#🏞|general-with-images

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oak osprey
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baseline 1.5 is some of the greatest stuff in the genre

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the deformed outputs it makes are just top in class

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favour for what though, family portraits?

dense tapir
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here is ++ SDE

wispy nest
oak osprey
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wireless handlebars

oak osprey
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nails the 1980s kodachrome look too

wispy nest
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I heard that googles ai is the best for everything, but I've never seen their results because "top secret" >:(

sterile temple
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every model looks good when they only show cherry picked images

oak osprey
dense tapir
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I have been testing a few other 1.5 models but I can't show any of them as they all came out nude

oak osprey
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something off but i don't know what

sterile temple
dense tapir
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I guess so :/

wispy nest
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nude, you say :P

dense tapir
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yes, in your face and smothered

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OMG, even realisticvision they are nude

oak osprey
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chibiYell what the bing

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people are definitely cherry-picking their results lmfao

wispy nest
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if this was the standard results, then I'd never need anything else when it comes to art. This is exactly the type of style I love when it comes to color, detail sharpness, etc. Or rather, the one I think is more than enough :D

oak osprey
dense tapir
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Too plain for me

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I'll use disney

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I am going back to 2.1

dark flare
dense tapir
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LOL, eve MJ 1.4 my image is nude.

wispy nest
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I just want the ai images to not look like ai images, I want them to look like they were made by a person. And from my own opinion, only the painting style would fit in a professional consumer product. I.E., no weird fingers, very little weirdness in filters, no noise, no copies, etc. Like, if you saw this in X, would you be happy with it?

Might be a tall order, yes :P

oak osprey
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he has a masters in physics

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there's an account in my local shoutout group that has an image of a 80-something year old woman, and she's always posting sus pictures and i'm thinking it's an AI account

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she said this is her dog

dark flare
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heheheee ........

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He may be self-aware

dense tapir
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Even with nude in the neg it would not pass clyde

oak osprey
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he has human ears in another img

dark flare
dense tapir
dark flare
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He-Man's girlfriend?

dense tapir
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LOL

oak osprey
dense tapir
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well, back on 2.1 cause I could not make that non nude in 1.5

oak osprey
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this Hermione is too magical

wispy nest
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not even the image I posted would pass as the hair on one side is wrong and the patch below it is weird.

dark flare
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So, I know you guys are DYING to know ... the results of my training were MISERABLE, so bad I even deleted the images I generated because they were just so WTF.

And I never delete anything.

It led me to thinking, maybe the lora file(s) weren't loading properly .. .. . .. . so now I guess I'll do a different tutorial because mine was confusing??

oak osprey
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@wispy nest but even when it's bad, it's good

dense tapir
dark flare
oak osprey
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yeah go try Imagen

wispy nest
wispy nest
oak osprey
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i want AI to make impossible things because i can go use a camera to take photos

wispy nest
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I want the ai to be able to make everything possible :D

oak osprey
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i don't, marketing as an industry is already so toxic, i'm not looking forward to what these tools will enable them to do

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its one of those things whose knock-on effects are hard to escape

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even if you somehow manage to avoid ads and never see one - as if you can even know that - no one else is avoiding them, and your interactions are all impacted by that marketing

dark flare
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Social Dilemma, anyone?

sterile temple
oak osprey
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clones C1 through C5, HOMEWORK TIME

dense tapir
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I've fallen down this rabbit hole and can't find my way back

oak osprey
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ah, there we go

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my fine-tuning on this model really did fix its ability to make faces reliably but like i never thought i'd say this, but i need more pictures of children to put into the training data i guess lmao

dense tapir
oak osprey
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or maybe not, idk

wispy nest
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Hehe, whenever I see a image I see them as if they were made to look as good as possible. I'm kinda boring when it comes to art actually :(

oak osprey
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you can change

wispy nest
oak osprey
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imagine receiving this pillow as a gift and it weren't your family

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that's the AI hellscape future we live in

wispy nest
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making something silly is easy, but making something perfect is harder, for me at least. That's why I slowly moved toward making "as perfect images as possible" :P

oak osprey
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children of the corn 🌽

dense tapir
oak osprey
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ok mr easy pants

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show me the silly

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Silly Wonka and his Silly Factory

dark flare
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Hey I just realized there's a #🔧|finetune channel so I'm gonna do my bellyaching there... 😉

oak osprey
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i see nothing wrong with this image

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the daughter's name is Little Arty. Arty Facted

wispy nest
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I opened my older stuff folder and my computer almost died showing the 700,000 images :P

oak osprey
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can you imagine being this close to your family

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hive mind

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really makes ya think

sterile temple
wispy nest
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this is one of my silly images :P

oak osprey
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that's not silly, that's epic

wispy nest
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how about this then: cat origami?

oak osprey
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where are they walking from

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^ this would be sent to like the FBI as a faked proof of life to show someone is still alive when it's just photoshopped old family trip photos into new places

wispy nest
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and this one is like in the middle of november :P

dense tapir
wispy nest
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or maybe this? too little catnip

dense tapir
oak osprey
wispy nest
oak osprey
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night

wispy nest
dense tapir
wispy ether
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Raw editwaow

dense tapir
wispy ether
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Waltuh

dense tapir
wispy ether
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Tf

oak osprey
dense tapir
dense tapir
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Look a lot like him

viral crescent
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hihi

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ahhhhh! it's baby apocalypse

sterile temple
wispy ether
sterile temple
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110%

wispy ether
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What

sterile temple
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whomst

wispy ether
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?

smoky oak
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inept

wispy ether
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What

viral crescent
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so Im looking for a decent femboy checkpoint any thoughts

viral crescent
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no

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all Lora's not checkpoints

smoky oak
sterile temple
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couldnt you just prompt for it from most models?

smoky oak
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yeah, should be able to pretty easily

viral crescent
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I still seem to be getting Boobas

sterile temple
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increase the weight for male

smoky oak
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probably just bad prompting

viral crescent
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Hmmm ok I'll keep trying

dark flare
sterile temple
sterile temple
dark flare
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Well, Bitcoin is pointless now, gotta do something with 'em 😉

sterile temple
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where did these guys learn how to ride a horse?

dark flare
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hehehe

sterile temple
dark flare
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Verra nass, how much?

