🍥｜anime

[native halo]

this is my fav dalle img

[stable crane]

h8

[nova remnant]

the new adetailer update few hours ago must have changed something to make face inpainting much better

[dawn jasper]

That rack is impressive if I do say so, myself.

[stable crane]

oh yeah?

[nova remnant]

its updated quite frequently

Beautiful girl, blonde, long hair, freckles, green eyes, wearing a colorful, vibrant, detailed embroidered dress, outdoors, night

[supple raptor]

I liked it so much that I upgraded it

[nova remnant]

@dull jackal ^

[magic wave]

Trying out KuroGishiki (its the same as Gishiki but it has noise offset )

[stable crane]

ooo

looks great!

[magic wave]

Thanke

Though I'm also using my Sciamano240 LoRA and (realistic:1.3)

[keen hollow]

it's quiet again

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/insane-cat-joongcat-the-voices-gif-24984217

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-gif-26849967

[keen hollow]

evenin'

hey maybe ya'll know

in auto1111, can the x/y/z plot be used to render across different negative prompts?

[nova remnant]

from what I know it can do one negative at a time

I was talking earlier

[keen hollow]

dang...

the list of positive prompts is so handy

[nova remnant]

What you mean ?

[keen hollow]

you can do a list of prompts easily

it'll just iterate through them, using the same negative

I want to do that, but with negative prompts

[nova remnant]

hmmm

[nova remnant]

but isn't that what you want ?

You can tell it to change the negative , if you put the negative you're using inside the prompt s/r

[keen hollow]

prompt s/r would require me to not use commans in the prompt

which is a pain in the butt 😄

[nova remnant]

can you not do dots to separate them like commas

I believe that has the same ish effect

[keen hollow]

not sure

nope, that didn't work 😉

[nova remnant]

@keen hollow

is that working

[keen hollow]

I'd have to change my negatives to use periods instead of commas. Can't use periods as the separator.

[nova remnant]

yeah

that's the annoying part

@keen hollow but what exactly do you want to test ?

prompt matrix can also do that but it will try each variation

[bitter latch]

Morticia and Gomez in love

[keen hollow]

prompt matrix is definitely not the way... haha

did a bit of googling and frankly, it doesn't seem possible

I just wanted to test a few negative prompts to see which one I'm liking most these days

[nova remnant]

the difference between . and , is very minimal from what I know

shouldn't be a problem to use s/r to test

if you have a big list of prompts just tell chatgpt to fix it for you :P

[keen hollow]

the thought of editing all my negatives is... daunting 😄

[keen hollow]

the period vs comma does change it...

oh well

gonna have to go manual

wait

... styles... you can plot styles

this might be it

[bitter latch]

ok for some reason (ironic I know) came out creepy

[keen hollow]

yesssss

pumped to find a new feature

[bitter latch]

... thats what she said?

see's himself out

[keen hollow]

😐

[bitter latch]

https://tenor.com/b05Zz.gif

ok i'm gonna stop

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/kurono-fireforce-anime-mooneyes-gif-26035604

[nova remnant]

the hell is that

[native halo]

the guy that likes to bully 🤠

[strong thunder]

Bro, what did u use to lipsync your anime ?

[bitter latch]

ok .. what kind of pastry is that?

[keen hollow]

wholly cannoli that's a necro... haha... ummm

try this one... https://www.d-id.com/

[strong thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-necron-gif-17816277693703384207

Thank you !

[keen hollow]

yeah, lemme see what you come up with

[supple raptor]

X/Y plot with Prompt S/R. Syntax is:
"negative, prompt, one, here","negative, prompt, two, here","negative, prompt, three, here"

notice, no spaces between the quotation marks and the commas that separate them.

[keen hollow]

wouldn't that be three positive prompts?

I figured out how to do it with styles, so using those. 🙂

[strong thunder]

Sure !

[supple raptor]

Nope, because the negative one would only be found in the negative prompt.

[keen hollow]

oh, duh.. was thinking, nevermind...

forgot about the quotes trick 🙂

[supple raptor]

I didn't know about that one for quite a while. I don't think it was in the documentation in the beginning. Not even sure that it is now, now that I think about it.

[bitter latch]

interesting hands

[nova remnant]

genius

[bitter latch]

better

[primal wharf]

@nova remnant

[bitter latch]

ok fine...

😄

[keen hollow]

ugh i can't get a prompt/model that is resonating tonight at all

[nova remnant]

[keen hollow]

ugh i hate all my anime models right now

[bitter latch]

surprise..cat

[keen hollow]

definitely different.... not sure which is best though. I think I need some new negative prompts...

[primal wharf]

@nova remnant

Toast and selfie

and some filters

[nova remnant]

looks at thighs

neg8 is best

[keen hollow]

oh there's a bug

[nova remnant]

either 0, 5 or 8

[keen hollow]

it doesn't unload the TI between negatives if the next in the series doesn't have one

interesting

i should probably post to the github

then again, 4000 issues are posted and ignored, so, maybe not 😛

[bitter latch]

ah ha more anime

[keen hollow]

reordered to get around the bug

this is more accurate

tough to beat 8, but it's the most different

[supple raptor]

you could try closertodeath's negative works really well on some models. It's basically required on her models. I don't remember where to get the etone negative embed though, I can send it if you need that one. easynegative, (etone:0.8), (worst quality, low quality, normal quality:1.5), (simple background, white background, abstract, abstract background, uneven, double exposure, odd, disconnected:1.5), holding, teeth, tongue, nsfw, midriff, ((multiple girls, 2girls)), ((watermark)), ((no humans))

[keen hollow]

I'm finding the embeds kick it a lot more change overall and are a bit more unpredictable

like easynegative in that one

[bitter latch]

but but double exposure is fun

[keen hollow]

I need a prompt to test this some more. Someone gimme a fave go-to. 🙂

[supple raptor]

you can always remove that one when it's what you actually want. if you aren't going for it then it isn't good.

