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[smoky oak]

Lol

[cyan snow]

@smoky oak this is me rn

[smoky oak]

As you do

[sterile temple]

[smoky oak]

Currently struggling to communicate with the Mexican side of my family here in mexico

[sterile temple]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-eric-cartman-cartman-hennifer-lopez-tacos-gif-5379829

[smoky oak]

[oak osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/angry-computer-frustrated-EmB4QtACPVBpS

[smoky oak]

I will end your bloodline

[oak osprey]

i will go marky-mark on yo ayuss

[oak osprey]

i'll like, flex in the high contrast street light illumination with some sweat drops catching the light just right and my hollywood-inspired physique will distract long enough that i can disappear into a puff of fart cloud

like Batman

[smoky oak]

You genuinely just gave me brain damage. Continue with that and I'll probably forget how to breathe and suffocate to death

[oak osprey]

that's my next level-up power

[formal kraken]

inapinting chickens into my home

it's glorious

the true meaning of AI

unknown bird has now claimed my bathtub as it's own

the chicken army is taking over

[sterile temple]

monday morning.. might be time for coffee #2 already

someone needs to make a mr burns excellent with merged fingers as an AI meme now!

i think i scared everyone off

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak the 5800X3D i upgraded to in my ML rig really flies during the aspect bucketing and image processing stages

[chrome kite]

Just exported a ton of great images off of my computer

here’s one

And a different one

Made in Stable Diffusion, if you can believe it

which you probably can because the image is not great pixel art

but it’s pretty cool that we can make pixel art. I’m using, I think, the pixelized image addon

[oak osprey]

might be the best lighting so far

[hard valley]

How to fix?

[sterile temple]

try #🤝｜tech-support

[formal kraken]

For a convo in #sd-chat

[oak osprey]

[smoky oak]

I am up so upset right now lmao

I know this has nothing to do with you guys, but we are in Playa Del Carmen Mexico right now, and there is a small store where there are itty bitty baby big cats, and they are so fucking cute, but they are charging $60 PER PICTURE

And you can't touch them unless you pay.

They are so small you can lay them on your shoulder, and they are so cute and floppy and playful

They have a black panther, a normal tiger, a white tiger, and a golden tiger

And the guys are all assholes to you and tell you to move on if you aren't willing to pay

[sterile temple]

probably better not to support that anyway right? there's a lot of animal cruelty in exotic animal tourism

can always get SD to create cute pic for you 😉

[oak osprey]

ew that's some tiger king shit, they probably kill off the cubs when they get too old to be cute for $60 pics

that's what happened at their zoo anyway

crazy how there's more tigers in captivity in the US than exist in the wild at all anymore

[smoky oak]

My only hope is, that it is in a very public location, and there are a lot of resort circuses around, and if they belong to any of the adult big cats in their local shows

That would make me feel a lot better, to know they are their cubs and that they get to play with people while their parents perform

[oak osprey]

yes sure

[smoky oak]

If they belong to any of the paradise hotels, then they have very good living conditions from what we have seen, huge enclosures, lots of shelter, better than most in zoos

That'sy only hope

[oak osprey]

i hope they just get returned to the wild and the place shut down

tony tiger approved

[sterile temple]

don't want to make you too depressed, but what you see is just the cost of doing business with rich people to make them feel okay about it. you don't see what really happens out of sight. what do the same people do with the animals in attractions for the local or poorer tourists? most people are ignorant to it unfortunately. unless you make it against the law and enforce it, people are going to exploit animals for money. we are lucky in US and Australia where there a lot of laws against animal cruelty and we can afford to buy free range animal products and what not. just not the same elsewhere 😦

[oak osprey]

oh no

now i have an australian accent in my head when i read humblemikey's messages

[dense tapir]

Free range has been shown to be a lie too caught on video. If money is to be made there will be happy thoughts marketing to cover up what is really happening behind the scenes.

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak i'm sorry we can't enjoy your nice tiger story lmao i hope you're having a good evening

[smoky oak]

It wasn't a "nice story" by any means, but you guys sure did a great job of depressing me on the matter even more

Just trying to get my mind off of that before I spiral so yeah, I'd like to move on.

[oak osprey]

well i've been making lots of deformed images again

do you want to see some

its a painting

no its supposed to be a photo

hipster harry potter lmfeao

the meeps start kickin' in at the perty

[sterile temple]

this looks really pixelated on my remote connection, but hopefully not too bad

[oak osprey]

i don't see the pixelation here

full meep

i bet that looks great to you @sterile temple

[sterile temple]

Kinda looks like Steve Jobs

[oak osprey]

iWizard, hairy

cartoonized portrait of harry potter at a 1990s house party in bokeh, depth of field, professional photography, high resolution 1920x1080, highly detailed, intricate detail, portrait

tried to make him handsome lmao

how many fuckin jackets is he stealing from this party

[sterile temple]

If you can get men's clothing to work, that would be like solving the hand problem

Buttons or button holes on both sides of the shirt, double collars, sleeves that stop and start again, watches that are just a mess, weird studded earrings, random bag straps, etc etc

[oak osprey]

sounds like a job for a negative embed, unfortunately

[oak osprey]

done

this model is so hard to use but dear lord the fucking wide gens can be funny

pure magic

[sterile temple]

Tripped on the rug

[oak osprey]

"give it more pixels, it'll do better"

[smoky oak]

That feels very midjourney v3

[weak sage]

@midnight sedge

[midnight sedge]

tried that also

I even did a soft reinstall

One thing Im noticing is that in console menu it always shows it cannot find whatever VAE was selected in my drop down menu previously

[weak sage]

hmmmm should i be concerned

[wild sorrel]

it's a thing on sketchfab now

[sterile temple]

cute

[chrome kite]

I think that’s a very selfish thing for them to do

Kinds weird generation but I like the style

[marble wasp]

damn, scrolling through some of your guys' images, yall have really advanced in your abilities. Crazy!

[chrome kite]

Ears not great but still like it

[smoky oak]

Now THAT is a true moral question lol

[wispy nest]

very good. none or all.

[static tusk]

not quite right. either switch selection will end with all

[fleet goblet]

Ah yes.

[wispy nest]

a good approach would be to question the settings to begin with 🙂

[fleet goblet]

Does anyone know an OpenCL-supported method of running Stable Diffusion?

[sterile temple]

do your chain hang low?

[oak osprey]

ask a more specific question

what are you trying to do

[fleet goblet]

That was a very specific question. Lol

A method of running SD through OpenCL.

Hopefully a WebUI.

Who knows.

[oak osprey]

sorry, i am a developer and it doesnt make sense to me

are you trying to use intel arc? or radeon? cpu? something else?

[fleet goblet]

Arc.

But both AMD, Arc and Nvdia support OpenCL.

[oak osprey]

wont work

[fleet goblet]

I was wondering if there was a repo or a WebUI capable of properly running SD on Windows through OpenCL.

What do you mean "Won't Work"

[oak osprey]

nope. pytorch does rocm and cuda

[fleet goblet]

IPEX on WSL.

Or OpenVino.

Both of which work with SD.

But they aren't OpenCL-based.

Which was my question.

[oak osprey]

no idea what that is

it doesnt do it.

[fleet goblet]

Lol

You say you're a developer but you for some reason think that Pytorch can only support two backends.

