#π₯ο½anime
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Just saying I like the images. You're the one taking pictures of them and posting them on discord! YOU let them sleep! π’
... π j/k
I will stop taking pictures and take action instead
π
well it's got loads of problems but she blinks π
It's alive
Kill it!

Cursed
Thanks π I'll give it a whirl.
No specific scheduler or step count you recommend?
ughhhh jittery failure π’ Now I remember why I stopped trying to do animations for animated characters 
local catgirl gets seizure
yeah I dunno, I'm getting much better results with other samplers than EulerA CFG++... that one seems really blown out
Just 30~ steps
Are you using 1 to 2 cfg? :o
guys what do you think about a 12gb 3060 for generating images?
unless you're getting a really good deal, a 12gb 3080ti or a 16gb 4060ti would be better
you can gen with all the available models for the most part but you will not be future proof or have the speeds you'll probably want due to bus speeds. Can you use it to gen images? Absolutely but the second you're like "I want to try to do video or play with using an llm on local in conjunction with your generative models you'll wish you had more vram. All in all it's a great place to start and you'll defo be able to do stuff.
mmmmmm i dont want to spend a lot on money
it soo big the diference between 3060 and others?
realistically, you should wait a couple months for the 5090/5080 release and grab something good used
yeah that true
When the new graphics come out, they will lower the price of the old ones. Better wait.
in the end, your only real limitation is speed, if you don't have enough vram it'll overflow into system ram and go slower, but it'll still work, the difference between a 3060 and a 3080, both 12gb vram, is the speed
my roommate has a 3070ti (8gb vram) and it gens a sdxl image in something like 8-12 seconds
my 4090 gens in 2.5-3.5s, but not because of hte vram, it's just a much faster gpu
I think I'd rather wait a bit, spend $100 or $200 more and buy something that works better and lasts longer.
currently the best money for performance seems to be the 4060TI 16gb version, it's about $450 USD right now, getting one of those used when the 50 series gets released will be a steal
I'm on a 4080 so I can say that I envy your vram so it isn't like vram isn't important π

well, I went from a 3080TI 12gb to the 4090 24gb, and tbh 99% of the time the vram is nice, but not worth the money i spent
a typical gen only uses maybe 14gb vram at most, and usually much less
I went from a 4060 8gb to the 4080 super similar jump just one tier down. π
same except in video. Interpolation is easy but the initial gens are murder if I'm trying to do anything over a couple of seconds at a usable resolution.
out of curiosity what is lora training like on the 4090? My current pipleline takes several hours.
it's a matter of perspective too, I don't use flux models because I think it's too slow (40s for a gen with hires 2x), but some people can't even generate a 1024x1024 image in 40s
I haven't done any lora training recently, but when I first got my 4090 it was taking about 20-30 minutes to train sdxl
I also had a small dataset though, like ~20 images
DAMN! That's fast... similar dataset size but I might be doing to many steps. I'm working on cooking up a new method for lora creation since my last attempt didn't produce the results I wanted... anywho thanks for all the info π
i think i was doing like 10 steps per image, but i don't remember, i was just training a specific face
in the end, i switched to sdxl because i was tired of all the prompts, loras, embedding, etc required to making anything decent with 1.5
but I make up characters that work well with the model I use instead of trying to get specific characters from the model, so it makes it easier for me
I'm a huge fan of SDXL I keep trying to get into flux but every time I play with it I end up just going back to sdxl. I keep trying to find a way to use it in a way that's beneficial but I find I can generate a comparable solution in sdxl most of the time. Every time I think I can do something in Flux better then I can in sdxl I find that there's something I can do if I just apply the right tactics when working in SDXL for less resources and faster gens. So many wasted hours testing just to find out that SDXL is a better use of time and resources. smh.
yeah, flux is great at context and comprehension, but it doesn't know very much ultimately, if there was a pony type finetune of flux that worked as well as both of them i'd probably switch
but on the other hand, pony/sdxl is still faster, so i'm still not sure i'd end up using flux anyway
came to the same realization a couple of days ago.
