🍥｜anime

[nova remnant]

sweet, thanks for the share 🙂

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

gonna look for it now

[lyric zealot]

there's lora for the previously pic tho, so here's the metadata

[nova remnant]

the author for calicomix even released a dangerous cute version too

heh

[brittle jay]

Unless your prompt is extremely big there is no need for 2

If you need to use something at 2 then it is probably not the right token/tokens to use

[brittle jay]

This very good. Needs upscaling tho

[nova remnant]

can you explain about the token use how that incorporates with output quality, for example im liking the texture when using the weight of 2

[brittle jay]

Try using something at weight 10 for example

It will just give you noise

Because it's too stromg

[nova remnant]

yeah 10 would be too strong but let me share the prompt that im using and i've tested those same parameters with 1.6 and 2 for low quality and worst quality....

[lyric zealot]

I'm too lazy to upscale stuff

[nova remnant]

bad anatomy, bad proportions, (disfigured, deformed, mutilated, malformed, mangled:1.2), long neck, bad hands, unnatural hands, (fused fingers, interlocked fingers, poorly rendered fingers:1.2), muscular, asymmetric, conjoined, distorted, duplicate, cloned, out of focus, cropped, (low quality, worst quality:2), oversaturated, low contrast, (greyscale, monochrome:1.1), (underexposed, overexposed:1.1), (grainy, pixelated:1.1), jpeg artifacts, multiple views, morbid

[brittle jay]

When using strength of 2 it is bad because it takes too much attention from the other tokens and also it might make the image a bit more noisy because the model struggles with such a strong strenrght

[brittle jay]

I mean that's pretty long

But still I would rather not use 2

[nova remnant]

hmm ok so i tested 1.6 and jumped to 2, perhaps i could test 1.8

[brittle jay]

The longer the prompt the more it is viable to use higher strengths

Yay nubby is here

[lyric zealot]

nowadays, most model don't need such a long negative prompt

[brittle jay]

Nubby pls give good explanation

[lyric zealot]

you usually want to keep it short and simple, so that it doesnt affect the style of the model too much

[brittle jay]

Just like 2-5 embeds is enough

Someone send embeds

[lyric zealot]

nubby

[lyric zealot]

yup, sometimes, you don't even wanna use embedding for negative prompt

but really depends on the model tho

[nova remnant]

yes about the embeddings i've had some weird outputs with anatomy then went back to use that prompt i carefully compiled mainly focusing on anatomy, and bit on the image in general

[supple raptor]

this is effectively the same as using:

(bad anatomy, bad proportions:0.5), (disfigured, deformed, mutilated, malformed, mangled:0.7), (long neck, bad hands, unnatural hands:0.5), (fused fingers, interlocked fingers, poorly rendered fingers:0.7), (muscular, asymmetric, conjoined, distorted, duplicate, cloned, out of focus, cropped:0.5), (low quality, worst quality:1.5), (oversaturated, low contrast:0.5), (greyscale, monochrome:0.6), (underexposed, overexposed:0.6), (grainy, pixelated:0.6), (jpeg artifacts, multiple views, morbid:0.5)

emphasis is normalized in WebUI

[nova remnant]

nubby how did you arritve at those values, im intrigued

[supple raptor]

by increasing the emphasis of low quality, worst quality, you're mainly lowering the emphasis of everything else.

[supple raptor]

the lowest emphasis value you used is 1, and the highest was 2. the midpoint is 1.5, or 0.5 lower than the max so you subtract 0.5 from everything. it's an estimation, but close enough.

[nova remnant]

hmm ok and the concept about applying weights that i had was the greater values gave more emphasis on a selected word and not affecting others

[supple raptor]

in ComfyUI, that is true because it doesn't normalize emphasis.

[steady grail]

weight just gives priority, right?

[native halo]

now take a look at this chungus negative with 27 embeddings (low quality, worst quality, lowres,third-party watermark:1.5),polymorphic, washed-out low-contrast (deep fried) watermark, cropped, out-of-frame, (mutated hands and fingers:1.4),blurry,Auroranegative,KFHB,bad_prompt_version2, ng_deepnegative_v1_75t,verybadimagenegative_v1.3,EasyNegative,bad-artist,bad-hands-5,bad-artist-anime,Vile_prompt3,Bad_quality,Bad-image-v2-39000, NEGS Bad Hands,negativeembed,NEGS Bad Image v4,NEGS Bad Prompt v2,badv5,deformityv6,wdbadprompt,badquality-test13-graupel-last ,badquality, colorfixerv1,re-badprompt,realisticvision-negative-embedding,an6,bhands-neg,negative_hand-neg,

[nova remnant]

uh oh

[native halo]

we need to go deeper with at least 50 neg embeddings

[steady grail]

with so many negative, you don't even need positive prompts

[brittle jay]

Indeed

[dawn jasper]

Beautiful one.

[nova remnant]

but honestly i wasn't getting my intended quality with embeddings but the prompts im using seem to be working farily well, however im still confused about not wanting to use a weight of 2 when the image seems to look what im aiming for, im somewhat puzzled

[supple raptor]

My knowledge is a little foggy on this, but as I understand it priority isn't really the right word. The prompt is tokenized, and those tokens are associated with different "weights" in the unet, which are values that ultimately are translated into images. Adding or removing emphasis acts as a multiplier applied to the weights associated with those tokens.

[supple raptor]

TY, I'm working on a new merge. I like this one so far, but I'm not sure it really fits what I was going for. It lost some of the "cute factor" that my previous model had.

