🍥｜anime

[nova remnant]

I'm already on a diet

But SD too?

[brittle rampart]

this is all only for you!

[nova remnant]

[zinc flax]

No

[nova remnant]

Cx

Kinda cool

[vestal crypt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1041682785418629125/1235572581713842266/00011.png?ex=6634dc23&is=66338aa3&hm=cc98e7fb5331ed23da4828754f10693a9f593459ec0d906d7b11d6793e1e2770&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=663&height=663

[gloomy scroll]

Not bikini armor so can't be good armor

[unkempt cape]

Anyone currently have novel ai?

I wanna know if it can do complex concepts or not say

say somenody holding a knife like just stabbed somebody

[vital raptor]

autism can do it, so i'd assume nai can

[unkempt cape]

yeah currently the finetunes of sdxl are usually

either u get the styles, but 0 ability to create something that's not in the dataset, or you don't get the styles

[vital raptor]

i mean, you always have 0 ability to create something not in the dataset

but, that's what loras are for, they extend the dataset

[junior quest]

captain, got a dataset, trying to create a lora, hmm always stuck oh so slow(for 1step it gets like 1.5-2mintues), can you try it with your own parameters?

now I cant figure out what settings should I input

[unkempt cape]

Technically if that was the case you will be able to create nothing

Guess what i mean is like the ability to interpret a bit of new things

[vital raptor]

a model can't make new things, it can only piece together what it knows

if a model doesn't know what a knife is, or what it looks like when someone is holding it, that model will never produce an image with that

training a model is basically feeding it information so it knows what things are, but they can only 'know' a certain amount

so, you train a lora for a specific set of knowledge and apply it to a model that doesn't know (or knows very little)

it's also really bad at context, because it can't think for itself, so it might know what a knife looks like but it doesn't know it's called a knife so you can't tell it to show one

or, it knows a different name

[unkempt cape]

ye

[vital raptor]

if you still can't find a model or model + lora combo that does what you want out of the hundreds available, then you have to train one

[unkempt cape]

it exists

just that its paid

or its motherfucking anyv3

[vital raptor]

i either never wrote down my training settings or i lost the file i put it in, i'd have to figure it out from scratch

which, tbh, needs to be done for basically every lora/model anyway, there's no magic numbers that always work

of the settings i saw you post before you deleted it, i think your repeats are too high, but i'd have to look it up again

[junior quest]

nah I just need to check its my vram or kohya ss problem

I trained a lora yesterday

it was terrible lora but trained so now its like always stuck

[junior quest]

yesh those settings were my last training session

[unkempt cape]

What lora u making? Character?

[junior quest]

yesh ofc

I thought it was a vram problem so I used batch size 1, it didnt work either, so I have no clue now what to do

[vital raptor]

what gpu?

[junior quest]

prev lora trained with batch size 3

[junior quest]

4070

[vital raptor]

sdxl model?

[junior quest]

yesh yesh

pony

[vital raptor]

well, last i was training anything you couldn't do sdxl on a 16gb card, so i dunno

it was using like 23gb of my vram

[junior quest]

tf, but I did it prev, deym I have no idea wots going on

[merry tendon]

first time i come into this chat again and people are actually typing lol

[vital raptor]

did you change the dataset or anything?

[vital raptor]

it more common than anime images tbh

[junior quest]

nope didnt touch the dataset

[merry tendon]

lol

nerf still active?

[fresh sleet]

That is not the plan, I cluster images by style attributes (which is less precise than specific artist but more precise than 'sketch with color highlights' or '80s anime') and then tag images belongin to same cluster as 'style_42'.

[lyric zealot]

@wooden coral @dull jackal #🍥｜anime message

[dull jackal]

Are you sure you...didn't want that gift card!? XD

[lyric zealot]

i was sharing with more people

[wooden coral]

Oh no I missed 50 Dollars again

[bitter latch]

ok so I've been trying to do two mules side by side for someone and well I gotta share this. I think i've seen pigmy mules in an anime.. not sure but here 😄

[nova remnant]

[green temple]

🤣

[nova remnant]

6 wheeled skate board with cute stuff

[green temple]

👍

[nova remnant]

@green temple smol and skate

[versed jay]

How can you rescale several images at the same time in the stable? it makes me very slow

@vital raptor

[green temple]

@nova remnant

[nova remnant]

I'm always lurking

Just ate food so im lazy looking at new discord messages

[green temple]

😭

[nova remnant]

@green temple big

[green temple]

😭 ❤️

[silent kraken]

I meant you can get good quality images but you need to put more emphasis on the texture/ style. Otherwise it's feel like the quality is bad

[nova remnant]

How many smols a day do you make

[green temple]

only 15 or 20

[green temple]

😭

[nova remnant]

Thought it would be at least billions

[green temple]

i wish i can 😭

[bitter latch]

umm...

then ya got me coming up with randomt things...

