#🏞|general-with-images

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dense tapir
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LOL

ocean hawk
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Hey folks! Does anyone have a moment for a little special request or are you guys busy?

oak osprey
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always busy

ocean hawk
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I know I could learn this on my own but it's something super specific and it'll be super quick!

oak osprey
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always brewing

ocean hawk
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I need this meme but with someone else's face on the guy

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It's george berkeley, the philosopher

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Is it too tough or is it possible?

dense tapir
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easy peasy if the model knows him

ocean hawk
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There's unfortunately maybe 3 or 4 paintings of him only, is that a big problem or?

dense tapir
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no, you will need to train it then

ocean hawk
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Is attempting it right now an easy task or would it take a lot of your time?

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I know I came out of no where with this, haha, but honestly it doesn't have to be amazing quality...

dense tapir
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Training requires time

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with some to a lot of effort

ocean hawk
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Yes, but like just a pic2pic thing where you tell the model to put this ancient dude's face on it...

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Is this something I can try easily or would I have to learn to code to do it?

dense tapir
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yes, use 1.5 and controlnet

ocean hawk
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To me that doesn't say much, but it's normal because I don't really know SD at all

dense tapir
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use the reference model

low compass
ocean hawk
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Yeah, again, this is like... Already a lot for me, but probably because you already know this

dense tapir
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I don't use 1.5 since Dec

ocean hawk
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Cool... Now is there a way to get him inside the meme or would that be complicated?

dense tapir
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not complicated with controlnet

ocean hawk
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And uh, do you think you could do it for me? Or are you busy with something else right now?

ocean hawk
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You're in luck, I love awful quality

low compass
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I dont know how to use control net but I can try with inpainting

ocean hawk
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Thank you, you're a god send

oak osprey
ocean hawk
low compass
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trying

ocean hawk
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Sorry, haha, I just have no idea how these things work, I was making sure.

dense tapir
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First try

ocean hawk
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YES

low compass
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it makes noise image somehow

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i dont know why

ocean hawk
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It's all right, I love noise image. Haha, I'm kidding but this definitely does the trick!

dense tapir
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Now comes the refining process

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This would take a long time due to the quality of that man's face image

low compass
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I keep getting this kind of image

dense tapir
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LOL, wth?

low compass
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probly photoshop is better idea 😅

dense tapir
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Yes

dense tapir
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@ocean hawk

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Best I can do without a whole lot more time so I am done.

low compass
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I just pasted image 😅

dense tapir
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Now back to my style testing

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Style is nice but it tore the subject up in their faces, sheesh

vocal haven
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Hello. Are the bots still down? Are you sharing old pics? Or is anything wrong with my Discord? Did I broke discord?

dense tapir
dense tapir
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Here is the rest of them

oak osprey
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RIP

dense tapir
dense tapir
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damn, really like it that one time it worked

wispy ether
dense tapir
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Lower left now wtf?

oak osprey
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mine had a chihuahua eating a nacho in an awful way

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with like, humanoid hands

oak osprey
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it's downloading a bunch of crap into a venv

dense tapir
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of course

dense tapir
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maybe reduce the tile size

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Not sure what SD was thinking.

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Seems to be an AI issue

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Hands, feet, and water it loves to shove half the body under it

oak osprey
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oh

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i figured out why the ckpt converter script stopepd working

dense tapir
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??

oak osprey
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i have an fp32 file for you now

dense tapir
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fp32 on a 6gb will zap all my ram.

oak osprey
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it's what yours needs, apparently

dense tapir
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I use pruned fp16 all the time

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don't confuse my 1060 with a lesser version 1650/1660 as they have to have that

oak osprey
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well i recreated both files anyway

dense tapir
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in safetensor?

oak osprey
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ckpt files

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i still don't know how to make them safetensor

dense tapir
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ckpt should work fine

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I can convert to safetensor easily

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if it works

oak osprey
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idk i'm assuming the file was corrupt or something

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i have no way to really test it

dense tapir
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I think it was

smoky oak
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I just made an extremely grave mistake, and now I'm paying for it lol

dense tapir
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how?

oak osprey
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too much chili?

dense tapir
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LOL

smoky oak
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I applied silicone with my bare hands because we didn't have any gloves or disposable tools

dense tapir
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ZAP

smoky oak
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And that would have been fine, if it was not waterproof

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So I just had to use every chemical under the sun in order to get it off my hands lol

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Butter, exfoliating salt, vinegar, alcohol, acetone, degreaser

dense tapir
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wait, silicone is easy to remove until cured

smoky oak
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I finally got most of it off to where my hands are just barely sticky

smoky oak
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This silicone is made to be applied underwater, so it's extremely hydrophobic

dense tapir
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if you mean silicone grease that is the grease part that is shit to remove

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I have never had any silicone not be water proof

smoky oak
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No, it's silicone adhesive

dense tapir
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oh, fuck that shit

smoky oak
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Regardless, it was a huge pain in the ass to remove lol

dense tapir
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that white stuff that once cured you have to break it

smoky oak
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I did get it off of my hands luckily, but it took everything and the kitchen sink

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Not even joking, it all went down in the kitchen sink lol

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Safe to say I will never be doing that again

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The acetone was the only thing that ended up working, and I had to use a ton of it

oak osprey
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oh noo

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don't put that down the sink

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i watch a plumber on youtube, that shit will fuck your pipes up

smoky oak
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The acetone didn't go down the scene, it evaporated off my hands

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*sink

oak osprey
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the silicone

smoky oak
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Even then, the only thing that actually got it off was the acetone, and that was done with a lot of acetone and paper towels

dense tapir
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Acetone melts ABS/PVC

smoky oak
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It was very very little, just a little bit on my pointer finger in my thumb, but it spread everywhere

dense tapir
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like a boss

oak osprey
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this guy

smoky oak
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I know, that's why I made sure not to use the acetone in the sink

dense tapir
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no worries unless you pour an entire bottle down the drain

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If it fell in, an entire bottle, flush with gallons of water

smoky oak
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I frequently work with acetone, vinegar, and isopropyl alcohol because I do frequent 3D printing

dense tapir
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same

dense tapir
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I ceased to 3d print though as I never had many successes with it due to first layer adhesion no matter the printer. After 8 years (since 2012) I gave it up.

oak osprey
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"MOM get OUT, i'm handling my glue!!!"

