that cannot be fixed. If you're missing ROPS, you have to basically RMA or return. 😐

seriously.... it's ... it makes me want to buy an AMD card and just rent GPU for AI.

Can't stand this bullcrap from nvidia.

[dusky linden]

also new speeds for SDXL illustrious if anyone was wondering
OLD RIG 3070TI:
prep_time: 12.05 sec, generation_time: 24.91 sec (includes face detailer)
NEW RIG RTX 5080:
rep_time: 0.02 sec, generation_time: 12.11 sec (sometimes 5.5s and 2s prep if i have a lot open) (includes face detailer).

[keen hollow]

Oh yes, I'd love to know speeds.

[dusky linden]

quick random gen to test

[keen hollow]

what ui?

Do a big ultrawide... 3840x1600. Curious how long it takes. 😛

[dusky linden]

ah SWARMUI

sec ill show

also dont you useually gen at 1536x640 and refine by 2

[dusky linden]

if i decrease the steps a little it will be faster. 20s ish

[keen hollow]

1536x640 : x2?

(i.e. 3072x1280)

[dusky linden]

ah mb

[keen hollow]

try a large gen native, no refiner

[dusky linden]

bet

runnin rn

looks cursed asf but its similar to my old card using normal resoultutions

prep_time: 2.09 sec, generation_time: 29.92 sec

[keen hollow]

yeah it'll be cursed without specific prompting/model types, that's fine... lol

30 seconds .. that's pretty crazy

I'm on a brand new rig so I don't have any of my AI stuff even installed right now. Otherwise I'd tell ya how long my 3060 takes. 😐

[dusky linden]

WOW! with 20 steps + a detailer only 7s

[keen hollow]

how do you use adetailer on swarmui?

Or is it just the regular segementation?

[dusky linden]

ah segment:face

yeah

[keen hollow]

ah ok

[dusky linden]

its basically the same thing lol

[keen hollow]

yep, very similar. Uses different models.

You can set it up to use the same "yolo" models from adetailer, from what I understand.

[dusky linden]

yeah you can do it in two ways

i prefer to just type but

pop up also works

[stable crane]

yo is that pomni?

[dusky linden]

ye lol, just a quick test bc shes visually interesting

[stable crane]

nice taste

[fickle canopy]

This was the first I heard of PhysX being dropped, how did they mess up this freaking badly, I "own" a bunch of these games on Steam.
https://www.pcguide.com/news/heres-every-game-affected-by-rtx-50-series-dropping-physx-32-bit-support/

[steady grail]

they attempted to focus only on ai environment, freeing space from gaming stuff. but what they got was only a very pricy slop that give little or no benefit to ai

what a fail

hello chat

[keen hollow]

yeah... sorry to bring bad news 😐

[keen hollow]

good bold lines

[fickle canopy]

It's not your fault. The blame for this bs rests squarely with nVidia.

[keen hollow]

Was gonna try leonardo but, wow, kinda pricey.

[near elbow]

a fast SSD also makes a lot of a difference when loading models, saving etc

[dusky linden]

hmm true

[near elbow]

flux does 2048x1024 native without any issues, just saying 😉

[dusky linden]

but i feel like if anyone is using any stable diffusion model with a high end card i safely assume they are not using a HDD

and my SSD is like 7-8 years old now

[near elbow]

a recent m.2 makes all the difference

[dusky linden]

yeah im still on a 2.5incher

[keen hollow]

nice.. let's see!

[near elbow]

ouch, SATA maxes out at around 500mbyte/s... that's 5-20x slower

[dusky linden]

i should get a nvme honestly. but first eating dry bread and water for the next month

[keen hollow]

I just got a bunch of new nvmes for the new rig 😛

[dusky linden]

still loading in is pretty fast for my casas as i dont switch around a lot

[keen hollow]

990 Pro for the OS drive.

[fickle canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[dusky linden]

[near elbow]

1440x768 with flux pro 1.1 on replicate - currently memchecking my 4090 rig 😕

"happy stereotypical anime manga scene" with flux 1.1 pro ultra at native 3136x1344 😉

upscalers be damned

[fickle canopy]

I generate 1920x1080 on SD1.5 (without upscalers) and can generate 3840x2160 on SDXL (without upscalers). What can FLUX really do without upscalers? I'm curious now...

[keen hollow]

replicate is a paid web service?

like leonardo and civit and such?

[near elbow]

https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-1.1-pro-ultra (and others)
quite user friendly and paid per generation, depending on the compute used, monthly billing... my go-to for "my rendering rig is at home" and other ad hoc stuff

they also have other models than flux

professional service, no strings attached (but of course censored)

[near elbow]

with SD 1.x you can generate at that resolution natively but it will be cursed as hell 🙂
not sure how well SDXL does at well above 1024x1024
flux (pro ultra) just goes up to 4k, and with flux on my 4090 i do 2048x1024 in less than 15 seconds. no need to go any higher IMHO, except if you want to print the results

the example above is native, haven't found a way to increase the pixel count

"vibrant friendly wholesome anime manga scene, landscape, peace, furry" for fun and profit

and that took 9.8s on their server, they do have some serious GPUs there 🙂

[fickle canopy]

Have you tried using a dpi count in your prompt? 96dpi, 72dpi, etc Or maybe pixels per inch (like retina display is 200ppi)

[dusky linden]

it looks hella good but im staying local thogh

though

[fickle canopy]

You have double the VRAM you did before, you should be able to run a lot more stuff now.