[dry pecan]

0

[bitter latch]

nice

[vital raptor]

that's me 😄

[nova remnant]

Many smug :3 pirates

[vital raptor]

also witches

[steady grail]

another test, cute

tomorrow i try with pony

after all that was the model the workflow was supposed to use

[nova remnant]

she needs more light

[steady grail]

the prompt is pretty simple and touching the latent is a big headache

for now i fixed some settings on the steps and depth side

when i test pony and works as i expect, i work on the latent to improve it a little, if i can

[bitter latch]

chyler leigh as a Keeshond girl wearing letter jacket

[green temple]

hands noooo 😢

[steady grail]

that's a little weird

makes me unconfortable the pose of the legs

soma, i would delete that, for the staff, may be a little risque

[green temple]

is it nsfw ?

sorry if so

[broken fractal]

nothing is

or

[broken fractal]

everything is lol

[steady grail]

it's a little too close in being an up-skirt

[broken fractal]

what will naked bears do together in jungle ?🤔 🫣

[bitter latch]

normal bears dont' wear clothes , silly

[steady grail]

and expecially on a looking underage character, isn't the best choice

[broken fractal]

yeah thats what i ask 😄 what will 2 normal naked bears do together in jungle ?🤔 🫣

[green temple]

oh im sorry that was unintentional didn`t mean it

[bitter latch]

I've got a niece and a bunch of cousins, thats tame

and in anime.. phhhttt

[broken fractal]

@bitter latch

[green temple]

@steady grail is this ok ?

[bitter latch]

bearly anything

[broken fractal]

well im satisfied thank you

🤣

https://tenor.com/view/funny-jokes-laugh-very-funny-jokes-gif-8006636675585716814

[steady grail]

yep super charming

i don't like to make people uncomfortable, but let's try to self moderate, without the intervention of the staff. out there is full of people ready to point the finger and make trouble

[bitter latch]

bunch of people in denial

to reality

[broken fractal]

lol

[steady grail]

after watching saw, honestly i'm desensitized from anything XD

[broken fractal]

what is your most favourite horror ?

[bitter latch]

ok this is sorta anime and it is made by AI so here... https://suno.com/song/8ff34842-b769-405d-b64a-ea7377b31715

[steady grail]

hard question. horror is a genre hard to grasp

[bitter latch]

ya know to totally drail things

[broken fractal]

can AI make me to an anime ?

[bitter latch]

more than likely

[broken fractal]

really ?

[bitter latch]

just in digital form only

[broken fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UpttYjF9kcw make me to anime please me not the girl who is next to me im the one on the left just me plz

[steady grail]

ok, i'm totally beaten

going to sleep

see ya

[broken fractal]

when its gonna be done ?

oh u were talkin about sleepin

why go to bed so early

[bitter latch]

early for you might be late for them

and some of us are old fats who should goto bed early

[steady grail]

i have a turn is some hours XD

[broken fractal]

oh ok have a good sleep then

but before that can u do the AI thing real quick ?

[bitter latch]

but I don't. been sleeping in 2 or 3 our periods latey, , damn spring

[steady grail]

👋

[broken fractal]

[steady grail]

the gui crushed

didn't like the last alteration XD

[bitter latch]

hmm odd. hit generate and 0.9s ecs here's ya image, nothing.. wtf

[bitter latch]

and thats her dress..so dont' even !

[broken fractal]

where can i go and generate things ?

[nova remnant]

many places

[broken fractal]

for examples ?

i want me to become an anime character like Mikasa Ackerman 😄

[nova remnant]

I have no idea what anime is

I only generate smol

[lyric zealot]

me

[bitter latch]

what a doll.. literally hehe

[nova remnant]

@lyric zealot @green temple smol smol

[nova remnant]

do you have a decent gpu

[green temple]

indeed

[lyric zealot]

[green temple]

wth you want to become mikasa 🤣🤣🤣

[bitter latch]

haha strawberries on head

[broken fractal]

yeah i meanhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/ccE3geiSV6Q me on the left only not the girl who is next to me im the one who is wearing a tie 😄 i'm better fit with Mikasa way more than she is 😄

[green temple]

"ice cream seller "

[broken fractal]

nah i just have like my phone and my longtime laptop

[nova remnant]

I need some

[bitter latch]

I scream you scream, the toaster screams, I shoot the toaster

[green temple]

sure !

[nova remnant]

not a very good gen but kinda funny cx

[bitter latch]

I like it

[broken fractal]

so basically just generate images not videos 😦

Sora making videos but like i still can't download it

but not hmm anime tho

[nova remnant]

@brittle rampart its you!

[green temple]

!!!!!!!!!! insane

"moe moe kyun ! "

[broken fractal]

i cant find the generator

[lyric zealot]

what are you trying to find?

[broken fractal]

generate myself dancing become an anime character

[lyric zealot]

probably quite difficult if you don't know what you are doing

if you already have the dance video, then you will probably wanna do ssomething like img2img

[broken fractal]

remaker ?

[lyric zealot]

?

[broken fractal]

https://remaker.ai/stable-diffusion-img2img

no ?