[supple raptor]

kirisame marisa, blonde hair, yellow eyes, side braid, superb, witch hat, large hat, looking up, eyes closed, relaxed, sitting on a rock beside a stream, (barefoot:1.1), shoes removed, nature, outdoors

tests hands, feet, general anatomy, and character recognition all at the same time.

[bitter latch]

reworks his prompt

[keen hollow]

ill give it a whirl

[bitter latch]

waits

[keen hollow]

rendering...

[bitter latch]

ponders trying multiple layer prompt script

[supple raptor]

should give something like this

[keen hollow]

only doing these at 640x768 for the test...

yep

i'm using monstercoffeebang or whatever

[bitter latch]

looks like she's in pain or constepated

[keen hollow]

not liking my models right now 😛

[keen hollow]

I think 7 took that one

[supple raptor]

based on that one, I would eliminate the last 4. 7 definitely looks the best here.

neg3, might look better with hires fix, so that one might be worth keeping.

[keen hollow]

i'm gonna run another example

just gotta find a decent base 😛

here we go

adding one more neg too

[supple raptor]

this one is another one of my go to test prompts
masterpiece, best quality, BREAK 1girl, long hair light purple hair, curly hair, cute, eyelashes, sitting, white dress, pink ribbon, belt, pink flats, white thighhighs, outdoors, nature, tree, bush, flower, rustic

[keen hollow]

cool ill try that too

[keen hollow]

maybe ill switch over to aniverse or something

[primal wharf]

Once in a blue moon, RNG blesses me with coherent fingers.

[keen hollow]

is that your kaikiroki or whatever it is? 🙂

I have that one, can try that.

[supple raptor]

that one is from the new version of Kakigori which I'm still working on.

[bitter latch]

one of my goto for anime stylish is : fine art, soft colors, black outline style, elegant, very detailed Cel-Shaded With shaded detail's, soft shadows

[supple raptor]

latest addition to the merge was based67 which looks like this on that same prompt and seed.

[keen hollow]

last three are rough again

ok ill try the new prompt with hires

will take a little longer with the hires fix... running now

[bitter latch]

you don't know long tillyou've had to wait an hr over dialup for 1meg file

I know aging myself a little there..sigh

[keen hollow]

been there

[supple raptor]

I had dialup until 2009.

[keen hollow]

had a 14.4 baud modem

played LORD on the local BBSes

[bitter latch]

my earlist modem was.. hmm umm.... 1200 baud? with a phone reciever hookup

on a rotery dial

that was a pain

believe it or not there are, or where, bbs's online

but anyhow

[stable crane]

just think how long it'd take to download a single waifu back then

[keen hollow]

there we go nubby... after hires

a trend i'm seeing is that NO negative is honestly fine a lot of the time...

[bitter latch]

I use Negative prompt: Scribbles, Low quality, Low rated, Mediocre, 3D rendering, Screenshot, Software, UI, watermark, signature, lowres, bad anatomy, bad hands, text, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, cropped, worst quality, normal quality, jpeg artifacts, username, blurry, artist name, one tail, no extra legs kkw-extreme-neg

[keen hollow]

8 decided it needed a teapot 😄

[keen hollow]

looks like it has an embedding

ill throw it in there, but it wont pick up the embedding

[bitter latch]

yeah the negitive

kkw-extreme-neg

got tired of adding and got lazy

[keen hollow]

it's about done

the last 3 are the obvious ones to drop...

one more... then igotta get some sleep

[nova remnant]

Miku in snowy amazon forest, wearing amazonian outfit

[zinc flax]

Uploaded this one to hf
https://huggingface.co/sleepotimer/SweetMoe

[keen hollow]

feels like no negative won this one

ill have to play with it some more

[supple raptor]

Kakigori definitely likes very minimal negative prompting.

most negative embeds also make it worse in my experience.

[primal wharf]

@nova remnant take pictures together with Kotori

[nova remnant]

taking photos my one demise

[primal wharf]

Me too

Not narcissistic and confident enough to take selfies

[nova remnant]

Only thing I have a picture of myself on is tinder lmao

Which I don't use, been years

[primal wharf]

You didn't miss out much for not using Tinder.

[nova remnant]

I'm scared of what you see

It was very normal for me

[primal wharf]

Idk, maybe it's different if it's not in NA

[nova remnant]

Now too lazy to do anything, sleep instead

[primal wharf]

I've never used tinder or any dating apps.

[nova remnant]

I used it to talk to people

It works for that x3

Met many nice people

[primal wharf]

[supple raptor]

thankfully I met my wife in elementary school and dated her in high school so I never had to experience modern dating.

I'd be single if I had to try online dating.

[primal wharf]

I will never use dating apps. Let's see how many years will it take before I break my own vow.

[primal wharf]

@nova remnant make more chopsticks

[nova remnant]

But they come out bad

And very slowly

I need smol

[nova remnant]

What's elementary school

How old are students in it

America naming on things too hard to understand

[primal wharf]

English is hard anyways

[nova remnant]

time to learn Chinese

[primal wharf]

You get similarly spelt words with very different pronunciations
Drought
Thought
Thorough
Through
Threw

[supple raptor]

5-12 years old. we met when we were 5.

[nova remnant]

Lucky nubby :p

I just stopped talking to people after school D:

[primal wharf]

I'm trying to talk to people to not lose my social skills, people fucking bully me for being awkward.

Fucking bullies

[supple raptor]

read and read

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

Cursed

[primal wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/shirakami-fubuki-hololive-yabe-vtuber-gif-19227770

[primal wharf]

Bat and bat

[nova remnant]

I read it without realizing it was read also

[primal wharf]

Smol sus is online and coming home soon, now you can gen more skinny legs later.

[lyric zealot]

no i was not, nubby is talking about SDXL model with SD1.5 model as refiner

[nova remnant]

hopefully he isn't busy making tensor engines

smol is here

Gonna bonk me

[nova remnant]

then what were you doing

[primal wharf]

[supple raptor]

i've started learning japanese over the last few months (slowly) and as a native english speaker i've been surprised how much more sense most of it makes so far.

[nova remnant]

I started learning English very early

RuneScape days

When things on the internet weren't available for my language pretty much

:p

[primal wharf]

Runescape made me not forget English when I was in China.