[dusky linden]

Yeah, i just never looked into flux etc before

Somehow the flux ran takes a bit longer but i blame that on the current torch being incompatible so running a hack setup rn

Schell and dev*

[fickle canopy]

That's not even remotely close to anime...

[rancid remnant]

This is the anime channel, why is there half naked 3D men in my favorite channel

[near elbow]

the prompt cannot influence the output resolution, that's a rendering setting - they just offer rations e.g. 21:9 and that results in a certain pixel count with the pro ultra model. in others you can set resolution but just up to 1440, so no 3k with that

[near elbow]

if you can run flux locally, just try it. it's a gamechanger prompt-understanding-wise, even though it's not anime focused

[dusky linden]

With 16gb vram i sure do hope i can run it lmao, though for a 1024*1024 it shouldn't take 40s right

Probably something wrong with my settings or checkpoint but ill look around

[near elbow]

i recommend flux fusion, schnell speed with dev detail. and flux is definitely slower than sdxl

[dusky linden]

Oh that's for sure but depending on the speed i might stick with XL since 5s gen speeds are really nice

[near elbow]

20 euler steps with 1024x1024 take >10s on the 4090, but with flux fusion i just need 6-8 steps so that's 5s and totally ok. depening on your hardware, that probably translates to 10s or so

[dusky linden]

That's pretty good actually. I'll give it a go when i decide to leave the comfort of my bed lmao

[near elbow]

try this, they even claim that 4 steps are enough (i tend to add some more)
https://civitai.com/models/630820?modelVersionId=942694

[dusky linden]

Ive been hitting 40s but thats probably due a checkpoint being falsely labeled as schnell

[near elbow]

or using 20 steps when 5 would do 🙂

[dusky linden]

Haha true

[near elbow]

have fun, bbl

[fickle canopy]

You'd be wrong about this if the info was included in the metadata for images. give 6720x4480 (weighted to 1.2) a try sometime at the start of your prompt.

[dusky linden]

ah tried to run it but my hack torch version is sorta incompatible (due 5000 series)

ill wait till its fully compatible lmao

though in illustrious i can still make pretty images so its allright

[wooden sail]

Free design, everyone
THE BOULLHATER

[near elbow]

early adopter fun, was that way with the 4090 back then as well

[dusky linden]

Yep lol, oh well maybe soon lmao

[keen hollow]

I love it! She's is cute! Let's see some more. Maybe though, without the missing arms, that's weird. 😄

[fickle canopy]

They're not missing, she simply has them behind her back to thrust out her chest

[keen hollow]

if you say so 😛

[wooden sail]

The arm's not missing. It's typical for character design sheet. To give a clear view of the side

[woven gust]

I had to change my in game name in Space Station 14. My name was "Eye Sore" :D

[bold ether]

Yeaaaah some love for Teto too. Let's rise against the Miku oppression !

Am I baiting for good content of both sides ? Maybe. You can't prove it.

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-angry-okoru-3d-gif-9728098896959152399

[stable crane]

nice, this a gen?

[fickle canopy]

No, shitpost/meme from one of my other servers.

[keen hollow]

no more of this character today? I'm disappointed. 😄 😛

[fickle canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/sephiroth-final-fantasy7-hair-windy-gif-14624273

So that's where my other wing went

[near elbow]

no more mrs. nice miku

[tardy sorrel]

A pastel-toned image with a travel theme.

How can I generate a image?

[dusky linden]

#artisan-faq or locally

[near elbow]

thanks for looking 🙂

[steady grail]

i really love this last one

hands need some fixing

i should add adetailer to the workflow

[wooden coral]

Got WAN working decently

[lyric zealot]

how long did it take?

[wooden coral]

About 5 mins render time and 2 mins of Interpolation and upscaling

But my workflow isnt perfect

[lyric zealot]

that's pretty fast. On a 4090?

[wooden coral]

[dusky linden]

Nice, what prompt did you use or is it still mostly rng to get a decent result

Sometimes they move at lightning speed, sometimes smooth

[wooden coral]

Its a good mix of both, this is also img2vid, I had a decent base to go from

[dusky linden]

Ah same, still hella random

Sucks bc in preview you cant see it well

[wooden coral]

Yeah right now for me its 5-10 tries for a cool outcome

[dusky linden]

Ah then its not my fault lmao

Tho anime images are harder on it then 3d

[wooden coral]

Yeah anything illustrated/painted is a pain in the butt

[dusky linden]

It really depends on the style but yeah it really hallucinates sometimes. Cant wait for a proper lora/finetune

[woven gust]

cute hair

[keen hollow]

evenin'

[rancid remnant]

Ooohhh famous painting collection

Woman in blue by vermeer

The scream

I think the girl sitting at the Cafe is van gogh?