it's also hard to switch to a new model, every model prompts differently so you have to relearn the quirks and 'bad' keywords/tokens for the new model
for me, I found a model and figured out how to make it work for me, so I don't feel the need to try different models all the time
i play with the new stuff like SD3/3.5 and flux, because I can and it doesn't waste too much time on my gpu
but they're not very impressive yet, so i just go back to my normal stuff and wait π
every once in awhile I try poking around with video/animation stuff, but it's all so bad I end up giving up
I just want to be able to gen a few images as keyframes and then try to make the AI fill in the blanks
toon crafter is pretty good at that. the pipeline I'm in the middle of working on is aiming to do just that. basically using DWpose to extract poses from video like a poor mans mocap then through the use of a lora apply that to the control net open pose rig stitched together with frame interpolation from toon crafter.
so far I have pieces but nothing works well together as of yet.
Aren't you a cat? Isn't sleeping like your thing? Or is that a racist thing to say?

weather has been hot so I only sleep for like 2-4 hours
And I have nightmares every day
Nightmares probably make me sleep worse but I don't know 
catnip helps since it's basically impossible to dream when you take some... Not sure what part of the world you live in and if it's legalized there, but food for thought.
T.H.Catnip hint hint wink wink nudge nudge
toon crafter looks interesting, but the way it gobbles vram and the low resolution seems to make it mostly useless
don't use it for the actual generating just use it for frame interpolation.
the 512 image resolution doesn't apply to frame interpolation and vram usage goes way down aswell if you just use it for that side of things. Use svd to gen your main vid so that you can test it... you'll see the flaws but you can also see why better structuring your main video source is the most important part of the process since if you just use svd to go img to vid it loses the plot on many key details. I think the key to this is creating a lora and using open pose as well as something like a vision model to instruct keyframes...
Only if you're interested in buying used
im angry now
:<
I hate that shit
if you do that just block me
goes for anyone
π
well, tooncrafter doesn't work, just segfaults immediately with no errors.. seems like the comfyui method might work better, but I don't use comfy so I'm over it π
oh sorry what do you use? are you on swarm or forge I'm a comfy user so I didn't know it would cause problems for you.
i use swarm, so i could use the comfy method, but it's supposed to run on its own
but it doesn't, and it seems like the devs are all using windows so that's probably why it doesn't work for me
I'm on ubuntu but if I give you a workflow you can just use that right? Regardless it seems like your over it so I won't waste more of your time since the solution isn't what you're looking for anyways right now... However, if and when I do get it working I'll let you know. π
@supple raptor eheehe
she ugly
and dirtied lots of my elf gens
cause people thought it was her
or looked similar

considering all the anime elves out there.. frieren is not the one i'd pick for my waifu, i wouldn't call her ugly but definitely not the best looking
the anime is really good story wise though
Not ugly but not the best looking
Me in life


wow, that's a good style
yeah... I can create a grid example
Well, I've been using NoobAI :o
with euler_cfg++ and karras?
I think this is a pic I've done without any LoRAs, Euler Ancestral CFG++, 2 CFG, and Normal sampler
I still haven't tried that noobai one.
If you want to grab the PNG Info from that one
I dunno why people like base illustrious, it's hot garbage... π π
illustrious pencil...
yeah, euler_cfg++ isn't my jam
that looks a lot like pony
Doppel herz π π
this is CFG 2.
Something must've gone wrong with the grid then
I get the same with individual images.
That's odd, euler++ shouldn't look that much different than euler
Is that Euler Ancestral CFG ++ or Euler CFG ++?
Using the last version of NoobAI, something is different about it, but it still works just fine
the last version is pretty good
i make this one with the 1,0 verrsion
Yeah, from what I heard and tested, 0.5 to 0.75 is more unstable cause they trained TE, 0.75 to 1.0 should be more stable cause they re-trained the UNet to stabilize it, but I have to get used to it and relearn it xD
Fair fair :o
same issue with both on those models, I'm afraid
samplers, rather
yeah just random sets of whatever π
prettym uch
surprised how much better my alyas turn out from just 10 more epochs xD
well "just 10", actually kind of a lot for a model of this size
can someone give me a prompt to try
1girl, shinshuu maru (kancolle), kantai collection, braid, brown hair, long hair, twin braids, breasts, brown eyes, large breasts, ribbon, red ribbon, hair ribbon, ahoge, akakura
...but that only describes char
whicih model?
anything you want
do you want a specific one or random ?
