🍥｜anime

[supple raptor]

yes, and I looked at them. it's neat, like i said.

[unkempt cape]

Ok explain why the hell they would put that as 4o's capabilities when it's another model generating

Is it that 4o can perfectly describe a face in words?

[supple raptor]

because gpt-4o is still responsible for the vision part of it.

[unkempt cape]

So it's pretty much img2img

Idc if its not literally so (which it is)

it does the same thing

[supple raptor]

notice under model evaluations that it does not show any evaluations for image generation performance. it only shows vision understanding evals

[unkempt cape]

how do you evaluate image generstions. and even if its not it does the same thing

[supple raptor]

in other words you can show it a picture of a banana and it's more likely than all of the other models tested to recognize it as a banana.

[unkempt cape]

i dont really care tbh

it has that ability, I can give it a picture and the website spits out a picture of the same style or same person inside the picture

[supple raptor]

image generation evaluations include prompt adherence and visual quality of the output.

image generation evaluation is a lot easier and more reliable than text output evaluation tbh

[unkempt cape]

Ok I still very much believe it has pic gen output. And even if it's not like I said it does the same thing

Very cool stuff

[supple raptor]

in the sense that you can ask GPT-4o to generate an image and you will recieve an image, yes. however that image is being generated by Dalle-3 just as it currently is when you ask GPT4-Turbo to generate an image. text model reworks your request into what it considers to be an ideal prompt for the image model, then sends that to the image model (Dalle-3) which spits out the actual image.

[bitter latch]

angy chibi inttrupts with a boot to the head

[unkempt cape]

No? You can input an image in too. That's the cool thing

[bitter latch]

sighs. blah tech spam isn't anime

[unkempt cape]

Dall e 3 can't. Turbo can give you a prompt that maybe close but never the exact face for example

4o can

[supple raptor]

yes, and in this case the vision model looks at the image and considers that along with your text prompt when generating the prompt that will be sent to Dalle-3

[bitter latch]

oooh she more angy

[unkempt cape]

So you are telling there is a prompt that perfect describe my face, not only that, dall e 3 listens to it 100%

Well aint that even more impressive

[bitter latch]

no.. it's boring

and still not anime

😄

[supple raptor]

with enough attempts at generation, yeah probably. a face really isn't all that hard to describe.

[unkempt cape]

capabilities wise at least then stuff looks like this

D3: Text -> Image
Turbo: Image of your face -> Text -> Image of not your face
4o: Image of your face -> whatever -> Image of your face

[unkempt cape]

Ok 💀

[unkempt cape]

Man actually telling me that you can copy any one's face on dall e 3 as long as I have the prompt for it

[supple raptor]

we've had humans who's entire job is to create a sketch of the suspect of a crime based on a witnesses description for at least decades. a computer that's been given vision being able to make the description shouldn't be that surprising.

[bitter latch]

now you done it

I really should be in bed

hmmm no

[unkempt cape]

Omfg this is ridiculous. Not to mention, Dall e 3 doesnt follow prompts that well

[supple raptor]

that's largely because it doesn't use your prompt. it uses the prompt that gpt4-turbo made based on your prompt

[supple raptor]

that's why you can get the dog on some attempts with a prompt and not on others without changing your prompt. because sometimes gpt makes a prompt that the filters then decide isn't allowed.

[bitter latch]

ok there we go

goes to bed

thuds

[bitter latch]

sleeps

[winged oasis]

beautiful art style!

[coarse brook]

Am extra sad today 😦 attempted to do a batch over night of ~300 (It has succeeded before). Apparently, it crashed, like pc crashed while i slept 😦

(300?! What the heck were you doing?!), well, i was using a wildcard plugin for many different stances, landscapes etc

SO yes, it was randomizing the positive outputs

I'm wondering if i have a memory leak somewhere, since Python can end up just using 18-25 gb of ram, after some gens

[coarse brook]

I'm starting to love wildcards, cause my butt is so imaginaton-less

[green temple]

cool

[vital raptor]

i use wildcards a lot, i use an extension called unprompted for it, it allows basically programming within the wildcard files for better control where needed

[coarse brook]

Ended up getting this tbh https://civitai.com/models/45448/full-feature-fantasy-prompts-characters?modelVersionId=243705

That one was used for all the images above

[green temple]

oh , those were wild cards ?

[coarse brook]

Yeah boi

[green temple]

cool

[coarse brook]

Cause i have 0 imagination xD

[green temple]

me too 🤣

or mabye i have some ! 👍

[coarse brook]

Now is just a matter of finding out what promts and lora's works well together xD

[vital raptor]

i have a little, at random times, but mostly i can't think of anything

[green temple]

learning from japanese sd prompts rn

[coarse brook]

Its great just sitting, staring at the screen, for 30 min, only coming up with 2 promts

[vital raptor]

i just generate the same 3 prompts for days at a time

[coarse brook]

I just put on a batch of 300, and let them gen over night xD

Until i run out of regular ram, cause Python hogs it all, and then crashes the pc overnight 💀

[vital raptor]

lol, 300 would take me ~20 minutes

[coarse brook]

300 takes me 7 hrs xD

[coarse brook]

Gib your old 3080 xD

[vital raptor]

send money

[coarse brook]

I has none 😢

[coarse brook]

MONEY!

Gosh darn it.... The wildcards are slowly moving away from anime, to more realistic

And i even have the anime lora on 😦

Me tink

And we're back

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/neko-weeb-anime-cat-ears-gif-14223405

Hey @green temple Do you happen to know of an extension that allows me to rename lora's, IN the webUI?