Cant remember

So nice though

[fierce temple]

Trying for Makoto Shinkai art style

[fierce temple]

Which model and lora you use? Want this pixel art style. Arcade style

[keen hollow]

ha yeah... was just messing around.

Not sure about Woman in blue by vermeer... The first one was literally just a facepalm. 😄

In the set:
The Scream (Munch)
Mona Lisa (da Vinci)
Generic Escher style (Escher)
Starry Night (Van Gogh)
Starry Night again because I liked both (Van Gogh)
The Cafe Terrace on the Place du Forum (Cafe Terrace at Night) (Van Gogh) - this one is hard because it takes the words rather than the work. Thought this output was close.
Napoleon Crossing the Alps (Jacques Louis David)
The Girl with a Pearl Earring (Vermeer)

maybe I'll do some more

[keen hollow]

dall3, naturally.. gotta keep some alternate options going 'round here. 😉

[dusky linden]

Try a Rembrandt van Rijn

[dusky linden]

Cirno & peach combo

[wooden coral]

More WAN

[fierce temple]

I see. Wonder about prompt...🤔

[keen hollow]

nothing special, probably just put 'pixel art' in there. Is there one in particular?

[fierce temple]

Maybe have to try with Pixel 2d, armored, 16bit or 8bit or something. Need for some medieval art. What do you mean by one in particular?

[keen hollow]

The Man with the Golden Helmet - Rembrandt
The Girl with a Pearl Earring, again - Vermeer
The Wanderer Above a Sea of Mist - Friedrich

[keen hollow]

like one image in particular, ill see if I can dig out the full prompt

[fierce temple]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-gif-24736892

[fierce temple]

I'm actually looking for this type of pixel art I shared now. Only Arcade stuff.

[keen hollow]

In dalle-3?

[fierce temple]

Sure. As long as the output is produced, any model is fine.

[keen hollow]

The Swing - Fragonard (1767)

[keen hollow]

well it doesn't look like i kept these around so I don't have the prompts... but again I'm sure it was pretty simple terms like 'pixel art' and '1990s' type stuff

let me see what I can recreate

these are awesome

[fierce temple]

Yeah, nice. pretty old school art. The backward quality of 90s and 80s are very detailed.

[keen hollow]

if you want the prompt for any let me know

[fierce temple]

https://tenor.com/view/city-hunter-cofee-tea-drinking-sip-gif-14716738

[fierce temple]

Yeah, I want it.

[keen hollow]

Which one( s )?

[fierce temple]

The first post 2nd image. Spider one seems scary. And the blue color tone dragon image. Also the last post prompt.

[keen hollow]

Small anime woman centered on the floor underneath large thing. In 1990s pixel art LucasArts game, Loom. Dark medieval style. Small graceful woman warrior, centered on the floor underneath large obelisk. In 1990s pixel art Sierra LucasArts game, Loom. Dark style. Small graceful woman warrior, underneath large dragon, cliff near a cave. In 1990s pixel art Sierra LucasArts game, Loom. Dark style. A wide zoomed-out shot of a small graceful woman warrior with a red sash and short gown, underneath a large crystal. In 1990s pixel art Sierra LucasArts game, Loom. Dark style.

They all literally use the exact same descriptor for the style. 🙂

[fierce temple]

Nice! Thanks. Is that from a arcade game?

[keen hollow]

It's.... It's not from anything. It's generative AI.

🤔

[fierce temple]

Sierra LucasArts game?

[keen hollow]

Sierra and LucasArts were two companies that created many games in the 80s and 90s.

I like the art from those games - a lot of p&c adventure games.

[fierce temple]

Pretty old school. Consoles and PC platform I think. Any games you remember?

[keen hollow]

I remember a lot of 'em. 😛

[fierce temple]

Is these from one of the games?

[keen hollow]

... am I being trolled?

[fierce temple]

No. I mean are these scenes from any of these game?

[keen hollow]

No, they are not from anything. They are generative AI.

[fierce temple]

I see. There is health and mana bars. So, I asked.

[keen hollow]

ok that's enough pixel art 😛

ok, NOW that's enough pixel art...

[fierce temple]

Last ones looks cool. Can you share the room prompt? I wanna gen some now.

[keen hollow]

literally just the style portion - 1990s pixel art Sierra LucasArts game, Loom.

[fierce temple]

Cool.

[native parrot]

What tags are you using for the retrowave sun and the Pirate/Venician bay backgrounds? I like those a lot

[keen hollow]

something like "retro, road, driving a car like miami vice." and french/italian riviera

[rancid remnant]

im back with the spam rs

[fierce temple]

That one's cool mania. Angry chicken and the girl combo.

