🏞｜general-with-images

[sterile temple]

lol same, and get chatgpt to create the prompts 😄

althought i had to think of the prompt to create the prompts

[wispy nest]

I also added every wildcard as a finished __wildcard-name__ "style" in auto1111's webui "style" foldout. for quicker access :P

[smoky oak]

Very smart :p

Tho I will have like 100+, which I feel like will be slower haha

[wispy nest]

and if you want to be extra lazy:
Add all the wildcards.txt files you want into a folder. Then open the CMD and go to the folder with the wildcards and then write dir /b > files.txt
It will then create a new text file named files.txt with the name of each file in that folder. Each wildcard.txt in this case and then you can, with the help of VSC edit them into their true __wildcard-name__ form :D

too bad a wildcard can't include a wildcard call to run though :(

[sterile temple]

is there an extension for managing your styles?

[wispy nest]

yeah, I think so, but can't remember the name

[undone flare]

anyone has used Controlnet for scannable barcode anyone have any idea about it? https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/141hg9x/controlnet_for_qr_code/

[sterile temple]

why would you need a controlnet? couldn't you just use the qr code as a mask?

[shut sinew]

Someone else did it without an own controlnet model but i cant replicate what he did so far and from the comments it looks like no one else did either
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1436nqv/my_attempt_on_qr_code/

[smoky oak]

wait a sec-

are we supposed to make a folder there?

[sterile temple]

I just put all the text files into that folder

after you install the extension it should be there

[smoky oak]

ok, so you make a folder called wildcards?

cause there is no wildcards folder for me natively

[sterile temple]

did you install the dynamic prompts extension?

[smoky oak]

yeah

[kind quartz]

there is that folder.
stable-diffusion-webui\extensions\sd-dynamic-prompts

[shut sinew]

In the tab for the extension you can download some pre-made wildcards, that should make a folder

[sterile temple]

go back one

[shut sinew]

There should be one

If not make one

[sterile temple]

create one in that folder

[smoky oak]

in which one?

ok, in the second one, cool

[shut sinew]

With those

[smoky oak]

just "wildcards"?

[sterile temple]

yes

[tropic shell]

I'm assuming there was a spammer

[smoky oak]

2 of them, sending scam links, racism, and generally disgusting images and gifs

[smoky oak]

thank youuuu <3

[tropic shell]

Oh, goodie!

[smoky oak]

your guys' help is massively appreciated

looking forward to playing with this haha

[sterile temple]

no problemo

[smoky oak]

last question, can I have a folder structure? or do I need to have every text file accessible inside the first level of the folder?

[wispy nest]

in the normal wildcard's one, then yes, it will find wildcards in folders...wait... does it really or am I thinking of something else now 🤔

just try it, if it doesn't work, then you can read in the console that it didn't find a wildcard with that name

[smoky oak]

yeah, fair haha

[sterile temple]

__test/ingredient__

[smoky oak]

alright, lets see if I can do this

[wispy nest]

I made a name structure instead of a folder structure so I could easier see all the wildcards without having to go back and forth inside folders.

[smoky oak]

alright yeah, so this wildcard system they give with this model has 217 individual wildcards

[tropic shell]

That looks like Utah, haha

Also, I have not played with wildcards yet. I should. Probably. I was thinking about it.

[smoky oak]

do you need to add .txt?

[tropic shell]

Most of the things I make are made with my own research/knowledge

[smoky oak]

oh its working!

:OOOO

oh this is gonna be amazing haha

[kind quartz]

what i dont like is how it spam cmd, or is it only me when Webui is starting?

[wispy nest]

spam? What's that? ;P

[smoky oak]

does it to me too lol

i thought everything died

[kind quartz]

i mean polute or how in english

[smoky oak]

pollute

[sterile temple]

don't look behind the curtain

[smoky oak]

oh sicckkk, it does a different species each time when you do batch sizes

any way to make it do the same tag for one batch?

[sterile temple]

I don't use batches so, I dunno

[wispy nest]

I just closed mine because there are some workers outside setting up scaffolding to fix the roof. How did you know?!

[smoky oak]

sunny, was that your attempt at red shoes? lol

[wispy nest]

go to settings -> wildcards
It's the only setting there :P

[tropic shell]

Maybe he's the one on the roof

[wispy nest]

as long as he know what he's doing, then it's all fine and good and fine :P

[smoky oak]

oh, for me its under dynamic prompting, and there are several settings

oh well lol

[wispy nest]

but if he tries to steal my precious prompts then I will...not do that much actually because I don't mind it nor am I brave enough to fight anyone! :P

[wispy nest]

nice, I might need to re-enable the dynamic prompt, I'm just using the default one because the dynamic one broke about...6 months ago... hm, maybe that's enough time for a fix? :P

[sterile temple]

we all know when they finally kiss, it's usually on the roof

[wispy nest]

the roof that's coming off? ... that sounded differently from what I wanted it to

[smoky oak]

wow, this model is now generating species I have never even seen!

[tropic shell]

This took a dynamic turn. Sounds like we are now in a construction romance movie, a Tale Of Two Shingles, where two rival companies finally set aside their differences 🍿

[sterile temple]

yeah i'd probably watch that

[smoky oak]

Kobold, aardwolf, kemonoko, old english sheep dog, sisu dragon, rat, potoo owl, spotted hyena, and asriel dreemurr lmao

its a mixture of species and specific characters it seems

[tropic shell]

Oh heck yeah!

[sterile temple]

what about a kangodile wearing green sequin overalls

[tropic shell]

I love doing different species

Awwh! That is 110% adorable

[smoky oak]

"Hot and ready shingles in your areai, just looking to get nailed down and plastered!"

||I am so sorry, I had to||

[tropic shell]

Shingles in your area.

[smoky oak]

I missed the G

[tropic shell]

You know, the back of my head made that joke

About shingles = singles

[wispy nest]

such a gutter joke

[tropic shell]

And how many obnoxious ads there were in the 1990's

Better get those gutters cleaned!

[smoky oak]

in the 1990's????? Still 100% a thing today lmao

[tropic shell]

Not if you practice...AD BLOCKING

laughs

[smoky oak]

great horned owl, albatross, lucario, riolu, flamingo, nick wilde, least weasel, nergigante, artic rabbit

[tropic shell]

There's a certain bright, flashy aesthetic about the 1990's that hurt your soul.

I love the flamingo

[smoky oak]

I wasn't even around last century

Imagine being from last MILLENIA

[tropic shell]

Yes, I am but an old, withering lady hahahaha

[smoky oak]

AYOOO

IT HAS ROXANNE WOLF LMAO

it made her male cause of my prompt lmfao

[wispy nest]

and I'm older than the Chernobyl accident... y-yay?

[tropic shell]

I can see a lot of the influences of certain artists.

[tropic shell]

I remember that on TV

[smoky oak]

bear, hare, worgen, sheepdog, roxanne wolf, MLP pony, spyro, dusk lycanroc, akita

it knows so many species lol

[tropic shell]

You know, she looks like she is on a metal band cover, so we are good.

[wispy nest]

didn't have access to those luxery things then :P

[smoky oak]

and this is just the cut list. It has a whole seperate wildcard for every single pokemon, and most digimon lol

anybody here old enough to remember when the world was black and white?

[tropic shell]

Rip. I was very young, and didn't understand what was happening, only that it was huge

[wispy nest]

yes, most of my old phots are black and white because it was cheaper. And I also remember having a rotary phone...also a landline phone for that matter! :P

[sterile temple]

super long curly cord for the phone handset

[smoky oak]

ring-tailed cat, yeti, wooly demon, sawsbuck, alaskan malamute, procyonid, dinosaur, retriever, valstrax

these species are so cool

[wispy nest]

gonna be honest and say I was just over one year old when it happened, but still it's technically true! :P

[tropic shell]

Black and white movies are interesting to watch. There's also radio dramas, audio books, etc, in the public domain that can be fascinating, and great sources of inspiration

[tropic shell]

Rotary phones are too fun

[smoky oak]

BORINNNGGGG

Now I can AI generate radio dramas :p

which is... kinda crazy to think about-

[tropic shell]

Omg I love them. And they kinda look like fursuits haha

[sterile temple]

hamster cyndi laupers

[tropic shell]

That gets tangled in everything, including yourself, but it's great for your hands.