[nova remnant]

nubby can you share one of your preferred render with metadata, i want to test it out on my end

[steady grail]

i suppose it's more right

[brittle jay]

Tastes like gaming

Literally gaming flavor

[brittle jay]

Nubby send him the cabbage one

[supple raptor]

I always share metadata unless the image is edited (in which case there simply isn't metadata to share). You can just search "from: bwm_nubby has:image" in here and grab one that you like.

[supple raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1098303848671613079.webp?size=64&name=cabbagegirl&quality=lossless

[nova remnant]

how does that search work? not sure i understood that keyword

type this from: bwm_nubby has:image here?

[brittle jay]

Search in discord

There is a search button/bar

[nova remnant]

ahhhh nice

[supple raptor]

discord search bar has commands. start typing from:nubby and it will give you the option to click my username, then start typing has:im and it'll give you an option to pick "image" which will show only my messages that include an image.

[nova remnant]

yes i see it now, didnt know about it

thanks, learned something new

[nova remnant]

I don't usually save art of characters I don't know but this was good

[nova remnant]

So you're like a landscape guy the mountains look nice

quick question, the default weight of a prompt w/o specifying any weight, is 1 or 0.1 ?

[supple raptor]

1.0 is default

[nova remnant]

ok. thanks

so if i used something like 0.5 that could actually negate the weight of a normal prompt

or how that works, cause i see A1111 usually starts with 1.1 when hitting cntrl+uparrow/downarrow

[brittle jay]

Ye

Or you can use () to increase by 1.1 or [] to decrease by 1.1/ increase by 0.9.

(()) = 1.1 x 1.1 = increases token weight by 1.21

Same goes for []

[supple raptor]

yeah, below 1.0 will reduce emphasis, and above will increases it.

[nova remnant]

yes, but later i started using values for more precise control

[brittle jay]

Ye

[nova remnant]

so im not getting what im wanting the image to look with weight other than 2 ....

[supple raptor]

the lowest it goes is 0 which is basically like not having the tag in the prompt at all because math.

[nova remnant]

yeah and as for my example i say from actual look of the outputs

[supple raptor]

feels like I lost too much of the toonyou-jp aesthetic in this new model

[nova remnant]

i see a distinct difference between that image and this

smol sus' look more crisp

you see that too right?

[supple raptor]

yes, mine are intentionally a bit softer with flat colors and shading.

[nova remnant]

ahh that's intended then and perfectly good

[lyric zealot]

[supple raptor]

this was the starting point for Kakigori https://civitai.com/models/92834?modelVersionId=98960

[nova remnant]

i love that kakigori mod btw, very merry feel to it

[nova remnant]

Btw how do you like choose which artstyle to apply and how detailed you want it to be because I see similar styles but with a more detailed skin shades and highlights

[supple raptor]

ToonYou-JP had major problems with anatomy and especially hands, so I decided to try merging it to keep as much of the style as possible while improving the problems that it had.

[brittle jay]

Classic prompt

[supple raptor]

I used block weight merging in several passes as well as merging in a few LoRAs to get to the point that my model is currently at. Basically just trial and error to figure out which parts of the model do the things that I wanted, then mixing and matching parts of other models that could fix the problems.

[nova remnant]

Oh I see

Damn I really know nothing about stable diffusion 💀

[supple raptor]

Don't feel bad, there's lots to know. A year ago I was just typing random words into a text box (yeah we only had one of them back then) with no idea what I was doing.

[bitter latch]

I still do that 😄

ok not so random. but kinda

[supple raptor]

@lyric zealot damn, this one could have been cute if her shoes didn't come out weird.

[lyric zealot]

i would just farm for the golden seed

[nova remnant]

No one will notice

[supple raptor]

I guess the bad feet are why she fell down the stairs

[nova remnant]

Does this look good it's form pixiv

[supple raptor]

It's not bad. The eyes, hand, and background in particular could use some work.

[nova remnant]

I never noticed these but from a normal person's pov I can tell you we barely notice details and even if there were slight mistakes it wouldn't matter

[supple raptor]

pretty good hand, too bad it grew out of her thigh

[supple raptor]

yeah, to be fair, I'm even more critical of details when I'm merging models like I am right now so they probably wouldn't have stood out to me as much normally.

[nova remnant]

that is scary to think about AI guided surgery

and i saw a video last night about high precision Ai robotics doing a surgical procedure on an egg

[runic vault]

hmm

[nova remnant]

Her eyes are too far apart I think

[nova remnant]

Because it usually should be one eye between the two eyes

[native halo]

no

[nova remnant]

Yes

I may suck at art but I know that much

[nova remnant]

What do you have against me Steven Seagal

Sea gal? Sea girl? Idk

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-seagal-stare-look-serious-intense-gif-5002551

[nova remnant]

Uhh this is so creepy

Make it stop it makes me feel annoyed

[nova remnant]

Why doesn't kether talk are they shy

[supple raptor]

kether talks sometimes. I think they just like posting images more.

[brittle jay]

They an OG but yeah they don't talk much idk why

[native halo]

blud wants a private conversation 💀

[nova remnant]

holly.......

[runic vault]

https://tenor.com/view/zz-gif-18963175

[nova remnant]

No

[nova remnant]

im keeping the weight for low quality to 1.8

[nova remnant]

I like the scifi vibe

And the hair too

[nova remnant]

Are these OCS

[nova remnant]

OCS?

[lyric zealot]

original character?

[nova remnant]

Original characters

[lyric zealot]

original creation?

[native halo]

orange county

[nova remnant]

oh, no they are not, im just generating them with random ideas for prompt

[nova remnant]

Oh because the pink haired girl looked similar to some anime one

all anime more or less look the same 🙂

[nova remnant]

Kather likes Hatsune Miku 😱😱😱

[native halo]

not the one from satoshi urushihara 🙏

[nova remnant]

there is sweetness written all over that look of it

[lyric zealot]

well, if you actually can see the now very hidden miku-mash, oh god

[nova remnant]

I like how the purple color mixes well with the green of the dress

[supple raptor]

wildcards created her and I liked it so I kept her prompt

[nova remnant]

Miku mash?