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Anything with Tifa. π
that model dun understand artist ;_;
looks like kancolle char is popular enuff tho
lol
this is the char i described
playing around with artist styles to see what works well with this new model per char
wait
it is better than novelai diffusion v3
and local
sd3.5l is good. nothing pony-based is good
check this model out https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl
i lost the prompt 1 min
it's the main anime model rn
it can even do chars up to july
and adheres to artists/etc very strongly
xD
i r berry strongly recommending nai-xl
you won't even need to use loras
u can transition other stuff into any style no lora, like making chars psg style for instance
huke's style comes out perfectly
etc
idk wym by that
I have an error wait trying to fix
I loaded a model into wrong direcotry
post issue here?
I think the issue is that i loaded a unet model in checkpoints
i have to move it becuase it says can't detect model type
yes that's what i did but refresh didn't work i had to restart
my main point is u dun even need a lora to do this
anymore
if u want best anime model
nai-xl is best one right now
flux is unet w/ specialized vae u need to run alongside it
- dual clip loader
i don't sitll have my flux workflow cuz i moved entirely to sd3.5l for realism
lol
wait it's loading
I think it's fixed
something is wrong there is blur idk why is that
u using dual clip loader?
yeah
u using right samplers/etc
use emptysd3latent
for flux
but that isn't the issue
hmmm
are u using flux guidance node
lemme try
xD
but it's necessary
maybe into prompt box
cuz iirc flux had no neg prompt
but uh i really dun remember where it goes xD
but that's 100% ur problem
use comfy's workflow?
MUHAHAHA
first one
did u replace ur latent with emptysd3latent too
cuz that improves quality for flux
they use similar vae
that might be right
and put cfg to 1
doesn't support iirc
well
it's not supposed to support it.
but looks like u got better qual
lol
whai u no wanna try dedicated animu model xD
don't use neg
i think comfy's workflow had a custom sampler
node
copy the top fox image into ur workflow
i think my desc doesn't include enough of the important parts cuz anime models fill the gaps ;_;
Okay wait i will try your model
not mine lol
i mean the one you sent
I don't have any loras yet
I'm just playing around with H100
I think it's sdxl so i will load it into the sdxl workflow of sd3.5
one sec i'll send u my noobai workflow but
u'll either have to change the name of noobaipred10 whatever to NoobAI or expand load checkpoint thing
cuz this one needs clip skip
specific sampler/scheduler/etc
works very well if you learn some artists and knows every char/concept on danbooru with i think
Prompt: 1girl, shinshuu maru (kancolle), kantai collection, braid, brown hair, long hair, twin braids, breasts, brown eyes, large breasts, ribbon, red ribbon, hair ribbon, ahoge, akakura
it's roughly 80+ now
so even like histoire works
from neptunia perfectly
i also have a sheet of chars i've confirmed to work in some capacity
...but
there's like 5800+ here
xD
easy reference sheet tho
Lemme try
All ugly

that shuld be fine. that artist was a bit too strong
i think i had to reduce weight a bit
yea
there's like diff setitngs for everything
a lot of us found euler ancestral beta to be best typically but the TE is a bit weird in this
sometimes u have to lower weight of artists/chars
weight ? cfg ?
e.g. highlight a word
i don't have weighting in the prompt
and press ctrl+down arrow
okay i see
the problem is
this mdoel
knows like
anything with 80+ quality posts on danbooru
so some things are too strong
it's basically a fully lora-less model
for any char/concept u could want
i like that output xD
as an example just changing artists on this becomes....
(waiting for gen to finish, i batch 4 at a time lol)
This is flux 1.1 pro
simple artist change becomes this
on otherwise same prompt
artists are super strong words in this model
can i post links here ?
depends on the kind
it's a link for my comfyui
like civitai page or sumthin?
