🏞｜general-with-images

[smoky oak]

Oh my God, they let you disable it

[oak osprey]

"white square on white background" horror show

it's like it needs to average out at mediocrity

can't have pure white or pure black, no no

[smoky oak]

An yes, I love when I switch to a different model and suddenly "wild Jaguar" means "sexualized and perverted naked girls in a forest"

[oak osprey]

oh i love this, an asian detective getting caught manipulating evidence in the evidence room

(MJ)

tiger from earlier ckpt that knew what brightness and contrast means

[sterile vapor]

he looks like he does know what brightness and contrast mean

perfectly positioned face to be flat

[smoky oak]

Oh I remember

Firefox is stupid and annoying in a very different way

Right, when you copy a seed, it copies

" 4120631616, "

[cyan snow]

you betrayed us

[smoky oak]

Space before. The comma, and the space after

[oak osprey]

naw just scrolling through the mj dataset

this is SD 2.1 tho

[cyan snow]

this is how my model does that

[oak osprey]

some of the MJ images are like "bruh actually what the f"

that's their beta upscaler

[smoky oak]

If chrome let you disable their stupid pull to refresh, and stopped reloading webpages you leave for 5 seconds, I would have no reason not to use it

[cyan snow]

imagine not using operaGX

[oak osprey]

SDXL looks like this at the moment, kinda

[smoky oak]

I'm not gonna use opera GX on my phone lmao

[oak osprey]

he only asked you to imagine it

[cyan snow]

oh, mobile? then you're kinda fucked

[sterile vapor]

also; what's your people's favourite sampler

[cyan snow]

DPM++ 2m Karras

[oak osprey]

i noticed something about that img

[cyan snow]

overall best with detailing and never disappoints, also one of the fastest

[sterile vapor]

thanksies

[oak osprey]

DDIM

produces great images in just 15 steps

[sterile vapor]

from what I tried so far, ancestrals worked best for me so far, but I'll have a look

I'm okay with more steps and slower gen

if it means more reliable quality

[oak osprey]

ancestrals mean anything but reliable

[smoky oak]

Messing around again with animal realism

[oak osprey]

lil toy tiger compared to mine 😄

[cyan snow]

DDIM is good for img2img, but pretty bad for txt2img, i usually use txt2img, so for me DPM++ 2M Karras is the best

[oak osprey]

whatever works for you. i find the Karras stuff impairs a model that is otherwise properly functioning on more simple schedulers

[smoky oak]

DDIM is what I always use, for all models, for everything. I have run hundreds to comparisons, and DDIM wins in almost every category

[cyan snow]

i made a comparison once, the best ones are Euler_a and DPM++ 2M Karras. i usually switch between these two

[smoky oak]

It's the fastest, it needs the least amount of steps to look good, and it also does really good with resisting over fitting LoRA's

[oak osprey]

okay, well, i'm constantly making comparisons and DDIM receives improvements before other schedulers due to how simple its implementation is. highly recommended to just stick with that. Karras stuff is poorly maintained.

most of the samplers should just be removed from sd-webui as they do not receive fixes or were a bad idea to begin with, eg. heun

[smoky oak]

Yup

[cyan snow]

you use 2.1, i was talking about 1.5 models, I rarely use 2.1 models, next time i'l use a new architecture model will probably be SDXL

[smoky oak]

DDIM will continue to be my go to, only needs 15 samples to look great

[smoky oak]

What he said applies for 1.5 as well

[oak osprey]

Sytan is a 1.5 stan and they also support the use of DDIM. for what it's worth, DDIM didn't work with 2.1 very well until a month or so ago.

[cyan snow]

um, i don't know what to say, i really like DPM++ 2M Karras the best -_-

[smoky oak]

I mean, you can like whatever you want, feel free to

[oak osprey]

it's about your prompts too, if you're doing very good and long prompts that will look good on pretty much any sampler, maybe you do just fine with Karras. but simpler prompts i found work reliably on DDIM or DDPMScheduler, but DDIM is the only one that's also in sd-webui.

[smoky oak]

But lots of tests across lots of people and models have shown for pseudo and I that DDIM is faster, needs less steps, and adjusts to new information more reliably

[oak osprey]

yep and i hated DDIM until it received SNR fixes (and is currently the only scheduler that has received them)

[cyan snow]

huh, i always write a paragraph of prompts, so i guess that checks out.

[oak osprey]

👍🏽 not trying to make you doubt your decisions

i used karras for a while because it was the best option up until the DDIM fixes came along

but i was using them on the DPM Multistep Solver 2M which isn't in sd-webui either

[cyan snow]

know what? il make an xyz right now, talking the talk is not like walking the walk

[oak osprey]

that's the spirit

[smoky oak]

All of my images are 15 steps

[oak osprey]

LMAO SDXL's random parameter testing looks like some of the shit i make

https://giphy.com/gifs/deal-with-it-sunglasses-miami-vice-1jnyRP4DorCh2

[oak osprey]

@cyan snow challenge you to ada lovelace, 1982, neon club dance scene at night, high contrast rave molly mdma ecstasy tongue out

[smoky oak]

I like that last one a lot

D-DRUGS!?

[oak osprey]

yep and she's dead now, which we can safely assume is the drugs fault

[cyan snow]

hmmmmmm

[oak osprey]

before training on widescreen images it's basically impossible for me to just get a single subject

and one of the subjects looks half-assed and deranged

oooh that might be the best one so far

[limpid lichen]

kinda looks like shelley duvall

https://tenor.com/view/resplandor-shining-terror-movie-jack-nicholson-gif-18358257

[oak osprey]

ah maybe her sister 😛

[cyan snow]

thoughts?

[oak osprey]

euler a sucks lolol

ddim has one image that entirely encapsulates the galaxy in the jar

the karras almost gets there but not quite

try other seeds

[cyan snow]

il change it to just DPM++ 2m Karras vs DDIM

[oak osprey]

good idea

[cyan snow]

they are VERY similar

but both are great samplers

[oak osprey]

personally i'd use DDIM still because it's simpler and works with newer training techniques. Karras will not work with zero scale SNR models

[cyan snow]

i think DPM++ 2M Karras has better detailing tho

maybe in the future the DDIM will be better, but for now i think i stand by what i said earlier, but yeah, DDIM is great as well

[oak osprey]

the version of DDIM you have there is likely the old one

[cyan snow]

i'm on the dev branch with auto update on, unlikely

[oak osprey]

automatic1111 doesn't fix that shit

[smoky oak]

I would also use DDIM, as it's considerably faster, and usually needs less samples to look as good

[cyan snow]

it's the same speed as the other one in my comparison

[smoky oak]

Weird, what are you generating on? Cause karras is usually way slower

[oak osprey]

it's not slower here either

[cyan snow]

you mean the DPM (not karras) ones

[smoky oak]

Oh wait, I am used to SDE Karras

[oak osprey]

i think that's ancient

[cyan snow]

they are not as good DPM++ 2M Karras on every aspect

[smoky oak]

For me, Karras always destroys contrast and stuff

Left DDIM, right Karras

[shut sinew]

The colors on the right look kinda weird

Personal preference probably

[smoky oak]

They look more crunchy and over processed

That's what I come to expect in general from karras

[shut sinew]

But the details are way better

Something in between would be nice

[cyan snow]

DPM++ 2M karras

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak those billionaires that got stuck in the atlantic ocean in the submersible are reportedly being subjected to Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" as the computer onboard resets itself every few minutes on a loop

[smoky oak]

That's what I used

[cyan snow]

weird

for me it's not like that

[oak osprey]

try generating something that exists in the real world lmao

[cyan snow]

give me a prompt, and i'l generate

[oak osprey]

try jack black riding a bear in the swiss alps and karras mangles his sweet little face

[shut sinew]

use ADetailer

[cyan snow]

Awhat?

