🏞｜general-with-images

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are those grilled cheese?

[tired basin]

toasted sandwich yep

[crystal valley]

hoooly crap. I accidentally came across an AOC lora and boy

didnt think I liked this chick until I saw her potential 👀

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AOC?

[crystal valley]

i cant link it cuz ima git banned

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as in alexandria aoc?

[crystal valley]

yh lol

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💀

[crystal valley]

funny how civitai has no rules against deepfakes

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https://tenor.com/view/laugh-hard-laugh-laughing-hahaha-big-mouth-gif-17782946

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the pepperonis look like little bowls

[tired basin]

not getting the cheese pull though 😦

[crystal valley]

thats the least appetizing pizza ive seen

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its got veggies on it

so i agree

[kind quartz]

Hamburger pizza

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i used to have something similar to that

it was called a double cheeseburger pizza

[crystal valley]

dont get me wrong, I love eating high calorie sludge no matter what shape or form. but that's just amorphous

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The FBI agent watching your internet search history

[crystal valley]

and I cant decide if those are leaves or bellpepper slices

[kind quartz]

no it is simply hamburger without top

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did you know that a hotdog is technically a sandwich by law in an american state?

and so is pizza

[kind quartz]

and tomato is fruit

[crystal valley]

a hotdog maybe but not za

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with this lora i might be able to do cars at night properly now

[crystal valley]

yea it just works

now Im curious to see how many other good loras ive been missing out on

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oo damn

the reflections on that first one

and third

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yup it works great on car renders

[crystal valley]

https://civitai.com/models/33208/filmgirl-film-grain-lora

if this works in conjunction with the darkness lora ima nutt o:

[tired basin]

Detail Tweaker

[crystal valley]

that one is only for anime isnt it?

[earnest dune]

no

[tired basin]

no goes amazing on everything

[crystal valley]

o:

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this is one of the things on the page for it

[crystal valley]

ooooh just what Ive been looking for, perhaps

time to do some tests

[tired basin]

I've merged it into most of my mixes, they went up in quality immediately

[kind quartz]

i like movie grain, just not sure any slightly compression do not smears it out.

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sort of looks like gta 5 promotional material stuff

[sterile temple]

Someone needs to make a filters script to add stuff like film grain, or other effects to pictures after the generation

[crystal valley]

OMG

the added detail

looks like a burn victim

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🤨

send

[crystal valley]

you were warned

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oh my...

[crystal valley]

I love what it did to the b 👀 bie textures tho

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detail 1 is fine for me

💀

[crystal valley]

now to play around with these and mix them up o:

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wym by mix them up?

[crystal valley]

like use this one in combination with the lowra and film grain

you can stack em

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oh thats what you mean

[crystal valley]

these are now useful tools to further make my already good prompts even more insane 🤪

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im already mixing the detail and lowra

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the result is this

[crystal valley]

daaaamn

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i wanna lick the chocolate rn

[crystal valley]

the cookie looks good although the chocolate looks too waxy

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i mean if its a liquid sort of gooey chocolate

it could definitely look waxy

[crystal valley]

when it's completely dry maybe

[sterile temple]

Freshly baked chocolate chip cookie, close-up, gooey chocolate, golden edges, soft center, tempting, natural lighting, dark background

[mystic marlin]

Lowered McLaren P1 coming through!

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damn...

thats the best spider-woman i think ive ever gotten

and another damn to that car

i want one

[crystal valley]

it seems people here cant make up their minds as to what spiderwoman is supposed to look like

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why?

[crystal valley]

cuz ive seen about a thousand different spidey girls here

all different

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i mean all the spider-women i have done look different from each other

ill send a few

not the best selection i could give

[kind quartz]

why i got explicit message, when it is just comics like picture?

