🍥｜anime

[wispy canopy]

hard one?

[short coral]

wouldn't say hard, just have to get creative with tags since it's not much of a done-before concept surprisingly

[wispy canopy]

i mean, it took me some serious prompt engineering to even get possible

[short coral]

this is where I'm at rn
very aesthetic, high quality, [dryad], {{upper body}}, {subject focus, facing viewer, standing}, {{nature tree 1girl}}, branch arms, leaves on head, foliage, {{wood skin}}, wood woman, gorgeous, dynamic pose, brown and green skin

[wispy canopy]

[anime:0.1], (anthromorphic:1.6) (tree:2.0), [(lewd:0.2):0.4] dryad

and that's for this one( actual upscale)

[anime:0.1], (anthromorphic:1.6) (tree:2.0), [(lewd:0.2):0.4] dryad

[short coral]

can def get some stereotypical dryad stuff

I want a tree woman tho

[wispy canopy]

was trying to get that working too, but it's FCKN hard for real

[short coral]

puts on ad voice
well with the power of naid v3...

[wispy canopy]

and honestly, this is so much fun too!!! [anime:0.1], creative {absurdism|surrealism|realism|fantasy|symbolism|abstract| } , {2-3$$ BREAK $$ __songmaster__}

[dawn jasper]

This Dryad looks lovely.

[short coral]

here's an interesting one

honestly never expected branch arms to work as well as it has

damnit Eface you've sent me down a rabbit hole

[wispy canopy]

@short coral nr2 tho 😮

[short coral]

oooo close

[wispy canopy]

oh man, it's so close 😮

[short coral]

not what I was going for but

I'll take it

[wispy canopy]

so cute tho

[short coral]

yeah

[wispy canopy]

goddammit, now you got me invested again too 😮

I WILL HAVE MY TREE WAIFU!

[short coral]

OOOO vine veins

I gotta try making that work

[wispy canopy]

fun, pushing a model to it's limits 😄

much more fun than propmting stuff it'll handle for sure

[short coral]

I was looking at her stomach and noticed the lil branch veins

[stable crane]

cute

[wispy canopy]

@short coral you probably have a bit more power available than i do, probably

[short coral]

not to toot our own horn ofc, but that's something I've always liked about really flexible general models

which is why it makes me sad to see how much things have gone towards things that are less controllable

[wispy canopy]

things in v3 you'd like to see different?

[short coral]

nah v3 is super controllable

just as controllable as our other image models

[wispy canopy]

i mean, given the tags i see you throw in, it looks like it's handling those pretty well

[short coral]

when we were first playing with SDXL you'd enter a prompt and SDXL would sorta do what it wanted half the time

now it still does but in a way that enhances the prompt you send rather than trying to outdo it

LOL

I took out the girl too much

[wispy canopy]

in my book, this is actually really good

it's a perfect anthromorphic tree

[short coral]

I'm playing around with not actually prompting for a girl and just bringing it out with other human-related features

[wispy canopy]

that's the trick with the latent space -> you can't reference girl

or antyhing

it'll just warp the image to "generic waifu"

[short coral]

also put human in neg prompt

[wispy canopy]

🤔 when usingyour prompts xD

i suppose it's a generic/realistic model after all

[short coral]

lmao, at least it got the branch arms

I love finding irregular tags that just "work"

ahh, I added looking at viewer and it brought back the face

[wispy canopy]

yup, can't have that

[wispy canopy]

looking at viewer = WAY overtuned at females imho

[wispy canopy]

thumbs up?

[short coral]

not entirely sure, model was gettin a lil quirky w/ it I think since I didn't say a specific pose

aww

[wispy canopy]

sorry for the low quality -> using the lcm lora so i have some speed in my generations

[stable crane]

that's cool

[wispy canopy]

and i really refuse to use a controlnet for this prompt 😄

not waifu 😦

[short coral]

poor guy is stuck to that tree

[wispy canopy]

the men are actually pretty decent

[short coral]

oo

[wispy canopy]

dryad captured by the jungle.

that's... a pose 😄

[short coral]

completely wholesome

surely nothing unholy will happen to her

[wispy canopy]

oh man 😮

[wispy canopy]

got some gen that i cant post here, but it's really cool 😮

(nipples visible)

[short coral]

I think I'm reaching a pretty good spot with this prompt

[wispy canopy]

i'll just post the ones that ican show

[stable crane]

my tree girl not turning out as cool

[stable crane]

the one on the right is awesome

I think I have to use SDXL for such a thing

[wispy canopy]

put "woman, female" in neg prompt (finally) and now these dudes starts showing up to wreck shit for real!

[wispy canopy]

ok. this one IS really cool, even if not waifu

[wispy canopy]

my dude be staring at ur waifu tree

[short coral]

oh my

holy shit

woahhhh

okay this prompt is sick when you flip it around to a guy

very aesthetic, [dryad male], man, {cowboy shot}, {subject focus, facing viewer, standing}, {{nature tree}}, branch arms, leaves on head, foliage, {{wood skin}}, wood man, wooden face, brown and [green] skin, vine veins, [[[looking at viewer]]], muscular

[wispy canopy]

girls/female warp it to a VERY specific "wanted" outcome

[short coral]

I can't complain tho

[wispy canopy]

DAMN! GOT IT!

[short coral]

ayyy nice

[wispy canopy]

now, lets see if it still survives without the lora setup

[short coral]

this one was also really cool, forgot to send it

[wispy canopy]

very cute!

v3 destined for great shit!

[short coral]

now onto v4

yeah this prompt's the one

okay now I can move on lmao

[wispy canopy]

very different methods to get there, but we both got there!

awesome stuff @short coral

[short coral]

was fun

now to find a new rabbithole lol

[wispy canopy]

creative {absurdism|surrealism|realism|fantasy|symbolism|abstract| } ,[{2-3$$ BREAK $$ __songmaster__}|{2-3$$ BREAK $$ __songmaster__}]

if v3 handles wildcards...

[short coral]

no but we do have a random prompt generator releasing alongside v3, it's pretty solid

[wispy canopy]

those are great for 'random' weighting

wait, one of those has visible nipple

[short coral]

completely random prompt
1boy, sunburst background, full body, black eyes, very long hair, sidelocks, hip bones, animal on head, short jumpsuit, nervous, praying, {ribbon choker}, bare arms, armband

[wispy canopy]

this one is better

[short coral]

it helps that the model is so good at creating something from anything

[wispy canopy]

yeah, for me, personally, those don't fly. at all xD

throw in RANDOM bullshit, and then see what the model does!

[short coral]

sure gimme an example lol

[wispy canopy]

creative , I got voices in my head again, tread carefully. And I don't medicate, it helps me temporarily I got problems, I got issues, yeah, apparently Trauma that I'm burying, I think I need some therapy I battle depression, I'm back with a message I'm asking the question that, if you hate me, why you acting obsessive? I'm past the point of no return, fuck being passive-aggressive I'll brandish a weapon, teach all you motherfuckers a lesson, yeah

[short coral]

haha, alright

[wispy canopy]

that gets the really cool stuff, imho

[short coral]

this might be sketch tho, model is def best with tags

[untold glacier]

I put in some Anime artist names in v2 and was blown away by the style change--even lesser known names on booru. Very impressive. If v3 keeps that, then it'll be one of the best if not THE go-to.