[oak osprey]

no one understands your strange alien technology Boto

😛

[cyan snow]

like a lora?

[shut sinew]

https://github.com/Bing-su/adetailer

[oak osprey]

@shut sinew are you actually a Markov chain bot like TwoDukes told me once?

[shut sinew]

Its an addon that pretty much auto detects the face or any part you want and rerenders it

[shut sinew]

I am whatever you want me to be

[oak osprey]

that's how CodeFormer and GPFGAN work too

[shut sinew]

Yeah but the face fix sucks

This does a really good job

[oak osprey]

true, it can correct only minor errors eg. eyes

[shut sinew]

Feel free to try it and let me know

you get an extra prompt for the area you select

Its great

[oak osprey]

it's going to take me an eternity because i reimplement everything on my own, in a discord bot

so if that's a library i can make use of, that's a lot quicker

if it's an A1111 extension, ugh

[cyan snow]

so, it's img2img?

[shut sinew]

Thats how it looks

[oak osprey]

RealESRGAN gives us a library

[shut sinew]

Yes and no

[smoky oak]

Ok, I see now why the colors are so messed up with DPM++ blah blah

It's cause it needs more steps

[oak osprey]

doesn't that just smear it

[cyan snow]

i use 50 step usually, that might explain it

[oak osprey]

dood -_-

ddim converges long before that

if you're testing both at 50 you're gimping it

[smoky oak]

Oh God 50? Lmfao

I use 15!

[shut sinew]

[shut sinew]

I still like the DDIM look more

[oak osprey]

i just fought with a ziplock bag to get it open for 15 minutes

[cyan snow]

i have STONK gpu, it doesn't matter for me, usually takes a few secs

[oak osprey]

yeah, Sytan is obsessive about getting over 69 it/sec 😛

[cyan snow]

both fucked up in here

[shut sinew]

the motorcycle

[smoky oak]

At 20!$#?0)3#, DPM looks more properly toned

Um

Hmm...

[shut sinew]

[smoky oak]

I am not sure what happened there lmfao

[oak osprey]

keyboard streoke

did you try to type Swift style on a PC kbd?

[cyan snow]

`1234567890-=asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./

[smoky oak]

No, I type without looking on my phone, and it appears as though I hit the menu to take me into character kmao

[shut sinew]

No secret codes

[oak osprey]

an enigma

[smoky oak]

So I was looking away and typed that, but I guess I misclicked into that menu lol

[oak osprey]

to the code cracking-mobile

[cyan snow]

`1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./

[smoky oak]

Yeah, so I'll stick with DDIM cause it's better at 15 steps

[cyan snow]

why does that matter to you, what GPU do you use

[oak osprey]

that was my takeaway too

well, for me i run a discord bot and image gens queue up pretty deep sometimes

[smoky oak]

3080, but I prefer to iterate way more images and find the one I like

I do like 16 images at a time, pick the one I like, then upscale from there

[oak osprey]

i can make higher res images that look nice in fewer steps while using the same time to make the image that it took to make a lower res image with DPM

[smoky oak]

Just wasted electricity for basically the same output

[cyan snow]

it/s?

[shut sinew]

Thats my style but with a 4090

[oak osprey]

i do that too, but with an A100 80G

[cyan snow]

as you do

[smoky oak]

For a single image, about 17it/s

But I usually do elongated gens, so about 9it/s

[oak osprey]

elon?

[cyan snow]

for me it's 26 it/s

[oak osprey]

are her eyes open or closed?

[cyan snow]

EW bro what happened

[oak osprey]

idk

[sterile vapor]

she doesn't know, that is why she is screaming

[smoky oak]

Good for you I guess, but it's still just a waste of electricity for the same image, and it still takes longer

[shut sinew]

[oak osprey]

RNGesus

[cyan snow]

that is about 1 second bro

[smoky oak]

It's still a waste lmao

A waste is a waste, no matter how small

[oak osprey]

ok i'll probably catch flak for this buuuut worrying about a few centiseconds of electricity use when flying across the country 😛

[cyan snow]

yeah, electricity isn't a problem, do you know how much U-238 there is on this planet?

ENOUGH

[oak osprey]

i use solar and i don't care at all if it takes 3 or 15 seconds to gen

[smoky oak]

Yeah, the power isn't really that big of a deal, but waste of any capacity is waste

¯_(ツ)_/¯

You could do 3x 15 steps images of the same quality in the time it takes to do just 1 50 step image... Of the same quality

[oak osprey]

well in that perspective your GPU is being underutilised if you aren't using the heaviest scheduler

[cyan snow]

the main problem with solar is that it's unreliable, the sun shines in a single place half of the time, that means you need batteries

[oak osprey]

bro i live in the pacific northwest, it's been rainy for 4-5 days

tell me more myths and lies please

[cyan snow]

wait, then how am i wrong?

[smoky oak]

If it's actively running your meter back, then you don't need batteries

[oak osprey]

i have a surplus of 400-500W all day today

overall i'm getting about 900W-1kW of power and i have a TINY roof, just 10 foot by 8 foot, which is as full of modules as it can be

[cyan snow]

all a solar panel does is convert photons to moving electrons, if there is no sun, the solar pannel does nothing

[oak osprey]

and yes, You Need Batteries. so what? you are going to probably complain about the mining that's done for them. oh well. uranium is mined up and purified too

[smoky oak]

I always prioritize being faster. Especially when there is no benefit to wasting more time

[oak osprey]

i have 10kWh of power storage and it weighs just 160lbs

[smoky oak]

Hell, you don't even need power storage if you are just in it for the money savings

[oak osprey]

the pipe dream of nuclear power is so that no one has to change their consumption habits

[smoky oak]

It will run your meter backwards at all times when power is generated, and then you just start running it forwards at night

[oak osprey]

but reducing consumption is a good thing regardless of how much power we have available.

[cyan snow]

yeah, that's why the most efficient way to generate power is to use the core of this planet

[oak osprey]

i've seen that movie, man

sometimes the core stops spinning

[smoky oak]

Yup

[oak osprey]

it reverses direction

all the people who are in the infrastructure down there = dead

[cyan snow]

it's called a geothermic power plant, it exists

[oak osprey]

that's... not the core

[smoky oak]

Yeah lmao

[oak osprey]

that's barely even the mantle

[smoky oak]

That's literally just heat lol

[oak osprey]

it's also really only something you can do with a water source too

like nuclear or solar concentration towers (heliostats)

[cyan snow]

it uses the heat of the planet, to make electricity

[smoky oak]

Yeah, that's not specifically the core

[oak osprey]

cellars use the cold nature of the planet to keep things cold.

[smoky oak]

This is a weird argument lmao

ANYWAYS I stick with 15 its on my images cause there are 0 benefits, and many drawbacks to going higher

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[oak osprey]

you can't tell me AI enthusiasts aren't passionate people tho

[smoky oak]

True lol

[oak osprey]

i bet you anyone here will argue about how to cook pasta

[smoky oak]

I want my hot boys, and I want them NOW

[oak osprey]

i hear that you should add olive oil to the noodles

also, chili never has beans in it according to the Texas Chili Commission

that's "Ohio Style"

i strongly disagree with the TCC on that one

[cyan snow]

but yeah one m^3 of U-238 can make enough power to keep humanity with enough power for probably a few months

[limpid lichen]

they shut down the main street of my city downtown for 6 nights to shoot a 3-4 second clip in that movie

my uncle never shuts up about it

[cyan snow]

are we considered AI enthusiasts?