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but im not going to go through 3000+ images to find the best :-)

[crystal valley]

my point is I guess there is no consensus on what spiderwoman looks like

[mystic marlin]

We all know people don't care, in their minds the only thing that matters is if that she's hot. LMAO

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i mean yeah

she has to be hot

[kind quartz]

it is spider woman generated by stable diffusion, no piece of skin on here.... 😦

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oh believe me

there can be skin

[kind quartz]

but why they marked it as explicite and told me breaks

brakes

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oh we cant send that sort of stuff here

[kind quartz]

i am telling you, he is covered from top to bottom, no face nothing. Why why why

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oh

discord is just weird

[kind quartz]

yes

[mystic marlin]

Making me wanna go play modded Marvel's Spider-Man...

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man im really really really really loving this detail lora

[crystal valley]

u can mod that?

[crystal valley]

ik it just works so well

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on pc yeah

[crystal valley]

now im going back and redoing all my old prompts lol...

[mystic marlin]

Suits, animations, characters, combat, you name it.

[crystal valley]

is it worth buying it

[crystal valley]

cuz with this gpu I know it will run good

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what gpu you got?

[crystal valley]

3090

[mystic marlin]

Very worth it if you want to mod. I turned the whole game into an Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire experience.

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fuck...

i want one of those now

[crystal valley]

that game uses a ton of vram

[mystic marlin]

By the way, have a Dodge Viper.

[kind quartz]

this is much worse in terms of publishing @hearty karma

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?

oh right

yeah as i said

discord is just weird

hmmm i wonder if the detail tweaker thing can add detail to stuff like burgers and other food stuff

[crystal valley]

what I wonder is if the detail loras can be used in conjunction with CTU

cuz if it can, I think we just reached endgame

[kind quartz]

would like to have focus bit more up.

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man the faces i have been getting while using this lora are so amazing

[crystal valley]

there are caveats tho ):

I noticed sometimes if I use them, I get a completely different pose or even person

[sterile temple]

try it in the after detailer prompt instead

[crystal valley]

you mean when doing the CTU

[crystal valley]

wut

I dont have that

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what is that??

[crystal valley]

nonestly just looking at all those settings is driving me away

[crystal valley]

fuck am I gonna spend 2 hrs twiddling with all those nobs

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[sterile temple]

even has a hand detector

[crystal valley]

a more perfect balance

adding the grain lora on top made her look more like uma thurman

tired as balls rn but tomorrow I will try using the loras only during the upscale in the CTU prompt o:

[sterile temple]

I wish you could switch models to an inpainting model before doing the inpainting with after detailer

[kind quartz]

something went wrong, no tiles, just ordinary render

Not sure if box ring or coronation place 🙂

[earnest dune]

still looks good somehow

[kind quartz]

yes @earnest dune

[kind quartz]

Zoo garden with the animals and another cross creature. Zoo is in english supposing Zoo?

[kind quartz]

this is right

[kind quartz]

golden nintees twenties 🙂

[kind quartz]

yes nice, i just used
ektachrome photograph and it added some tone

[kind quartz]

🙂 green tone yes

yes nice. Adding space i believe changing something

[kind quartz]

@earnest dune having weird results. but put more weight on creature

i got only on first line
Daisies ((creature))

what about model? And DDIM but it shouldnt matter

there are not always creatures, some sort of seed fishing

[kind quartz]

You dont need the other lines as deep depth of field, or Ectachrome photograph, but i like them

also i noticed probably smaller number of iteration.

with model?

[oak osprey]

using correct VAE?

[sterile temple]

what are you trying to get?

[oak osprey]

it is probably the best option.

[sterile temple]

creature made out of daisies

[sterile temple]

like a daisysaur

[kind quartz]

it looks like daisy shaman 😄

[oak osprey]

stable diffusion 2.1 ftw

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so... you got cutesty creatures bernix

[kind quartz]

i maybe know reason
i am not using xformers

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... uhh

[earnest dune]

does it affect the imgs

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no it doesnt

[kind quartz]

but using --opt-sdp-attention
instead as i have 3070 and was suggested for 3000 4000 cards.

[kind quartz]

@hearty karma are you sure?

