#🍥|anime
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like if you do like
a prompt with 3-5 tags
or just
a 1-2 sentence prompt
nai might come out on top with style
but nai has that problem where as chars get further away
the eyes are really bad
a lot of models do
flux seems to be the first one where
that's not really the case a lot of times now
78 seconds compared to flux 300 ish second per gen i forget how quick any other model is
lol
for me something like nai would be 8 seconds
flux on standard 1024x1024 is
36 seconds
yh but ur on a desktop im on a macbook
i would use my 6600 xt with Zluda but im not in my room with my pc rn
what gpu u running tho
im still considering a refurb 3090 for £580 GBP
3090
Perfect at least ik roughly how long it would take if I got a 3090 🤣
I don't think £580 is a bad price either tbh
so nai is what? a model?
If u don't mind refurb or used I think it's the best under £600 option u could get for AI
it was the main anime model for the past like
loooong time
i feel like a lot of merges have surpassed it now tho
cuz it was like...
6+ months ago
ah
I would like to know how fast m4 pro is on SD
maybe 8-10 by now
still, if released it's massive.
bigger than anything else we have avail rn (aside from flux obvs)
but specialized in anime
it can even do some pretty obscure chars
have a link to the current one?
like lovely labrynth of the silver castle
it's a paid model
oh i see. so it's just a new version of it or a version of it for flux?
random flux gen for another thing i was testing for a 4ch post
naaaaah
if they're posting in the FOSS area of that server
and saying 5 days
either a. naidv3 gets FOSS'd
b. they release a new like naidv4
c. technical reports or sumthin dum (but would make future anime finetunes better)
something like that maybe
nai's main advantage
is it knows any anime char with any level of popularity
this is a random yugioh character for instance
that is just a monster on a card
and it gets the details near perfectly
cuz it's essentially
trained on all of danbooru
for
an extensive length of time
any char with like 80+ pics in the database would be usable
practically
even super niche stuff, and it gets all the details right
cuz the only origin of that char is just this xD
and it doesn't have nearly as much data on danbooru (at the time of training) as many other things
totes should've responded to this earlier, but ye, saaaame. AI is my absolute favorite thing, both text & image, sometimes music, primarily image lately... used to use stuff like TADNE/TWDNE models and other stylegan stuff before that, disco diffusion, etc... it's come so far in just 2 years, we can now get like exact anime screencap style stuff. rolling the gacha for a new anime image is just as fun as playing games xD
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I'm guessing that message is about their new text model cause they've been working on that for a while now. I also can't seem to find that message on their server so Idk if that's even real 😭
nu cuz
it's specifically in a meme thread for naidv3 FOSS status
BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE MEME ANYMORE
is the hope
it's real
ik where it originated from, it's where 4chan gets a lotta info from
lol
but the question is... how real
inb4 it's just nai v4
i'd like... still be sort of ok with that
it'd suck but i'd go with it anyways
lmao
They don't plan on finetuning flux so who knows what they're gonna do
we were all thinking wdv would be the thing to push anime gens into the future with finetunes/etc
This is the only realistic outcome lol
cuz of the sheer amount of tuning, being on par with or better than nai
Ain't no way nai v3 will go public
if naiv3 goes public it will be the best thing evr. that is all >:|
lol
it will seriously propel anime finetunes
into teh futureee
It's way too good of a model
That's a take
the problem with naiv3 is u can't manually finetune or make loras/etc for it
as a base model it's good
but flux as a base model is even bettr imo
It won't. They would be shooting themself in the foot by releasing that model. They know just how much money they're making with it, and making it open source is not a good idea for them
I find it hella impressive that ppl have been making flux loras already
How fast are they optimizing it lol
mhm
Why not? It's an SDXL finetune, if it was open source I'm pretty sure it would be easy to make loras for it
It's not a base model tho? 😭
That would be amazing, but the question is, which base model are they gonna use
It could be their own base model, they did mention they wanted to make their own for a while now. I don't see why they would use XL again
Cause the only thing they could improve is the dataset by making it bigger and they could also add some tools like Controlnet or something like ADetailer for example
Yeah flux's license seems to be the issue. Well not really, but for NAI it is
license is good for people who just use the model for outputs, but bad for if you're trying to profit off like specialized finetunes of the model.
my guess for nai thing is probably
both the simultaneous release of naidv4 and naidv3 getting foss'd?
pfffff. doesn't make sense to post in that thread otherwise
xD
Highly doubt that, they didn't even want to release NAIv2 let alone v3, besides like I said it wouldn't be smart to do if they're looking to make money. But we shall see
It's 4chan after all, they do a lil bit of trolling
no it's
literally tabloidA who posted it
from my own ss
Ohh where is that from, which server?
nai v3 lite
ur in the server
featuring no artist styles
Thought it was posted in the NAI server so I was looking there instead, my bad 😭
it wouldn't be a "leak" if it was on their own server. smh.
xD
ya tabloid said nothing in anlatan server
that i could find
5 days is gonna be the new 2 weeks meme if nothing ends up happening lmao 😭
Lets hope for the best, NAIv3 on local would be insane
They better not get rid of the artist tags or else..
They already did with the furry model iirc
Pretty sure they don't wanna risk getting a lawsuit from the western artists, I remember seeing something like that. They also don't plan on making furry models anymore so yeah
has a whole pound of health for 4 mana, too op.
anyhow headed to bed in hopes of sleeping but knowing my body. be back in 3 or 4 hrs...sigh
FOSS , F-OVER Sus Service?
Found On Side Street
Zzzzzz
To be honest I don't know lol
See the person
Is co owner of Anlatan so like unless it's a genuine leak
Needs more bows
How about no.
Peddle your shit elsewhere.
thanos declines