[wispy nest]

I remember having one of those 20 seconds shake-backup cd players. I never had cassettes as I didn't start listening to much music before my teen years

[smoky oak]

"Stop talking grandpa, the SyNtHeSiZeD cOnCiOuS iS sPeAkInG"

[tropic shell]

I've done that

At least the scripts

Pretty fun

[smoky oak]

help, my furniture is floating now!

[tropic shell]

HAMSTER LARPING is the new hamster dance

[smoky oak]

WAIT

[sterile temple]

dabidi ba didi dou dou

[smoky oak]

HAMSTER BOYS

[smoky oak]

why did I read like like Axel F I'm blue

[cyan snow]

The Caretaker- Everywhere At The End Of Time

[sterile temple]

yo listen up

[tropic shell]

We did the whole record player thing. My grandma had one, too, so every time we were over, she'd bring out her record collection and play while we were over. I can't say when I got into cassettes, but it was very limited. Sound generation is fascinating, and with Harmon, the ability to create more sounds, and music--It's fascinating for sure.

[smoky oak]

I made a LoRA for Na'vi lol

[tropic shell]

Love the clocks and aesthetic

listens up Yessss?

[smoky oak]

so proud of how it came out

[wispy nest]

learning all the new things are so hard sometimes. I was like 27 when I used a mobile phone for the first time because I didn't see a point.
AND I also thought that mobile phones would vanish as one of those "trendy" things...yeah...

[cyan snow]

well, it didn't get the idea, The Caretaker is an album about an illness

but yeah pretty cool

[sterile temple]

i'm blue

[smoky oak]

skidwurd

[wispy nest]

yes, I did the sound effects in my head as well :P

[tropic shell]

You know, the first mobile phone I had was a big chonky one, with a green screen. It was like a BRICK. Not a Nokia, but this thing was massive. It was my dad's old work phone, which had roaming, so its antennae was from a bygone era. It's kind of hilarious.

[sterile temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM5DWw3J4BI just in case @smoky oak doesn't know what we are talking about

[smoky oak]

I am stupid, blue is by eiffel 65, not axel f lmao

[wispy nest]

my grandpa had one of those, or a bigger(?) version you had in your car.
I switched to one of those touch screen phones 2 years ago, never had one before that

[tropic shell]

The thing I love the most about AI is just tying really old stuff with new stuff. You know, throwing a record player into a space suit kind of stuff.

[smoky oak]

also, flume is goated

I have one of his demo sample packs

[tropic shell]

Ah, illness, my friend

Sounds familiar--the Album

[sterile temple]

I still remember when he won like triple j unearthed high or something, just a scrawny teenager

[tropic shell]

I can't unhear that song, y'know

[cyan snow]

dementia, that album is the most horrific shit i heard

[tropic shell]

Also, IM LIVING IN A BUBBLE

[wispy nest]

I can't unhear all the sawing, and drilling, and stomping, and shouting, and tossing before breaking. This, and the next week, will be so, sooo much fun

[tropic shell]

Dementia is a sad thing--it's hard to watch someone go through it

[cyan snow]

yeah, it's even more horrific when you have an 80% chance of getting it when you get older..

[tropic shell]

Those car things were massive. But, you know, now that I think on it, they'rd prolly not as annoying as how they used to make stick shifts.

[sterile temple]

my sister's first car was an old volvo. that had a car phone

[wispy nest]

The best thing about forgetting something is that you won't remember it
I know, because I might have a bad memory but at least I don't have a bad memory

[tropic shell]

It's strange and confusing for everyone watching, at first. My last living older relative was just diagnosed with it. But, that is why we enjoy what we have now, eh? Time is precious.

[tropic shell]

That's like my ADHD talking right there hahaha

Also, I didn't get a smart phone til like..........2012? I think? Lol

[cyan snow]

actually in dementia, it's really common when going to the post-awareness stages to have PTSD, most of my family had it.

[tropic shell]

Yeah, they can.

[wispy nest]

no one in my closest family have/had it, it's more cancer here... :(

[sterile temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLcXIrTwPUM @smoky oak flume covering another aussie goat

[tropic shell]

I figure if anything happens to me, it is only par for the course 🥂 😎

So, enjoy life--it's beautiful!

[cyan snow]

for me it's almost ALL my family when getting older get alzhimer's. so for me it's very likely to get it when older =[

[wispy nest]

yeah, who'd want to live forever anyway? The older one get, the more life turns from going to bed to wake up. While later it's waking up so you can sleep later :P

[sterile temple]

make sure to keep up your B12, especially if you're vegan/vegetarian

[tropic shell]

I wake up, shove all the pills in my face, then go back to sleep LOL

Vitamin D as well

Surprisingly easy to be deficitient in

[wispy nest]

sleeping is one of my greatest skills! Eating is also up there.

[sterile temple]

lol I have like a 4 course vitamin meal in the morning

[tropic shell]

Mmm...vitamins

Tasty

Lol

[oak osprey]

sunny your pfp is the best

[tropic shell]

That's the future, isn't it? Just a meal made of vitamins. Or you take the pill, and the water, and BAM! MEAL!

Also, ty!

[wispy nest]

does coffee count as vitamins? if yes, then yeah, I also have them. If no... then no... :O

[sterile temple]

there might be minerals in the water, so I say that counts

[wispy nest]

in the end, we only drink two types of liquid.
Water, and dirty water

[cyan snow]

yeah, there is NO such thing as pure H2O, nothing can be 100% pure.

[sterile temple]

have you had your morning brown?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1gwkJP64xU

[tropic shell]

If it's hard water, there's plenty of minerals lol

[cyan snow]

yep, just the fact that the water is not vacuumed means it has plenty of minerals, even distilled water from the biggest chemistry labs isn't 100% pure.

[tropic shell]

Indeed. I've lived in a lot of places, with a lot of different...shall we say taste instead of quality? For water? Well water, sanitation, etc.

[sterile temple]

ooo nom noms!

[shut sinew]

Doesnt look healthy

[sterile temple]

well time for me to go to bed. the quicker I get to sleep the quicker I can wake up and take more vitamins!

[tropic shell]

Those are beautifully huge 🤣

Rest well, Mikey!

[sterile temple]

oooooh what a beautiful morning! 🎶

ok gnite 😂

[shut sinew]

Im trying abstract stuff right now, but its not as crazy as i want it to be yet

[cyan snow]

yeah she's gonna rest for a long ass time after that

[tropic shell]

I love the second one

[cyan snow]

jesus. litteraly..

bro's walking on water

[tropic shell]

The placement of the plants is great and the pose is just, "Whatchu gonna do about it?"

[shut sinew]

Deal with it

[tropic shell]

pose

[shut sinew]

Getting somewhere

[tropic shell]

I love the swimming fish.

in front of the pocket, like he has a pocket fish friend

[shut sinew]

Its def abstract

[tropic shell]

person in a bubble, fish in a bubble

in the air, who can say!?

[tropic shell]

love the colors and moon/mood; very powerful. The clouds are great--such sweeping motions.

[cyan snow]

thank m8

[tropic shell]

np

[shut sinew]

got more for you

[tropic shell]

Ooooooo! Kind of like a space helmet, but softer aesthetic. I love all the little diffused light/bubbles coming to the surface.

Her expression, though :[

[shut sinew]

I mean i wouldnt be happy either in this position

[tropic shell]

Maybe she has gills.

[shut sinew]

I also really like this one, came out with a frame too

[tropic shell]

Ohhh, yes, I like. It's got a vintage but also sleek design to it at the same time. A classic, nostalgic feeling.