[supple raptor]

yeah, i feel lucky for english to have been my first language

[nova remnant]

(It still is confusing but I just know it)

Lmao

[primal wharf]

I was reading English stuffs too in the net cafes in China, I wonder what would the people nearby who saw my screen think, lmao.

[supple raptor]

i would not want to try to learn this confusing ass language as a second language.

[nova remnant]

Hmm

Russian is one I want to learn more

Wait

What is Russian like for you guys

It feels similar to English

[supple raptor]

Russian makes absolutely 0 sense to me.

[nova remnant]

Oh

Nubby

[lyric zealot]

thank you

[nova remnant]

Imagine English is backwards for me

Russian isn't

[supple raptor]

You mean like the order of words?

[nova remnant]

Yeah

[primal wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-dance-russian-beer-gif-13847955

[nova remnant]

And how you read them

Each letter

And how they sound

Like

[primal wharf]

Cyka bylat

[lyric zealot]

i was literally scolling from where i last read, and replying to messages

[nova remnant]

starts hearing gunshots and invisible mutants

[primal wharf]

Chiki briki iv damke

[supple raptor]

to be fair, I have never tried to learn any amount of russian, but looking at the cyrillic alphabet is even more confusing to me than trying to use 2 different alphabets in japanese (i haven't started kanji yet, but that scares me).

[primal wharf]

Chiki briki panchiy vriki (I have no idea how the scavs pronounce the 2 last words there)

[nova remnant]

Asian languages all scary

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

how can you read those alien runes

Is how I feel

[nova remnant]

Portuguese and Russian... They just work

[supple raptor]

I think cyrillic confuses me because a lot of the symbols are similar enough to the alphabet I know that it seems like I should be able to guess the sound, but it usually isn't even close.

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/gene-gene-endrody-todd-todd-howard-bethesda-gif-23229883

[lyric zealot]

kinda how everyone feel about all other languages probably

[nova remnant]

Why can't I just learn them in a day

[lyric zealot]

guess what time is it now

[nova remnant]

[lyric zealot]

it's making more engine time

[nova remnant]

Go to engine jail

@lyric zealot been using that blazing drive model stuff

looks super nice

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/splash-boating-fall-fail-gif-8702681

[lyric zealot]

really, maybe the negative prompt that i have doesnt work well with it?

[nova remnant]

I dunno

Also

I have to try more

I don't remember what I did for positive and negative

I was liking euler a 30 steps

[lyric zealot]

tbh

after having the speed boost

im really liking euler a

[nova remnant]

I tried some dpm

They look weird on that model

[lyric zealot]

did you see the noise at the start?

is it weird compared to other models?

[nova remnant]

You think I can afford to load previews

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-cry-gif-24016801

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/satania-gabriel-dropout-cute-laugh-gif-15859045

[nova remnant]

@lyric zealot later you try euler a 10 steps

[native halo]

how bloated with extensions is your webui ?

[nova remnant]

think extensions run on my gpu ?

[lyric zealot]

you meant with the blazing model?

[nova remnant]

yeah

I was trying each 10 steps they all looked nice and completely different lmao

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/shoko-asahara-asahara-shoko-aum-shinrikyo-aum-gif-25819344

[nova remnant]

maybe thats what you mean by the noise at the start

[supple raptor]

Pretty much the only ones that have a chance of looking decent at 10 steps are Restart and the various DPM++ samplers.

[nova remnant]

same thing but 30 steps

[nova remnant]

[lyric zealot]

i created the wrong engine

[supple raptor]

[gusty palm]

i got silly tavern working

[nova remnant]

Explain

[gusty palm]

text gen thingy llm

[nova remnant]

Oh

[gusty palm]

its like an alternative ui from the standard one but u can make bots talk to eachother in group chat and stuff

[lyric zealot]

^ Sleepti model

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cuteness-overload-so-cute-gif-14116092

[native halo]

do omao gens

[nova remnant]

Finally normal clothes

They were coming out with the most intricate things ever

[lyric zealot]

I can't really get the lora to work

[nova remnant]

because its one of my generic quality prompts lmao

[native halo]

[zinc flax]

Niice

[nova remnant]

liquid rubber clothes

[zinc flax]

Cute round eyes

[native halo]

shes ready

[nova remnant]

huh

To work as an electrician ?

[native halo]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-gif-26849967

[nova remnant]

Can't get shocked if you're wearing those

smart

@lyric zealot

trying prompt matrix with the quality tags to see the combinations

[lyric zealot]

I'm so close

so close to being done with tensorRT

[native halo]

more omao

ignore hand

[nova remnant]

@lyric zealot funny, did the combination of quality tags, and did a little blind test to see which image I liked the most and it was the one with all of the prompts x3

[lyric zealot]

do it again

[nova remnant]

10 minutes

Time taken: 9 min. 19.0 sec.

[native halo]

fastest amd gpu

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-geerken-geerken-animator-animation-cartoon-gif-16352410

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-amd-fsr2-radeon-upscaling-gif-14361789650951144310

[zinc flax]

#🍥｜anime message

[native halo]

ok

ok

[nova remnant]

highest iq rtx users

still counts to steven

idk

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/full-metal-panic-anime-fumoffu-gif-13091153

1060 6GB

[nova remnant]

oh

Used market gpu I see a bunch of people list "RTX 1060"

Lmao

[native halo]

real

[bitter latch]

Fake but realistic disney movie poster with detailed credits and text "Hogwarts Strikes back"(hogwarts star wars hybrid film:1), fine art, soft colors, black outline style, elegant, very detailed Cel-Shaded With shaded detail's, soft shadows, sharp focus, elegant detail, HDR, detailed shadows, cinamatic lighting, unreal render, realistic

used a xl anime model

[nova remnant]

Sign saying "I don't know"

SDXL isn't extremely good with text

Its fun to get cats with little signs

[nova remnant]

I have no clue

Its from a service

[nova remnant]

Me praying for more thick thighs

[native halo]

proper girl clothing according to openai

[nova remnant]

KEK

[gloomy lodge]

terrorist?