[supple raptor]

first they took our miku role, then they took our miku-mash, what will they take next? our miku stickers and emotes?!

[lyric zealot]

this looks photoshop in due to the lack of shadows

[lyric zealot]

yup, it's a very secret place in this discord, but it's currently down right now

[native halo]

good imo we need more steven seagal anime stickers

[nova remnant]

Who

[supple raptor]

what we really need are CoffeeGirl stickers

[nova remnant]

Nice perspective

What's her name btw

[supple raptor]

I think that's 1girl, pink hair, high ponytail, yellow eyes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1093687535533830157.gif?size=64&name=SataniaLaughing&quality=lossless

[nova remnant]

Did you just made this wow that was so fasttt

[native halo]

1200 x 480 on a 1.5 checkpoint 🙏

[supple raptor]

i'm just sitting here making images. the new merge won't test itself sadly.

[nova remnant]

hmm yes, also quite stretched

[supple raptor]

2048x512 on sd1.5

[native halo]

1280 x 640

[nova remnant]

think i will try a few images myself too

[nova remnant]

She looks like she just fought in a war and still looking gorgeous

Uhh I wanna name all these characters 😭😭

[supple raptor]

touhou life is a tough life

[nova remnant]

havent thought of trying out huge dimensions but it seems fun

[native halo]

ultrawide 😍

[nova remnant]

the thing is i can't get the image to work on 1girl lol

[native halo]

heres another 1200 x 480 🥸

[nova remnant]

this looks cool

how is your rendering not filling in with 2 characters for the wide space? weights on 1girl?

[native halo]

depends on the model,some models get deformed or output a black border

[nova remnant]

ahh ok, im trying weights to see if i can get 1girl to work on 2048 canvas

it does but with something weird going on

[native halo]

try with (full body:1.4)

[nova remnant]

ok lemme try

[nova remnant]

It looks like smolsus character

[nova remnant]

Wait

[nova remnant]

yea took the prompt

(full body, 1girl, solo:1.5), pink hair, high ponytail, yellow eyes, sci-fi, (detailed, aesthetic:1.1), cinematic, hyper realistic, dynamic angle

[native halo]

this hand looks bad

[nova remnant]

This literally looks like this mobuseka antagonist

[runic vault]

well that does look quite generic

[native halo]

looks like your model cant do it 😔

try with another one

[nova remnant]

ikr

https://twitter.com/girlgenfriend

anigirlgeneration (@girlgenfriend)

Making girls and other characters on my own computer for fun.

I'm not an artist but a computer user.

Followers

5109

Tweets

1265

Twitter

Thoughts on their art?

[native halo]

one of the arts out there

[native halo]

now thats wide 🤣

[nova remnant]

Wow

2048 with hires :p

[native halo]

last one from yae but still 1200 x 480 😔

[nova remnant]

really nice

[nova remnant]

You're annoying but at least your art is good

[nova remnant]

No way 7 girls

[native halo]

speaking of 7 girls

[nova remnant]

more girls the merrier 😮

im trying out with just the word group of girls

[nova remnant]

It's crazy how their face and clothes are very detailed considering they're kinda distant

[nova remnant]

This is a marathon 😭

[gusty palm]

https://i.imgur.com/6aQyGfl.mp4

[nova remnant]

i think that shows 14 girls .. and some more on the far left way in the back lol

One of the best things about your style is the lighting

[lyric zealot]

she's got no name, one of my OC, but don't really bother naming

[nova remnant]

Can I name her please

[lyric zealot]

what do you have in mind?

[nova remnant]

Which type of name do you want like from which culture

[lyric zealot]

I'm gonna be honest, i have no idea

also part of the reason why i didn't wanna name her

[nova remnant]

amazing texture

[gusty palm]

there is an enormous frog in my room

[nova remnant]

and looks terribly sweet

[lyric zealot]

sadly, that wasn't the vibe i was going for

[nova remnant]

what were you trying for?

[gusty palm]

the sound of it jumping around woke me up

[lyric zealot]

contrasting theme of a vibe and happy girl in a dystopian horror train station

[nova remnant]

put the frog in a glass jar

[gusty palm]

I need to find it before it tries to warm up on my cobputer

gotem

[nova remnant]

well im certain there is happy vibe in her looks for the audience

[nova remnant]

coudl be a new pet....

[nova remnant]

How about Mako ,Airi ,ume,momo ,Hina , sana, kasumi,sarasa?

[nova remnant]

her expression in this image looks even more sensuous

[lyric zealot]

time to get weird result due to having too many lora (probably?)

[lyric zealot]

not sure

not sure what i vibe with tbh

[nova remnant]

I can think of other ones if you want

[lyric zealot]

i think i need to think of her personailty first before even thinking about her name

[nova remnant]

Oh yeah that makes sense

[lyric zealot]

we got a troll here

[nova remnant]

wth is the matter with him

had a bad day?

[lyric zealot]

well, time to ping the only two mods online and see if it works

#🍥｜anime message @rose tapir @dull jackal

[nova remnant]

He left the server 😭

well that was odd

and unexpcted

[lyric zealot]

did he?

lmao he did

or maybe even deleted his account

[nova remnant]

looks offline

[native halo]

9 girls with adetailer is a lagfest with all those faces 😵

[nova remnant]

oh yeah that would lag a bit

[nova remnant]

i had my adetailer turned on too but the resolution is so big it ddint' quite focus on every faces

[native halo]

yea think u have to lower detection so it detects them all

[lyric zealot]

masterful trolling

even put in effort to get a pfp

[brittle jay]

What did I come back to

Doom eternal

About what

Oh

How old are you?

