🍥｜anime

[glacial bane]

So scary..Make it chibi now

I love it

[wheat quarry]

That is the point i tried making Itadori Yuji form JJK as a curse but it didn't turn out as i would have loved but thank you glad you like it

[brittle rampart]

guys... who know what it that and how working with it?

i am see it all time after restart A1111 UI

[brittle rampart]

Guys, tell me how to edit metadata in png using regular Windows tools

[vital raptor]

I really need to start using wider aspect ratios more often

[brittle rampart]

why?

[vital raptor]

because they look good

same prompt, but square

[brittle rampart]

doubtful

but undoubtedly square is not the best choice

[vital raptor]

that's highly subjective, but different aspect ratios can change what else is in the image besides the main focus

[brittle rampart]

The main thing is that in the end this main focus is not lost.

[marsh tree]

please check my model out https://civitai.com/models/170390

[brittle rampart]

oki-doki!

[marsh tree]

thanksssss T-T

@brittle rampart it would really help if you could dm your reactions but its fine if you can't tho T-T

[wet elm]

what is the easiest way to train an anime model?

[brittle rampart]

cute style

[steady grail]

charming

[steady grail]

she is a ghost?

[steady grail]

cute

[zinc flax]

It's super cute I love it

[steady grail]

yeah 🤣

[zinc flax]

Diabetes inducing

[steady grail]

looks like blessed vae

[silk narwhal]

just f8-anime2 🙂

[steady grail]

never used it

[gusty palm]

any new developments?

#📣｜announcements message is this a auto111 thing

[steady grail]

what's 1 novel view? a 2d image with 3d colors?

[silk narwhal]

view from top,front,back and sides in a single image i believe

[steady grail]

oh

a skin for 3d models i suppose

[steady grail]

that could be really useful

too bad i already have my hands full to test even on it

[silk narwhal]

food time

[near elbow]

well enough, depending on the definition of well? 🙂

[brittle rampart]

mythbusters!

[keen hollow]

evenin'

[terse ore]

I'm trying to fix hands via inpaint but each gen looks bad. Do I have to keep trying like a hundred times or something?

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-laptop-cat-busy-cute-gif-5822667

Here comes nubby

[supple raptor]

inpainting hands without fixing them first or at least adding a depth map is usually a hopeless process.

[terse ore]

If they were fixed, then why inpaint them at all? And when you say depth map, I assume controlnet?

[supple raptor]

fix as well as you can then inpaint at low denoising to blend them into the style of the model better and make up for lacking art skills. also, yes by depth map I mean with controlnet.

[terse ore]

Ah I see. I'm using the PS SD plug-in and it has a controlnet inpaint option but I'm not sure how to use it. I'll have to research I guess

[supple raptor]

Yeah, I'm not sure on that. I use the Krita plugin which sadly doesn't support controlnet.

[terse ore]

If you ever need to know how to get the "free" PS version, you know who to call 😉

[brisk valley]

idk if it's a good idea to say that in a server like this one

[terse ore]

I won't say it here

[stable crane]

so cute, girl on left new?

[zinc flax]

Not really new

[vestal crypt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1041682785418629125/1186408614274019457/pixai-1693582512396001403-0.png?ex=65932420&is=6580af20&hm=eda048a521f78dd199bfae8d23e8de0e493407dd5010eb63da5749b395516028&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=496&height=662

[dusty siren]

Turn outfit to santa costume and the gems to ordainments pls for science

[brittle rampart]

Miku Day from Kakigory V3

[wispy canopy]

and... merging again?

[supple raptor]

Making the crystals into ornaments is going to take some manual edits and I'm away from my PC for the night so here's Flandre in a Santa hat for now

[wispy canopy]

so many moons 😄

[steady grail]

wow, i really wanted to do something like this

but prompting a character laying properly on a bed is hard

expecially embrancing something

[brittle rampart]

Really?

[steady grail]

i couldn't do it properly 😦

[steady grail]

i couldn't get a proper bad

[steady grail]

cute XD

the surface my character were laying, was always bare and plain

it was unnatural

[brittle rampart]

maybe try some thing that (sleeping in bed in the fetal position:1.2),(hugs:1.25 an electric guitar),

[steady grail]

let's try it out

[brittle rampart]

oki-doki

[steady grail]

i should rest now, but honestly, i am too much tempted

they are very charming

[steady grail]

i love that model

and how you generate with it

[brittle rampart]

last masterpiece,best quality,absurdres,detailed background,perfect correct anatomy,portrain:1.35,1girl,[solo:medium:1.25],a young preteen (red foxgirl:1.5 sleeping in the fetal position:1.25),([hugs the planet earth:medium:1.45] in space:1.3),serious,severe eyes,fluffy foxtail,space,stars,galaxy,nightie,(brilliant red:1.2 hair),long hair,wild hair,pastel colors,soft shadow,chromatic aberration,ambient oclusion,cimenatic light, and some LoRa`s

[brittle rampart]

hugs are cute

[brittle rampart]

spring, sakura, and ..... Fuji

[wispy canopy]

epic shot, anime, dramatic cherry blossom, official art, portrait, flat shading, wind, sideways glance, looking at viewer, , kind eyes, sensual smile

[brittle rampart]

I would also add petals in the wind

[wispy canopy]

yeah, it should have that ^^

[wispy canopy]

POOF! instant improvement

[brittle rampart]

Yep! you are the best!

look more lively

[steady grail]

what a shame, i can't post this

[brittle rampart]

What's happened?!

[steady grail]

young girl on night dress with too prosperous breast

[brittle rampart]

heh! this will be appreciated by many here

[steady grail]

if it wasn't for this, it was so cute

generating is so heart warming

[brittle rampart]

show it, don't be tormented!