[rancid remnant]

a fancy woman and the anrgy chicken shes emotionally dependent on

what more does one need

[terse ore]

What are some characters/how to generate characters that have shoulder length hair but the hair is equal length all around ie the hair bangs are just as long and the same style as the hair on the back?

[rancid remnant]

so just

even cut medium length hair

?

[terse ore]

Oh

[rancid remnant]

try uhhh

"medium hair, straight hair, no bangs"

[fierce temple]

A car and a woman is also cool. Fresh reverse vibe that got from previous retro pixel art.

[terse ore]

Like I mean also like stringy hair, not parted like a woman

[rancid remnant]

or "mediium length hair, straight cut hair, whateverforthebangs"

give an image for example

[terse ore]

I'll check

Well I guess it's more of a hair type in addition to style I guess

[rancid remnant]

i dont think ive ever made a woman with a car yet before now that i think about it

[terse ore]

I'll experiment later, so tired 😴

[rancid remnant]

fair

[fierce temple]

Look for the pixel ones @keen hollow shared. Pretty cool.

[rancid remnant]

its only 10 pm rn, ill be up for a while

[rancid remnant]

i saw them before i started posting

i havent been posting much but i do check the images here from time to time

omnia has indeed been popping off

[fierce temple]

Some posts are pretty cool to add in music vid or games. Pretty good talent.🤔

[rancid remnant]

i love music

always listening to that shit

[fierce temple]

Music like?

[rancid remnant]

mainly rock

stuff like DEAD by peaks or or wonderland by mvssie

[fierce temple]

I see.
I try for some retro, jazz, synthwave music. Old school.
Timecop1983, Wolf Club like.

[rancid remnant]

too slow ngl

i need harder beats and faster tempo than what jazz gives

retro and synth are meh too because id rather sing along, so i prefer music with melodies in it

thanks for the rec though 😅

[fierce temple]

If you're looking for rock.
Linkin Park, Evanescence are good

[rancid remnant]

ah i know them

theyre in a few of my playlists

i started OUT on them LOL

thats the stuff i was listening to in highschool 😅

crawling and faint by linkin park, and who doesnt know bring me back to life lmao

[fierce temple]

A new tracks of Linkin Park are there. I like some new ones like Overflow

[rancid remnant]

eh i dont really listen to them anymore tbh

like i said, i was in highschool when i listened to that stuff lmao

[fierce temple]

Still, it's a good nostalgic feel.

[rancid remnant]

true

i have 3 playlists with nostalgic bands for me, like linkin park, and flyleaf, and Evanescence

[fierce temple]

Cool. Owlcity is also a forgotten gem.

Airbourne Breakin' Outta Hell

[rancid remnant]

you would not believe your eyes 😭

nah aint no way

youre giving me ptsd flashbacks of that song

[fierce temple]

Fireflies or some other track?

[rancid remnant]

yeah lmao

[fierce temple]

Cool

[rancid remnant]

Oooo that scythe one is PEAK

Why don't you post here more often

Your images are so clleeeaan

[wheat falcon]

idk xD

[rancid remnant]

Fair enough

I don't post much either lmao

[rancid remnant]

90s style?

Do you use loras or do you just prompt for your styles

[wheat falcon]

i dont use style loras

sometimes add detail but most of the time just prompting

[rancid remnant]

I hear you don't need style loras much with illustrious anymore but it still doesn't have like

Cartoon styles and characters among other things so I keep using loras

Even for styles that are uhh trained in models? Ig?

[wheat falcon]

yea illust is nice and for cartoon there are some models aswell like toonify or mistoon

for pixelart i used a lora

because it makes it cleaner

[alpine wraith]

i love the illustrious models they are a godsend for anime pictures

[rancid remnant]

Yeee I used mistoon when I was using pony

Haven't tried the illustrations version yet

Illustrious*

I like using Wai and uhhh SIH?

It has a weird ass symbol in front

Peak models

[wheat falcon]

yep wai is nice

[rancid remnant]

🔥

[keen hollow]

let's see some high res ultrawides

3840x1600

[alpine wraith]

i love the nova anime illustrious models

[wheat falcon]

yep they are great too!

have you guys tried nova orange?

has great details

[rancid remnant]

Oooo

Might try it

Some models wash out details in my loras

Like wai

[rancid remnant]

https://civitai.com/models/967405/nova-orange-xl
@wheat falcon this one?

Sweet

[wheat falcon]

do you use a vae or not?

[alpine wraith]

illustrious models dont require a vae

[wheat falcon]

but the hair in the bed pic and from frieren is grainy

or is it the model?

[keen hollow]

we need a new pony

I always found the illustrious models a pain in the butt to use

[rancid remnant]

Cs with the shade 😭

kidding kidding

Don't lynch me

[alpine wraith]

it was grainy cause i save it as a jpeg instead of png cause of the file size

[wheat falcon]

ohh

[alpine wraith]

but i figured out there was a quality slider for jpg

[rancid remnant]

Rs?