[native halo]

nun now let us pray 🙏 🙇‍♂️

[nova remnant]

good idea

thick thighs nun

test for the new model

[nova remnant]

try restart

the sampler

Are you sure about that

let me find some rtx 1070ti for sale

[nova remnant]

oh my god the mini people there haha

Or is she the giant one

Either way I'm in

[native halo]

shes massive

[gloomy lodge]

whatever makes it hotter

[native halo]

1 girl blonde hair, white shirt with printed words "skill issue",anime style

[gloomy lodge]

1 girl blonde hair, white shirt with printed words "I'm racist",anime style

[native halo]

💀

dalle 3

[nova remnant]

@native halo come lets pray

[native halo]

the omao images i posted earlier were from SD

[nova remnant]

oh

You can get it

no

look at this message

[gloomy lodge]

Local stable diff is best

[nova remnant]

This

[nova remnant]

(divine light pours on her:1.3) lmao

[gloomy lodge]

((Antonio J. Manzanedo, Anne Bachelier)) toss these names at the end see if something good happens

[nova remnant]

Generating, it will take a few minutes

[gloomy lodge]

💔 oh nyoh

[native halo]

dalle

[nova remnant]

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-math-maths-cirno-fumo-gif-20668084

My favorite cirno gif

[nova remnant]

wait a minute

Thing on head

Frills

Touhou girl

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/cirno-gaming-cirno-gaming-fumo-touhou-gif-25772904

[supple raptor]

Yesh

[nova remnant]

I know everything about touhou

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-cute-pussy-cat-gif-15745491

[nova remnant]

@gloomy lodge oh god those did a lot on the images x3

never good quality but still @gloomy lodge

cross eyed one kek

[supple raptor]

Touhou or no?

[nova remnant]

I do not see frills, I declare not touhou

I'm sending an email

I'll ask them to remove that character or add frills

👍

[native halo]

tohou or not???

[nova remnant]

jail-hou

Square sun and bars

[native halo]

[nova remnant]

holy bjesus

[supple raptor]

I tricked you. You forgot the other rule I told you. If it's not Miku and I gen it, then it's probably Touhou.

[nova remnant]

Can I say something cursed

A very cursed idea

[native halo]

idk what happened here tbh

[nova remnant]

What if you do that but its feet instead

https://tenor.com/view/cat-running-away-escape-getaway-bye-gif-16631286

[native halo]

hard to do it because dalle only does square images 😔

👍

[supple raptor]

And if you ask for an anime girl who's sitting then you're likely to get bonked for the inevitable upskirts.

[nova remnant]

very natural

[native halo]

natural hands

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-gif-26849967

[nova remnant]

I don't think dalle likes 🦶

[native halo]

i cant walk so feet are offensive 😔

[supple raptor]

Asked for a ghost. SD just shot the Cirno to make her into the ghost I guess.

[nova remnant]

or is it ghost blood

if its a ghost can we really see

[native halo]

shes witnessing the third impact and feeling the effects already

[supple raptor]

Ghost of a hentai monster or something. IDK

[nova remnant]

@supple raptor I put (touhou:1.3) on the church girl prompt

[native halo]

idk what is this

[nova remnant]

noooo

wtff

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/kurono-fireforce-anime-mooneyes-gif-26035604

my honest reaction

[nova remnant]

just listening to music and dalle

@native halo

https://tenor.com/view/qing-clan-gif-25159840

[nova remnant]

looks like this cat whatever it is

[gloomy lodge]

MORE Prayer

[nova remnant]

dalle is censoring my cute anime girl praying prompt

what is wrong with this thing

[native halo]

praying is offensive 😔

[nova remnant]

one out of 50 tries

[dusk seal]

asukachads can't stop winning

[nova remnant]

"Please make steven not have access to dalle anymore"

[native halo]

done

[nova remnant]

@dusk seal help

[native halo]

most normal looking girl in attack on titan

[wooden coral]

how does my open pose controlnet input give my character a beard

[native halo]

the white dots in face look like a beard

[dusk seal]

WHAT?

[dusk seal]

OH LORD WHAT IS IT LICKING

[nova remnant]

Its normal

[bitter latch]

do what I do. block'em

[nova remnant]

They are both cats

[native halo]

my bad we will only generate girls with burqa 4 u 🙏

[dusk seal]

I'm so close to saving the children

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-defoe-respect-gif-24551385

[dusk seal]

umm asuka... not like this

[supple raptor]

Wildcards just threw a hammock prompt at the new merge I'm testing and it got it almost right in a single try

[dusk seal]

yep that looks human

[dusk seal]

rip

[wooden coral]

why

[native halo]

very cute

[wooden coral]

I swear to god i dont get it, how can an open pose skeleton affect if the character has a beard

like wth

[native halo]

try with another model

[wooden coral]

I tried like 5 already

all that helps is putting more strength onto 1girl and using beard and 1boy as neg with extra strength as well

[native halo]

or try with a girls lora like a character

[wooden coral]

still makes no sense to me

[wispy canopy]

tensorrt such a gamechanger tho

[nova remnant]

Is this the right anime ?

[native halo]

real anime

[foggy pebble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spsEqQJeWyE

[wooden coral]

Keeps making weird hands in the bottom right, but this is really solid

[nova remnant]

[native halo]

playin with low brightness latent no more dark loras or prompts

[gusty palm]

how owo

[native halo]

cd tuner extension

[gusty palm]

woah thats cool ty

[native halo]

heres a darker one

[nova remnant]

Go even darker

[gusty palm]

oh god the settings theres so many

[native halo]

this one is so dark it got full of artifacts

[lyric zealot]

dark?

old gen tho ^

[nova remnant]

I would let her pat me

And my friend

[lyric zealot]

I disallow it

[nova remnant]

SDXL is very fun to use

(when you can generate 3k images in 10 seconds)

Idk

3000x3000

Whatever that is

[native halo]

darker

[nova remnant]

Too dark

Can't see the tight suit well

[native halo]

its ok ill take my suit off 👍

[gusty palm]

this is cool i think i was been loking for an extension like this

[native halo]

yea it also has add detail option havent tried yet tho 🤓

[nova remnant]

Cat found the pastel paint buckets

[gusty palm]

i always play with the color correction stuff when i post my stuff on instagram and ive been wondering if thered be a way to pre-process color correction

i wanna figure out the color map thingy

[keen hollow]

yeah that seems to be true. haven't used them in a while, and sees I won't be going back

[keen hollow]

ew

[gusty palm]

i dont know cmyk very good

[keen hollow]

people were up late last night, woo. ya'll are night owls or European 😛

[nova remnant]

mike

[native halo]

i was gonna use an image program like gimp to get cmy values of the color i want but looks like it doesnt accept color values like 255.255.255 just strenght values from 1 to 20 😔

[keen hollow]

sure you can

quick demo

[native halo]

we aint talking about that its about cd tuner

[keen hollow]

... what?