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yes

if its something to do with the seed then its not going to act the same on different gpus

[oak osprey]

it impacts image determinism

[kind quartz]

also i know very much depends on resolution, sizes of images and layouts

[oak osprey]

xformers will likely result in similar enough first picture but the 2nd through 4th in same batch are increasingly disconnected

torch compile does the same thing

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flower woman :-)

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now its just a woman with a wreath sort of thing on her head

[kind quartz]

just creatures 🙂

should be it is prompt 😄

[urban pasture]

Hey, i've been messing around with controlNet - was just wondering where I should go to ask a quick question about the weird ouputs I'm getting.

Didn't want to put it here because it doesnt seem like the right place but i hope yall can point me in the right direction for community based help for SD

thanks 😄

[kind quartz]

#🤝｜tech-support probably

[stone cipher]

AI

[sterile temple]

I wonder if the alternating keyword thing would help mix daisy and creature together

[daisy|creature]

[kind quartz]

what is your gpu? @earnest dune

o.k. so not that xformers alternative

or try interrogate that image, what you like and see what it will produce

i dont know but flavors.txt is sort of words used for interrogation.
Where do you have it?

o.k. i will try it then

a small bird sitting on top of a rock surrounded by daisies and daisies flowers in a field, Chris LaBrooy, behance hd, an ambient occlusion render, photorealism

but there should be as well negative prompt which is empty

no when generating positive prompt in A1111 it doesnt generate negative prompt. Main is:
extra limb, extra fingers, extra leg, extra arm, poor quality, bad quality, low quality, extra horn

o.k.

But i think negative matter same as positive

some things simply doesnt work. Creature from LEGO is working from Nodlles is working but not from flowers very...

try
creature by Arcimboldo 🙂

yes he mades portraits in 16th century out of foods and things

Having now better results putting in negative prompt daisies on ground

you must use negative prompt as well to get similar result. Try it

o.k.
It is good for not creatures, but on result i believe negative prompt has effect as positive prompt, in 2.1 maybe even more

[wispy nest]

What's that coming out of the sand

[kind quartz]

was it arcimboldo?

no above 🙂

[wispy nest]

Save the yellow bunny

[kind quartz]

yes

[oak osprey]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/r_ukkdnlCVe2_5yMPbu2zzDI3GaU1OC1kcwfU2u_Dw4/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684163025.0859644180ea75c11a97397f9a8aaa57617cda3.png?width=691&height=460

you are using an SD 2.1 model with SD 1.5 embeds somewhere most likely

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/KK8XeNY9fhbvz1Xv5VUgwRLAkSDgJu_CYqUlJkOkh6o/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684163023.377205bb77ca1dcc7d56baf2f8eaeb7cad08aa.png?width=691&height=460

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Huo9_tG8xNYLDBIDGufBQgrOaDXkpiYguiS-UcvqdsI/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684163023.3607757a9080905c8b71fdbc81b49523ba69f47.png?width=691&height=460

it's not easy tbh the model creators have to tag it properly

[kind quartz]

model usualy 768 or 20 21 15 14

i think model what you running is from its name

that you downloaded is 21

i never touched embeedings, so i dont know

stable-diffusion-webui\embeddings
i have it empty

so shouldnt be problem

[oak osprey]

are you trying to use Preview?

[kind quartz]

Live preview? when it generate image?

[oak osprey]

yeah, any of the generation preview windows tend to not work with 2.1

[kind quartz]

i think he means, that when picture is generated that preview. Or not @oak osprey iam confused.

[mossy cedar]

that is very cool 😄

[kind quartz]

yellow pasta creatures are working still...

[oak osprey]

give me all of your creatures

STOP. i believe you heard, give me a lot of your creatures. what i said was, give me, ALL, of your creatures.