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👃🏽

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🕯️

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wait

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wrong emoji

dense tapir
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Just sit back and allow the gas to take effect and it will all be over shortly.

smoky oak
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I level my printer like once every 30 prints and do almost no maintenance between now

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And damn, you can get exceptionally good quality printers for less than 300 bucks now

oak osprey
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i used Toluene a few times for doing bad things.

dense tapir
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I gave up after 2020 as it was just too much. PLA I never liked

smoky oak
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I've been thinking about trying out that new open AI 3D model thing to try and create 3D models of my characters and 3D print them

dense tapir
smoky oak
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I print mostly PLA, but I also print PETG and TPU

dense tapir
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I liked PETG and ABS but ABS needs an enclosure

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tbh, the resin printers I was so hoping for but the LCD panel are consumables, and not cheap. The resin is better priced but not cheap.

smoky oak
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There are plenty of ways to print ABS without an enclosure, it's really just a matter of knowing what you're doing

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One day I want to get my hands on PVDF

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The safest and most dangerous material to print lol

dense tapir
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ABS in a room in the winter at about 40-50f ABS beyond about 10mm will do nasty shit

smoky oak
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Okay yeah, that's not an ABS thing, that's a lack of any form of temperature control thing lol

dense tapir
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precisely, and breezes are bad too. Hence the need for an enclosure to control it better.

smoky oak
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What, are you printing it outside in the middle of a freaking tundra?

dense tapir
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controlled environment

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yes

smoky oak
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You're joking, right?

dense tapir
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no. The house that stuff is in is about 8f-12f higher than outdoor in the winter. In the summer it is about ambient.

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summer at 95-100f ABS loved that

wispy nest
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damn general, where you live, tatooine?

smoky oak
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I don't even know what to say lol

wispy nest
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and sytan that pfp is dope dude

smoky oak
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of course its not gonna work when you put in 0 effort to try and regulate it lmao

smoky oak
wispy nest
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noice

dense tapir
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why do you purposely ignore what I said about an enclosure? There is the effort I put in.

smoky oak
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There it is

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all compressed to hell in gif form lol

wispy nest
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makes me wanna do mushrooms

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portobellos i mean

smoky oak
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lmao

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I am due for a new PFP iteration

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I have had this PFP for got... 8 years now?

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or well, my logo

wispy nest
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that's branding in action. noice.

smoky oak
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Some of my old iterations

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This is a better pic of the glitter one

dense tapir
smoky oak
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Oh, i also had this one

wispy nest
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that'll be what ends the earth. you become an evil genius with a space station and hit us like the dinosaurs got their shit rocked down in yucatan or wherever exactly the big one hit

smoky oak
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lol

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This logo survived a whole rebrand, cause I was able to find something that worked with it

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I used to be Scyth Sergal

but now my brand is, you guessed it, Sytan

dense tapir
smoky oak
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was able to keep the SY symbolism lol

dense tapir
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I like best the upper right and lower left

wispy nest
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so is deep floyd not usable in auto or others? like i dont see any deep floyd images in here ever i dont think

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yeah those are tight

dense tapir
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next would be the lower right

smoky oak
wispy nest
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but they got a deep floyd section here 🤷

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XL hopefully brings some heat back to stable, I feel like midjourney kinda took over the game in most people's minds

smoky oak
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MJ is more accessible for most, but also inherits the "its ok" aspect of being for the masses

dense tapir
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Problem is, at the start, that all the new modern Nvidia cards can't run SDXL until they prune them they said.

smoky oak
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yeah, that as well

dense tapir
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Need 10-12gb so a 4070ti

smoky oak
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and then it will be slow as hell

wispy nest
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oh damn i didnt know that

smoky oak
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also 10-12 GB seems very low

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unless deep floyd is smaller than SDXL

dense tapir
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they say 10-12 but who knows

smoky oak
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Cause the devs said for SDXL you will need 2.5x the VRAM of 1.5

dense tapir
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alright that would be about 12GB then

wispy nest
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and yeah i kinda hate midjourney, but still stable's been kinda stale for a while. like the last model they released that people really used was 1.5

dense tapir
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as the dev told me

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Look at that bottom right one. I want to explore that more

wispy nest
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yeah i like that background general

smoky oak
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although, I must say, 1.5 may be old, but man it can still hand MJ its ass when you know what you are doing haha

wispy nest
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maybe. my buddy has a mj sub and i have to say i was pretty blown away last weekend by the photo real shit he could, esp with reference images

smoky oak
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I think many people who praise MJ just haven't seen it in a while, cause its always not as good as you remember, as @oak osprey very much saw in his new MJ inspired model

oak osprey
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MJ for some reason works really well with 2.1 as fine-tuning data, and becomes more coherent than either alone

smoky oak
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alright, I'm here, I'm Queer, and I have a new idear

oak osprey
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i didn't even clean up the dataset

wispy nest
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idk, i wanna hate mj, but its pretty damn impressive

oak osprey
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i kind of did when i retrieved it, just by limiting to 1024x1024 squares

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it's impressive when you look at the cherry picked samples, but so is SD1.5 and SD2.1 then

smoky oak
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Also, pseudo, I am considering sharing the formula for LoRA regularization. Just not sure where to post it really

oak osprey
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reddit :/ if it goes up as a Kaggle notebook it will never be found

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@dense tapir i just push forced the ckpt files, god help us

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maybe it'll work

smoky oak
dense tapir
oak osprey
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true enough especially with fine-tuning but most people are honestly too dumb to pull it off

dense tapir
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I give it a spin once it is done. Just give me a link to it.

smoky oak
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@oak ospreydo you have the config working now?

oak osprey
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i didn't know it were broken

smoky oak
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if so, I can give it a spin and see what I can get out of it