[haughty anvil]

imagine adding hat to negative prompt puts a beanie, then beanie to helmet

[wispy nest]

because just because the definition of a beanie being also a hat type, the ai might not think the same as the dictionary :P

and headwear is the over-arching term I believe for "stuff on your head that isn't your hair" :P

[haughty anvil]

i added haircut to positive promt and seems to be fine

[dense tapir]

It is called a style which I like num 1, and num 2 we don't use stupid vaes with 2.1.

[wispy nest]

because there aren't any for it? :P

[dense tapir]

We don't need them as it is made with them and why we have a yaml. Superior to the way 1.5 worked it.

[wispy nest]

yeah, all the 20 people using 2.1 says that. The rest don't ;P

[dense tapir]

Then it pleases me to be among the elite.

[wispy nest]

You do that, me, and the rest will enjoy great images that we like :D

[oak osprey]

GA doesn't know how VAEs work with 2.1. all of the VAEs work for both models.

[dense tapir]

You do you. Some people prefer McDonald's too which is how we see 1.5. Good for the masses.

[oak osprey]

idk why the 1.5 vs 2.1 garbage. i give up on those arguments. both are extremely flawed models in their own way

[wispy nest]

I mostly don't understand how someone think art can be better than something else. Like how 2.1 is better when I've yet to see a single good image that can't be overwhelmingly better using 1.5 models. It's like it's a personal opinion of what looks great or something ;)

[dense tapir]

Ahem, you do realize art is subjective, right?

[wispy nest]

yeah, if I could, I'd rather pay an artist than use the ai if I could get an artist to make what I want.

[oak osprey]

well im not really making excuses but if you put my images in that group of comparison, just don't. my images are attempts at producing a good quality result from a single model without textual inversion, LoRA, text embeds, or anything like that.

so any garbage from me is unlikely to be what you'd get if you actually just wanted a good result no matter how many layers of processing it needs

[wispy nest]

yes, that's what I just said. "It's like it's a personal opinion of what looks great or something."

[oak osprey]

and if you do what i'm doing, both 1.5 and 2.1 are just awful at realism. neither can do anything very well, they're generally capable but like, "jack of all trades, master of none"

that's the experiment, to me, is how to retain that general ability of wide range and still make each thing it produces, "good"

[dense tapir]

Yes, then why do you always have that tone? FFS, you just had it again. We "20" prefer what we prefer. end of story.

[oak osprey]

i have like 200 checkpoints i've trained and i wish i had disk space to keep them all, or the patience to download them to the place where i do have the disk space. because each one has their own strength

[wispy nest]

yeah, it's more about what we enjoy to see. My personal opinion is that 2.1, in any image I've seen, here or otherwise, hasn't been above the quality that a model with 1.5 hasn't done better. But that's just that, it's my opinion. I got a billion reason why X isn't better than Y, just like everyone else has different views on it. I'm just happy people are happy making art :D

[oak osprey]

early on, it can do mountain bikers very well. later on, it cannot do them at all. but it can do portrait faces much better 😦

[wispy nest]

I mostly joke away when people are rude. Can't really say anything else than to try and make a joke about it. :P

[dense tapir]

You are also one, you said this, who doesn't like realism with wrinkles, and other real things. For non real there is 1.5 for anything else there is 2.1

[wispy nest]

curse of the diffusion! :P

[oak osprey]

this guy's right leg is missing but everything else is pretty good

[wispy nest]

yeah, 2.1 is better at realism, or so I thought until yesterday when I saw 1.5 images that were better. So my thoughts have been updated to remove even that from what I think 2.1 is better at. Now 2.1 only has the "possibility" to have more details than 1.5. Rest is worse in my eyes in 2.1.

[dense tapir]

I honestly feel, Walach, that you come here to troll and bash anything non 1.5. Every single time 2.x is brought up you will chime in defending 1.5 when 1.5 was never even brought up.

[oak osprey]

2.1-768 is using just a totally different loss strategy internally, called v_prediction. it is capable of things that 1.5 is not

[wispy nest]

hey, people who want to ride, should ride, even if they don't have all the limbs! ;P

[wispy nest]

I mostly answer people when I see people write stuff like "we don't use stupid vaes with 2.1."
I just want to balanse it out :)

[oak osprey]

it's okay Walach, breathe

[wispy nest]

hehe, now you made me conscious of my own breathing! :P
manual mode active!

[dense tapir]

vae's was a bandage that 2.0 took care of, therefore not needed and only there due to an oversight in 1.5. therefore stupid.

[oak osprey]

some of the kodachrome test images are really great, but i did feed it like 7,000 images of that

[wispy nest]

what oversight? I thought vae's were an extra, like embeddings and loras, etc :O

[oak osprey]

google maps, 1954

[wispy nest]

tiny car :3

[dense tapir]

nope, it was to make up for a deficiency in the original training they said. You can see with and without the devs were right.

[oak osprey]

so many real photos have motion blur to them

[wispy nest]

if you have a link to where I can read it I'd take a look :D

[dense tapir]

screw that you go take a look as they said it when they released the big first one.

it was a HUGE improvement.

[wispy nest]

if you try to get the old "style" then it's probably just how the ai think some of the "items" look like as movement always got blurry from older cameras before all this new digital tech came around :P

[dense tapir]

Anyway, I am done playing with the Walach for the day, so have a good one.

[wispy nest]

I most often just brush things away as a person lying if they don't want to help. Saying something is easy. Showing it is harder. :(

[oak osprey]

i used about 7,000 images from the Cushman collection of kodachrome slides

he wasn't a fabulous photographer, just took a lot of photos and labeled them well

[wispy nest]

yeah, I believe labeling will be one of the steps that needs to be looked over again, and again, and again to slowly get better quality. Add more details upon detals, etc

[haughty anvil]

is there a model like 50-100-200gb of trained data?

[oak osprey]

VAE has been a part of stable diffusion since the beginning

https://github.com/CompVis/latent-diffusion/tree/main/models/first_stage_models

they released an upgraded VAE, which was fine-tuned starting from the original VAE's checkpoint, on a filtered dataset

the way GA just misinforms people agan and again is frustrating, and he does so from an elitist standpoint

[wispy nest]

yeah, I know that, I've read about them. But I never saw them as "mistake," instead I saw them as enchantments, like embeddings, fine-tuning, and loras

[oak osprey]

VAE isn't to address a "deficiency in training", he acts like he is a god among men who knows how to train better than anyone else, but as far as i know, he has never produced a model

they're a fundamental part of this process

[wispy nest]

I've been around ai art, or rather, SD for quite a while and while I do not like to "show off" I do believe I know a lot about it.

[oak osprey]

when you set VAE to "none" inside A1111, it just uses the one that's inside the model's ckpt

now i'm wondering if i should fine-tune 2.1's

somehow.

[cyan snow]

well, and if the model wasn't cooked with a VAE, you get jpeg artifacts on generations

[oak osprey]

no matter how much i tune on real faces they still suck

they get better but at the cost of image quality overall

[cyan snow]

it's the model's architecture, i say when we begin to train SDXL it would fix most issues.

[oak osprey]

you mean architecture as in, the way they trained the base layers?

[wispy nest]

this is what I get from realism from 1.5. And I don't even know how to prompt for realism :P

[cyan snow]

the base model's

[oak osprey]

to me that looks like unreal engine 6

[cyan snow]

it DOES follow prompts very well, but makes somewhat grainy images, like, you can tell they were made with AI

[wispy nest]

hehe probably true, I dislike most ai art photos because they don't "look right" so might the other way around when I try and make one myself :P

[oak osprey]

the grainy images are because of the flawed schedulers

this is with the fixes from this morning in diffusers

an oil painting

[cyan snow]

probably true, A1111 UI isn't originally intended for 2.1.

but with XL it seems to fix that issue

[wispy nest]

yeah, and it look nothing like realism in my eyes. It's more of a "cut out newspaper image and paste it into something else." I don't mean any disrespect, I just want to say what I honestly see when looking at them.
That's why art is subjective, else I hope I'd be the one with the correct view! ;P

[oak osprey]

you mean the edges?