[lyric zealot]

well, you can use different methods, not sure about that link

since my anti virus auto flag up site with script

most people here use their own local pc to do stuff like img2img

but there's definitely cloud based one, just have to find a trusted one

and img2img is one image

for your case, you will wanna do the whole video

so it's probably gonna be some script built upon img2img

[broken fractal]

but not the girl who next to me tho only me

[lyric zealot]

which i can't remember the name of

[broken fractal]

oh 😦

can u show me like an example ?

[unkempt cape]

á đù vn

[broken fractal]

sao biết vậy hiyhi

[green temple]

"drinking water" lol

[brittle rampart]

nyoooo... she a cat....

[green temple]

thx for the lighting lora tho !

[brittle rampart]

now your gen on different height level! congratulation!

they are all so cute!

[bitter latch]

ignore the foot

wait let me see if I can fix that

yes?

[brittle rampart]

try

[bitter latch]

not perfect but shrugs

haha love it

so tired

ya know my brains on sleep when I do these

more accurate

tho that arm. hmm

this one went weird but interesting

like they are dreaming

[brittle rampart]

we need call exorcist!

[nova remnant]

Every cute animal works

[nova remnant]

I don't speak the language of the smol

[green temple]

i mean i letrally typed it in prompt lol

[nova remnant]

What kinda model is that

[green temple]

maybe because of the lora

🤣

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

this is a good! this a very very good!

[green temple]

😍

[nova remnant]

Sooma going insane when seeing smols

[brittle rampart]

Yes!!! Yes, you are on top today!

[green temple]

i think she will become prettier without glasses 👍 🤣

[green temple]

indeed 🥹

[brittle rampart]

glasses are a divine item that increases the degree of Kawaii level!

[green temple]

ohhhh ok 🤣

[nova remnant]

Many moons

[brittle rampart]

what are you doing to me today?!

[nova remnant]

You have glasses in your picture

You have that level too

[brittle rampart]

you a bad bad boy...😂

[nova remnant]

I'll take you to the castle

👍

[brittle rampart]

sky casle?

[nova remnant]

That's a good idea

Waiting for you @brittle rampart x3

It's so far lmao

The castle

[nova remnant]

We're close!

[brittle rampart]

oh yeeeeiiiii!!!

[nova remnant]

Bunny teacher leading the crew

Cx

[green temple]

"serving cake, party, "

[brittle rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo

[brittle rampart]

your gen - great!

[dry pecan]

thx

[brittle rampart]

can ask about model ?

[brittle rampart]

this is SDXL or ....?

[nova remnant]

guys can we make normal videos into anime with stable diffusion or it works in stable warpfusion?

[dry pecan]

it's merged model based awpainting_v13 and SD 1.5

[nova remnant]

wow so cute

yummy mummy

guys any1 tried converting their videos into anime?

[nova remnant]

Bunny is a good teacher

[ivory pebble]

I have no idea how you would even do that, but I'm sure it's possible

[brittle rampart]

damp! it look very great!

[nova remnant]

guys how many minutes it take to convert 1080p@60fps video 1 minute video with rtx 4080?

I'm here in this chat today as the research officer, I'll need this in full to make sure everything is okay

i m thinking of buy gpu for stable diffusion i have 4 cores laptop with igpu lol

so thinking of buying 4080 or 7900xtx c

cause 7900xtx have more VRAM

and 4080 have more compute units

[ivory pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-21852548

[nova remnant]

confused between which to buy

AMD doesn't optimize stuff well for AI on consumer cards

I wouldn't buy one if you plan on using for AI

which gpu u have?

The worst one

i need gpu for video conversion into anime

cant be worsed than mine i have intel igpu quicksync

wiht 4 core laptop lol

[nova remnant]

yummy

which gpu u have?

[zinc flax]

Nai v3 hits different

[nova remnant]

sexy

which gpu u guys have

[ivory pebble]

This is NAIv3, so you don't really need a good GPU to generate images with it

[ivory pebble]

Already spent like 5k anlas and it's only been a week since I've bought it 😭

[zinc flax]

Holy crap

Might as well buy opus

[nova remnant]

sorry i m nub can u explain me what it is is like a diiferent sofwatre than stable diffusion or like a server?

[zinc flax]

And then use the 10k anlas the next month lol

[ivory pebble]

Not sure how to explain it in the best way but I think it's like midjourney where you have to pay in order to generate images with it

[nova remnant]

ooh cool

which cpu u have

[ivory pebble]

I probably will honestly

[nova remnant]

i mean cpu gpu

can midjourney or is there any AI which can convert ur videos into anime

[ivory pebble]

I got a ryzen 5 3600 and a rtx3050

[nova remnant]

can stbale diffusion do that?

or only warpfusion higher version of stbale do that?

[ivory pebble]

You should probably be asking that question in a different channel, for example the tech support one

[nova remnant]

okays thx

[nova remnant]

does midjourney run smooth on it?

have u tried comparing mid journey with stable diffusion?