[green temple]

idk

[coarse brook]

HMMM

[nova remnant]

Pretty cute

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

Chin sharper than level 1 swords in mmo

[ivory pebble]

She's just on a mewing streak, but you wouldn't get it smh

[nova remnant]

true, first time I see those words

[ivory pebble]

Get with the times old man

[ivory pebble]

Beard is too small and needs more wrinkles

[coarse brook]

That tattoo, looks very nsfw

[nova remnant]

Needs to be lower 👍

Cool angle

[twilit portal]

[nova remnant]

feet

[ivory pebble]

Yes. Feet.

[nova remnant]

[ivory pebble]

[coarse brook]

RIGHT! Anyone got any face fixing stuff recommendations?

Cause this yielded me much sadness #🏞｜general-with-images message

[nova remnant]

yes

the one and only

Adetailer

just seach in the extension tab, it should be called adetailer or after detailer https://github.com/Bing-su/adetailer

believe this is the github

[coarse brook]

And then...... Lora's??

[nova remnant]

no

adetailer will inpaint, during the generation, the faces it detects at a higher resolution so details will be better

[coarse brook]

So obtain from here? https://civitai.com/search/models?sortBy=models_v9&query=adetailer ?

[nova remnant]

not sure why you would get an extension from civitai

when its in the extensions tab to just click install...

[coarse brook]

Wait, so the extension has it all?

Like an all-in-1?

[nova remnant]

you only really want the face model

[coarse brook]

Well

[nova remnant]

the others, never heard them be any good

face model comes with the extension

there are some others that come with it, not worth using I think

[coarse brook]

Right, ELI5 how i work this thing

OOoooh. Is automatic

[coarse brook]

Spoilered, cause technically not anime, but that extension worked great! :3

[nova remnant]

as long as its art it should be fine to post here

no one will hunt you down (maybe)

[coarse brook]

Upscaling the img, and jesus christ, the improvement

(Still being genned)

Heres the final img, @nova remnant 😄

[coarse brook]

Call back your hitsquad there, i spoilered the non anime pics!

[nova remnant]

adetailer works on my pc now

[green temple]

use "BREAK" in your prompt too it`s so helpful or... you dont prompt i think ? right

[nova remnant]

And I think I need a vae lmao

[coarse brook]

I didn't seem to need BREAK, running it through img2img

[primal wharf]

It's not a hit squad, it's STALKERs in some highly radioactive area.

So radioactive that she doesn't wear any gas masks or suits lol.

[half cairn]

https://tenor.com/bDOyj.gif

[coarse brook]

So shes a Child of Atom?

Or was she a regular girl, before the radiation?

[primal wharf]

Regular girl from another world. A medieval fantasy world.

[coarse brook]

I c

Makes sense then

[nova remnant]

@coarse brook What is your gpu

[coarse brook]

1080 ti xD

Why, Lil Kittycat?

[nova remnant]

steals your gpu

[coarse brook]

No. Bad cat

[nova remnant]

My adetailer is taking 2 minutes

counterfeit is cute

next one should have vae lmao

[green temple]

uncheck hires fix then

🌚

[nova remnant]

no , bad smol

[nova remnant]

double barrel sig

[primal wharf]

SIG with an AK gas system

but the gas transfer thingy is missing

[coarse brook]

Or a 2nd barrel for a small EMP charge cartrige, for the obvious mechanical threats in the wasteland..? xD

[coarse brook]

Mah webui broke 😦 Can't launch it atm. Gotta wait for Cs to be back on 😦

[nova remnant]

what is cs

[coarse brook]

Not what, but Who. CS1o 😄

[nova remnant]

@coarse brook how did it break

[coarse brook]

Idk

If i knew, I fix. But i no know, so no fix

[nova remnant]

smol

[green temple]

make her smoler

[nova remnant]

she will disappear if too smol

[green temple]

[coarse brook]

./setsize 0.001

[primal wharf]

Katana and gun

Katana out

[green temple]

perfect

[coarse brook]

Pocket... Elf? (Cause of ears)

🎶 Sitting here, just browing Lora/models, waiting for Cs to come back on 🎶 xD

[gloomy scroll]

Remember to be careful when you put your hand in pocket

[coarse brook]

I ain't got any pockets atm 😉

[ivory pebble]

Why is she eating the fork? Is she dumb?

[coarse brook]

yes

She was born llike 3 min ago

[coarse brook]

I'm bored now, 😐 Idk what to do

[nova remnant]

hi bored

me too

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-train-your-dragon-dragon-toothless-gif-2030788043187764367

[nova remnant]

kill with fire

[coarse brook]

Don't you dare hurt sweet toofless

[nova remnant]

sweet... tooth

I wonder if sd3 can gen him

[coarse brook]

Imagine begine able to gen anything atm

[nova remnant]

Do you use forge

[coarse brook]

Still can't launch my webui xD

[nova remnant]

answer me

Do you use Forge or something else

[coarse brook]

Using Auto1111

[nova remnant]

why not forge

[coarse brook]

Cuz Auto1111 was ez to install, and quick to install

And it was the first ui i ran into

[nova remnant]

forge is gooder a1111

Try it

it looks the same

but more optimized

[coarse brook]

Am fine with Auto for now

[bitter latch]

yeah I use it, way better!

[nova remnant]

I think your gpu is 11gb it should improve speed for that one

Like its literally the same UI but better speeds and vram stuff

[coarse brook]

It is 12gb, but... I also wanna be able to use my pc while its doing stuff, so capping it at 8 is fine

[nova remnant]

and the same way to install just use a different link to pull

[bitter latch]

yep yep yep

[nova remnant]

[coarse brook]

Mebbe later. Need to get auto back up first.

