🍥｜anime

[bitter latch]

oh boy shouldn't have done that

there strawberry fairy ghouls

kinda

falls over laughing

ok was not expec ting a close up

hmm she's part strawberry

ok last one and i'm to bed.. thud

ok i Lied I gotta post this then bed

strawberry hat

runs away

[brittle rampart]

💖 is very very similar to Nefertim Osphe

[nova remnant]

The moon has a face

Fuunya

[brittle rampart]

Nya!

[nova remnant]

Sooma changed picture

Basically a new person now

[brittle rampart]

yep i see

[nova remnant]

New cute

[brittle rampart]

true!

[nova remnant]

Watchu got for us today Funya

Will people let you gen or bother you cx

[green temple]

thats her lora but i got the ears by accident

ended up being cuter than ever 🥰

[vagrant spire]

Disney-style mermaid

[brittle rampart]

Alas. while I'm busy with work. 😭

[nova remnant]

Grabby ears

[green temple]

[nova remnant]

Nyoo

[brittle rampart]

the harsh truth of life

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

coot!

[nova remnant]

Working fox

[green temple]

nooo i canceled this

[green temple]

cool

[nova remnant]

Decancel it now

[green temple]

🙃

[nova remnant]

Pat pat pat

[brittle rampart]

dont worry - be happy!

[brittle rampart]

https://soundcloud.com/meowdk/06-hakuna-matata

[green temple]

dayum ! 🤣🤣

why am i intrrupting 😭

[nova remnant]

Award!

[brittle rampart]

🤣 she look great!

[green temple]

nice

[nova remnant]

That one I know

[nova remnant]

Do you take long to gen

[green temple]

yes

thats why

my cmd line args are --xformers --disable-nan-check --medvram --no-half

also 60 hires steps💀

[brittle rampart]

what you use ?!

[green temple]

wdym ?

[brittle rampart]

WebUI?

[green temple]

yes

[brittle rampart]

A1111 or Forge?

[green temple]

a111

any good atgs for generation speed ?

no it`s SD

args

[brittle rampart]

what a gen time for you?

[green temple]

10 min 1 img

maybe

or a bit less

[brittle rampart]

this is SDXL mode?

[green temple]

no

[brittle rampart]

1.5?

[green temple]

regular

yes

[vital raptor]

why 60 hires steps?

[brittle rampart]

try Forge

and yes why 60 stepd?

[vital raptor]

most models dont really have an actual difference after 7-10

[green temple]

oh

[vital raptor]

i'd test it at least, those are the slowest steps 😄

[brittle rampart]

what Sempler?

[green temple]

DPM++ 2M Karras

[vital raptor]

some model/sampler combos (or loras) need the extra steps, so it might be worth it, but usually not

[brittle rampart]

i am use no more 25 30 steps

• 15-18 on Hires

[green temple]

yes i use 6 loras

[green temple]

actually didnt no that

[vital raptor]

yeah, but do they actually benefit from the extra steps?

[green temple]

hmmmm barely

[vital raptor]

my standard is 30 steps, 7 hires (if i do hires at all)

[green temple]

oh ok

[vital raptor]

and i only hires images i want to keep, i don't have time to waste on an extra ~3seconds per gen!

[brittle rampart]

i am think your gen time can be not a longer 3min. with HiRes

[green temple]

yes, without hires it`s like 5 min

[vital raptor]

i would do a x/y/z plot with hires step count with like 10,20,30,40,50,60 and then compare them and see where the best time vs quality sits

[brittle rampart]

what a card you use?

[vital raptor]

1.5 with no hires is 5min? are you not using a gpu at all?

[green temple]

taking too much time for me doing that

[brittle rampart]

or very slow card

[green temple]

mine is gtx 1660 super

[brittle rampart]

on my 1660 6G 20-40 sec. with out HeRes!

[green temple]

???

[brittle rampart]

yep

we have a same card i think

10 min in my case this is a SDXL gen

[green temple]

ok then give me your sittings ( i`m a noob) 😭

[brittle rampart]

not a 1.5

[green temple]

oh nice

[brittle rampart]

first try use Forge version WebUI

this is faster

[green temple]

ok

[brittle rampart]

and have a build in ControlNet and some extention

[green temple]

got this with 18 hires 25 sampling

540 X 960 X2

[brittle rampart]

and time?

[green temple]

u should teach me what to do

[brittle rampart]

and what a Upscaler you use in Hires steps?

[vital raptor]

I could never do image gens with such a slow card, I'd lose my mind. This took 2 minutes for the x/y/z plot, 1024x768, hires x2

[brittle rampart]

here all do it with pleasure

[green temple]

6 min

[green temple]

thank u so much ❤️

[green temple]

anime 6b

[brittle rampart]

yes.. gift me your card ....😁

[vital raptor]

i'll sell you my old 3080TI 😄

[green temple]

is there less with the same sittings ?

less time

[brittle rampart]

still try to install the Forge version

[brittle rampart]

new version fox?