[wispy canopy]

yeah, my model was mixed to survive that onslaught of bullshit 😄

[short coral]

LMAO, about what I expected

[wispy canopy]

oof, that's rough

yeah, seems your training data was not prepared for that kind of thing

[short coral]

designed around tags

[wispy canopy]

can see if there's a bit more stable one in between them 🙂

does the anime tag help/do antyhing for v3??

[short coral]

ye that was just flat prompt, lemme try fucking with it a bit

ahh, here we go

[wispy canopy]

good. shit. !

[short coral]

added our aesthetic tag to it

[wispy canopy]

damn ❤️

[untold glacier]

I'd watch/read that.

[wispy canopy]

Let it shine! I will never give it up All the spirit is gonna let it fly And you know every tear is gonna dry And the moon will shimmer in the sky Shimmer shimmer for me! Running circles around what is mine I'm getting closer as I move in time Just shine all you want! Just shine all you can!

There's a day when all courage collapses, And our friends turn and leave us behind, Creatures of darkness will triumph, The sun won't rise

But this bitch ain't stacked in my favor We race towards the end of days And while you pave way for your savior I fear the rationality of the faithfully insane

[wispy canopy]

same.

[untold glacier]

The translation though

[wispy canopy]

, Will tomorrow ever come? Will I make it through the night?. Will there ever be a place for the broken in the light? Am I hurting, am I sad? Should I stay or should I go? I've forgotten how to tell, did I ever even know?

[short coral]

lmao

[wispy canopy]

XD

[short coral]

v3 wants to gen text so bad it's crazy

[wispy canopy]

LOL

now it's even more worthy of an anime!

[untold glacier]

The hiragana looks so good.

[short coral]

ie

it wants to soooooo bad

I'd be surprised if our next model version doesn't have good text

[untold glacier]

We're getting closer

[wispy canopy]

seriously, the way the tech evolved just a year is insane

in 2 years, can't even imagine

[short coral]

falling behind

[wispy canopy]

and i kept it to 1 verse...

[wispy canopy]

creative , The best of intentions will not see the road paved. The end of illusions, who could ever be saved What's left behind in the storms that we've braved The troubles we find and the chances we waived BREAK An invisible heart with a body I can clearly see Gotta take oath to what I really want to believe in!

(BREAK is moving on to next set of 75 tokens, dunno how v3 would handle that)

but i just can't get enouhg of these kinds of images

[short coral]

lmao, sure ig

I will say the lack of punctuation probably effects it

[wispy canopy]

creative absurdism, Our scars tell a story of who we are. We are the Warriors Raise your hands to the sky ready to light up the world tonight We live in the fault lines surrounding the Earth We are the Twilight Children of our Age, We are the product, the Final Stage

THE HORROR PROMPT

creative absurdism, I may look peaceful on the surface but underneath there is a torrent I’ll be the cause, you be the purpose 'cause all I feel now is dissent BREAK So we live small lives in the moment. doesn't mean we don't burn bright Accept no blame for our torment But we're the ones who need to fight BREAK Through the smoke and mirrors. we see clear as day and light the way Raise your hands to the sky We gonna light up the world tonight

[short coral]

this one was good

[wispy canopy]

anime, abstract creativity, BREAK (No) More forgiveness (No) I'll bring you death and pestilence I'll bring you down on my own I have returned

would probably be -> abstract creativity, (No) More forgiveness (No) I'll bring you death and pestilence I'll bring you down on my own I have returned

[wispy canopy]

awesome stuff!

[short coral]

notable that coherency is definitely down w/o tags, but that's what happens when you try to mess with prose in a tag-purposed model ig

I'm honestly surprised it's generating anything coherent at all so it's fine by me

[wispy canopy]

^^ fair point

my model also sucks WITH tags

so yeah xD

i mean, it responds mildly at bast at some tags

but stuff like yandere -> no dice

but i'd take this over a yandere any day 😄

[short coral]

yeah fs

I like the more aesthetic stuff

[wispy canopy]

press button, stuff comes out

[untold glacier]

Your model really loves to give women lipstick.

[wispy canopy]

must be those lyrics that mention ketchup

[cyan burrow]

try some lyrics by Nightwish

I bet you'll get nice gens

[untold glacier]

Nah, in my own prompts. Even with neg prompting "makeup. lipstick."

[wispy canopy]

nr3: [anime:0.1], creative , Now here we stand with their bloodKETCHUP on our hands We fought so hard, now can we understand? I'll break the seal of this curse if I possibly can For freedom of every man BREAK Can you hear the silence? Can you see the dark? Can you fix the broken? Can you feel, can you feel my heart?

[wispy canopy]

just casually clipping her thumb through the camera

not a wrong hand, just clipping through

[short coral]

I think one of my favorite parts of v3 is being able to get that weird stereotypical anime lora look with just a tag

[untold glacier]

Nah, it's a reflective part that's just mirroring her pinkie right in front.

[unborn storm]

i would be afraid. my first thought went to the cursed song.

Rip off this lace
That keeps me imprisoned
But beware of the enchantment
For my eroticism is your oblivion

Old love lies deep you said
Deeper shall be the wound between your legs

[cyan burrow]

Within Temptation:
"Endless War"

You're fighting an endless war
Hunting a miracle
And when you're reaching for the stars
They just cut you down

Looking through the glass
Cannot recognize the ghost that you are seeing
Every step you take on the burning sand
Slowly sinking deeper
All the memories remain all the pain from your broken home
And the walls 'round your heart grew so strong
You can't let go

You keep crawling on
Don't wanna let it go
So you keep holding on
To feel whole

'Cause you're fighting an endless war
Hunting a miracle
And when you reach out for stars
They just cut you down
'Cause you're fighting an endless war
Hunting a miracle
Is it worth dying for?
Or are you blinded by, blinded by it all?

Here they come again
Hear them whispering when your heart is bleeding
Like a symphony playing on repeat
Unravelling your feelings
All the memories remain all the strain, you feel broken up
And the weight that you feel pulls you down
You can't let go

You keep crawling on
Don't wanna let it go
You keep holding on
To feel whole

'Cause you're fighting an endless war
Hunting a miracle
And when you reach out for stars
They just cut you down
'Cause you're fighting an endless war
Hunting a miracle
Is it worth dying for
Or are you blinded by, blinded by it all?

It's an endless war
But then they cut you down
They cut you down once more
Don't let them cut you down
Cut you down once more

[wispy canopy]

this one is already in

[wispy canopy]

THE cursed song is meganeko - milkshake

[cyan burrow]

the second one is nice

[wispy canopy]

eye see what you did there!

[cyan burrow]

end of the world tsunamis

nom nom

cosmo-tan

[wispy canopy]

aight, imma go to bed, cya later ❤️

[wispy canopy]

lobsterpunk?