Lmao

[oak osprey]

i do not bother with windows

[fleet goblet]

Why are you trying to help someone that is.

If you don't even use Windows.

[oak osprey]

that is why i told you to ask a more specific question ahahahahahahahahahahaha

[fleet goblet]

Entirely different distributions and compatabilities between operating systems.

[oak osprey]

good luck kiddo

[fleet goblet]

Kiddo?

Lmao

[smoky oak]

all I know is that OpenCL has been falling out of a lot of programs in favor of Rocm, like blender

They removed all OpenCL from blender for just ROCm

[fleet goblet]

Kinda interesting because OpenCL 2.2 bundles with ROCm.

[smoky oak]

In that case I am not sure, but I do know blender doesn't use just OpenCL anymore, and has no support for it like it used to

[oak osprey]

opencl is obsolete

apple got rid of it too

amd lost it

nvidia doesnt care about it

[smoky oak]

You used to be able to run hardware through OpenCL, CUDA, OptiX, or none

And now it's ROCm, CUDA, and OptiX now

Tho I am not sure why they support just raw CUDA anymore, as OptiX runs better even on non RT/Tensor cards

[oak osprey]

theres possibly a way to use vulkan. but no one cares about arc. i dont think any higher up pytorch devs even own one

optix is only maxwell or newer

[fleet goblet]

Intel has two things.

IPEX (Intel Extension for pytorch)

And OpenVino

[smoky oak]

isn't Maxwell 7xx?

[oak osprey]

something like that

@tropic shell

[smoky oak]

Great

@shut sinew

[oak osprey]

@split rover

lol

n0t enough mods

[smoky oak]

No idea how the hell this server STILL doesn't have any spam protection, like at all

[smoky oak]

There never are, yet they are never hiring

Lmao

[fleet goblet]

Just block him

and everything is solved

[oak osprey]

selfish Dan

[smoky oak]

Wonder how long it will take the mods this time

[fleet goblet]

huh

[oak osprey]

a day

hahaha

[smoky oak]

Can't even read chat now, great

[oak osprey]

its probably Sen

[sterile temple]

https://tenor.com/view/black-panther-gif-22684568

[oak osprey]

the mod system here is weaksauce

[chrome kite]

He’s gone

[smoky oak]

That's a generous understatement lol

[oak osprey]

oh yeah im sure they wont come back

[fleet goblet]

Time to once again set up SD in wsl

[oak osprey]

well thanks to whoever banned them ❤️

[smoky oak]

Yeah, that wait time wasn't that bad

Last time was just pathetic

[oak osprey]

i got banned from a twitch stream because my user name was "sus" to say out loud. it is Nibbloid ahahaha

i didnt get it at all, everyone else was pissed

[tropic shell]

Hm?

[oak osprey]

just a spambot

clyde didnt stop them

[smoky oak]

Clyde is a pathetic bot

[oak osprey]

state of the art tech

[tropic shell]

Ah.

[smoky oak]

Maybe stank of the arch

[oak osprey]

dank of the starch

[tropic shell]

Cornstarch and water

[oak osprey]

filled an olympic pool with that once

we got to run across and see who makes it further

[tropic shell]

I can only imagine how that went

[oak osprey]

very expensively and everyone had regrets but texas

so, they did it again next year

[tropic shell]

Sounds like something you should do in Texas

Oh, well

Broken bones heal

[oak osprey]

yeah was the indoor pool for the high school as a fundraiser

aquatics

we also made cardboard boats and raced them on the water

[smoky oak]

Careful, might ruin their water infrastructure, doubt it's any better than their nonexistent electrical infrastructure

[oak osprey]

this was circa 2004

im old, remember

[smoky oak]

Indeed you are

:p

[tropic shell]

I love swimming. Running was great. But slip and slides have learned me that I....would not make it on an oobleck surface

[oak osprey]

age before batter, horse cheese

typo city

[tropic shell]

How old is old, really?

[smoky oak]

Older than the other party

[oak osprey]

do your bones ache for no reason?

thats old

[smoky oak]

You don't have to be old to have that haha

[tropic shell]

My bones have ached since I was born

[smoky oak]

Kinda same

[tropic shell]

But I'm an outlier

[oak osprey]

i was born with crohns and didnt poop for 4 days

kind of a world record holder

[tropic shell]

Ah, genetics

A lottery of questions

If you're over 40, your bones start to ache

If you're over 50, then they really start to change with the air pressure and weather

If you're over 30, and and work manual labor, see 40's and 50s

[sterile temple]

I'm in my thirties and have an adjustable bed and a lazyboy recliner 😁

[oak osprey]

and a chair lift to take you upstairs?

[tropic shell]

I want a chair to take me upstairs lmao

[sterile temple]

No upstairs in my house

[smoky oak]

We just upgraded to a single story house

[oak osprey]

upgraded?

[sterile temple]

From a basement?

[oak osprey]

from a shed?

[tropic shell]

I have a........dollar store adjustable bed, aka, this giant pillow behind me with arms

[smoky oak]

From a 2 story house. 2 story houses are not good at all IMO lol

They have like 0 benefits

[oak osprey]

thats a hot take

[tropic shell]

There was no top floor--only a basement! (Congrats on your better situation!)

It's only hot if you have no AC and are, in fact, upstairs

[smoky oak]

Want an inconsistent temperature house, where the upstairs is too hot, and the bottom is too cold?

Get a 2 story house

Wanna be massively inconvenienced any time you need something from downstairs? Get a 2 story house

Wanna have 0 chance of automated home cleaning? You guessed it!

[oak osprey]

in a single storey house, the downstairs becomes.that hot

[tropic shell]

Get a dumbwaiter and paid staff

[oak osprey]

no one here has ac

[tropic shell]

Or train and animal to get said things for you, naturally

[smoky oak]

I will never happily choose to go back to a 2 story house, there is no reason to, it's just a waste of knees

[tropic shell]

Ah, the joys of getting older

[oak osprey]

he's a teen lmao

[tropic shell]

I know lol

But his day will come for owning a home, too

[oak osprey]

not at this rate

fuckin real estate scam

[smoky oak]

Owning a home isn't really a viable option for most anymore, not getting my hopes up on that lol

[tropic shell]

Look here, fine, we can all build tree houses together okay

[oak osprey]

they will log the trees

[tropic shell]

If it becomes Bladerunner, I guess they'll be metal trees, but we'll make do

[oak osprey]

and if you thought a 2 storey house was annoying to Sytan, wait til he has to haul a bucket of poop up and down the tree

i guess not up the tree, only down

the bucket will be empty going back up

[tropic shell]

No, no, the outhouse has to be downstairs

Like the outhouse down the road from me with the solar panel on it

[oak osprey]

you have to have some way to charge your cellie.

[tropic shell]

Before the obligatory roaming planet charges kick in 🤣

[shut sinew]

We already explained you that we have spam protection iirc, but some stuff just slips through

[smoky oak]

I have no comment lmao

[tropic shell]

Unfortunately, this is true. I stepped away for two seconds, and something happened--such is life.