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meh, I am trying it

dense tapir
oak osprey
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wow, it's been dry and hot here for a week or two and it's pouring now

wispy nest
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where you live bro

oak osprey
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Canada

dense tapir
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I lost my garden and no plants will grow and many are dead or dying in my city as it has been cold and pouring

wispy nest
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noice

dense tapir
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we are in the little zone between the hot and the hot due to Super El Nino

smoky oak
dense tapir
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Man I hate humidity

oak osprey
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same

smoky oak
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I love humidty

dense tapir
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give me the weather of the high desert

oak osprey
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that sounded and felt gross and made me uncomfortable

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humidity so thick you can slice it like a fart

smoky oak
dense tapir
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Love it

oak osprey
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it's not a competition Kappa

smoky oak
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I love humidity. Makes me feel so much better

dense tapir
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I hate it here in the South where it is 95f-110f and 85-95^ RH.

smoky oak
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Sleeping in ultra low humidity is a one way ticket to breathing problems

dense tapir
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Swamp Coolers

oak osprey
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my lungs work best when they gently crackle like old pages of a long forgotten book as i breathe to the rhythm of the earth 🤗

dense tapir
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If you don't have one in the high desert then yeah, bad

oak osprey
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swamp coolers themselves are a ticket to lung butter

smoky oak
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swamp coolers suck. I hate them

oak osprey
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like, you want lung butter? that's how you get lung butter

dense tapir
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nah, had one for a decade no mold or other nasty shit

oak osprey
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well, pro tip number one. don't try building it using an old used RV sewer hose

dense tapir
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LOL

oak osprey
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learn from my uncle's mistake

dense tapir
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sewer hose? wth?

oak osprey
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he's an "engineer"

smoky oak
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only thing that can keep us cool here is real AC, not crappy swamp coolers

oak osprey
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WRONG. trees keep you cooler than AC would 😄

dense tapir
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No, they actually still make them. I find it far easier to add humidity than I do in the deep south to get rid of it. High humidity is bad for joints, and people with Arthritis.

oak osprey
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hits 50C out here and in a clear cut field with no trees it's pretty bad

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50C = 122F

dense tapir
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yes

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I was going to ask if you were in the low desert such as Death Valley but you said Canada.

oak osprey
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yeah, it gets hot here

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like, hotter than i experienced in Texas

smoky oak
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the main thing I hate about the weather here is our UX radiation. Its about as bad as it gets and I would kill to not have it

dense tapir
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People live there and act like it is nothing. I touch it and explode

oak osprey
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naw in texas at least you get cloud coverage

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we have this high pressure ridge all summer that keeps clouds nonexistent

dense tapir
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Spent most of my life in South Texas.

oak osprey
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same, near Galveston

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i haaaaaAAAAAAAAAAte it there

dense tapir
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Worst place was Laredo as you enter the town and it was melting tires and felt like you stuck your head in an oven.

smoky oak
dense tapir
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was downtown. 113f and humidity too

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I smh at the low desert of DV

smoky oak
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I would 100% take 100% humidity low UV heat over high UV dry heat

dense tapir
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To me high desert is NM, and NV in my mind. Both beautiful and actually more than a mile high. A lot of UV though.

oak osprey
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my sweet spot ^

smoky oak
dense tapir
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Yes

oak osprey
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jk but our wildfire season is raging already

dense tapir
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Model almost done downloading

smoky oak
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its too dead out here to have fires, luckily

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oh, I forgot I downloaded it lol

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testing now

oak osprey
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wake up sytan🔊 🧓🏽

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you need to take your geriatric pills

smoky oak
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there is a non 0 chance that you may get me to actually use a 2.x model

dense tapir
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What I hate most about here beyond the pain from the humidity? the damn 75-150 foot tall trees. I like trees no more than 20 feet so tall enough to shade the house but not tall enough to destroy it.

oak osprey
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well i expect it to suck, just so my feelings aren't hurt when it does

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i know you'll find like a million issues with one image and then give up

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i knoooow it

smoky oak
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oh what the hell

oak osprey
smoky oak
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I got a first time error

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ummm

oak osprey
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oh no

smoky oak
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I got an IP binding error

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huh

oak osprey
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da fuk

smoky oak
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oh!

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SD was already open from when my friend was using it remotely

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can't bind to the same IP 2 times

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I thought he said he closed it. Oh well

dense tapir
oak osprey
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how did my computer get this way

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help

dense tapir
smoky oak
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Alright, time for me to roast the hell out of your model :p @oak osprey

dense tapir
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I need the .yaml for this

oak osprey
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the hell does that link do

smoky oak
dense tapir
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Mine refuses to load it

smoky oak
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weird

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@oak osprey....

oak osprey
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this config is their own thing fwiw

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i have no idea how to make one

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that page tells me shit lmao

dense tapir
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Yep, I can't load that .ckpt

smoky oak
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pseudo

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you mad man

oak osprey
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what

smoky oak
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this model rocks lmao

oak osprey
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oh? the alpha checkpoint? 😄

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im glad to hear that

smoky oak
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easily the best realism I have gotten out of 2.x

dense tapir
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There I did the hack

oak osprey
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your prompts are pretty good tho

smoky oak
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it doesn't have that signature crunchy I get from all 2.x models

dense tapir
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I grabbed any and copied it over. blame that on Auto btw

oak osprey
smoky oak
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its not as good as 1.5 realism models of course, but this is insanely good for 2.x

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but you're also not focusing realism, so that's to be expected

oak osprey
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yeah i didn't go for realism training so it's basically just fine-tuned what's already in 2.1

smoky oak
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I am happy with this for my first gen

oak osprey
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it had SOME photoreal data but really it's good at digital art

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it'll follow whacky prompts pretty well

dense tapir
smoky oak
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oh my god