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OK, so ... I think I don't care about lora because I have 12 GB .... yes???? I can has regular Dreambooth?

sterile temple
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you can use a lora with any compatible checkpoint

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you can also create a lora from a checkpoint

dark flare
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Well, I have a civitai model, and I just wanna add my face to it

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There are sooooo many ways and 🙈

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Is the result of kohya_ss different from the Dreambooth tab in a1111?

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Scratch that, it seems the extension won't install/activate properly for me 😉

sterile temple
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I've only tried dreambooth a few months ago on a colab notebook, and recently a colab notebook for a lora trainer that was really simple to use. I don't think I could do any training on my laptop

dark flare
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Have you trained much or not really?

sterile temple
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not really. I would like to play around with it, but it seems like a lot to learn 😄

dark flare
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SEEMS THAT WAY FO' SHO'

sterile temple
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I've been playing around with mixing models, recently trying the blockweight merge type of mixing

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looks like you can connect a colab notebook to a local runtime on your computer

dark flare
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Yeah, I could always run the old colab from last November but I wanna do it like the cool kids are doing now 😛 locally

sterile temple
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could always run overnight while I sleep

dark flare
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So yeah .... I didn't realize (until a couple hours ago) that lora was for low-VRAM pipples, and I shouldn't have wasted my time on it in the first place 😆

sinful mirage
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the hair lmao

marble wasp
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seriously beautiful

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i dont even know how something ike this is possible with SD

sinful mirage
marble wasp
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ahh

wispy nest
sterile temple
marble wasp
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his was better

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lol

sterile temple
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no, I'm delusional and I think mine is so much better!

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prompting intensifies

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Yeaaaaaaaaaaarghhh!!!

wispy ether
north monolith
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Glad people are talking about this, as I am just trying to install the Dreambooth extension, as there are plenty of videos showing that you can use it to train Lora's

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But I'm having install issues with it, so considering kohya instead

mystic marlin
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Random forest nymph? Still messing with Loopback Scaler.

dark flare
marble wasp
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SD has problems with faces at larger than a close up shot for me

sterile temple
marble wasp
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if you imagine a medium wide shot of a person, to where their body is in frame, it seems to have facial distortions that i have been trying to paint and inpaint out. then i added prompts about sharp facial features in different ways and it still renders it so weird. I got frustrated and closed the program

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lol rage quit

sterile temple
marble wasp
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im not aware of it

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i'll look into it

sterile temple
sterile temple
cyan snow
cyan snow
wispy ether
cyan snow
wispy ether
cyan snow
wispy ether
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my vram when upscaling 512 to 2048

cyan snow
sterile temple
cyan snow
sterile temple
cyan snow
shut sinew
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First time playing around with ADetailer, kinda epic

sterile temple
cyan snow
wispy ether
oak osprey
sterile temple
wispy ether
shut sinew
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Getting somewhere hmmm

dense tapir
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@smoky oak I am reading a few different things about getting the AMD 7K cards working (since no official ROCm support is there yet) and saw this - "Currently, SDP attention unfortunately doesn’t help with RX 7900 XTX’s iteration speed and is memory hungry. It’s better to switch back to old optimization and stay tuned." Ahem, for me, and you, that was the exact same case. Apparently, as the devs said, it really is just for a 3090/4090.

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@smoky oak

latent atlas
oak osprey
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when CFG is around 2.0-5.0 you get more poopy looking flowers like that, and the subjects might be floating off the ground

shut sinew
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I did some macro shots of flowers before, no open fields tho

oak osprey
oak osprey
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bannapple

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lol they should fix that

wispy ether
oak osprey
wispy nest
oak osprey
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nope, automatic doesn't have the thing i mentioned

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i doubt it will because it uses Diffusers, they'll have to pull the code out of there and essentially pull it into bits and pieces to jam into A1111

wispy nest
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I thought it was this thing :/

oak osprey
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oh that apparently is the same thing yeah

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the Mixture of Diffusers one

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i see Multidiffusion is now essentially Mixture diffusion. he updated it last week to import their method and uses it instead of his own

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the model_hijack inside the file there is the work i was talking about that'd need to be done

wispy nest
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can't get it to work and need to read why, but I'm too stuck with the "neutral prompt" thingie I also got at the same time :D

oak osprey
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well like we found yesterday, mixdiff is going to take hours to make something awesome

dense tapir
oak osprey
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i'm kind of jealous at the way A1111 diffusion implementations can just be thrown in there without having to update the entire pipeline workflow, but it requires more insight into what the hell the tools are actually doing: https://github.com/pkuliyi2015/multidiffusion-upscaler-for-automatic1111/blob/main/tile_methods/mixtureofdiffusers.py

eg. this model hijack essentially reimplements the noise scheduling of the model inside automatic's hooks, which are done that way so that they can be passed around between different extensions

what diffusers would need is just one line of code:

pipeline = StableDiffusionCanvasPipeline.from_pretrained("CompVis/stable-diffusion-v1-4", scheduler=scheduler, use_auth_token=True).to("cuda:0")
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the thing about the A1111 version is that because everything is exploded and reimplemented for each extension/pipeline, you can do stuff that's not supported by diffusers, like, set the method used for CFG rescaling

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Diffusers likely just needs 4 or 5 lines of code added to allow that, though

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ComfyUI did roughly the same kind of thing A1111 did, they pull bits out of underlying libraries and reimplement them into their own class wrappers so that they have more control over the pipeline's inputs and outputs, which makes a lot of sense for that tool, but still, i wish that were more baked-in to Diffusers

wispy nest
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well, I got it working, now to understand just how to work it :P

oak osprey
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that's most of the time you'll spend lmao

wispy nest
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was my first random prompt result :P

wispy ether
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ai takes over the world

dense tapir
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Seems the 4090 is being impacted by Nvidia stopping production on the chips and moving the facilities over to Hopper production has begun. Went on pcpartspicker and a lot of cards from manufacturers are not available.