[oak osprey]

well i had to scroll up to see comments from people

it was fairly awful

[tropic shell]

Esp on mobile

[oak osprey]

almost wore a groove into my phone screen

[smoky oak]

I'm just not gonna interact with this conversation before I get heated again lol

[tropic shell]

You know what's fun? When Discord gets stuck in a loop, and it thinks you're trying to open the panel to change channels, and it just opens, closes, open, closes.

Now that's a fun time.

[smoky oak]

Damn, that's a new one, never had that one

[tropic shell]

It does it to me all the time.

Never fully settling on what panel it's going to open.

Terribly exciting, really.

[smoky oak]

Very strange. Discord is likely to be the worst piece of mainstream software I have ever used, but never had that specific one. That's interesting

[tropic shell]

Tech is difficult.

[smoky oak]

I am having to use a very outdated discord version on my old and buggy phone, so I don't hold anything against discord at the moment

[tropic shell]

But back to our tree houses!

[smoky oak]

Tech is difficult, but discord is inept lmao

[sterile temple]

You've never used Teams?

[tropic shell]

I'm certainly having a garden.

[smoky oak]

I have, a markedly better and more reliable experience than discord IMO

Discord has had the same problems for over half a decade now, and we have all just kinda gotten used to working around them lol

[oak osprey]

just wait til you're older and you've experienced even more trash than Discord 😄

pretty sure others my age in here were first on IRC

[smoky oak]

A close contender is blender, honestly

But it's still not as bad as discord for sure

[oak osprey]

don't be mean to blender, it is open source

[tropic shell]

You mean...Treeowners associations?

[smoky oak]

Blender gets no passes from me, free doesn't mean overlook huge issues IMO

[oak osprey]

you're able to fix them just like anyone else can, which means you don't get a free pass on blender 😛

[tropic shell]

Blender?

[smoky oak]

I do like parts of blender, but man they are all over the place

[tropic shell]

As in the 3D software?

[oak osprey]

crack open the source code, sign the CLA and get to work!

[smoky oak]

That is true, but it's not my job to do so, so I have stopped using it for the moment

[oak osprey]

that's why it sucks, it's no one's job to fix

[smoky oak]

I just don't agree with their way of doing things at the moment

[smoky oak]

It's the job of blenders paid programmers lmao

[oak osprey]

they're getting paid by users to work on stuff those users care about

[smoky oak]

They are getting paid by the blender foundation, and they work as salary paid developers

[limpid lichen]

there's a lot of money backing blender last i checked

[smoky oak]

A shit ton lol

[limpid lichen]

blender foundation is a big non profit

[oak osprey]

they're paid poverty wages lol

[smoky oak]

Yeah, they get donations out the ass

[smoky oak]

I will agree with that, yeah, but still, it literally IS their job to fix blenders huge issues lol

[limpid lichen]

wow. don't be a google expert. That's litereally not even the first search result. It's google's algorithmic response

[smoky oak]

And of course I don't dislike blenders parts equally, cause some of their sectors have their shit together, but lots of others do not

[oak osprey]

iceycold you weren't even here for most of this convo

don't show up late and start throwing jabs

[limpid lichen]

oh i didn't realize we were in a private convo and not #1072236442463518882 okay sorry mb

[smoky oak]

@limpid lichen I like your PFP BTW

[limpid lichen]

MHA

[oak osprey]

https://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Skill=Blender_Software/Salary

[smoky oak]

Yeah, those are much higher pay lol

[oak osprey]

they're paid under $40k in vancouver

i wouldn't be surprised if they were homeless

[smoky oak]

I saw less than 30k when I googled it, so that's already a huge increase over what I saw

[oak osprey]

man at your age you really need to start having a better understanding of pay scale

[limpid lichen]

lol those sites are always skewed lower because they keep data going back over a decade

[oak osprey]

40k is nowhere near enough, especially in vancouver or california

[smoky oak]

Yeah, I am not saying I agree with their pay, but it is exactly their job to fix blenders bugs

[oak osprey]

200k is like required to live in california

[smoky oak]

No need for insults, I know it's bad pay, but it's still a job

[limpid lichen]

noone getting paid 40k in vancouver. That's full time minimum wage

[oak osprey]

it's just how life goes, no one teaches young people this stuff and then bam, you're taking a job for $35k because it feels like enough money, and it really isn't. i ended up in that situation

[limpid lichen]

you took something i said personal. I don't regret that at all because i don't know why you're irked. You need to figure that out. moving on

[oak osprey]

ok and what's the goal of that then

[smoky oak]

No comment lol

[oak osprey]

why say that

[limpid lichen]

same goal as this perhaps. Worry about you.

[oak osprey]

no need to be angry because you're young and inexperienced. be grateful people are explaining to you in advance lmao

[smoky oak]

Agreed here

[limpid lichen]

willing to bet late 20s

perfect blend of "i know it all" and "inexperienced"

[oak osprey]

oh so now you're just being a dick for fun i guess, all on your own, to show how good you are at it 🙂

[smoky oak]

Your advice isn't asked for, and it's not even advice, I have worked jobs, I make money actively, and my parents guide me up u til my father could take anymore. I come from money, and we know how to spend, save, and protect our assets, so please, it's not needed

[limpid lichen]

well i thought we were guessing each other's ages suddenly

[smoky oak]

I agree with iceycold here

[limpid lichen]

age seemed to be a prominent discussion point

[smoky oak]

Pseudo is going back into his patronizing arch ._.

[limpid lichen]

seems to be very passive aggressively condescending yeah

[oak osprey]

yes, it's a big deal when in discussions about life and money, knowing that someone is 19 and hasn't experienced jack shit in life helps a lot

[smoky oak]

And you don't know what I HAVE experienced

[oak osprey]

i know how long you've had to experience it, that's enough

[limpid lichen]

maybe you're projecting your own 19 year old self onto them?

19 years is a lot of years

[oak osprey]

you literally can't have experienced all of the things i have. there's just no way

[smoky oak]

actually you know what, I do that need to prove myself for anybody, this is just a waste of my time

[oak osprey]

there's no proving anything anyway, just take the advice and move on lmao

complaining about blender when it's open source and you contribute nothing to it just really smacks of entitlement

[smoky oak]

Your advice is not wanted, or beneficial, but thank you :heart

[smoky oak]

Again, you know nothing of what I have and have not contributed to blender

[oak osprey]

the kind of youthful entitlement that goes away as you grow and realise you can "put up or shut up"

[smoky oak]

But sure, continue to assume, ANYWAYS

[wispy spindle]

Chop chop chop chop chop chop

[smoky oak]

I have said I wanted this conversation to move on for a while now, IDK why you can't just drop things

So like I said multiple times now, moving on

[tropic shell]

Hey guys, let's be nice

[smoky oak]

Anyways, I am on a boat

[limpid lichen]

don't know why age is relevant to blender. i imagine when i'm older i'll want software to behave particular ways, and not want to flex software engineering skills to get there

[smoky oak]

I do a float float

[limpid lichen]

i'll probably just use a different software before i open a source code file

[smoky oak]

It's not, like at all, but some people forget that

[tropic shell]

So, let's pick a different topic, shall we?