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I am stupid

oak osprey
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can you paste that working yaml if it works General

smoky oak
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I take it back

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I take it all back

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it didn't load your model lol

dense tapir
smoky oak
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it defaulted to a lesser 1.5 realism model lmao

dense tapir
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TOLD you

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use that yaml and it will

oak osprey
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🧓🏽

dense tapir
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DUDE, my card will not run your model

smoky oak
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ok, I have it now

dense tapir
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I does all the steps then throws an error

smoky oak
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and its not functioning

oak osprey
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-_-

dense tapir
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nope, his model is broken

oak osprey
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that tool is broken

smoky oak
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you have a NaN issue

dense tapir
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Yep

oak osprey
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like, the diffusers layout works

dense tapir
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same as with me

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we can't use diffusers directly though

oak osprey
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oh

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are you two loading a custom VAE

smoky oak
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yeah, this model is broken

smoky oak
dense tapir
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no, I tried auto and none

smoky oak
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doesn't work with any VAE

dense tapir
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modules.devices.NansException: A tensor with all NaNs was produced in VAE. This could be because there's not enough precision to represent the picture. Try adding --no-half-vae commandline argument to fix this. Use --disable-nan-check commandline argument to disable this check.

oak osprey
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isn't there an extension that just loads huggingface hub models directly

smoky oak
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that won't fix anything

dense tapir
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Yeah, there is no fix for this

oak osprey
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hmm, i found a Hugging Face Hub Space that'll convert the diffusers model to a safetensors file

smoky oak
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please try it

oak osprey
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idk, the converter script i used seems to be expecting SD 1.5 dimensions

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i didn't think that'd matter, heh

dense tapir
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Nope, I converted it and all I get is the nan issue or disable the check and a black box

oak osprey
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you converted the ckpt file?

dense tapir
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I'll let sytan go first

oak osprey
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this space converted the .bin file

dense tapir
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Nope, even fp32 is a no go

neon crystal
oak osprey
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seems like a bug in that piece of crap again

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sorry, whatever is in A1111 is breaking 2.1 models

smoky oak
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I can use other 2.1 models fine, you just didn't export it with the proper config

oak osprey
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i literally keep telling you, that config is their own invention

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i don't use their tools for training, i use diffusers, which is standard

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they make their own shit up at a1111

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and that thread makes it sound like having xformers installed is causing it

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there's 141 hidden comments on that bug report too

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but i'm sure i'm just, ya know. not exporting it correctly or whatevs

smoky oak
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I have never used a 2.1 model with this issue, so I would naturally suggest some form of error on your part

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all of the 2.1 models I have used come with configs

oak osprey
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This worked for me as well.
Settings > Stable Diffusion > Enable option "Upcast cross attention layer to float32".

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all of those people likely used A1111 their whole way through. i don't do that. it doesn't even run here when i did try to load it up so i could convert my model.

dense tapir
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Let me try that but it will be extremely slow

oak osprey
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that's just the cross-attention layer, but maybe

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SD2.1 needs to have the cross-attention layer in fp32

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it is susceptible to floating bit errors

dense tapir
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I agree with you and have been saying script kiddies are at the helm of A1111 for eons. I know other, real devs, that saw his original code and ran. They haven't been on this discord in forever but I still check in on them.

oak osprey
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well the config might help but i literally copied it from realism engine

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so if it doesn't, i'm not sure what they changed about their 2.1 model. maybe it's not really 2.1.

dense tapir
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so was mine

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the problem is you are fighting against a horde of A111 legion of zombies. You alone cannot win.

smoky oak
oak osprey
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it does, always has, and just happened without you having to set it

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your images would be tooootally garbage if you didn't have it on

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or just black

dense tapir
oak osprey
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nice

dense tapir
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I see it at the very end hiding in what you said

smoky oak
oak osprey
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idk it runs great on my Ampere and Ada cards 😛

smoky oak
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2.1 is considerably slower than 1.5 in my testing

dense tapir
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didn't help

smoky oak
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alright, cool, so its not just that

oak osprey
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my suggestion, read the bug report. seems like diffusers >0.17 might have issues. jesus lawd are you guys running nightlies of diffusers?

dense tapir
oak osprey
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there's a shitload of people who say enable that option fixes it, there's others who say even with that option it didn't work but they had to upgrade or downgrade diffusers

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hmm torch 1.13, interesting. but i don't see the diffusers version there

smoky oak
dense tapir
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no idea as I don't use diffusers with auto1111

oak osprey
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@smoky oak as in, you can run them right now and they work fine?

smoky oak
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yup

dense tapir
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yes

smoky oak
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most don't even have configs

dense tapir
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yep

oak osprey
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well i don't know, i'm having trouble caring either lol, i fucking hate that tool

smoky oak
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like JungleRally's model, his works just fine

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no config needed

dense tapir
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You see in 2.1 VAEs are actually baked in. I hate it but SAI did it that way

smoky oak
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yup, upcasting to fp32 just gave me several new errors

oak osprey
smoky oak
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an impressively big error

dense tapir
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see this? This is what happens behind the scenes when a model lacks a config (it loads this default).Creating model from config: F:\stable-diffusion-webui\repositories\stable-diffusion-stability-ai\configs\stable-diffusion\v2-inference-v.yaml

oak osprey
# dense tapir You see in 2.1 VAEs are actually baked in. I hate it but SAI did it that way

facepalm that's a thing about A1111's models. again. SD2.1 comes with VAE bro, but it's in its own folder.

feature_extractor/:
preprocessor_config.json

scheduler/:
scheduler_config.json

text_encoder/:
config.json
pytorch_model.bin

tokenizer/:
merges.txt
special_tokens_map.json
tokenizer_config.json
vocab.json

unet/:
config.json
diffusion_pytorch_model.bin

vae/:
config.json
diffusion_pytorch_model.bin

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in no way is it 'baked in'

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and you can just say pipeline.vae = .... and set it manually to the 840k one

dense tapir
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well, SAI said 2.1 was but not 2.0 so no idea

smoky oak
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^

oak osprey
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idk they're really shitty about releasing documentation for everything tbh

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unless i missed it in some pdf i never read

smoky oak
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isn't that an understatement

dense tapir
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hehehehe

oak osprey
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is it simple enough on Shitblows XP or whatever you're running to go to xformers 0.19

dense tapir
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wth is this? I loaded another model with the fp32 thingie checked and typed boy at 5 ddim.

smoky oak
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alright, deleted your models, and I am going back to LoRA training

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I have a client waiting on an end product

oak osprey
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oh that reminds me of the scene from James and the Giant Peach

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with the cloud storm and the rhino

dense tapir
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Loved that film

smoky oak
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now that I know the actual formula for regularization, I should be really in business

oak osprey
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🤓

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nerd

dense tapir
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If you notice about SAI they just throw shit at us then move on never giving apis, or tools, or anything just here, take this and shut upo to see you again in six months.

oak osprey
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huggingface does more for them than they should tbh lmao

dense tapir
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I agree

oak osprey
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most of the progress we've had is from HF

dense tapir
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tbh, SAI makes Automatic seem actually professional.

oak osprey
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Transformers, Diffusers, and their work on Pytorch to surpass JAX

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and TensorFlow

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lol @ google

dense tapir
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making that nimrod noodle look professional is a hard deed to pull off but SAI manages it.