[nova remnant]

I've seen that cat before >.>

[keen hollow]

LOL

yeah I just grabbed the latest image 😄

[native halo]

this one

[nova remnant]

[native halo]

least bloated a1111

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/sunglasses-on-shades-look-stare-double-sunglasses-gif-17838198

[native halo]

needs more extensions 🤓

[nova remnant]

@native halo

[keen hollow]

not sure what "Detail" is, but the C/M/Y color values are there

[native halo]

nope it only goes from 1 to 20 not 1 - 255 so its a strenght value

[keen hollow]

oh, 1-20 in the extension?

yeah I dunno what those arbitrary values are

[native halo]

least bloated a1111 install

[nova remnant]

gtx users smh my head

[native halo]

[nova remnant]

@native halo Your bloated thing needs healing

[native halo]

i need my daily 💉

[nova remnant]

[gusty palm]

yeah gonna need to figure something out might ask dev for a color picker or something

[native halo]

yea its a new extension so maybe he will add more stuff later

[nova remnant]

Just me or is this a very weird pose

Somethings off

[native halo]

need to see it from behind to verify it properly

[nova remnant]

@native halo (Something) girl will get you, she angy

[native halo]

[nova remnant]

This model is crazy

And I don't know what I'm doing help

[native halo]

needs more dark

[nova remnant]

noo

shes meditating to get better fingers

[strong thunder]

ha ha ha it works 😄

problem is the watermark...

[dawn jasper]

This is an amazing image.

[keen hollow]

haha right on, glad it worked for ya

[nova remnant]

all girls are inherently angels, all packed together in sugar and spice, but then there are harmful social conditioning that can affect a healthy mindset (basically the outcome of a preying economic model). also aging is unaccepptable which is actually a shortcoming in medical science

[nova remnant]

wildcards 🧡

[keen hollow]

when you're running a 90 minute generation set, and you realize about 70 minutes in that you messed up one of the parameters...

[sonic portal]

i changed up the prompt a tiny bit and got dis

pic looks much better than anything i could make with my own prompts

[untold glacier]

Civitai going full corpo now

[topaz lichen]

bond yield curves have been negative for quite some time now. will be exciting when they go back up again.

[untold glacier]

Welcome to the server!
If your message wasn't meant as a joke response, then it's likely more suited to #🌶｜off-topic or #1008652627204132904

[topaz lichen]

age of easy funding is ending.

[untold glacier]

🤖 ?
Solve this:

[nova remnant]

looks good, idea with prompting is to use certain keywords that reflect on the core idea, try not to make prompts too big because that will get stretched too thin

[sonic portal]

im trying to prompt some stuff on my own do u wanna see?

[nova remnant]

sure 🙂

[sonic portal]

i wanted it to be bright and yellowey

but ik theres probably alot i could do to make it look better

[nova remnant]

that;s pretty nice, i like it, simple yet very focused i also like the idea with color tone

[sonic portal]

it coot

but theres stuff with brackets u can do that im not doing, and i thought they make the pic look better

[nova remnant]

you mean the emphasis with weights? i don't use them too often, i only apply them on generic defaults and keep the rest of the regular prompts in normal weight

let me show you an exampe...

so this is my default generic that i apply too all anime
(highres, highly detailed:1.2), (aesthetic, masterpiece)
but for regular prompt i'd use the words w/o weights in most cases

[sonic portal]

so sometimes u dont want to use weights?

[nova remnant]

yeah i avoid them in most situation with my regular prompts

because when you apply weights that can affect other words too

so unless its very necessary to bring out a certain aspect in the image i avoid applying them too much

[sonic portal]

oooooooh

but then i look at other peoples pics and they look better, so then i feel like i should use weights to make my image look better too

[nova remnant]

well the pic you just showed above is uniquely creative so don't underestimate your own ideas, having too much noise and chaos in image isn't always great

what model are you using btw for that image above?

[sonic portal]

uhmmm, the one nubby made

[untold glacier]

In the end, experimentation and finding what works best with the model and network extensions you're using is a process. In my opinion, if you want to know how other people are making such great images, look them up on something like civitai: https://civitai.com/images
And click an image you like to see the prompt (if they've included it) and various settings. This will help you learn common uses, tags, methods of prompting, etc.

[nova remnant]

seriously? what you just did with it is pretty amazing

[sonic portal]

i really like this image that was just made

[nova remnant]

your prompts are right on

[sonic portal]

u can see the prompts?

[nova remnant]

its as creative to keep your images simple and focused as it can be to make them complex

[untold glacier]

Yep. If you pull it into your PNG Info tab, it'll show up if the metadata is included with the image.

[sonic portal]

i added the last bit myself with all the environment details and clothing

i yoinked the first bit from someone elses prompt

[untold glacier]

That's a great way to see how others' prompts affect the gen, especially across models.

[sonic portal]

i never know what type of language to use when doing prompts, like i mean on image boards the tags are very short, like 1-2 words so before i tried to do it that way, but doing the opposite also gets better results, using lots of words for a single detail

[untold glacier]

As for the amount of attention per word, it's best to experiment a little at a time to better understand what exactly is going on with the changes from prompt to prompt. Also best to use a standard seed, with multiple batches, e.g. 4, so you're not thinking that something is changing when it's not. If you have, "1girl, standing, peace sign, frown" and you're wanting to see how attention works, then try it one word at a time for the more difficult to gen ideas: "1girl, standing, peace sign, (frown:1.3)", etc.