Lmao
What was that about
Spammer trying to sell garbage.
These are great, btw. Nicely done.
beeg
woow !
Flux is lots and lots of fun. The more I use it the more I like it.
oops caught
adds random styles.. just .. cause
hmm supose to be a dragon...
AH HA!
hmm has me wanting to reinstall cyber punk 2077
don't think I have the HD space
last batch
interesting style
thank you!!
there we go
ooooh
adds in style for tron legacy
"Pilot in position beginning startup sequence!"
I would so watch a tron anime
hmm which is better a lora, or an embedding?
there kinda more anime-ish
a stroll in the forbidden forest
there we go more anime-0ish
Ik
rolls a d20 to see if they stay up or not1-5 , bed, 6-10 stay up a little longer, 11 to 15 longer, 12- 20 I never sleep tonight
- damn
2nd 20, tied. hmmm. best out of 3
4.. damn
guess i'm going to bed
best ouf of 5.. 15 and 2.. still lose
ok guess i'll be going now.. thud
bbl
playing around with sum tagging stuff i found on teh 4channels.
That's a lot of cat girl action
2nd ❤️
same prompt.. clipskip 10
clipskip 8
interesting effects
I should go back to bed.....
ooooh
ok last one ...
Hi what model is this
Hi what model is this
https://civitai.com/models/261336/animapencil-xl combined with https://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/z-a1111-sd-webui-dtg
Are you using automatic 111, sorry i am long lost to SD and not updated
which flux the latest ones?
are you using automatic 111 or other?
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-dev this is latest but automatic1111 doesn't support this model
u have to use comfyui or swarmui for it
but about to go to sleep for tonight, 4 am here, i'd have to give more detailed instructions later if you can't find em.
then how to install this?
animapencil would go in a models/stable-diffusion folder
idk how forge works
but i seriously gotta sleep sorreh ;_; it's way 2 late for me
ok thank you
finally managed to get flux running locally, with some decent speed
NF4 ?
the schenell model isnt the better option
using model keyword and dantagGent ext
I like it
model keyword uses textual inversion and lora's. interesting
changes it up and experiments
some of your settings in that screen shot could be made to make your output better..... 1, change the shedulaer to simple not normal, 2. your CFG is at 15, bring that down to 4 or 5,,,... 3. put your steps up and around 20..... 4. lastly depending on your vram , change the image size to 576 x 1024
the flux schnell model is specifically made for low (4) steps, and the CFG is supposed to be 1
yes but that would be for cpu not gpu , those settings will still run it quicker, With a CFG of 15 thats where the vram killer lives, that needs to be 4 or 5 for optimal renders
and the flux model is trained with 576 x 1024
I hyper trained the dev flux base
'optimal' is subjective, and model specific, but for gpu rendering the suggested settings are as I said, based on the official flux blog post
according to what?
flux 1 and flux dev are also under trained but no where near as schenell
that model i just posted is the most trained version
I'm also curious where you found CFG somehow impacts vram usage, i've never seen that stated anywhere
right, you said that, I'm asking for some kind of documentation on that
thats why sdxl ligtning and turbo models run with cfg of 1 nad 2 quick renders and less resourses
i mean, that's not why, it's the number of steps
if your a coder you would know this its simple fact
steps also pull resourses
steps add more detail, more detail means more ram
my cfg is as low as 1.4 and its based on flux-schnell so it shouldnt need that many steps. ill try to upres a little bit, see where the limit is when it clogs up my system
no, more steps means more vram, each extra step (potentially) adds more detail
your t5 will also use more ram ie fp8 or fp16
the 'detail' of an image is not resource specific
omg
schnell is just a filtered down version of the pro version, the huge flux model
im an ai developer for nearly 15 years and a profesional programmer for 20 plus years. i know what im talking about
no, you are clearly not or you write it down the wrong way
yes noedel