[wispy nest]

yeah

[oak osprey]

why focus on that part

jeez

[wispy nest]

I can't unsee the "cut-off parts" sorry :(

[oak osprey]

you throw away all of the good progress

that's truly annoying

look at his skin, the hair, his eyes, his fur

[cyan snow]

1.5 can fool more people into thinking that the image was made by a human, and 2.1 knows how to follow prompts somewhat better.

[oak osprey]

ignore the weird pin on his lapel lmao

[wispy nest]

it's like, what's the word, uncanny valley? My eyes just zooms in instantly on it. I can't control or "not think of it" :(

[oak osprey]

it'll still be used as marketing material on a website.

what about this guy, struggling to figure out how to vape correctly at a coffee shop

[cyan snow]

i see what you mean, but i'd say that 1.5 is less uncanny than 2.1. and 2.1 can follow prompts better.

[oak osprey]

they need to teach their customers how it works

[wispy nest]

Maybe, but everytime I see something extremely well made. It's 99.9% made with 1.5. I've not seen a good 2.1 image this year, if my bad memory hasn't failed me. But again, "a good image for me might not be a good image for someone else and reverse"

[oak osprey]

and ban this guy

can 1.5 make a skyline of Singapore without adding the friggen Empire State Building and times square?

[wispy nest]

does this look like unreal engine as well?

[cyan snow]

SDXL doesn't seem to have any of 1.5's or 2.1's disadvantages

[oak osprey]

looks like air brush painting

[wispy nest]

darn! :P

[oak osprey]

SDXL doesn't have disadvantages? check out the feedback channel ahahaha

i love the deformed stuff it makes but it has prompt coherence issues and i wonder why

like i know it's not finished training yet but i don't know what they're going to have to do to fix it, and i want to know, and i hope they tell us. but i don't know, the papers SAI releases on their process are lacklustre

[cyan snow]

well, at least for the most part. it fucks up less than previous models

[wispy nest]

I just want good images. If the technical stuff is better only matters if the images from it are also better. :P

[oak osprey]

@cyan snow and Artius v2.1 is possibly more coherent than SDXL and was a model merge done by a community member, but SDXL is being done by a team on a huge cluster. it's just interesting to see how even the experts struggle with this stuff. it's not a solved problem, and i worry that statements like yours are over-hyping SDXL the way Deepfloyd IF was overhyped and the way 2.0 was overhyped

both were considered 'failures' by the community because the community has, on-average, smoothbrain takes on things. even if it's groundbreaking and amazing results, look at all the complaints already in the feedback channel, on the most mundane of issues. like the grass in a particular image not being perfect. trying to fix every last little issue in its output will mean it is never released

[wispy nest]

I think the true answer lies in-between. We need a basic "unit" that we fine-tune, and fine-tune. Then create a new "basic unit v2" from it and redo all the fine-tuning again until perfection :D

[oak osprey]

we need really good fine-tuning tools but they don't exist yet

everyone is currently guessing, and i don't think SAI has those answers for us there either or they'd have done it already too

[wispy nest]

they'll come one day. Until then people seem content to use what is. Probably more work, but you have to start somewhere :D

[oak osprey]

well things like LoRAs have come along to fulfil gaps in the abilities of the base model. and maybe i just need to start using them and being okay with their presence in my workflow. but i still can't drop the dream just yet of making a good base model with generalised fine-tuning that can do dreamlike photoreal

like i've seen amazing things with just 2,000 steps of training on the base 2.1 with all of the SNR fixes! but there's a greedy part of me that can't let that just be how much i train it.

i need it to absorb more data than that, and i'm not sure how to do that effectively

[wispy nest]

I'd say you should. If it's helpful, then it's great, be it embeddings, stupid vae's, loras, or anything else. If it gets better results, then they are great tools in my opinion :D

[oak osprey]

small fine-tuning jobs seem to work much better than very large ones

2k steps with fixed SNR schedule allows it to make scenes like this, a man in a park illuminated by floodlights at nighttime

[wispy nest]

he got off his bike! :P

[oak osprey]

it just literally cannot do that for 2.0-base, 2.1-base or 1.5

[wispy nest]

I won't pretend to understand that. All I can see, is the thing in the image. :P

[oak osprey]

try and make an object on a pure black background or a pure white background

offset noise can kind of make images darker but it can't help making them brighter

it's not the model learning new shades of contrast, it's just forcing it into dark/high-contrast all the time

this new approach instead allows it to make a more varied brightness, rather than fixing it to that one style

[wispy nest]

Can't say I've noticed any issues with that. Other than the "light" problem in 2.1 that is

[oak osprey]

rescaling the CFG is a new approach to stop overexposed results

[wispy nest]

I only see overexposure in 2.1 images more of a default thing than in 1.5 :/

[oak osprey]

all of the cfg configs for the new 2.1 schedules

[dense tapir]

I wonder how well can we train it because if we can't train it, or it is as hard to train, or worse, than 2.1 currently is for me, and a lot of others, it will be fun for a month then time to wander back from whence we came.

[oak osprey]

you can see how rescaling the cfg too far makes the image very neutral

rescaling it not at all, very high contrast, potentially over-exposed

[wispy nest]

yeah, I know of the CFG, most things with the art ai hasn't really changed that much from when I learned it last year. Other than new stuff like loras that is :P

[oak osprey]

aesthetically speaking, the researchers discovered that around columns 5 to 6 were the most commonly accepted

this is new

cfg is the old thing, that is along the left-most column, from top at 0 cfg to the bottom at 9 cfg. this was the way we could adjust prior

pick a row from the left most column. and then move right. that is rescaling that chosen CFG value by 0.0 to 1.0 using the new feature

that's why there's kind of a triangle of similarity at the lowest left. but it's quite interesting because i assumed maybe a 9.0 CFG with 0.5 rescale would = a 4.5 CFG. it does not

it has higher quality than either

[wispy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-tom-ellis-lucifer-morningstar-lucifer-stare-gif-17405688

[wispy nest]

hm, I don't think I follow you, sorry :(
Sounds like the same thing as I know of it, but with different numbers :/

[oak osprey]

i don't know how the heck the math works internally or maybe i could explain better

[wispy nest]

Might be that I mostly use words like "don't go too high or you get bad results" and not the technical numbers :P

It's not your way to explain it, it's me just wanting to see good art. I don't, as an example, pick my brush based on the thickness of the hairs, I pick the one my brain has been taught makes the correct strokes :D

[cyan snow]

artius2.1

1.5 model

[wispy nest]

I like the 1.5 model more, but mostly because of the sharpness of it :P

[cyan snow]

same, same. 2.1 is like, you can tell it's AI generated

and with 1.5 it looks more like a render or something

[wispy nest]

If I'm to be honest, I try and think that I'm much better at prompting using 1.5 and probably have a huge bias for it. Those 2.1 images aren't bad, but if it's a "this or that" then the 1.5 would win it in my opinion.

[wispy nest]

In the end, there's a reason why 1.5 is so, so much larger than 2.1, and it isn't the simple excuse some people make. And it's not a bad thing to be "worse" than something else. It's just that, for me, 2.1 hasn't been able to "be better" than 1.5 thousands of fine-tuned models toward one specific thing. 2.1 might be better if there was enough work on it. But as it is now, there isn't. :(

The most photo real image 2.1 I've seen is not even close to some I've seen people make in 1.5. But those are only the ones I've seen. Not made myself, but when there just aren't any shining 2.1 example I've seen it's so hard to believe in 2.1 future :(

[cyan snow]

my prediction is, that sdxl would just revive this community, but idk, only time will tell

[wispy nest]

Well, I don't think they need to have that to "revive" the community. They just need to make it so people want to be here :P

[dense tapir]

Across the 10 discords I use 4 died 100% so I removed them and the other six or near death. Hell, this one I can see half a day, at times, before any images are posted.