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

go do it

You said you were bored, make a new install on a different folder :b

[coarse brook]

No no. CS1o isn't on yet xD He be my Go-To support xD

[bitter latch]

ponders a theme of art.hmmmms

[coarse brook]

Unless... Can u guide me through each step ELI5 style?

Huh @nova remnant ? MEOW!

[bitter latch]

listens to Nightclub 80's 🕺 Retrowave Cyberpunk ✨ A Chillwave Synthwave Mix for The All Nighter

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meoooow-meow-trp-trp10-gif-18218658

[bitter latch]

https://tenor.com/8Z3M.gif

has a crazy idea

this isn't it but here...

[coarse brook]

Speaking of. U seen this adorable big shit from Palworld?

[bitter latch]

nope

[coarse brook]

Is called a "Chillet"

and is from Palworld

[bitter latch]

don't have palworld

[nova remnant]

theres a 1 button install

[nova remnant]

Step 1: download that
Step 2: click ?

[bitter latch]

step 3 profit

[coarse brook]

Step 0.5, Recieve link from a Cat

[nova remnant]

https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge

[nova remnant]

mini chillet

[coarse brook]

Now i just need to find out, how to pull stuff from a different folder than the default, so i don't need to move anything of the Lora, checkpoints or embeds i has

[bitter latch]

I just did it as a branch. one sec

[coarse brook]

... A branch?

[nova remnant]

just move all 3 folders into the new one

[coarse brook]

Bruh no

No move

[bitter latch]

should have that on there

[coarse brook]

That'll end up taking 3 hrs. @nova remnant

I backup my Lora's on a near daily basis...

[nova remnant]

moving should be super quick

[coarse brook]

Nop

[coarse brook]

Slow as fuk

[nova remnant]

Copying is what would take a while

are you on a 2005 pc or something

Its instant if its on the same drive

[coarse brook]

I mean, yes.

The drive might as well be

[nova remnant]

why you using a hd

[bitter latch]

cause s soft drive means it melted?

[coarse brook]

Huehueheu

No. Cuz harddrives was expensive, when i built this pc

So i used my previous drives

Which were also previous, in the previous pc

[bitter latch]

I have mine on a external SSD

[coarse brook]

I TRIED having mine on my external.... But that took 8 min just to load 1 checkpoint

[bitter latch]

works just fine

with forge it's much quicker to load to another model

unless you mean move from HD to HD

[coarse brook]

Still need to figure out how to do the thingymabob

[ivory pebble]

Tbh I think Forge would be better for you in that case since it has better VRAM/RAM optimization, but you do you

[coarse brook]

We'll see.

Got Forge up and running now

[nova remnant]

already

literal pro at this

[coarse brook]

1000/1000 interweb connection

[ivory pebble]

Don't know what it is like for other people but I saw people were saying it was better than A1111. I tried it out and it tripled my generation speed, might not be the same for everyone however

[coarse brook]

wait... @nova remnant ... This mean i need to Re-DL adetailer etc again?

[coarse brook]

Ancient pc, so we'll see 😄

[nova remnant]

I think it comes with extensions

controlnet net and stuff

might also have adetailer

[coarse brook]

No ADetailer

[nova remnant]

grab adetailer then on the extensions tab

[ivory pebble]

I think it's gonna be worth it in that case, it's supposed to work better with lower end GPU's

[coarse brook]

"Lower end": pfffft

[nova remnant]

@coarse brook x3

[coarse brook]

It WAS high end, when it was new

[ivory pebble]

Not anymore! Get with the times old man

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/get-off-my-lawn-gif-21962679

[ivory pebble]

Ugle

[nova remnant]

make a better one

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-cute-eating-watermelon-gif-23438238

[ivory pebble]

I'm not obsessed I swear..

[coarse brook]

YOu just don't have a keyboard, and can't change the promts

[nova remnant]

lmao

[ivory pebble]

I generate from my phone so I'm too lazy to change the prompts not gonna lie 😭

[coarse brook]

I c. Illuminati keeps your promts the same to train THEIR AI to mess with u

[ivory pebble]

As long as I get my waifus with cool looking swords and armor they can do whatever they want

[coarse brook]

https://civitai.com/models/281308/chillet-palworld

[ivory pebble]

On a side note, it's genuinely amazing just how consistent NAI is with generating accurate character outfits

[bitter latch]

changes to a furry anime merge model

rawr

[nova remnant]

[bitter latch]

ooh no . I can not post this.. hides it

hmm nah

CAT LIZARD GIRL -HISS -RAWR

:

oops did I kill chat?

[coarse brook]

Still trying to fix my webui xD

[bitter latch]

hmm ok...

[bitter latch]

leather sundress

😄

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[bitter latch]

hmm suppose to a be a head pat..

[nova remnant]

Why dont you hires

[bitter latch]

shrugs

[nova remnant]

but ugly

[gloomy scroll]

I guess this wall is girl

[nova remnant]

1wall, solo...

[coarse brook]

Didn't know there was a promt for an irish girl in the snow, with pompoms

I HAVE MY WEBUI BACK! WOO!

[terse ore]

Using blender, I made a screenshot of an anime character in a setting. I then put it through img2img and got this:

[coarse brook]

That reminds me of a C animated movie xD

C or B

[terse ore]

I zoomed in, in blender and made a close up render of the face. This kept the same angle but the face larger. That allowed the SDXL controlnet to maintain the composition of the face (if I did it direct, then the expression is not maintained). I put the render in img2img again and removed background and got this:

Finally, I overlay the face output on top of the background output and line it up the best I can. Then I manually erase things like the T-shirt along the collar from the face image and hair that sticks out from the background image. It gives this:

[terse ore]

Yes I improved by workflow to make it look more 2d (I added lineart style in blender and so change the model and some nodes and prompt), this is only for the solution how to use accurate SDXL controlnet for the face too.