[limpid lichen]

i'm not much of a MHA fan, but this character has rockeet feet

[smoky oak]

I worked hand in hand with Drachen Seele for his Super Image Denoiser, which is massively successful, and I also have supported several cycles bug reports and suggestions for fixing them, and some have been implemented

I used to be soooo active in the biggest blender server, before their moderators went insane and banned most of the active members

And that kinda killed my love for blender, that and the fact that they aren't doing what people want, and are choosing to add stuff nobody wants instead of fixing problems people want fixed lol

I would love to mess with SD in blender tho

[tropic shell]

Rockets on feet sound fantastic.

[limpid lichen]

no not rockets on his feet.

rocket feet

[smoky oak]

Lol

[limpid lichen]

see the little exhausts

[tropic shell]

See, you said rockeet, so I figured, mayhap, you meant rocket.

[oak osprey]

rockyeet

[tropic shell]

But approval nonetheless.

[limpid lichen]

the anime sometimes call them rocket engines or car engines. he's got machines in his legs

[smoky oak]

Probably gonna use all data out on this island haha

[tropic shell]

I figured, given the design

I love how creative anime can be

It's fun

[smoky oak]

Oh, I finally found a distinct and cool style I wanna train a LoRA on when I get home

[tropic shell]

I wish you luck

Well, speaking of work, I have things, dear folks, to get back to

Cheerio for the moment!

[limpid lichen]

i've actually never really been interested in MHA much. It's a typical highschool orientated anime. But i love the idea of engines / rockets in legs

[smoky oak]

Makes me think of FMA's kneecap rocket launchers lol

[limpid lichen]

i need to watch fma i think. people keep telling me it has awesome machines

[smoky oak]

It really does, FMA brotherhood is dope

[limpid lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-bee-girl-woman-weapon-gif-18375583

[smoky oak]

FMA is cool, but Brotherhood is amazing

Wow, I still have signal this far out i to the ocean haha

*into

Kinda crazy

Holding on to one bar

We are probably like 10 KM off shore

I have 2 bars now what

👁️ 👄 👁️

[smoky oak]

Ohhhhhh

The island we are going to is huge lmao

I couldn't see it cause it was at the front of the ship, they have skyscrapers and huge infrastructure, no wonder I never dropped signal lol

[cinder orbit]

hey guys my Controlnet is not working, can somebody tell me why?

[oak osprey]

not working? like it gives an error?

[smoky oak]

That's weird, I'm not sure why

[oak osprey]

loss=0.0766 damn i've never seen SD2.1 loss values this low

i'm a fuckin genius

[neon crystal]

Any of you guys playing with MusicGen? Visuals made with SD

[cyan snow]

no, it's not open-sourced, atleast as far as i'm aware.

[neon crystal]

It is! Commercial use is permitted too if I'm not wrong. Training code is expected to release soon.

[oak osprey]

after a while of training on 1920x1080, i get just one rainbow now

before it has like 6

different directions and multiple waterfalls

1.5 fail

blinks repeatedly, trying to focus eyes

[quartz ravine]

I like that there is a stable diffusion discord. I'm finding it nice to look at the #1103141787960344576 now and then (even though the pictures themselves are pretty boring)

I haven't worked on my project in the last week, but I was able to get outputs that look like babies on my last attempt (and I realized that the artist prompts I was using was unintentionally causing the character to trend older than I was prompting for)

I might try learning control nets next

compared to some of my first early diffusions in October, just 8 months ago

[oak osprey]

we were all working on welding baby photos a week back or so

[quartz ravine]

nice, yeah I'm going for more of a fantasy theme

and I guess a lot of fantasy art is like, teenage characters

or adults

so certain fantasy artists unintentionally result in making babies very hard to generate

[oak osprey]

a lot of people purposely train babies/toddlers/infants out of their checkpoints for... reasons

[quartz ravine]

I think that makes sense

Basically I had a notion that I wanted to create art of "families" of characters, including people who wouldn't necessarily be protagonists

but more like background characters/NPCs

[oak osprey]

you can try something like textual inversion which makes it possible to train a keyword on a particular set of images, to help the model find a vector that fits them

[quartz ravine]

yeah, I was thinking of doing that, until i found this workaround (removing artist names). I'll probably come back to Text Inversion later as well.

I saw some great Loras that are trained on hair styles, and also control net poses, which I was also planning to play with soon

[oak osprey]

artist names are indeed pretty broken as you describe

[quartz ravine]

and of course, still working on the holy grail "different color pants/shirt/hair"

[oak osprey]

very overfitted in many regards. and i would avoid them for many reasons, but that's just one of them.

[quartz ravine]

Not my example, but I like this demo of the problem of attributing color to a specific thing

thinking of trying out regional prompts this week to see if I can get enough control

[oak osprey]

Sytan said (and demonstrated) that regional prompting makes their photoreal gens look like clownshoes

[quartz ravine]

I'm a little worried, because technically you don't really know where the character is positioned. So at best you're guessing where the hair/body/legs begin and end

[quartz ravine]

Do you have a link/image? might save me some time

[oak osprey]

if you use Compel you can do prompt segmentation

eg. ("a man with blonde hair", "a woman with black hair").and()

you'd have to look up how to enable that in Automatic1111

[quartz ravine]

https://github.com/damian0815/compel
This thing?

[limpid lichen]

transformers i don't think work with diffusion models

[quartz ravine]

Tested and developed against Hugging Face's StableDiffusionPipeline but it should work with any diffusers-based system that uses an Tokenizer and a Text Encoder of some kind.
from the github.

But regardless, before I spend the effort to try to set it up, are there more examples? There is only 2 in the read me and it's not entirely clear that the benefit is worth the extra setup

especially if someone was demoing this recently, I'd love to see what they produced

[limpid lichen]

https://civitai.com/models/18840/no-more-color-contamination-read-description

[quartz ravine]

tbh I think I tried this method the other week, and got mixed success.

[oak osprey]

zuckerberg, who is overfitted, can be dressed up as Belle from beauty and the beast, with prompt segmentation only

[quartz ravine]

but I think I read a different tutorial about it, so I can check the steps here and see if there is something subtle I missed

[oak osprey]

you can't really get zuckerberg to do stuff he don't wanna do usually, without segmentation

you probably need a 2.1 based model for this to work properly. i did not have great results in 1.5 and i don't know why

[limpid lichen]

howabout the t2i-adapter for color in controlnet?

you'd have to paint a color map first but it could control where differences should be

[quartz ravine]

I haven't tried it, but if you recommend it I can look into it. I haven't gotten controlnet set up yet

[limpid lichen]

or perhaps make a base image it and reprocess it using that net

it controls where colors on an image go pretty well

[quartz ravine]

Here was one test I was doing, without any special techniques

[calm canopy]

damn even without zooming in i can see the super saturated hues lmao

[oak osprey]

switch your VAE since you're focused on Anime

[limpid lichen]

i actually like the poppy vibrant colors. but yeah that's a vae thing not the prompt issue at hand

[quartz ravine]

yeah in this case, the bright colors are fine (just testing whether I can control robes/scarf separately)

[oak osprey]

oh

[quartz ravine]

(also, hair is green, so naturally it's 3 different colors in the prompt)

[oak osprey]

the base model dictates how well it listens to your prompt to be honest

[quartz ravine]

last week I followed a similar tutorial, and this was the output I got (inconsistent shirt/skirt colors). usually got the shirt right, but the skirt kept changing

another example

[oak osprey]

out of curiosity, what do you do with these images? just wondering why the colours have to be so specific

[quartz ravine]

right now, nothing, but I'm trying to work on a system to create characters with specific color schemes for a game I was thinking of making

And I find it interesting if I can make it reliable, so that I don't have to manually check and re-generate images many times

(because it's a game, bright vibrant colors are fine, and even encouraged, so you can tell characters apart)

[oak osprey]

@hasty nova does game dev with AI assets

[quartz ravine]

yeah I made a board game this year (basically just for friends) using midjourney, and it was fun. So thinking of doing something for the internet that more people can enjoy

[neon crystal]

tingdadengdada

[oak osprey]

sounds like the old movies

[surreal thistle]

So how do I stop them from looking so similar?