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Here comes the mining days again.

oak osprey
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i got mine 🙂

cyan snow
dense tapir
wispy nest
dense tapir
oak osprey
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my model isn't trained for anime but it has interesting results nonetheless

oak osprey
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@crimson dawn

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come to the dark side

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touch the sky, install gentooooo

cyan snow
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this is unsettling, i just typed negetive prompt: earth, humanity

smoky oak
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Oh my haha

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I have played around with messing with negative and positive prompt switches for a bit, and it can do some fun stuff haha

dense tapir
cyan snow
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usually there is also a positive prompt, but when there is only negative it can make nightmare fuel

smoky oak
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I believe the way it works in actual implementation is just that it tries to lower the triggering of tokens associated with those words

cyan snow
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it made this again

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i guess what ever that is it's the least simmilar thing to humanity.. lol

smoky oak
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It's not triggering exact opposite, it's just triggereding everything but humanity

cyan snow
smoky oak
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Because it's consistently triggering everything but

cyan snow
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huh

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reminds me of that LOAB thing from a while back

wild sorrel
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here's humanity for a reference thinking

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beautiful thing on right side

cyan snow
dense tapir
cyan snow
dense tapir
wild sorrel
dense tapir
cyan snow
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this gives me backrooms vibes, idk

dense tapir
cyan snow
smoky oak
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My grandmother just asked me to print her a poster of one of my gen tests I did 😅

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I don't even know how to print a poster lol

oak osprey
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fax it lmao

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@smoky oak if you wonder why i get pissy at the shitty samplers in Automatic it's because i get poor reviews on Civit because it doesn't work with new, fixed, 2.1 models

smoky oak
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Just add a disclaimer that it's not compatible with auto/Vlad/Ana

oak osprey
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the thing is, i did get it working alright in there but i never fuckin remember which sampler it needs KEKL

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that was still just mediocre results in comparison to a normal clean pipeline

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i'll add that though

smoky oak
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I have seen the results you have gotten compared to what I can get, and they are considerably better for sure, but not nearly enough to make me use something else for "better" samplers

oak osprey
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yeah i wouldn't expect anyone to

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i'm not sure how to phrase an issue and i don't have the energy to sit there defending it to the maintainers, who are unpleasant people already

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i know they'll ask for more info and debug logs and, rightfully so, but, i'm tired all the time lmao

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maintainers

cyan snow
oak osprey
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u havin' a strok thar bruv?

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i think you meant unpleasant, but that's not how i'd approach them with the issue

smoky oak
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My bad, I read your message wrong

oak osprey
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it happens

smoky oak
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I'm already super tired as it is 😅

oak osprey
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i remember you had a headache yesterday, is that still a thing

cyan snow
smoky oak
oak osprey
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that rules out anyeurism and brain hemmorhage

smoky oak
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I do seem to get them when I sleep for very long amounts of time. I slept for 11 today, yesterday was closer to 15

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My whole body in general is really going through it with my fibro

oak osprey
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sleep is dumb like that

smoky oak
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It is a flare based disorder, after all

oak osprey
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not enough sleep? headache. too much sleep? headache.

cyan snow
smoky oak
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I was doing very good for the last few months, but it just came in with full force a few days ago, and is not letting me go

oak osprey
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he's partnering with snoop chibiHappy

smoky oak
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I don't smoke, never will haha

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More for everybody else tho lol

oak osprey
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fucking awesome broken text encoder on a new test run

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that's supposed to be a child

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it's a dog horse shoe wearing monstrosity

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he shops at cabtankro too

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celebs are so relatable

cyan snow
cyan snow
dense tapir
dense tapir
smoky oak
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@dense tapir have you seen SnapFusion?

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Very interesting stuff, wanna get my hands on it

dense tapir
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SnapFusion?

smoky oak
# dense tapir SnapFusion?

Yeah, so its a diffusion method that runs on phones in a couple seconds, and apprently it has a massively more efficient and higher quality yeild than SD

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very curious to see what comes of it

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Imagine if we could get this new tech finetuned like SD and running on high end PC hardware

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you could to images per second on a 3060ti more than likely lol

dense tapir
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Well, I watched it and I await it on my PC

oak osprey
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demon cat

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looks like it'll produce the kind of deformed shit that i love

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oh, they distilled the unet

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joe penna was saying they're thinking of doing that with SDXL but that it is devastating to the results

dense tapir
oak osprey
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working on a realism model 🥺

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be gentle

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@smoky oak how do you like that so far, even though she has no dangerous features visible

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eg hands or face KEK

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i'm not sure how to prompt for that without getting something scary

wispy nest
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I use words like ashamed and groan
wait, ahhh! you mean as in what to write as prompts! ;P

oak osprey
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oh you

wispy nest
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just use what you're feeling in the prompt! :D

oak osprey
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this guy is a good omen if you see him during training

wispy nest
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*now

oak osprey
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in case you didn't know

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training an image model is like fuckin around with a Ouija board

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you can communicate with the dead

wispy nest
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when I trained/made embeddings my test prompt was If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck :P

oak osprey
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the robot pouring coffee sometimes looks like it wishes for a better life

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like, what life lies beyond the doors of this coffee shop, for me?

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none, because you're a coffee pot

wispy nest
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taxes, and lots of politics

oak osprey
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you think it'd run for orifice?

wispy nest
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yes, both kinds

oak osprey
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sing the orifice song

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hey that guitar is hella in-tact

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so close to looking correct

wispy nest
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when I try and learn how to get X I make like 2000 images with the word or words at different places and focus :P

oak osprey
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well i'm training quite a few thousand steps and each checkpoint makes like 13-15 images across a surface area of concepts eg. man, woman, child, robot, etc

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would take too long to do all of those that you suggest 😛

wispy nest
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and I wouldn't suggest you do either because most of the images are really, REALLY boring, but I still save them all for some weird reason. I'm kinda a horder when it comes to computers, or what's in them :P

oak osprey
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i have used the same prompts on the same seed so many times. i have seen this douche bag in so many crappy knight costumes

wispy nest
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like when trying to understand how the ai places hands :P

oak osprey
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this is a first tho i've not seen this kid looking like a kodachrome image

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see what i mean? lol

wispy nest
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you start noticing similarities in people the ai makes after a while. There's not that many version of "a standard face" it makes without extra stuff

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I add stuff like evil, sinister, etc before the "person prompt" to make it slightly different

oak osprey
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its paintings are beginning to become a lot more painted

wispy nest
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but is he a real wizrd?

oak osprey
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you tell me

vocal cloud
oak osprey
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you can tell the text encoder fully froze now

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the changes between checkpoints are pretty minimal

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lol SD 1.5

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@smoky oak my model is being used now to fix DDIM

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by huggingface

dense tapir
crimson dawn
# dense tapir Here comes the mining days again.

people blame mining often for the high demand of GPUs, but those guys saturated their market very early. GPU purchases from them only ever was to replace their old hardware and sell it off . Gamers who combed ebay and weren't afraid of mining cards were fine.