That's why I didn't fix the image 100% and also why I left the hands messed up. With this the demonstration shows a workflow for manga can be made

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-inside-job-good-job-well-done-netflix-gif-23666562

[terse ore]

Inpainting or something can be made to fix hands and such. Also with Segment Anything+ Grounding Dino it's possible to get fast and accurate masking on anything you want in the image, such as red T-shirt. Then you can denoise it specifically to add more details like more folds and things. I kept the colors simple here to be more consistent and also because it's not important at this point

This is the original blender render btw

I have changed my workflow now to also be more consistent. For example I use the comfyUI node iterative upscale with pixelk upscale. So first I put the blender render in regular img2img but no upscaling, only style change. Then when I get what I like, I do the upscale process

[nova remnant]

zan going insane with that one blender picture

[terse ore]

The background image I used BluePencil XL because I made it a whole before. But the face I did with anima pencil X. But now I only use anima pencil XL. Anima is a mix of BluePencil and Animagine 3. BluePencil is good with img2img but not 2d looking. Animagine is good to generate 2d images but img2img ability is very bad. So anima is the perfect model for me. Also, because it does 2d, it's so much easier to edit manually even with bad drawing skills. I only used a mouse to fix it, no drawing tablet. If you zoom in where the collar meets the skin you can see the manual adjustments

To show what I changed while experimenting with workflows, this is a render in blender. You can notice there is lineart generated inside of blender itself. This gives it a more 2d look but still very 3d. Somewhat like a webtoon

With img2img style change but not changing the image size i get this:

Then with upscale it looks like this:

Or the other way around I can't remember lol. But I did not do maximum canny controlnet power. Maybe I should do that because you can see some small structural differences. But anyway you get the idea. I used this type of image because it is more complex so I thought it would be better to do that to a more difficult image so I know it can work or not

[alpine epoch]

Game art in the making...

Good stuff.

[bitter latch]

I did not prompt for the mouth

[coarse brook]

I mean... It is a fox girl. Maybe she be eating something with long legs?

Also if anyone is good with promts, i asked a question i #📝｜prompting-help 😄

[bitter latch]

Model childrenstories_v1customer: prompt: pop art, vector art style , eyes and ears, invisible background

entered random mode

https://tenor.com/br8y9.gif

[gloomy scroll]

Is (something:1.3) random enough?

[bitter latch]

oooooh

updates avatar

oh it gets better

hmm tho not pink

snowcre?

very anime-ish? yes?

oooh

2 faces or 3?

[nova remnant]

something smug

@lyric zealot smuggered

[nova remnant]

[coarse brook]

When u r trying to create a badass looking warrior.... But no matter your promt, the AI won't cover the tits

[bitter latch]

thats much better

hmm looks like a hero?

or the villian?

[coarse brook]

Looks safe, ye? NOP! Next preview: BOBS IN YOUR FACE!

[bitter latch]

bob?

[coarse brook]

Bobs, Boobs, Boobies, Tittes

[bitter latch]

ya know boobs upside down is poop

[nova remnant]

do rating safe on positive

and dont prompt for them...

[coarse brook]

What is cmd for dat?

[nova remnant]

rating_safe or rating safe

its just a pony thing

[coarse brook]

Am not promting for em to be shown 😦

[coarse brook]

But the rating_safe, rating safe, whatever the promt, worked 😄

Nvm. DIdn't work once i got into img2img 😦

[nova remnant]

What is your prompt

[coarse brook]

Most likely Skill_Issue. I forgor to change denoizing

Is guchi now. It work

[bitter latch]

huh.. lcm karras

ok more anime , finally

lower steps and lower cfg and it gets wild!

[jagged field]

This is really cute ❤️

[bitter latch]

thanks

there my new av here, a angry snarling panda Snow Leopard, yeah the zen munk panda kitty lost his cool when news BS over-rode his tiktok feed.. grrrrr

[lyric zealot]

[coarse brook]

Major panik folks. I have an image that's being genned.20 steps... It's stuck 19/20 done, but only 5% on the first step

But the preview looks amazing.

Hoping it doesn't crash... If it does, I do have a screenshot of the blurry preview

Both vram and regular ram is sitting locked in at 95% use atm

It's struggling

RIP, what could've been

[nova remnant]

@coarse brook rate my waifu gen

[nova remnant]

you're denoising way too hard

Are you on 0.8 or something

do 0.35 to 0.5

more than that is Unecessaurus

[nova remnant]

In the end of the generation is when the vae is being applied and its the slowest, so pretty normal to get stuck making you sweat 👍

[coarse brook]

Well, first of all, it hadn't actually finished rendering/genning, cause it crashed

And i don't really do img2img atm, cause i actually like the glitchy look 😄

[coarse brook]

Time to spend the next 6 hrs converting her from a 2D drawing, to a fully fledged AI character

Vae... Isn't that only when you do have vae's installed? Cause i never knew what they are, so i never really looked into them

[nova remnant]

models have vaes in them usually

otherwise you'd be looking at bleached images basically

[coarse brook]

I c. Well, my Rule of Thumb is usually when an additional 60 sec has been added to the timer, its a sign it has frozen xD

[nova remnant]

[coarse brook]

Cause it adds a second, every like 10 sec

[nova remnant]

I'm talking about hires

[coarse brook]

I don't use hires xD

[nova remnant]

not the img2img tab if you think that

its good, use it

1.5 hires does good work

[coarse brook]

What does it do besides upscaling the resolution?