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what I do not know is if it is simply non caring or incompetency. I lean towards the former.

dense tapir
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Did you ever try their tool for SD? Wouldn't work without a lot of work and I finally got it to work to have absolute rubbish. I was told that was made just as a proof of concept. well, shit

dense tapir
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sorry your model doesn't work for us out here. I did get it to one time so a fluke but that NaN is a tough one

wispy nest
wispy nest
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ive been trying to get it to do anime, everything looks kinda washed out though.

oak osprey
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use the 840k VAE

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it is known for high contrast. the Anything V3 VAE might work better.

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but, in general, VAE is what you need to adjust first. and if no VAE helps, a LoRA.

smoky oak
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@oak ospreydo you have any feedback for gradient accumulate steps?

quaint stump
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How to make logo

crystal deltaBOT
#
FAQ: How do I generate images? Is there a bot on the server?

Currently, there is a public bot on the server that generates images available as a research beta for SDXL, you can find the current status of the bot in #1047610792226340935. There are plenty of ways to use Stable Diffusion such as the official https://dreamstudio.ai/ website or by running Stable Diffusion locally using your own hardware - check out #1080946152318443610⁠ for more details! You can also stop by #1025467151206854736 for any issues you experience while using DreamStudio or #🤝|tech-support for any problems you encounter while installing it locally!

oak osprey
#

@smoky oak fewer is better i think? because it needs more vram. i'm assuming - that more context means more coherence.. but just guessing

wispy nest
oak osprey
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might be getting that backward too. basically, double-check with GPT

smoky oak
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alright, interestig, thank you

quaint stump
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Command for logo design

smoky oak
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I am gonna try BS20 right now just for fun

smoky oak
oak osprey
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i need to sleep pepeLost

smoky oak
#

it is astonishing how people do not read messages that people send

quaint stump
#

@smoky oak where can I generate images

crystal deltaBOT
#
FAQ: How do I generate images? Is there a bot on the server?

Currently, there is a public bot on the server that generates images available as a research beta for SDXL, you can find the current status of the bot in #1047610792226340935. There are plenty of ways to use Stable Diffusion such as the official https://dreamstudio.ai/ website or by running Stable Diffusion locally using your own hardware - check out #1080946152318443610⁠ for more details! You can also stop by #1025467151206854736 for any issues you experience while using DreamStudio or #🤝|tech-support for any problems you encounter while installing it locally!

smoky oak
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I already sent it before

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alright, I am trying BS 20

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wish me luck :p

wispy nest
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now this turned out pretty cool, though the hands and face of course are messed up

oak osprey
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Sytan did you have any LoRAs enabled when you tested my model

quaint stump
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piston electronics

dense tapir
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I didn't

oak osprey
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a custom sampler?

dry crow
dense tapir
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ddim

smoky oak
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DDIM

oak osprey
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i've never used that before

smoky oak
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Euler A, and Euler

oak osprey
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oh

smoky oak
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none worked

dense tapir
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nope, none

wispy nest
dense tapir
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I had a model I train do this to me one time

wispy nest
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yeah looks quite a bit more crisp with the vae

dense tapir
#

nothing would fix it I had to retrain then no issue

oak osprey
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well that's curious

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this time the thing made them separate

smoky oak
#

alright, so it looks like my GPU can probably do... BS24

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BS20 is 9.1GB VRAM

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and to think my 3060ti was doing BS2 lmao

dense tapir
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Yeah, it isn't linear

oak osprey
#

so it seems like the .ckpt file might be broken and i think that was used by the converter to make that top level .safetensors file

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when the ckpt isn't there at all, it just makes the nested files

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but the one in unet is what you need, i think

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i guess if you wanted my VAE you could put that file into your VAE models folder, or however that works

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i don't know how the text encoder can be brought in

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it'll probably Not Work Good without that.

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hmm, in the sd21 repo it says Pickle next to the ckpt file.. doesn't next to mine there

smoky oak
#

ok, so my GPU is doing 4800 steps with 20 reg images per image in about 12 minutes

dense tapir
smoky oak
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youtubes movie recs are so random sometimes

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I have no reason for it to be showing me star trek

dense tapir
smoky oak
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ok, new LoRA is done, by far the lowest Loss yet @oak osprey

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0.0732

oak osprey
smoky oak
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time to see how well it hybridizes with the models built in style

oak osprey
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thats the spirit

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i love how you went from "that doesnt matter" to this now 😄

dense tapir
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Yep, not even a merge with your model works

wispy nest
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the faces are still so goofy

wispy nest
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that exactly what i was about to say it was

wispy nest
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some to do with space, and crystals

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maybe bread

dense tapir
smoky oak
#

New multi epoch regularization in a LoRA is a success

dense tapir
wispy nest
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ooo baby now were getting somewhere

dense tapir
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Think the second is better

static tusk
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first is missing a chin

dense tapir
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not really worried about those kinds of glitches I meant the style

ebon bramble
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White horse

static tusk
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#2 wins for style. agree

dense tapir
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It is that sort of Jumanji look to the style

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One of my negs removes the style and I am trying to track it down

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I think it is my neg embeddings which forces realism

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yep, that is the problem

wispy nest
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its now spiting out stuff im happy with, although only like 1/10 are really nice like this one

dense tapir
wispy nest
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ooo thats pretty

dense tapir
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Thank you

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Yours is nice as well.

wispy nest
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thank you

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ive been slowly refinig the prompt, i should go to bed its 2 am

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but its so cool

dense tapir
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Addicting, I know.