Some other demand came from data centers. even back then. Cloud gaming isn't that huge of a market, but those companies were buying up all the hardware. Stadia was ready for primetime and they expected it to be huge. It wasn't but they had the hardware ready to go. Yes that means clusters of GPUS in server racks. ML research has been going on for years and has gotten to this point because research labs have been flexing gpu clusters. they've probably even been buying up all the old mining hardware as it's replaced.

the real silicon demand eater is the military industrial complex. A whole side of the market that consumers don't have any idea about. They're taking in so much silicon and that's why there's a manufacturing shortage and companies like nvidia got to strategize to fill demand

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if you're running a business and intend to suceed, you don't leave money on the table whenever you can

sterile temple
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also 1.5 lol!

smoky oak
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That looks sick

dense tapir
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No, I saw it myself in 2020/2021 people going to BestBuy and leaving with basket/cart loads and some entire damn pallets of GPUs.

crimson dawn
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runway ML made a really good base with 1.5. one of the best so far probably

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Bestbuy is like, small beans compared to bulk orderers. I'm surprised you saw that. most bb managers would just sell the entire palette before it came in

dense tapir
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Reason I never upgraded I couldn't get to them fast enough

wispy nest
dense tapir
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they did here. first come first serve.

oak osprey
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SD can do cars so well. it's actually one of the major biases when you do unconditional guidance. but looks like an atomic bomb dropped moments earlier

crimson dawn
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Yeah. Consumer stores were only getting 5 at a time in some places. It was just high demand in all marktes

dense tapir
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That shit was happening all over the USA with many pics, and vids, of people doing it

oak osprey
dense tapir
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Theft was up too with shipments just POOF

crimson dawn
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miners were just one demand source that got the lions share of the blame, but hardly even a lions share of the use

oak osprey
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it works like the human eye in many ways because when you're not looking at it, it's fine, but when you zoom in, it's like the eye didn't focus, and you zoom in on the garbage the optic nerve shows in the peripheral

crimson dawn
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hardware scalpers always suck. i'm not against reselling gear you own, especially if people want to pay higher than msrp. but if you're buying it JUST to flip it, that's scuzzy

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buying 10 to sell them? maaan

oak osprey
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just curious if microcentre falls under that rule because it kinda sounds like it does lmao

dense tapir
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well, it was a complete combo that happened and Nvidia, as I said at the time, along with AMD, was causing a lot of the issues with scarcity. We now know that was fact that we later had pretty much confirmed.

wispy nest
oak osprey
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oh it does but less

dense tapir
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Now we have Nvidia, and AMD, trying to continue that gravy train.

oak osprey
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drunk camera is drunk

wispy nest
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less is not a number ;P

crimson dawn
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apple is manufacturing their own silicon these days too and driving the profit margins on it higher too

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amd an nvidia just rise with the tides

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well nvidia rising faster than some. up there with apple suddenly wtf

dense tapir
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No card in 2023 should cost what they are going for. I mean AMD or Nvidia especially with how much they have been gutted.

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They love Apple and wish to emulate Apple's business model.

crimson dawn
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well given market conditions, the unprecedented demand for the hardware, they do cost that much. they could charge more and they'd still sell out

oak osprey
crimson dawn
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microsoft is getting into making hardawre for themselves because they see it as the only way to survive

oak osprey
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all AI images are just garbage noise being turned into projections

crimson dawn
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amazone is starting to make their own silicon too

dense tapir
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Of course they could sell the mother fuckers for 10k each and still sell out but that DOES NOT make it right just greed.

oak osprey
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to me, deepfloyd is the least garbage

dense tapir
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Oh, shit Amazon silicon. ffs

crimson dawn
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demamd for more hardware isn't going down and supply will only increase with more mega factories, which are hard to increase

oak osprey
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i don't use it much til stage3 is out

wispy nest
oak osprey
wispy nest
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that's not how turbo works! :P

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or is it 🤔

oak osprey
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it's marketing material i made for a friend

crimson dawn
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i dont know enough to disagre, but it looks right

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turbo go brrrr

oak osprey
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trust me thats how it works

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theres pipes

wispy nest
#

you had me at me :P

oak osprey
#

honestly deepfloyd is incredible, it's just inaccessible

dense tapir
#

I am probably going to go AMD as I have seen the numbers. I want an Nvidia but I simply am not going to fellatio Huang to get one.

crimson dawn
#

turbos have pipes. internet has pipes. turbos have pipes. get it?

wispy nest
#

this is what turbo gave me :P

sterile temple
#

I work in the automotive industry and can say that's exactly how turbo's work

crimson dawn
oak osprey
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want the prompt?

wispy nest
#

good to have that cleared out by someone who knows! :P

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nah, the way I write prompts I wouldn't be able to use it in the same way I'm used to. If it doesn't include some nice prompt words I haven't tried yet that is :D

dense tapir
#

I hate how Nvidia made an exclusive deal with Best Buy for their cards and BestBuy never has any PLUS is going bankrupt and closing stores to try and stop it. Any 4090 FEs you see in the wild are people who are reselling them for 500 over MSRP

oak osprey
#

i think it took me like 8 tries to get that image the way i wanted

crimson dawn
#

i typically build 5 year machines. last machine was all amd. i ran linux on it because i was sick of installing drivers so the cpu cores wouldn't park anytime i updated, or having my gpu suddenly decide to run with half lanes for no reason. the drivers on linux just work as they should on amd hardware. the windows side is like a constant struggle.