[steady grail]

almost completed the next

looks more tame

[brittle rampart]

you do it!

[steady grail]

yep

it's so charming, it's warming my soul 💖

ai can be so charming

coadaptor repth is incredible

pretty sure if i add even concat it will became even better

[brittle rampart]

I'll be happy to see the results

[steady grail]

me too

i love playing with ai

but i have so many things to do

i wonder if i should just to use lcm. end result are way different, sometimes less cute, but way faster

taming it and with the use of lora. maybe i can gen better results

[brittle rampart]

LCM? what is that?

[steady grail]

a sampler

they made a lora that let you gen something with steps as low as 5-8

at max 16 steps you get very good images

[brittle rampart]

LMS Karras?!

[steady grail]

after 16 is rarely worth adding more

[brittle rampart]

or LMS

[steady grail]

https://education.civitai.com/quickstart-guide-to-lcm-lora-acceleration-modules/

[steady grail]

is promising, when tamed

[brittle rampart]

ah... Comfy....

[steady grail]

if i'm not wrong, you can use it on auto1111 too

if you don't have the sample, maybe you need an extension

load the lora, drop cfg between 1-2 and steps at 16

at first, try max 8 steps

[brittle rampart]

oki-doki

lets try

hmmm 30% faster... but

[wispy canopy]

I think you can, since last release, else you'd have to install animatediff extension, they have the sampler built in

[steady grail]

oh ok

it's just insane how many things you can do with comfy

his community is fantastic

so many deloper creating in tthe name of art

or porn 😮‍💨

[brittle rampart]

to each his own

[steady grail]

i suppose so

[wispy canopy]

'science'

[steady grail]

oh, that's that too, right

[wispy canopy]

Got pixart working on comfy too, that model is also very fun to work with

But it's just not as well trained or finetuned

[steady grail]

pixart?

the controlnet?

[wispy canopy]

https://pixart-alpha.github.io/

A different model kind, totally unrelated to sdxl

[steady grail]

oh... abstract art

[wispy canopy]

It's a bitch to set up tho

Not only

[steady grail]

i could use to make gens more chaotic

i love it

vram required?

[wispy canopy]

20+2

The 20 is the t5 text encoder they use

[steady grail]

absolutely too much

[wispy canopy]

With comfy you can load it in cpu ram, which leaves only the inference model in vram

So it's not all bad

But you do need some normal ram to do it then

[steady grail]

i don't have 20g of ram

it's even more otragious

i never expected to need that much ram, i'm not managing a server

[brittle rampart]

@steady grail LCM - lost details! i am love a many details!

[native halo]

yes lcm has less details,u trade details for speed

[steady grail]

lcm need to be tamed, that sampler is more focused on the prompt

[brittle rampart]

then it's not my choice!

[native halo]

it works great if u like creating images in the flat color style

[steady grail]

i'm generating with lcm, but for now without lora, because my workflow is still incomplete and very chaotic

[brittle rampart]

oki-doki....

two fuji! fantastic!

[steady grail]

the other is his lost brother raiji

[brittle rampart]

I think the Japanese would have kicked us by now!

[steady grail]

uahahaha

ok, my puns deserve this and more

i'm the nightmare of every social group

[brittle rampart]

you are on a roll today!

[steady grail]

eheheh

just to say i wanted to rest

i really don't like result from lcm

i just leave it for the pose gen

i suppose that my gens today reflect my desire to just rest lol

[brittle rampart]

good night then

[steady grail]

i'm generating, i'll stop when i'm dead ❤️‍🔥

[karmic pewter]

how to generate a picture?

[nova remnant]

this kinda looks cool

[brittle rampart]

using a prompt

[nova remnant]

damn, looks rich

[nova remnant]

the light effect looks pretty neat

[nova remnant]

rawwr

[silk narwhal]

thanks

[brittle rampart]

She's scary when she's angry!

[karmic pewter]

well i know that, but in this discord plate, how can i draw a picture via prompts?

@brittle rampart

i am newbie

[brittle rampart]

I've never asked this question here. I use local Automatic 1111

[karmic pewter]

@brittle rampartok, I know that, thanks a lot!

[keen hollow]

morn'

Today's Tifa.

[karmic pewter]

by the way, the cartoon girl is really charming

[brittle rampart]

thanks. she was born to be charming!

[karmic pewter]

woo, that's great

where are you from?

[karmic pewter]

your name is rare, a little bizarre.

[native halo]

source?

[brittle rampart]

m?

[nova remnant]

kpop girls look like anime cuties

[karmic pewter]

yes

[brittle rampart]

true!

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-star-anime-konata-izumi-computer-desktop-gif-14835314

[steady grail]

ok, i'm literally sleeping in place

gotta go sleep, see ya

[brittle rampart]

I found an ingenious way to correct crooked hands and fingers when generating! Draw big floofy cat gloves - paws!

[nova remnant]

how?

lol

thats not gonna help with cute girls

[brittle rampart]

really #🍥｜anime message

[native halo]

since we spaming non anime girls

[nova remnant]

cute

[nova remnant]

nawwwww not cute

[brittle rampart]

no forgiveness for you!

[native halo]

yes obama my favorite anime

i should spam 100 pics of him here

[nova remnant]

eww dude

obsessed over obama?

with trump hair too?

this is the end sign

the world needs more cute pics

[brittle rampart]

guys.... Tell me, is it possible to change PNG Info using standard Windows tools?

hate this is!

[nova remnant]

not sure you can edit metadata like that

[brittle rampart]

of couse!

but HOW!?