In Stable Diffusion 2.1, it seems, every woman has the same face.

[oak osprey]

you mean stabilityai/stable-diffusion-2-1? or a fine-tune?

because i can say with certainty not all 2.1 models are the same in that way. not even close

[surreal thistle]

The SD2.1 model in Playground AI.

[oak osprey]

if that's base 2.1 i can say you have incredibly good results, clean images like that are near unheard of

well i have no idea what they're doing to that model there, haha

[surreal thistle]

There's a filter called "hyperrealism" or something.

I guess it always gives such results.

I'm not complaining, but the faces ARE very similar.

[oak osprey]

makes me wonder if it's a LoRA

[surreal thistle]

At least it can also do a Korean one.

[oak osprey]

i've never heard of Playground AI before. it looks pretty. but probably overly restricts results by pumping through LoRAs and embeds so that you don't get "deformed" results

[surreal thistle]

If you've never heard of it, try it.

[oak osprey]

i don't like giving all these fly-by-night companies my info 😛

[cyan snow]

same. my mindset: if it's not local, I ain't using it

[oak osprey]

yep and it just helps them generate new models using all that data they will never make freely available to others

parasites

like Midjourney is

[cyan snow]

well, that is how SDXL is currently being made, but this time, it goes open-sourced after finished cooking.

[oak osprey]

lmao sdxl crew isn't going to make their dataset available, they never do

it's too much of a liability

[cyan snow]

the model will be

that's the whole point

[oak osprey]

they'll tell us "we used subsets of LAION x, y, and z datasets"

which subsets, we'll not know

you can't qualify a model as open source if you don't get its dataset

that's why OpenAI's CLIP isn't open source...

[cyan snow]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-lonely-sadge-sad-pepe-lonely-pepe-gif-24375295

[oak osprey]

they're just "available weights", not "source-available"

it's a problem for large scale fine-tuning if you can't validate that you're not adding duplicate images it has already seen many times over during the pretraining

[cyan snow]

yeah, i wonder how will finetuning SDXL will work

[oak osprey]

i'm sure most people just want this so they can find out if they can sue SAI

the same as every other model for the most part, but they're promising to actually create tuning tools that are released with it

[cyan snow]

huh, but isn't SDXL going to like, run VERY slowly?

[oak osprey]

it uses UniPC sampler, so, unlikely

[cyan snow]

SAI said the requirements for it will be 12gb vram, which is exponentially higher then last models

[oak osprey]

they're oscillating between 6gb-12gb

i honestly don't care if users on low mem GPUs can run it though 😛

[cyan snow]

so, it will run in the same speed for the most part? that's odd, since it has ~2.5 more parameters than previous models

[oak osprey]

it would be an improvement to the model for it to not run on low vmem cards imo

according to the SDXL devs, focusing on that is causing damage to its ability to generalise

[cyan snow]

still, doesn't that mean less it/s?

[oak osprey]

no

just like any other model, samplers are what really decide how slowly it works

[surreal thistle]

I can’t use it locally because I have literally the weakest laptop.

[cyan snow]

skill issue, i was talking about people like me for the most part.

huh, i just made this with the SDXL bot, and this looks like a VAE problem

[oak osprey]

one of the outputs has odd settings as they're testing stuff

so, if the other image is fine, it's fine.

[cyan snow]

both are like this

[oak osprey]

meanwhile i'm getting better and better results when training on 1920x1080

[oak osprey]

nice

[oak osprey]

looks like they cooked the hell out of the firearms while trying to fix the ability for it to create firearms better

whoops

[cyan snow]

or maybe, that was just my prompt -_-

[subtle ridge]

Hey guys, I've been installing the OpenDiffusion project and it seems to be running, but I can't work out what the internal IP it's using is

anyone know how to find it

[oak osprey]

starting checkpoint -> my progress

less stretched and unnatural looking

[wispy nest]

other than the pants messing with my brain to think it's some sort of flag for some reason. Is the bleached look intentional?

[oak osprey]

idk, look at pictures of mars lmao

the hyper contrasted look was not intentional, if that helps

i prefer mars looking real and washed out. mars in real life looks like total hell

[cyan snow]

so, this will be like how it is with llm's? with llms the only performance change caused with bigger models is that they take way more time to load, generation speed is the same

[oak osprey]

generation speed isn't the same for larger LMs

😛

[cyan snow]

it is, or maybe im trippin'

[oak osprey]

here's another result of that washed-out checkpoint, which has plenty of colour and contrast left

[neon crystal]

Feels like eons ago. My first attempts at making body horror more palatable.

[oak osprey]

the 2nd gal is disappearing lmao

[cyan snow]

water-gun

[smoky oak]

What are you lot up to?

Just got done with a long day on Isle Mujeres in Cancun Mexico

Only very mildly sunburnt, interestingly enough

The uv even here is like nothing compared to where we live lmao

[smoky oak]

Oh Lord, these look like a huge step backwards, what are you doing? Haha

[smoky oak]

Do I smell regional prompting?

It looks like it

[quartz ravine]

we were talking about regional prompting earlier, have you tried it? what was your results

[wispy nest]

I just finished "a couple" portrait tests. And now it's time to go to bed before I fall a—💤

[sterile temple]

i'm trying to wake up and start my paid job

[smoky oak]

I have messed with it, and found some workflows that have yeiled good results

I have used it for anthro/digital art, and for realistic images

Realistic images are way harder as there is really no way to get them to look realistic out of the box

[steel apex]

That is so cool.

[steel apex]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

[smoky oak]

As you can see here, this is what realistic images look like right out of regional prompter, and they are notttt pretty

Not too sure why it nukes realism, but it sure does

After some correction and a small workflow, it got this tho

So yeah, it can be useful, but it can also be very limited

[dense tapir]

No, though I am interested in that extension. At first I thought it was regional as in dialect non ENglish so never touched it.

[smoky oak]

Ahhhh lol

[dense tapir]

Still not 100% sure what it is just a general idea that region means a region on the screen.

[smoky oak]

Yeah

So there are different ways to use it, attention, and latent

Haven't been able to get anything not trash out of latent lmao

[dense tapir]

I don't think it works for 2.1 though

[smoky oak]

Wouldn't be surprised

2.1 is kinda abandoned for all the cool things

Its kinda become the bastard version

Few people want it, few people use it

And this, few people work on it

*thus

[tight turret]

hey guys.. i have a problem. I am really new to this. I am trying to do a composition which a tribal girl jumping on a big bear. I rendered images seperate then bashed it at photoshop and tried to render again to weld them all in.. but no matter what i do it looks awful..

this is the best result i got.. using image to image and softedges.. any ideas?