[alpine wraith]

for instance these pictures are the exact same seed but one saved as a png and the other jpg

[rancid remnant]

Pretty

[wheat falcon]

i like it more than pony, because i dont need the score tags xD

with the booru tag autocomplete extension its easy to use

[rancid remnant]

I like illustrious because it's clean

Cleanest models I've ever seen have been illustrious

[rancid remnant]

Hey smol

[lyric zealot]

[rancid remnant]

I like the twintails

[lyric zealot]

not intended, but a good additional

[rancid remnant]

LOL

[lyric zealot]

i guess using hair tie in mouth makes the hair tied

[rancid remnant]

It's always so great when it does stuff like that but also a little sad cuz damn I usually like that detail that gets added

Then I have to add it to the prompt

Or worse

Find out what to add to the prompt

[lyric zealot]

[rancid remnant]

I hate finding out that oddly specific thing I want doesn't work/doesn't work specifically with a lora I want to use

[lyric zealot]

does it work without lora on the same model?

[rancid remnant]

Yeah

I'm always using a lora of some kind, usually for style, but I often find if I'm having issues with a prompt or concept

Remove the lora and try

It's usually the issue

So I either have to lower the weight until it works, sacrificing style

[lyric zealot]

is that lora on super high weight? It shouldn't remove like concept from the model tho

[rancid remnant]

Or just make a new prompt/find a different style

Nah I use mine on a range of 0.5-0.8 at most

[lyric zealot]

if it's lora for style, then you can try finding a few photos of those style, then using them as ip-adapter

[rancid remnant]

I almost never use higher lora weights unless specified

[lyric zealot]

might solve the issue with prompt with lora

[rancid remnant]

Ip adapter?

Sounds familiar but

I forgot...

[lyric zealot]

do you use nai?

[rancid remnant]

That'd be dope actually

No I use SD

[lyric zealot]

basically vibe transfer

oh

then

hmmm

[rancid remnant]

I bet img2img or inpaint would help but

[lyric zealot]

basically a module for controlnet where you can "infer" from other images and "copy" their style

[rancid remnant]

Quite frankly I'd rather shoot myself in the foot than use those

[lyric zealot]

[rancid remnant]

Ah controlnet thing

All the things that make my laptop crash out

[lyric zealot]

ahhh

[rancid remnant]

I'll try it

[lyric zealot]

are you using reforge

?

or like

swarm?

[rancid remnant]

Reforge yeah

Swarm I use sometimes

[lyric zealot]

i think it's in reforge

but you might need to get the model, not sure tho

[rancid remnant]

Yeah I gotta grab the models lmao

It has controlnet integrated I just never bother with it

I stopped using controlnet after I switched from SD 1.5 to pony/sdxl

It jumped from usable to "holy shit even I'm getting impatient waiting"

I wonder if it's worse on illustrious

[lyric zealot]

i don't use much controlnet as well, but sometimes i use the ip-adapter to mimic some stuff

[rancid remnant]

Do I need specific cn models for illustrious models

[lyric zealot]

don't think so

[rancid remnant]

Oh thank fuck

[lyric zealot]

actually i didn't really use controlnet after using illustrious models, so not sure

[rancid remnant]

Yeah illustrious can even do two people (using loras no less) with just prompting

So I just haven't really found a good reason to Crack open controlnet

[alpine wraith]

it can do up to 5

[rancid remnant]

Yeah but I'm not into that

😅

[rancid remnant]

wildcards snuck something cute into my gens

[rancid remnant]

Those would be cute emojis

[alpine wraith]

chibis are easy to make

[rancid remnant]

ah i never do cute stuff tbh

i wouldnt have known

[rancid remnant]

peak

she looks like she'd kill me

id let her, i think

[lyric zealot]

[rancid remnant]

ooo coraline vibes with the buttons

[terse ore]

What makes anime so liked is because it's expressive and that's because the heads and eyes are big. So that must mean the power puff girls are the best animesw

[rough oxide]

pretty sure powerpuff girls z didn't do that well

[rancid remnant]

irl powerpuff girls 💀 spoilers because its cursed

[alpine wraith]

\

[native parrot]

dang I guess I should try an illustrious model lol. I like Bluepencil but it refuses to render more than 1 character. Even Ponypencil, so I've been using Autismmix Pony

[rancid remnant]

i love illustrious

[native parrot]

I also get alot of extra/missing limbs when generating. Do you guys have any tips for lessening that? I've spent a lot of hours using inpainting and controlnet to fix them for seeds I like

[rancid remnant]

depends, what are you doing rn

what are you using to generate, what model, what settings, what prompt, what negatives, what loras if any-

[alpine wraith]

i use a complex series of negative prompts that help me alot

[rancid remnant]

tbh it should just be good model = good image

[native parrot]

Been trying to make dakimakura style. Using Autismmix based on Pony, no negatives or extra limbs/disfigured limbs, just this LORA - Dakimakura(2 shots in front and behind)_SDXL(Pony)|抱き枕(正面と背中)_SDXL(Pony)

[rancid remnant]

how long have you been using ai btw

[native parrot]

I started last Saturday lol

[rancid remnant]

[native parrot]

but I've put ~45 hours into it

[rancid remnant]

can i see your ui

i want to look at some things-

[alpine wraith]

since your new, the newer models sometimes dont require a lora, since you're trying to make a dakimakura try adding "dakimakura" in the prompt alone

[rancid remnant]

.....

img2img?

not txt2img?