[nova remnant]

i dunno lol, i didnt think it was possible to do that

[native halo]

just edit the img in paint and then save it again and it will remove all the sd tags

[nova remnant]

but thats not editing

[brittle rampart]

it will remove all the sd tags not good idea

[native halo]

thats the best part

[brittle rampart]

only one word!

[brittle rampart]

Чёрт!

[nova remnant]

render the same image with same seed and edit out the tag

[brittle rampart]

it change the image

[vital raptor]

don't generate with that word to begin with, use young girl or something

only tools I know of off hand remove the metadata completely, I've never looked into editing it

[brittle rampart]

this is was gothic lolita dress

[nova remnant]

so they block lolita keyword on civitai?

[brittle rampart]

yep

[native halo]

so called western experts when they find out about lolita fashion

[nova remnant]

sounds odd but i think it could be due to depicting minors

but tbh most anime girls look minor too

[native halo]

specially the ones with 4 arms,tails or animal ears

[nova remnant]

depicting minors with certain poses could be the cause i guess

[vital raptor]

i wonder if it would catch it if you used gothic_lolita instead

[native halo]

they dont like girls with mouse ears,its offensive to mice

[brittle rampart]

http://entropymine.com/jason/tweakpng/

[native halo]

ExifTool gui is better but i dont remember how to install it

[vital raptor]

https://github.com/FrankBijnen/ExifToolGui

[native halo]

yea that one

[vital raptor]

pretty sure you just download the .exe files for it and exiftool and put them in the same folder somewhere

[brittle rampart]

this is for A1111 UI extention?

[vital raptor]

no

it's a program to edit meta

[brittle rampart]

ah

[vital raptor]

although, I'm not sure if it will do what you want, i'm poking around in it right now

[brittle rampart]

Well, I’ve already achieved results with the program I showed you. so thank you very much for the moral support!

by the way. It’s quite strange why the A1111 doesn’t have such functionality.

[nova remnant]

lol clever.. 👍

[vital raptor]

for anyone else interested, exiftoolgui can do it, it's just a weird interface

[wooden coral]

The legendary ban hammer

[nova remnant]

lol

[brittle jay]

omg mods

nah jk

someone should use the whole novel of lolita as a prompt

[steady grail]

don't click them, they are scams

unless you want to lose your steam account

[supple raptor]

Damn. Looks like someone fell for it in under 2 minutes

[keen hollow]

what does it do?

[steady grail]

😔

[supple raptor]

It steals your discord and probably steam account too.

[keen hollow]

not with a single click on the steamcommunity domain it doesn't

certainly it requires further data entry or clicks

[steady grail]

it asks you to insert you steam data

[keen hollow]

ah

[steady grail]

facking a steam login

[keen hollow]

jerks

[steady grail]

if the same data are used on the mail, they log in your mail and steal accounts associated with it

pretty scummy, yes

[supple raptor]

Yep. It's a common scam in many different circles. They often also ask for 2fa tokens, just like the real site would so even that doesn't protect your account.

[keen hollow]

much more fun to just generate images of anime characters eating cheeseburgers

[steady grail]

ok returning afk, see ya 😴

[vital raptor]

there are a lot of factors in gen speed, the biggest is your GPU and drivers, SD vs SDXL, various optimization settings depending on how much vram you have, etc

first thing I would check is if your vram is maxing out and overflowing into system ram, if it is then that will cause a major slow down

as an example, an image that normally takes me ~15 seconds to generate will take almost 2 minutes if i go over my vram amount, it's a massive speed change

it would be even more severe on a slower system/gpu

the version of cuda, torch, and xformers could also be a factor, but unless you're running a fairly outdated and not updated version of a1111/comfy it should be updated enough to not really matter much

version: v1.7.0  •  python: 3.10.10  •  torch: 2.0.1+cu118  •  xformers: 0.0.20
This is current for a1111

or rather, what I have for a clean install of 1.7.0

[vital raptor]

Trying to make her eat the burger results in horrifying results, so I'm settling with holding a burger instead 😄

[vital raptor]

those are the versions that got installed when i installed a1111, i didn't do anything special

I did a clean install for 1.7.0 and left my 1.6.0 folder alone

but, i think it's the same versions for everything else

latest gpu drivers should improve speeds, I haven't heard of any recent driver issues at least

yeah

that's what I use

[nova remnant]

More farm less merge

[vital raptor]

express

looks like i havent updated drivers since october, maybe i'll do that 😛

[wispy canopy]

NOTABLE LOOT: 25 DIV VENTOR'S GAMBLE

😄

we decided to use it ourselves

next map -> covenant, badge, divinarius, 2 raw div

2 maps of total suck, 3rd map -> 2k purple and 2k blue essence

this league is SOOOO rewarding

[nova remnant]

I've been surviving off of id'd rares from the ground

I found a 8d ring not sure if self for that price

[nova remnant]

Weren't you mfing

[wispy canopy]

we weren't

[nova remnant]

Grouping then

Same thing

[wispy canopy]

right now i'm a duo -> a mana cursebot and hexblast miner

he removes my hexes all the time, but then again, i grant him tanky stats

fixed his build so he can run that ventor's, 10 quant + 55 rarity + 100% ele resist in total

the 3rd man of the party is missing tho 😦

[vital raptor]

What gpu are you using?

[nova remnant]

GTX 1660

Kek

[vital raptor]

1070

[nova remnant]

Your doubts are right

I don't think even SDXL is that slow

[vital raptor]

seems about right

with a 4090 i get around 6it/s with sdxl, hires passes are 1-2it/s

oh, so the 1024x1024 is from hires fix on a 512x512 gen?