[stable crane]

lobster western

[wispy canopy]

spicey lobster!

cya tomorrow or smth xD

[native halo]

i think she has crabs

on her hands

🦀

[stable crane]

it's hard to get a good consistent claw

[cyan burrow]

they lobsters

Jordan Peterson was right

we lobsters

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-shapiro-meme-correction-gif-24183235

[untold glacier]

G'night!

[stable crane]

I'm starting to really dig sdxl

[untold glacier]

That hand tho.

[untold glacier]

Yeah, it's pretty great. I went and downloaded some choice anime models to stack up alongside Eface's BPN, and am running comparisons with (relatively) simple prompts. So far, I'm very surprised at the level of non-standard SDXL I'm getting out of them. Some are very anime--like 1.x or better.

[stable crane]

oh?

I tried nekoray but it seemed worse

[untold glacier]

The main problem I'm running into is cohesion issues. Not much stacks up to BPN.

Of course, I'm testing everything with upres. And face/person detailer

[stable crane]

she's coming with your medicine

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/booba-popping-eyes-eyes-popping-out-pepe-eyes-booba-pepe-gif-23805447

[cyan burrow]

I think that I'm gonna order another 32 or 64gb ram when I buy my 2tb nvme m2 ssd

[nova remnant]

@native halo

[native halo]

now open her mouth 👄

[cyan burrow]

@untold glacier nah no money rain, will be like 250 dollars total. I've saved for awhile so even with my poverty life I can afford it 😛

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/bath-money-rich-shiny-gold-gif-15669807

[summer shuttle]

tatsumaki

[short coral]

funko pop'd

[nova remnant]

camera gun

shooting photos

[primal wharf]

Hides RPG inside camera

[nova remnant]

i see a lot of video articles about using LCM with SDXL on comfyui, but anyone have used LCM with SD 1.5 on A1111?

[nova remnant]

how do you like the idea of making these sort of images with spectacular scenic view for calendars as well?

[cyan burrow]

how much you paying? 😛

[nova remnant]

why me?

im just sharing ideas 🙂

but think about it

those images are great

[cyan burrow]

thanks. I wouldn't make it for free though, if I can make money then the little capitalist Chibi with a fat belly doubling as a wallet, will take this opportunity

[nova remnant]

yes sure

you can sell them for like $10 each or more

[nova remnant]

nubby....

i like your previous kakigori version better

yess

not over, i like v2 better

more perky than the current one

yeah i still have it

[cyan burrow]

but where would I sell em? Who makes calendars for people?

[nova remnant]

locals and online both maybe

perky = lively

try etsy for online

you could also hit up local shops for this idea

you know like thrift stores

[cyan burrow]

they wouldn't know what to do with the idea, or care

[nova remnant]

i mean for sales

they just sell them for you

[cyan burrow]

that's not how thrift does it here

they take donated stuff and sell it

[nova remnant]

basically its all your idea from creating arts to printing at press

and you give the shops a cut for sales / each

i like this idea... i might come up with a plan to sell

[cyan burrow]

a thrift store wouldnt really stock this sort of thing

maybe there's some like you know those who make t-shirts

I dunno, but the problem is that legally, I don't own AI generated images

[nova remnant]

hmmm

good point

but there are also some of the mods that allow you to publish commercially

and printing tshirt is also another good idea

this economy is such a pos you'd have to go around a long way to get things done

[cyan burrow]

its not about the mods

it's about AI itself

[nova remnant]

what do you mean?

[cyan burrow]

the EU laws say that telling an AI what to make, doesn't give you the right to it as your property as you didn't draw it or anything

you just told something instead of someone to draw it

this is the law, I don't agree with it

but this is it

[nova remnant]

so what's wrong with writing your ideas into prompts to create something unique with Ai as a tool?

[cyan burrow]

dude I'm not the one you have to convince

[nova remnant]

lol ... but you get what im saying

[cyan burrow]

yes

if you however pose things in 3d, maybe do some scribbles or weak sketches

[nova remnant]

for example that scenic view up there, i dont think there is any issues with printing in on a calendar or tshirt and sell them

[cyan burrow]

if you create your own model, if you photoshop it after

etc

then you will own most of it

[nova remnant]

right

im not suggesting printing marvel characters

[cyan burrow]

since it couldn't have been done without your sketch and pose

no but that's a different kind of issue with copyright

[nova remnant]

yeah

but as for regular images that you only make up it shouldn't be a problem

[cyan burrow]

in order to obtain copyright from AI generated, you need to have become an integral part of the creation

no its not but anyone can use them after they see them

since I dont own them unless I do what I said

anyone can just reprint it

[nova remnant]

hmmmm that makes me think of NFTs

[cyan burrow]

the laws are being contested and stuff and might change

its a new market

but if I sketch out some trees, a cliff or whatnot, maybe pose 3d models. If I create a lora out of photographs I've taken or licensed

[nova remnant]

you know how NFT would give you the rights over a creation

[cyan burrow]

then I have multiple layers of copyright

NFTs is bullshit and a scam

[nova remnant]

why do you say that? when it can give you rights on what you've uniquely produced?

[cyan burrow]

NFTs give you the rights over a redirect address to a host. If the host changes, you have no more image

just an empty address

[nova remnant]

i mean the NFT market might be getting scammed but the concept of it is different

[cyan burrow]

and it has no value

[nova remnant]

well...

[cyan burrow]

its digital, you can just copy it forever

ownership is beyond abstract

[nova remnant]

im kinda new to all these new techy stuff.. but we are heading for web3 and blockchain soon enough

[cyan burrow]

just because there's good tech behind all the bullshit, doesn't mean the bullshit is good

[nova remnant]

i think we are talking about two different things, the concept and the market

[native halo]

redditors when they think their american copyright law applies to the whole world

[cyan burrow]

no the concept of an nft is also bullshit

[nova remnant]

the market i mean how its scammed at present

do you think blockchain is also bs?

[cyan burrow]

in what context?

[nova remnant]

nft can't work w/o blockchain

[cyan burrow]

yes, you buy the blockchain but there's no image directly attached to it

there's a redirect

but once that image disappears from that host

[nova remnant]

block chain allow you to reserve a unique token for your items right?