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I ran those as I showered and I like this one

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Yeah, a lot of those are good after looking at them.

smoky oak
wispy nest
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the upscaling appears to be working

neon crystal
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Light tone experiments with 1.5, 2.1, XL and Kandinsky

smoky oak
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Got a random spark of inspiration and made this little vibey atmosphere

sterile temple
#

listening

smoky oak
sterile temple
cyan snow
oak osprey
#

oh wow @smoky oak my dataset had a major issue i introduced with my dataset retrieval script soooo i'm amazed these results are as good as i've gotten. i'm reworking things and probably will begin from scratch again with wider coverage from the start. and my new plan is to push a few hundred epoch into training and then generate class images from the model and continue again with prior preservation

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that way i can basically overwrite some of 2.1's worst regions with better coherence and then, preserve what i've added as i go deeper

hazy knot
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so guys is this like totally a fake site

woven dawn
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lmao nah that isn't necessarily fake

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That is just because a lot of watermaked images were in the training data

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I thought it was a flawless getty-images stamp

hazy knot
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so it isn't just taking images from online and blurring them?

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I've never used ai before

woven dawn
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Nah it is generating them from scratch. No clue what stable diffusion model its running, but it doesn't look that good. Maybe 1.4? If you're looking to use SD, I of course will recommend running it locally if you have the hardware to do so.

hazy knot
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yeah i am considering downloading something

cyan snow
wispy nest
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playgroundai used to allow you to create ai images, but I haven't checked the site for a long time.

oak osprey
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@dense tapir i am thinking of an experiment where i regenerate class data at each 1k step checkpoint

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so i can slowly re-teach everything to the model without blowing it away before the checkpoint is taken, and then, refresh what it knows

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this will be so incredibly slow but maybe it's worthwhile

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i'm thinking of this because the current workflow everyone is using for training is to generate class data from the checkpoint you started training from, but, my goal is a general fine-tune and i need the structure to be a bit more accepting of change than that, i think...

cyan snow
cyan snow
wispy nest
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the "real" old wizard :P

cyan snow
oak osprey
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lively bunch

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@smoky oak going back to April in here and looking at gens is a disappointing walk down memory lane

oak osprey
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those aren't bad, but they're certainly different

bright stream
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Minecraft Frog vs helicopter

plain meteor
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matching shell suits / track suits from the 80's.. sorry I had to share.

oak osprey
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haha, try 1994 winter olympics curling event

wispy nest
pallid snow
#

A sleek news website inspired by the colors black, white, and yellow, reminiscent of https://ntvkenya.co.ke/. The homepage features a dynamic layout with bold typography, contrasting black and white sections, and accents of vibrant yellow. The top header showcases the website's logo and navigation menu, while the main content area highlights the latest news articles, accompanied by eye-catching thumbnail images. The overall design is modern and clean, exuding a sense of professionalism and credibility. The website is rendered as a visually appealing illustration, digitally created with meticulous attention to detail, bringing the concept to life with vibrant colors

neon crystal
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80s Bollywood Scifi style

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That was fun. Never worked with motion before.

neon crystal
neon crystal
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Damn this is hard to top.

oak osprey
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just use my model, i released it at like, midnight

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it's friggen wild

neon crystal
oak osprey
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pseudo-journey and the v2, but i don't know how to make them work in A1111

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they work in the hugging face spaces though :/

neon crystal
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Awesome. I play around in colab and replicate so its cool 🙂

cyan snow
neon crystal
neon crystal
cyan snow
#

was it leaked? or is this like openjorney?

neon crystal
pastel mango
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mmm cyberpunk

neon crystal
pastel mango
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its my own model

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or well one of em is made by DG3, the other isn't

neon crystal
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Ah ok cool. Will explore this too

pastel mango
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It's a natural language model that can also understand booru tags and qualifiers etc

oak osprey
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it's a 2.1 base 768x768 model, finetuned with a few hours worth of MJ 5.1 gen data, about 3,000 images for v1 and then another run for 13,000 more steps on the same 3,000 images for v2

neon crystal
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Neato. Will give it a spin soon. Thanks for the share

oak osprey
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currently training another one that will take much longer with 22,000 images and class regularization data from my first v1 checkpoint as a baseline, since it will relieve the optimizer of doing a bunch of that initial work while still retaining much of the initial 2.1 flavour

oak osprey
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it's currently generating 152,000 class images

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@smoky oak big boy training

hasty nova
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I'm working on finishing up the dataset for DD v3, which will be a complete retrain from scratch.

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500 images total I think

oak osprey
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im excited to try yours because careful curation generally results in higher robustness

hasty nova
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Im curious, how do I make the reg images and how would it improve my model if I do make them?

oak osprey
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i do enjoy the chaotic and creative stuff my model comes up with. you should try it on your server, i did not put any NSFW images in there.

hasty nova
oak osprey
#

so Sytan uses Khoya for LoRAs and he had to manually generate all the images and place them into a folder

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and then just point the thing to it

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it improves coherence but honestly i'm not sure that using prior preservation with baseline 2.1 is super useful unless you're doing a very long, very slow training run, with a LOT of new data

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baseline's outputs are quite frankly, very bad. i'm going to tune my new model from about 4,000 steps i did on top of 2.1 that ended up really refining its outputs without changing it too much, and use prior preservation on that checkpoint to ensure i keep the remaining variety of baseline 2.1.

hasty nova
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But I do plan on doing a much longer training with a lower learning rate

oak osprey
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my data includes new concepts but didn't have some of the baseline concepts, eg. geckos were lost about 13,000-14,000 steps into training

neon crystal
oak osprey
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you can see damage occurring to the text encoder because "leopard gecko" produces an almost correct leopard gecko in the beginning and then gradually shifts to a big cat leopard shaped like a gecko, and finally only a leopard, and then, a leopard tank at 15,000 steps and the gecko AND the leopard are lost.

hasty nova
oak osprey
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i cannot do that actually

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i'd have to code that into the source provided by the dreambooth project people

pastel mango
neon crystal
hallow sparrow
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Can I ask help with ControlNet 2.1 here?

neon crystal
oak osprey
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"Bollywood++ joggers in 1980s++ track suits run for Olympic-- glory in cinematic shots."