[ivory pebble]

Never used midjourney, so I'm not sure

[bold ether]

Midjourney can't be installed locally

[ivory pebble]

Midjourney, just like NovelAI, is a subscription service, so you'll have to pay for it in order to use it, and you can't install it locally

And you also don't need to have a good GPU for these, because the images are done on their own GPUs

[junior quest]

@ivory pebble does NAI have the character ouyang xueli, I was wondering because she doesnt appear in danbooru or pixiv

[ivory pebble]

Nope, I've tried generating her. If she doesn't have any images on danbooru then NAI can't generate her.

[junior quest]

deym

[ivory pebble]

However you could probably generate her using the vibe transfer feature on NAI. Not sure if it would be good but it's still an option

[junior quest]

its like reference of smthing?

[ivory pebble]

Don't really know how to use it but once I figure it out I'll see if it's possible

[junior quest]

kay...

[ivory pebble]

I think it's kinda like their version of IPAdapter, so yeah pretty much

[nova remnant]

What's she studying so angrily

[green temple]

she doesn`t like to study 🤣

[nova remnant]

I was trying to do a gen like that but it wouldn't work

[green temple]

oh

[nova remnant]

Me right now

Very angy

And fluffy dress

[green temple]

oh this is "fluffy dress " ?

will try

[nova remnant]

Yes

It's from sd3 so might be different

Fluffier and smoller

[junior quest]

wooow lightning

[green temple]

prompt

[junior quest]

https://tenor.com/view/doflamingo-one-piece-laughing-mwahaha-fufufu-gif-19962315

[nova remnant]

Ugly

[nova remnant]

Lmao my prompt is stupid

[green temple]

🤣🤣 np

[nova remnant]

"Cute modern anime style, cute and unhappy small girl, she's wearing a fluffy pink dress, close up portrait, she's angry that her father didn't buy the pair of shoes she wanted, well lit living room, window, lens flare, her face is a bit round, she has a bow on her hair and her arms are crossed"

Kek

[zinc flax]

Can it do fluffy pajamas

[nova remnant]

Extremely smolll

[green temple]

ohhhhhhhhh

🤣

[green temple]

2 ears noooooo i think "fake ears " neg will solve the problem

[zinc flax]

Das a fluffy worm

[gloomy scroll]

It's a dragon

[nova remnant]

@zinc flax extremely angy fluffy pajamas wearer

[nova remnant]

Snek

[zinc flax]

Cuuute

[nova remnant]

@green temple

Happy

[zinc flax]

Super cute

[green temple]

yaaaaay

[zinc flax]

Do striped fluffy pajamas

[green temple]

agree

[green temple]

cuuuute 😭

[nova remnant]

A bit of trouble to get it right

[junior quest]

do we have a danbooru tag for that dark area of face?

[nova remnant]

Smol

[green temple]

is this cutemix model ?

[nova remnant]

Shadowed face

I think

[gloomy scroll]

sweetfruit_coco

[green temple]

👍

[gloomy scroll]

Don't ask where I got it since those are old images

[nova remnant]

Shaded face

Went to check

[green temple]

🤣

[junior quest]

yesh it works

[nova remnant]

cute

Do "sitting inside cardboard box"

[nova remnant]

i never used stable so u guys are producing these images with text to image?

[nova remnant]

also how long it takes to produce one image depending on graphic card

[nova remnant]

KAWAIII ELF CUTE

[nova remnant]

OMG i want her so bad she is so maou maou cute

i want to pet her and pull her cheecks so bnad

bad

[nova remnant]

omg!

wow so cute!!thx u maou

AWWW the pout!

so cute

[nova remnant]

omg heartattack

[nova remnant]

stap it ! stap it awwwwwww

vil which pc u have?

gpu?

also how many minutes or seconds for 1 image?

[gloomy scroll]

gtx1070 but those images I sent were done with Nai

[nova remnant]

what is nai?

[gloomy scroll]

NovelAI

[nova remnant]

like midjourney?>

[gloomy scroll]

Yes

[nova remnant]

ooh

is it better and faster than 4080?

NovelAI?

[gloomy scroll]

But Nai is just best

[nova remnant]

wow so cool

elf girl sexy

they have their own gpus right?

also price?

[gloomy scroll]

Well Nai is quite fast but more like their model is one of the best there

[zinc flax]

Nai is a subscription service

Not a gpu

[nova remnant]

ya so price monthly?

[nova remnant]

but they must be using some sorta gpu right to produce their images

[gloomy scroll]

These or 25$ monthly sub for infinite gens at 1024x1024 resolution

[zinc flax]

Shrug

[gloomy scroll]

They have something better than consumer gpu

[nova remnant]

is there 1080 resolution?

1920x1080 for youtbe?

thumbnails

[gloomy scroll]

Yes but it's quite expensive

[nova remnant]

also stable has 1080p 1920x1080p for youtube thumbnails?

[gloomy scroll]

gotte be careful with this "elf" it may bite

[nova remnant]

AWWWWW i m going otherweise ill die

so cute

so cute omg

[gloomy scroll]

NaiV3 is finetuned SDXL model

[green temple]

@nova remnant can`t get it but got this

[nova remnant]

that elf can bite me

[nova remnant]

cute neko ears

[nova remnant]

ooh

[green temple]

indeed

[nova remnant]

stable diffusion is free right?