[green temple]

ok will try

[brittle rampart]

it's much, much faster!

[brittle rampart]

how much?

[zinc flax]

What new version lol

[brittle rampart]

this is

[vital raptor]

nevermind, just checked amazon and prices are under $1k for 3080TI now.. I'm better off keeping it for llm stuff

[brittle rampart]

fummmuuuuu.... 😭 greedy.... 😂

[vital raptor]

should have sold it a few months ago when they were going for more than i paid for it 😄

[nova remnant]

I want to do it

[nova remnant]

Grabby

[brittle rampart]

hey hey - this is not my

[nova remnant]

The cute fox is cute

[green temple]

💪

[brittle rampart]

this is gen @zinc flax

[nova remnant]

I know cx

It's really cute

[zinc flax]

Super cute

[brittle rampart]

and this is mine. for which I asked for forgiveness.

and I asked forgiveness to @zinc flax

unless of course I'm confusing anyone 🥴 🤔

[nova remnant]

You're right

It's sleepti

[zinc flax]

I trained using an old 1.5 lora gen just to use that style with xl lol

[nova remnant]

@brittle rampart cooot

Inspiration from sleepti

She's sleepting

Bloo

[brittle rampart]

she look like a little Kikki

[nova remnant]

Smol

More red

[nova remnant]

Booty girl

[nova remnant]

No

You won't take my boat

[vital raptor]

😄

[nova remnant]

@vital raptor pirate demon girl sailing through lava

I don't think these boats are doing well

[brittle rampart]

😱 💖

[green temple]

guys

whats the reason im getting black images on forge ?

this image was with no hires and it worked but

[steady grail]

images highres are black?

[green temple]

yes

[steady grail]

what's your problem with black images? are you racist? ....

🤣

just joking

[green temple]

lol

should i uncheck it ?

[steady grail]

let me think

any update?

the model is 1.5? or xl?

[green temple]

1.5

[steady grail]

any other extension active?

[bitter latch]

I was right... do not bing watch "the strain" and goto bed.. shivers

[brittle rampart]

we just install Forge

[bitter latch]

not going back sleep now

[green temple]

worked but so bad image

[brittle rampart]

copy one model

[green temple]

with no hires

unchecked:

[bitter latch]

so what we doing?

[steady grail]

when genning with forge base, hr gives black images

[brittle rampart]

you can show screen shot your settings?

[steady grail]

this feels unconfortable

[steady grail]

i'll run it

[brittle rampart]

this is your model

[steady grail]

can you share the black image with metadata?

[brittle rampart]

this is i am generate now on yer model + some Lora`s with hires

[green temple]

nice

so sad

i mean yeah theres no negative

but

[steady grail]

why the vae is set to none and not default? this way load the vae from the model?

[green temple]

hires works fine on sd

[green temple]

i was trying hires

but will copy them

[brittle rampart]

copy a VAE file. and select it

[green temple]

ok

[bitter latch]

i interrupt the discussin with art... sorry

[brittle rampart]

Strawberry!

[bitter latch]

strawberries mister?

[green temple]

looooooool

[green temple]

it works without hires it seems

it should be unchecked

[bitter latch]

I hardly use hi-res

[brittle rampart]

for first steps HiRes maybe unchecked

[steady grail]

i can gen normally in high res

even better than ever. my vram is running in a temperature of 45° c

it's not even straining

[bitter latch]

hehe

ok i'm doine interupting

[nova remnant]

You liked that one

[brittle rampart]

yep

[terse ore]

What 1.5 model gives the most detailed eyes? (I want to use it for inpainting)

[brittle rampart]

maybe just use a tokens in prompt?

[terse ore]

I use blender render of characters as I put for img2img but there is a little bit of clipping with the mesh. So I need to inpaint to fix them. So I thought I may as well use the best inpaint models possible

Because I use controlnet I can keep the composition, but it includes the clipped mesh (the iris cuts into the face and eye whites)

[brittle rampart]

(the iris cuts into the face and eye whites)try a higher mask value?

[terse ore]

? It clips when I don't use inpaint, just controlnet close up. If I use inpaint the surely it will be fixed

[brittle rampart]

I don't quite understand.

[terse ore]

In the blender program I can control which direction the eyes look. But the character's iris cuts into the eye whites so it doesn't look good. So that's why controlnet also looks bad when I use it with the image. So I need to inpaint without controlnet. So I may as well use a model with a lot of detail for eyes

See, the whites of the eye cover up the iris

[brittle rampart]

👍 but maybe fix a crooked mesh in the blender?

this is not good mesh

maybe this is animation deformer

[terse ore]

The white dots are just part of the cheek highlight texture. The characters are made in a character maker program, I just exported it and then imported it into blender.

[brittle rampart]

Fine. then where exactly is the visible problem in the rendering? here?

[terse ore]

Yes

[brittle rampart]

yet. as I remember in blender when animating it was called a weight map

changing which corrected such an overlap

[terse ore]

Maybe I need to move the iris more forward?