no
i just dun like visiting unknown sites ;_;

it's okay if you don't want to
but the annoying part it will keep showing that it's opened in another tab because i opened it too :3
hmmm i'm still perplexed as to why
you had pony without any loras xD
pony shined with loras but its time came to an end when illustrious became base model
wat
it totally does
it lost almost all basic concepts
try to get a leek in pony
xD
a completely important part of any kasane te- hatsune miku gen
lol someone just playing with it
technically I'm using autismmix, not base pony, but i've never needed any loras
I think i have this one
i trust you guys

there's spammers and scammers in here all the time, don't trust anyone
yeh
there's way smaller more tight-knight communities u'd probly have no issue doing that in
but uhhh
this is the main sd server
there's tons of malicious lurkers


I mean I have a backup so it's fine 
yes
no it's not my pc this is my h100 server
how long does it take u to make 1 35 step dpm 2m/euler a image for noobai?
curiously
when u were testing it
Errm wait lemme try
you can try it yourself
better than novelai used to be but worse than they are now xD
it's very fast on euler but dpm++2m takes longer
for cogvideox5b it's 6 seconds and 50 steps it's 160 - 200 seconds
regular euler is super fast.
hmmm
slow
but i have like 5 other models loaded in vram
4090 is faster than that
innerestin'
autism and noob r same architecture
it's still sdxl
4090 specifically had massive ai improvements (and lol now i wish i went for it over 3090 more than ever)
so much stuff coming out that could benefit from speed
pretty sure if u batch 2 it'd be even faster
what are you using ?
Only a 3090 smh my head
4090
no i mean
swarmui
doesnt matter, it's still comfy backend
i haven't updated my nightly torch stuff in a while
i shuld update errything
wait comfy added new text_encoders folder
r we suppose to put clip stuff there now?
hmmm
is this 35 steps?
h100 should be faster i'd think
yea
that's way faster
2.5s an img
less
like 2.4s an image
xD
that's also why i said it'd be faster to batch
longer to get 1 image but in this case for 2x the time u get 4x images ;_;
yeh it hits a limit at sum point
that's why i dun batch after 4 usually
but
that's still a speed increase
of a further like .1s
yeah, in a batch of 4 it's twice my speed
But for 1 image is pretty close maybe it has something to do with model loading and stuff like this
could be
I like ur pfp
whose
@vital raptor
lol, thanks
and you too 
lol
mine is one of those sd3.5l ones with photoreal bg with anime girl forefront
but
once noobai hit 0.75 i stopped putting as much time in 3.5l
Maybe i can try to animate things
can someone send me any pic to put it into cog ?
cuz u can mochi on ada6000
does this auto download mochi ?
no
oh
okay wait
i don't think i modified the mochi workflow at all from when i got it from comfy
u can probly do more frames
than comfy put
the problem is huggingface download speed is limited to 40mb
I have an idea
oh
50 gb model"
40"
....i cannot read fast today xD
but yea that 40gb is why you need like ada6000/h100 to run it
in the first place
to load all that into vram
this will take ages if it got downloaded with 40mb
but comfy's workflow had something for it
....if ur like
hobbyist tho
it's best video model rn
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
and u have hardware that can run it xD
i can do it too but only for like
2 seconds
and it takes me 4 mins
to do 2 secs
also it'll output a png
it's actually an apng
but won't work here
u'd have to convert it with ffmpeg or something
to like webp/gif
or mp4
it will take like 50 seconds now
they should create a custom node for this one :3
How to get the nightly ?
oh okay
but uhhh
might be smaller than i thought
shaved about a second off based on what i was just getting
if h100 qualifies as a nvidia gpu for pytorch stuff
then the command is
pip3 install --pre -U torch torchvision torchaudio --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/nightly/cu124
if u did it recently then ye
otherwise it's "nightly" cuz they release updates like every day
yeah i see
doesn't really seem to be something u need to do too often
sometimes there's small optimizations
do i need anything else other than the moochi dit thing ?
i don't think so
i think it includes everything else innit
love how it gets diabellstar's masks now
xD
i forgot to remove restaurant part of prompt i was writing just now ;_;
wait i forgot about the vae
this is only a 480p mdoel they'll release hd model later
no
i think
hmm
i feel like it's all in mdoel but mochi1 page is loading so slow
yes i thought it's my internet
everything is in the dit file
nope
no?
ok then u need encoder/decoder
but
i'm 99% sure it was all in genmo itself
when i tested it
I'm still downloading all the files π
rip xD
no that's correct
u have to convert it
to some format readable by discord
that's an apng right now
discord doesn't do apngs
yeah
it's moving in comfyui
but when i click download it gets the png only
wait
ffmpeg can convert it
the png is the correct file
but it needs to actually be
converted by you
lol
can I get your workflow so I can catch up?