[oak osprey]

[limpid lichen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAu2e0VbvY4 this scene. a bunch of it is downtown victoria and they composited it into london

[smoky oak]

Oh, I love Victoria :>

We were there for a day on our cruise, and I would love to go back

[cyan snow]

probably even YEARS, basically if we be smart about electricity, we basically have an infinite amount

[smoky oak]

And Elon musk will save us all lol

[cyan snow]

you know how Uranium is formed? in heckin' supernovas, so yeah, we have electricity alright

[smoky oak]

[cyan snow]

anyways, here is master cheif

[oak osprey]

nuclear needs water

[oak osprey]

uranium fires are cool and all but i don't like the idea of them actually happening lmao

that shit's terrifying

[cyan snow]

that's true, but it's a closed cycle. it doesn't need replenishment

[oak osprey]

and i'm not anti nuclear, please don't argue for it at me

[oak osprey]

haha our plants here have a heat exchanger that uses lake water to cool it

the same in finland iirc where they've observed increased jellyfish populations near their reactors. might be somewhere else tho

[cyan snow]

that's stupid

[oak osprey]

bro it's just how it's done

they're not going to compromise on certain key points because it's more lucrative for their wallets

do nuclear reactors even make money?

[cyan snow]

they could literally save SO MUCH water if they weren't so dumb

[oak osprey]

that stuff is hella expensive to do right

ah, no, it's not financially viable and often survives by government support

[cyan snow]

actually not, after the architecture is made, and you know what you're doing, it's basically infinite energy

[oak osprey]

lmao

https://giphy.com/gifs/season-9-the-simpsons-9x17-xT5LMNUn7ku9j9sOaY

couldn't read that text before i used the gif

look, i'm glad you nor i have any say in this because neither of us know what we're talking about

you think it's infinite energy and i have no idea how to fix core issues i know about, so, that's just how that is lol

people paid a lot more than you or i say "this shit is hard" and i believe them

[cyan snow]

I said it's almost infinite, and only when done right. like, certain states have WAY lower power cost because of this reason. they know what they're doing

a good example of idiots using nuclear energy is what happened in Chernobyl, they cooled it with local running water, and well, one day there was an outage and shit happened

[oak osprey]

oh yes, idiots aren't a thing now

that's just a them problem

[true badge]

Hi guys. I try to install SD but get following error:

File "C:\Users\rp89\stable-diffusion-webui\repositories\CodeFormer\basicsr__init.py", line 11, in <module>
from .version import gitsha, version__
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'basicsr.version'

Does anyone have experience with this and can help me with the problem? Unfortunately I am not experienced.

[cyan snow]

look, if they where smart about it nothing bad would've happened, but no, those fucks thought they can cool a nuclear plant using local running water

[oak osprey]

look, the solar panels i have will last me 30 years and they fulfill my needs. things become more efficient over time and my power becomes more flexible as a result. i don't discharge my batteries deeper than 15%, they'll also last me about 5-10 years, and i will simply end up discharging them deeper and deeper til they suddenly don't work (but probably one of them will do that first, and then the other will shortly after)

people could do this today, we don't need complicated nuclear reactors that no one understands, just simple photovoltaic systems. we don't need massive centralised power grids. you've seen the problems when there's outages. the one in 2003 in the northeast, the ones throughout California right now because of their massive solar farms with experimental equipment

[cyan snow]

#🤝｜tech-support

[true badge]

tryed, no answer

[cyan snow]

alright, this will turn into #🤝｜tech-support temporarily

[oak osprey]

when the Hz of the grid deviates too far it literally damages equipment physically and can make it very difficult to restart the grid. in fact, running a power grid is so difficult that to me it elevates into a form of art, because there is a delicate balance to maintain between the load placed on the grid, and the power being fed into it

[cyan snow]

GPU?

[true badge]

GTX 1060 6gigs

[oak osprey]

looks like their install is missing some file.

[cyan snow]

I hate to break it to you, but that won't generate high quality images. but it should be able to atleast run it.

[oak osprey]

what files do you see inside the basicsr folder?

[oak osprey]

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/issues/1598

[true badge]

no problem, its just to tet and then get petter GPU 😉

[oak osprey]

here is a workaround for you, @true badge

[true badge]

already tryed, but nothing of that helped

[cyan snow]

yeah, that should work, i also run into stupid errors like this when i started with python

[oak osprey]

clearly you didn't try it because that file isn't in there in your screenshot

[true badge]

one second please

[oak osprey]

take your time

[true badge]

you mean this

[oak osprey]

yes

@smoky oak MJ's best result for photo i can find in the data i have, but also remember i love that yucky grain

tis Ada Lovelace apparently

[cyan snow]

y'all like Halo?

[oak osprey]

kinda did her dirty and she looks like a clown 😦

[smoky oak]

It looks just fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[true badge]

Now I am facing following arror 🙂

[oak osprey]

seems like your install is broken though. i recommend redoing it

[true badge]

thank you very much will try

[oak osprey]

state of the art technology

the cornhole edition of the ram 6900 dually comes in 4 different flavours

the F350 comes with extra spare tires that are always ready to go because they're all installed on the rear driver side

[true badge]

now it works, thanks a lot 🙂

[oak osprey]

yay

now show us what you got

@true badge can you try making pictures of house parties?

[true badge]

😄

[oak osprey]

try prompt, photo from a 1998 house party retro themed, ethnographic photography nikon d5200 polaroid style

[true badge]

funny 😄

[oak osprey]

use negative prompt:

(deep fried) watermark, cropped, out-of-frame, low quality, low res, poorly drawn, bad anatomy, wrong anatomy, extra limb, missing limb, floating limbs, (mutated hands and fingers:1.4), disconnected limbs, mutation, mutated, ugly, disgusting, blurry, amputation

[true badge]

i will try to set QR Codes in a picture, later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1rYTnupZk4

[cyan snow]

yo, what's up with people turning qr codes into other stuff

usually those trends are cool, but i don't get this

[gleaming badger]

i cant do any dreaming. can someone help?

[sterile temple]

You need to fill out the template it displays after you type the dream command

[sterile temple]

☝️

[limpid lichen]

qr codes are really useful but hard to draw people's attention to them. They're not enticing the same way nobody cares about a barcode. This makes them really neat.

Also, it takes a bit of finesse so if you can do it it's a flex

[supple helm]

Bro really tried to slip it the center of there prompt

[cyan snow]

Well, I guess I'll be making AI barcodes tomorrow lol

[cyan snow]

This guy never heard of running the AI locally? You can literally make everything when running locally

It doesn't even need access to the internet, that's how dense diffusion models are

[sterile temple]

some people can't afford a decent computer to run SD on

[supple helm]

Just out of curosity how would i run it locally?
do i need to download a program or something?

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak aspect bucketing is hard to implement in a fucking YOLO way ahahahaha

you make better choices in designing it early on and it's easier but damn

many sharp edges

[sterile temple]

there are a few different ways to run locally. Automatic1111 is the most popular due to the features and number of extensions. But there is also ComfyUI, Easy Diffusion, and others

[supple helm]

Thanks ill check those out

[cyan snow]

Yeah, A1111 is by far the best interface, it's the most customizable, and has the most features by FAR

But the creator has a dirty past. I personally don't care at all, but I know many people do

[wild sorrel]

There's issue with their readability tho...like my phone rarely picks them up

[cyan snow]

Challenge accepted

[wild sorrel]

even ones in the article -
https://stable-diffusion-art.com/qr-code/

I had to sit there for like 5 mins to make my phone read 3 pictures (others didn't work at all)

[sterile temple]

can it read this?