[mossy cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-nick-offerman-gif-5153973

[kind quartz]

20 and 21 need probably more gpu VRAM. Maybe back to 15?

will perform today probably.
Lora, will never tried it probably 🙂

i mean 1.5 models SD 1.5

[oak osprey]

no need 😛 SD2.x is fine

is that 2.1? it seems like it, due to its coherent understanding of prompts

i have to throw keyword after keyword with attention++++++ modifiers+++++++++++ galore to get it to do certain things in 1.5

[earnest dune]

i think so? idk which sd im using and where to look at it

[earnest dune]

loll

[oak osprey]

if disabling a LoRA helped, chances are you're on SD2.x now and you had a 1.5 LoRA enabled

[kind quartz]

in top left corner

[earnest dune]

yep probably that

[kind quartz]

the second looks like one con in James Bond

[earnest dune]

if detail tweaker is an 1.5 lora

[oak osprey]

@earnest dune try "Matthew Broderick" prompt and if he looks like the real deal it's 1.5 and if it looks like a Wish.com knockoff version it's 2.x

[earnest dune]

such a good way to understand which sd youre using

[oak osprey]

ahahahaha

yes

[oak osprey]

yep

[kind quartz]

i bet you have artius in top right corner 😄

[earnest dune]

who me

[kind quartz]

yes

top left sorry

[earnest dune]

yes i love it

[kind quartz]

and it is 21

[oak osprey]

you would love junglerally's digital-diffusion more

realism engine is also great but requires more prompting work than digital-diffusion does, to produce the same 'magic'

[earnest dune]

is it from hugging face

[oak osprey]

artius and DD trade blows on which produces better output from same prompt/seed/keys

[kind quartz]

civitai is easier. And prefer safetensors

[oak osprey]

@earnest dune yeah junglerally/digital-diffusion

CivitAI isn't easier. Transformers AutoModel class just loads this stuff directly from HF

[earnest dune]

can you tell me the difference between .ckpt and .safetensors

[oak osprey]

ckpt is a pickle file and safetensors is a diffusers specific format that lets you ensure it won't run unsafe code

https://medium.com/ochrona/python-pickle-is-notoriously-insecure-d6651f1974c9

[earnest dune]

thank you

[oak osprey]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10282175/attacking-pythons-pickle

sorry that's a members only Medium link, this might be better

[earnest dune]

adorable 😅

[kind quartz]

fruits works

[earnest dune]

my prompt was stable diffusion as a person and i guess SD has horse legs

[oak osprey]

it's kind of incredible that pickle was ever used for publicly sharing models

what a bunch of idiots

[earnest dune]

and conjoined with a horse

[kind quartz]

blueberries

There are as well software on github for checking if ckpt or pt are safe

[earnest dune]

daisy hamster!!

[kind quartz]

daisy beeeee 🙂

using now
A cute daisies-creature

[kind quartz]

😄

[kind quartz]

still life lemon?

[earnest dune]

looks like it

[kind quartz]

i am getting darker lemon, ok i will try more light

[earnest dune]

i just got that result from typing lemonade world lmfao

very inspiring words

[stone cipher]

AI

[kind quartz]

what a refreshment

[earnest dune]

wait what did you mean by still life, the art style or the one that is used by making lemonade

[earnest dune]

got this from a songs lyrics btw

[kind quartz]

art style. painting still life theme

it is not style. can be cubism, can be anything

[karmic thicket]

A video changing tshirt colour while walking in a city roads

[crystal delta]

FAQ: How do I generate images? Is there a bot on the server?

Currently, there is no public bot on the server that generates images. There is an experimental bot available for early server members & Stable Society. You can obtain the Stable Society role by winning our weekly events #⭐｜pow-info #1087493421209485393! However, there are plenty of other ways such as the official https://beta.dreamstudio.ai/ website or by running Stable Diffusion locally using your own hardware! Check out #1080946152318443610⁠ for more details! You can also stop by ⁠#1025467151206854736 for any issues you experience while using DreamStudio or ⁠#🤝｜tech-support for any problems you encounter while installing it locally!

[kind quartz]

weird

[earnest dune]

wow

[stone cipher]

AI

[earnest dune]

i really want to eat this

[oak osprey]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/mojNeVDiSIfr1TniaOgV_dhJZ95wzV9_6EDfZf9oZIs/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684168918.047122860cd0da46765f3f6bbe5de26431ba01.png?width=1382&height=921

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/omJEoNacxmwjeYUTUNPf8IsfPEjdVPY-FFidOyg31zM/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684168570.5118427e6f13a128c06443d90b9240ab1bc3f5.png?width=1382&height=921

man, Spacewalk confused the shit out of it

[kind quartz]

yes nice

[kind quartz]

smurf's ice cream 🙂

[earnest dune]

yess

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i think i made a mistake

[kind quartz]

in shine of reflectors 🙂
It is photo like from movie making

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LowRA at -1 makes things extremely bright 💀