[brittle rampart]

in any case, it is advisable to obtain a render that is correct in relation to the mesh

[terse ore]

Yes but since the mesh is not good as is, it would be very limiting (if I can't make the character look in different directions.) I was thinking using 3d character maker and 3d objects with SD could make a colored manga very fast. But there are problems like these

[brittle rampart]

such small artifacts, in my opinion, can cause problems in SD

[unkempt cape]

is it just me or dall e 3 been getting worse at anime

it used to generate crazy good stuff

[terse ore]

Yes SD is not good with small details. It can do main things, then manual adjustments need to be done

[brittle rampart]

@terse ore try max corrent in Blender. btw. you can use a move mode with big radius of action on the mesh

[brittle rampart]

you can also change the curve in this mode

[terse ore]

Thanks I'll try when I get back from work

[brittle rampart]

😂

[ivory pebble]

[brittle rampart]

@ivory pebble she look veryy bored

[brittle rampart]

Colorful!

[wooden coral]

Playing around with pixart sigma

Sometimes its really good and sometimes I get utter trash

[brittle rampart]

👍 😁

[ivory pebble]

Basically every single model in a nutshell

[wooden coral]

Yeah but this is like the SD3 beta that ran different models and all 4 outputs were vastly different

Maybe my workflow sucks

[ivory pebble]

I know I'm just joking, to be honest I haven't even tried it so who knows

[wooden coral]

Also prompting for Zelda gives Link

[ivory pebble]

Did the SD3 channel disappear or am I going crazy?

[wooden coral]

https://discord.com/channels/1002292111942635562/1230206273451069540

[ivory pebble]

Nvm I'm going crazy

It wasn't showing for some reason

[junior quest]

SD3 out?!

[ivory pebble]

Uhhh, I have no clue honestly

[junior quest]

oh I couldnt find any images of Ouyang Xueli from Cupid's Chocolates anime series. I mean in danbooru

anyone got images of her?

[ivory pebble]

That's the first time I've heard of that character

Let me see

[ivory pebble]

Oh wow there's actually 0 images 😭

Is she a new character?

[junior quest]

ah noo

from 2016 anime

hmm woow 0 images (pixiv)

guess I have to rewatch and get some images

[ivory pebble]

Yeah I can't seem to find anything either

[oak spoke]

wot?

[ivory pebble]

Nice art man, keep it up!

[silent kraken]

It has more grainy texture

You need to account for that

[steady grail]

you need to seriously add tendrils in negative lol

[wooden coral]

I dont use any negatives

[steady grail]

well, you can still add without tendrils in positive 🤣

[bitter latch]

haha

hmms ponders more idea's

haha

with hi-res fix

[steady grail]

cute

[acoustic locust]

were you given access or is it public now?

[rough oxide]

it's been "public" thru api

[cerulean cosmos]

im pretty afraid its going to be really slow on local

[rough oxide]

sounded like it runs fine on 4090 so should be fine

still not going past like consumer usage

[cerulean cosmos]

30-40 seconds per generation even on a 4090, image the rest of us then, and thats only 1024x1024

[rough oxide]

optimizations will probably come, that's how like sd 1.2 started

was super slow, then greatly sped up later on thru optimizations

[cerulean cosmos]

and i have a nseaking suspicion not everyone has 4090 here

[rough oxide]

seems like normal ai hardware to me, kekw.

[wooden coral]

I was on the closed beta server, but since the API released its not useable anymore

[cerulean cosmos]

30-40 sec on a 4090 is on 8B model tho, im sure there are otehr ones

[rough oxide]

multiple sizes were confirmed afaik

and emad on reddit confirmed the biggest model works with 4090 at the very least. guessing 3090 can do it but slower

[cerulean cosmos]

i think most people will settle for the 2b model

me included

[rough oxide]

i only use the best; 8b for me even if smaller can produce comparable-ish results

but it doesn't look like it's going to be too good for anime off the bat, might stick with nai until waifu diffusion 2.1(3.0 based)

[cerulean cosmos]

what makes u say that it wont be so good for anime?

[rough oxide]

as a base model

[nova remnant]

[rough oxide]

the anime outputs aren't that good off the bat for anime from what i've seen

[nova remnant]

Just fine tune it

[cerulean cosmos]

where anime output good on the old base models tho?

[nova remnant]

No

[rough oxide]

i was able to make a lot of good things on sdxl when it first came out, better than sd 1.5 finetunes

but i don't see 3's base model being as impressive of a leap forward for specifically anime

[nova remnant]

SDXL looked like plastic before months of fine tune

It wasn't good

[rough oxide]

if you put a lot of time into prompting & setting up a good workflow, it'd work.