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WITH the quotes

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it has no idea waht it's doing

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"Bollywood 1980s track suit jogging++ meet Olympics-- in this surreal prompt, set fire to the tracks with your words!"

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"Bollywood '80s track suits and olympics merge++ - Create an electrifying cinematic scene featuring joggers portraying national pride-- and athletic glory in their track suits."

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Create a vintage++ cinematic scene-- inspired by Bollywood++ in the 1980s-- featuring jogging athletes++ wearing track suits-- as they run past++ cheering crowds on the Olympic++ track and field.

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that last one wasn't bad

oak osprey
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it made Bollywood Joe Biden

frozen socket
#

is it just me or are the pigeon holes in #1073085702927024128 confusing?

Ok I understand an image could fall into multiple categories but I'm looking at them and thinking ,"where do some of these fit in?"

Oh BTW I wouldnt open up the one of the girl in a white dress in a browser, download and open in PNG info (or equivalent) . No Really, don't.

oak osprey
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if these guys coming, i would be scared

neon crystal
oak osprey
neon crystal
oak osprey
# neon crystal Reinforcements activated.

"Kunal Kamra would explain the Bollywood version of Spiderman's origin story as a tale of corruption, nepotism, and power. He would describe how a young boy from a struggling family, with dreams of becoming an actor, is repeatedly rejected by the industry's elite. One day, after being bitten by a radioactive spider, he gains superhuman abilities and uses them to fight against the corrupt system that has held him and countless others back. Along the way, he battles corrupt producers, greedy actors, and unethical journalists. Kunal Kamra would highlight the darker side of Bollywood's past and use this fictional story as a way to shed light on the real issues that have plagued the industry."

frozen socket
plain meteor
oak osprey
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"Homer Simpson++ sitting alone at Moe's Tavern-- surrounded by empty beer bottles and a forlorn expression. "

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lol at jogging with hands in pockets

neon crystal
plain meteor
oak osprey
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that's what mine think sbart simpson is

pastel mango
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possessed for sure

cyan snow
oak osprey
#

i feel the same way, friend

neon crystal
neon crystal
# plain meteor

This has got to be the most bollywoodest one so far. Very 90s

neon crystal
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Speaking of collage, bollywood and obviously the reptilian aliens, here are some Bing generations with those 3 themes.I used to play with Dalle2 occasionally and was pretty underwhelmed compared to what we have with SD but damn the Dalle2 version on Bing app is slick! Had loads of fun with that recently when I didn't have access to my computer

pastel mango
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those are the simpsons if I lived in the alternate dimension, the mandella effect be real

plucky oriole
#

Any idea how to fix the NaN error?

oak osprey
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"the" NaN error?

plucky oriole
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Oh, my bad, as in "A tensor with all NaNs was produced in VAE. This could be because there's not enough precision to represent the picture. Try adding --no-half-vae commandline argument to fix this. Use --disable-nan-check commandline argument to disable this check."

neon crystal
oak osprey
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a couple others had that, i'm not exactly sure what causes it

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i am working on uploading to CivitAI which might "Just Fix" this

plucky oriole
# oak osprey is that with my model?

Not yours, just a random model, it seems to generate stages just fine, the preview shows them as they become more nittid and "final product" like, however, as soon as it ends, it says that, and produces no actual file

oak osprey
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interesting

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you might need the upcast option enabled

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someone else found it last night, it's like, upcast cross-attention layer to 32bit

neon crystal
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Signing off with this. Its pretty late here. Cheers

plucky oriole
oak osprey
#

in teh stable diffusion settings

plucky oriole
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ill try that

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otherwise ill try adding the no half vae in COMMANDLINE=

oak osprey
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man i wish it kinda knew better what track suits are

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that's hilarious though

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i have to specify Adidas

wispy nest
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I'd say it's the suit that confuses it

plain meteor
pastel mango
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It's not true Bollywood until there's very poor cgi

plucky oriole
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768*

oak osprey
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maybe, try 768x768 it sounds lke a native 2.1 model

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you could have a LoRA on top of it

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?

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text embeddings?

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something incompatible somewhere, go backwards looking at what works and go from there to eliminate the reason. might have to reset the tool config altogether

plucky oriole
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scaling it to 512x512 aswell as adding the no half vae commandline worked, il ltry with 768 768 now

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tysm for the hel

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p

oak osprey
plucky oriole
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yeah seems like the incompatiblity was the dimensions, doesnt admit anything over 512, maybe cuz its SD 1.5

oak osprey
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if you're doing ControlNet stuff at all it's very rigid about dimensions

plucky oriole
frozen socket
acoustic moth
#

anyone find control net + ultimate sd upscler actually lowers details in img? or am I missing a step

oak osprey
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the prompt matters a lot, and when you have an already detailed image it might help to lower the strength

acoustic moth
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i do between .1 and .4 strength

oak osprey
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if you're going from high res already, that .3 strength generally works for me, but when you go from like 512x512 to 1024x1024 you might need a 1.0 and the CTU prompt just 'best quality'

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that is how it is done in the example

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they take a puppy from 64x64 to 1024x1024 with phenomenal results

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and the CTU prompt was just 'best quality'

pastel mango
acoustic moth
acoustic moth
oak osprey
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the model that you use for CTU matters a lot

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mine is always different from the model i'm generating the initial image with

pastel mango
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indeed. Multidiffusion sort of splits it up into tiles and generates it anew with more detail using a upscale model and stuff. So you can do much higher quality upscales for less vram

oak osprey
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i am using one of the most NSFW models i could possibly train without breaking SD 1.5 to make good skin textures and i use that for CTU

pastel mango
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low denoise keeps the image the same

acoustic moth
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sorry whats ctu?