[wispy nest]

(not as a jab at their work, but in a "this is like MJ, come over and have lots of fun" way)

[dense tapir]

A lot of the fun people to chill with that used to be here with me I still talk to and they hung up SD

" I only use it occasionally when I have an idea or if I want to make a label for my other work"

That was dm'd me earlier this morning.

He did good work in it too

[cyan snow]

to be fair, SDXL is somewhat similar to MJ. not only with capabilities, but also in the way the bot functions

[wispy nest]

Yeah, there's a couple people from last year I haven't seen around here. It's sad, but at least there's some left :D

[dense tapir]

Yep, I spotted that immediately.

[wispy nest]

oh well, time for my late shift work. But I don't want to work, I want to sleep >:I
Here's the perfect photo I need from the ai :P

[cyan snow]

this is actually terrifying

i recognize the string pattern

did chatGPT just try to rickroll me?

[dense tapir]

@cyan snow

[cyan snow]

wtf, am i being targeted by chatgpt

[dense tapir]

I am perplexed

[cyan snow]

artius2.1

1.5 model

again, 1.5 is way sharper

different 1.5

[cyan snow]

]

[cyan snow]

i didn't know walter has a twin

[robust arch]

there's a lot of people arguing online whether this is AI generated or not
for context this is the album cover for the next King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard album. People have referenced a supposed artist painting it on instagram tho i couldn't find any source. The background has a lot of AI artifacts tho, especially those towers if you look at it closely, for me it's a dead seller
what are yall thinking?

[quartz ravine]

I tried to do inpainting to replace eyecolor... can someone give me tips for what I can do to make it not horrible

[quartz ravine]

but I'm trying to make them have red eyes

[dense tapir]

Oh, lol.

[quartz ravine]

This is the original

[dense tapir]

Like this

[quartz ravine]

yeah something like that

I'm trying to figure out how to do it right

I did
text->Image to get my image
"eyes"+image-> mask that covers only the eyes using SAM
"red eyes"+image+mask-> inpaint-> goofy looking picture with cross eyes??

[dense tapir]

SAM?

[quartz ravine]

https://github.com/continue-revolution/sd-webui-segment-anything#demo

[dense tapir]

Never used it

[quartz ravine]

it's not important, all it does is outputs a mask you can use in Inpaint

for example, if you did "person"

you can see it automatically creates an inpaint mask you can use

[dense tapir]

Is that the same as the background remover?

[quartz ravine]

a mask is just a black and white file. When you use inpaint, it will only paint inside the white part

(or the black part, depending on what you want)

[dense tapir]

No matter as you see without it I had no issues and I like to keep as many tools away from me as I can.

Yeah, I know what a mask is I am just into doing it in other ways

[quartz ravine]

Yeah not sure why my eyes ended up weird... what prompt did you use?

I just said "red eyes", should I say "person with red eyes" or something?

[quartz ravine]

Ok I'll try a few more things

[dense tapir]

yes

Good luck

[quartz ravine]

I'm doing everything from code because I want to do a lot of images, instead of clicking a bunch

[dense tapir]

Diffusion doesn't take well to automation I found.

[quartz ravine]

Lowering the noise for 55% seems to have helped a lot

Hmm it's a little weird

Mmm, nah still is crosseyed sometimes, but I'll keep working on it

"beautiful woman with red eyes" fixes it

Much better

[oak osprey]

whut lol why do you always nay-say everything even when it's demonstrated to work pretty well

generating regularization images is highly automated

[sterile temple]

morning

[tropic shell]

I feel like the perspective of your snake...frog.....fish matches the destruction of the city. There's a story going on with these three images.

Also, ooo, apple!

[sterile temple]

Oh yeah I see what you mean 😸 like the collapse of a futuristic society and then the evolution of a new species

[tropic shell]

You want red eyes? Or you are trying for blue?

Yes, yes, indeed

Or the opposite!

The fish did it--classic kaiju tale!

[sterile temple]

I started a big run of gens before going to bed. That apple was the first image, and probably the best one out of all of them

[tropic shell]

I like that dude's style.... Forgot his name--he's very good at trees. Watercolor, I think, and pencil. I have written...somewhere....in the black hole that is/are my drives/file structures. What was your prompt?

[sterile temple]

Apple of my eye - Eldritch entity holding a monstrous apple, its gaze reflecting in the apple's surface, style influenced by the uncanny and grotesque elements in H. R. Giger's art, dark, decaying orchard with fearful onlookers.

[tropic shell]

F a n t a s t i c

Sounds like something I'd write, lol

[sterile temple]

here are two others from a similar prompt

[tropic shell]

The eye is either....from Mordor, or a Keese 🤣

[sterile temple]

that creature with the big eye reminds me of something, but I can't place it

[tropic shell]

That's some good looking bark. The apple placement is kind of hilarious on the left but the gnarled branches are great.

The head shape? I can think of a few silhouettes for all of them

[sterile temple]

it does some styles really well with great details, and then I try to do something anime really basic and it's all glitchy and pixelated 😄

[quartz ravine]

Trying for arbitrary eye color, in this case red. Mainly because there are tricks for a consistent face (celebrity names) but the eye colors are subject to vary, especially if you change their clothes color

[tropic shell]

Well, you know, it's just that...low res and jpg artifact you added as a positive, naturally

[tropic shell]

I have 0 clue what model you be using, but here's my thoughts, lol: if you want a specific eye color, using blue and green as a negative, (and sometimes, as both positives, both separate, and apart) may help you. Consider adding hair color. You can also specify certain types of noses, lip shapes, etc. SD does "memorize everything"--faces aren't 100% symmetrical--so think about things that may not be making things, symmetrical, and consider adding them into your prompting.

[quartz ravine]

Face is solved

Just not eye color

Hair color I can do, you just have to use the right words and hope it doesn't bleed into your clothes (or vice versa)

But eyes are really hard to control

So that's why I'm doing this eyes inpainting thing

[oak osprey]

man just load it up into like, Gimp, and split the eyes into their own layer and colour-correct

overthinking it like mad

[sterile temple]

strawberry blonde is a classic one

[quartz ravine]

I might do this (but programming)

[sterile temple]

and bowl cut

[quartz ravine]

Hair color is pretty easy, if you use the right words you can get good control of exact shades

"strawberry blonde" being dangerous because it adds strawberries 🤣

[oak osprey]

put food into negative

first day here eh 😛

[sterile temple]

it handles other two word tokens well, some not so much

[sterile temple]

had to do that before using words like lemon yellow too

[quartz ravine]

See, someone should make a Lora trained on hex codes

So you don't have to fiddle with this silliness

[sterile temple]

bowl cut

interesting, because it generates mostly boys for bowl cuts, so it picked up on that bias, but then it's like, you wanna bowl too right?

[tropic shell]

Let me...restate, then, lol

If the eye color isn't working

You can use inpainting, but if you use certain colors/words, like those stated above, it'll improve it

[tropic shell]

Maybe I do want a bowl. A bowl of food.

Also, it's close, so very close.

On that hand.

[sterile temple]

yeah pretty good lol

get in ma belleh!

[tropic shell]

The extra long middle finger is hilarious

[sterile temple]

i made that one after christmas, with the amazing analog diffusion model. they don't make em like they used to

[tropic shell]

The color is beautiful and the gradient is fantastic. The hand is great, too

That hair belongs in a commercial

It did a really good job with the face

[wispy nest]

💀

But honestly

Considering what i prompt

This is innocent one.

[oak osprey]

Gordon Ramsay

gordon ramsay, in his kitchen, yelling at his food for being too dry

@wispy nest 🤣

in my model, Jack Black is dog

[sterile temple]

it required a lot of inpainting to get that, the model won't spit something like that out easily 😄

[oak osprey]

@smoky oak why did you not tell me DDIM is so good

horsecycle

me: Salvador Dali
AI:

[wispy nest]

I could use Nfsw models and will get it in 10 minutes of attemps.

Not in exactly your style

Obviosly

@sterile temple By the way, can i ask you something in personal?

Accept friend request.