"69"

Damn

I don't believe

For some weird reason

[brittle jay]

Ok man wtf is your problem

You know this server is sfw right?

[lyric zealot]

don't even bother

he's seeking attention

[brittle jay]

Nah man I like talking to trollers

[nova remnant]

Omg smolsus that's a smart move

[brittle jay]

I mean everyone is seeking attention at some level

[lyric zealot]

definitely, like what im doing now

[brittle jay]

Perhaps he has a deficiency of it in certain places so he has to get it somewhere else, like in here

I mean I don't wanna judge him too hard

Also sorry for assuming gender

[nova remnant]

Maybe they got bullied

[brittle jay]

I wouldn't go that far

[brittle jay]

Too many girls

[native halo]

that model looks beautiful 😍

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-og-naruto-the-boys-shikamaru-neji-gif-25019767

[lyric zealot]

same vibe lmao

[nova remnant]

using darksushi

[brittle jay]

Wong are you interested in using stable diffusion?

Because of people like you tbh

[nova remnant]

They look like doctors

[brittle jay]

Makes me anxious

[nova remnant]

lol

[brittle jay]

Just looking at the image

[nova remnant]

Do you do ai art too

[brittle jay]

Then why did you join this server specifically?

[brittle jay]

They just said no.

I am pretty sure

[finite herald]

banned dw

[brittle jay]

Omg they got banned lol

[finite herald]

i always lurk

[brittle jay]

W moderator

[lyric zealot]

next time i should just ping fruit first

[brittle jay]

Ye fr

[lyric zealot]

[finite herald]

u kinda should

[brittle jay]

Fruit always be lurking

[finite herald]

[lyric zealot]

well, i always try to just look at who's online

[nova remnant]

Wow her profile is so mesmerizing

[brittle jay]

Not only her profile

Personality as well

Hehe

[lyric zealot]

this is the person that took away the miku-mash tho

[finite herald]

do I look like someone who will do you wrongly?

[lyric zealot]

then where's the miku-mash

[nova remnant]

gonna try kakigori for the wide landscape

[brittle jay]

We need to do a pow of Miku and whoever gets first place gets the Miku role

[lyric zealot]

I'm definitely not winning that

[finite herald]

i'm ashamed of the lack of miku stickers in #1152260531982434434

i expected better..

[brittle jay]

Yeah guys wtf

[finite herald]

fake fans

[brittle jay]

I mean I can't rn cause I am on vacation in japan

[native halo]

dont worry ill be making a set of chibi steven seagal stickers that i will post soon (tm)

[brittle jay]

I have my excuses

[finite herald]

chibi ftw

[finite herald]

[redacted]

[brittle jay]

Eh?

[lyric zealot]

that reminds me to upload mine,

[brittle jay]

Nai model?

[finite herald]

get OUT

[finite herald]

pls smol, your chibis are supreme

[brittle jay]

Of Japan?

[finite herald]

i wanna make physical stickers

of winning submissions

so make some super cute onessss

[brittle jay]

I think that's what nubby does

[lyric zealot]

i do enjoy boiling my chibis

[brittle jay]

Like for work

[finite herald]

nubby pog

[brittle jay]

Or something

[finite herald]

mmmmmmm

[brittle jay]

Man I like these images so much

Also the jar ones

And also the ones where they cabbage

[finite herald]

🫙

[finite herald]

the one on the left hahahaha

[nova remnant]

have an idea..... if i can get to fill that image with smurfs

[finite herald]

reminds me of touhou!

[lyric zealot]

well, i'm really bad at generating stuff like stickers/emotes, so yeah

[nova remnant]

lol

[finite herald]

lies and deceit

[brittle jay]

All the best models are made by touhou players

Projectai members are so far ahead of us

[supple raptor]

would this be allowed?

[lyric zealot]

the only two, that i might be submitting might be these two

[finite herald]

me2

[finite herald]

L-L-L-LEWD

[finite herald]

omg it is like smol shuten from fate

hi nubby btw

[supple raptor]

Ch-ch-ch-chotto matte!

[lyric zealot]

i see the similarities

[brittle jay]

Tis one is best

[supple raptor]

Hi fruit

[finite herald]

i read it in her extra autotuned vibrato voice tysm

[supple raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1136255067184435200.gif?size=64&name=mikudance&quality=lossless

[nova remnant]

i got a good one, coming up

[brittle jay]

Composition is like duplicated. Model doesn't know how to handle that wide of an aspect ratio

[native halo]

it does know thats why it was able to make the other ones i posted

[native halo]

darksushi knows how to handle wide pics too 😍

[nova remnant]

didnt follow the prompt quite right tho lol

dreamshaper just lined up all the characters from left to right the whole width of the canvas

[native halo]

28 chars, imagine that with adetailer 28 faces it would prob take me like 30mins 🤣

[nova remnant]

yeah lucky me heh, cause adetailer didn't detect any of them

[nova remnant]

can i have the metadata for it pls?

[lyric zealot]

here you go metadata

[nova remnant]

thanks

[lyric zealot]

im trying to generate stickers for the event

[nova remnant]

interesting, you have a big chance to win

[lyric zealot]

buddy, respectfully, you should go take a look at the entries

but still glad you said that

okay im at least getting fruit's vote on this at least. (not actual pic cos i want to submit it)

[nova remnant]

lol i would assume it'll be a tough competition, but you have creative talent too

[lyric zealot]

well if you interested, here https://discord.com/channels/1002292111942635562/1152260531982434434

[nova remnant]

why thanks 🙂 i will take a look into the detail

[finite herald]

angy

[finite herald]

PLEAAAAASDE SUBMIT THIS

[lyric zealot]

got to remove the background and stuff first

[finite herald]

[lyric zealot]

I'm conflicted, not sure to submit at expression or chibi

[brittle jay]

I mean like half the images you posted with that wide ar have weird/duplicated composition.