[wild sorrel]

my phone can't

[wild sorrel]

maybe if I'll give it more time or something, but nah, noone's gonna do that in a real world, standing with phone staring at the picture hoping it would work

[sterile temple]

my phone can read it instantly

[wild sorrel]

hm, idk

[limpid lichen]

reads

instant

[wild sorrel]

might depend on camera \ lighting maybe then

my android thing is pretty old + dim light in the room

[limpid lichen]

shittiest dim room and looking at an lcd backlit screen

[wild sorrel]

but it picks up normal QR codes instantly

[limpid lichen]

trendmicro free qr scanner is the best but the google search one built in gets it too

could be the processor or software. i think the trendmicro one is meant to be a halo product. get their brand some trust

[wild sorrel]

yea, but most people just use default scanning tool thing on their phones I believe

[sterile temple]

this one is a bit slower to read, takes a couple of seconds

[wild sorrel]

oh this one actually worked instantly lol

[limpid lichen]

hi 🙂

[wild sorrel]

probably cause it has better contrast, hm

[limpid lichen]

i'm certain that next os updates will adjust to pic more of these creative codes details

[sterile temple]

that one was funny, she just suddenly appeared in front of the barcode while doing an img2img

[limpid lichen]

qr codes will explode into new territories

[wild sorrel]

idk man, there are lots of people with really old phones like me

there's no reason for me to upgrade until it's dead

QR codes needs to be accessable for everyone, quick and easy to scan

[sterile temple]

my company has been warning against scanning qr codes in public as they could link to sus websites

[limpid lichen]

yeah i warn people of that too. trendmicro actually has a good scanner for that

its also fast and no ads

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak i fixed the contrast and darkness

i wonder if i have to alternate noise schedule sometimes to keep it from getting too dark

we shall see

who's coming to the AI Cryptoid party?

your invitation is in the mail

[true badge]

do you guys use prompt generators or any other hekping tools for prompt?

[sterile temple]

I use dynamic prompts with wildcard files. And I used chatgpt to help with those wildcard files

[dense tapir]

I stopped doing that as it seemed to not be random enough so I just go to lexica

No matter how many I added the same ones kept popping up.

[sterile temple]

True it does seem to pick some more than others

E.g the file with about 100 celebrities in it, I got 1 person 4 times in 20 images

[dense tapir]

I have a file with over 600 entries and the same batch comes up far more than others so I moved them to a different spot in the file YET they still come up far more than any others.

I ticketed it but nothing ever came of it.

[languid pagoda]

hmm this stylized 3d model is interesting

also man stable is so fast now on my new pc

night and day

[sterile temple]

What did you get? I'm thinking about getting a new desktop PC for running SD

I just got permission from the SO, but thought I'd wait to see how much memory SDXL needs to run before getting anything

[languid pagoda]

Upscaling plus photoshop makes it even crisper :)

[languid pagoda]

Oh I am running a 3060 12gb(the extra vram is nice, nvidia keeps insisting on releasing doa cards with only 8gb, i could get 8gb a decade ago smh) So i made sure to go for a affordable option with more vram
32gb ram ddr4 3200
amd 5600
One of those fancy new ssd's that go on your motherboard

[sterile temple]

Nice, my laptop has the laptop version of the 3060 with 6gb of vram

[languid pagoda]

oh yeah the 3060 also has a normal 8gb version, lots of options lol

I upgraded from a 1070 8gb

but my ram, ssd and cpu in particular were big jumps

[sterile temple]

I was looking at the 4070 12gb, I think that's the new 3060, since the 4060 seems to have less thingymajigs than then 3060

[languid pagoda]

oh yeah the 4060 is horrible

[shut sinew]

The 4070 is a bad joke too, I wouldn't advise buying it

[languid pagoda]

tbh the 4000 series in general is disappointing

[shut sinew]

If the 4090 wasn't that expensive

[languid pagoda]

part of why I went 3060 it's a solid card for the price if you go 12gb and leaves me options for upgrading incase nvidia stops releasing meme cards

yeah the 4090 is good but so expensive

[sterile temple]

4080 is expensive too

[languid pagoda]

the prices in general are 🗿 the 3000 series had some value and then nvidia was like ohhh ai, let's JACK THOSE PRICES BACK UP BAYBE

[sterile temple]

I've seen PCs with a 4070 12gb for the same price as the 4080

[languid pagoda]

tbh i'm not sure how good the 4080 is, i know the 4090 is good but insanely high end, the 4060 is a literal joke, the 4070 meh at best

like the price to performance ratio just isn't here

Amd atleast gives out some damn vram lol, but then you miss out on nvidia stability for creative applications, sometimes amd has issues and other things

[shut sinew]

Back then I had to buy a 3050 cause money was tight and gpu prices were horrendous, did me alright for 1080p gaming but I wanna upgrade now. Got a 4090 at work and I really want one for home too

[languid pagoda]

lol i bet

I'm liking the 3060 I can do 4k nicely now

Now I just have to sell my old pc for a good price to justify buying a new pc with goverment money I got

💀

[shut sinew]

I wanna get the 4090 also because I'll be set for a few years then I hope

[sterile temple]

The problem with 6gb of memory is I can't play around with training anything

[languid pagoda]

shit yeah you'll be set for quite a while with a 4090

oh yeah

vram is a big one

[shut sinew]

That's the plan

[languid pagoda]

this is why I went 3060 12gb

8gb is literal doa on every front

I could get 8gb a decade ago

[shut sinew]

But big gpu and big screen, boom 3k bucks gone

[languid pagoda]

games are going to increase vram costs too, never mind ai

yeahhh

I'd love to get a better screen one day

[shut sinew]

For my self built pc where I reused to 3050 I didn't even pay 2k

[languid pagoda]

but it's a miracle I was able to get a new pc to begin with lol

I paid like 950 for this one I think

if I can sell my old pc for atleast 500 euros it's basically the cost of a new console

[sterile temple]

I can afford to get a 4090, but it's like a lot of money ya know. Feels like irresponsible lol

[shut sinew]

my pc

[languid pagoda]

I feel that, but you gotta look at what you're getting for your money too

i'm not saying get a 4090, just look at the value

[languid pagoda]

Love that

clean

[shut sinew]

100% agree, that's why I'm still hesitating

[sterile temple]

I held off for years before finally buying a OLED tv, and that's about the same price as a 4090 😂 my plasma tv was about 12 years old

[dense tapir]

Too much cash for me when I am saving we edge closer to a 5090 that is up to 2.7x faster for 1.5 times the price of a 4090.

[languid pagoda]

I went 0 rgb and functionality to save costs and because I don't really look at it anyway. I'm amazed I built my first pc and it.. works

the real question is whether novideo will make the 5000 series just as bad for mid-low range

this my basic pc btw lol

[sterile temple]

When would the 5000 series come out? 2 years?

[shut sinew]

My pc sits eye height with me so I love some shiny stuff

[dense tapir]

I sure hope not but I ran into a training situation last night where 16gb was not enough I had to throw on the checkpointing. 24GB is a batch size of 2 or it was 3 I forget.

[languid pagoda]

😓

I'm hoping I can train ok with 12 lol

I know it's about on the edge

I haven't tried any of the fancy stuff yet, it's been a while. Going to look into controlnet because it's great, and also training things

[dense tapir]

I am stuck as 24gb is my min now and it seems for consumers that is all we get AND very possibly less due to their new neural compression junk.

[languid pagoda]

nvidia hoarding the vram

[dense tapir]

for the big boy hoppers, and A100 yes

[languid pagoda]

I won't be suprised if the 5070 will only have 12gb vram

💀

[dense tapir]

GDDR6 is cheap now so 24gb is about 100-120 USD added on to a card.

in bulk I can only imagine

[languid pagoda]

yeah it's cheap yet nvidia is refusing to add it

[dense tapir]

yep

[shut sinew]

Do we know when the 50 series launches?

[dense tapir]

they fear hurting their business cards

[sterile temple]

also, what if I go amd on the cpu and then some new fandangle ai thing comes out that needs intel mkl for whatever reason?