[nova remnant]

What commandline arguments do you have

[vital raptor]

try something like hires 1.5x instead of 2x

my guess is you're running out of vram and it's dumping it into your system ram and slowing it down

[nova remnant]

no

Do you have xformers and medvram

I'm pretty sure you can have it

I tried comfy but didn't work for me

It should be normalvram on comfy I believe

I tried on a Linux thing, and there I could start it with normal vram

Bath time brb

[vital raptor]

based on a quick google, medvram is default in comfy

supposedly comfy will auto set those settings based on your GPU as long as you're using the default checkpoint loader node

did you try using a smaller hires scale?

i would try that first, would make it easier to confirm where the problem is

if 1.5x is still that slow, try 1.4x, 1.3x, etc keep going smaller until it's faster or hits 1.0x

[native halo]

driver issue

i get 19s/it on 1920x1080 hires fix

1060

[keen hollow]

evenin'

[keen hollow]

looks like a turkey burger 😛

[keen hollow]

need more superheroes...

[cyan burrow]

She a chimp?

Spider-Chimp

[keen hollow]

lol i didn't even notice

I've got AI eye now 😛

[vital raptor]

😄

chibi hulk i made a few days ago

[cyan burrow]

AI-eye is a gift! Do not squander it, our new gods have blessed you!

[keen hollow]

yikes

that will give me nightmares 😛

[cyan burrow]

What is this? The daughter of Hulk and Vision?

[vital raptor]

thanos girl 😄

[cyan burrow]

oh the daughter of Thanos and Hulk

makes sense

[vital raptor]

more nightmare fuel

[keen hollow]

X23?

[vital raptor]

i prompted 'wolverine girl' but all the ones with proper claws I can't post here, and I didnt bother to fix these ones

[keen hollow]

Tried to give him a little anime flair.

[cyan burrow]

You know what would be nightmare fuel? The child of Superman and Violator (from Spawn)

not the movie version

that one is just hilarious

they're working on finally rebooting Spawn as a movie in 2025

should be cool

[native halo]

my fav anime adaptation

💅

[cyan burrow]

how can people actually think Dwayne Johnson is natural and doesn't use steroids or at the very least TRT?

cause he has like a body not even possible for a man in his prime of testosterone levels and working out for 10 years with the best possible genetics

Hollywood has warped peoples image of what men and women look like in real life

[keen hollow]

do people think that?

I dont think anyone believes that lol

[cyan burrow]

oh there are those who believe that

they believe him when he says he's natural and doesn't take anything

when he suddenly at the age of 50 gains more muscle than he has in his whole life in just a year

like...I know they might not know a lot about steroids, but all I can think about is Dwayne "The Tren" Johnson

[native halo]

hes 100% natty,vegetarian,only drinks pure milk and eats lots of eggs,great genetics

[keen hollow]

he actually has said that? lol

[cyan burrow]

he's not vegetarian though 😛 He says "chicken and rice bruv"

yeah he has said he's natural

[native halo]

hes 100% natty like mike o'hearn

https://tenor.com/view/mike-ohearn-gif-5978288995841027384

[cyan burrow]

and that he's never taken steroids in his entire life except once when he was 18 to try it out and then never taking it again

oh yes

Mike's another total natty

just like Chris Hemsworth

the only actual natural actor with muscle is Henry Cavill

he's worked out since he was like 18 or 20. He never had a sudden spike in muscle mass. Only time he looked bigger was when he put on fat and got bigger arms cause of it 😛

but looking at Chris Hemsworth sudden muscle spike for Thor Love and Thunder, it's like...dude, that doesn't happen

guy is 40

[keen hollow]

they probably told him it was flintstone vitamins

[cyan burrow]

of course

but I can't blame the actors for taking steroids

it's like "Ok you're gonna make 20 million dollars, but we need you to put on some muscle. Can you do that?"

"No I don't want those 20 million bad enough to take testosterone"

[keen hollow]

probably destroys your liver or something

[cyan burrow]

cause they have access to doctors that would actually prescribe it and give them health checkups

nah not with the stuff they have access to

they have access to protective medication as well as pharmacological level testosterone

so they can do it as safe as possible

and testosterone, even at supralevels, won't fuck up your liver unless you already have like borderline cirosis or some weak liver. Or receive some tainted testosterone, or do it without protective medication

and they get doctors to give them the test and stuff so, if anyone can do it safer it's them. That's not to say they're completely safe. There's always risks, but they probably think 20 million dollars makes it worth the risk. I would

[keen hollow]

supergirl hyped up on steroids

[brittle rampart]

then I am 1 million percent sure that the result will not be missed 😂

[stable crane]

snap there goes cali

[nova remnant]

deleted a bunch of sdxl models

not very happy with sdxl face rendering

[brittle rampart]

Are the authors in a hurry to make a model quickly without worrying about quality? so to speak, on the crest of a wave of popularity of the format

[nova remnant]

i think the sdxl doesn't make it easy for authors to train models cause sdxl is resource heavy

[brittle rampart]

and this too.

[nova remnant]

its been a few months since sdxl release and you will see there are lot more newer version of sd1.5 models coming out than sdxl models

[brittle rampart]

What do you think influences this? complexity? resource intensity? unwillingness to lose popularity sd1.5 models?

[native halo]

money

[nova remnant]

its cause sdxl isn't as accessible as sd1.5, in terms of both training and usage

[brittle rampart]

of course

[brittle rampart]

Solas.. in my case I can’t even afford to think about spending several thousand to replace my computer.