change the settings to what i suggested and see what happens bud
I'm just asking for documentation because everything you're saying is not what is officially suggested or what everyone else has documented
So either you're just spouting BS and using your model and 'proof' or you found something no one else has discovered
I'm inclined to believe the former tbh
take a look at my settings in that
and that prompt is the hardest to get correct till flux landed
i've seen something similar posted in the #sd3 channel
four bottles lined up on a table. from left to right, they are numbered "4" then "3" then "1" then "2". from left to right, they are red, blue, green, and orange. the background is a nightclub with a neon sign that says "Dream Diffusion".
Steps: 27, Sampler: Euler, Schedule type: Simple, CFG scale: 1, Distilled CFG Scale: 5, Seed: 1620423764, Size: 576x1024, Model hash: faf2118042, Model: Dream_Diff_Flux_V1, Version: f2.0.1v1.10.1-previous-297-g5fb67f49, Module 1: t5xxl_fp8_e4m3fn
the full set up
yes that was advertised by stabilty.ai as the prompt they said sd3 would do as no sdxl model could ever get that right
this is also the #🍥|anime channel, colored bottles are trivial, show us some perfectly genned wifus
I'm sure you can figure it out with all your extensive experience
i want that image you posted , post the settings here
we can compare that way like for like
you sure are asking alot... hmmm
to early for that
thats looks nice
solo, child, fox ears, long white hair, twintails, pink eyes, smile, hearts, close-up, hoodie, kneeling, outside
cool thanks ill test now and post the image
would you class it under anime, chibi, kawaii as i dont use these much
anime
thnx! i've adjusted my workflow
your welcome
I couldn't get results I liked in schnell... nf4 and dev working better for me, though obviously take significantly longer.
I guess there's an nf4 v2 out now, but not sure if it's any good or just sketchy junk.
flux is slow and needs some good finetuning before it's reasonable to use for most anime stuff
id pretty much say schenell is good if you run CPU rather than a GPU
prompt adherence is pretty much it's only benefit right now
random flux dev image
prompt adherence is pretty much it's only benefit right now...... and thats what makes it the best allround model
adherance is what every ai model has been ever trying to acheive
it's nowhere near the 'best' for making what i make, so i'll disagree with that
we're not here for the science, we're here for the cute anime girls
thats basically saying you cant prompt very well
as flux will with the right prompt output any style
and that's one hell of an assumption coming from some rando that joined today
get it to replicate my previous image style then
basically.... you could have just flux in your list of checkpoints and acheive any output you wanted
i did a few styles if you scroll up
but im simply only using your prompot you gave me
i'm not talking about a few styles, or 100 different styles, you said it could do any style, so i want my style
because if it can't do it, then it's not the best
which is a basic prompt doesnt even prompt the style of art in your prompt
solo, child, fox ears, long white hair, twintails, pink eyes, smile, hearts,, hoodie, kneeling, outside, hands on hips, tongue out
mrtarou is the artist from my prompt
the model knows it wants anime from the general wording
as some models will only render that prompt as realistic
solo, child, fox ears, long white hair, twintails, pink eyes, smile, hearts,, hoodie, kneeling, outside, but your prompt didnt state the artist mrtarou
because it wasn't important, and flux doesn't know what it means
thats the difference between a undertrained model and a correctly trained model
if you want the actual full prompt, here
mrtarou, solo, (child:1.2), petite, thin, fox ears, long white hair, twintails, (tilted head:1.2), pink eyes, score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, source_anime, smug, close-up, hoodie,
the point is i didnt have the artist and generated the same style do you get what im saying?
no, the point is you said it can do any style, so i gave you a style to replicate
mrtarou, solo, (child:1.2), petite, thin, fox ears, long white hair, twintails, (tilted head:1.2), pink eyes, score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, source_anime, smug, close-up, hoodie, thats apony model prompt