[dense tapir]

50 series was delayed to 1 quarter 2025

[shut sinew]

[dense tapir]

was supposed to be oct next year

[shut sinew]

Yeah I can't wait that long

[languid pagoda]

amd is great because they actually give out vram but I just can't commit to amd, it's too risky to me

plus I do like dlss ngl

[dense tapir]

Nor I but if, rather when, I buy a 4090 it will be 12 years before I buy another. I used to be 3 gens (I am due now) but at that stupid price 6 gens

[shut sinew]

If there was an aio 7900xtx I might commit

Don't wanna bother with custom loop

[dense tapir]

I hate AIO ngl

[shut sinew]

[dense tapir]

for a vid card for as long as I keep them the AIO will die

[shut sinew]

I had my r290x for almost a decade so yeah

But that won't happen again anyways probably

[dense tapir]

I go up to 9 years on the same card

same, though 3 gens is normally twice the speed min only I see 1060 then I see 4060 and laugh

[shut sinew]

I kept it that long cause it did alright and I was a poor student

[languid pagoda]

that right face is pretty crisp

[sterile temple]

I made do with an intel graphics for years in my laptop 😄 could still play a lot of games (at low settings), but i don't usually play AAA FPS anymore

[dense tapir]

Macro photography so must have been homed in there

[shut sinew]

I need the 4090 for starfield

[languid pagoda]

lol

I can't waitttt for starfield and armored core to try out my new rig

[sterile temple]

lol 120 for base game in AU and 170 for the deluxe 😄

[dense tapir]

Tell you what most people into LLM stuff are not touching the 4k series

[shut sinew]

Oof

[sterile temple]

bethesda has always been reliable at launch /s

[shut sinew]

It will be a shit show but I'm all in for it

[sterile temple]

can't wait to see vids people capture of NPCs floating off into the sky or stuck in the ground

[shut sinew]

Yes

[languid pagoda]

I know bethesda gets memed but I straight up have not run into a game breaking bug at launch so far

[dense tapir]

Jensen so afraid of hurting the hopper had all nvlink ports removed from the consumer grade cards so people are buying two 3090 for less than a single 4090 and using the nvlink for 48gb of goodness.

closest to that is an A6000 RTX for 5-6k

[sterile temple]

memory has always irked me in consumer devices. they always shaft you with the ram and then want rediculous money to upgrade it even though we all know it's cheap

[dense tapir]

Yep

I had 16gb until a few months ago now have 48gb

next machine will have 64 or 128gb

I just upgraded from a 1600 to a 5600 too. Now I see the 5600X is just 18 USD more than I paid for the 5600

[sterile temple]

I think I paid a couple hundred AU to get 64gb to upgrade my laptop after i bought it, if i bought it new with 64gb they would probably want another grand

[dense tapir]

all but gpus are dropping in price

Honestly, one thing is keeping me from buying a 4090, besides the price, is that I have to buy a new case to hold it as they are too long now (FE would exactly fit but Nvidia doesn't make FE now).

[shut sinew]

3090 still had NV link?

I thought 30 series already had that removed

[dense tapir]

the new case I want I have to buy the fans for as well. Sheesh, over 200 USD

no, 3090 has it

[shut sinew]

I have no space for 2 3090s

[dense tapir]

reason price is remaining high as the ML people are buying them up

[languid pagoda]

yeah nvidia sucking

from miners

to scalpers

to this

[dense tapir]

yep

[dense tapir]

btw, I just (shocked as I was) ran over a vid showing hash rates for a 4090 mining the coins.

2 weeks old

If mining comes back just kiss the baby and toss out the computer.

[languid pagoda]

It probably won't come back I imagine 🤔

[dense tapir]

I only saw the first coin tested it was raven coin

it was a lot of coins he was mining

[languid pagoda]

hmm

[dense tapir]

different coins I meant

140+ h/s

mega

I would love to buy a 7900XTX but so much trouble with it for this stuff.

[sterile temple]

biggest business opportunity for them is to get CUDA code working on their cards

[dense tapir]

well

[sterile temple]

forget everything else

[dense tapir]

I just learned the main issue with 7k cards is that Pytorch doesn't support the ROCm that supports them and ROCm really is Linux only\

latest, took a long ass time for them to advance to this, for pytorch is 5.4.0 of ROCm

Makes me wonder if Jensen is tickling them under the table just a little?

[sterile temple]

it'd be like toyota refusing to build a decent truck, just keep making camry's. good car, but no one wants them

[dense tapir]

That is Jensen, and Lisa to a tee.

People don't wish to pay your price so instead of lowering the price you simply stop making them to reduce inventory.

Considering how badly Nvidia is treating their "partners" I suspect, as others do now, another is going to leave them. 2020 35% profit for AIB, now 10% to next year, I believe, 5%

EVGA was my only brand for Nvidia so now I am rudderless. I so mistrust the other AIB which leaves Nvidia only but they no longer make their own cards.

If they did I could buy the FE and would not need a new case.

[crimson flower]

Experimenting with MBW.
Using CounterfeitV3 and amIRealV3.
TL;DR: A plain style transfer isn't always the best if you want to change the style.

Regular CounterfeitV3

The "quality improver" thing that AbyssOrangeMix2_sfw uses.
1,0.9,0.7,0.5,0.3,0.1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.1,0.3,0.5,0.7,0.9,1

The "quality improver" thing that AbyssOrangeMix2_sfw uses, but inversed.
If it normally changes composition, maybe the inverse will change style.
0,0.1,0.3,0.5,0.7,0.9,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,0.9,0.7,0.5,0.3,0.1,0

Inversed "quality improver", but only where the values in the modified "style transfer" are 1, otherwise 0.
0,0.1,0.3,0.5,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,0.9,0.7,0.5,0,0,0

"Quality improver", but set values to 1 where the values in the modified "style transfer" are 1.
1,1,1,1,0.3,0.1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0.7,0.9,1

Inversed "quality improver", but set values to 1 where the values in the modified "style transfer" are 1.
1,1,1,1,0.7,0.9,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0.3,0.1,0

"Style transfer", but modified to not change OUT09-OUT11 since they changed composition and color.
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0

[crimson flower]

Another seed. QualityInverseWhere1 looks good.

[sterile temple]

I like playing around with MBW too. Been mixing a model for a while, add and subtract various other models. Had some good results mixing an anime model in while preserving the original model

[chilly orchid]

so guys this i my character and i want her to have the same clothes in every generation so i can make a light novel or manga

how to achieve that?

[sterile temple]

did you try describe the outfit in the prompt?

[chilly orchid]

No i haven't i thought maybe control net could keep it but no

for example i like the first one

how could i describe that in the prompt

[dense tapir]

I haven't had any luck and I read a shit ton on how it is done. Might be a 2.1 issue but I don't think so for this.

[sterile temple]

orange and white robes? it's going to be tough getting consistent multi colour clothes, probably need a lot of either generating lots of images and upscaling the good ones, or inpainting

[wispy nest]

why does kohya install so many files?

i downloaded torch during setup so why does this download again?

[dense tapir]

on colab it takes me up to 6 mins for all the downloading and building of .whl

sucks ass juice

when you only get 2h per day every single minute counts.

[dense tapir]

It is really hard to find a 4090 these days as so many are OOS

[sterile temple]

why would 'ASUS GeForce RTX 4090 TUF Gaming 24GB' be the cheapest model I can see? I thought ASUS is usually the most expensive

[dense tapir]

TUF is their low end but for me that card is OOS and on Amazon is 1999 USD ffs.

They really are trying very hard to push me away to AMD

You can't even find a MSI Suprim/X

So now MSI Trio X is 1599

This probably has to do with Nvidia diverting almost all chip making to Hopper

[sterile temple]

looks like the cheapest I can pre order is the 'Galax GeForce RTX 4090 SG (1-Click OC) 24GB' for 2599 AUD, or 1757 USD

[dense tapir]

Ouch, although Galax is a good brand I hear just not really in the states.