1000-3000 euro thats crazzy! in my case

[nova remnant]

yeah we all feel that way

technology that are coming out are not in alignment with consumer buying power

[brittle rampart]

rather the strong influence of "mining" over the past few years.

because of this, prices for video cards and hard drives have skyrocketed

[nova remnant]

but the demand is not the actual problem, its the engineered scarcity this economy creates

[brittle rampart]

Perhaps you are right, I am very weak and far from economic issues.

[nova remnant]

difference between a girl in a jungle and a girl walking through a jungle.

[brittle rampart]

yeah... walking through

[nova remnant]

if you add closeup with walking through a jungle it will create an interesting visual effect

example

[brittle rampart]

closeup, a girl walking through a jungle this is ?interesting...

[nova remnant]

i think you'd have to mention the path she is walking on as well

like rocky road / path etc

im playing with nubby's model

a girl walking through a jungle at night. (closeup:1.2).. the path is filled with vines and rock. the visual effect like this one .....

[brittle rampart]

I played with her yesterday as Miku

[nova remnant]

1girl. pond

[brittle rampart]

100% result!

girl 1 piece. and a pond 1 piece!

[nova remnant]

:p

1girl. winter. mountains.

[brittle rampart]

btw, . or ,

[nova remnant]

wouldnt matter

[brittle rampart]

really?! I always thought it mattered in the prompt....

[nova remnant]

nah not really, the ui takes the words and interprets them

the sentence structure can have effect with or w/o , or .

[brittle rampart]

i must remember it!

[nova remnant]

although its easier to meaningfully construct sentences with ,

[glacial bane]

Is this AI? HARD TO TELL

[glacial bane]

How did you do it💀 near damn perfect

[brisk valley]

me?

[glacial bane]

No but i love your miku

[brisk valley]

then use the reply feature

[elfin bolt]

Yea

[glacial bane]

Sounds new

I haven't been on Sd for a few months now

Whats the reply feature?

And how to use it

[brisk valley]

you literally used it earlier

[glacial bane]

Making it my lockscreen

[brisk valley]

I'm talking Discord btw

[elfin bolt]

[glacial bane]

Ahhh my bad my bad

[brisk valley]

you sent this 20 seconds after I sent my image without reply so I got confused

[glacial bane]

Yee my Fault

[untold glacier]

It does matter. A period is said to be better at keeping ideas separate from one another, particularly when using SDXL.

[glacial bane]

What about ,

,

[untold glacier]

Commas work just fine, but theoretically to a lesser extent--at least with SDXL.

[nova remnant]

yeah i was saying the comma's wouldn't matter much with simplest of prompts

[brisk valley]

Technically the best way to prompt and save tokens is space and dashes instead of commas and space

[brittle rampart]

hmmm

[glacial bane]

Is SDXL the model you use or stable diffusion?

[untold glacier]

This isn't a matter of saving token space, but rather best prompting practices in helping CLIP to understand what exactly you're trying to do. Natural language processing, as it were.

[brisk valley]

I didn't say it was only to save tokens tho

[brittle rampart]

exactly

[brisk valley]

idk if I should argue

[untold glacier]

When I say SDXL, I'm referring to the latest Stable Diffusion generation of models that are out there. The ones that are made to work at 1024x1024 base-level generations, and different ratios of a similar pixel size.

[nova remnant]

since sdxl is more relevant to context using contextual sentences with , and . would make a difference but prompts that are 3 - 5 words won't have much complexity

[elfin bolt]

The best way to prompt is by hijacking in my brain

[brittle rampart]

Well, anyway, I should just check it on the same prompt and SD1.5. Which is better, a comma or a period?

[untold glacier]

SDXL often works best with sentence-based natural language prompting anyway. Though anime models are a different story, depending on the creators' training and model merges.

[untold glacier]

With 1.5 it's going to matter a lot less. Either/or should work just fine.

Commas are more popular there.

[glacial bane]

Ah my bad ty for the info though I'm still teaching a break from SD

[nova remnant]

yep, i find the use of comma meaningful to structurize an idea

but sometimes for the sake of lazy fun i use . to separate a couple or 3 words lol

[glacial bane]

Does anybody have a high end PC?

[untold glacier]

Define high end, lol.

[glacial bane]

What comes to mind when i hear High end is expensive technology

[brittle rampart]

guys, you have completely confused me!

[untold glacier]

I have what I'd consider to be a high-end PC within a non-AI-centered environment. But AI "high-end" is a scale.

[untold glacier]

In short, with 1.5 it doesn't matter so much.

Choose what you want.

[brittle rampart]

oki-doki

[nova remnant]

to avoid confusion, i have the obvious answer for it, speak to SD in language pattern 🙂

but even then... this is what i used in that image 1girl, rocky terrain, sunset.

[untold glacier]

Ah yes. Midjourney prompting, lol.

[nova remnant]

you know lol i never used MJ except for a very few try on discord bot

[untold glacier]

Same. But that's just about the level of prompting you need for a "great" end resulting image.

[nova remnant]

ahh

i kinda learned prompting by watching people on sd

though it started with chatgpt lol

didnt have sd then

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[brittle rampart]

language pattern -and now, as for a girl, can this be explained?

[untold glacier]

I certainly didn't understand it, lol.

[nova remnant]

sure, just speak the mind :p

[untold glacier]

If I can translate, perhaps you simply mean "tell it what you want"?

[nova remnant]

yes lol

[nova remnant]

i stopped using lcm lora

lcm lora is neat for references but for the actual image quality you wouldn't wanna settle with lcm lora

[untold glacier]

If only more people would realize this.

[brittle rampart]

lcm less details

[untold glacier]

Though it's usually good enough for a base-level gen if you're upscaling it after that without LCM.