[gloomy scroll]

Well you can gen on your gpu if you want

[zinc flax]

Don't yank the hair

[nova remnant]

Grabby

[nova remnant]

[junior quest]

this smile? what do we call it?

[nova remnant]

Smile

No need to thank me like and subscribe 👍

[junior quest]

yandere smile? weird smile? evil smile?

[junior quest]

souka

[junior quest]

guess I'll just caption evil smile

[nova remnant]

Light smile probably

[junior quest]

yeah PROBABLY

[nova remnant]

Tags don't go into too much detail

If she looks evil

Then evil smile

[junior quest]

nah but shes so good some times

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

I'm gonna investigate some pizza later

[nova remnant]

I'm hungry

[brittle rampart]

I'm on my way!

[nova remnant]

cute

I'll eat the whole ship if you're late

[brittle rampart]

you are a cunning one, brother rabbit! i cant fly!

[nova remnant]

Bunny hoodie girl selfies

[acoustic locust]

Sd3 is good but it's not finetuned

it's a really general model

so it's kind of iffy with anime in my opinion

[nova remnant]

You're iffy

SD3 is really good

[gloomy scroll]

Bnnuy

[nova remnant]

This is the early version too

I hope the hands improve on release

[acoustic locust]

I am

very

Always tweakin' 💪 💪

[nova remnant]

Smol

Big ears

[nova remnant]

@brittle rampart you!

[nova remnant]

Visiting a biig steampunk spaceship

[nova remnant]

Grabby

👍

[slate narwhal]

=^.^=

[brittle rampart]

ho! this is taxi for me?

[nova remnant]

sorry i didnt understand can u explain ?is it free to convert images with AI in generative fill in 1920x1080p and convert videos with AI into anime?

[nova remnant]

Taxi to another planet maybe

[gloomy scroll]

You can take any image as reference and generate anime version of it with AI.
And as for free you can do that with your gpu locally

[nova remnant]

how?

u mean SD is free locally?

or cloud based?

[gloomy scroll]

SD is open source you can use free locally and I'm not sure if any cloud lets you use ai gen free

[nova remnant]

ooh so NOVEL ai is cloud based versionn of SD?

[gloomy scroll]

Yes

[nova remnant]

Which is faster cloud based or gpu?

locally

locally also it converts text to images?

[gloomy scroll]

Depends how fast your internet and what gpu you have

[nova remnant]

and videos into animation locally?

rtx 4080?

entering scary dungeon

if i buy?

[nova remnant]

omg so cute that ears

and her hair colour so sweet

[gloomy scroll]

Well you can do this but I haven't done it rly since if you want frames consistent it requires a lot of work

[nova remnant]

okays thx ill try that

wait so i m a bit confused

SD locally with gpu converts text to images right?

for free?

[gloomy scroll]

Yes

[nova remnant]

then why it have cloud

based

whats difference between 2?

[gloomy scroll]

But "free" is based on your electricity bill

[gloomy scroll]

Web based services have their own gpu that's most likely better than you have

[nova remnant]

ooh so they might have 4090

[gloomy scroll]

That's still low end card on this field

[nova remnant]

electricity bill as in gpu usgae?

[gloomy scroll]

Yeah

[nova remnant]

also is cloud based costly?

than electricity billy?

[gloomy scroll]

local should be cheaper

[vital raptor]

by a lot, unless your power is extremely costly where you live

[nova remnant]

i live in india

[gloomy scroll]

Also one reason people use web based services is since some have their own model just like Nai which is one of the best model at the moment

[vital raptor]

my computer with a 4090 and a 1200w power supply could cost a lot if it was maxed out 24/7, somewhere around $120usd/month with local power cost, but in reality it uses more like $6-20/month depending on how much i'm generating and gaming, and even that it probably over estimating by a lot

versus some cloud service that would cost around $25/month even if you didnt use it, and is limited in how many images you can generate

[cerulean cosmos]

but if u include what that computer cost, it would be quite a lot i would assume

[vital raptor]

and some days i'm generating over 1000 images in a few hours, so there's no way a cloud service is viable for me

[vital raptor]

sure, just my gpu was $2000, but i didnt buy it for AI generation

[vital raptor]

i bought it for gaming and 3D modeling work, it's something i had or was going to have anyways

[cerulean cosmos]

id like to add that i really dont like the api token crap

the limitation

[gloomy scroll]

Doesn't rly matter for casual user

[vital raptor]

i also have my old 3080TI in my home server just because

[cerulean cosmos]

perhaps

[gloomy scroll]

I have only 1070

[vital raptor]

now, if I was someone that was not already going to buy expensive PC parts and had no reason to own them besides AI generation, i'd absolutely find some kind of cloud service that works for me

I imagine having $2000 for nai instead of a 4090 would last you quite some time

[vital raptor]

in fact, i debated a long time even getting the 4090 to begin with because i didnt need to upgrade from the 3080TI and something like NAI probably would have been more cost effective, but ultimately my freelance work paid for the card and it made my AI generations take less time so it's been worth it for me in the long term

[junior quest]

so you got two of them plugged in? or 3080ti benched?