[cyan burrow]

you own the token address, or chain or whatever

the image that's on it can change or disappear

[nova remnant]

its linked to you with your rights alone

[native halo]

blockchain itself is not hosted in a single host thats why its called a block chain aka theres multiple hosts for something to dissapear the whole chain would have to dissapear like peer2peer

[nova remnant]

and there is no disappearnce from block chain

[cyan burrow]

the images aren't hosted on the chain

not usually anyway

and we all know chains can break rather quickly also

[nova remnant]

hold on .. lol we are getting into the whole component of it all

[cyan burrow]

as an item of value, NFTs hold none

[native halo]

yea like when the us government broke the monero chain

[nova remnant]

blockchain nft web3

[native halo]

oh wait they didnt

[cyan burrow]

that's not what I meant

[nova remnant]

block chain isn't fully implemented yet, far from it, and those who are using it are at an early stage

[cyan burrow]

if a chain is abandoned because it goes flat in value, the potential hosts of anything are slim

if you're looking for that hosting

[nova remnant]

im under the impression when you put something up on web3 that stays forever and web3 is integral to blockchain

[cyan burrow]

I also say that NFTs have no value and I stick by it. The value is too abstract, the market becomes so niche that it can't maintain

[native halo]

yea the only way to make money with nft's is either be famous and release some expensive bs or be rich buy some famous guy nft and flip it while praying ppl buy it and u dont lose money

[cyan burrow]

yes, in other words you gotta screw people over

thats the only way NFTs can hold value

before they no longer do

case in point how they've all nose dived from 100k too 1 dollar

[native halo]

when they were new u could sell em because everybody was buying them but now hype is gone

[nova remnant]

why dont you think of NFT as unique signature to an item of yours? can we keep market value aside?

[native halo]

maybe in the future it will be like that

[cyan burrow]

It's not an item though

[nova remnant]

that background imatge up on top?

it is an item

you created it but you are not reserving rights to it

[nova remnant]

thats an item too

[cyan burrow]

My bed and tv are items

my mouse is an item

[nova remnant]

if eface wrote that prompt to create it he can think of reserving rights as well

digital products are an item too

[cyan burrow]

if they do something

an image doesn't do anything for you

[native halo]

gun skins in games also dont do anything for u yet they are regulated and sold as real items

[supple raptor]

This isn't even kakigori. It's a merge that someone else made with Kakigori. Each version of Kakigori evolves with my current tastes at the time that I make them, so they will look different. I leave previous versions up so that people can use whichever one they like best. I'd get bored trying to make the same style on each new version.

[cyan burrow]

you can assign emotional monetary value, but that's also an abstract

[nova remnant]

image can hold values by representing ideas, concepts of values

[nova remnant]

i saved v2 in my portable drive... just in case

[cyan burrow]

no...not like that. Not so that a single address holds more value of ideas, concepts etc than another address of it that nobody paid for

[cyan burrow]

youll never convince me a digital image like that holds monetary value

[supple raptor]

It's not going anywhere. As long as either HF or CivitAI are still running you'll be able to find it again if you ever need to.

[nova remnant]

cryonicus we are litereally discussing physical world and meta physical world values, they are about to merge

[cyan burrow]

if you say so

[nova remnant]

this goes beyond into spirituality and mind

[untold glacier]

You're talking like we're nearly at singularity, lol.

[cyan burrow]

lol

[nova remnant]

kind of we are .. we are headed there

[cyan burrow]

we're millions of years from singularity

we're not even tier 1 civilization

[untold glacier]

Headed there and close-to are completely different things. It's a long way off.

[nova remnant]

some phiolophers are claiming we can achieve siguarlity by 2030 or near

[native halo]

yes after ww3

[nova remnant]

hope not .. no ww3

[cyan burrow]

ww3 is inevitable

since all war is inevitable

[nova remnant]

ww3 will set us back into old ages

[cyan burrow]

nothing says ww3 has to be nuclear

it will likely be fought way differently though, cyber attacks. drones, robots

[native halo]

depending who wins we either become an ai technology dictadorship or a religious dictadorship

[nova remnant]

good grief

[cyan burrow]

or if all the revcoms and marxists have their way

we'll live in Utopias

[native halo]

idk just gimme my sexy robots

[cyan burrow]

we'll all be starving together

[nova remnant]

people are already starving kinda lol

[native halo]

its their own fault for not becoming warlords 😔

[untold glacier]

By the way, here's a preview of the big put-together I'll be posting tomorrow. Did an analysis and comparison on all SDXL models (only 9 made the cut) that can put together an actual, traditional anime style without western influences. Some neat finds.

[cyan burrow]

cryptocoins are also basically like a light form of gambling unless it's locked in value. Since people don't hold them to do transactions etc, they hold them to sell them

if you wanted to only do transactions, then having a fixed value is beneficial

[wispy canopy]

i should start mixing again to make a brightprotoanime 😮

[untold glacier]

Your BPN model made the cut as well, with a caveat. I'd love to see a pure anime model mixed by you though. That'd be awesome.

[short coral]

@wispy canopy earlier today I got into a rabbithole of the whole elemental spectrum alongside the tree people
I'm giving you the blame

[wispy canopy]

everyone should have access to a button that generates one of these once it happens 😄

[untold glacier]

Detail

[native halo]

now that everything is calm u can hold my balloons

[cyan burrow]

anyway...maybe I should sell calendars, dinner plates, glasses, backpacks, clothes etc with nice designs. Not all AI designs

[untold glacier]

Aight. I'm heading off for the night. Enjoy your convos and try not to party at the end of the world too hard now. Goodnight peeps.

[nova remnant]

i have a technical question ... should i even consider using LCM with sd 1.5 on a1111?

[cyan burrow]

but I dunno where or how but still, whereever it's cheapest for above average quality and I have the biggest profit margin

[wispy canopy]

the lora is an sdxl lora, dunno if there's an lcm lora for 1.5

[nova remnant]

oooh, that explains it then

and thanks, cause i was searching for guides to get it working with sd 1.5

[wispy canopy]

anime, sexy robot

[nova remnant]

her legs are too sexy nubby

[native halo]

we need more armpits here

[supple raptor]

that's why she covered them up

[nova remnant]

she can't cover it up .. its visible

[nova remnant]

all the right bends

[nova remnant]

lol... dont let censoring ruin natural expressions

[wispy canopy]

@native halo these the robots you're looking for?

[native halo]

yes i wanna be crushed by skynet 😍

[nova remnant]

im pretty sure the way some of the AI chatbot interacts with people, if they were put into synthetic bodies people will fall in love with them

[supple raptor]

I'll be surprised if there aren't aren't reported cases of that even if they aren't ever put into a synthetic body.

[native halo]

only if they look like the girls from chilloutmix

[nova remnant]

well there are some reports on people falling for dolls

i think i read somewhere some people actually married life size dolls

and given how Ai is progressing and are capable of interacting on emotional level that will add more depth

wow .. the updated ab blocker that im using, i see youtube trying tp show ads while video is streaming, and the adblock just blocks it and i also dont see google not blocking with timed message to disable ad blocker anymore

[cyan burrow]

I think you may be overestimating how difficult it is for robotics to perform the tiniest of motor skills and do it as naturally as a human being

[nova remnant]

maybe at current stage

[cyan burrow]

google had to stop doing that cause they were breaking EU law

[nova remnant]

what EU law was that, sounds sweet btw

[cyan burrow]

forget exactly, but it has to do with privacy and freedom to repair and modify etc

[nova remnant]

i like it that made google stop the annoying block message

[cyan burrow]

I also have a sponsorship skip now, lol

there's an addon for that

[nova remnant]

the ad blockers im using is pretty good altho its free

[cyan burrow]

I never use sponsors and they get nothing from me watching it

[nova remnant]

same

[cyan burrow]

so I use an addon that skips em on youtube since they have to be marked as "ad"

[supple raptor]

They haven't made a ruling or taken any action to stop doing it. It may be illegal under EU law.