[nova remnant]

yeah that too

[brittle rampart]

interesting method

[untold glacier]

It's not practical in my case, as the time it saves really is only a couple seconds, and I'd rather have the little bit more cohesion one gets from genning with a 2M Karras sampler at 20 steps.

[brittle rampart]

WHY not a 5 fingers!!!!! damn!!!!!

[nova remnant]

im back to using 30 steps 🙂

[untold glacier]

With which sampler?

[nova remnant]

mostly dpm++ 2m sde karras

[untold glacier]

It's said that exponential instead of karras works best with 2M SDE/3M SDE.

[nova remnant]

didnt know that, i should try it out

the difference would be strongly visible with higher res

the image tone i think has a visible difference from sde karras

[brittle rampart]

finally!!! On the 62nd attempt to fix right hand, I persuaded SD!

[nova remnant]

62 attempt? that's determination

[brittle rampart]

yep!

[nova remnant]

good job... i would give up if i had to try more than 5 times

[brittle rampart]

but she look very very cute!!!

I had to try to fix it

[nova remnant]

did you inpaint?

[brittle rampart]

yes

[nova remnant]

ahh... i hardly ever inpainted to fix hands

[brittle rampart]

then how do you fix it?

With this method I not only fix hands

[nova remnant]

i delete a lot of the images lol

[brittle rampart]

radically!

[untold glacier]

Anime Illustration Diffusion version 052 and the new 06 comparison. Long story short, slightly better prompt following, but a lot worse cohesion. Not worth the upgrade. https://civitai.com/models/124189

[brittle rampart]

in childhood the Demon King was a sweet, kind girl... and then bad companies... forest robbers....

[nova remnant]

the struggles of money corrupts

[brittle rampart]

It's all the bad influence of adult things!

[nova remnant]

not that love. that adult thing is the persuasion of money.

[brittle rampart]

money is evil!

[nova remnant]

there is a saying 'money is the root of all evil'

but as for necessity money is not to be confused with abundance of intrinsic resources

[brittle rampart]

and here! how correct is it to use constructions of this type [mystical dragon:medium:1.25] or constructions of this type (mystical dragon1.25)

[steady grail]

what do you use medium for?

to set the weight?

[brittle rampart]

I think this is for a more accurate follow. Well, a number for strength. in my understanding of this.

but I'm not completely sure

[steady grail]

so, you can set low and high?

[brittle rampart]

something like

i think soft, medium or hard

but not sure

why again not correct hand!

grrrrrr!

[nova remnant]

are you using any embedding for hands ?

[brittle rampart]

for positive lyco:GoodHands-beta2:1 and for negative : negative_hand-neg,bad-hands-5

[nova remnant]

ahh ok

those embeddings help a bit but not really 100%

[steady grail]

maybe conflicting embeddings and lora are conflicting with each other

[brittle rampart]

of course

[brittle rampart]

maybe

[nova remnant]

try using the embeddings in negative box only and see if that improves w/o lora

[brittle rampart]

oki- doki...

[steady grail]

or just impaint

[brittle rampart]

again try 62 steps or more?! its sadistic!

[steady grail]

62 steps are just too much, you will get relatively not differences

[brittle rampart]

I mean the number of attempts to fix

[steady grail]

ohhh

[brittle rampart]

as in the previous illustration

[steady grail]

you can try with manual editing

or adding correct hands on the image, lineart controlnet and another try

good hands are hard to elaborate. they are too small, too different from each other and not particurally trained

[brittle rampart]

regarding controlNet. With the latest versions, when using it, my generation is slow as hell.

[steady grail]

auto, right?

[brittle rampart]

what you mean?

oh.. yes

on a1111

[steady grail]

i moved on comfy, because my mid low end hardware was too slow of auto

ok, gotta go

[brittle rampart]

hmmm.. for me 2-3 minutes on generation not a prombem now. but with controlNet now it 20 min!

[steady grail]

last suggestion, try to play just with lora, embedding are very maginar with results

with 4gvram in 20min i gen a 2024x2024 image

yeahh, auto, is easier, but not very performing

[brittle rampart]

ahahaha... no LoRa - no problem!!!!

but this is not a solution!

[brittle rampart]

more better

[brittle rampart]

I WANT REALLY BIG DRAGON!!!!

[brittle rampart]

who know what is the difference between these models?

[nova remnant]

8s is lot stronger

[brittle rampart]

What does this mean?

[nova remnant]

the default settings need to be adjusted to lower settings for it, otherwise that might have distorted effect

try it out

the inpaint denoising strength might have to be lowerd from 0.4 to 0.2

[brittle rampart]

oki

[brittle rampart]

Crap! I want a dragon but.... I get are elf hugs!

interesting.... don't their ears bother them?

[brittle rampart]

hmmm.... that's where I'm wrong?!!?a young preteen child elf (hugging of big dragon:1.35) in the (deep mystical fantasy forest:1.2)

[brittle rampart]

where my big dragon!?1

[brittle rampart]

what two serious arguments she has!

[zinc flax]

The asset

[brittle rampart]

It's all cabbage!

they both grew up...

[brittle rampart]

eh...I can’t see the dragon... let’s radically change the concept....

[nova remnant]

milk

[brittle rampart]

damn!!! little... little emotion...

i want see more emotion!!!

[brittle rampart]

even her evil characters came out quite cute

heeelp... neeed help! how to make a magic circle shine?!?

[summer night]

novelai just goes and makes the best image models and then doesn't wanna freaking share!!! 😭

[brittle rampart]

m?