[alpine wraith]

@native parrot i assume youre going for something like this?

[rancid remnant]

are you trying to uhh take an image and uhh like impose and style over it or something?

or...

[native parrot]

yes I've been using img2img because it's faster and I'm trying to generate art based off of 2003 mmo assets like this

[rancid remnant]

this gives me nintendo DS vibes

[native parrot]

Trying to get a 50/50 screen similar to this

but yes would like this style. Pony doesn't do a great job of hitting this one. This is from BluePencil

[rancid remnant]

i think you could just go to txt2img and make those images in the style you want very easily

you could probably just prompt for it but im not sure how as ive never tried that before

try an illustrious model tbh

[native parrot]

I've tried (2 shots in front and behind) because that's what the LORA suggests, but I have to roll like 10 times to get it sometimes

and if I don't have the LORA on I don't get it at all. The problem with the LORA I was using was it would force the bed to be made with normal fabric since that's all the model was trained on. So I had to go back and inpaint the background to get a hay bed

[native parrot]

Illustrious is definitely giving me better results than pony was

[alpine wraith]

imo illustrious is currently the best model for anime

[rancid remnant]

illustrious is peak

[keen hollow]

Hi, welcome. let's see those negatives!

[keen hollow]

Nice, this one is -clean-

[keen hollow]

good ones here, too

[keen hollow]

oo nice these are good too.. also clean. This looks like a more vibrant pony model.

[alpine wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[lyric zealot]

steamecommunity

[rough oxide]

they're coming here too? seems to be a resurgence of them lately.

[dusky linden]

here too? we get a few daily here lmao

[rough oxide]

didn't notice, but haven't been super active in this channel lately. they've been invading other servers I'm in though recently more than usual.

[lyric zealot]

they definitely were more active previously

[wheat falcon]

TOPA

[steady grail]

bots?

[rough oxide]

yea

[steady grail]

😮‍💨

[alpine wraith]

i little fun trend i started a couple months ago

[wooden coral]

[fierce temple]

Very soft coloring and soothing atmosphere. Can you share the prompt? I'm trying to do something similiar for this picture below.

[steady grail]

metadata are still inside

(iuui,ajishio,marushin:1.05),year2023 , general, BREAK teto, vocaloid, 1girl, red long hair, big eyes, dreamy relaxed expression, looking at the cat, smiling, silk_dress, playing with, animal, cute cat, feral, outstretched paw BREAK (chibi:0.7), (pastel gradient, pastel colors, pastel, pastel palette:1.2), clouds colorful palette, colorful, chromatic aberration, bioluminescence, vignetting, reflection, neon palette, solo, vector trace, yellow theme, official_art, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, high resolution, ultra-detailed, absurdres, newest, scenery,depth of field, volumetric lighting, very awa, (symmetrical:0.3)

focus on token before the birst break and after the last

[fierce temple]

Oh, my bad. There it is. Got it. Thanks

[dry oak]

cat

[wooden sail]

Guess who?

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/emma-watson-harry-potter-omg-susto-shock-gif-17588273

[keen hollow]

Guess who?

[rancid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[pallid prism]

wow

[wooden sail]

How it started/how it ended

[lyric zealot]

steanmescommunity

[lyric zealot]

@finite herald

[keen hollow]

guess who

[wooden sail]

What is her name?

[terse ore]

Ginny?

[wooden sail]

Difficulty up. Any guesses?

[terse ore]

Genderbent Malfoy?

[terse ore]

Ok I cheat this time with google, is it the unidentified Slytherin girl? Played by Chloe Rich? (I never watched the movies past #3)

[wooden sail]

Pansy Parkinson
Always imagined her like this

[terse ore]

Oh. I always imagined her as black haired for some reason with an ugly nose. It's been years since I read the series

[wooden sail]

There was (nose:1.1) in the prompt

These sisters shouldn't be hard to guess

[terse ore]

My first guess would be fleur and gabrielle delacour but these are wearing Slytherin... 🤔

[terse ore]

Ok I had to Google it again. Daphne and Astoria?

[keen hollow]

That's clearly Katniss Everdeen

[fickle canopy]

I think I've seen that second one before, shouldn't there be an iceberg somewhere?

[keen hollow]

maybe she is sitting on it?