[royal gust]

!Berserk

[oak osprey]

"My fingers... are... FINE."

industrial vape accident

[dense tapir]

@smoky oak

[smoky oak]

Oh wow haha

Pretty neat

[dense tapir]

I am searching for an unused token word for the last half hour and stumbled on that

[wispy nest]

"I took them 1 hour before noticing that their friend, jack, was not with them anymore." :P

[gleaming forge]

monk image siiting in himalaya

[acoustic oracle]

How do I fix ultimate upscale?

ive enabled it and restarted a few times

[sterile temple]

how is it broken?

[acoustic oracle]

But it is not in the dropdown

[sterile temple]

it's not an upscaler model, it's a script

[acoustic oracle]

Oh i see

Its not in scripts either

nvm it is in the img2img one

i found it

thanks for helping

[oak osprey]

taking a leak on mars

[sterile temple]

cause I've got both hands in my pocket
And the other one is holding a duffle bag 🎶

[wispy ether]

ngl but the models ur using are bad

[oak osprey]

ngl but no one gives a crap about the rude stuff you say lol

that's why people have coined the nickname, "inept"

[wispy ether]

"ngl but no one gives a crap about the rude stuff you say lol"

[oak osprey]

https://github.com/dome272/Wuerstchen

even smaller internal latent space rather than 64x64 for Stable Diffusion, Wuerstchen uses 12x12

[wispy nest]

changing from legal to not legal

[oak osprey]

"mix" probably has "chillout mix" in it, which is always illegal. that model is nasty

[wispy ether]

is dat nmkd gui

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[wispy nest]

yes

[wispy nest]

Something wrong?

[oak osprey]

i trained 1.5 on v_prediction and terminal SNR and it's capable of dark images without offset noise or SNR gamma but looks blurry

and it does this weird stuff with red

1.5 vs 2.1

same dataset etc

1.5 is on the struggle bus.

maybe 1.5 needs like 10 times the number of steps, which means it's a LOT more expensive to train

[wispy nest]

🙂

[wispy ether]

[cold berry]

That's odd, i'll take a look

[thorn spade]

Is there a commissions or for hire board on here where I can hire an experienced tutor?

[cold berry]

Like mentioned previously, we don't have a specific board for hire/commissions. That does fall under the umbrella of #1092446741984444416 though.

I've opened a mod support-ticket for you, we can continue this conversation there privately.

[dark flare]

It's almost Kurt Russell in his Santa Claus movies 😄

Or the aged Kevin Flynn...

[oak osprey]

ahaha

it's The Big Lebowski

Jeff Bridges

it's not, but i can see it

[dark flare]

yeeeesss

Well, same actor 😉

Flynn was more recent

[oak osprey]

yeah yeah i know

from TRON

[dark flare]

Indeed, indeed

[oak osprey]

this is me training from the beginning again using a huge batch size

i quite like that result there

[dark flare]

Yes, it's excellent!

[wispy ether]

nerd

[wispy nest]

the first two images are from a new model I downloaded, and the last two is the same prompt but on my own merge from last year. I don't know why it's like this. But I like both results at least :D

[digital sail]

Did you have any luck finding them? I've tried looking for it in the open source version of Dream Studio (https://github.com/Stability-AI/StableStudio), but I can't really find it...

[wispy nest]

hola a tod@s

viva la vida

#1072220168534642768 whale miyazaki art

[wispy nest]

[smoky oak]

What's up losers?

[shut sinew]

How to not start a conversation 101

[wispy nest]

Post more satanic renders

[oak osprey]

why does your name colour change all the time

[shut sinew]

Not my fault

[smoky oak]

Pffttt, I wish. AI doesn't have much support for occult style renders

I'd it did, I would be generating satanic shit all the time and working it into brand imaging lol

[smoky oak]

It typically works pretty well :p

[oak osprey]

we'll see

perspective

apparently occult stuff is easy, it's just candles!

i wonder where that egg thing is supposed to go

[grizzled olive]

Haunted house terrariums. These were fun to make.

[oak osprey]

some real Eyes Wide Shut stuff happening there

@smoky oak may the force be with you 🤣

[smoky oak]

Those occult generations look kinda cool, but still pretty poor in execution

Really hoping that AI gets less limited in smaller subject matter as time goes on

I'd really love to do some actual satanic image generations, but that would probably require me to make a LoRA of it from other people's work, but they are small creators with not much income, so that would be pretty scummy

[oak osprey]

name that celeb

[smoky oak]

Ribbon wilms

[oak osprey]

lmfao

i trained 1.5 on terminal SNR btw

that's the occult stuff it comes up with on one try

weird eh

probably will take a fair more tinkering than i've put into it to make that work

devito

[grizzled olive]

An attempt at occult

[oak osprey]

wut is that

[grizzled olive]

Don't worry, I am just an idiot

Hopefully this one works

[quartz ravine]

This doesn't remind me of that movie at all

Have you seen it? The subject matter is decidedly different

[oak osprey]

the opulence of the last three images is exactly like some of the sets in the film

[quartz ravine]

I guess, but that's not what people mean when they reference that movie

[oak osprey]

that's what i meant, and now you know 🙂

[quartz ravine]

I guess your take away from that movie is "big rooms" 🤣

[oak osprey]

yup

[quartz ravine]

For reference

[oak osprey]

i guess it's more like rocky horror picture show

[quartz ravine]

🙂 I guess some people make different connections to things and that's ok

[oak osprey]

RIP

[sterile temple]

🌅 morning

[oak osprey]

https://youtu.be/wsRatIMUSu8

morning music

[sterile temple]

sound's not working through the remote connection 🤔

[oak osprey]

but the floot

[sterile temple]

I'll look it up on my work laptop

[oak osprey]

the remaster is so good

[sterile temple]

nice and crisp

my dad had a beatles cd collection with the green apple artwork from what I remember. I used to listen to it on the boombox in my room

looks like they've done a few box sets with the apple over the years

[oak osprey]

oh yeah my mom had that one too

did you have one from Enigma too

always tripped me out

[sterile temple]

nah, they didn't buy much music on cd. he had an old vinyl collection from when he was younger but sadly we didn't have a way to play them

usually they had the easy listening station on in the car, so nothing too far our there like enigma 😄

although I'm sure it's being played on easy listening radio these days

[oak osprey]

oh, we had The Wall on a 4 'disc' vinyl set

discovered that on a road trip when my dad put it on and it was like i was hearing music for the first time and i asked what it was and then mom said she'd show us the record when we got home, and boy did she

[sterile temple]

I didn't really discover music until I had my own computer and had access to emule and kazaa etc and started downloading random stuff on those

oh no what have I done :S

[oak osprey]

a port-hole 👁️👄👁️

[grizzled olive]

So what can I do about artifacts like these when I am upscaling? I can't seem to figure out how to get a clean, simple upscale for abstract stuff.

[oak osprey]

try controlnet tiles with the prompt "best quality"

heard u guys like photorealism

[grizzled olive]

This is with CN tiles and SwinIR, using the SD ultimate upscaler. I will try that out.

[oak osprey]

pepe the frog

denny divoto

[vocal cloud]

That looks like a VAE issue. You may have to manually set your VAE rather than having it run "auto".

[grizzled olive]

Awesome, I appreciate it. I'll read the documentation.

[oak osprey]

time travel pod gone wrong

[oak osprey]

rip

[smoky oak]

if you are using the latent upscale,r I'd recommend using the Anime 6b one instead (sorry if thats not the exact name)

you can use a lower denoise, and its much better fir smooth designs like this

[long kite]

Hey guys, question. I've just started with stable diffusion last night, and was able to generated an image like this, right now there's some error as the image character has 6 fingers. How do i use stable diffusion to fine tune the errors? like maintaining this image, but just fix the fingers

[smoky oak]

why you peeng meee

[oak osprey]

im pretty sure thats satan appearing in my test gens

tried to summon him on purpose earlier and now he's coming without asking

[wispy nest]

i was making nsfw art as usual and this popped up

[sterile temple]

oh yeah, long weekend!