[summer night]

they added nai diffusion v3 and it's literally better than every anime style SDXL model available

[brittle rampart]

everything will melt over time

as it was originally with novelai

[zinc flax]

Doubt anything will come close to nai v3 unfortunately

It's the best anime model for now
until they release v4 that is lol

[brittle rampart]

let's wait...

[summer night]

i think the only reason community models surpassed nai v1 was because of reverse engineering of [REDACTED] and the ability to use extra networks

[brittle rampart]

the period of earning money will pass and it will become available to the masses

[summer night]

nai v3 can do a crap load of characters and styles without needing extra networks

the most popular anime-styled SDXL models on civitai don't even come close

[brittle rampart]

this is scary! You can’t use one button for creativity with the inscription “I want to do it beautifully”

[native halo]

because novelai train their models on h100 clusters,comunity models dont have the money to do that kind of training

[zinc flax]

stretching

[brittle rampart]

but the three sleeves are confusing

[zinc flax]

Can't control that one lol

[zinc flax]

AI loves them extra sleeves

[brittle rampart]

AI love all extra!

[brittle rampart]

from old?!

[gloomy scroll]

?

[brittle rampart]

i see it before.. or quite similar

[gloomy scroll]

That's new but I have done something similar

[brittle rampart]

oki-doki

[brittle rampart]

I think I've had enough of torturing demons.

Greenpeace will not approve....

[vital raptor]

I keep trying to summon a demon but I only get multiple hybrids

[brittle rampart]

HOW your magic circle glowing!!?!?!? it`s a magic?

[vital raptor]

(anime style:1.4), a demon girl with (demon wings:1.1) wearing a dress sitting in the center of a (circle of glowing runes:1.4) on the floor, (eye level shot:1.2), (from side:1.1)

[brittle rampart]

winged demon (sitting in (glowing shine magic circle:1.25) kneeling:1.45) magic! it`s really magic!

[vital raptor]

prompts are weird

[brittle rampart]

why?

[vital raptor]

just that sometimes they do exactly what you expect, other times it doesn't

[brittle rampart]

TRUE!

[vital raptor]

your prompt on my model doesn't work well at all, i can't even post that here..

[brittle rampart]

this is only part of the prompt

and here he is all
,masterpiece,best quality,absurdres,detailed background,closeup shot,portrain:1.35,body focus,(looking up:1.45),perfect correct anatomy,solo :1.5,a young preteen child winged demon (sitting in (glowing shine magic circle:1.25) kneeling:1.45) in the (deep mystical fantasy dark dungeon:1.2),(long shiny red hair:1.35),floofy hair,curl hair,wind hair,(crying,angry, screaming:1.5),cry from the heart,tears,(face in agony:1.4),(light fantasy long demon clothes),(chains on the wrists:1.35),(demon huge:1.3 wings:1.45),demon horns,(dramatic pose),dramatic illustration,(medieval theme:1.1),night time,gold rays from sky,obscure light and shadow,soft shadow,chromatic aberration,ambient oclusion,cimenatic light,reflection,refraction,
of course no LoRa

crap! The model from @supple raptor is at its best here!

[glacial bane]

Moree... MOREE

[brittle rampart]

I thought it was a bowl of dumplings.....

[vital raptor]

Be careful of what you try to summon! It might be... cute 🤷‍♂️

[untold glacier]

Boy I can't wait. 1.5 plugins on SDXL, Controlnet tiling, etc.

https://showlab.github.io/X-Adapter/

[glacial bane]

What does it do exactly?

[nova remnant]

cross-platform compatibility for the extension?

think its something to do with being able to use sd1.5 extension with sdxl with that adapter

something ppl been wanting

[glacial bane]

Ahh make sense

[untold glacier]

More info here: https://showlab.github.io/X-Adapter/

[untold glacier]

She didn't paint the clouds correctly. 5/10

[vital raptor]

artistic license

[nova remnant]

she's learning to paint 🙂

[vital raptor]

also her view would be beyond the canvas which we can't see 😛

[untold glacier]

She's literally painting the sun what are you talking about lol

[vital raptor]

but the sun in on the left of her canvas and the right of our view

[nova remnant]

yep kinda is

[brittle rampart]

she is an artist, she sees it that way!

[nova remnant]

Love me some BluePencilXL v2.5

bluepencil current version is quite nice

[untold glacier]

Eh, that's too young for this server. You really need to delete that.

[steady grail]

this is a little too much

[nova remnant]

I haven't tested yet but they dropped a 2.5 "anime style" safetensors a few days ago.

[brittle rampart]

@untold glacier @steady grail why?!

[untold glacier]

Just delete it please. I don't want to see you get banned.

[steady grail]

the costume emphasize too much the forms

[nova remnant]

i only see this on civiai

[untold glacier]

Thanks.

[nova remnant]

always check huggingface first, usually updates way faster https://huggingface.co/bluepen5805/blue_pencil-XL/tree/main

[untold glacier]

Now, regarding the very super important discussion we were having, heh.

[vital raptor]

yes, super important

[nova remnant]

this already looking sweet

[untold glacier]

Oh there's a 2.5 available?

[steady grail]

obviously, she is cheating

[nova remnant]

yeah not sure what the 'anime style' one is I haven't tested that yet

[untold glacier]

[nova remnant]

2.5 is wildly good btw

[vital raptor]

perspective is different, shes looking in the same direction as your top arrow

[nova remnant]

BluePencilXL v2.5 and merry christmas

[vital raptor]

which rotates the clouds and see things we cant

[untold glacier]

But then she wouldn't have the sun in the center of her painting.

[steady grail]

wow, cute colors

[untold glacier]

I'm going to have to try it. Test it. Put it through its paces.