oak osprey
#

which i considered pretty decent for the result i got

crimson dawn
#

this machine i just finished is intel/nvidia. dawn of a 5 year journey

oak osprey
#

linux has better GPU drivers for nvidia and amd nowadays

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nvidia's linux stack is completely open source now

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it's kind of wild

wispy nest
#

I get what I want from the ai every time*
*does not include the 2000 test images I tried first

oak osprey
#

the source code for their driver was leaked and like 3 months later, it was open sourced

crimson dawn
#

So i've heard! When i tried to install my preferred garuda (iknowiknow bloat but i like features 😛 ) i couldn't get the nvidia stuff to recognize so i went windows instead. Might try to dual boot here eventually, but for now at least i just want it to run

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still got my steamdeck running steam os so i can be like "i run arch" legit still

oak osprey
#

idk waht the fuck garuda is lol

crimson dawn
#

bloated arch with all the fixens

oak osprey
#

i use gentoo on my laptop which has amd and nvidia graphics both

#

i have to maintain something like 38 kernel patches to make it work because of lenovo's shitting the bed

#

they keep promising a firmware fix is coming KEKL

crimson dawn
#

gentoo on a lenova laptop these days? at least you've got that

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okay that's actually a good flex

wispy nest
#

things I've yet seen the ai be able to make are any sort of long talons/claws, or blades like a cyber mantis or something for character's arms :P
Very none suspiciously specific thing, I know!

sterile temple
crimson dawn
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tons of these images are available. train.

smoky oak
#

The anthro model I use can do claws and tallons, but of course on Anthros lol

smoky oak
#

Maybe I will

wispy nest
crimson dawn
#

with cyberpunk 2077 photomode you culd get them on 100s of characters and settings

oak osprey
#

perfection

crimson dawn
wispy nest
#

I want sane results without having to do any work! Is that too much to ask? ;P

oak osprey
#

yes

wispy nest
#

😭

smoky oak
wispy nest
#

why can't I get everything I want without effort? I must be cursed or something >:(

oak osprey
#

cursed like these guitar strings

crimson dawn
#

i love when things are automagical

wispy nest
#

ahh, another wizard from the school of auto-magic

oak osprey
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i'm training this model with offset noise and terminal SNR together KEKL

wispy nest
#

another fellow wizard*

smoky oak
oak osprey
#

ALL THE NOISE

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offset noise = more noise, terminal snr = end with zero noise

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BATTLE

crimson dawn
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that reminds me. im want to train this gobbly eye aesthetic

oak osprey
oak osprey
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it'll make your training data you desire

crimson dawn
oak osprey
#

i think overtraining more likely to do that head-kicked-by-mule look

crimson dawn
#

no but i was thinking like, more comical. like take 100 photos of people and add random weird eyes to them.

oak osprey
#

use a googly eye filter from snapchat hahaha

smoky oak
#

That could actually probably work lol

oak osprey
#

or a face swap and do everyone as steve buscemi at 50% strength

crimson dawn
#

how can i make a name out of "head kicked by mule syndrome" that. i feel like there's opportunity to use ass here

wispy nest
oak osprey
#

ass... head... think ass-head syndrome

crimson dawn
#

there's potential

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feel like oppenheimer before the bomb got built

oak osprey
crimson dawn
#

welp, cya later

wispy nest
#

this need to become the industry standard

oak osprey
#

ngl i didn't think it'd be hard to get that

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it wasn't easy

crimson dawn
#

That's cool

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once i unfocus the blindspot tho...

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still cool but...

wispy nest
#

why do that thing(?) remind me of abe's odyssey?!

oak osprey
#

yea it wouldnt be my chosen image but none others have come out with any kind of long weaponry

crimson dawn
#

(i didn't actually leave i was just quotting a fave from d&d)

wispy nest
#

but yeah, having a image with claws etc can happen, I just wish there was a way to have great results 99% of the time :(

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(great as in what I find is great :P)

oak osprey
#

it doesn't match the desire but it's really cool still 😁

crimson dawn
#

just freeze yourself till sd is awesome like that

wispy nest
#

no need to freeze myself, sleeping is one of my specialties, I can fall a sleep before finishing a whole sente—

oak osprey
#

😅 📢 🧓🏽

sterile temple
#

looks like the training images for swords and the like are absolute garbage

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mostly low quality mmo screenshots or alibaba store stuff

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and a lot of cropped swords too

crimson dawn
dense tapir
sterile temple
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hypercars vs sword

oak osprey
#

that explains why the wizard looks like he's from wish

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it's alibabaaaa

crimson dawn
#

swords have been around a lot lot lot longer than hyper cars. more images of shit swords because shit swords exist and are widely photographed.

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archeological reasons or something dumb like that. get it outta the ai!

wispy nest
dense tapir
smoky oak
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I was just dicking around with sound design, and managed to make this nasty ass bass

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Loud and intense warning lol

sterile temple
oak osprey
#

that prompt had something like [radio jingle] at the beginning

smoky oak
#

uhhh

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interesting

oak osprey
#

it's a GPT language model trained on audio waveforms

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so like CLIP is image-caption pairs, this was audio-caption pairs

somber moth
#

Noo

oak osprey
#

so you can make audio of people arguing at a basketball game

somber moth
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Why not

oak osprey
#

eexactly

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if you prompt it, Uh, hi, I'd like to order an oat milk latte it'll actually sound like she's in a coffee shop

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it has basically, context, on top of the audio voice

sterile temple
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I could use an oat milk latte 😴

oak osprey
#

my current fork of Bark is outdated, there's been a lot of developments since that sample was made, and it's higher quality now

sterile temple
#

trying inpaint sketch

oak osprey
#

my realism model training progress

sterile temple
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img2img to clean up the smudgies

wispy nest
#

if you use auto1111's webui, then get the neutral prompter instead, it's awesome :D

smoky oak
#

I have messed with it, but I am not sure I understand too well how to use it as of now

oak osprey
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i cant see its face but i know its better than the other leopard geckos i had

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cute lil bugger

wispy nest
smoky oak
#

do you have any info/documentation on how to use those sorts of things properly? I would love to learn

wispy nest
#

sure, I'll get the links and PM you them as I don't know if it's ok to share links here :)

smoky oak
#

It should be, as long as they aren't to problematic sources haha

sterile temple
#

please share. I found the examples in the readme confusing

smoky oak
#

same here

wispy nest
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https://github.com/ljleb/sd-webui-neutral-prompt
https://github.com/hako-mikan/sd-webui-regional-prompter
these two, I tried them and now it feels like I never want to use anything else! :P

GitHub

Collision-free AND keywords for a1111 webui! Contribute to ljleb/sd-webui-neutral-prompt development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

set prompt to divided region. Contribute to hako-mikan/sd-webui-regional-prompter development by creating an account on GitHub.