[haughty anvil]

why is it so difficult to get a guy with proper jean

i think i need a model that not made by weirdos

[sterile temple]

are you wanting a cartoon guy with jeans?

what model are you using?

[haughty anvil]

tried all

[sterile temple]

so doesn't have to be a cartoon?

[haughty anvil]

have to be a cartoon

i mean what the hell is that

[wispy nest]

what's the prompt? there's a lot of words that the ai "thinks" of in quite...different ways from us mere mortals :P

[haughty anvil]

character sheet of a mysterious kid, gloves, modern casual dressing, jean, haircut

negative extra fingers, woman, female, anime, facial hair, horror, headwear

and always get weird clothes with weird colors

this was what i want but the clothes..

same prompts by the way

[sterile temple]

did you try specifying each item of clothing? E.g. denim jeans, white tshirt, black gloves

[haughty anvil]

i get dumb when i think of the prompts lol

[wispy nest]

might be the jean and dressing that confuses it. As well as "kid" because how many kids (children) are dressed

[smoky oak]

I just found one of the only paintings I actually like lol

"Making of the perfect Martini" by Guy Buffet lol

The energy is immaculate

[lilac orchid]

How to create AI images with reference images can anyone help ?

[sterile temple]

I like his hair at the end

[smoky oak]

oh, I didn't even notice that lmao

[smoky oak]

Google how to use "reference only" with controlnet in stable diffusion

there is a special workflow for just that

[lilac orchid]

Thanks @smoky oak will have a look

[smoky oak]

no problem, best of luck!

[sterile temple]

@smoky oak How's the dynamic prompting with wildcards going?

[smoky oak]

I have only messed around with it a little, but it has been very cool

I have been having some breakthroughs with music, so its had my attention as of late 😅

[sterile temple]

go with the flow, whatever is floating your boat atm

[smoky oak]

just made a new audio rack for myself with a custom UI and everything, and its already revolutionizing the way I process melodies and such

[sterile temple]

nice

[sterile temple]

so maby knobs

[smoky oak]

Small taste of what it can do, without, and with

Its a crystalizer/atmosphere rack, to streamline the very tedious task of layering effects for such a result lol

gotta love node workflowssss

[sterile temple]

i see, i see pretends to understand 😛

[smoky oak]

One more example of without vs with

[smoky oak]

the yellow connections are the flow of audio, and the red connections are the knobs on the surface linking to knobs in the plugins themselves

[sterile temple]

oh right, cool. I hear it adds some extra to the stuff in there

[smoky oak]

so its basically different strands of the same audio being processed in different ways, and then combined at the end

I wish FL had the ability to import images into patcher surfaces, cause I would decorate my racks with SD generations haha

[wispy nest]

what are the odds? I was checking old screenshots and saw this, and then the discord :P

[smoky oak]

oh my, back when FL looked dated AF

OH WAIT

thats just that old of a version of FL lmao

[wispy nest]

yes, it was when I used it, in 2007 :P

[smoky oak]

oh wow haha

yeah, FL looks wayyy different now

the cleanest and sleekest of DAW's IMO

[wispy nest]

yeah, I still have it and use it, but not as much because of lack of music time vs ai art time :P

[sterile temple]

ah, those were the days, msn messenger, winamp, kazaa, playing around with FL and PS

[wispy nest]

but it's a paid version of photoshop, those things are very rare ;P

[smoky oak]

funnily enough, FL is the only one you can still use

PS is priced out the ass now, and all those other programs are dead

[wispy nest]

this is the beginning of the song in the screenshot. I lost about 90% of all my stuff when a harddrive crashed about 12 years ago or so, so this version isn't the finished version (the cut-off was made by me because of size limit of discord though) :(

[smoky oak]

Another example of how it works without and with

[sterile temple]

why is it reminding me of the old rinnai gas heater at my old parent's house

[wispy nest]

I have, no. I dea. At. All. :P
And I don't know if it's a good thing, or a bad thing to be compared to a "old gas heater" 🤔
Wait, I AM an old'ish gas heater! 😱

[sterile temple]

we're all gas heaters at the end of the day ;P

[sterile temple]

getting an atmospheric space game soundtrack

[smoky oak]

its made specifically for atmosphere haha

its supposed to be glittery, and airy, and atmospheric

[wispy nest]

I don't even know what that is from your screenshots, I just wanted to butt in and show off my poor skills (general and artist ones) before being pulled back to the depths I came from :P

[smoky oak]

its a custom patcher rack I made in FL haha. Its their built in nearly limitless node system for processing

[wispy nest]

I recognize some of those words, yes... I think I do anyway :P

[smoky oak]

as cool as this new rack is, my actually big breakthrough in audio has been atonal bass processing. I made a goof with a new friend in a voice call, and it lead to the single biggest jump in my bass production to date lmao

Here are a few new basses I have made in the last few days

(WARNING, LOUD AND INTENSE)

[wispy nest]

this is what I thought of when you said bass :P

(made that one years ago as well)

[smoky oak]

just busted out the midi keyboard, lord have mercy :p

[sterile temple]

https://tenor.com/view/party-fire-rock-sparkle-lights-gif-20089141

[smoky oak]

I really wish this keyboard was more than 3 octave 😅

[sterile temple]

I was hoping to find a video of one of those gas heaters so I can hear the sound again 😦

[wispy nest]

one would think those things would be everywhere? ;P

[sterile temple]

found a few videos on how to fix/clean them, but cmon, you gotta show it working with the fan running. nup

[still temple]

go

[acoustic oracle]

i attempted an img2img upscale, idk why but it made it into a collage

still looks nice tho just not what i was planning to get

[sterile temple]

denoising up too high

[tropic shell]

I kind of love it--The collage/kolaidescope effect is fun.

[acoustic oracle]

yeah i also think its kinda nice

[acoustic oracle]

ill try reduce it

oh that explains it, i accidentally typed 0.75 instead of 0.35 xd

[tropic shell]

When you said denoise, though, I suddenly pictured it as "DJ Denoise." 🤣 And he'd have these screens behind him with something like that in the background

It's kind of fun to see what happens when you set it too high, hahahaha!

[acoustic oracle]

this is it with the lower denoise, much better

still has some banding but i retried with diff settings

[wispy nest]

it's a "feeling" thing you'll learn over time :D

[acoustic oracle]

i am using lollypop upscaler, it worked the best of the ones i tried for this

the rest made it look blurry and a bit dim

Banding does not seem to go away with different settings so i will stop here

its only noticeable in nthe sky tho so maybe some blur would make it go away

[wispy nest]

not really the same style, but this is as close to anime I wanted to search for when it comes to upscaling

[sterile temple]

I also found euler can change the image too much, even at a low denoise strength

[wispy nest]

this one is slightly closer, maybe :P

[acoustic oracle]

what is a good sampling mathod?

method*

[sterile temple]

try dpm++ 2m karras at 0.4 strength

[acoustic oracle]

Cool, what model and prompt did you use?

[dry crow]

You need to use a vae file for anime models too.

For better colors

[sterile temple]

(by artist David Diao), features intricate detail, a still life, naive art, boy amongst flowers, egasumi

[acoustic oracle]

Where do i select a VAE in automatic1111?

[dry crow]

Here i link you the vae quick guide:
The last step is very helpfull.
#🤝｜tech-support message

[acoustic oracle]

Thanks

[grizzled olive]

Flavor bomb

[oak osprey]

alien market

mars anomaly

[wispy nest]

Gods of Kross(my book):God of reality(Wonderan),God of change(Pewxanes),Goddess of souls(Azerox),God of time(Dekaran),God of matter(Ganrasden),God of space(Zetrox)

[oak osprey]

can anyone make him wear a hood? i can't

NO LAUGH REACTS PLZ

he's in danger

[wispy nest]

that's too cute!
But also, way, WAY too dangerous, look out! Also: It's against the rules not to have a welding mask when welding! >:I

[oak osprey]

i know

[wispy nest]

that makes it worse! Knowingly doing it is even worse ;P

[oak osprey]

look at all the PPE i got him to wear

he has everything on EXCEPT the hood

you can't blame me! sometimes kids just need to weld

[wispy nest]

now I also have tiny houses...if only the rent was also tiny >:(

[oak osprey]

this guy will defend your land for a small fee. just a mere 90% of your income

if you don't pay the fee, however

this dinosaur watching the meteor come down that causes the extinction event

[wispy nest]

sure, I'll just count it on my calculator
0.9 * 0 …

[oak osprey]

Jim and Steve looked wearily on at the meteor, knowing full well what would come next.