[vital raptor]

the 3080TI is in my server, I'm planning on using it for AI facial and voice recognition for my home automation stuff, potentially using a llm for a 'virtual assistant' type of thing

but otherwise it's just sitting there idle most of the time

[unkempt cape]

Nai is very much worth it if you don't need complete control or privacy

It's amazing for what it does

it genuinely shits on everything anime related we have rn

[vital raptor]

that's subjective at best, but if you like it, great

[unkempt cape]

ye i put nai on top, beating everything by a landslide

which makes it more depressing that its not free

[nova remnant]

Where she going to

[nova remnant]

Smolll

[nova remnant]

Big 👍

[vital raptor]

it's near the bottom of the list for me because it's not free, for me it's more worth it to spend the time to find a model and settings that produce the qualities i'm looking for (or train something if i have to) instead of just paying for a monthly service for no real benefit

on the other hand, if i wanted to generate specific characters in that particular style, it might be higher on my list

[magic wave]

Marina

[magic wave]

That looks sick :o

[nova remnant]

Luna

[magic wave]

It me :O

I've finished my training of all Funger 2 girls cx

(the main ones at least)

[ivory pebble]

I wouldn't really say it's better than everything by a landslide. It's got a really good base style and the fact that it has so many innate artists is really good, however models such as Pony or AutismMix are still better with overall prompt adherence and with certain concepts.

If anything a mix between NAI and Pony would be the perfect model in my opinion

[magic wave]

I agree too, I don't like prompting in NAI, it feels more stiff than Pony prompting, and the innate artists are trash, my LoRAs are way better

XD

[nova remnant]

I thought NAI was very good at prompt adherence

[magic wave]

Its good at following prompts, but it doesnt like, stretch as much with natural prompting I'd say :o

[nova remnant]

Big Loras for the win

[magic wave]

At least in my experience

[ivory pebble]

Loras are definitely another big reason why I prefer making certain images with Pony rather than NAI

[magic wave]

Yeee, I mean I mostly do use my own styles, and by mostly I mean always, cause I usually train like smaller/more obscure artists, and specially like twitter artists or stuff like that, that you wont find on NAI

[ivory pebble]

It's good until you try doing something a bit more complex, it completely ignores prompts even after adding weights to them

[magic wave]

Thats true too

[nova remnant]

@magic wave this is you

[ivory pebble]

I think their limiting factor is the fact that they only use danbooru images for their dataset, which is good for anime don't get me wrong but a model like Pony, which has a mixed dataset, does better with certain concepts like I said

[nova remnant]

You're green bird girl now

[magic wave]

O, fair :O

[magic wave]

That too, and theres also huge like very niche but strong benefits to local, like SVD merge LoRAs that NAI probably will never have cause its something very manual to do

So basically
NAI = Apple
A1111/Forge SD = Android
Comfy SD = Linux?

[ivory pebble]

I mean who knows, NAI plan on making their own base model soon, they got the money for all of these tools to be added. It just depends on if they want to do it or not I guess

[unkempt cape]

I'd say if you put pony coherent at like 9 then nai is about like 7/10

but style a 10

So i still rate it higher

[magic wave]

I mean I doubt they do complex stuff like that, maybe their base model will be really good, but won't have the same freedom

[ivory pebble]

The style is mainly why I'm using it currently, but yeah like I said it struggles with certain things that are quite easy to do on Pony

[unkempt cape]

No base? Damn

[magic wave]

I mean, personally I think I like the coherency of NAI but not the style

[unkempt cape]

Yeah i havent gotten around to test pony for coherence

but i still put nai on top because of the style and coherence wise its more usable than average anime sdxl

[ivory pebble]

To put it simply NAI is the best SFW anime model, Pony excels at NSFW stuff but it doesn't have a good base style for anime

[unkempt cape]

Oh hey another style thief just like me :DDDDD

[ivory pebble]

This is pretty much what most people will tell you

[magic wave]

These are some pics I've generated with styles I've trained, and I prefer my stuff over anything NAI has xD

[magic wave]

Ayyy

xD

[unkempt cape]

XD i also steal styles

I have like 3 loras so far i think

[magic wave]

I don't know how many I have, for SD 1.5 I probs have like

[unkempt cape]

Too lazy i just like merge at random weights see what stuff does

[magic wave]

60, and for SDXL so far probably like 30

[unkempt cape]

It made pics i liked thats 4 sure

[unkempt cape]

Ye man i cant seem to find some pics it made online

[magic wave]

I tried the lora block weight extension, and I didn't like it too much, didn't find much use for the INs or the latter part of the OUTs

Dunno how merging goes, but my experience with the dynamic weights was kinda mid

[unkempt cape]

like people like it that much im expecting awesome shit

[ivory pebble]

At the end of the day all of this is subjective, so it really doesn't matter whether you use NAI or Pony, it just comes down to which one you like more, both are really good models

[unkempt cape]

Lol i made fire stuff with merging loras

[magic wave]

True too :o

[ivory pebble]

What do you mean?