[nova remnant]

you can take two approach with prompts, using keywords and using descriptive sentence, usually with sd 1.5 model keyword appraoch work pretty good, but with SDXL latter is a better approach due to its context algorithm

[sonic portal]

i always used keywords and not sentences, but now i see sentences also work well too

[untold glacier]

This is because some models were made with booru tags in mind. Most of the anime models are like that, although there are some exceptions (DarkAlfa being one). It's a difference in prompting language. More realistic models usually are more lenient with language and wording, and generally work better with natural-language prompting as opposed to booru-language prompting.

SDXL vs 1.x is quite different when it comes to prompt-language. SDXL uses a much more natural language system, and will not work well with the old booru-style tags.

[sonic portal]

sdxl works very very slowly on my pc

[untold glacier]

Yeah, and it'll likely be that way for a while--if not forever. If all you're wanting to do is gen anime, then it's best to stick with 1.x for now.

Also, welcome to the server! Glad to see new faces getting into SD.

[sonic portal]

I-

its hard to understand things

your explaining is very very concise but im also an idiot

[untold glacier]

It's a lot of information coming at you all at once, yeah. I get it. One of the best ways to progress is to try out new things. Try other people's prompts. Test out changes. Always do so with a standard seed (setting the seed to something and not changing it) and with multiple at once (i.e. seed 1000, 1001, 1002, 1003) so you can see what's happening accurately and not come to the wrong conclusions.

Don't worry about downloading tons of models and LoRAs and trying to understand how they work. Start with one, like Nubby's you're using and see how it works. Then move onto a good popular model like Aurora (for booru-based tagging) or DarkAlfa (for more natural language based prompting.

[topaz lichen]

the CLIP system really just sees "Tokens". Tokens are just numbers that relate a word (or any string of characters like a phrase) to a specific node.

[untold glacier]

Also, ensure your clip skip is always at 2.

[sonic portal]

ooooh, right i get that, because i always click the dice little icon and it changes the seed to some ungodly high number, but if u put the seed at a set number and change prompts u can see what is actually being changed and stuff

[untold glacier]

Exactly.

[sonic portal]

downloading more models is tough fo me tho

u needs the right vae too for the pic to even end out good and i can never find those

[untold glacier]

Use this one and don't change it, it doesn't matter as much as some others think when using anime models: https://huggingface.co/hakurei/waifu-diffusion-v1-4/blob/main/vae/kl-f8-anime2.ckpt

[nova remnant]

you would usually just need 2 vae for all your renders kl-f8 yumeshiro just linked and the other https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/sd-vae-ft-mse-original/tree/main first one is good for anime the 2nd works better with realism

[sonic portal]

no changing?

[untold glacier]

I'd argue that it doesn't work "better" with realism, but just differently. I rarely change these days. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[untold glacier]

If you're using an anime model, then I wouldn't.

[sonic portal]

i will be always using anime models

okay maybe not always but a majority of the time

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[sonic portal]

its just my personal opionion but sometimes the realistic ai images look very odd and creep me out

at least when i see bad anime pics its not that bad

[untold glacier]

There's definitely an uncanny valley there that doesn't happen with anime, as it was never real.

Though some could say that people are just used to bad anime art. 😅
I've looked through my old anime wallpapers folder and found the average quality a lot worse than I remembered.

[supple raptor]

100% agreed. Even realistic images that are pretty good tend to be a bit creepy.

[sonic portal]

theres something i dont understand, whats a sampling method?

whenever i change it stuff looks weird

[supple raptor]

Here, I just woke up and don't feel like typing an explanation: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers

[untold glacier]

Haha, here I was expecting a standard Nubby explanation.

Good morning to ya.

[supple raptor]

Good morning

[sonic portal]

morning nubby

nubby and yumeshiro are the best teachers

where would we all be without them

[untold glacier]

Aww, I'm here to help out once in a blue moon. Nubby is far more in that category. I appreciate it though.

[supple raptor]

shudders in #🤝｜tech-support

[untold glacier]

Lol

[sonic portal]

i used tech support in other servers and tbh it was better just to ask in a main channel

not entiely sure how it is here, but tech support in other places sucked

[supple raptor]

I think it's better here than it used to be. When I used to hang out in there from time to time, it was usually just the people asking for help trying to help each other. Hardly anyone who knew what they were doing was in there. It's been a long time for me though.

[wind girder]

it depends, people try to participate

but this is a free product

nobody gets paid for support

so good attitude and waiting power is usually key to good help

[untold glacier]

The ones that I recommend you use though are DPM++ SDE at 18-25 steps for solid gens with good cohesion, DPM++ 2M Karras at 30-50 steps for gens where you want more detail, or the original great sampler: Euler A at 28-40 steps for the simplest gens like anime-screencaps and such.

[supple raptor]

Wait, you mean it isn't good practice to ask the same question every 30 seconds and get mad when nobody replies by the 3rd message?

That's an actual thing that happened in here a while back XD

[wind girder]

it happens a lot, I participated a lot in tech support over the years

a lot too much to be honest

so reminding that nobody gets paid and everybody that answers you is just doing it for your pleasure is usually good :p

I'm so tired right now, I've been dying a lot in Lies of P x=) you tried that game ? quite the great time

[supple raptor]

I haven't, I'll have to take a look. BG3 has somehow managed to keep my attention for 500 hours so far.

[wind girder]

damn, quite the good run

[untold glacier]

Wait, why did it respond to that?

Darn you discord

[wind girder]

cause I posted at the wrong time :p

[untold glacier]

Holy cow

I need to get back into it. I've been in 2077 lately.

[wind girder]

I need to get back into BG3, I wanted to earlier but I've been working on my streaming channel, and BG3 is quite heavy on good streamer, hard to take any place in there

thus Lies of P x)

[untold glacier]

You stream? Wanna link me?