[nova remnant]

basically makes the image better

small details clearer and stuff

using the lower res image as base

[bitter latch]

ok loving this new model I found, mostly for furry but new vae too so it works.. now what shall I try to make?

tries smugpunk

hahaq love it

MIKU BUNNY

smug rabbit

somehow.. I don't trust her

yawns

[bitter latch]

hehe

sorry didn't mean to hog the posting

merges the new model in with some older mixes :D

bakes in a VAE

tries same prompt with new merge

it works

rawr?

goes back to bed... thud

[coarse brook]

I seem to have found a fix for the "stuck at 98%, but console reads 100%.

Open a new tab, (On the same window, and go to new tab), wait a few sec
Click on the WebUI cmd window. press enter a few times. Wait for new activity to occour. Press enter a few times again, and that should have cleared up the gen xD

[green temple]

what does "//" mean in the prompt >

?

stole a prompt

[bitter latch]

prompted for miku hatsune there but.. well.. wtf?

ahh there she is

sigh, hate it when I can't sleep even tho i'm exhausted

[bitter latch]

your prompts are very long

[green temple]

i know

[bitter latch]

and seems the end result isn't the prompt

medium view, Standing, 1girl, solo, (kawaii :1) (beautiful detailed skin : 1.2) (finely detailed beautiful hands)

beautiful detailed white hair, fox ears of fur, pink hoodie, green eyes,

beautiful detailed girly room, curtains, wall, wardrobe, art by Akihito Tsukushi lora:more_details:1

tho I am using a merge of anime furry and another model to get that 😄

i'm gonna go pass out now.. thud

but before I do.

[green temple]

yes

i`m still learning

[bitter latch]

changed it up

-waves good night- even tho it's daytime. 😄

[nova remnant]

Learning how to smol

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-daniel-stahl-sweden-nbc-olympics-discus-throw-gif-22949868

[nova remnant]

Cute ears

[bitter latch]

why do they come out looking smug?

[nova remnant]

wait no

one for each

[vital raptor]

only 2? i see 4..

[nova remnant]

[alpine epoch]

idk

[vital raptor]

😄

[wet elm]

yoo what model is that

[nova remnant]

NAI

from paid service

[wet elm]

damn NAI really evolved then

[nova remnant]

Looks the same as always

with more booba this time

👍

[queen void]

[vital raptor]

you're about to get mugged

[steady grail]

Give me an Head pat or get Mugged!

[gloomy scroll]

[gloomy scroll]

You wouldn't do something like that in front of this cutie?

[ivory pebble]

Here's another one

[steady grail]

i wonder

[ivory pebble]

It doesn't matter how much I try to lower the size of them they're just always big lmfao 😭

[steady grail]

the model is biased

[ivory pebble]

I mean that's how big they are in the anime/games so I guess it makes sense but still 😭

[steady grail]

yeah, but she doesn't have that bee belly

[nova remnant]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{small breasts}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

[ivory pebble]

I'm not complaining tho

[nova remnant]

kek

[steady grail]

xl model?

[nova remnant]

thats nai

its probably the artists being used

that only draw such big things

[steady grail]

oh, nai

it draws good swords

[ivory pebble]

What's funny is, the artists I use don't even draw swords (as far as I know)

[steady grail]

the mugger got here head pat, now is time for the next victim

head pats are never enough

[nova remnant]

I think they impact more on body type than what they are doing

its more of what they do anyway

[ivory pebble]

She does, specifically this outfit of hers

[steady grail]

guys, what's the booru most of the anime models are based?

[ivory pebble]

Danbooru I'm pretty sure

[vital raptor]

dan

[ivory pebble]

That's where I go to search for prompts for NAI/Pony

[steady grail]

now that i remember, the game had that style

the anime is a little different

[ivory pebble]

Yup, but still it is quite impressive how good the weapons look with their art style

[steady grail]

ty

[ivory pebble]

Still takes quite a few rerolls to get an accurate pose, but that's mainly cause I maxed out the token limit cause of her ridiculous outfit 😭

[steady grail]

nai can BREAK?

[ivory pebble]

Not sure, haven't tested it out

[steady grail]

i try a thing

[ivory pebble]

Imma try out her other outfit/weapon, it's much cooler

[nova remnant]

what about without them

You can send it to me for a free review 👍

[nova remnant]

cute elf

bright painting lmao

[steady grail]

you got your bright painting and dry elf

who can draw the sword, will become king of britain

[vital raptor]

forgot the chokers in the prompt with the last one

[steady grail]

eheheh

[vital raptor]

sometimes i really like when regional prompter messes up 😄

[ivory pebble]

Unironically had a couple of gens with that and I had no idea why until I realized I had "uncensored" in my prompts, didn't know it did that without other prompts but it makes sense I guess

Does anyone know if there's another word for a polearm? I can't generate this dumbass weapon 😭

[steady grail]

lance?

partisan?

[vital raptor]

You can try naginata, lance, spear

[steady grail]

pointy stick?

[ivory pebble]

Ah yes, of course, how did I not think of this 😭

[ivory pebble]

Yup, lance seems to do the trick

[steady grail]

not what i had in mind

but cute

i don't like this model

[nova remnant]

lmao

[steady grail]

looks like unsing nirmally break to gen first a bg and than the character is a bad idea

you get a fantastic bg, but bad characters 😦

why i need to add portrait to get something decent?

[ivory pebble]

Portrait is one of my favorite prompts honestly

[steady grail]

adds so many details to the image

[ivory pebble]

Finally got this stupid weapon to work

[nova remnant]

Big armor

[steady grail]

without it, i just get blobs

[nova remnant]

Cx

[steady grail]

i wonder how it works on comfy

[ivory pebble]

Yup, her full set has some sort of lion headgear but it looks nicer this way honestly

[nova remnant]

Who needs head protection anyway

[rough oxide]

i'd blame it on whatever model you're using. i never use the word portrait in any of my gens; the better models don't need like 2 paragraphs of text to make work usually.