well your using a bad version of pony if your output looks like that from your prompt. the pony checkpoint you are using is lame
oh, i didn't ask for your opinion, i asked for you to prove what you said
now go use your same prompt on my properly trained pony model https://tensor.art/models/751621497568661037/PONY-Dream-Diffusion-By-DICE-v1
I like what i get from this model with that prompt, flux can not replicate it
flux matched it with no required help. and your image wasnt the same propmt as you gave me
therefor, this is currently my 'best'
i'm not concerned about what someone else thinks is best unless it's functionally actually better
and your model with 2 downloads isn't likely to convince me, though the pony one might get closer than the flux one since it's pony based
you gave me this prompt solo, child, fox ears, long white hair, twintails, pink eyes, smile, hearts, close-up, hoodie, kneeling, outside but your render was made with this prompt mrtarou, solo, (child:1.2), petite, thin, fox ears, long white hair, twintails, (tilted head:1.2), pink eyes, score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, source_anime, smug, close-up, hoodie,
2 completely different prompts
i'm aware
good bye
you didn't need the extra information to make a 'better image' in anime style, you just wanted a prompt
🤷♂️ i guess proving your claims is too hard
too bad flux is too big for my 4gvram 😦
and only 7.2 gb of cpu 😦
i can't even load it on cpu
I feel my privilege saying it's slow on my 4090, but compared to sdxl/pony it's horribly slow
4-6x slower (on a 4090), mostly generic looking images (for anime) and the actual pixel for pixel quality (objective, not subjective) isn't really that great
lots of potential with it's superior prompt adherence, but it's not there yet and not even close to being the 'best' for anything people actually functionally use it for
lol i can see your GPU and its no RTX 4090. Who you trying to kid
you can?
and
omg, are you hacking me?
its enbarrasing
keep coping man
and?
your full of bs
hey dice, be nice
your not running a 4090, your running a potatoe pc
i am nice
whatever it takes to convince yourself
send the image i sent
i'm obviously not running windows you troll
but you can search this channel to find one i posted when i was
or ill reverse search that post and make you look even more redic
that is not nice
oh so your running linux?
if your on linux its the same process to get to your dedicated ram info
it's not, but i already posted the screenshot
slide into your ubantu manager
ubantu isn't a thing, nor do i use it
i give up, crack on with your BS
be mad
mr nice guy ...
stop slating models people make for free for you to use and ill stop calling you out on your bs
i mean, i don't care
do you have any models you have made that are not merges?
not publicly released
lol ofc was expecting a answer along those lines
haven't needed to make my own since sdxl came out, it's a waste of time
so what model have you made that you resorted to using pony instead
you wouldnt know where to start with a check train
well i said i havent trained anything since before sdxl, so... what's your point?
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but your happy to use others work is the point
that's the point of them releasing it, yeah
i didn't "slate" anything, you're just getting your panties in a twist because i'm not falling for your crap
so your saying you trained a sd1.5 checkpoint?
yeah
ok 1 simple question for you
what did you use to train the check point and what coding lan did you use?
chop chop
i used kohya
fuck off
got the results i wanted, and that was it
laters
sorry, not playing your "i'm better than you" game, I don't care
you showed up out of nowhere telling everyone their images are bad and they need to use your settings and your models with nothing to back it up and then claim to be some amazing model developer and posting links to your model with 2 downloads, then start claiming I'm the one spouting BS?
you have obviously heard people saying training with kohya ..... koyha is for loras ya muppet
i never once said images are bad
not even in my nature
read up i was praising there renders