[wind girder]

it's in french but sure. still a new channel, and I learned yesterday that I could record my lives... so the channel is quite empty still

https://www.twitch.tv/guizmogway

[sonic portal]

not the fingieeees

[untold glacier]

Followed.

[wind girder]

thanks, it does help x)

[swift lava]

Question with this. What has your experience been with Karras samplers as opposed to the base DPM samplers?
I have defaulted to DPM++ 2M Karras for a while, but I don't really have a robust reason for that over base DPM.

[untold glacier]

Yeah, I made an error and corrected my comment there. It's 2M Karras.

[wind girder]

you juste described exactly my problem too, and my situation xD

[untold glacier]

I've done some looking into things, here's a recent comparison of the two on Aurora and Breakdomain:

2M Karras

2M

General sampler comparison on Aurora

[swift lava]

I wish I had a better idea of the effect each one has. They produce relatively similar results, so it might be nice to be able to look at a gen and say "I think I need to use SDE for this prompt."

[untold glacier]

Be aware, the images are quite large. 😅

[untold glacier]

Generally speaking, what I said here holds true in my experience: #🍥｜anime message

If I want a gen with the best cohesion, I usually go with DPM++ SDE. If I want more detail, I'll go with 2M Karras. This is all for anime anyway.

For more realistic stuff, I often with with 3M SDE--unless it starts glitching up my gens with the LoRAs and network extensions I'm using.

[stable crane]

I'm still a huge fan of EulerA

[untold glacier]

Euler A is great. It's just a bit too indistinct on the finer elements compared to SDE for me.

[autumn violet]

Hi Guizmus, I hope you've been well

[sonic portal]

this one came out nice

[wind girder]

Hey there panda 🙂 it's been going mostly ok, thank you 🙂 you're all right too ?

[magic wave]

I make Cyan

And hello Guizmoose

[wind girder]

moooooooose

[magic wave]

Restart Sampler

[autumn violet]

I would say okay too. Just keep doing your best, that is enough.

[magic wave]

https://tenor.com/view/moose-nature-gif-24639455

[untold glacier]

I'm already restarting the sampling process with hires fix, why would I want to have its attention split 4 ways as opposed to 2? 😛

[magic wave]

Because Restart Sampler

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/nagatoro-hayase-nagatoro-annoyed-glare-role-eyes-gif-22126986

[magic wave]

Here waifu

Sponsored by Restart sampler

[wind girder]

you got to keep on being yourself for sure. And doing your best, not always the simplest
Working on that channel does help me feel good those days, a thing to do each and every day at least :p

[autumn violet]

Yeah, it's good to have something to keep you busy. Even better if it is something you enjoy.

[magic wave]

Nun mommy

Also sponsored by Restart sampler™️

[untold glacier]

What's that model you're using?

[steady grail]

cute

[magic wave]

KuroGishikiv1.1

https://huggingface.co/Aotsuyu/Gishiki/blob/main/KuroGishikiv1.1.safetensors

• My Sciamano240 style LoRA, and hadanuri1

[untold glacier]

Lol. Time to reboot SD

[magic wave]

O, I never get that xD

[wind girder]

I hoped NaN exception came with kebab
they don't

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/madoka-clapping-slow-clap-sarcasm-dull-gif-8520519

[wind girder]

thank you

I'll show myself out though

[untold glacier]

Once I finally got it working, it... Restart doesn't seem to like me very much.

It looks like a bad fanart, lol.

[topaz lichen]

the left hand looks normal to me though

[magic wave]

You got hires fix? And I mean

I haven't sent my LoRA :O

And I also got Adetailer on

[untold glacier]

I had most of the LoRAs, and adetailer is on. I didn't see any other LoRAs in the PNG info.

[magic wave]

Sciamano240, hair slider and faceage :o

[untold glacier]

Yep

[magic wave]

Well, its pretty important for the style :o

[untold glacier]

Indeed. That's why I got them, heh.

[magic wave]

Wel, faceage and hairlength are just for the hair length and face age :o

They don't do too much for style :O

[untold glacier]

? Then what were you referring to when you said "its" pretty important for the style?

[magic wave]

This is how it looks without my Sciamano240 LoRA

[magic wave]

My Sciamano240 LoRA :O

I trained it, so you can't have it

xD

You may have some other sciamano240 LoRA

[untold glacier]

Wait... so I have a different Sciamano240 Lora?

Lol

[magic wave]

But I trained a better one

Yeah I think theres up like 3 on Civit

But mine is the best

[untold glacier]

Ah, well that's the difference for sure.

[untold glacier]

Like to hold on to your LoRAs then huh.

[magic wave]

Though, model still looks good even without my LoRA

[magic wave]

I have like

30 unpublished LoRAs XD

Cause I'm lazy to post em and no one asks for em xD

[keen hollow]

been experimenting with negative prompts, are starting to wonder if just using NO negatives often yields my favorite results...

[finite herald]

careful owo

[wooden coral]

[magic wave]

No bonk

[finite herald]

smile, you are my fave to bully dw

[magic wave]

O, pog, at least I'm your fave at something

[finite herald]

hehe

[magic wave]

No negative does look kinda cool

[keen hollow]

It's just been that way across multiple prompts

running another one

I was checking about 10 different negative prompts, narrowed it down to these three as typically the best

I mean... it's subjective obviously, but... no negative wins again

[magic wave]

I mean yeah I think no negative seems to be winning :o

[keen hollow]

I need some more prompts to test 😛

[near elbow]

are we having fun yet?

[supple raptor]

The Karras part is the scheduler. It controls how noise is added to the generation between timesteps. enough information here to probably make your head explode

I find that Karras scheduling usually looks better on the DPM++ 2M sampler than without, on other samplers, I've found it to mostly look different, but not necessarily better.

[magic wave]

No Negatives VS With Negatives

[keen hollow]

which do you prefer?

[magic wave]

I think in this case, I preffer with the negatives because it looks closer to the style I want :o

[keen hollow]

what's for dinner tonight everyone?

wow.. the negatives altered this one like crazy...