[oak osprey]

the clone wars

[kind quartz]

nice abstract

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more LowRA - 1

[oak osprey]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/AsRWZQuSS9ias3LH6RMjL6fj50dx7FTIwL1pOpcvXdE/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684170600.860259c775256cceea33abc1e54ce1c2d01550.png?width=1382&height=921

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/83b0BCCmBeA0IZ840x2TxkEvhpj__G2PYsZAOnlCEgo/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684170600.869457c3887f89fdb9d0494554535feb0e0f1d.png?width=1382&height=921

Crystal Caves++. --Exploring ancient underground passage with shimmering stalactites and glowing crystals--

[wispy nest]

Looks good

[oak osprey]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-ocDwa-8PlWbUgFBtuoETbGATVzKoOXmS96Px0PH7hI/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684171659.64371820ffd5e836acc5f3f331d98494d6df53f.png?width=1382&height=921

[kind quartz]

kamikadze snowmen 🙂

[weak sage]

Soooo, the more I crank up "black" in the negatives, the more of the image ends up black... any idea how to communicate that I don't want 90% of the image to be the color #000000 to the AI?

[kind quartz]

i think you are using too much (()) and [[]] can imagine can causing issues

[oak osprey]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5ZcP5QV2gTyEuXzdF-5W4X10l5NWOdYVM6nJC85p4Ds/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684172376.2448578139c4381e9b58e93e0b3ede6450a2b0c.png?width=1382&height=921

man, i found an issue in my code

i wasn't putting the positive prompt properly to the tile

now it looks so much better

[weak sage]

you was right, too much (()) caused it too be like too much CFG, even though I thought it was on benign tags

[oak osprey]

yeah you uh, need to learn how prompt attention works 😛

[weak sage]

better

[oak osprey]

tried to get a melting snowman, smiling deliriously, on a hot beach, and it does this to me

low sun angle of winter, snowy background

🇫

[wispy nest]

any controlnet experts ?

control_sd15_canny i have this model

now after updating controlnet i see these other models

way smaller

the models i have downloaded are 5 gb

what version do i use ?

the 1.45 one from the github ?

or the old one from controlnet 1.0 which is 5gb

also i try to update but it wont work

can i just use git pull on the extension folder and update it like that ?

[oak osprey]

you need to update all of them

grab like, v11e

or maybe p is production quality

[wispy nest]

ok so these are outdated then

they are from before 1.1

just making sure i can delete them because they are like 50gb total

https://huggingface.co/lllyasviel/ControlNet/tree/main/models
they are from here

fug ill just try it and see if there is a difference

[kind quartz]

I like it very

[kind quartz]

they are making angels in sand 🙂

[oak osprey]

i love this radio show

[wispy nest]

do prompt editing

try just doing a pile of snow melting on a beach

after it has the basic thing add the prompt for a snowman

like in automatic you can replace parts of a prompt after some iterations, or add aprts

[kind quartz]

is this o.k.?

[oak osprey]

i don't use sd-webui

[wispy nest]

i guess you use DF right

[oak osprey]

i use my own discord bot code

[hearty karma]

theres one thing i hate about AUTO1111

and thats the way that LORAs work

[dense tapir]

I have just switched back to auto because anapnoe doesn't work with my symlinks

not sure why, and tired of each update forcing me to lose my style as it overwrites styles.css

[oak osprey]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Z30T3BysdsFpvk0Y_4tiMMSBrgsyzGjVAaHwux2QCEs/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684175411.626238829dc53da0dd57bbd9a0327d057b520f9.png?width=1382&height=921

[oak osprey]

chattr +a styles.css

you're welcome

[hearty karma]

i just want to use a delorean lora

😢

[oak osprey]

deLoRAean

[dense tapir]

wtf is chattr? I am on Windows not Linux

[oak osprey]

there's your problem

[dense tapir]

I have to stash or delete it. No, same fucking shit on Ubuntu.