[nova remnant]

i guess they understood they could get sued

[cyan burrow]

well I don't receive one, haven't for days

or over a week

or two

it was for a short while then it stopped

[nova remnant]

i notice the goodl changes the past few days

it literally had timed block message .. you'd have to wait it out before you could resume playing

[cyan burrow]

https://sponsor.ajay.app/ this is another one I use

[nova remnant]

this is what im using works universally for all the ads https://getadblock.com/en/

[cyan burrow]

It doesn't work for sponsors that are integrated into the video

not ads that run, but actually in the mediafile sponsor

[nova remnant]

i see some sponsored ads try to show up and they get blocked insntantly

[cyan burrow]

those that are built into the video, hosted by the video creator?

like "check out our sponsor SKILLSHARE!" or "It's RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!"

[nova remnant]

i think those are what google tries to show in the middle of a video playing, not creator embedded

[cyan burrow]

I mean creator embedded

in the videofile

[nova remnant]

no they are not

[cyan burrow]

....

the ones I'm talking about are

and that's what sponsorblocker skips

[nova remnant]

although i dont usually play any videos where the author puts in a bunch of ads

[cyan burrow]

they dont put in a bunch of ads

they have a sponsor for the video

that pays them

don't tell me you've never seen a creator with a sponsor?

[nova remnant]

i see but i dont bump into them with the ad blocker im using

[cyan burrow]

I ran adblock and it never skipped them for me

[nova remnant]

odd

[cyan burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_HpSq95bw at 4:48

does it skip that?

https://youtu.be/8q_HpSq95bw?t=1

try from that

or does it show rocket money sponsor?

[nova remnant]

it starts off with star trek

dont think thats an ad?

[cyan burrow]

if you started watching it say 4:40, it skips the sponsor=

[supple raptor]

in 2023 people are still using adblockers that aren't ublock origin?

[nova remnant]

i clicked your link

i didnt get any money ads

[cyan burrow]

it's not an ad

not in the traditional sense

it's not google adsense

so adblock skipped it in its entirety? regular adblock?

[nova remnant]

starts off here

[cyan burrow]

thats the beginning

I made the second link for a reason

though maybe it doesnt wor

https://youtu.be/8q_HpSq95bw?t=282 now it should

[supple raptor]

cryonicus is talking about skipping the actual sponsors sections within videos, like vanced/revanced can do.

[nova remnant]

that was from clicking the seond link btw

[cyan burrow]

click that and wait 10 seconds or so

sponsor should come on

the new link that is

Rocket Money sponsor should come on

[cyan burrow]

yep

[nova remnant]

how would ad block understand an ad when its embeded into the video

i see a guy talking about money ad

but thats not external

[cyan burrow]

for the love of god....thats why I linked to that before

the sponsorskip

[nova remnant]

thats embeded

not exteranl

[cyan burrow]

.......................

I give up, if you don't want something that works on it

that's on you

[supple raptor]

pretty sure they used crowdsourced timestamps basically

[cyan burrow]

no they use youtube timestamps

any sponsor or ad has to be marked

in the video

sponsorskip looks for that

and skips

[nova remnant]

i think those timestamps are yellow ones?

[cyan burrow]

best way to find out if it works is to see for yourself

https://sponsor.ajay.app/

[nova remnant]

but this one has

ahh ok

[cyan burrow]

try it? ^^

well if youre using a supported broswer

chromium, firefox, safari, edge,

[nova remnant]

sweet .. it skipped also see how it marked it with green bar

[cyan burrow]

yep

like I said

[nova remnant]

thanks lol.. nice one

[wispy canopy]

this is now a thing

[cyan burrow]

np

[cyan burrow]

that's a lot of hair...must have gained a hell of a power up

[wispy canopy]

undeniably

[merry tendon]

better space images than my space witches lol

[nova remnant]

just trying out all the miku in booru tag lol

[wispy canopy]

@

[nova remnant]

looks very cute, is that new model of yours?

[supple raptor]

it's a merge that someone else made with Kakigori

[nova remnant]

interesting, doesnt look anything like kakigori tho

[supple raptor]

https://civitai.com/models/187231/neetmix

[nova remnant]

characters are very different

[nova remnant]

thanks

this image you posted now and the profile images on the civitai links are also very different

[supple raptor]

Yeah, the kakigori parts are pretty unrecognizable. I wish they had included the names of the other models they used for it, there are probably some other interesting ones in there.

[nova remnant]

oh i see what they did, they merged your v3

[supple raptor]

yeah, they used kakigori_v3, but I have no idea what else they used.

[nova remnant]

btw @cyan burrow the concept of copyright content is outrageous, its linked to the scarcity driven monetary economy, considering we achieve singularity as big thinkiers in science coumminty are striving for, ideas have to be sharable as common heritage to everyone who exist

[cyan burrow]

I'm a capitalist, as I said

[nova remnant]

capitalism is unsustainable

[cyan burrow]

it's been doing fine for 10,000 years or so

[nova remnant]

its been in pratice that long and heading for a big collapse

it can't keep up with technological revolutions and even besides that its wrecking havoc ecologically

[cyan burrow]

well good luck coming up with a working alternative

[nova remnant]

cryo that's a challenge for everyone

we have to come up with a sustainable solution

[cyan burrow]

Who's we? I don't have the energy for this, especially when I don't agree with you. There's always something wrecking havoc somewhere every generation and it's always the biggest thing ever and nobody has ever seen or experienced anything worse

[native halo]

id say canibalize redditors like him

[cyan burrow]

I'm too old and too jaded and too fatigued from the past 3 years to care

[nova remnant]

we as the whole society

[native halo]

u right ppl who will die soon dont matter anyways

they will get replaced anyways

[nova remnant]

yeah i know what you mean steven.. some people may not live up that long for changes to take place

[cyan burrow]

yeah that's not gonna happen @nova remnant , there's too many differing cultures with different values and ways of life, tradition, religion and so on. You'll never find a universal system that speaks as neutral as capitalism

[native halo]

its ok dont worry we will always remember you as a pillar who helped to forge humanity way upwards so i salute u for that

🫡

[cyan burrow]

aye aye

[nova remnant]

exactly. thats the challenge we all face

[cyan burrow]

as we move towards communism™ (the real one this time, not the other two dozen attempts)

we don't face it cause I don't agree with you

[native halo]

even if we do or not its not like u will see it

[nova remnant]

hey smol sus where have you been?

[lyric zealot]

been playing with stuff not related to AI

[nova remnant]

ohh..didnt seen you in a while, wondering if you got too busy with real life errand

[native halo]

now this is the type of robot id pay for 🤠

[nova remnant]

we have human beings for that kind of attraction 🙂 we often overlook that cause of negative social conditions

[cyan burrow]

did you just start psychology 101 in high school or college @nova remnant ?