it's the same workflow that @rough oxide sent
This one @desert island
But you have to download the model in unet then choose it and download the decoder in vae folder and choose it also
yup just finished downloading everything just needed a starting point thanks π
you need 3090/4090+
this is nonnegotiable for this one
lol
they recommend 4h100s even
but it works with 1 ada6000 well enough it seems
increase framess!!
i told you!!! lol
how long did that take btw?
you're welcome and also thanks for @rough oxide for sharing the workflow π
on ada it was 2 mins for that length
yeah
try 120?
but how long did it take u to make just the 37 sec?
nah i'm just curious about speed & stuff right now
xD
I added 120 but it puts 121 automatically
it's not 37 seconds
i'm importing a lot of gakuen idolmaster chars that weren't in my sheet lol
i will try again with 121
i'm not entirely sure
what the frame count to sec is
i couldn't experiment that much
was going out of RAM really fast
for 121?
no
it produces like 3 files
someone told me moochi can do up to like 1 minute
i'm not sure
for 121 it's taking long
at 48% now
i'm not 100% sure about all of this. my limit ould probly be like 40 something
cuz my ram literally almost maxed out
and i have 64gb ;_;
this might be helpful for you
yea
see
lol
this is why they say like
4 h100s
but
u might be able to do hmmm
90 for 3 secs?
idk how far u got
it took like 257 seconds
how'd u convert to mp4 or whatever u did btw lol when i tried that my ffmpeg kept breaking ;_;
but this isn't something i'd use myself anyways at this point
wait
NoobAI-XL is hard to handle so far
ffmpeg -i [inputFileName].png -vf "format=yuv420p" -vcodec libx264 -crf 23 -pix_fmt yuv420p [OutputFileName].mp4
try this
i'll save it for if i ever try it again
hard to handle? in what way?
ur trying to do something that's better in a vpred model i think
they're going to do vpred conversion soon
damn
it's pretty good
for that retro look
but mochi1 is uhh
try to give me a prompt
try anything
noobai seems to be heavily artist tag dependent, and if you don't know what arist you want it's mostly just trash output
nyooo. i'm fixing up my character database right now xD
I'm currently running a few hundred gens through an artist list I have to find something good since it doesn't give the same results as pony models with the same artists (some better, some worse)
but the quality is good
i have an artist list too xD i keep adding to it as i add more chars to my char list
these r way too big now
well. mainly char one is too big at 5907ish now
@rough oxide maybe i can try to to animate one of ur characters
mochi isn't img2vid ;_; and i dun care much for curr img2vid stuffs
I'm not particular about characters personally, I don't gen known characters
i keep filling wildcard, good for inspiration or for a quick prompt
if u wanna animate make the feathers move here? xD
idk
okay wait i will try something
now ic probly why you like pony-based models more xD
cuz this model excels at known chars/shows/styles like that
...which is why this list keeps growinnng
for my wildcard mostly
1girl 1other
xD
i do have 1other
i have a single 1other
1other, testament (guilty gear), guilty gear strive, black hair, red eyes, androgynous, long hair, choker
saya isn't a 1other right
pokerface.png
lol
i never actually read vn so idk wut saya is
but all booru tags for her r 1girl
Teeeechnically lol
hmmm
finally dun with gakuen idolmaster stuff. idk why i didn't have it before
with that many tags
xD
the other thing i don't like about noobai/illustrious is the heavy token counts for quality tags in both prompts, but it's also civitai so no telling what's actually functional or not
quality tag isn't necessary tho?