(modern anime style, flat colors, lines:0.65), solo, sexy woman, fox ears, long white hair, twintails, pink eyes, smile, hearts, close-up, hoodie, kneeling, outside
this is with some other styles , cfg 3 and steps 10... using that ext dantaggen. wow
haha
that ext adds alot of details
flux
🙈
ack
dammit
was the one withthe actual breakfast , didn't mean to delte
haha turned clipskip to 3, steps to 10 and cfg to 5..
slightly pinup-ish... (made in invoke with counterfeit + atomix anime XL for upscaling)
I'm worried about their spines.
these were made within leonardo ai, with their anime XL model... if anybody is curious
I guess young anime ppl are quite bendy...

Neat. Do some widescreen ones. 😄
bonus points for 3840x1600
more animeXL
I will as soon as I get 4k screen... still working on fullHD...
your prompting looks interesting
got a few "tricks" that work usually...
I've been messing around mostly with flux recently
I heard it's quite nice. I wouldn't mind a update on resolution and IQ of my models, but with 6gb vram i'll stick to older ones. for now...
man I hate the time it takes to switch between models 😦
That's why working with older models on my own pc and with new stuff online works best for me ;p

noice
I have made a dataset for anime "screencap style" anyone can use without restraints (I want to see a flux lora finetune on this!)
AnimeScreenshots.zip
captions designed for flux
If you train a flux lora on this pls @ me :)

interesting 😄
with these other extension's going it's taking 5 mins per generation
but giving interesting results
changed settngs, not taking so long hmmms
with a little help of flux, but with sd15 refine step
can`t see pillow 
elves... made with leo anime xl
this is better 
her during day vs her during night
oh , ok 😀
actually they are probably differnet person cos of their eyes color 
doesnt matter


i suppose that's one of the pleasures in knowing how to cook
yeah 
No

Contact lens
for leonardo anime xl, are you putting anything in the prompt to call out the sharp line anime style? I'm trying it out and it's on that model, but it's not looking like what you did.
now thats a franken truck
finally kinda anime japanese
wow
seems to like blond-ish hair
there we go thats better
so is anyone alive today? or just me?
I'm alive
me too
hope all are having a good day
just waiting for some news about anything. we haven't had a new anime model in ages ;_;
give me a pic
/girl
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ok that got random
1, 2.. wtf
o...k
hmm no better not
grr what is it with the closed eyes? oi
anyhooo....
nite
I use lots of different descriptive words in my prompts, but simplest way probably: try adding colorpop, or soft pastel element (leonardo's own loras, 20-40% is usually enough). I just tried it on simple prompt, and here's the difference:
holographic colorpop
soft Line's , holographic colorpop, overlapping shades of light, blocky background
Angy

there we go
hmm, maybe i have to use the paid service, as this is what i'm getting with colorpop and the soft pastel element. maybe it would sharpen up with the quality setting turned on.
ok i feel like i'm getting somewhere with "Cute and simple anime flat illustration style." but i'm also finding it depends heavily on what's in the image.
Depending on the model training that’s fairly typical. Certain keywords can be over trained and will affect the image results
For example, “a girl” might produce a girl with short brown hair and brown eyes by default , but “a girl, blonde” will add blue eyes and larger breasts just because of the source material used
hmm that would explain why I get the same girl depending on the model. hmmms
tries a different tack.. racially diverse young woman
If you look at the last few images I’ve posted, there’s a pretty big quality difference, especially in the backgrounds, between the long white hair fox girl and the short blue haired elf
For some reason the combo of blue hair and pointy ears makes the model a lot more creative with colors, clothing designs, and backgrounds. The rest of the prompts are basically the same
yeah... i tried some anime stuff with their new phoenix model which is more prompt following, but it looks like it doesn't really know anime much at all. so i guess the ideal would be their anime model that's of phoenix quality.
ok that change does help
I need to think more outside whats normal to get different
leonardo / flux with flat color anime lora
simliar but different
there we go chibi
haha
hmm interesting effect
i did not prompt for speech bubble
I am loving the dantaggen Ext
what? I like my popsicle...
hmm can't seem to get her to be made of light
ponders
glowing skin?
like this
wierd but ok

🌚
wwwwpoooow
goes nuts , stackes ext styles and MORE
tries to break it
hmmm ok..
hmmmmm
oooh
random mode +9k
see...
I go random and it makes art....
puts them under water
hmm can't break it
ok fuk it, 51 card pickup!
clipskip 6 makes things wierd
but kinda nice too
clip skip 2
1 more and going back to bed, hopefully to sleep
clipskip 12
Thank you 🙏🙏

naruto! #🍥|anime
anime naruto
naruto #🍥|anime
two girls in landspace! #🍥|anime
there is not a bot here, stop
wow how can i use it
@bitter latch can you tech me how can i generate pectures
like yours
good style.. but branches in hats....
I'm just using a bunch of styles with upscale prompt extenions 😄 , very random
but I like it
well it doesn't look too bad...
The style is reminiscent of old comics.
yep cause the first style I used was my retro anime new style 😄
changes models and vae
every once in a while it does eyes closed. odd
goes and turns up the cute factor
I took out all styles 😄 just to see what it would do
wtf