[nova remnant]

[rough oxide]

this was pure sdxl

[nova remnant]

Sd3 base is good for anime then

Just put a lot of work in it

[acoustic locust]

ok

[acoustic locust]

did you test it yourself

[cerulean cosmos]

idk, ive seen some anime from sd3 and it looks quite good, but idk

[cerulean cosmos]

but its a little worrisome that staff only show the same fox girl in here with sd3 lol

[nova remnant]

Shiny nose

[nova remnant]

All I'm posting in the chat is sd3

These days

[supple raptor]

That's just pretty much all comfy ever gens and he's the one that posts in here most.

[cerulean cosmos]

yes haha, makes me wonder why tho, but its okey

[supple raptor]

he just likes fennec girls. even before SD3 she was pretty much the only thing he ever posted.

[nova remnant]

Lmao

Comfy will make sure every model makes fennec girls

A spy working for the fennec girls community inside sai

@cerulean cosmos

👍

[rough oxide]

still the same further distance eye problem and bad handz. it'll still be good when we get some finetunes off of it, hopefully sooner rather than later

[keen hollow]

someone had asked about my artist run...

[nova remnant]

Hires would be good

[nova remnant]

Yummy

[keen hollow]

maybe it was @unkempt cape ?

anyways...

Here's one set

[nova remnant]

ew

[nova remnant]

I don't see their names can you turn it up a little bit

Like turn up the upper uppingtons of the upperitons

[keen hollow]

I like this one better.

[nova remnant]

still can't see shit

Izumi??!!?

What

[keen hollow]

open it full size dingus

[nova remnant]

Lmao

[nova remnant]

Yung one, my glasses don't work as well as they did back in my days

Can you zoom in more in that picture

Cx

[bitter latch]

cackles

[green temple]

yo guys

how to fix this

i think this is why im getting black images

is there a line to ignore it or fix it ?

[nova remnant]

watchu looking at

[vital raptor]

from what i can tell it has something to do with a broken lora, or upscaler model but it's hard to tell

[green temple]

Maybe different upscaler can work idk

[unkempt cape]

?

[unkempt cape]

I think i said something about the set all looking samey

[bitter latch]

there better

ok.. better

[brittle rampart]

her face a very very cute

[nova remnant]

hello funyaa

shes litening to space man

for sure

[brittle rampart]

😉

[gloomy lodge]

what model?

[zinc flax]

autism confetti

[nova remnant]

Big model

Approved

@brittle rampart cookies for you

[brittle rampart]

i see today you using a new model?

[nova remnant]

It's SD3

I mostly use that and pony cause they are the 2 I can use while I'm on my phone

And I'm always too lazy to be on PC gaming stuff cx

[brittle rampart]

@nova remnant SD3? not interesting... pressed the button that said “make it beautiful” and that’s it 🥴

[junior quest]

kondo nanda?

[nova remnant]

Cheating

[nova remnant]

I don't know what that is

[junior quest]

just forget bout dat

[bitter latch]

runs a batch

runs a batch of this

ooh

grinz evilly... let's get crazy

ok it got better.. whta?

guess it's just me this morning

[wispy canopy]

was cooking up some sort of thing. lol. I think i have figured out how dynamic cfg works 😮

[bitter latch]

nice

not sure why i'm in a ninj girl mood

but.. shrugs

[wispy canopy]

hey, everyone has moods at every time

[wispy canopy]

when i'm using playground v2.5, i love the creepy porcelain dolls

aight, lets see what my upscale workflow will do with this image 😮

it'll just take 2 minutes for all 28 steps 😮

oh, the name in the upperleft is the artist name that pony responds to, not sure if it's an actual trained artist in pony -> but i know pony responds to it

[bitter latch]

I think batman's in trouble

[wispy canopy]

ngl, this one looks quite well 😮

[bitter latch]

looks good

[wispy canopy]

perhaps lower the initial sigma on the upscale 🤔

[bitter latch]

now this would be a interesting bat ninja

[wispy canopy]

gib prompt tho, wanna throw it in my upscale mix 😄

[bitter latch]

vivid colors, medium view, dynamic action, Full body portrait, illustrated air brush, Kinuchi-Ninja Quinn joker Bat-Girl, wearing stockings, ninja dress, headband, leaf background, realistic, photo, movie, soft edges, multi-shaded colors, anime overtones, line art style, Midjourney style, hypernet:mjv4Hypernetwork_v1:0.8octane render, finely Detailed, elegant, sharp, focused, Gradient color, soft shaded, UHD, Hires, HQ, elegantly detailed, 4k, black thin outline art style

[wispy canopy]

that's on a sd1.5 model i suppose?

[bitter latch]

yep

one I made 😄

[wispy canopy]

else i'd have said -> pony doesn't support quite some of those tags

[bitter latch]

well a mix

I've saved a bunch of styles I like to mix and match 😄 , saves time

[wispy canopy]

well, who hasn't made their own mix/model at this time? 😛

[bitter latch]

ooh

[wispy canopy]

i took the liberty to change your prompt up a bit ^^ think it will be a cool initial result

[wispy canopy]

interesting way of holding lol

[bitter latch]

adds in the more detail lora

hmm o.. k then

[wispy canopy]

might not be your taste, but i like it nonetheless

[bitter latch]

unhinged canadian ninja?