I am pretty sure the model is trained (/the models inside it) with bucketing with mostly images that aren't that wide ar-wise.

If you train a model with let's say only portraits at tall ars and only landscapes at wide ars then when you make a tall image it will struggle with landscapes and be better at faces and might actually force a face into it even if your prompt didn't include anything related to that. The same thing applies here. If a model is less trained in a certain ar then when you make images with that ar it will also be worse and will actually try to use what it learned from the other ars, which will result in duplicated/weird compositions.

@supple raptor I am pretty sure I am wrong about at least one thing here. Please correct if needed.

[native halo]

blud pulled out the wall of text just to say "I am pretty sure I am wrong" 💀

[brittle jay]

Bruh

[nova remnant]

16:9 ar... 1200x672 dimension...

btw is this rule to be strictly followed for actual image detail.... cause i do see large image dimensions tend to lose focus on faces

[supple raptor]

yeah, that's pretty much right.

[native halo]

apparently gotta keep it close to 1megapixel

[supple raptor]

within that range there's some leeway, but if you go much outside of it you'll likely see problems. imo XL is even worse at genning outside of it's trained resolutions than SD1.5 was.

[nova remnant]

i need to try out some of those sample res to see how good or bad images come out

[supple raptor]

better with or without text?

[nova remnant]

hmm ok, since you were trying out 2048x512 on SD 1.5 maybe i could apply that XL chart with sd 1.5?

[brittle jay]

I will never understand what bucketing does

This needs upscaling

Very good

[native halo]

that one has deformed hands so no upscaling 😔

[supple raptor]

not really, those ARs are based on buckets for 1024x1024 base training resolution. 1.5 was originally trained at 512x512 with no bucketing at all (meaning every image was cropped to exactly 512x512). recent 1.5 finetunes have mostly been done at around 768 with bucketing, though 512 with bucketing is also still a thing, there may be some that have used odd base resolutions. I remember hearing of at least one person who trained at 960 with bucketing on 1.5.

[supple raptor]

Just allows the latent blocks to be in different arrangements instead of needing to be arranged in a square.

[brittle jay]

What does that mean I need visual explanation or something

[nova remnant]

ok i think i get the idea of it, which is why it's obvious that extra large images lose focus on content, or what the model resolution is trained on .. but i dunno the term bucketing is..

[supple raptor]

it's a training technique that allows training on non-square images

[nova remnant]

ahh ok

so far ive seen if the expression of a character has to be the focus of an image .. all those large images aren't delivering it

this image here you can see the faces but with loss of detail

has to be a thing about aspect ratio

[brittle jay]

So latent is actually just 64x64 vector or something but bucketing allows for something like 48x64 vectors????

I am confusion

[arctic nova]

https://tenor.com/view/macron-thick-walking-wide-macron-wide-macron-walking-gif-17545021

[nova remnant]

the background is pretty good but the subject / char is losing some detail

[native halo]

yea cuz i didnt use adetailer

too much time

[brittle jay]

Most these images have 2 vanishing points

[nova remnant]

in fact those background are petty amazing

[supple raptor]

close. as one dimension gets smaller, the other will get larger so that it's still the same number of vectors, just arranged differently.

[brittle jay]

Or something like that I don't know the exact term

[native halo]

this one prob the best one of all

[brittle jay]

Wait fr

Now I just need to study UNETs for the third time so I will finally be able to understand that, because each time I tried to, I failed

[nova remnant]

i think in general sense we should be able to generate images of any size and dimensions freely, but we have to go along with technical limitations... for now...

[brittle jay]

What sampler are you using?

[native halo]

euler a

[nova remnant]

I wonder if someone can generate a Pokemon gijinka wallpaper for me
I could probably but I don't think that resolution will work well for 1.5

[brittle jay]

🤮

[supple raptor]

yep, something like this

[nova remnant]

the AI is not trained enough to generate images on loose canvas

also what model are you using

[brittle jay]

Thanks for visual explanation now I understand it much better

[brittle jay]

Loose canvas?

[nova remnant]

any size

[brittle jay]

Oh

I mean

Technically

If you were to use a model that is trained on pixels

You could I think

But then you need a hella beefy gpu

[native halo]

cutemix

[nova remnant]

yeah thats the thing, there are some technical limitations

wow this is 1.5?

[native halo]

yea

[nova remnant]

nice

that means I can try it

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/maam-this-is-a-wendys-gif-22294839

[native halo]

u can,just play with prompts

[nova remnant]

im gonna play around with 1344x768 and 1536x640 to see the output quality i get

[brittle jay]

Just checking but by 1.5 you mean models based on 1.5 right?