[steady grail]

or maybe when she started the painting, the sun was in that position

and honestly, you can't see the sun with naked eyes

[untold glacier]

So it... moved horizontally... across the sky? Lol

[vital raptor]

it's not centered, and it's not a 90 degree change, she's looking 45 degrees between the way she's facing (since thats canvas) and what we see

[nova remnant]

it does suprisingly well with hands

[nova remnant]

which version is it?

[nova remnant]

I use the base v2.5 not LCM or anime style

[untold glacier]

I'm starting to get flat-earther vibes from what I'm reading lol. I'm just joking with you, of course.

[vital raptor]

depending on location and time of year, it's a thing

[steady grail]

if she is to the south, compared to the sun, it's possible

[nova remnant]

ahhh very nice, cause i was wondering what that version offered, can you post more?

also native 1920x1080 renders can actually come out pretty decent with 2.5

[vital raptor]

not completely horizontal obviously

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/what-day-is-it-huh-what-confused-anime-gif-16694798

[nova remnant]

fyi i render all sdxl images at 512x768 and hires by 2x

[steady grail]

yep

[untold glacier]

I still say this is crazy.

[nova remnant]

that above is a native 1920x1080 no upscaling or fix

[steady grail]

a crazy as the round earth

[nova remnant]

rainbow eyes one of my favorite modifiers

[gentle musk]

Where do you get v2.5? I only see v2 on Civitai.

[nova remnant]

lol why crazy?

[nova remnant]

huggingface is always more updated than civitai https://huggingface.co/bluepen5805/blue_pencil-XL/tree/main

[gentle musk]

Thanks, Civitai is just easier because they are all in 1 place

[vital raptor]

probably because 512x768 is a normal resolution for 1.5 models, most of the point of sdxl is 1024x1024 minimum

otherwise why sacrifice the speed

[nova remnant]

every version of bluepencilxl is in that repo

[untold glacier]

Because SDXL is meant to work at the higher scale. Aesthetic placement and flow of the image will be better at the higher res base gen.

[vital raptor]

but, there are quality reasons too

[nova remnant]

post more so we can get a feel of that version 🙂

everything I'm posting is 2.5 renders rn

[steady grail]

we are risking to get our community flattened by flat earthers if we don't change argument lol

[nova remnant]

ahh you meant that in a surprising way, yeah cause i also was under the impression before that we needed to stick to base canvas 1024

[gentle musk]

I'll see how it handles IPAdapter, the only Anime type model I've had so far that doesn't do weird things with a human face in IPAdapter Face is Counterfeit, all the others make them too real.

[untold glacier]

Just a multiple of those. That's why there are prescribed resolutions for SDXL, as it's much more prone to issues outside of those.

[nova remnant]

so i wonder what the anime version has to give, im gonna download that

[untold glacier]

How many models have you tested, exactly?

[gentle musk]

Can't remember completely, about 5 or 6. I deleted them when they didn't work how I wanted.

[nova remnant]

11 models for 66GB makes me cry

[nova remnant]

right, but you know Emad came out saying on X that everyone could render at 1024x768 with sdxl turbo

[untold glacier]

SDXL turbo is based on 2.1, right?

It's not actually SDXL.

[nova remnant]

no, they have sdxl too

[nova remnant]

no it's based on SDXL

[untold glacier]

Then what am I thinking of?

[nova remnant]

turbo is a SDXL 1.0 model that is optimized to use less denoising steps

well its built on sdxl model

but only renders 512x512

[vital raptor]

SDXL-NotReallyXL-ButFaster

[nova remnant]

i used turbo with 1024x768 too

[vital raptor]

aka, 1.5 😄

[untold glacier]

Perhaps your prompting was the issue. I've found that if we don't ask specifically for anime, even with anime models, it would get that extra step to actual anime style reproduction. Try Hiwamarimix XL-V2. Very good at following instructions and amazingly sharp and cohesive.

[gentle musk]

Nah I did. Just some of the anime models have real stuff merged in with them and they aren't overly pushed towards anime. So when you IPAdapter a real person, it tends to pull out the realism stuff still in the model.

[nova remnant]

the power of native 1920x1080 renders tho

[gentle musk]

It's fine though Counterfeit 1 and 2.5 work really well for it

[untold glacier]

I'll have to try Counterfeit XL. I absolutely detest the 1.x versions of that though, as the methods to put it together are atrociously done, so I don't have high hopes for the SDXL version in recognizing proper prompting.

[nova remnant]

how about some (photorealistic) ?

[gentle musk]

Not sure how it is with prompting, I tend to use IPAdapters mostly now

[nova remnant]

all 14k+ local gens I've done are anime >.>

[untold glacier]

So you... just don't prompt?

[gentle musk]

I do, but only short prompts for what I want to start with and then IPAdapters to get the styles and stuff.

I think the IPAdapters are cool so I play about with them and I'm crap at prompting

[nova remnant]

can you try a wild fantasy beast out in the jungle and add photorealistic, im curious how well it does

[untold glacier]

I see. Well, SDXL relies more heavily on prompting than 1.x versions ever did, so that could be a part of any problems you face. To be fair, SDXL is much easier to prompt with using natural language, e.g. sentences that describe the scene of what you're wanting.

[nova remnant]

im getting the anime style

let me folder my NSFW from earlier and I'll try it out lol

lol

[untold glacier]

We need a proompter emote.

[nova remnant]

at least the man is organized.

lol very photorealistic

[gentle musk]

So this is what these "Anime" models can do with a human IPAdapter image, they can make it look a bit too real, which looks weird.

It's a little better when you put "Anime" in the prompt

[untold glacier]

What's your negative look like?

[gentle musk]

I'll see what the "Anime" marked BluePencil looks like