Jim looked down at his human friend, Steve.

"I am so sorry, Steve. I wish I could have done more for you."

"Actually, can you lay down in that oil pit over there? I have an idea."

"Dude, really? That sucks, won't it hurt?"

"You won't feel a thing."

Jim laid down in the oil pit, and took his final breath, as Steve climbed into his cryo-freeze tube and settled in for a long sleep.

[wispy nest]

hm, didn't work on tiny dinosaur :(

[smoky oak]

howdy hello, plebians!

||myself included||

@dense tapir Just realized... its been a long time since we saw a pathetically disgused Sen alt

[oak osprey]

maybe he learnt

jk

oh, maybe this will work

[smoky oak]

would be an astonishing leap in the field of natural intelligence

[oak osprey]

"Taylor Swift looks better with red lipstick"

did it work?

[smoky oak]

"Dreambooths are trash"

[oak osprey]

they are

destructive-ass training method

[smoky oak]

Don't let sen hear you, they talked to the best of the best, and they know for suresies that DB are the best cause of a 5 month old youtube video with like 25k views

[oak osprey]

by the way i was looking at the A1111 code for LoRAs and it definitely merges the weights of the LoRA into the unet of the base model that is being used

[smoky oak]

thats also why after literally 3 weeks, theys till had no dreambooth to compare against my LoRA I made in less than half an hour

[oak osprey]

Diffusers is implementing it in a more drive-by manner so that multiple LoRAs can be loaded and unloaded without reloading the base unet

[smoky oak]

interesting, I have never had any sort of spill over

[oak osprey]

i thought it was interesting too but it explains why the regularization images worked for you

i was so curious why that would help, when the LoRA is its own network

but it's due to the merge

[wispy nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_9LGSex1JY
A rare interview maybe ;P

[smoky oak]

Ahhhh, hmmmm

[oak osprey]

where did you get this video of me

"all these emails i get about my model. 'this model is bad.' 'you should feel bad.' 'this model made me cry'.

I do not care about people's opinions"

[wispy nest]

you don't want to know...by the way, you need to restock your fridge, and also fill up on more coffee for the next time I—I mean no one wants to… erm, nothing! disregard me

[still temple]

go

[oak osprey]

why do you paste this same image? you think a bot will do something with it?

which path do you take?

[wispy nest]

for ai images the answer would be: Both ;P

[smoky oak]

oh my god, I am going to hell for saying this

but she looks like the uhhhh

LMAO

[oak osprey]

i love this dipshit pirate

[dense tapir]

It has been. Oh, I got banned from GitHub

[smoky oak]

oh lord

what happened lol

[dense tapir]

We do not allow content or activity on GitHub that:

is off-topic, or interacts with platform features in a way that significantly or repeatedly disrupts the experience of other users

Specifically, the content or activity that was reported included creating multiple off-topic and disruptive issues, pull requests, and/or comments in other users' repositories, which we found to be in violation of our Acceptable Use Policies.

iow, there is one person

the other stuff I never did so it goes back to you know who

[oak osprey]

blaming vlad again, are you

bold strategy, Cotton. let's see how it plays out for him

[smoky oak]

I mean, I have seen first and second hand how big of a douche Vlad is

[dense tapir]

It was Vlad who did this

Just took a bit to go through the pipe.

[oak osprey]

github doesn't necessarily ban people for zero reason

[dense tapir]

@smoky oak I sent you a pm

[oak osprey]

well, other than having two free accounts

[smoky oak]

for sure, but I do know how Vlad could have spun it

he closed a legit concern we had for being "off topic" and being "spam" when we literally just shared an error report with him

[oak osprey]

if it's spin, appeals should work. but overall i'm not laughing about GA being banned from Github. that's pretty fuckin devastating. like, RIP livelihood for many people when that happens

[smoky oak]

just screenshotted eactly what it was, asked what was the matter, and he said we were wasting his time by not giving him enough "evidence" or whatever

like we are the ones who made the program or something lol

[oak osprey]

to be fair to him, he didn't make it either

[smoky oak]

like what more do you want than the entire error code

[smoky oak]

it was specifically one of his changes he did to the UI, IIRC

A him exclusive edit to it

[oak osprey]

that's fair, and i knew that. but also, it interacts with all of the tower of garbage he built on

[smoky oak]

forgive me if I am wrong, it was a while ago

[smoky oak]

very true

just not sure why he needs to be such an ass about it, and act like we are trying to waste his time

at the end of the day, it was an addition he made that didn't work, so we asked him

[oak osprey]

finding out how A1111 does some singular (simple) thing is so hard. it has like 4 or more ways to do any single thing. and that's through the UI! in the code, it's worse.

[smoky oak]

he made his own programming language

its called StRokE

[oak osprey]

developers need to learn to be people persons in this day and age

[smoky oak]

lol

[oak osprey]

if you don't want to hand hold users, do not publish the garbage

or close the Issues tab on Github. just disable the issue tracker altogether. problem solved

[smoky oak]

especially if your work is for the people, and you are putting yourself in a situation on a platform where people are supposed to interact with you lol

[oak osprey]

maybe he appreciates help from a certain type of person, but not others. like, "users" vs "contributors". a person who contributes code, might be welcomed with open arms.

i get uppity when users sound demanding on me. man, some of the DMs i get from users trying my model on Civit. just makes me want to delete all my crap from there

[dense tapir]

Too many thin skinned people connected with this SD stuff.

btw, do you know what got me?

Posting off-topic comments
Opening empty or meaningless issues or pull requests

I didn't do either, but Vlad said both. Github saw that I actually file tickets on projects and I guess under the new Microsoft Github that is frowned upon. Good to know going forward.

[oak osprey]

going through the WayBack Machine to see your comments, lmao. toxic as hell

lots of "f" bombs there

[dense tapir]

@smoky oak Funny thing is they never told me as I can still use the service and only found out when I tried to use Colab with it. All 3rd party apps are disallowed due to my spam status. Not sure I can post but I can still use my repositories.

I might have been banned since Vlad incident happened.

"banned"

[oak osprey]

your whole account is 404'ing right now. you are fully banned.

[smoky oak]

I see a lot of the chat got deleted while I was away lol

[oak osprey]

eh i decided it wasn't worth it to address those things

[dense tapir]

What is it with Russian named devs? Vlad and Auto are both, supposedly, from Russia.

[smoky oak]

likely just two bad examples of a demographic

[dense tapir]

I hope so

In my gen they were thicker skinned (had to be thanks to the USSR) than either of those and were pretty on the ball.

[oak osprey]

now you're taking your one experience and applying it to an entire ethnographic group?

are you going to think all Americans are like that because of any poor interactions with an "American named" dev?

[oak osprey]

@tropic shell is this kind of thing welcome here, disparaging an entire group of people like that?

starting to look like the bad guy from Toy Story

[cyan snow]

hey, i made this comparison and im not sure wich model did the best job here. thoughts?

[tropic shell]

If you wish to discuss this topic further, I recommend that you take it to DM's. Let's keep chat positive. 🙂

[dense tapir]

Right side or the Left side with the right side having a slight lead for me

[oak osprey]

Celarity V2 looks broken

the rest look good

[cyan snow]

i think i kinda like the left one the most, but yeah, the V5 of that model is definatly better than V2.

[tropic shell]

It's interesting how each has its own character. I like each of them, but it depends on what you're going for, I suppose.

The 1st and 4th have the most realistic depth/perspective.

[dense tapir]

Paragon is a 1.5 model?