[woven gust]

smug face?

https://tenor.com/view/kroni-smug-face-gif-23487332

[wooden sail]

seductive smile, smug

[formal mesa]

@lyric zealot make 12 continuous cartoon pictures for the story stoncutter

[lyric zealot]

beep boop~ error receiving command

[formal mesa]

Could you @lyric zealot make 12 continuous cartoon pictures for the story stonecutter

@lyric zealot Episode 1: A poor stone cutter chipped at a rock.His hammer went TACK and his chisel went TOCK.

Episode 2: Then a rich man walked past, in his rich man’s clothes.“I’m just a poor stone cutter,” the stone cutter said.“I’d rather be a rich man instead.”“
And he became a rich man.

[keen hollow]

Goooooo Chgans!

[keen hollow]

Felt like a somewhat cohesive story. 😛

And eventually he lived happily ever after.

He offered her stones...

And flowers...

They were married.

And yes, they lived happily ever after.

Hope that helps, Lin, and that it's the best story you have ever seen. 😄

[keen hollow]

Would you play this game?

Or this one?

I'd play "Tank 'Splosions"

I bet @wooden sail and @woven gust would play this one.

Maybe a sim game.

ok that's enough time wasting.. sheesh...

[wooden sail]

Is this Gemini?

[keen hollow]

dalle3

I haven't messed with gemini in a while.. maybe I should give it a go.

I don't even have any local AI stuff installed on my new build. Got annyoing maintaining it. Just feel like using the web services now. 😛

[wooden sail]

Is shoule probable be able to handle very complex scenes 🤔

[wooden sail]

Can't have it without fine controls like that
[stadium:gym:0.2] - switching prompt mid generation.
And with Comfy it's even 'grainier'

[keen hollow]

gemini's filters are too much... can't get very basic prompts. Maybe it doesn't like video game boxes?

ok, enough time wasting... gonna go get something done. byeee

[woven gust]

yes, I like smug

[final vault]

Hi! I haven't used image gen ai for a long time and now when I'm checking the prompts some of them have something like "score_9" or 7 and so on. Is that some kind of lora?

[wooden sail]

It's a feature of a popular model Pony Diffusion. It has been trained on captions of a certain 'style'. Here's an article about that from the creator:
https://civitai.com/articles/4248/what-is-score9-and-how-to-use-it-in-pony-diffusion

[final vault]

Thank you so much

[near elbow]

manga cover fun

[wooden sail]

Very fun indeed

[lyric zealot]

this looks more like a comic than manga but still great gen

[woven gust]

that model looks colorful

[sacred ivy]

A girl with long, flowing white - blonde hair is depicted. She's wearing a black leather jacket over a black top, and a pair of large, over - ear headphones rests on her head. Around her neck are some necklaces, adding a touch of style. She is playing an electric guitar, which is predominantly blue. The background is dark with blue light effects, creating a cool and dynamic atmosphere, suggesting a musical performance or practice scene.

[fickle canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-guitar-the-muppets-youtube-dear-earth-strumming-gif-23560685

[acoustic agate]

[hybrid jolt]

what did you use to get this outcome?

[lyric zealot]

oh welcome back, it's been a long time

[lyric zealot]

best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, very awa, masterpiece, absurdres,

1girl, solo, red hair, tied hair, red eyes, stud earrings, beanie, round eyewear, korean,
Negative prompt: bad anatomy, bad hands, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, (worst quality, low quality:1.1), jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, username, sketch,
Steps: 24, Sampler: Euler, Schedule type: Automatic, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 795778899, Size: 768x1024, Model hash: 938234ffc1, Model: ΣΙΗ, VAE hash: 66f78ad136, VAE: sdxl_vae-fp16fix-blessed.safetensors, Denoising strength: 0.4, Clip skip: 2, Hires CFG Scale: 7, Hires upscale: 1.5, Hires steps: 10, Hires upscaler: 4x_fatal_Anime_500000_G, Version: f1.3.0-v1.10.1RC-latest-1010-g9277598e```

[acoustic agate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-cuteness-animals-aww-gif-17687147

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-chase-you-cant-catch-me-gif-13110262

[stable crane]

oh wow, it has been a long time

wb

[keen hollow]

Tron style

[keen hollow]

pewpews

[fickle canopy]

I can't post a thing here, I don't do SFW stuff. =/

[nova remnant]

What models yall using? ive been messing around with the popular illustrious models (WAI, Hassaku, Prefect) and I just havent been able to make it work the way i want to. I feel like everything in illustrious has this same 2.5d shiny look, or a grainy look to it no matter what i do

[dusky linden]

What sampler do you use?

Euler A?