i haven't used them at all
but i have used long-ish neg prompt
and i do use worst quality in neg prompt ig
xD
i very very rarely use quality tags in positive prompt
it really isn't necessary
just adding 'worst quality' to neg is a huge improvement
the examples didn't use them either
yes just that for neg prompt
but
even noobai creator dun use them in the example prompts
xD
a dynamic and vibrant animated scene featuring a red-haired heroine with cat-like features. The heroine should be in the midst of an action-packed moment, leaping forward with determination and focus
I tried with this prompt
hmmm
well, you don't really need anything in the positive prompt when you have paragaphs of word salad in the negative
also furry, anthro in noobai case lol
one of the greatest benefits of sdxl is that you aren't supposed to need quality tags or negatives at all
but one or two things in the negs if you really need to remove something
this model seems to take a step backwards as if everyone liked the bloated prompt mess from 1.5
i like results with less effort π
simple prompt, no negatives, it just works
pony does have a few required tokens, but not much
something like novelai diffusion went through 3000+ epochs(?)
can't rly afford that benefit for smoller models
and rly
i rarely ever change my neg prompt
i've just been using the same one i setup from beginning and it works for me
"worst quality, bad anatomy, bad hands, lowres, text, artist name, signature, jpeg artifacts, simple background, white background, abstract"
i tried removing abstract a bunch of times but it seems to help a lot
xD
steals
i forgot wut they even use
and i can't inspect ur image
xD
but idk, using furry, anthro seems to lower qual. + i like using stuff like renamon a lot
slayers
what i use
lowres, bad, error, fewer, extra, missing, worst quality, jpeg artifacts, bad quality, watermark, unfinished, displeasing, chromatic aberration, signature, extra digits, artistic error, username, scan, abstract, gradient background
o ok
that's too much for me
i like chromatic aberration
i use it in prompt a lot too
the shorter version i also used
lowres, text, error, worst quality, low quality, jpeg artifacts, chromatic abberation
still.
xD
ok like
if i removed chromatic aberration
that'd probly be good
also
u misspelled it
in urshort one
remove extra b, add extra r
oh true
hmmm that one doesn't work for me; too many white bgs but i can probly remove some stuff from mine stuff.
...starting to think if it works i shouldn't change it, mine works for me xD
and by not messing with furry
i can still get gud renamon
xD
wow! a list of several hundred artists! I still have so much work to do!
o
i has a list with 300 artists
also 5900+chars
a bit less than half have full description
but my artist list is kinda more towards what i like
no 2.5d stuff
like wlop or ones like that
Understand. to each his own. but still this is a pretty impressive list
credit to both uhhh
sanaeXL and animagine for parts of the list
then lots of my own stuff in both
I have several Wildcard files with a list of artists. but so far it hasnβt been their turn.
i've been using a homebrew python script
so i ahve more control over my promtp
it randomizes char + 1-4 random artists
...that way i can alter prompt if it's a male char or something
vs just wildcarding
..."coding" with chatgpt is fun
autocopies to clipboard cuz of pyperclip too xD
to me it all looks like magic. I'm not good at programming π€ͺ
same. that's why i tell chatgpt when it fucked up and i'm like fix it >:|
lol
or maybe i wasn';t descriptive enough
but i think this was just 2 iterations in
pretty simple to make
i also used it to make my merger script
i merged sanaexl list with animagine char list
but had chatgpt program it so it could detect duplicates even tho similar style
worked almost flawlessly, somehow vergil from DMC got duplicated
but that was all
just tell it the problem and it makes solution
lol
and yeh the wildcard script was literlaly just 2 text prompts
cuz i realized i wanted it to auto copy to clipboard after
can kinda learn what it's doing by analyzing it too
This is Magic!
it's like stripping 1girl/1boy, male focus and then looking at next part
to see if it matches anything else
between one split, determined by comma
so idk why vergil (devil may cry) got duplicated
but that was the only one xD
@rough oxide I'm trying the new setup with the moochi wrapper and i will tell you if it's faster or not but i got the fp8 version now
will be lower qual if u do that
there is fp8 and bf16 and fp32
but u'll be able to gen longer
i will try all
yeah
fp32 best, bf16 is what i had to use
bf16 seemed pretty bad sadly
already xD
okay maybe i can try with fp32
Cool it's ugly and terrible but I finally got it to work on my 4080 π
π nice good job π₯
i forgot to wish y'all a merry christmas, i'm like 3 days late
...christmas is the day after halloween leading all the way up to dec 25th right?
according to the local stores, christmas started 2 weeks ago
ollama stopped working on comfyui...
i surrender...
yes
steals her plushy 
Activates magic spells
Mofu came to say hello
we're finished! Mofu has arrived!