[wispy canopy]

hey, you specified leaves 😮

[bitter latch]

changes it up

there we go: Naruto Quinn

ooh a female Naruto Raised by Harley quinn after she left the joker

or the joker died, would make a interesting fanfic. ya know I bet it exists

checks

[wispy canopy]

there's always the clusterfuck called injustice

shame about the right hand tho 😮

[bitter latch]

dmn pc locked up and I lost the one I was making. sigh

checks only fanfiction not archiveofourown.. that way leads to danger

hmm ok I guess it doesn't exist

[wispy canopy]

very little quinn left in this one tho

[bitter latch]

oh boy Naruto: My Harem Academia--- Chapters: 125 - Words: 151,775 -

[wispy canopy]

@bitter latch here we go!

[bitter latch]

"hiya bats! I been training!..(hand appears out of thin air, smack on back of head) I mean cough, Greetings Honored Bat.. umm.. man? "

[bitter latch]

that shadow!

[wispy canopy]

yeah, too bad that one is fucked.

stable diffusion is gonna diffusion xD

[bitter latch]

well I mean it shows the choas that is her

so it fits

[wispy canopy]

heh.

[bitter latch]

tho the best naruto fanfic crossover was where naruto found an ancient armor with blades on it and a school with the sign of "The Foot" on it, and new era begins again.

😄

hmmm thats an idea Naruto Shredder

I really should go back to bed

[brittle rampart]

he's gorgeous

in your own swamp! by moonlight

[nova remnant]

Cx

I made such dramatic scene

Just to prompt Shrek after lmao

X3

[brittle rampart]

🤣

[bitter latch]

A New Shredder Arises and is in Gotham!

[nova remnant]

@brittle rampart how's your day going fuuunya , here's a meow

[bitter latch]

uhh oh

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

Another one to the party

[bitter latch]

meow

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

meow back

[bitter latch]

ok last one , going back to bed

ok NOW last one

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

Fluffy white fur ball!

[nova remnant]

fluffy in prompt can't go wrong

[bitter latch]

falls over thud

[green temple]

my first 4k !!!!! @brittle rampart thanks for help

[nova remnant]

I'm eepy

[nova remnant]

Sooooma

[green temple]

!!!!!

[green temple]

2.5 min per image

[brittle rampart]

damn! it must be a cat! 🥴

[green temple]

noice !

[brittle rampart]

noice?! hmmm ok raddit ears - is noice

[green temple]

yes nice !

[spice shard]

help

[vital raptor]

hmm, the restart sampler is half the speed (5-6it/s vs 10-12it/s) but produces just as good, if not better, results at 10 steps instead of 30 🤔

of course, what is 'good' or 'better' is highly subjective, but it seems like a reasonable trade off for a bit more speed

[ivory pebble]

Looks the same honestly, is it better than euler a tho?

I remember people were talking about that sampler when Pony got released and apparently it's better than euler a, however I've never really tried it

[junior quest]

tried wariza pose, seems like its not work on pony

[junior quest]

hmm hes promising so many things

[nova remnant]

Are they for me?

[nova remnant]

Not per image

Per smol!

[green temple]

[rough oxide]

is this already out? wut model is this? (but also only hundreds of characters? pfffff.)

[junior quest]

4th tail

[rough oxide]

ahh, doesn't seem as ambitious as animagine xl based on wut it says in desc

o there's also 5th tail which is a finetune off of 3.1 though

[nova remnant]

The hell are tails

[rough oxide]

wat

[nova remnant]

What does this mean

[rough oxide]

tail is to the left of this

that is wut a tail is

[nova remnant]

Ugly character

[junior quest]

a model

[nova remnant]

It's better than NAI at tails

That's pretty questionable

Both on why tails and why it needed to be said lmao

[rough oxide]

nai is only model that gives this obscure af char her tail. other models might produce like a partial result on the char but never her tail xD

granted it messes up her hair color 80% of the time (shuld be green)

[nova remnant]

Just make a lora

[rough oxide]

can't use loras on this model

[nova remnant]

I'm saying for any other models

[rough oxide]

i dun like loras

i prefer all-in-one models

xD

animagine xl 3.1 for local & novelai for private

[nova remnant]

Well

:shrug:

[rough oxide]

her hair color is fixed by just writing "green hair"

supr simple fix lol

[nova remnant]

Still ugly random character

[rough oxide]

but just genning her without that she always gens with like

blue/pink/brown hair

nu i luv her

and she isn't randumb

she is the sister of wynn

and connected to charmers, eventually becomes shaddoll-ized

then reborn

she has tons of lore

i use her reborned form the most tbh, super useful in random decks

[nova remnant]

That's extremely random to me

It's a Yu-Gi-Oh card

[rough oxide]

wat isn't a yu-gi-oh card

there's even jotaro jostar as a yugioh card

and the entirety of dante's comedies

magical girls, vtubers, etc.