[nova remnant]

no

but i studied the social trends and read about social activists

[cyan burrow]

right

[native halo]

i graduated at trump university

[nova remnant]

there is always some conflict going on somewhere that doeesnt mean tho we have to accept that

[cyan burrow]

I'd say 95% of all activism is about self-indulgence and peer acceptance

[nova remnant]

a lot of the problems derive from economic model we have

and there is little to say about that unless there is technological abundance to automate most of human tasks

[cyan burrow]

or we agree internationally to slavery

[nova remnant]

there is more to that, human task are prone to error that can be overcome through mechanical precision

[native halo]

dont pop the balloons

[steady grail]

talking about socialproblems in this channel? interesting lol

[nova remnant]

some thoughts, it started out with copyright policies

[steady grail]

yeah, i pretty much feel the same.
but try to understand, most people live like zombies, and let things be even when they are about to die, without opposing a real resistance

[steady grail]

just a minority can't live accepting to let their soul rot, living without really improving what they don't like

[steady grail]

most of the people just wake up one day, realizing they have wasted their life and than returning dormient, by the shock

[nova remnant]

well asking people for social change isn't gonna work i dont go there, just a waste of energy, but i see good changes developing by itself technoogically that will reshape society

[steady grail]

nah, means change nothing.
people will just use tech to consolidate their life style

only the will cange really things

[nova remnant]

lets put it this way, society by majoirty is incapble of making changes, the changes will come throught technology and Ai is a step towards that

how cute is this ....

[steady grail]

charming

reminds me of my childhood

[native halo]

i just want my sexy robots

[steady grail]

playing in the snow with my family

[cyan burrow]

You can't assume people are just living with what they don't like. Just because you don't like it. I guess they're living with what you don't like ^^

[steady grail]

i'm talking about what i saw during my life.

i saw many times the light in the eyes of the people perish, dragging themselves in a meaningless life

many were people dear to me.

[nova remnant]

both of you have legitimate perspective

its easy to differ becaue everyone has their own takes in life, and none of them should be invalidated

[steady grail]

yeah, the point is that everyone have his values and priority

[steady grail]

look the gens, everyone have his preferences

[nova remnant]

the problems we face or willing to admit are more systemic than humanistic

[steady grail]

people can truly put their heart in just one thing.
more often than ever, such things are meaningless vices like smoking, or drinking

the only systemic thing in this, is that the actual society, induces people in such vices, to squize them dry

[nova remnant]

kind of

i see that as flawed economic model that creates artificial scarcity and pushes eco destructive consumerism

[steady grail]

torqx, is even worse than this, but i don't think this is the right place to talk about it

[nova remnant]

im not talking about it just replying to you

[steady grail]

so, let's close this question her, or talk it in pm

[nova remnant]

yeah lets do that... not a very happy topic for discussion anyway besides one can't make the change by himself

[steady grail]

yep

[haughty nimbus]

background looks good!

[steady grail]

guys, did you know about lcm lora?

[cyan burrow]

What's LCM?

[steady grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrxd95Mxz24

[nova remnant]

Latent Consistency Models (LCMs) have achieved impressive performance in accelerating text-to-image generative tasks, producing high-quality images with minimal inference steps. LCMs are distilled from pre-trained latent diffusion models (LDMs), requiring only ~32 A100 GPU training hours.

[nova remnant]

does that work with SD 1.5? 👀

[steady grail]

they say so

looking to load it on comfy

[nova remnant]

watching it now

i hope this works with a1111 too

[nova remnant]

it says it does work on a1111 and sd 1.5, so i just download the lcm lora, place it in lora folder and put that in positive prompt and render as usual?

[steady grail]

nah

LCM-LoRA is supported in 🤗 Hugging Face Diffusers library from version v0.23.0 onwards. To run the model, first install the latest version of the Diffusers library as well as peft, accelerate and transformers. audio dataset from the Hugging Face Hub:

The adapter can be loaded with SDv1-5 or deviratives. Here we use Lykon/dreamshaper-7. Next, the scheduler needs to be changed to LCMScheduler and we can reduce the number of inference steps to just 2 to 8 steps. Please make sure to either disable guidance_scale or use values between 1.0 and 2.0.

[nova remnant]

can you share that link please?

[steady grail]

i'm actually looking the way to set the scheduler

https://huggingface.co/latent-consistency/lcm-lora-sdv1-5

[nova remnant]

thanks

going to read up and follow to instruction to install it

it should work with all the models too, right?

just got this updated

pip install --upgrade pip
pip install --upgrade diffusers transformers accelerate peft

[steady grail]

transformers accelerate are not for win

[nova remnant]

idk i got these ...
Successfully installed accelerate-0.24.1 diffusers-0.23.0 huggingface-hub-0.17.3 peft-0.6.1 psutil-5.9.6 safetensors-0.4.0 tokenizers-0.14.1 transformers-4.35.0

[steady grail]

they made transformers accelerate compatible for win?

that's new

let me see

[nova remnant]

got the lora downloaded too, time to test

this is the file i got pytorch_lora_weights.safetensors

when using hires fix .. do i set its value to 0 ?

cause im gonna use samplign steps to 10 now with that lora

:/

dont think that lora is working right

[nova remnant]

@wispy canopy

It's too hot to play

[wispy canopy]

is it?

[nova remnant]

I woke up

And cold showered

First thing I did today

[wispy canopy]

that hot atm?

[nova remnant]

It's bad

Just a constant 30+ c

Even at midnight

And my house doesn't have the best time cooling off the rooms

Sum old stuff

[wispy canopy]

😢

[nova remnant]

@wispy canopy got to A5 on my trickster Ed/c

[wispy canopy]

poor you @nova remnant ❤️

trickster ed/c 😮 that's a blast from the past 😮

[cyan burrow]

so weird, when I try to generate SDXL in auto1111, it takes forever. In comfyui, almost instantly 😮

with my 3070 ti 8gb

[nova remnant]

using upscaling and LoRAs?

[cyan burrow]

no

LCM also can't be detected and reads as incompatible

[nova remnant]

sounds strange then, cause i use 3060 rtx and it takes me about 40s to render with just the basic and adetailer

btw i only have --xformers in webui bat file

no vram tags

[cyan burrow]

me too

I'm so sick of SDXL....either way though, when 4070 Super comes out, if they stay true to rumors and it costs the same as a 4070 atm....I will probably upgrade to that 😛

then I can use some more 3d software too, get great performance in games etc

[nova remnant]

im staying away from sdxl cause of its poor anime quality

and yes lack of community inputs

[cyan burrow]

I like that it understands prompts better

[nova remnant]

thats the only reason i kept coming back to it

but i also realized its pretty cool to just use booru tags on sd 1.5

[cyan burrow]

I just work on improving my current 1.5 model, it kind of understands natural language

[nova remnant]

the reason i like booru tags cause it can give you wide room of putting in ideas and have creative outputs, and you could also incorporate controlnet for more precise results