[oak osprey]

ohh

you need two git hooks.

[dense tapir]

I dual boot and it is him making changes to the .css

[oak osprey]

one for pre-pull to git stash and another post-pull to stash apply

[hearty karma]

ah yes

this is a delorean

[dense tapir]

What is a real screw me is how it can't see my models I have symlinked buto auto does.

since a fork I don't get it.

[oak osprey]

or, the preferable approach is to fork it on github and use git config -e to edit your git config, and point it to your repo instead of his.

then, remote add upstream https://github.com/whoever/whatever

git pull upstream master to merge his changes in

if you git pull --rebase it will first rewind your changes, apply his, and then apply your style changes on top. a merge is a bit nastier

[dense tapir]

Yeah, I know how git hub works but if he can't work with my symlink then I don't need to use him anylonger and go back to auto1111.

[oak osprey]

[dense tapir]

not sure why it can't see my symlink to my models

auto has no issue

[dry crow]

you can delete them as there are pruned versions that are 700mb each

[wispy nest]

thank you

[dense tapir]

autopnoe is merging with Vlad anyway so I suspect his will go bye bye.

[oak osprey]

"I was told there would be a 'casting' 'couch'?"

oops just noticed the [[legs]]

[dry crow]

here are the new ones:
https://civitai.com/models/38784/controlnet-11-models

[oak osprey]

CS1o i'm sure you know but if you wrap the url in <>s it doesn't show those <>s but also doesn't show the embed

[dense tapir]

@dry crowI sure wish we had the tiles and the styles models for 2.1

[oak osprey]

you can use a 1.5 base model to do tiles on 2.1 outputs

but yeah, agree

[rain gazelle]

I think I need to reinstall all my controlnet stuff. It's ancient.

Thanks for the link.

Looks like they're finally safetensors, too.

[dry crow]

i think we will have them in a few weeks

[dense tapir]

I have a pickled .yaml file for CN.

I finally got the author of it and ticketed on his, as I was instructed, but no answer.

[oak osprey]

i love having it create equipment

[hearty karma]

man.. .this delorean lora looks funky at the start of its life

[oak osprey]

ah yes, the big cats with whiskers coming out of nowhere

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/j2M5WLvBSSNt2hzXuJhj3Pczb9SmYz4l9XCLa3Y2bog/https/tripleback.net/public/discord/1684175704.5626307791d3d0fefe6f603858601b62e2e699c.png?width=1382&height=921

👁️👄👁️

[oak osprey]

so the bug i fixed, was putting a blank value for the positive prompt into CTU

Compel does something with nothing to create prompt embeds but it's nooot a good result

now that it passes that actual prompt value through, directly from the given image, it's a lot better

it would be super nice to have 2.1 CN models because i wouldn't need to generate 1.5 and 2.1 embeds

and likely would save memory by being able to reuse components from the text2img pipeline, in the img2img piece, maybe..

the 12GB Colab instance really struggles with my current 2.1+1.5 combination workflow

[hearty karma]

guys what does the lycoris extension do?

[oak osprey]

i wish he would converge

[hearty karma]

also apparently that delorean lora was trained at 768x768

for SD 1.5

[wispy nest]

🧐 200k? what is 200k?
Why channel icon changed?

[kind quartz]

200 000

users

[wispy nest]

in discord or what?

[kind quartz]

yes

you can search for server in compass icon and see number of members

200 742 🙂

[kind quartz]

shark

[dense tapir]

Mechanical research vessel disguised as a shark

[wispy ether]

I will never be ballin'

[hearty karma]

best spider-man i have gotten

[wispy nest]

not bad

not perfect either, but better then I'd expect for image containing both feet and hands

[hearty karma]

man... i think doing that generation screwed my browser up

my browser completely shut down after starting that gen

[wispy nest]

eh, shit happens, just restart the thing and all should be good

including console

[hearty karma]

i dont think im going to need to restart the console

thats seems to be fine

ill do a test gen just to check

[kind quartz]

would love have such but getting somehow weird

[hearty karma]

yep everything is working now

i think everything crashed because it was my first use of a lycoris model

[kind quartz]

those seems weird

[hearty karma]

what seems weird?