[nova remnant]

Wtf

Lmao

[nova remnant]

What's that hand sign exactly

[zinc flax]

No clue, got that randomly lol

[nova remnant]

[bitter latch]

it's either V for victory, or I"ll take 2

[nova remnant]

Yeah usually you prompt "v" on pony and it does that

But later I noticed it was 3 fingers up lmao

[rough oxide]

or peace. i know it as peace sign or victory sign (and for nai you have to use "peace sign" instead of v)

[green temple]

"hi "

[dire bridge]

lol

[versed jay]

One question, what is the seed option for in the stable?

[nova remnant]

not smol

[green temple]

character from higurashi

called rena

it`s not the same hair color but np

[nova remnant]

ugly

[green temple]

😭

[nova remnant]

there were artists in the prompt

now coot

@green temple more smols for you

[green temple]

mottoo !!! ( more ! ) @nova remnant

[vital raptor]

euler a tends to have more variation the more steps you have, but ultimately most generations are basically the same across all samplers, it's the smaller details that change and it's all subjective on which is better for your own uses

[acoustic locust]

What model?

[nova remnant]

SD3

[nova remnant]

wtf

[green temple]

💀

[acoustic locust]

That looks really finetuned for sd3

How?

[nova remnant]

Just prompt I dunno

it was "A cute small girl with pink dress and cat ears with bright eyes, pretty skin, and a cute smile, adorned with a crown of flowers and a tangle of vines down the trees, her hair is a light shade of blonde, in the magical garden of the castle, whimsical style of japanese anime style"

[unkempt cape]

looks about what i'd expect tbh

normal sdxl can do abit of anime too

[nova remnant]

about what I expected

sips wine

[steady grail]

don't go overboard. if something of dubious taste or offend you, just ask politely the author to delete it, or ping the staff to take action. don't sour the mood of the channel plz

[native halo]

sam price presence offends me pls delete him

[nova remnant]

We need to do something about it

And it's gonna be thick

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/pacman-pacman-ghosts-minus8-pacman-ghosts-dance-gif-22437758

[steady grail]

one of the characters show her underwear. it's not a little too much explicit?

[native halo]

dw im gonna talk to her right now

[nova remnant]

Wtf

[native halo]

not from below ?

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

@nova remnant early morning coffee?

[nova remnant]

She has a bouquet in her sleeves

Super secret gift

[brittle rampart]

she had to free her hands to hold the cup! 😂

[brittle rampart]

oki-doki, then!

[nova remnant]

my gift

Morning cat

[nova remnant]

What about cup with hands

[brittle rampart]

Scarryyyyy! how drink coffee from this is ?

[nova remnant]

chin massage while you drink

👍

[brittle rampart]

the main thing is just the cheeks and nothing else with such and such hands!

[junior quest]

https://github.com/Akegarasu/lora-scripts
anyone use this?

dunno how to install dis

[brittle rampart]

i think guy`s from tech support chanal help you with this

[brittle rampart]

againe Sd3?

[nova remnant]

yess

[brittle rampart]

tell me, how you all use this is?

[nova remnant]

@brittle rampart so white shes blinding

cx

[green temple]

❤️

[nova remnant]

bubbol

[junior quest]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-drunk-man-falling-drunk-man-this-was-a-pretty-popular-meme-gif-26183721

[nova remnant]

You okay

[junior quest]

yesh yesh daijobudesu

its stunning

[nova remnant]

Now you mention it

I forgot or haven't seen much pony/autism gens with bubbles

[junior quest]

pony?

[nova remnant]

No, sd3

[junior quest]

bubbles

[nova remnant]

A not so safe to touch bubble

I added Lego movie to the exploding bubble I'm going off rails here

[junior quest]

oh wooow

wait is he flying?

floating

[nova remnant]

The super powerful Lego piece

[junior quest]

super saiyan

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-super-saiyan-dragon-ball-z-rage-anime-gif-16386028

wrong color

[nova remnant]

Super Saiyan fox!

[junior quest]

where its aura

[nova remnant]

Hmmmmm

Maybe it's just the first power level thing

weak fox

[unkempt cape]

Hopefully when people inevitably finetune sd3 for anime, they will have artists in tags

Don't finetune with images of a specific set of anime styles (that sounds weird as hell), because result will be garbage

[native halo]

anything else?

[unkempt cape]

skibidi toilet

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/nonioona-sam-smith-brits-gif-27546214

[unkempt cape]

damn bro u got famous 👏👏👏

[native halo]

*you're

[unkempt cape]

damn bro YOU'RE got famous

thank you english was me two language

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-gif-22328611

[unkempt cape]

Our*

[unkempt cape]

are you using the api key or some other options?