[ivory pebble]

Pretty much yeah, it all comes to down to what model you're using

[steady grail]

yeah, the double paragraph was an experiment to gen a detailed bg and a good character, like i do on comfy

but still, without portrait, the result is meh

not too good, but still passable

[ivory pebble]

Try adding fighting stance to your prompt

[steady grail]

let's see

[ivory pebble]

Just her standing there like that looks a bit too stiff

[steady grail]

yeah, not caring about the stens, it's the face that is alway so lacking

[ivory pebble]

fighting stance, attack, slashing, those prompts usually give better composition, but then again it all comes down to what model you're using as always

[steady grail]

compared to when adding portrait

[ivory pebble]

Try using ADetailer, that should fix it

[steady grail]

i suppose i should use it again

[ivory pebble]

If you're on Comfy idk what ADetailer is called there but I know there's a version for that as well

[steady grail]

but first i try on comfy

forge is not my thing

[rough oxide]

nmever mentioned face details in these ones and they come out fine

[ivory pebble]

What I like to do sometimes is, I generate with NovelAI and then img2img with Pony/AutismMix, might work with other models as well

[rough oxide]

hands r another issue but those can be fixed with inpaints

[ivory pebble]

I love that anime style, looks amazing

[ivory pebble]

I usually just fix them with photoshop 😭, I think it's much faster, but that works as well

[rough oxide]

if ur gud enough at mimicing the hand-drawn style lol

that is

the style the hand is drawn in

[ivory pebble]

Shouldn't be too difficult

[rough oxide]

lol realized i wasn't even using masterpiece, best quality stuff for these ones

[ivory pebble]

But then again if the hand is completely mangled then yeah, Inpainting is much faster

[ivory pebble]

Not bad, I'm guessing the results weren't that good without the portrait prompt

[steady grail]

yep

[coarse brook]

Mmmm warriors

[coarse brook]

Thats the.... ehm.... Something something armor Lora, ye?

[coarse brook]

Ok there frendough. What checkpoint and lora u used for that style?

[steady grail]

nah, i don't use lora

[coarse brook]

Go on. What u use then? Ideally links too xD

Plz no Nai

[nova remnant]

Pony

[steady grail]

hotarulab

[nova remnant]

[coarse brook]

Mmmm Pony

[nova remnant]

Put a cat in your profile picture

It'll make your gens better

[coarse brook]

https://civitai.com/models/439260/hotarulabs

[coarse brook]

I tried to Anime-Fy my cat... But i couldn't figure out how! 😦

[gloomy scroll]

Nai

[coarse brook]

No nai! REE

[nova remnant]

Use controlnet

[coarse brook]

Here. Go animefy the cat only

[rough oxide]

same here with Nai

nai is just top tier for now.

[coarse brook]

Nai is $$$

[rough oxide]

i'm pretty sure i actually save money using nai cuz my monthly pc electricity usage lmao

[nova remnant]

@coarse brook go shopping for art style loras if you want a different look x3

[steady grail]

almost

https://civitai.com/models/439260?modelVersionId=489639

[nova remnant]

Famous double horizon

[coarse brook]

I am

But shopping for free ones

[nova remnant]

Civitai your best friend

[gloomy scroll]

Don't mind the background I totally wasn't too lazy to change prompt

[coarse brook]

Its not 😐

Its a friend, but not best

I type too fast for the search bar, and that triggers me immensely

[nova remnant]

cat entered the adventurer guild

[steady grail]

i didn't prompt a double horizon, that's laputa <.<

[bitter latch]

the Pu**Y cat?

[nova remnant]

Civitai search is horrendous

[alpine epoch]

PuTTY

[bitter latch]

im2img

[rough oxide]

yea i only find out about new civitai models by reading metadatas from interesting images, or it having been mentioned somewhere i follow

[coarse brook]

Ye. Have to type 1letter at the time, wait for it to search for the word + that letter

[alpine epoch]

So is HuggingFace's

[coarse brook]

No no

HuggingFaces UI is horrendous

[rough oxide]

you usually land on huggingface links from somewhere else to be fair

[nova remnant]

I don't even understand huggingface

Kek

You pull git from CMD or good luck

[rough oxide]

i only understand it cuz i used to upload rvc voice models there

[nova remnant]

Lmao

[alpine epoch]

I find the HF UI fine, better than Civit at least. But searching is crap, or more like, it lacks basic shit.

Civit is obviously no better.

[bitter latch]

ummm...

[coarse brook]

I mean..?

[bitter latch]

hehe

[coarse brook]

THE LEG!

[bitter latch]

inpaints whole image

[alpine epoch]

What's there not to understand?
It's just git repositories, and probably the easiest interface to git repos ever.

[nova remnant]

Everything

[coarse brook]

Pictures. We want shiny UI with pictures

[bitter latch]

cause it allows you easy access to go git it and git'er done?

[nova remnant]

If you don't use huggingface, it looks alien

[bitter latch]

https://tenor.com/O8eA.gif

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/letter-kenny-awkward-wish-you-are-not-awkward-gif-14645133

[alpine epoch]

[coarse brook]

Ok ok ok. I'm liking the outcome of this HotaruLabs model

[rough oxide]

i mean the only real difference is there's a different page for files & version than the about page? it's actually easier to download individual files off hf

[alpine epoch]

Yeah, there's like a cover page, instead of just showing the files and the README below it.
I get that it's confusing for non-techies, it's not very clear what to download and stuff

[rough oxide]

o right and hf is a necessity

because git doesn't host large files

[alpine epoch]

You mean github

[rough oxide]

ye

[rough oxide]

can we go back to tortoisesvn days?