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and I can answer some questions on how to use them if you want, though I have only used them since yesterday'ish so take that will all the salt you want :P

smoky oak
#

do you have any examples of things you have been able to do? I would love to get an idea of what kind of stuff can be achieved with them together

sterile temple
#

png info says a 1000 words 😄

smoky oak
#

that as well haha

sterile temple
#

I found it really fiddly, you either get overbaked images starting to look like something from 2.1, or the prompt after the AND_SALT/AND_PERP just replaces the first prompt

smoky oak
#

so they are saying to use them together, and you get much better results, so I am looking into that at the moment

oak osprey
#

what will you make

#

tell meee

smoky oak
#

I am not sure at the moment

oak osprey
#

did you get it working

smoky oak
#

ok, I see what they are doing here. Very interesting

oak osprey
#

that's like mixture diffusion

smoky oak
#

it is, this is only one half

oak osprey
#

it gives you a way to make vectors and inpaint areas with prompt for them

#

i dont get that but its cool

#

it actually looks easier than mixture diffusion

#

man, did you try that shit? impossible KEK

smoky oak
#

ok, so apprently this isn't just location based multidiffusion

smoky oak
oak osprey
#

would be cool to put one of your subjects in a field or something with mixture diff

wispy nest
oak osprey
#

you can do that easily

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three "a grassy field" prompts, as you want them to look. and the middle prompt, with your subject

smoky oak
oak osprey
#

i haven't played with overlap depth

#

that old man is a mood

sterile temple
#

has anyone tried the tile diffusion regional prompter?

oak osprey
#

that's what i was talkin bout

#

i have some tests

#

the best i was able to do on my own with 3 fresh prompts using isometric view as a cheat

#

the demo image i could not reproduce

#

the thing that led me to understand, "this is not easy"

#

before fixing it so it works with 2.1

#

which i kinda like, tbh, it's like, deep metaphor or something

#

i wasn't quite happy with this result but also an attempt to use more than 3 images

#

it gets weird

wispy nest
oak osprey
#

weird to see my wizard prompt become less magical

#

the other one still lookin like a painting tho, but that's in the prompt

sterile temple
oak osprey
#

this does both

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i just am not using the other thing because it's a lil more complicated and i just wanted to see it working

#

eg. i provide just three prompts this way and overlapping pixel areas instead of vectors that describe a region and a prompt

smoky oak
#

Trying to use this regional prompter with Walach, and I keep getting this error on start, anybody have any ideas?

oak osprey
#

well the kid is definitely going places

#

if you actually try with the prompt tho it's pretty good

sterile temple
frosty swan
#

thomashappemad

smoky oak
#

If thats the case, then damn it, looks like I am not using this extension

oak osprey
#

just update your local version file

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lie to it

#

ahahaha

#

"im new derpcat "

#

though yeah there's a bunch of new shit under the hood, why were you saying you don't want to update

#

other than torch2

smoky oak
#

torch 2 is the only reason really

oak osprey
#

is it actually a hard requirement

#

like for my stuff they're interchangeable

smoky oak
#

Its just worse

#

slower, uses more CPU, uses more VRAM

oak osprey
#

no i mean can't you run 1.13 on newer a1111

smoky oak
#

I have 0 desire to use torch 2

smoky oak
oak osprey
#

but there's no interface changes

#

to its api

smoky oak
#

no idea man

#

all I know is that torch 2 is objectively worse, and I am holding out cause I don't wanna lose perf and also lose resources

oak osprey
#

there's a few new methods to enable new speed stuff but that's so easy to avoid hitting if it's not there

#

wonder if SDXL is torch2 only kek

smoky oak
#

probably, and I would be fine with that as that is new tech

sterile temple
#

looks like it was first added in Feb, then updated in May

smoky oak
#

what was?

#

ohhh

#

great lmao

#

so it IS cause I have an older version of SD

oak osprey
#

1.5?

#

confused lmao

#

detail

smoky oak
#

so in order to use this I will need a newer version of A1111

oak osprey
#

that's the "shit under the hood" is the cfg callbacks

#

that's to work with terminal SNR too

smoky oak
#

so now I have to sacrifice perf and resources in order to use this new tool

oak osprey
#

there's probably flags / switches for sdwebui to bring that back somewhat

#

i wonder if it can use torch inductor at all

smoky oak
#

Just saw how old my SD is

#

pretty impressive

#

almost 4 months old

oak osprey
#

in 13 more months it will be born

sterile temple
#

just reading through a github thread about torch 2, looks like there was issues when it first came out with the nightly builds, and people found the performance much better if they built it locally. not sure if those issues have been addressed by now

smoky oak
#

I guess I could give a second install of auto a test

#

I didn't care for Ana UI, and VLAD is a POS, so I'll try auto

#

I don't even remember how to install it lmao

#

its been that long

oak osprey
#

this dude's lit. i hope i look like that when i'm 40

smoky oak
#

ah yes, white hair at 40 😅

oak osprey
#

it's aleady started

#

there is no fighting it lmao

smoky oak
#

LMFAO

#

wait lmao

#

ADATA needs to go back to primary school math lmao

oak osprey
#

this is me at 50

#

1600w is a nominal rating

smoky oak
#

ah yes, 4x 450 watts with 1600 watts

oak osprey
#

my solar panels are rated for 1980w but that's in nevada at certain time of year. i see more like 2100w here in canada

smoky oak
#

it needs 2 wall connectors lol

oak osprey
#

i am willing to bet it voids the warranty to do that lmao

smoky oak
#

cause it can supply more power than a single outlet can provide lol

oak osprey
#

it's like a, "just because we can, doesn't mean you shall"

#

oh wait

#

are they marketing it for that

smoky oak
#

I wonder how much it is lol

smoky oak
oak osprey
#

can != should

#

the Jurassic Park theorem

smoky oak
#

I wonder how much it is

oak osprey
#

axiom

#

well i have a 1600w psu and i don't fuckin remember how much it was but it's probably not that one

smoky oak
#

so apparently, they were able to keep it under 2250 watt load with no problems

#

which is like...