[native halo]

ill try with 768 x 1024 cuz these ultrawide take too much time on a 1060

[nova remnant]

yes, not sdxl
which is what I thought just bc the aspect ratio and amount of detail

generate one or two at a time for testing purpose

[brittle jay]

Yeye

Cool

[brittle jay]

Nah man we could do insane details and ars for a pretty long time now (in ai technology time)

[nova remnant]

That's pretty cool
do you need a special extension or
does it just work

maybe I'm just under a rock

[arctic nova]

We all been there

[native halo]

the ones i made had 4 loras thats prob why it had those details

[nova remnant]

ah

still

yeah most my generation is messing around or 512x768 with low expectations

[native halo]

u have to use high res fix ( latent) so it adds more detail , if u just generate it normally it wont have good details

[brittle jay]

Examples

Do png info on last one

[native halo]

heres before and after ( high res fix latent )

[brittle jay]

I like using upscalers instead of latent

Idk why

I just like it better

Tho yeah latent should probably be better

But takes more time

[native halo]

sometimes latent goes crazy and adds bunch of stuff u dont want so i guess it depends on the picture

[brittle jay]

I mean just change denoising strenght

[nova remnant]

i keep it simple

[native halo]

i did with some pics but if i pick a low denoising strenght it goes blocky and if its too high it gets deformed so prob some loras i use are incompatible with latent

[brittle jay]

I like higher denoising strngth

[nova remnant]

setting denoise too high can change images from the intended output i think

[brittle jay]

0.6 my fave

[supple raptor]

when latent looks good, it's the best option. but it's success rate is far lower than using a GAN upscaler with a bit lower denoising.

[brittle jay]

It makes them change more from the before the hires fix

[nova remnant]

*from before the hires fix?

[brittle jay]

But also adds more detail sonwtjkmr

Someyimes

[brittle jay]

Ye

[nova remnant]

ahh ok

[gusty palm]

0: (0+0.5cos(23.14*t/60)+1)

i think i made the zoom wiggle

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/cirno-math-touhou-perfect-math-learning-math-gif-18399995

[brittle jay]

Damn you were ready

[supple raptor]

i got that shit favorited XD

[nova remnant]

im intimidated by math

[gusty palm]

same i mostly copy pasted and changed numbers at random til it seemed to work

i used desmos ill know if it worked in a few minutes

[brittle jay]

Normal math intimidates. Linear algebra not.

[nova remnant]

i kinda lost touch with algebra from lack of practical use on daily life

[native halo]

this one prob the best one i got with latent at 4K

[nova remnant]

looks nice

[supple raptor]

Same. I was good at math in school, then I never used it IRL

old gen

[nova remnant]

oooh the texture came out so nice

[supple raptor]

another from the same time

[native halo]

lightning looks beautiful 😍

[gusty palm]

https://i.imgur.com/Jqi8TED.mp4

almost worked

[nova remnant]

kinda looks you pasted anime character on top of a real garden photo

[native halo]

this one worked for a 2048 x 1536 gen

[gusty palm]

constant zoom might look better

[nova remnant]

most of your image backgrounds are really cool

[native halo]

i use 3 loras for backgrounds thats prob why

[nova remnant]

ahhhhh.. i dont use any LoRA at all

[native halo]

it gets deformed on latent most of the time but when it works it works

[nova remnant]

those must weigh in on the render time

[native halo]

yea it goes up to 15mins

[nova remnant]

wow

[supple raptor]

more oldies (2nd has some edits)

[brittle jay]

What

You are not a real diffuser

[nova remnant]

i kinda like it more to put a model do the entire work

[supple raptor]

this one has a few edits too

[gusty palm]

thats the terminator bubble

[brittle jay]

Bruh

Just merge the lora with the model theb

[nova remnant]

well yea, im ok with downloading some of the merged mods too

[brittle jay]

Oh wait, you don't have to. Because you can just use the lora with any model

Bro

[nova remnant]

im actually waiitng for eface to finish merging and perfecting a XL mod

[brittle jay]

I mean there are already some very very good ones for sdxl

[nova remnant]

naa there isnt

[native halo]

this one has no loras and no neg embeddings ( prob why it got deformed )

[brittle jay]

Even for anime

[nova remnant]

almost all of them are falling short badly

i mean i get more kicks out of SD 1.5 than XL mods atm

[gusty palm]

https://fate-zero-edit.github.io/

[brittle jay]

Didn't try this one but seems good https://civitai.com/models/124189?modelVersionId=164729

[nova remnant]

how are the gallery pics looking plastered?

[nova remnant]

i was using this for a while https://civitai.com/models/118729/reproduction-or-sdxl its ok but there are some lackings with the output you can get

[brittle jay]

Madlads

[native halo]

yea they all look like sd 2.1

[nova remnant]

but other than using Mod i have issues with resources and render time XL needs

[brittle jay]

Man all the recent research papers and projects have hella weird names

[native halo]

by the time XL finishes rendering 1 pic i already done like 10 pics at normal resolution on 1.5

[brittle jay]

Either anime/weeb references or very weird abbreviations like LoRA, LoCon, LoHa, and some other stuff I forgot

[native halo]

lycoris too 🤠

[brittle jay]

Lycoris is anime reference

Not weird abbreviation

I mean technically both

But they all are

[nova remnant]

must be SDXL

[lyric zealot]

don't mind me spamming

[supple raptor]

might be, but there's nothing there that would surprise me from a 1.5 model.

[gloomy lodge]

thanks but no

spam enough bottons and you can make anything

[astral drift]

Could easily by 1.5

[nova remnant]

really? the cushion behind her looks like its XL quality

[gloomy lodge]

its 1.5 im still waiting on models i want to be moved to xl

[nova remnant]

ahh interesting ..

[supple raptor]

text and arguably realism are the only things that XL is really noticably better at. It's significantly worse than 1.5 in a lot of ways for anime.

[gloomy lodge]

yeah im kinda good at this stuff when im not making random crap to keep my mind from making sad books

[nova remnant]

think so too, the base XL model images kinda looked too artificial compared to SD models, but few trained XL models kinda had very rich texture to it

[supple raptor]

might have to fix that hand tomorrow

[gloomy lodge]

found it like this one here people were asking if it was XL too a while back

[dawn jasper]

She is still as fabulous as ever.