[alpine epoch]

please no

[rough oxide]

tortoisesvn was much easier than git

[alpine epoch]

no SVN

[rough oxide]

lol

[alpine epoch]

Mercury, ok.

I used Bitbucket (and it's desktop client) for a while, not bad.

[rough oxide]

also i never realized ash blossom & joyous spring has a tail

i don't even remember what i was using svn for back then, but i used a lot of projects that required svn

[nova remnant]

ash who

[rough oxide]

the char's name is ash blossom & joyous spring

[nova remnant]

[rough oxide]

and everyone hates her

she should be banned.

she's cute tho.

[nova remnant]

looks stupid

[nova remnant]

shes t-posing on the second pick

[coarse brook]

Infamous Ender cat that only steal your slabs?

[bitter latch]

there

or not

[nova remnant]

prompt was a square hat

lmao

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/daddys-home2-daddys-home2gifs-stop-it-stop-that-i-mean-it-gif-9694318

[alpine epoch]

okay.

[coarse brook]

Ain't you gonna make my cat into something scary

[gloomy scroll]

Everything is catgirl if you are brave enough

[bitter latch]

well no but maybe

[alpine epoch]

Well I asked for creepy, not scary

[bitter latch]

cut it down to size

haha

[coarse brook]

Me wondering why my new gen takes such a long time.... Forgot to change from Batchcount 12, to 1... (Was taking bio break)

[bitter latch]

DOH was u sing wrong sampler. well thta'll do it

...... no comment

[coarse brook]

I mena, all things considered it could be a lot worse

[bitter latch]

true

[coarse brook]

She does look quite fluffy though

Which she is

Armored Tucan

[coarse brook]

Sadcat emoji indeed. Not even mah cat 😦

[steady grail]

this model is not creative enough <.<

[bitter latch]

ummm.....

[alpine epoch]

Well, I used Fill instead of Original on that one.

[nova remnant]

@coarse brook smuggiest cat in the world

[bitter latch]

AH HA! done

[coarse brook]

I could almost train an Ai, with the amount of pics i has of her xD

[steady grail]

hotarulabs is too rigid for my tastes

too bad, the artstyle was so cute

[nova remnant]

grabby

[rough oxide]

immediately got a better one

[alpine epoch]

ok im done

[coarse brook]

Rawr

[rough oxide]

shooo many cats

[steady grail]

cute

[rough oxide]

whai r males still so hard to makeee kekw

took so many inpaints on eyes and still messed up ;_;

[alpine epoch]

Just make femboys, ez.

[rough oxide]

tru.

those work without fail

[alpine epoch]

But please don't

[rough oxide]

lol

[nova remnant]

most masculine anime character ever

[rough oxide]

was just doing something related to persona 5 and thought i'd try ren amamiya, but the eyes were frustrating so i gave up. i should've used makoto instead.

one day males will get more representation in fan arts XD

[nova remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/857955668829011988/961381752805425222/kok.gif

[rough oxide]

challenge unaccepted. made a vaporeon instead.

[alpine epoch]

Whatcha doing with that peppermint? Can I have it? 😳

[rough oxide]

already consoomd.

for some reason adding the vaporeon ruins her hair, cuz it's supposed to have the lines of pink.

[coarse brook]

What are twists of pink, if not a long line of pink?

[unkempt cape]

Unrelated but feeling like my life hit a new low bruh 💀
I just pitted two chatbots GPT and Gemini against a dice throne rip off game

[rough oxide]

i think gemini just still barely edges out the lead in nearly everything, espec with latest update, but gpt4o isn't available on copilot yet

[coarse brook]

Can anyone give me an ELi5 & TLDR version, of what a Hypernetwork is..?

[unkempt cape]

Its barely smart enough to play the game

And gave me a bit of an entertaining game

[rough oxide]

ELI5:

Imagine you have a box of crayons (Stable Diffusion) that can draw anything you can think of. A Hypernetwork is like a special filter you can put on the crayons to make all your drawings look like a certain style, like a comic book or a famous painter. It doesn't change the crayons themselves, just how they color.

TL;DR:

A Hypernetwork is a small add-on for Stable Diffusion that changes the style of the images it generates, without altering the core model itself.

do people even still use hypernetworks anymore? it was a big thing for a while but i think everyone moved to loras & controlnet

[coarse brook]

I c. Fanks.

Well, I c some stuff on Civit sometimes I like the look of, but then they're marked at Hypernetworks xD Soo

I am still having major issues understand what, and how to use controlnet, in ways I seek. Most of the guides I've looked at, dabbles in more realistic images

Whereas, I'm more in the 2D, 2.5D area. Anime etc.

Such as this

[rough oxide]

as far as i understand it, controlnet's main benefit is you can set the scene using another picture as reference, so the character you make is in the same kind of pose for instance

to do things that otherwise wouldn't be possible, are hard to describe, or if you just want a hyper-specific scene

[coarse brook]

Aha

I bring forth a new question

Using Wildcards. Would this work as a combined promt?

! NOO! 😦

Everything was looking like it was going perfect. Shield orientation, hands, everything! 😦

[vital raptor]

so use the same seed and do it again

[coarse brook]

It didn't save the seed, cause it crashed generating the image 😦

[coarse brook]

But just ran the same promts again, and got this, so we can call it a happy incident

Which.... Looks very, very similar... Odd, its on random seed, and random styles.