#

That is just ASKING for an explosion lmao

#

found the price

oak osprey
#

yeah but okay, so, a 747 jumbo jet famously can land on an aircraft carrier. once. it is rekt after that

smoky oak
#

$800 PSU moment

#

just get 2 PSU's lmao

#

get 2 1200 watt PSUs for less than half the price 😅

sterile kiln
smoky oak
#

wait a sec

#

it has 1 wall plug

#

what

#

well that doesn't add up lmao

oak osprey
#

20 amp circuits are common now

#

the plugs are.. .not rated for that, but

#

YOLO

#

maybe they tested it in Europe

#

can get like 3000w out of an outlet

smoky oak
#

yeah, they better get ready to be sued when people try that on a 15 amp circuit lmao

oak osprey
#

breakers flip for that reason

#

well, unless you weld a penny in there

smoky oak
#

fair

oak osprey
#

they'll probably still get sued

smoky oak
#

its just like how people think that extension cables are dangerous, but they aren't lol

#

just have to use the right power rated ones lol

oak osprey
#

depends on the cable, the current

smoky oak
#

yeah, but that doesn't make them dangerous, that just makes you stupid lol

oak osprey
#

extension cords at the big box stores for outdoor use are a pretty dumb design

#

those are all pretty dangerous

#

underrated like mad

#

er, overrated

#

the bad one

#

one of the problems is that the same plug is used for everything

#

should be a separate plug type for higher current circuits, or at least keyed so there is one sideways

#

there is but it is up at like 220v

sterile kiln
#

Yeah, yolo, and in 6 month, you can send back your cards to warranty.

the most destructive for advanced electronics are undervoltages, an unstable voltage curve. which must largely be the case

oak osprey
#

well those liquid nitrogen tests are pretty destructive in the same way

#

you have to well-insulate things and corrosion still sets in even with petroleum jelly caking everything

#

electromigration is more hidden than that, and is invisible damage to the actual conductors

smoky oak
#

yeah, but that is not a common usage comparitively

oak osprey
#

yeah but eg. high voltage going into CPUs can be a spectrum from long term damage through electromigration or immediate explody like AMD had

#

same for PSUs

smoky oak
#

yeah, thats true

oak osprey
#

they just rode the razor, baby

smoky oak
#

had to recommend against Ryzen 7k to a family member because of the whole mobo manufacturer situation

#

so annoying

oak osprey
#

i mean i would recommend against it for other reasons, that one to me is pretty low on the list right now tbh

#

it's a solved problem, but others are potentially not. or, not yet. and after buying first gen threadripper i'm like, wait and see

#

the 1900x was a weird one, it got no attention and they basically ignored its existence and the 3700x was great. i like my 5800X3D but the 5800H has some firmware issues

#

we have EPYC systems that i'm abusing for ML stuff and they're pretty crap tbh, overhyped for a majority of use case unless that's like, extreme threading and PCIe I/O needs

#

trying to convince them to acquire some i9 systems but really something like an ASIC for Pytorch would be really cool

#

that single thread limit is really brutal

#

bitcoin miners used asics back in the day

#

probably the issue with pytorch on there is that everything changes so rapidly it'd probably be obsolete quickly

oak osprey
oak osprey
#

shits' gettin weird KEK

#

the knight now has a kid

smoky oak
#

so he is holding off on the upgrade for now

oak osprey
#

the motherboard was at fault

#

asus chibiYell

smoky oak
#

yeah, and its still an ongoing issue on some

Asus had to released 3 fixes to get it "working"

but its happening to other brands too

oak osprey
#

eh we'll see, the melting cables from nvidia ended up being mostly user error

smoky oak
#

User error for a poorly designed and effectively recalled product lol

oak osprey
#

had no issues with mine

smoky oak
#

Looks like the 5 top brands affected in order were Asus, MSI, gigabyte, ASRock and BIOSTAR for Ryzen burning

oak osprey
#

it sits at 500w for hours and hours

#

biostar what the hayull lmao

#

they're still alive?

smoky oak
#

Yeah, doing decently well

oak osprey
#

how have htey not been sued out of existence

smoky oak
#

I wish EVGA was still around sadpuddle

oak osprey
#

every garbage motherboard i ever had, biostar. and one gigabyte slot 1 CPU mobo that had a hairline crack

#

oh, an intel x79 board had broken clock source

#

shame on them, they fucking invented TSC

oak osprey
#

i like to think the owner of EVGA (Anthony) saw the keynote in advance and was like

smoky oak
#

hmm...