[nova remnant]

she's got the face to steal any heart

[lyric zealot]

she certainly stole my heart

[lyric zealot]

I'm done for the time being

[nova remnant]

were you using calicomix for these images?

[fringe drum]

I found a problem with SD
https://reddit.com/r/greentext/s/T93TY34oXt

[gusty palm]

ive hit the point where im not sure which setting im doing wrong https://i.imgur.com/o1HC0B1.mp4

its like not morphing at all

i think i got it but ive said that like 5 gens now

[magic wave]

Trying to make a new alien OC

[nova remnant]

meow

[dawn jasper]

She looks like a ghost.

[nova remnant]

im glad to have camera distancing working out nicely

I'm feeling strong warrior girls today

[magic wave]

Blue alien momm

[nova remnant]

little meow

[lament osprey]

@nova remnant love your work

[nova remnant]

thanks

[nova remnant]

Good morning everyone

Meowning

I got a cool image but I forgot the nsfw negative

@nova remnant no booli ):

[nova remnant]

Big meow!

Bang

[summer shuttle]

mods???

[nova remnant]

I'm scared but I'll do it
I summon @dull jackal

[nova remnant]

can you give me the info of these 2 images ?

[oak spoke]

just redo it with same seed

[nova remnant]

and how do I get the same seed

[oak spoke]

DM me that pic and I'll tell you what seed it was

damn this new model are surprisingly good at gore

too bad can't send them

[nova remnant]

Its there, why would I need to send them to you, its not my image even

[oak spoke]

cuz I'm curious what it was

🤣

don't worry I don't judge

beside if it wasn't your there's a chance there won't be any info on it to begin with

[oak spoke]

and since you're making excuse after specifically say that you forget nsfw negative is even more sus

is it so bad that you need to shift blame onto someone else

👀

[nova remnant]

This looks like smolsus character

[nova remnant]

But the face expression changes her entire personality

[nova remnant]

Wait

I read that wrong

Lmao

You were curious about the picture oh

[oak spoke]

what did you think I meant?

[nova remnant]

Like I thought you wanted me to send vcm07's picture to you

[oak spoke]

lmao

[nova remnant]

I got very confuzzled

[nova remnant]

I was trying to get gens like this but the face mostly

[oak spoke]

meow

[nova remnant]

D:

[oak spoke]

funny those are what I made based on YOUR prompt

[nova remnant]

She ate too much chocolate and strawberries

[oak spoke]

diff neg tho

[nova remnant]

Yeah but I wanted even closer xd

[oak spoke]

she really loved those jam

[astral drift]

Who says she isn't

[nova remnant]

loves them so much forgot to wear clothes

[oak spoke]

it's 2020 so she stayed at home

🤣

[oak spoke]

want ghost? here

[astral drift]

Needs some blood on the tee

[gusty palm]

thats awmazing

[oak spoke]

ty

[nova remnant]

hello there

[oak spoke]

why are they using 2 sided pencil?

[dawn jasper]

Very beautiful pic.

[nova remnant]

one side is an eraser

[oak spoke]

the left one certainly isn't eraser

[nova remnant]

@oak spoke are you using 1.5 or sdxl

[oak spoke]

sdxl

[nova remnant]

o:

[gusty palm]

https://i.imgur.com/e7yoTCX.mp4

loras and ti work im hape

[brittle jay]

I open the open the enfjogntyf

If anyone wanna buy I am selling this card for 200

200 of I am not sure what yet

[nova remnant]

Now you're eating anime

[oak spoke]

200 cents

[brittle jay]

No

I think 200 pics of a man wearing a skirt

Idk why but yes

[oak spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-heughan-kilt-scotland-jamie-fraser-king-of-men-gif-16587863

[brittle jay]

Yes

[nova remnant]

people

[brittle jay]

This is epix

[brittle jay]

And cats

[oak spoke]

you want male cat wearing skirt?

[brittle jay]

No

I mean

What

[oak spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-skirt-long-legs-kick-lollycat-gif-12631093

[brittle jay]

Bro what

[oak spoke]

you asked for it

[nova remnant]

and boots

[brittle jay]

Nah man

[oak spoke]

yes you did

[brittle jay]

Boots and cats and boots and cats and boots and cats

Look at me, professional beatboxer

[ornate echo]

The system is down
The system is down

down down down

[nova remnant]

hello purple man

[ornate echo]

Hello cat with puny graphics card

[gusty palm]

i wish i could ifnd my battle cats account number

[brittle jay]

I thought cat said "people" as in "hello people" or like to take the attention of the people as in "people!". So I said "and cats" as to mean that the audience of his exclamation should include cats as he himself is a cat.

Assuming gender feels bad

But I will just assume I am correct

I fucking hat ethat wmoji

[nova remnant]

[brittle jay]

Why you bully them

[nova remnant]

at least I have uhh big.. hands

[ornate echo]

No bully, name says 4gb

[oak spoke]

btw cat

[brittle jay]

You know what they say about big hands eh

[nova remnant]

yes I can reach lots of keys in the piano

[ornate echo]

They take longer to wash?

[oak spoke]

that they're short?

[ornate echo]

They need a bigger mouse?

[brittle jay]

I would put spoiler on this and say blood warning

[brittle jay]

What no

[brittle jay]

True

[nova remnant]

You don't need a mouse other than G502

best mouse

[brittle jay]

G502 best mouse fr ong

Actually

Literally

[ornate echo]

MX Vertical > others...no issues with wrists due to mousing in an unnatural position

[oak spoke]

that was just.....her makeup

[brittle jay]

Tell that in court

[nova remnant]

skill issue

[brittle jay]

Skill issue

[ornate echo]

get old, talk then

[brittle jay]

Might as well get an ergonomic keyboard haha

[oak spoke]

wait til you actually see my 'abused' prompts

[brittle jay]

Arisu

[oak spoke]

or the actual gore prompt

[brittle jay]

Ayo

[oak spoke]

cat already saw like 2 of them

not the abused one tho

[nova remnant]

I'm old already stop, want me to turn to dust ?