Import here though it is slowly creeping in

[static tusk]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGV6LQYR?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 says 5 in stock $1700

[shut sinew]

Amazon seems more expensive than other retailers for me

[dense tapir]

Good to see. Not as cool (temp wise) as MSI but still. My issue is my damn chasis as New Egg keeps playing MIR games.

[sterile temple]

is amazon price including tax?

[shut sinew]

I'd guess so

[dense tapir]

Now over 2 months it is the same pattern that repeats over and over when the MIR ends. Read the MIR it sounds scammy, and besides in this world if I did get the cheque I have no where to cash it

No, Amazon is not including tax

not in the USA it isn't

[shut sinew]

Ah USA

Where im from tax is included

[sterile temple]

Ah, so the Galax excluding tax would be about 1597 US

[dense tapir]

I'd trade Galax for Gigabyte as Aussies are lucky having them.

In 6 more weeks if NewEgg continues this nonsense I will just pay more at Amazon. Sad that only Amazon, and NewEgg, carry this pc chassis at all. Must be an exclusive of Phanteks.

What is even worse is that it includes no fans so 40 USD more for the fans for it.

I like it only because it is so large it will be at least 14 years, as my current case, before it has to be replaced because it is too small.

[sterile temple]

The PC shop I'm looking at is using the ASUS TUF Gaming GT502 for their 4090 build

[dense tapir]

Did you see the new case where the gpu is up front where the radiator would go in an open loop wc build? It sits up and down in the vertical position as it is easier to build tall than deep.

[sterile temple]

you'd have to show me

[dense tapir]

It was at computex

about to be released

[sterile temple]

you mean something like this with the radiator at the front?

[dense tapir]

no not at all

I mean the PCIe adaptor is from the board to the gpu and it sits like this in the front -> |

straight up and down.

case/chassis companies are having a bitch of a time with how damn big these cards are getting and one can only have only so deep of a case before it becomes unwieldly.

I am lucky as the new case is 530mm deep

my current case's door curves so is about that from front to back but much more I would have no place for it

[sterile temple]

I've seen a few with the bracket to change the angle like this

[dense tapir]

Yes, like that

not like that for the card

I mean that radiator that is what the card will be

[sterile temple]

oh i see

[dense tapir]

They are having to get creative now

I forget which company is bringing it out as it was on a GN episode at Computex

They didn't show the adapter though

OR how the card will get fastened.

[sterile temple]

geez there's a phantek case that costs 1399 😐

[dense tapir]

Yes

Mine is 179 but 1 year ago was 139 and 1 before that 129

[wispy nest]

1400 for a case? wtf

[dense tapir]

oh, they can go to 5 grand

[wispy nest]

😐

[dense tapir]

Why? Because they are built like tanks made with rollers and all sorts of stuff but I would never buy it

More as a portable server really

made to take a beating

[wispy nest]

zombie apocalypse case can survive anything lol

[dense tapir]

YEP, lol

[sterile temple]

the expandable ITX case is pretty cool

[wispy nest]

noice.

how much lol

[sterile temple]

179 AUD, about 121 USD

[dense tapir]

ITX is just far too small

[wispy nest]

noice.

[dense tapir]

Hmmmm

Not sure what happened there but I like the effect.

[oak osprey]

so nice waking up to just one training ckpt and a bunch of logs indicating it hit another bug in my aspect bucketing code lmao

69GB log file

[oak osprey]

look at the Thermaltake X9 Core

https://fr.thermaltake.com/core-x9.html

[sterile temple]

I think I posted a pic of that earlier because the way they mounted the GPU in the photo

[oak osprey]

you did?

[oak osprey]

buddy, just admit that you're not actually going to buy a gpu lmao you kept saying nvidia won't sell you one and here they are, available for purchase

[smoky oak]

I personally would never buy an MSI GPU directly, but I have had 2 from second hand over the years, and they have been pretty good

I don't support the company at all, personally, as they have a lot of problems with their products, and can be really scummy to reviewers, but I have had decent experiences with them

[wispy nest]

[kind quartz]

what i hear from person watching it closely, MSI is today one of best, times changing, and some good companies in past are using shi... materials.
i have not msi now, used to have 1070ti and cant complain, now i have gigabyte, and cant suggest it.

[wispy nest]

Sytan has spoken

[kind quartz]

@stoic pivot first try, no negative prompt. Probably good is Teddy-bear 🙂

[limpid lichen]

Streamers buy those 1400 dollars. It's sold as a prestige product so that their RGB liquid cooling will shine. They'll give 1 or 2 to a popular streamer to kick start the fad energy.

[stoic pivot]

In human size they are a bit creepy.

[limpid lichen]

i bought a gigabyte 4080. i'm not concerned about problems. it's got a bracket. Any 4080 should have a bracket. holy it's yhuge.

first time i've bought a gigabyte in years though as their motherboards have had such shit components in the past

[stoic pivot]

I am getting closer to what I wanted.

[kind quartz]

it will work, and thats the point 🙂 @limpid lichen

[limpid lichen]

i wanted to buy an msi card but they were sold out. I like that MSI makes great free software tools like afterburner

gigabyte card works with afterburner too so whatever

[kind quartz]

Just new for me was it cant manage cooling bellow 40% of rpm.
Yes afterburner is great. I think all gpus are working with it

[limpid lichen]

yeah i wouldn't expect a 300+ watt card to cool at low fan speeds.

[kind quartz]

but you know it could give you chance change 0rpm for say 10% rpm, but it cant it cant do it. So zero or 40% which is wasting energy imo.
With msi i could set 20% as lowest, not turning off and on, just fans keep going.

[boreal falcon]

Lets see if Acer is going to get a partnership with Nvidia

And we see those Predator GPU cards etc

[smoky oak]

I am surprised my 3080 doesn't have a bracket, it's longer than a 4090FE lmao

But it doesn't say, so I suppose it's fine

*sag

[limpid lichen]

It's not always about sag. The recent gigabyte problems are just caused because it cracks form strain at the pcie pins. Sag or not, all that weight still rests on that connection.

[oak osprey]

my ML server sits like a 1990s desktop horizontally so the concern i have is the motherboard taking the weight of the GPU lmao

didn't use the bracket at all. honestly wasn't sure how it goes on

[smoky oak]

My GPU is like 3 pounds I think

3.5

My GPU is huge lol

3080 longer than a 4090 moment lol

[kind quartz]

3 pounds it is weigth of a standard brick isnt it?

[oak osprey]

by whose standards? the IEC says a brick is 350lbs and OSHA defines it as 3.2lbs, while the US Carpentry and Trade commission defines a brick as the large cinderblock type, at 15.6lbs. the Canadian ministry of scientific measurements and standards defines a brick as 12kg which is about 26lbs, and i don't know what those look like

the DEA defines a brick as 50lbs but i think they're talking about bales of hay

[smoky oak]

Either way, my GPU is way bigger than it needs to be lmao

But luckily I have the case for it

[oak osprey]

TIL realistic vision is a 2.1 model

[smoky oak]

Since when?

Did he release a new 2.1 version?

[shut sinew]

[oak osprey]

makes the same exact results as 2.1 does for the same prompt/seed

1.5 looks totally different

[kind quartz]

it doesnt matter, lets say OSHA then 🙂

[oak osprey]

hm actually RV 1.4 looks like 1.5 output

RV 2.0 looks like 2.1

they're all terrible in any case

[shut sinew]

they all got the same shape if you switch around

[oak osprey]

but not pseudo-journey-v2

there's no people in togas but they were just deemed less important than otters by the model and i have to agree

i'm surprised that model's output is so good without negatives btw, i expected it to do poorly. the models i expected to do better, did very poorly.