#

this pytorch 2 install isn't too much slower

#

about 0.7it/s slower

#

not too terrible

oak osprey
#

might not do same native res as before

#

i had to fiddle with it on my 8gb laptop

smoky oak
#

the idea of having to install all of my extensions and stuff again makes me wanna puke

oak osprey
#

can't you symlink them

#

windows does have it it's just limited

#

anyway im goin to bed

smoky oak
#

I have tried, but I have never been able to figure it out

#

its like 15 steps

oak osprey
#

hm :\

smoky oak
#

oh great, can't have both versions on at the same time either lol

#

new version goes out of its way to disconnect the old one from its webserver

sterile temple
#

have you switched this off?

smoky oak
#

I'm not sure, I'll check when I get back to my computer

smoky oak
#

windows settings is showing nothing

sterile temple
smoky oak
#

Ah, weird that you can't search for it

#

its off

sterile temple
#

that's good

smoky oak
#

Was hoping it was on so I could get better perf or something lik

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*lol

sterile temple
#

mine was on. got a 10% performance improvement when I switched it off

#

😄

smoky oak
#

I remember when torch 2 was said to give you a big uplift in performance, so much for that lol

sterile temple
#

have you tried the various launch options like --opt-channelslast --opt-sub-quad-attention --opt-sdp-no-mem-attention?

smoky oak
#

I have tried opt-SDP attention or however you put it

#

That basically doubles my performance

#

It's still slower than xformers on torch 1.3 tho

#

I will give those other ones a try though, I have not seen those last two

sterile temple
#

funny when it generates the camera mentioned

smoky oak
#

@sterile templeok, I tried them all and it was slower

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gonna mess with individuals now

sterile temple
smoky oak
#

ok so, looks like SDP and channel last is as fast as 1.3 for me

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I did have channel last on 1.3

sterile temple
#

cool

smoky oak
#

@sterile templeSeems to be faster with sub quad attention

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14.73it/s to 15.18it/s

#

gonna drop channel is last and try just quad

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14.5it/s without channel is last

#

SDP and no mem att is 14.95

sterile temple
#

bit faster than mine 😢

smoky oak
#

retested and it seems all of them on is the fastest lol

#

I had a YT video that was slowing gen perf lol

#

all of them on got mr 15.37it/s

#

so about .7it/s faster than 1.3

#

hmmm

#

wait a minute

sterile temple
smoky oak
#

@sterile templeIt looks like these optimizations severely lower batch perf

sterile temple
#

oh really, I don't usually use batches

smoky oak
#

its not as bad as I thought, but it is slower

#

1.3 is 2.49it/s, and 2.0.1 is 2.36it/s for 8x 512x512 images

#

ok, so pytorch 2 has slightly faster post processing, so it kinda offsets the slightly slower batch size perf

sterile temple
smoky oak
#

I have been on normal up until now

#

just set to max, lets see if it makes a difference

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

seems to be basically the same

#

worth a try tho lol

sterile temple
#

--no-half-vae

smoky oak
#

that just makes things slower in general

sterile temple
#

have you replaced the cudnn dll files?

smoky oak
#

not that I know of

smoky oak
#

what am I supposed to do here?

sterile temple
#

download the windows installer. open it like a zip file

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cudnn\libcudnn\bin\ there are several dll files

smoky oak
#

oh, is this just to update my cudnn?

sterile temple
#

yeah i think so, the version pytorch is using

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copy them into this folder stable-diffusion-webui\venv\Lib\site-packages\torch\lib

smoky oak
#

Pretty sure I am on 11.8 as is

sterile temple
#

people say replacing these dlls gave them a performance boost

smoky oak
#

alright I guess

sterile temple
#

I just did it, but I don't have a 4090 and it seems about the same for me

smoky oak
#

wait, how do I open a .exe as a zip? never done that lol

#

ohhh, I see

sterile temple
#

I originally just copied the temp directory path it showed in the installer, once it extracted there, before it finished installing I just went to that directory

#

I have 7zip installed so there's an option in my context menu to open the archive with that

smoky oak
#

which one?

sterile temple
#

torch

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then lib

smoky oak
#

ok, replaced them

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lets see I guess :p

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watch my perf eat ass lmao

sterile temple
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hope it does something, or nothing at least

smoky oak
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I did it on the new install, so no worries if it dies lol

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seems to have made no difference

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oh well

sterile temple
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at you can say you tried it lol

smoky oak
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the perf difference does seem to be ever so slightly in the favor of pytorch 2 with those optimizations you shared

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I think I am just gonna update my base install so I don't have to deal with transferring things

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I will copy the venv just in case, that should be enough, right?

sterile temple
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backup that and the extensions folder

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or just rename them

smoky oak
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alright, YOLO

sterile temple
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I'm on the dev branch myself, risky business. I did it to try out that tensorRT thing, turned out to be 40% slower on my card

smoky oak
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oh you got that working?

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👁️ 👄 👁️

sterile temple
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yeah it was fairly straight forward

wispy ether
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always use batch size 1

smoky oak
wispy ether
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gtx card?

sterile temple
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3060

wispy ether
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same

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let me try

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this right

sterile temple
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yes

smoky oak
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oh righhhttt

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I remember why I couldn't do it

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cause NVIDIA lost my account lol

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oh!

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it worked this time!

wispy ether
smoky oak
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I have to make a whole profile and BS lol

wispy ether
sterile temple
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use the install from URL option

wispy ether
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i did too

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stderr: Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\Lukag\Desktop\stable-diffusion-webui\extensions\stable-diffusion-webui-tensorrt\install.py", line 29, in <module>
if trt_paths:
NameError: name 'trt_paths' is not defined

smoky oak
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can somebody send me the tensor RT file or something? NVIDIA is cockblocking me

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I don't have an organization/university name and URL

sterile temple
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can you send files in discord?

smoky oak
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uhg, I will probably have to find it on reddit or something

wispy ether
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i mean i can use a file host

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@sterile templehow do i apply tensorrt

smoky oak
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if I could download it myself, I would

wispy ether
sterile temple
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I just followed the instructions on the github page

smoky oak
wispy ether
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file host*

wispy ether
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like i did

sterile temple
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If it's private use, just put your name in the company. That's what I usually do

smoky oak
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I don't have a URL tho

wispy ether
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chill

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im uploading

smoky oak
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lmao

strong sonnet
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What do you think of it?

strong sonnet
smoky oak
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@strong sonnetI am mostly interested in why the hell somebody would use 150 steps lmao

smoky oak
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thats not how steps work

strong sonnet
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So the deaatils are much clear rther than they just smoothing out

smoky oak
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20 steps is plenty lol

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there is almost no visible difference

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hell, I do 15, and 10 for upscale lol

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That is 15 base, 10 upscale

wispy ether
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but guys

smoky oak
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@sterile templeshould I do Tensor RT 8.6 GA or EA?

wispy ether
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how do i install the tensorrt zip

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i mean apply

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is that fine