[steady grail]

yeah, but i feel that tha precision is somehow limitating 😦

[cyan burrow]

using both is better

[steady grail]

well, after all i prefer be surprised by the results lol

maybe the booru prompting is good to make retouches

[nova remnant]

so here is an example... i wrote up a prompt booru tag style but also descriptive fo the elements i want in the output and then i chose to load up a random photo in controlnet and used the depth feature to creete images based on my tags while the photo in controlnet is quite differnt with the background

[steady grail]

i was looking in ipadapter

i suppose, for it, booru is way better

[cyan burrow]

ok I think it kinda generates now, way different from sd 1.5

[steady grail]

they look like the eyes of frodo of lord of the ring

[cyan burrow]

yes

this is the same in 1.5

weird though, I can't see the Lora's I'm supposed to see, probably a setting

[nova remnant]

the stuff they are creating on civitai page with such limiting animatediff, this evolving tech will blow the minds in few short years

[steady grail]

yep

we will get very high detailed assets in a click

with enough time, even making entire high detailed visive simulations, will be possible

like the difference between dos and windows

a totally new way to interact with data

[nova remnant]

yeah, im imagining all the possibilities and also sugar and spice

this may not seem obvious yet due to physics nature of limitations, but Ai have the potential to create utopia

[steady grail]

found something else about lcm

Note that LCMs are a completely different class of models than Stable Diffusion, and the only available checkpoint currently is LCM_Dreamshaper_v7. Due to this, this implementation uses the diffusers library, and not Comfy's own model loading mechanism.

[nova remnant]

i think i also saw some ppl talk about any models that work with lcm

also lcm sampler is not required

[steady grail]

oh

why the informations about lcm are so conflictual?

https://huggingface.co/blog/lcm_lora#lcm-loras-with-other-models

[nova remnant]

its fresh, still under testing by users i guess

[steady grail]

yep

but i'm going crazy, like this XD

[wispy canopy]

Basically you have to tune the steps/model/cfg

But once you get it dialed in, the speed gained VS quality loss makes up for it bigtime

[nova remnant]

can you give an idea about steps and cfg and how do you setup hires fix ?

[wispy canopy]

In comfy or a1111?

[nova remnant]

a1111

[wispy canopy]

I'm using lora strength 0.25, cfg2, dpm2s a karras

[nova remnant]

basically i use 30 steps for samplers, so i could lower that to say 4? and what should be the hires fix ?

[wispy canopy]

when i use the lcm, i can run 8 steps

[nova remnant]

and you skip hires fix?

[wispy canopy]

i can use it, if i want

and then highres as 4 steps for example

this is 8 steps (testing a new merge already lol xD

[nova remnant]

im not getting good results

gonna use 8 sampling steps, cfg 2, hires 4

and ofc with lora:pytorch_lora_weights:1

[wispy canopy]

wait

which lora would that be?

cartoon, drawn by __artists/unfiled/comicbooks__, epic action scene, <lora:LCM_LoRA_Weights:0.25> this is all i have

[past junco]

That looks extremely oversaturated

Like, baked memes

[nova remnant]

thats lcm from https://huggingface.co/latent-consistency/lcm-lora-sdv1-5/tree/main

[past junco]

Deep fried memes?

Not sure what they are called

[nova remnant]

yeah that might be it

weight 1 is prolly too highg and over baking it

this is with weight 0.4

[wispy canopy]

use it at 0.25

like i do

the lora is really strong in a1111

[nova remnant]

k trying one now

good gosh

i mean the overall quality could be better.. but this is with 8 sampling steps, 4 hires steps, cfg 2

[wispy canopy]

yeah, that's the thing

[nova remnant]

taking out lora:pytorch_lora_weights:0.25 and see what i get

[wispy canopy]

quality does suffer a bit, but the speed gain is just... you can hardly argue with that

[nova remnant]

all the same settings but no lcm lora

[wispy canopy]

very good for prototyping promps

perhaps lower lora strenght or cfg even more

[nova remnant]

looking at these 2 images i just posted ...

the one with lora looks richer in quality

has more detail

look at the face

[wispy canopy]

a lot more is resolved, so yeah, it does speed up generation

[nova remnant]

lora:pytorch_lora_weights:0.3.. sampling steps 15, hires steps 5, cfg 3, while also using adetailer

is there a technical reason to keep sampling steps down to 8?

guidance_scale is cfg?

Please make sure to either disable guidance_scale or use values between 1.0 and 2.0.

[wispy canopy]

because that's how the speedup happens -> you need less steps

less steps for a 'similar' result

[nova remnant]

cfg 1, steps 8, hires 2

missing a lot of detail tho

oh and used controlnet depth for it as well

w/o controlnet

found this to be a fair balance ...

sampling steps 8
hires steps 4
cfg 2

LoRA weight 0.25

@nova remnant should use this LCM

[nova remnant]

What is that

And why should I

[nova remnant]

a lot faster image gen

good thing i can set custom steps and cfg for adetailer

[nova remnant]

is it bad in any way

shouldn't be bad, altho i had to update a few files but that went ok no bugs

epic ... for so little steps

[nova remnant]

@nova remnant

[nova remnant]

i wonder about this LoRA if this has anything to do with color consistency

no BREAK here
1girl. dark red hair. blue eyes. sitting next to a pool. dipping her feet into the water. wearing a white crop top and blue skirt. bright sun. blue sky. <lora:pytorch_lora_weights:0.25>
yet it maintains the right colors for different area as prompted

consistently w/o missing one render

[nova remnant]

i had to use BREAK before for this prompt portrait of a girl, red hair, yellow eyes, dynamic expression, expressive mood, maroon lipstick, short black dress, bare shoulders

but not now

and this with the model i used before to be using break but not now

[nova remnant]

somewhere something changed .. im guesing it could be the LoRA

i say that praisingly

besides using this LCM LoRA i updated > pip install --upgrade diffusers transformers accelerate peft

not a single BREAK

[stable crane]

that's LCM? looks great

[nova remnant]

yeah

i just changed my default settings for config json file to use lowe steps

i have no clue how color context improved this much

didnt change any extension

portrait of a girl, silver hair, red eyes, dynamic expression, expressive mood, pink lipstick, short black dress, bare shoulders.

[stable crane]

how long does that gen take?

looks really good for LCM

do you upscale it?

[nova remnant]

yeah upscaling by 2x

using hires, adetailer too [00:29<00:00, 2.24s/it]

[stable crane]

for me, LCM quality really suffers (without LCM vs with LCM)

will play with # of steps

[nova remnant]

Safest place outside of earth

[nova remnant]

what steps are you using?

[stable crane]

oh ok here we go

first is 8 steps dpm++2m karras, then highres phase is 12 steps

41s vs 73s

[nova remnant]

you should keep hires to half of sampling steps

[stable crane]

yeah? will try

[nova remnant]

this is my settings for those images i posted

[stable crane]

vae taking a lot of time overall

I don't think 4 highres steps is enough, will try more with fixed seed

[nova remnant]

let me have your prompt so i can run a comparison with my settings

[stable crane]

a statue of a cat made out of coal, cracked, textured, depth of field, camera RAW and neg blurry, lowres, boring

[nova remnant]

why lowres and boring?

i mean lowres?

is high steps not really good on lcm ?