[smoky oak]

Uhhhh, no? It's a 1.5 model, I have mixed it with several 1.5 models, and even the page says it's 1.5

[oak osprey]

it's just weird that their output with all 4 models are identical composition etc 😛

the slant in the perspective is the same, the garbage noisy "people" it places

[smoky oak]

Yeah, not sure what to say, 2.0 always matches all of my 1.5 models lol

[oak osprey]

😮

it does?

the fuck lol

[smoky oak]

Yeah? Lmao

I have run probably over 100 comparisons across like 20 models

Realistic vision 2.0 is almost identical to 1.3

[oak osprey]

oh

i thought you meant SD 2.0

i was like, how have i not noticed this

could just be a fluke tbh, for this otter prompt

[smoky oak]

Probably lol

Cause 1.3 and 2.0 real vision are nearly identical

1.4 is better than them IMO, but it's still like 90% the same

[oak osprey]

there goes all my science i did i guess

[smoky oak]

It's very stupid, 1.3 and 2.0 are very similar, but 1.4 is considerably different comparatively

[oak osprey]

yeah

1.4 seems to have trained its text encoder a lot. it makes outputs, uh, i can't share here

[shut sinew]

XL will be fun to explore

[oak osprey]

horrible, horrible things have happened to those otters

grapes is a dangerous word maybe

can't feed it to anyone without negatives

[smoky oak]

My Samsung watch is totalled, and I don't know what to replace it with ._.

[oak osprey]

get an iphone

[smoky oak]

No, I would never lmao

Just looking into other smart watch offerings at the moment

If there was a more recent version of my watch with wear OS, I would be sold

[cyan snow]

I HOPE this is satire

[oak osprey]

iHope

you're infected already

[cyan snow]

dude, those guy are they are definition of a rip-off.

siri is a spyware

[oak osprey]

and yet you look down and notice you have an iPhone in your hand. you look up and see your reflection. you're wearing Gucci and Nike apparel somehow.

[smoky oak]

Lol

[oak osprey]

it all begins to make sense. you look around and see the plebs with their android phones and you begin to smell Steve Ballmer on each of them

[smoky oak]

R/2sentencehorror lol

[cyan snow]

no, siri actually was a spyware, and it might still be

they where caught in 4k

[oak osprey]

no spy could do that much in so little time

[smoky oak]

All listening devices are a form of spy wear

[oak osprey]

i just love how they named their assistant after a porn star

[smoky oak]

Google assistant has always been my favorite porn star 🤓

Lmao

[oak osprey]

Bard is a sexy name i don't care who ya are

[cyan snow]

Google ASSistant

[oak osprey]

google's going to release a bigger language model variant called Big Bard

[smoky oak]

When I read bard, all I can hear is that damn 1700's drip meme lmao

[oak osprey]

all i can think of is George Carlin as the conductor, Sir Toppam Hat

or something

i have brain damage

[smoky oak]

Indeed

[oak osprey]

you're not supposed to agree

[smoky oak]

It's so hard not to with so much evidence supporting it

[oak osprey]

when a pregnant woman asks "am i fat?" im curious, do you say yes

[smoky oak]

I'm not around women, ESPECIALLY pregnant ones lol

[cyan snow]

can't relate more, i'm almost guaranteed to have dementia when getting older

[oak osprey]

so yes

LMAO

Sytan is why that meme of smacking the guy with the sandal exists

[smoky oak]

I'm too busy cat calling their boyfriends

[oak osprey]

oh she probably can't grab her sandal

that was rude and uncalled for i'm sorry

it's the brain damage

[smoky oak]

It was... True lmao

Nothing wrong about being right lmak

[oak osprey]

there's right and then there's being an ass

you can be as right as you want and people won't listen if you're an ass 😛

how do i know this? because i'm an asshole and no one ever listen to me

but i'm allllways right

[smoky oak]

Idk, I don't see anything wrong with that statement. Sure, I've seen you certifiably be an ass, but I wouldn't count what you said as being an ass lol

[oak osprey]

that's cuz you're one too

it's like the blind trying to assess the vision of a fellow blind person

"looks fine to me!"

oh shit that's rude too, fuck

[cyan snow]

https://tenor.com/view/everywhere-at-the-end-of-time-its-just-a-burning-memory-backrooms-the-caretaker-trollge-gif-24774320

[smoky oak]

Yeah, you're really strengthening your brain damage case here lmao

[oak osprey]

took me a month to implement OAuth in a legacy application and get rid of static keys and deploy it while the thing is running with zero downtime today, i'm loopy as FUCK

as project lead i take on the "after effects", eg. everything that broke as a result of the changes

[smoky oak]

As much as I wanna be fake toxic and say "Skill issue", I can't bring myself to even type those words in any scenario in which they may be taken seriously lmao

[oak osprey]

there were zero issues in production which i didn't expect

[smoky oak]

You just have yet to find them :p

[oak osprey]

developer machines however, like stumbling through the dark down some stairs

[cyan snow]

y'all like Halo?

[oak osprey]

it's true, there's always little subtle things that are either harder to test or just don't behave as you expect at full scale of operations but the main kit n kaboodle went smoothly

it's nice when you can slide some piece of technology in at a higher layer than everything usually happens at. and integrate it almost seamlessly

[smoky oak]

Every time I read "Kit n kaboodle"

It's "kitten, cab, doodle"

[oak osprey]

my friend says "kitty wumpus" to describe things that are clearly caddy corner

[smoky oak]

Oh, that's just a mix of kitty-corner and cattywumpus lol

[oak osprey]

When the term first made its way across the Atlantic, Americans conformed to the British way of speaking and said “catercorner.” But around 1883, the phrase had been corrupted to “catty-corner” in the South, and once catty-corner caught on, folks in the North and Midwest somehow managed to focus on the feline part of the word and turned it into “kitty-corner.”```

[smoky oak]

Yeeeuuppp

And interestingly enough, here in Cali, it's catty corner lol

[oak osprey]

in canada, it's caddy with D's

sounds more like the people in Quebec say it

laughs en francais

[smoky oak]

What are you giggle farts up to?

I'm waiting for our plane

Going back to 'Merica

[cyan snow]

oh no, again?

[smoky oak]

Yeah, we are going back

As much as I do like the vibe and feel of Mexico, I do like leaving it cause man it is not a safe place 😅

[cyan snow]

it's been more then 2 decades, why again?!

[smoky oak]

What?

[cyan snow]

oh, nvm, you're innocent

sorry, i mistook this for something else

[oak osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/netflix-narcos-pablo-3ohzdZ7ieCTii6ayaY

[smoky oak]

Not sure why you turned me waiting for a plane into a 9/11 joke lmao

But okaayyyy

[oak osprey]

i didn't get it

[cyan snow]

i won't bother explaining, i have a terrible sense of humor

[smoky oak]

Evidently lol

[oak osprey]

don't rub it in lol

[cyan snow]

also, can you give me the Shrek sauce prompt? i want to see what my model makes

[oak osprey]

a jar of shrek next to a bowl of shrekuamole, that's all

oh

a delicious jar of shrek ...

delicious is in there

the mogwai shrek seems to be some rare AI cryptoid

i hate that he has nipples

[oak osprey]

aw a little shrek mogwai baby

[oak osprey]

disturbing shit, good job

love how it looks like they snuffed catnip

[cyan snow]

why does it make that? that is not in the prompt

[oak osprey]

it's actually a result of deformations in the attention layers of the unet, as i understand it

training on high res reduces them a lot

[oak osprey]

same reason it makes 3 jars of shrek

[oak osprey]

the double exposure model gets super weird with this prompt

[cyan snow]

double exposure?