[oak spoke]

I always had trouble making black eyes

[ornate echo]

Don't let your dreams be dreams.

[brittle jay]

Guys and girls and cats and boots and others

Listen

https://youtube.com/@ShibainuRanmaru?si=AtJMTq8_UPZ0_HCY

This channel

Is amazing

I watch this for a year already

[nova remnant]

does sdxl do weapons well

[oak spoke]

better than 1.5 generally

[astral drift]

I have like 400 pics of various characters holding guns, it's an obsession

[nova remnant]

I might get a 6750

They are cheap (Kinda of)

[nova remnant]

wait I meant sharp weapons

swords spears daggers....

[oak spoke]

bullets are sharp

[nova remnant]

true

I should stop using swords in games and just pull out a gun

[brittle jay]

Indeed. Having dreams is amount to suffering. And also as Schopenhauer said:

What disturbs and depresses young people is the hunt for happiness on the firm assumption that it must be met with in life. From this arises constantly deluded hope and so also dissatisfaction. Deceptive images of a vague happiness hover before us in our dreams, and we search in vain for their original. Much would have been gained if, through timely advice and instruction, young people could have had eradicated from their minds the erroneous notion that the world has a great deal to offer them.

[gusty palm]

https://i.imgur.com/BiyBe0S.mp4

[oak spoke]

huh didn't remember making this

[brittle jay]

Literally me when

[oak spoke]

[brittle jay]

Wtf

Damn

Mysterious image

[oak spoke]

god of butterfly have snuck into my images

[brittle jay]

It would be better if there were nothing. Since there is more pain than pleasure on earth, every satisfaction is only transitory, creating new desires and new distresses, and the agony of the devoured animal is always far greater than the pleasure of the devourer

[brittle jay]

Me and the boys at 3am be like: "Human life must be some kind of mistake. The truth of this will be sufficiently obvious if we only remember that man is a compound of needs and necessities hard to satisfy; and that even when they are satisfied, all he obtains is a state of painlessness, where nothing remains to him but abandonment to boredom. This is direct proof that existence has no
real value in itself; for what is boredom but the feeling of the emptiness of life? If life—the craving for which is the very essence of our being—were possessed of any positive intrinsic value, there would be no such thing as boredom at all: mere existence would satisfy us in itself, and we should want for nothing."

Sorry for spamming pessimistic philosophy btw. But Schopenhauer is just such an edgy boy.

[gusty palm]

stop thinking jordan peterson is deep

[brittle jay]

Nah bro

Jordan Peterson is baby bitch boy, not to be mean

[gusty palm]

nah thats fair

[nova remnant]

Just be happy

Its easy

[nova remnant]

burns your house

[brittle jay]

Diogenes = gigachad, sigma grindset

Socrates = probably slept with little boys

Nietzsche = literally mentally insane. Also horse moment funny.

Schopenhauer = edgy kid who thinks he hella smarter than everyone else but is actually just annoying. Tho has some good points.

Albert Camus = gigachad 2.0, actually an alpha male, absolute player. I have crush on him fr ong, and I'm not even gay.

[gusty palm]

i prefer c.ai

[oak spoke]

reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dGJi0Rt4xY

[oak spoke]

RGB hair

[nova remnant]

now do one letter for every color

[oak spoke]

you can do it I'm about to eat

[nova remnant]

give food im hungry

(Not tomato pls )

[brittle jay]

Omg eow

Insane

Oh damn already

Didn't even need to ping

@nova remnant https://youtube.com/shorts/8DErH4SoM_w?si=v_PYkeVzpZt4Tddq

[bitter latch]

suppose to be ready for school NOT for a hike in the mountains. sheesh

[gusty palm]

watching preying mantis eat is terrifying

[bitter latch]

no thanks

[brittle jay]

Did you try using adetailer?

[brittle jay]

True and real

[nova remnant]

willingly clicking on shorts

[brittle jay]

This image is so cool

[brittle jay]

I mean it's cats

What can I say

I see cat I click

[nova remnant]

I blocked shorts with adblock

I watched it in incognito tho, cute cat

[brittle jay]

Actually smart move

Blocking shorts

[nova remnant]

she trippin

(Literally)

[brittle jay]

The missing G is me

[dawn jasper]

How is she this fabulous?

[gusty palm]

https://huggingface.co/dallinmackay/JWST-Deep-Space-diffusion

this is awesome

trained on jwst images

i wonder if u could generate like, solar systems in the shape of boobs or something

[gusty palm]

https://cyberes.github.io/stable-diffusion-textual-inversion-models/

cool list of TI

[bitter latch]

blinks, the actor mark harmon of ncis just send me an invite to follow his page.. what?

ummm (smells) hmm fish.. fishy

meh his dogs the reason abby left

anyhow back to art

[dry cobalt]

Can't tell if Mumford style knows detective pikachu, but it's certainly trying.

[dawn jasper]

This Haru Okumura there?

[bitter latch]

no, Shirley Temple

[gusty palm]

https://i.imgur.com/qffYMVI.mp4

[bitter latch]

used a lora this time

[gusty palm]

@supple raptor https://github.com/DominikDoom/a1111-sd-webui-tagcomplete/issues/241
i submitted issue and i think it should be safe to update now

[bitter latch]

larger one for those th at want it :

[dry cobalt]

🤔 she needs wings

[gusty palm]

not a single one of my opensea artworks sold

[brittle jay]

Just came to say goodnight