[magic wave]

Fair fair :o

[unkempt cape]

ok maybe not THAT good but like 3 loras and i got a bunch of styles from switching weights

lemme if i can show any of em rn

Weight switch boom styles @magic wave

[unkempt cape]

I want to see examples (ofc i know those pics can't be here but i wanna know how good it really is)

[magic wave]

I mean those two look pretty similar to me :o

But I kinda see it :o

[unkempt cape]

Its like .2 of difference

So ofc not that much

[magic wave]

Yeh, so its kinda the same as the lora block weight extension, very minor diferences :o

[nova remnant]

{{{{{nai}}}}}

[unkempt cape]

i don't do alot of training now because well im lazy

[nova remnant]

[unkempt cape]

(((((nai)))))

[ivory pebble]

It was pretty easy to keep track of the good pics people were generating with it on Civitai when Pony first released but nowadays there's thousands of images to scroll through, so it's hard to find those exact images you're looking for

[magic wave]

I can recommend you some apps to make that easier :o

[magic wave]

I mean, I feel like good pics are pretty easy to gen :o

[nova remnant]

I rarely use autism

Pony style is cute

[magic wave]

I use autism 24/7

[junior quest]

[magic wave]

Got it built-in

[ivory pebble]

Well yes but if you're looking to find some online it's probably gonna be a bit hard to do so. Generating images yourself is much better

[magic wave]

[unkempt cape]

Cool thing before i go for a moment, so this x lora has very little amount of images, and poor settings (i dont know wtf options mean), so images are BROKEN. But when i use it on top of this y lora on a low weight, it "stabilizes" the x lora

[nova remnant]

I'm not talking autism like @lyric zealot

[magic wave]

True too :o

[nova remnant]

[unkempt cape]

And I get better shit

[magic wave]

I mean, that just means one of em is bad :o

[junior quest]

hmm? which one?

[unkempt cape]

Yeah i have no pc to keep retrying, and the style fidelity is close enough

[magic wave]

2nd one :O

[unkempt cape]

Like it helps fixes the X lora

[magic wave]

Fair, I mean if you want I can send you my settings for styles :o

[lyric zealot]

[magic wave]

Soosi

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

Turkey

[magic wave]

Turkey

[lyric zealot]

My fucking phone can’t type

[magic wave]

XD

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

Kek

[magic wave]

[nova remnant]

Signs of awootism

Smuggered

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-peek-hiding-cute-menhera-gif-12479109

[gloomy scroll]

https://civitai.com/models/57816/cirno-yellow-cirno-purple-cirno-blue-cirno-with-twintails

[nova remnant]

Is her hair pretty

[magic wave]

That is a Cirno :o

[nova remnant]

black bars

[magic wave]

Sitting Samarie

[ivory pebble]

Uhm actually, anime is not allowed in the anime channel, thank you very much 🤓☝️

[ivory pebble]

Now make her do a 360 backflip

[gloomy scroll]

She tried that but hit the 4th wall

[lyric zealot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1225895380584108093/TwinSlam.gif

[gloomy scroll]

So I gave her snack

But she wanted more

So I gave her another

[nova remnant]

Funny how is still a good image

I prompted for something completely different

[ivory pebble]

Uglee, turn her into shrek

[magic wave]

Spooki Smarie

[nova remnant]

It just broke lmao

[nova remnant]

Pony doesn't know Shrek

[junior quest]

depressed

[ivory pebble]

Wtf, PonyV7 where are you 😠

[magic wave]

True

[nova remnant]

Luna without genning Booba for one day

[magic wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ18cB2RzQw

[junior quest]

eh!? released?

[magic wave]

O thats pretty :o

[ivory pebble]

I wish

[junior quest]

[ivory pebble]

Realistically it's gonna take around 3-4 months before it's released

[magic wave]

Hands a bit scuffed but this is pretty neat :o

[magic wave]

Big gun :o

[junior quest]

https://tenor.com/view/toaru-kagaku-no-railgun-t-misaka-mikoto-anime-fight-railgun-gif-16037317

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/grabby-hands-cat-cute-gif-8707251

[nova remnant]

@gloomy scroll

[nova remnant]

When mages get more powerful do their hats also grow ?

[gloomy scroll]

[lyric zealot]

I will refrain from making some inappropriate joke about this

[gloomy scroll]

[nova remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/857955668829011988/961381752805425222/kok.gif

[steady grail]

for now, astra is still collecting data till sd3 is pubrically released

[nova remnant]

beeg ear

[nova remnant]

wtf

[steady grail]

cute

[nova remnant]

no u

[ivory pebble]

You mean like, images for the dataset? Is there gonna be more than 10M?