I rlly wanna try using this for myself

no credit )):

[nova remnant]

Look dm

[unkempt cape]

Man first time using kaggle

And like did alot of things and wondered why nothing works

APPARENTLY INTERNET IS NOT ON BY DEFAULT😢😢😢

Bro wtf is this design choice

[ivory pebble]

I'm not sure honestly, even NAI removed artist tags from their new model, and artist tags were pretty much the only reason why people even used it/payed for it

It's also pretty much confirmed that PonyV7 won't have artist tags, so yeah...

Unless someone who has enough money to make a model as powerful as NAI/Pony with artist tags then it's not looking good 😭

[native halo]

because artists loras are better than merging artists onto the model unless you have NAI money

[junior quest]

but its kinda pain to use loras

[ivory pebble]

Innate artists will always be better than artist loras, every single artist lora that I have used hasn't been as flexible as an Innate artist.

But then again it's just like you said, you'll need a lot of money to make a model that can actually replicate artist styles without losing that flexibility, which is why I mentioned Pony and NAI

[vital raptor]

thats just bad training

[native halo]

yes if your card can fit thousands of artist images(or if you can find them) to add to your checkpoint its better to do it that way

[vital raptor]

models are moving away from using artists tags because they're (possibly) infringing on copyright by taking a bunch of an artists works and training their model on them and then leaving the name in the data so people can replicate their style, most of the larger providers have been dealing with lawsuits over it

removing the tags means they can still 'steal' the art but not have direct proof of it

and also, you won't be able to directly reference it to replicate the style as easily

what i'm wondering, is how will they reference the styles though, because a model like pony knows hundreds of styles, but without tagging them directly it just spits out the same ugly default style

[ivory pebble]

To be honest the main reason why I (and many other people I assume) use these models is to replicate and merge different artists together. But I understand, I guess there isn't much we can do about it

[native halo]

maybe they will get a better version of ipadapter and u will only need to upload a pic of your fav artist and it will copy the style

[vital raptor]

that would be pretty cool actually

[ivory pebble]

Astralite talked about it in the PonyXL discord, seems interesting but I have no idea how it's gonna work

[vital raptor]

for realistic images it's a bit easier, since there's not really a 'style' in the same way as illustrated art, so it's easy enough to train a lora on a particular face/person and then merge it with a model and have something custom no matter where the images came from

for anime stuff it's a whole different thing

[ivory pebble]

They've been talking about these "super artists" for a while but I'm not exactly sure what they are

[vital raptor]

as long as there is some kind of master list of all the trained 'styles' that's fine

most likely all it is, is changing the names before training

[ivory pebble]

It will be fun to mess around with, that's for sure

[ivory pebble]

You mean like, changing an artists name to something else?

[vital raptor]

instead of tagging an image with 'nemu' you tag it with 'notnemu' or 'superartist34' or whatever

[ivory pebble]

Ahh okay, makes sense

[vital raptor]

it's still using their art and style, but putting it under a different token/tag

[ivory pebble]

And lets just hope we can get a list for all these new tags, cause if not then it's gonna be such a pain to prompt for all of them one by one 😭

[unkempt cape]

? wut since when

[ivory pebble]

Their new Furry v3 model has no artist tags

Which makes me think if they're gonna do the same for their next anime model

[unkempt cape]

NAI don't you love fucking money??

[ivory pebble]

My guess is that they probably will end up removing them, they're a big ass company and they don’t wanna risk dealing with lawsuits

[vital raptor]

of course they like money, that's why they're removing tags so they don't have to pay the artists they stole the work from 😄

tbh, i don't think anyone should have to pay for training a model with peoples art as long as it's derivative enough, which pretty much means not being able to replicate their exact style/character/whatever

but, i have no interest in copying anyone either, and i don't generate existing characters, so i'm a little biased

[ivory pebble]

Now if they somehow decide to leak the NAIv3 model then that's a game changer

Highly unlikely but I got hopes

[junior quest]

hmm hmm I like dat

but whos gonna do dat

[outer crown]

Why are you putting a choker on a child?

Sexualized poses, or borderline underage sexualized characters in particular cannot be shared in this server. Heavier actions such as time-outs or bans will be considered on repeated offences.

@vital raptor

[supple raptor]

I like the new little leaf symbol they gave to mods

[junior quest]

mmm exactly

[green temple]

Wooooow !

[charred horizon]

which model

[ivory pebble]

NovelAIv3

[charred horizon]

link?

[ivory pebble]

Just type in Novelai, literally the first thing that pops up on google

[charred horizon]

how is it different from midjourney?

[ivory pebble]

Not sure how midjourney works but Novelai is uncensored and it has artist tags + it's really good at mixing those artists together. Also knows pretty much every anime character that has over 100/200 images on danbooru

[supple raptor]

NovelAI is a closed source finetuned SDXL model and also has a few unique features available through their service. Vibe Transfer which is similar in use to ipadapter, but they claim that isn't what it actually is and SMEA samplers which don't have an opensource equivalent. SMEA samplers somehow handle larger resolutions better (I have no idea how or why it works, but they really do reduce the typical problems that you would get when generating above the model's trained resolution. They also provide API access which can be convenient for allowing you to do things like doing a hires-fix pass (upscale+img2img) using local models.