[dapper verge]

some hunyuan refined output.

[coarse brook]

What... What is causing hair to become like this? Too strick of a CFG?

[rough oxide]

duelist of the roses was a good game.

game of thrones basically ripped it off.

[unkempt cape]

Unrelated. But currently pitting three chatbots in a dice throne rip off. I gotta sleep bruh

[rough oxide]

i still dunno wut a dice throne is

[unkempt cape]

Its a board game

[rough oxide]

i've been playing munchkin lately a lot more. probs only board game i've played in the past year aside from 100% orange juice

[unkempt cape]

Well ive not played dice throne myself

no cash bro. the only complex game ive played is here to slay that shit fire

[rough oxide]

i also definitely have trouble making ai generate anything that looks like a board game

[unkempt cape]

that looks like ygo to me

[rough oxide]

yeh, rosemi's played it a number of times & duelist of the roses was a yu-gi-oh game

[unkempt cape]

ik

[rough oxide]

i think mimikyu put the wrong costume on

[coarse brook]

Tries to make cool viking. AI gives me completely nekkid person

[rough oxide]

that's just ai in a nutshell.

[coarse brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017853838516035725.webp?size=56&quality=lossless I know 😐

[steady grail]

i made an ultra complicated workflow, till the last week, it worked perfectly, but now, it just gives me landscapes 😦

[coarse brook]

30 Gfg... It did not like that xD

Ok. Ok. Finally getting somewhere

[coarse brook]

Can you use a a lora, thats made for an older model (SD1.0), on a newer one, such as SD1.5, without any major hiccups?

[supple raptor]

There aren't any SD1.0 LoRAs. SD1.4 and SD1.5 are compatible. SD2.0 and SD2.1 are compatible. And SDXL0.9 and SDXL1.0 are compatible. These pairs are not compatible with other pairs at all with the exception of the VAE which is only cross compatible between SD1.x and SD2.x versions. SDXL can't share anything with the others.

[coarse brook]

I read it wrong. Is SDXL 1.0 😄 But If I'm using the (Screenshot), does this mean they're compatible? I strong assume so, but just wanna make sure, since my brain read it wrong

[supple raptor]

Sort of. Pony-diffusion-v6 is in fact an SDXL model, however, it was trained using silly parameters which has made it differ from the base SDXL model so much that it doesn't really work with things made for normal SDXL models. That includes things like LoRAs, Controlnets, and even merging it with other models that weren't trained from Pony. Attempting to do so will often lead to completely broken images. People who are extremely experienced at merging have tried everything to make merges with it work, and it's always a downgrade from the base models. If you want to merge it, stick with other models that are also based on Pony.

[coarse brook]

But this isn't the basic v6 model though afaik?

[supple raptor]

Yeah, I have no idea what that merge is. The name implies that it's Pony V6 merged with base SDXL which is weird and also won't work well.

[coarse brook]

I mean, its not doing a bad job

[supple raptor]

It probably isn't what the name implies that it is then. It looks like it's Pony based. If you're not frequently getting images that are nothing but colorful noise then I highly doubt it's just Pony and base SDXL merged. Unhinged filenames aren't uncommon on Civitai.

[coarse brook]

Aight. I mean, if it works, it works... Right? xD

[supple raptor]

Yep, if you're happy with the model, that's all that really matters.

[coarse brook]

Tru tru

[supple raptor]

You'll want to look for LoRAs that are specifically made for Pony to use with it for best results. You can try others, but they'll be much less likely to look good.

[coarse brook]

Oh i am, just found this neat pic, and wanted to c if i could somewhat replicate it, https://civitai.com/images/13132472.

[supple raptor]

That is a nice img. Backgrounds are a weak point for Pony so you'd probably be better off with a different model for something similar to that IMO. They show the model and LoRAs they're using in the img info if you want to try those out.

[coarse brook]

Ye, i checked

All want SDXL1.0

[supple raptor]

Yep, when it says that, then it should work with any SDXL models that aren't based on Pony.

[coarse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-12597733794800309328

[coarse brook]

:Hmm... Was wondering why a Lora i had DL'd just kept ignoring my promts... Even overwriting [[ and ((... UNTIL i checked the activation promts in its settings... I had the Lora main promt (The <LoraPack>) twice.

Whoops

[steady grail]

i'm so pissed off. the workflow is not responding as it should any more

[bitter latch]

hmm?

[steady grail]

the workflow is stright up overpowering 1 of the 2 conditioning

[bitter latch]

no clue

[steady grail]

yeah, i'm just venting

i feel like they changed something in the nodes

[steady grail]

this happens when workflows are too complex

and it's the worst weakness of comfy

[bitter latch]

must be talking about comfi ui thingy

thing a ma bob

[bitter latch]

shrugs, I tried comfi.. to many moving parts

[steady grail]

that's what i like about it

[bitter latch]

sir , reporting in it's confirmed thats not a mountain thats Godzill!

[steady grail]

holy canoli!

[bitter latch]

hmmm?

yeah that doesn't make sense

uhh oh

bbl gonna go lay back down

last one.. thud

sneaks one last one in and runs

[steady grail]

fixed

no idea what went wrong on the workflow

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpling-food-porn-chinese-food-chopsticks-dumplings-gif-13612412

@lyric zealot come look at those dumplings

smuggered

@green temple

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/aneix-aneixart-thor-love-and-thunder-thor-marvel-gif-26216319

[nova remnant]

@green temple

:< have skull too with smol

[green temple]

no problem if skull with smol but not with big 👍 😶

[nova remnant]

Why is there a girl on your "2birds, multiple birds" gen

[wooden sail]

Here, fixed

[nova remnant]

x3