[junior quest]

https://tenor.com/view/secret-whisper-whispering-shocked-surprised-gif-17670008

[ivory pebble]

W rizz

[steady grail]

no idea how much he collected. but i know he is still collecting

[junior quest]

yesh world is done

[steady grail]

anyway sd3 is still not public, so, he have still time

[nova remnant]

nai deleted forever

[ivory pebble]

I think I saw he mentioned it the dataset is currently at 10M

[steady grail]

love that effect

[nova remnant]

no open source

[ivory pebble]

You're just a cat what do you know

[steady grail]

a day ago he was looking for characters to train the model with

[junior quest]

[nova remnant]

I wanted "picture taken from inside a train" and the fucking train is in space

kek

[junior quest]

I mean its inside

[ivory pebble]

More anime is always a good choice in my honest opinion

[nova remnant]

Cx

[steady grail]

totally agree

[junior quest]

yesh

[ivory pebble]

More anime = more anime booba = profit

[junior quest]

[nova remnant]

more anime but more shrek also

then good

[ivory pebble]

Shut

[nova remnant]

I did another train picture

this time is different

the catastrophe is...

[ivory pebble]

Man mixing styles on NAI is so fun but also very irritating cause I can never decide which style looks the best

[junior quest]

me wondering will we able to run sd3

[ivory pebble]

This is so cursed oh my lord 😭

[ivory pebble]

Probably, I mean maybe not the biggest model but the 2B one should be fine

[junior quest]

ahhh big oneeeee

[ivory pebble]

I have no clue honestly, guess we'll just have to wait and see

May 6th is the release date

Source: Me

[junior quest]

hmm sadge if we cant run big one

[ivory pebble]

Even the weaker ones should be better than SDXL, that's all that matter to me honestly

[junior quest]

ya sure?

[steady grail]

y

much more responsive

[ivory pebble]

I don't think it's a huge improvement compared to SDXL but it's still a step in the right direction

[junior quest]

big = more animes

[nova remnant]

for suure

[junior quest]

wots dat? hiphop cap?

[nova remnant]

it was just a gen

some weird hat

I put "teacher hat"

[unkempt cape]

Was trying to use pony to generate a girl holding a knife

Did not go as well as expected that's for sure

How do i prompt this shit???

(it doesn't know how holding a knife works)

[magic wave]

I just do "holding knife"

[gloomy scroll]

1y old model > Pony

[unkempt cape]

it just doesn't work

[unkempt cape]

Real

Maybe sd just not great at doing that stuff lemme see if there's any thing at all that generates this well

Eh nothing really tbh

So i guess controlnet the way

[magic wave]

Weird :o

[vital raptor]

I was able to generate images of a girl holding a knife with autismmix pretty easily

I didn't keep or post any because they were a bit bloody, but it's really not that hard to do

[unkempt cape]

Idk man i just cant do it

[vital raptor]

🤷‍♂️

literally just added 'holding knife' to my prompt

hands are rarely done 100% properly to begin with, so some inpainting might be desired, but generating the basics is simple enough

not really sure what you're doing to test things out, but you were going to 'see if there's anything that generates this well' and then less than 10 mintues later somehow came to the conclusion that nothing can do it

there are thousands on different models and loras out there, and many different ways of prompting them, no single thing will produce what you want every time

and obviously, the same model i told you yesterday can do it can do it

[gloomy scroll]

[steady grail]

he was attempting to stab you with a waifu handling a knife, but you are still there, soo... indead, he failed <.<

[vital raptor]

well, it's gonna take a bit more than a waifu to stab me 😄

[steady grail]

loading pony crushed everything 😦

oh wait, maybe know what's the problem

[junior quest]

having noise like this, can affect a lot?

low quality

[steady grail]

noise like what?

[junior quest]

noise little dots

blur?

dunno

[steady grail]

do you want to use this image as noise?

[junior quest]

no no noo

[cerulean cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-noice-jake-peralta-andy-samberg-nice-gif-14234819

[junior quest]

Im asking these kind of images are okay to put

creating a lora

[steady grail]

no expert in training, but i think depend from what do you want the base resolution to be

if most of the img are 512x512, you will gen better 512x512 images

[steady grail]

the workflow is to heavy for my pc 😦

can't test it on pony

[supple raptor]

I would try to avoid them as much as possible, but if it's just a small portion of the dataset then it probably won't be too big of a deal. Also, if it's all you have to train with then you might as well try. In many cases, the VAE encode pass that occurs before the model ever sees the image during training will help to obscure problems like that since the data is getting crushed down into 8x8 latents anyways.

[junior quest]

okay thanks, and Im doing a 1.5 lora with 576x576
I got images with
524x766
645x645 res
should I turn on upscale with bucket or not

[steady grail]

nubby is the expert

[junior quest]

yesh yesh

[steady grail]

nubby what do you suggest to train a cursed lora that kills the utilizer like the film the ring? XD

[supple raptor]

Bucketing is basically always beneficial. Turn that on for sure since you have differently shaped images.
Upscaling won't be beneficial and could be harmful.
576x576 = 331,776 pixels
521x766 = 399,086 pixels
645x645 = 416,025 pixels
so both image sizes will already be downscaled a bit anyways.

[junior quest]

woow did math also, deym thanks for that

[supple raptor]

Any lora or lora variant trained on Shrek images seems like it would probably be pretty effective at that.