[supple raptor]

idk yet. my wife will probably pick something up from the store since she's going shopping after work.

[sonic portal]

whats a lycoris?

[supple raptor]

lycoris is an umbrella term for several different types of LoRAs.

[magic wave]

We got Mommy Miku Milkus ™️

[sonic portal]

uhm, idk how to get one to work on a1111

theres no tab thingy for it

[magic wave]

If your A1111 install is updated to latest, you don't need a new tab

It works like normal LoRAs

[sonic portal]

do i put the stuff in the lora folder?

[magic wave]

Yeah

[sonic portal]

ooooooh

[supple raptor]

yeah, since I think webui v1.5, lycoris is natively supported in A1111 so you just use them like a normal lora.

[keen hollow]

prompts with steakpunk and wire elements that are more complex yield a lot of changes

simple portraits are a little less dramatic..

still kinda like no negative...

[untold glacier]

Yeah, can't really tell much on these without more seeds. I usually recommend at least 4 for comparisons like this.

[supple raptor]

just found out the wildcard list I'm using has jack-o challenge in it

she is now XD

it's better than 1.5, but it's really not good at it.

if you are using a finetuned model I would guess those are even worse at it than the base model is.

[near elbow]

i'm so happy with SDXL, no special anime models for me anymore (except for... concepts that SDXL is not trained on 😇 )

[supple raptor]

Dall-E 3 is the best I've seen at text and even it gets it wrong more often than not unless it's super common text like "happy birthday" or something like that.

[near elbow]

yes - this specifically is with realisticfreedom XL, but base SDXL has all the styles you ever want in one model, just prompt for what you want, it's crazy (there's also SDXL style selector for automatic1111 that makes it even easier)

and 1024x1024 native means no more hires fix or anything for normal images

of course

https://civitai.com/models/138977/realistic-freedom-sfw-and-nsfw

[golden stratus]

i have wildcard extension thingy downloaded but idk how to use it lol

aalso

cool or nah

[near elbow]

mods may say "that's not dress that's body paint" and question SFWness, though... but it's a bit random IMHO

[golden stratus]

what on earth have you just sasid

you hearted the image

therefore ill take it as you liked it

[supple raptor]

which one did you download and do you have the auto-complete extension installed as well?

[golden stratus]

i have autocomplete but i think its for danbooru tags only idk tho

ill find the extension

[near elbow]

some text sample 🙂

[dawn jasper]

Fabulous.

[golden stratus]

i dont actually know what the extenssion is @supple raptor i just have smth at the top of my sscreen that says WIldcard Manager

[near elbow]

ah that... ((((((sign saying "sample some text")))))) a cute anime woman with a big halloween pumpkin, evil smile, cats Negative prompt: loli,underage,teen,child Steps: 30, Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 208406145, Size: 896x1152, Model hash: dce7eb8449, Model: realisticFreedomSFW_alpha, Style Selector Enabled: True, Style Selector Randomize: False, Style Selector Style: base, Version: v1.5.2

[golden stratus]

Dynamic prompts its called

i think

idk

[near elbow]

i like it, but mods may not. i am not a mod, no harm done

now it's getting surreal 🙂

[supple raptor]

ah, I don't really like that one. The extension is really bloated and most of the wildcards that it comes with are really bad. I like this one better https://github.com/Tsukreya/Umi-AI-Wildcards

Using the wildcards is the same for either one though, you just have to enclose the name of the wildcard in double underscores. The easiest way is to use this extension https://github.com/DominikDoom/a1111-sd-webui-tagcomplete.git which will autocomplete your wildcard names so you just start typing __NameOfYourWildcard and select the one you want.

[near elbow]

automatic1111, not quite recent release

yes it's a mess - but AFAIK the other infrastructures do SDXL now as well

auto1111 was the only option way back when i started and i stuck with it

i have no clue about comfyUI but i bet help is just a quick google search away for you 😉

https://aituts.com/comfyui-sdxl/

etc etc

[sonic portal]

wats a wildcard list?

[supple raptor]

it's a text file or yaml that contains multiple words or partial/full prompts, that can be randomly added to your prompt. So for example, instead of having to pick the clothing you want your character to be wearing, you could have a whole list of clothes options in a file named clothing and just type __clothing__ in the prompt to have it randomly pick one of them for you.

[sonic portal]

wait a second, when u download the file off of like civit does it come in a zip folder?

or is it something u dont download?

[near elbow]

maybe you open a thread to discuss this? not much to do with anime 😉

for illustration 🙂

[sonic portal]

-_-

[supple raptor]

From civ, it most likely would yeah. You could also type your own. Most of the ones I have just came with this extension https://github.com/Tsukreya/Umi-AI-Wildcards
and you can see the wildcard files that it came with here: https://github.com/Tsukreya/Umi-AI-Wildcards/tree/main/wildcards

[near elbow]

upping the image-to-text ratio

[sonic portal]

how am i able to recreate this quality for myself?

[near elbow]

well, anime artwork color sound smell . anime style, key visual, vibrant, studio anime, highly detailed Negative prompt: photo, deformed, black and white, realism, disfigured, low contrast, loli,underage,teen,child Steps: 30, Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 3701037164, Size: 896x1152, Model hash: dce7eb8449, Model: realisticFreedomSFW_alpha, Style Selector Enabled: True, Style Selector Randomize: False, Style Selector Style: Anime, Version: v1.5.2 with automatic1111 and a good SDXL model, running on my PC locally

[sonic portal]

oh thats, sdxl

i see then

[near elbow]

there are good SD 1.5 based anime models, but with SDXL i can simply go to photorealistic style with the same seed and model, just a prompt change

good for lazy folks like me who just load one model and do all with it

[sonic portal]

lazy folk, right...

dosent seem lazy to me

[near elbow]

yes it is, just look a her 🙂

[silk narwhal]

hi Lazzy ;P

[near elbow]

SDXL is better with spelling but not good yet

[silk narwhal]

need to get comfy or fooocus to get working before i can try sdxl first :/

[near elbow]

but nice style, and just with the prompt