Midjourney... we don't really know what it is because they're more secretive about that. Allegedly it's not based on Stable Diffusion at all.

[nova remnant]

How big of resolution can those samples do

stupid people with money

[supple raptor]

~1536x1536 equivalent seems to be no problem for them which was about as big as they let you go on NAI. I mainly used them when upscaling images since they tend to make styles a bit softer than I usually want at normal 1024x1024 equivalent resolutions which is the max size you can do unlimited gens on the Opus Tier sub (Opus Tier is the only one that's actually worth while). Depending on how often you gen and especially how often you want to upscale your images, most people could probably get away with only subbing to Opus Tier once every 3-4 months and using the 10k credits that it gives you to gen normally in between.

[nova remnant]

Holy typing nubby Batman

1500 base with good conference

[supple raptor]

yesh

[nova remnant]

When I used 1.5 every 100 resolution an extra leg would pop up

[supple raptor]

A few of us have been bugging one of the guys at NAI to make SMEA open source since they created it.

It's not likely to happen anytime soon

[nova remnant]

Could samplers be used on other models

Like 1.5 or sd3

[supple raptor]

Not SD3. SD3 doesn't use samplers as we think of them.

It's basically an LLM.

That just makes images instead of text.

[nova remnant]

I have absolutely zero idea of the inner working of those things

[supple raptor]

Maybe if/when NAI makes an SD3 model they'll grace us with opensource SMEA.

[nova remnant]

[junior quest]

fingers cross

[bitter latch]

hmm forgot to change the model

was making a Picture of two mules side by side in full tac on farm land... ok then

gues sit's from an anime?

oh I put framing instead of farming.. hahahaha

[bitter latch]

well tried a different and it did it again... hmmm?

[bitter latch]

hmm kinda reminds me of that game, death stranding

[nova remnant]

so fun to prompt with sd3

"she has a pink themed outfit and is prepared to the fanciest party in the castle"

lmao

[green temple]

cool

[bitter latch]

cute adorable girl "she has a pink themed outfit and is prepared to the fanciest party in the castle"

BING

😄

non-bing better

[nova remnant]

that first one, at night, definitely turns into a creepy doll inside the big mansion

Im outta here

[bitter latch]

want a laugh, i'm tryint to do two mules side by side, well it did it but....

[nova remnant]

lmao

[bitter latch]

sigh

lavern and shirley

[charred horizon]

yeah i got their sub to try out midjourney , their pics are all over the place lol , but it feels like its highly tuned somehow

[nova remnant]

Smol looks worried

[green temple]

[nova remnant]

the paw

(I copied the thumbnail im stoopid, here full res)

[green temple]

!!!!!!!!

[nova remnant]

Smol

What do I gen

I'm out of non Shrek ideas

[nova remnant]

This gives me an idea

@green temple gave present to smol

👍

And one day I'll know how to not generate snow inside

[green temple]

😍

[nova remnant]

Box

She found a portal

Inside a box

cx

Just like the emote!

@brittle rampart look at him

[broken fractal]

they again so cute ❤️ https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ccE3geiSV6Q

[acoustic locust]

the model for sd3 better release soon

[broken fractal]

😅 @brittle rampart

[wooden coral]

Is that a threat?

[vital raptor]

what's with all these randoms tagging me lately

[wooden coral]

Randoms do random things

[vital raptor]

had one earlier pretending to be a mod and threatening me with punishment for my image, talk about needing a hobby..

[brittle rampart]

It's just a burden of popularity! 🤣

[vital raptor]

i'm popular? 😮

[brittle rampart]

why not?

[junior quest]

anyone got a advice for pony lora training?

trained a horrible character lora

[wooden coral]

Try harder

[junior quest]

deym

[wooden coral]

tbh my loras werent any better

[junior quest]

[wooden coral]

Im currently trying to make PixArt work, but stand alone pixart is kinda bad quality wise

Gotta try anime with it

[ivory pebble]

https://rentry.org/59xed3

Found this on 4chan, it's quite a long read but I think it might help you

[zinc flax]

Don't mind them, they're just an alt acc lol
I got the same treatment

[wooden coral]

Refined PixArt output

Kinda bland and boring

[wooden coral]

Here we got something more unique

[junior quest]

hmm read, eh but I dunno cant find a option

[wooden sail]

Reference_Only on PonyXL

[acoustic locust]

Maaaybe 😈

[green temple]

ofc !

[junior quest]

ahh its not going

[unkempt cape]

is webui allowed on kaggle guys?

[nova remnant]

@brittle rampart ready to party

[brittle rampart]

catodeejay!

[nova remnant]

That's a good idea

Famous headset + animal ears combination cx

[brittle rampart]

yeeeeiiiii!

[nova remnant]

I put picnic

SD have me a single fruit on a plate

[brittle rampart]

you must be in form!