[oak osprey]

it just doesn't need those things like 1.5 does... 🙂

also, people pay to use 2.1 on BlueWillow v4

[dense tapir]

Makes me want it even more. 1.5 just never did it for me and still doesn't from what I have seen of the photo real images. I bet you SDXL is not going to go the way people think solely based on how much vram it will require then the tools for it too. I can only imagine control net with it. Of course the original author of it wants nothing to do with the new clip so might not even be made.

[oak osprey]

do you get bored and then just have to login to discord to complain about 2.1 or something

[echo mountain]

what is a good model for celebrities?

[tight turret]

realisticvision and a nicely done Lora

[echo mountain]

what gui should i use im using makeayo rn is that okay?

[oak osprey]

the base 1.5 isn't good enough at them?

😛

[sterile temple]

play around with different schedulers and noise levels, it might change the image to something similar but a lot better looking. you can add the new image as a layer over the old and then erase the parts on the new image you don't like

[tight turret]

will try.. ty

[echo mountain]

where do i get checkpoints?

[sterile temple]

huggingface and civitai

[oak osprey]

civitai, home to the worst shit on the internet

[echo mountain]

civi gave me a safetensors?

[sterile temple]

yes

[echo mountain]

is that fine?

[untold zodiac]

observe

freddy fazbear

[sterile temple]

the preferred file type

[echo mountain]

where do I put extras?

[sterile temple]

what's an extra?

[echo mountain]

idk something in makeayo

but ive switched to a1111

now

its like pictures that the ai follows to more accurately represent something

i think

[smoky oak]

The devs for SDXL already confirmed that you can generate 2048 X 2048 images on 8 gigs of VRAM

[echo mountain]

its textual inversions

or embedding

i found it

[dense tapir]

I will believe it when I see it as I believe nothing they have to say. Once burned twice shy.

[wispy nest]

whens its eta? like october someone said or was tha tjust a guess here

[dense tapir]

Thing is how hard will it be to train on it? As someone told me, and I concur, if it can't be trained on then they don't want it.

The preview I saw of SDXL was not all that good so my hope is it is really great when released AND we can train on it as easy as 1.5.

[sterile temple]

The latest gens coming from the bot look really good for a base model

[echo mountain]

where can u find good prompts?

[dense tapir]

I don't wander into those now and just wait until released

[oak osprey]

scientists: "AI is dangerous"
me: "yeah right"
AI:

fuckin text encoder is drunk

i don't understand waht happened to the woman on the right side

is that a visor hat?

[echo mountain]

whats codeformer?

[oak osprey]

a face detection and fixer

[echo mountain]

ahhh

[oak osprey]

it's kinda bad at it

it can correct minor issues

[echo mountain]

im just messing with settings and was wondering why it stopped at 98% lol

[smoky oak]

My guess is august-september

[echo mountain]

but i turned the face thing on

[oak osprey]

if they plan on doing all the things they said they would, october is optimistic

Emad keeps counting down from 5, today is 4, on his Twitter. he's being cryptic. it's probably because the thing being released is DeepFloyd's stage 3, and he knows no one really has interest in DeepFloyd anymore, other than researchers 😛

if it's as good as the dog photo he posted today shows though, i don't care much about SDXL's release window, DeepFloyd-IF will be plenty of fun

[echo mountain]

For loras do I need to create a lora folder?

[static tusk]

they will just release it unfinished is my guess

as its meant to be a stepping stone to 3.0

[echo mountain]

diffrence between batch count and size?

[oak osprey]

well, it's working pretty damn well now. all of the duplicates seem to be disappearing from my validation prompts

[echo mountain]

where is clip skip on A1111

[oak osprey]

it's so damn weird to not see multiples and multiples

[sterile temple]

settings > stable diffusion

[oak osprey]

feels like i'm about to get insulted by this android

[echo mountain]

ty

[oak osprey]

ok god damn that's so good

[smoky oak]

@oak osprey I really hope that Deepfloyd gets better, cause as is, it's roughhhh

[oak osprey]

why did no one tell me to train on 1080p before lmao

[oak osprey]

i was looking at it with some of the other sdxl testers and it really seems like once that stage 3 upscaler is out, the whole world changes

you can use deep floyd's stage 3 upscaler with 1.5

it takes 512x512 to 1024x1024 (or non-square images)

[smoky oak]

Interesting

Tho I think I would prefer all of the benefits of not doing that

[dense tapir]

I am now afraid to buy a 4090 for any model.

[smoky oak]

Tho it will be interesting to see if stage 3 can fix the nightmare that is stage 2, cause stage 2 looks dreadfully bad

[dense tapir]

The connector is bad and even with cable mod burning up.

Jayz2Cents showed the issue and I can't believe they did it that way with that much current.

[static tusk]

cablemod concluded is was a pebkac issue

[dense tapir]

Nope, they did not

[smoky oak]

I'm pretty sure they did. It's been a problem since 3000, you need to seat it properly

[dense tapir]

Jayz just said what the conclussion is and damn nice of Cablemod to do what they are doing.

[static tusk]

did you watch j2c video a few hours ago?

[dense tapir]

an hour ago, yeah

even when snapped that damn wiggle

all because they used 1 clip instead of two (one on each side) or like cars use where the clips are wide

[static tusk]

still requires some force pulling it away from the connector its not just wiggle

[dense tapir]

On a car connector you get zero wiggle once it snaps

was for jay

[static tusk]

you can see jay's fingers pulling on it to get it to wiggle

[dense tapir]

which is emulating the force of the cable. Remember that cable is heavy going to it so exerts force. I am sure they will fix this with a new standard a V2

all it takes is to have a wider clip or two and done

[smoky oak]

Pretty sure I remember this same thing with the same connector on the 3000 series, and people realized you just have to not be inept lol

[static tusk]

its a skill issue

[dense tapir]

It is the amount of juice causing it so you can't be as "inept".

[smoky oak]

I abused the hell out of mine and never had any issues

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak 😮 😮 😮

[smoky oak]

Nice

[oak osprey]

his eyes aren't even shit

i had an issue with my sampler betas code 😦

[dense tapir]

It is only the 4090 having this issue because of how much power it is pulling, and as Jay said a 4080 or less will never see a melting connector.

[oak osprey]

all good now

but the contrast was improving to a point and then got stuck

now it seems to have received a punch to the face, in a good way

[smoky oak]

Leezord

[oak osprey]

this was coming out as a car wreck before the contrast fix

literally

two different cars all wrecked the fuck up

well, i've been training it on widescreen at the same time

so i'm not sure which fixed that part

[dense tapir]

I know some idiots I read have their 4090 and the cable comes out and they have to force shut their side glass panel. Yeah, buy a new case at that point or get ready.