Its a matter of prompting nhl

Ngl*

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1227646183304990810/1349481381050454078/2136-IllustriousXLwaiNSFWIllustrious_v110-1290593608.jpg?ex=67ddcdf9&is=67dc7c79&hm=e02802ae29e97e55cd4b833c3c41d579690c84391398447e616fafbf32122677& unless you consider this the classic 2.5d shiny look

Abs were fine iirc

But if not 🙏 forgive me fruit

[nova remnant]

I mostly use Euler A or dpmm 2

I can post some examples tomorrow

[dusky linden]

sure, also i switched from euler a to Res multistep + KL optimal

[fickle canopy]

KL optimal? Ewww. I tried that when it was first thought up and it just can't compare to AYS (with proper n +1 sigmas)

[hybrid jolt]

how can i make this better

[fickle canopy]

*"Weird Science" by Oingo Boingo starts playing in the background*

[hybrid jolt]

?

[fickle canopy]

It's a movie that's as old as I am about two teenagers designing a woman in their computer and she becomes real. The theme song is also titled "Weird Science".

So the only way to make her better is to make her real

[hybrid jolt]

meant if anyone has pointers on what could be improved

[fickle canopy]

Well, your windows need work but that's probably an issue with your model and will be nearly impossible to fix.

Your vase only has one handle instead of two.

The maid outfit lace disappears before her hair would cover it

[rancid remnant]

Holy shiiittttt

I KNOW THAT MOVIE KOI

You're giving me nam flashbacks

You're making ME feel old koi

[fickle canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/napalm-fire-morning-explosion-gif-12246413

[rancid remnant]

I bet you know what it actually smells like old man 🙏

I want to watch weird science now

[fickle canopy]

I may or may not...

[rancid remnant]

How many wars were you in 😂

[fickle canopy]

Zero

[rancid remnant]

[cloud verge]

can i dm you with some questions?

[hybrid jolt]

sure but im probably not the best to ask as i just started SD yesterday

[cloud verge]

it's fine!

[terse ore]

There are modded 4090s with 48gb. Anyone know their performance?

[fickle canopy]

It's modded, I wouldn't take the chance as you will have zero warranty at all in case of issues.

[terse ore]

Are they that unreliable? I saw some on Alibaba with good reviews. But, I'm just curious to know their AI gen speed. And old cards have their warranties expired long ago

[nova remnant]

not really nsfw but just spoling just in case

[dusky linden]

Hmm dm me the prompt

[dusky linden]

whats the prompt? (i forgot to reply in my last msg)

[fickle canopy]

masterpiece, ultra-HD, impressionism (1.5), high detail, (blurred background), masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic,8k,anime, masterpiece, best quality, 8k, (flat colors:1.6)
1girl, Tatsumaki, short hair,navel,jewelry,underwear,green eyes,panties,earrings,green hair,midriff,pants,necklace,bra,side ponytail,dated,see-through,black panties,highleg,black pants,black bra,hoop earrings,pearl necklace,highleg panties,see-through shirt,tatsumaki,green belt,cowboy shot,kneeling, v & 3d, realistic, blurry, low quality, grainy, noisy, distorted, jagged edges, artifacts, rough, worst quality,muscular, hearts, heart symbols, skinny,

I bolded the & so you could see P & N clearly.

[dusky linden]

ah attatched meta data. sometimes discord strips those

[fickle canopy]

Discord doesn't strip anything unless you download the webp

[dusky linden]

hmm JPG's get stripped

PNG's dont

[fickle canopy]

You're also forgetting there's a command line argument --disable-metadata

Some use it, some don't

If someone doesn't use that, and then creates a checkpoint, You can even drag + drop the checkpoint into ComfyUI to see what their filthy mind was working on.

[dusky linden]

hmm imo its the negative AND quality tags giving that plasticy look

why no spaces though 😭

so hard to read

[fickle canopy]

No idea, I copied and pasted it verbatim so you wouldn't have any issues.

[dusky linden]

did it with my usual tags made it a bit more SFW tho (no refine/adetail/upscale)

[fickle canopy]

Still looks semi realistic around the midsection and anime for the face

[dusky linden]

hmm yeah but less plastic

hmm if i use a artist tag (no artist lora)

quick and dirty style changes. 2 was with a lora the rest with just a artist tag

[nova remnant]

Yeah, i still feel like the WAIillustrious has this sheen to it that is distinctly AI. an issue i didnt really have in pony

[dusky linden]

hmm this is WAI yeah

lemme switch my checkpoints

[nova remnant]

CSR one doesnt have that issue, but it is distinctly CSR

[fickle canopy]

And if you want a highly realistic one, I recommend Crystal Clear XL

[dusky linden]

oh yeah didnt use a lora for that one

different checkpoint: ΣΙΗ

stomach thing is still slightly plasticy but no grainy

think its just a matter of applying the right style and fitting promtp

prompt

[fickle canopy]

You might have to get rid of some of those quality modifiers, like ultra-hd

[dusky linden]

oh yeah definitely. i use diferent ones though

[rancid remnant]

i live

[fickle canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/the-internet-says-youre-dead-alexis-alexis-rose-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-20761561

[rancid remnant]

i WISH i was

but noooo

[fickle canopy]

One doesn't escape Walmart that easily

[rancid remnant]

😔

its not even open 24 hours anymore how am i trapped here