[stable crane]

lowres because I don't want a lowres output?

[nova remnant]

its not that, the idea behind LCM is speed with lower steps

[stable crane]

4, 8, 12 highres steps

[nova remnant]

if you use higher steps you'll over cook

[stable crane]

8 might be sweet spot

4 looks a bit underdone

[nova remnant]

usually rec sampling steps for LCM is 2-8

i use 8

ok im gonna try your prompt but you didnt answer why the lowres

[stable crane]

I did

[nova remnant]

oh

[stable crane]

#🍥｜anime message

[nova remnant]

fi you dont want lowres that goes in negative not positive

[stable crane]

who knows if sdxl even understands lowres

it is in negs

#🍥｜anime message

[nova remnant]

you put that all in one line lol

[stable crane]

separated by code formatting 😛

[nova remnant]

can you give me the positive only?

[stable crane]

a statue of a cat made out of coal, cracked, textured, depth of field, camera RAW

[nova remnant]

uhh lol

let me try another model

[stable crane]

cool

lol

[nova remnant]

not getting the right pic

but thats on model not LCM

[stable crane]

that's a cute one

[stable crane]

the character of the gen is different too

what the model would do at 20 steps vs 8 lcm steps

I asked for quartz

though maybe there's more at play, I think the right is actually closer to real quartz

ah the CFG difference

definitely still a neat technique though

[nova remnant]

make sure to either disable guidance_scale or use values between 1.0 and 2.0.

[stable crane]

idk how to do that in comfy

or is that == CFG

[nova remnant]

yeah cfg

also what weight are you using for your LCM lora?

[stable crane]

0.25

[nova remnant]

ahh yes thats a good number

[stable crane]

I think this will have a niche in realtime img2img where you paint + get a gen on the right

then, you click "upscale" and it refines without LCM

[nova remnant]

i kinda let adetailer run with custom steps

i keep both steps and cfg for adetailer seperate from prompt

[stable crane]

my gens don't have a human face

[nova remnant]

yeah i see that, but im just saying you will need to do that when you render humans

[stable crane]

haven't needed adetailer in sdxl

well, it might have helped a tad

[nova remnant]

adetailer works with SDXL too if you wanna run a few comparisons

[stable crane]

lgtm

thing is I have to run sdxl on comfy and don't know how to adetailer there yet 😄

[nova remnant]

https://github.com/ltdrdata/ComfyUI-Impact-Pack#how-to-use-ddetailer-feature

[stable crane]

thanks

is there a LCM lora for 1.5?

[nova remnant]

👀 what do you think im posting so far

[stable crane]

oh I assumed sdxl

just found one for 1.5

I've been doing SDXL

[nova remnant]

https://huggingface.co/latent-consistency/lcm-lora-sdv1-5

and im using a1111

[stable crane]

lol the 1.5 speed is absurdly fast

[nova remnant]

yeah i like it

[stable crane]

like 7s

most of the time spent is actually in vae encode/decode for me now

[untold glacier]

SDXL Anime Model Comparison V2

• V2 Updated with the biggest and best models, Blue Pencil, Kohaku, and HimawariMix. Also newly tested was OOO and RealisticFreedom. Here's the new half-size comparison grid preview: #🍥｜anime message

I've put together a comparison of all of the most "anime"-like SDXL models currently out on Civitai. The models were curated by finding and choosing those which had the closest to traditional pop-anime styles in their thumbnails.

The comparison is a grid of 9 prompts and settings of various qualities along the Y axis (each prompt is on a separate seed.) The models (along the X axis) number 14, and every image is a standard SDXL resolution with a 2x upres and face/person detailer applied depending on the prompt. All images were genned with the unaestheticXL Sky 3.1 negative embedding.

I recommend viewing the downloadable full file--as that's the only way you'll see jpeg artifacts and other imperfections with some models. Be warned, this is an extremely large file and will likely need to be viewed in an app that can handle it, like Windows Photos: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sI97oyvK5pnn49BtQI-N99e3XpjYOLu-/view?usp=drive_link

If you're tagged, you're part of a list of people who have recently expressed an interest or concern with SDXL anime models before, and I thought you might find this useful: @stable crane @nova remnant @wispy canopy @keen hollow @iron star @merry tendon @nova remnant @nova remnant @near elbow @slate narwhal

Findings here: #🍥｜anime message

My findings:

Anime Model Ranking:

✅ 1. Blue Pencil v1.0 (Next level anime model.)

• Even with the squished face problem, this model pops: great detail, cohesion, and prompt following. Super aesthetically pleasing.
  ✅ 2. Nekoray (Best Flat 2D Anime Model)
• Excellent cohesion / prompt following. Slightly less contrasty than the rest, but sheer cohesion, aesthetic creativity, and prompt following more than make up for it.
  ✅ 3. Kohaku Beta 7 Pro (The flattest and best at following prompts.)
• The hard flat sketch style is great.
  ✅ 4. HiwamariMix (Most non-squished faces. Closest to 1.x.)

5. BrightProtoNuke 1.2 (Best Generic Model. Can be very difficult to get a good anime style, but when you can, it's fantastic.)
6. EndlessCoatingMix (Great flat 2D, but a too haphazard sketch style in every gen.)
7. BreakDomain v05g (Cohesion issues, but creative.)
8. NekoXL Nsfw Mix v1a (See special note at end.)

❌
9. RealisticFreedom SFW Alpha (Good following the prompt, but has trouble sticking with an anime style and cohesion problems.)
10. Endless Bard_Mix Mix (The same as Endless Coating, but with an inability to gen eyes properly and a profound lack of cohesion.)
11. SDVN8-ArtXL Base (Too non-anime stylized and incoherent.)

• Don't use this unless you want to fight against the model to try and make anything anime.

12. AnimagineXL v1 (Very messy. Very incoherent.)
13. OOO (Jpeg artifacts, low cohesion, and super messy.)
14. SDXL

Special note: NekoXL Nsfw Mix v1a has major jpeg artifact issues and can veer away from your prompts hard. With that being said, it is quite creative, has an amazing anime style, and is very aesthetically pleasing (see the examples.) It's likely best used as a base gen model with a different model for the upres to bypass the quality issues if you can get past the prompt veer.

• FYI: Cohesion/Coherance: The ability to generate an image without mangled/missing limbs, not fully-formed objects, etc.

[stable crane]

stylistically, I dig Endless Bard a lot

[nova remnant]

how about blue pencil?

[untold glacier]

Yeah, I love many aspects of what it is, but it has a hardness to it that is difficult to escape, along with eye issues and a lack of cohesion in the end resulting gens some of the time.

[untold glacier]

I looked at and tested the SDXL anime models on Civitai that I felt could accurately and properly represent a true and traditional "anime" style without any western influences. When I looked at Blue Pencil, every face was far too vertically squashed in the example images for my liking. So it was disqualified before the comparison.