[oak osprey]

Sytan how long til the widescreen training splits this family up? it already removed like 3 children

[smoky oak]

As cool as the 1080+ base gens are, I still don't see any reason to use them personally

[oak osprey]

this is 1280x720

[smoky oak]

Regardless, not sure I see a benefit

[oak osprey]

zero shot widescreen image gen without duplicates? lol it's awesome

[smoky oak]

I can already do that on my own, so IDK

Again, I see no benefits in generating over normal base res

Although, I could see a benefit for upscaling maybe

[oak osprey]

i mean, it lets you do hires fix better if the model is aware of high res gens 😛

hires

[oak osprey]

oh weird, the "group of 4 handsome men" prompt now just shows four men

well that's a benefit 😄

apparently you can only get that if you train the text encoder and the unet on high res

equivalent image from training only the unet on frozen text encoder

jeez louise

[wispy nest]

just catching up a little, interesting emads doing a countdown i guess. hopefully something cool at the end of it and not just an announcement

[solid gate]

If I already have the voice, how do I pass it to an avatar and have its lips follow the voice? is it made with AI? What tool?

[oak osprey]

deforum

[smoky oak]

That's just a single generated image with some animated eyes and and a mouth on top with extremely rudimentary warp framing

[solid gate]

Yeap but what ai for the lip movement with voice

[oak osprey]

sweet extreme bokeh olympics fuck

fart noises

don't forget to apply your shrek butter before bed.

[cyan snow]

HiRk Jark

[open sun]

just dropped an update to my model training guide ppl - "STYLE TRAINING [precision method]" - https://civitai.com/articles/397 take a look and feel free to ask the questions.

[dense tapir]

Too bad for 1.5 as that never gives me trouble to train in.

[wild sorrel]

skill issue

[paper geyser]

tried over 100 images, still no text on it

[sterile temple]

pew pew

[heady brook]

can i make this guys face as a marathon runner?

like this picture but with his face

[cyan snow]

dude, i swear i saw this gun in Splatoon

[oak osprey]

lol getting there

[smoky oak]

That's not bokeh, that's blur 😅

Extreme blur Olympics

[shut sinew]

@echo mountain

[oak osprey]

😁

it's brokehn

i can do a single dove in the desert now though

the bokeh was because i asked for it a lot in the prompt

[oak osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mhk252Zqm8

me, defending my obsession with model training to my colleagues

my masterpiece

[wispy ether]

ong ong fr

[oak osprey]

found on a camera in the woods in the swiss alps

[smoky oak]

Oh my God lmfakoo

[smoky oak]

These images all look a litttleee crunchy on the contrast, is that what you meant by cooked contrast?

[cyan snow]

honestly, looks like a VAE issue, but it's probably because of CFG scale

[smoky oak]

Other than that, they look phenomenal for 2.1 images

[cyan snow]

high CFG scale tends to look overcooked, i bet that's what's causing that

[oak osprey]

yeah it's not good

[oak osprey]

the darks aren't black anymore, same issue SDXL was having a week or so back

[smoky oak]

Not that, the contrast in general just looks over deiven

*driven

[oak osprey]

i adjusted my training data and my aspect bucketing code shit the bed and i realised ohh i had a pretty big issue with how i was doing the cache so.. i can't really get a new ckpt just yet

[cyan snow]

SDXL is pretty much a masterpiece, do y'all think it will release in 5 days?

[oak osprey]

well the contrast being over-driven is a result of the issue with the blacks not being black

the overall image darkness is averaged to gray

[smoky oak]

What happened to you using SNR?

[oak osprey]

there were code changes and it broke apparently

[smoky oak]

Ahhh

[crimson goblet]

can I try sdxl in any way?

[cyan snow]

#1100170312106127410

[smoky oak]

The bots, but it's not a very good experience

[cyan snow]

it's a similar concept to MJ, many people like that interface

but yeah, something might happen in 5 days, last time Emad tweeted numbers was that number amount of days before a release, so, who knows, maybe we could start finetuning SDXL very soon

[wispy nest]

needing a dev level opinion, any reason why the command line --medvram is slower than --lowvram?

embarrassing question, but how do I change the directory in Git Cmd? Like if I wanna put stable or auto my on my d drive

everything I try is messed up and even after googling it im funking up lol

like i have c:\users\chazzy right now and i wanna just make it on my d:

type D:

and hit enter

lol damn

[smoky oak]

A yeah, but the bot experience for SDXL is massively less good than MJ.

[wispy nest]

MJ is blowing me away. I splurged for a sub last week. The lighting it does on photoreal is pretty wild

[wispy nest]

leverage on google Bard, you'll be surprised

I also love how you can toss a bunch of images at MJ and get some cool results

[smoky oak]

I have still yet to see anything too impressive from it

The only thing we're I was impressed was the way it can do photos of people behind glass, and that's about it

[wispy nest]

i feel that way about stable tbh. it all looks kinda plastic-y same vibe on XL from what I played with. idk MJ photoreal just looks incredible imo

[smoky oak]

MJ photo real looks like decent prompting in 1.5 IMO

[wispy nest]

but I hate the cost and discord view. I couldnt disagree more but fair enough

[smoky oak]

I can pretty easily match their realism, and surpass in some cases

If you have some I ages to share, I would love to take a look

[wispy nest]

maybe when I get back home tonight

[smoky oak]

I am always open to being proven wrong, but it's happened very few times in regards to MJ quality, personally

[oak osprey]

yeah i noticed it happening but was wondering if it would resolve itself

[smoky oak]

That's a fair assumption haha. SD stuff seems to not work until it works lmao

[oak osprey]

i adjusted my training data and i was caching aspect buckets by numeric index rather than a full string path, so, deleting one file just made the whole thing become useless. i also tripled my training dataset size and now it's taking 4 hours to cache the aspect buckets

sooo it'll be a while til i see the fruits of the labour but now it'll be more robust to me fucking around unnecessarily, as i do like to do that

[smoky oak]

Best of luck!

Chaz has me interested in these photo realistic MJ claims lol

I have yet to see anything but a hand full of images where MJ looked better than SD IMO

[wispy nest]

well i mean theres gonna be the fanboy angle here, mentioning mj always gets peoples ire up lol

[smoky oak]

I honestly could take give any shits about MJ anymore

Show me a good image, then it's a good inage

[wispy nest]

and have you used 5.1?

[smoky oak]

Nope, but I have had plenty of people try to convince me it's way better than all the other times 😅

Specifically when 5.0 came out, Sen was blowing smoke up our asses saying how amazing it was lmao

[oak osprey]

5.1 is magic but it's not real

[smoky oak]

Until we came together and handily outperformed it

[wispy nest]

i mean sound like you got your mind made up

show me some of the killer photoreals youve done that blow away mj

[oak osprey]

chaz i have like 38,000 MJ 5.1 photos in my training set and i love it but i know it sucks

[wispy nest]

so does sd, its why i dont even use it anymore

im not saying eithe ris perfect, but to my eyes MJ blows away sd

[smoky oak]

If I did, I wouldn't be asking for more chances to prove me wrong. I'm not gonna say that it's bad just cause it's MJ, but MJ has some fundamental issues in the way it does things that just irk me

[oak osprey]

true, MJ has surface level aesthetics out the wazoo, out of the box

[wispy nest]

like obviously the options are greater for auto or whatever but for a pure prompt to fool my eyes, id go with mj everytime

[oak osprey]

but zoom in and it's trash, like this flying burger photo i have in my training data where the airplane windows are like what the fuck, hardly matched up watercolour quality... and it often doesn't follow the prompt given

[smoky oak]

There have been some MJ images where I couldn't say anything reasonably bad, to which I was surprised and said so

[smoky oak]

I could totally see that for other aspects of V5, but it's realism still feels decently behind in a lot of ways

[wispy nest]

aite

[oak osprey]

this is the kind of stuff MJ gives people when they ask for photoreal

[wispy nest]

you must have it on the anime setting

[smoky oak]

Yeah, and it looks great, but it's clearly not realistic

I have even seen the specific photo real style, to which I still don't see it, personally

[oak osprey]

i don't have it on any setting, i have thousands and thousands of raw outputs with the full image settings

[wispy nest]

when i start with 35mm color photograh or 85mm ive never gotten anything like that myself so idk

[oak osprey]

random sample of MJ images and their prompts are their filenames

[smoky oak]

Like these images, they look carbon copied from like realistic vision V1.3 lol

[oak osprey]

that lower left green robot one is actually blurry

in fact, blurry describes most MJ images

[wispy nest]

alrighty

sorry i brought it up lol

i knew it would trigger people and i shouldnt have said anything

[oak osprey]

i mean, i still use it as training data

but it has major issues

[smoky oak]

Chaz, we aren't triggered, this is just a conversation ._.