oak osprey
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controlnet tile upscaler

acoustic moth
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ah ty

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yea i agree, i have mixed results depending on the model used

oak osprey
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it might be nice to train a CTU-specific textures model someday

cyan snow
pastel mango
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1k to 2k to 4k with multidiffusion, using NMKD-UpgifLiteV2_210k

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denoise on 0.3

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granted it starts to show lost details at 4k so would need some inpainting

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especially the eyes

dense tapir
hasty nova
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Well, 500 image dataset done! I will prepare training tonight and let it run at a low learning rate for quite a while as I sleep and stuff, I will begin testing tomorrow afternoon.

oak osprey
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even the regularization data i am generating from pseudo-journey v1 is awesome looking kek

dense tapir
#

I wish we could see the images used for Control Net models.

oak osprey
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lol 💀

dense tapir
#

btw, one of the models missing from 2.1 is the image to image one where I can take and image and change it to night, or on fire, etc... That is one of the things I saw in the Adobe Beta they were bringing to Photoshop.

oak osprey
oak osprey
dense tapir
hushed pilot
#

Perimortem

smoky oak
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Anybody have any info or guides on how to add a character into a scene with inpainting without ruiniong the underlying image?

oak osprey
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that's also something the controlnet author is an asshole about sharing

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ah i found a v2 ckpt converter

smoky oak
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I really need to find a way to inpaint characters into a scene for this new commission I am doing

pastel mango
#

controlnet is kind of forking too isn't it?

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there are models and preproc not made by the initial author

oak osprey
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the original CN dude is all too thrilled about that since it means he doesn't have to do it, but those models suck

pastel mango
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they don't all suck, but as long as the models that are in use provide me with a useful tool for more accuracy. I don't much care about the personality of the guy

oak osprey
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well, you should, at least somewhat. the more pleasant they are to work with, the more progress we can make

wispy nest
#

I'd say it's the default personality for most "modders" or people who "gives people free use of X" :P

oak osprey
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he's a researcher on a team

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peer review is something important for research

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he doesn't want it

wispy nest
#

I read a couple papers from the SD team and I didn't really like them all that much. Not because of the research, but when they used words like "…with our world leading…"

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I need to say that I'm not 100% sure they are from the SD team, but from some ai researches. Don't know anyone by name :P

pastel mango
#

the SD higher ups are walking a very thin line right now when legislators want to apply pressure and laws for AI tools

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they're likely trying to minimize the negative impact on open source like we have

wispy nest
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I heard those things in december, but legal stuff never moves fast. will probably take years before we, the public, know what happened

dense tapir
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Seems he is going to put all his effort on that one.

dense tapir
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iow ip2p he already killed, and style? sheesh

pastel mango
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Maybe...But the problem with an AI generated character not being owned by you can easily be fixed. You use control net for a model in some sort of position, then you use a scribble on it to give some detail, then maybe you've taken a photo of some background and you use that as a tool to build your background. Then you add in your prompt, your personal model with which creating your character wouldn't be possible without. After this, you color grade and stuff in photoshop and the finished product is like 80% yours. The part that isn't, well without the stuff you've made, It's not possible to create that character using prompts anyway.

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then you laugh your way to money

wispy nest
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we're still early in the ai age so there's a lot to be done still :D

wispy nest
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that's why I don't really train or "do any work…" :P
I just use what we have and then update when new tech comes. Like this new thing called Lora. Hey, stop laughing, it's new to me! ;P

smoky oak
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peeng

oak osprey
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i think you would find it un-useful unless you wanted to make a realistic person LoRA

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i don't want to know who used that for what

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alice in wonderland pickle party

wispy nest
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what's the goal of your model?

oak osprey
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to have fun results

smoky oak
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its probably the first actually good SD2.x model I have seen

oak osprey
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with wide variance

smoky oak
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but I do need to find a way to run it so I can test it myself

oak osprey
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my goal was to introduce a bit of the magic of MJ without becoming MJ

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wanted to keep the flavour of 2.1 though. i didn't really succeed at that very well. it's entirely its own thing now

wispy nest
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nice, good luck with that! :D
I like the possibilities of 2.1 as it's better than 1.5, but the training data is very bad to me. If it was literally 1.5 but with the ratio of 2.x, then I'd be all over it :P

smoky oak
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I am really trying to find a way to pull this commission off so I can make some good money

smoky oak
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the versatility of this model keeps blowingh me away lol

oak osprey
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his model is what encouraged me to make mine

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that, and Artius v2.1

smoky oak
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yeah, it is a cool model, but it is still painfully 2.x in nature, and it still has a lot of the short comings of 2.x cause of it

wispy nest
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don't know if I've seen any images from them. People are kinda close hearted with those things here :P

smoky oak
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it has that signaturwe 2.x grit/fuzziness

oak osprey
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i love those two tho, as yeah they are major improvements over 2.1 while carrying a lot of its benefits

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pickle car

smoky oak
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one of the main reasons I don't use 2.1 is cause it just makes a lot of details messy/dirty

smoky oak
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2.x just always looks compressed/dirty to me, personally

oak osprey
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no you're right it needs about 1000 steps of slow training to bring it back to coherence

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you saw that Woman at the Beach prompt evolve

wispy nest
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I'd say that goes for most photos made with the ai in general, and also on 99.9% of every ai image when not using a upscaler :P

oak osprey
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here is roughly every 1000 steps in training

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around 6k steps it's starting to look way better

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this is with basically no negatives

wispy nest
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I've seen those things a couple of times. It's nice to see people work in trying to get better results, or different ones at least. But I also see what in my eyes are the problems that, also in my experience, people will not notice before it's too late :(

oak osprey
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robot subject has a different curve

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i plotted like 13 different prompts over the whole training session

wispy nest
hasty nova
oak osprey
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🙂

hasty nova
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anyway I wanna make some neat landscapes or environments

wispy nest
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I just like it when people are happy and create neat stuff :D

oak osprey
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an impossible landscape, inverted gravity, tetrahedron mountains, rivers upside-down, lakes inverted

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the prompt has tornado in it and while i don't see one i know it's lurking and the house people do not KEKL

hasty nova