this is with shrek cereal

[oak osprey]

oh wait, this is shrek and hulk mixed together

[cyan snow]

why pistachios

OH NO

why are they babies

[oak osprey]

capitalism, baby

[cyan snow]

it made pistachios again

[oak osprey]

why do they look like they're all loaded with quaaludes

sedatives

[cyan snow]

oh, quaaludes is a drug LOL

[oak osprey]

no way that thing is sober

high as a kite

[cyan snow]

it made another shrek baby

[oak osprey]

i like to imagine that the big one is happy to give birth to little food ingredient creatures that are happy to become food

shrek farming

[cyan snow]

DUDE WTF, i swear i used the prompt generator thing once and it said something about ingrediants being happy to be food

[oak osprey]

it does

i've seen it

christ. i forgot i was on SD 1.5 still. LMAO

[cyan snow]

yeah, that's so weird. it said something like: professional pizza food photography, the cheese is so happy to be food

[cyan snow]

im also in 1.5 and mine came out pretty good

[oak osprey]

mine was like, bulbous and happy creatures popping out of a tree trunk, lying down on the picnic blanket, excited to be eaten as food

but i connect GPT3.5 to it and tell it how prompting works with a few examples

    async def random_image_prompt(self, theme: str = None):
        prompt = f"Print your prompt."
        if theme is not None:
            prompt = prompt + '. Your theme to mix in: ' + theme
        system_role = "You are a Prompt Generator Bot, that strictly generates prompts, with no other output, to avoid distractions.\n"
        system_role = f"{system_role}Your prompts look like these 3 examples:\n"
        system_role = f"{system_role}a portrait of astonishing daisies, rolling hills, beautiful quality, luxurious, 1983, kodachrome\n"
        system_role = f"{system_role}a camera photo of great look up a rolling wave, the ocean in full view, best quality, intricate, photography\n"
        system_role = f"{system_role}digital artwork, feels like the first time, we went to the zoo, colourful and majestic, amazing clouds in the sky, epic\n"
        system_role = f"{system_role}The subject must come first, with actions coming next, and then style attributes.\n"
        system_role = f"{system_role}Any additional output other than the prompt will damage the results. Stick to just the prompts."
        image_prompt_response = await self.turbo_completion(system_role, prompt, temperature=1.18)

[cyan snow]

i replace the prompt gen model with GPT-4 LLaMa

it usually makes great prompts

[oak osprey]

i like it to be fast 😛

you! you over there! yeah, you! i know ya see us shreks, rollin' around. we need help!

pseudo-journey-v2 without negatives is good times, man

[oak osprey]

dude that looks so bootleg

[cyan snow]

why pistachios again

[oak osprey]

it seems that late stage elder magic syndrome has a venn diagram overlap with cryptoid mogwai shrek syndrome

[cyan snow]

and LOAB, of course

[oak osprey]

can't forget Ligma

[cyan snow]

you think SDXL will also have those syndromes?

[oak osprey]

SDXL has different forms of dementia but yeah totally

it has Sticky Pope Syndrome, and Wish.com Celebrity Syndrome

[cyan snow]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-lonely-sadge-sad-pepe-lonely-pepe-gif-24375295

[oak osprey]

it's because there is no truly balanced dataset yet

there's too much of douchebag A, not enough of douchebag B

[cyan snow]

still, SDXL should be the best diffusion model made so far

[oak osprey]

would be neat to do dynamic concept bucketing as well as aspect bucketing

oh it is

it doesn't need negative prompts

the outputs here are all without any

[wispy nest]

I try and limit my own negative prompts, more is better, but it's not always needed to have any at all

[oak osprey]

i used to only ever test my in-progress models without negative prompts and it was very misleading, i'd greatly improved pseudo-journey-v2 and didn't realise how much until i added negative prompts and decided hell yeah it's good enough

but, when i run tests today without negatives, that model is clearly the best without the negatives. it gets left behind by one of the newer ones with a really good negative prompt though. it just doesn't know as much

i had one evolution i'd taken a single model, to get to that v2, and it was really good, and had a lot of training. like a lot. 15,600 steps

took 2 weeks to get those steps done

[wispy nest]

I mostly use negative prompts to detail the image. Such as removing a color.

[oak osprey]

the new lineage i've focused on photography skills

[wispy nest]

I also use negatives when the ai won't stop creating weird weapons :P

[wild sorrel]

I don't see anything weird in this weapon, could easily see it in a game

[wispy nest]

hehe, well, thanks! But I'd maybe want it to be a little longer behind the character. But hey ho, one can always just try again :P

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak seems like i damaged the text encoder at some point

left is base 2.1 text encoder, right is pseudo-real-beta that i based that unet training on

[wispy nest]

of course it would be able to make something of a silly prompt on the first try and not the serious ones I tried sooo much longer to get correct >:I

[oak osprey]

it's a prompt trying to get a dude playing guitar in a park at night. both are overly dark which i assume is just the model figuring out what "true dark" means

well, at night, illuminated only by party lanterns

[smoky oak]

Alright, when I get back home to America, I will have some commissions to do

Including a cute tiger guy :p

I'm actually very excited to get back home

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak the family broke up 😦

50% of AI training validation prompts end in divorce

is the contrast looking better?

[wispy nest]

huh, that's half the normal ones!

[oak osprey]

i really like the current lighting it can do, even though the darkest scenes aren't quite there yet

ah the moon colony prompt finally improved. that thing i feel like has been shitty for weeks

[oak osprey]

trying out multi-GPU training again

[wispy nest]

XL might drop tomorrow it sounds like. hopefully can train it

[dense tapir]

Precisely. The tables are flipping as they normally do.

[dense tapir]

I was never a fan of Acer as they were always Goodwill (thrift store) quality.

[oak osprey]

seems like it'll end up on the stable studio thing but i don't think it's going to be released

the images today are all showing up with watermarks

lol

[boreal falcon]

i enjoyed using some of their products in the past

lets see what they will come up with now

some of other alternatives for me will be MSI and Corsair

not sure about ASUS anymore right now

[dense tapir]

ASUS has went full on rogue

I love my MSI motherboard and I love Corsair for power supplies and even ram.

I am not sure what is going on but in all my carts across various retailers AMD, and Nvidia, cards just went up 15-20%.

[boreal falcon]

same with one of the online shops here

GPUs went straight +200€

but luckily only one of them

from what i saw

[dense tapir]

I have 7900XTX Sapphire Nitro+ and for 4090 various

[boreal falcon]

4090 is my next stop, or 50 generation if it comes next year or the year after

although i might still stick to 4090

[dense tapir]

Well, 2-2.7x the speed of a 4090 at 1.5 times the MSRP for a 5090

[boreal falcon]

128 GB DDR5 RAM is not a option now due to stability issues but i will get 2x 32 GB RAM of DDR5 and when they fix it i might upgrade to 128

and for processor, obviously i9 13900k

[dense tapir]

I am sticking with my B450 for as long as I can then when I upgrade all the wrinkles will have been straightened out with the 5th gen stuff

[boreal falcon]

tomahawk?

[dense tapir]

for cpus I am all Ryzen

MSI Pro Carbon AC

Had it since Gigabyte burned up first gen Ryzen motherboards on people and refused to accept warranty returns. Saw Buildzoid on this board and he was right. Fantastic board with no complaints on it.

[boreal falcon]

aah okay 😄 I was thinking there about either MSI MPG Z790 carbon or even Z790 godlike but the latter one really less likely

since very expensive

considering that i have to pay a LOT for art programs and plugins as well for example

and all the periphery for PC

monitor especially

[boreal falcon]

for gamers thats okay, but creators almost always prefer Intel for creative sector tasks from what i witnessed

[dense tapir]

This is why I am anti Gigabyte and here we go again with them not accepting warranty returns on their 3k cards that snap and once snapped screw it you can't fix it

[dense tapir]

I will gladly accept a longer creative task for less price, wattage, and heat.