[wispy nest]

idk dude you seem pretty passive aggressive to me

[oak osprey]

i was looking for the images from it that i loved

[smoky oak]

What have I said that could have been taken passive aggressive lmao

[wispy nest]

right

[smoky oak]

All I said is please, show me some images and I'll see if I agree or not, that's basically it

[wispy nest]

anyway, enjoy your stable images

[oak osprey]

Sytan just has resting asshole tone 😛 they mean nothing personal by it

[wispy nest]

as if id show you anythign now lol

[smoky oak]

And now you're going to choose to share nothing, and my opinions are gonna stay the same, oh well

[oak osprey]

guys

[wispy nest]

thats fine, i dont really care, it was just an off hand comment

to start

[oak osprey]

here it is

11 year old mick jagger dancing in a club

[smoky oak]

People make big claims about alternative platforms, and I would really like to see images matching their claims, that's all

[oak osprey]

that image is awesome

[smoky oak]

Images like this are some of the headline images for MJ 5.1's photo realistic capabilities, and I think they look pretty bad, personally

[oak osprey]

pixel art too but who uses that, honestly

[smoky oak]

Over processed, digital art esque, bad lighting

[smoky oak]

When I do pixel art, I gen normal images and then use the pixelizer plugin haha

It does a fantastic job

[oak osprey]

i think they look hardly any different from usual marketing materials, which is what it was trained on. overprocessed over-photoshopped images

[smoky oak]

Fair I suppose

Some of the pixel aesthetic images I have done

[oak osprey]

yeah you won't get like, raw looking images out of MJ

that's not the goal of it

they try to avoid that, if anything

[smoky oak]

Yeah, they look like people put through face tune lol

[oak osprey]

wouldn't be surprised if they fine-tuned GPFGAN on marketing images

or other tricks

[smoky oak]

One thing that I have noticed about portraits in mid journey is that they are always extremely shallow depth of field

Like, you only get detail on a very small plane of the face, and the rest of it is just a blurry mass

Which truth be told, is an aesthetic, and it is something that actually happens when you take extremely fast portraits, but it seems like a mid journey defaults to that always

It's like photo realism in midjourney is synonymous with having a small patch of fine detail, and everything else completely out of focus

Actually, you know what, I wish I had an MJ subscription so I could compare photo realistic animals, now that would be fun

[oak osprey]

this is what happens when it tries to make a black background right now in my model

[smoky oak]

Ohhhh lord lol

[oak osprey]

that's what i'm referring to when i say, yeah, the contrast is just GONNA BE BAD in general

even when the image is otherwise good, its details are compromised due to the contrast issue as well

[smoky oak]

Alright, in that case I can overlook that as a temporary issue, to which your images once again look the best I have ever seen from a 2.1 model

[oak osprey]

LMAO you're too kind

i made you a thank you cart

card*

i cherry picked the worst one lmfao

[smoky oak]

:C

So mean!

lol

[oak osprey]

going in deep without negatives enters you into the domain of weird shit

i want to try to get it to make a horse with an aftermarket wide body kit installed but i'm also afraid to see the results

portrait images are so chronically undertrained that it's just stupid looking sometimes

[smoky oak]

Lmao

[oak osprey]

i kinda like that actually

it should be the logo for some shitty corporation that pretends to be moving forward while really looking backward

[smoky oak]

Lmao

[sterile vapor]

I asked in prompt help, but could anyone help me out with the ai GIVING ME LEGS WHEN I SAID SPECIFICALLY NO LEGS

[smoky oak]

I'm gonna fool around with some photo realistic big cats, cause I have been focusing on hot big cats, rather than real big cats for a while : sweat

[sterile vapor]

It looks nice and all, AI, BUT NOPE, STILL HAS LEGS

[oak osprey]

do an astronaut tiger

[smoky oak]

You just want like... Her legs chopped off?

[smoky oak]

I could with the furry model, but for realism I am going for realistic images lol

[sterile vapor]

nmo

aiming for this

squid legs

img-img don't help either

[oak osprey]

bro i can jam a tiger into an astronaut suit in real life. promise. all i need is a bucket of thorazine, some meat scraps, and a sewing kit. if we can get Olivia Newton John into those leather pants for Grease, we can do this for a tiger

don't make me make another one

it went a little heavy on the 1977 but i love the tiger ears on the outside of the helmet. that is a nice touch

[sterile vapor]

I feel anger and confusion

especially since I had centaurs work so well all day

[oak osprey]

this one really phoned it in lmfao

like i do not have time for your shit today

it did some wish.com tiger woods

[smoky oak]

Please, does anybody know how to disable the stupid fucken pull down to refresh on chrome mobile?

[oak osprey]

you can probably make it pull up to refresh

[smoky oak]

It keeps ruining all of my gens by reloading in the middle

[oak osprey]

i switched to vivaldi mobile recently as it does background youtube for free

has more customizability, the built in one is ♻️

[smoky oak]

I will probably need to switch back to firefox

[oak osprey]

do it

send a message

[smoky oak]

Chrome mobile is pissing me the fuck off man

If I leave the app for more than 10 seconds, it reloads the webpage

[oak osprey]

put your phone in landscape mode

it won't fix any of the issues but overall i find it more pleasant to use

[smoky oak]

Then typing is a nightmare 😅

[sterile vapor]

it's still making legs

[smoky oak]

Idk what you want bro

[sterile vapor]

I posted what I want above

squid legs

[smoky oak]

Best of luck, not likely to do it

[sterile vapor]

tentacle legs?

legtacles?

[smoky oak]

Tentaclegs

I really don't wanna switch to Firefox mobile

It's its own can of worms

[oak osprey]

"Tony, I don't know how to tell you this, but you've got cataracts, you're severely overweight, and you have diabetes. It's gotta be the years of sugar frosted flakes."

🐯 "But they're greeeeeaaaaa--"

"Nope, don't say it, Tony. This is serious."

[smoky oak]

Alright, guess I have no choice but to go back to Firefox and play it's not as shit as last time

[oak osprey]

its like the more contrast the damn thing wants to make the worse off the image gon' be

[sterile vapor]

[oak osprey]

must be confusing to the model to see reflections in visors like that during training

[smoky oak]

Firefox has the same stupid ass pull down to reload thing