[kind quartz]

how to say picture above o.k. this for AI i think bit messy

rollsroyce! Dont want to drive it 🙂

[dense tapir]

You don't drive that you are driven in that.

[kind quartz]

i know just check front wind shield and lenght 😄
If driver see something closer than 20 meters, i dont know

[wispy nest]

[boreal falcon]

With this release Midjourney is kinda in trouble even more now?

the beta bot

[dense tapir]

If in trouble you mean free loaders can't free load from MJ so come here instead? I guess.

Only lasting for 1 month.

[boreal falcon]

In general if this gets as good as MJ peope might migrate since its free in the first place

People

[dense tapir]

Maybe since both MJ, and SDXL, are just for button pushers though SDXL requires a beefy card to run locally, and the bots are here for 1 month.

[boreal falcon]

True

Im hoping for Adobe to release inpainting very soon

[dense tapir]

In beta

it is pretty good for photoshop

[boreal falcon]

For Firefly

[dense tapir]

fuck firefly that stuff is shit

[boreal falcon]

Wouldnt say shit, especially more artistic stuff rather than photorealistic

But anyway its pretty much just a beta playground

[dense tapir]

Naw, @smoky oak Was on here with comparisons it is shit

[boreal falcon]

The actual beast will be unleashed later

[dense tapir]

We shall see.

[boreal falcon]

You mean SD plugin?

With A1111

[dense tapir]

No, in beta AI from Adobe in PS

[boreal falcon]

Ooh you mean the delete one?

[dense tapir]

nope, way more

[boreal falcon]

The one that deletes what you mark and replaces it with whats in the background

[dense tapir]

Look, I am saying that is just the tip of the iceberg as in beta the other ones are being worked on.

[boreal falcon]

I think there is a miscommunication 😄

[austere pilot]

people that say firefly is shit don't know firefly xdd

[wispy nest]

Show us what it can do good then

[frozen nebula]

For once I think the open source models will win in the end, top people at google and other places have said as much. They can't keep up with the changes being by the open source communities. Unless they manage to squash them by lobbying to have laws passed to force everyone to pay I think 1 or 2 years it'll all be open source.

[dense tapir]

Yeah, put up or shut up

[wraith karma]

My first somewhat decent generated image, yay

[frozen nebula]

Now down side to that is the already ridiculous price of GPUs will sky rocket

[pseudo mural]

Isn’t this good?

[wraith karma]

👌

Also

[pseudo mural]

How do you get these good images

[mossy cedar]

seems alright for firefly

[wraith karma]

1. as few keywords as possible, while informative;
2. keywords placed lile a "ladder";
3. good negative prompt.
   Also: Deliberate for the win!!

[frozen nebula]

RealisiticVision2 imo is a beast of a model that and edgeofRealism

[dense tapir]

My card can't do it that big

[frozen nebula]

Do you find Deliberate2 to be worse than 1, I experimented with it and wasn't impressed

[frozen nebula]

Tiled VAE my friend, takes a while but can go pretty huge

[wraith karma]

Idk, Deliberate 2 is kind of the only model I've used.
Several of my Discord buddies and one youtuber think that Deliberate 2 is best

[dense tapir]

Can't use it as I am 2.1

Model is coming

[frozen nebula]

Ah ok never found a good 2.1 model I liked so just haven't bothered with it much

The new model, XL or whatever its called is pretty amazing but not feasible locally yet (not even available I think?) but hopefully getting a new rig later this year

[dense tapir]

I have no want for SDXL as a trainer unless SAI suddenly surprises me and gives us the tools designed specifically to train it. Otherwise no need of sdXL

[smoky oak]

oh yeah, firefly as absolute ass at the moment lol

[frozen nebula]

Hate to lower the tone but the problem all the commercial models have is they censor everything. So they hamstring themselves from the get go. Some of the best models are trained on nsfw content even if you don't want to create nsfw images.

[dense tapir]

Agreed

[wraith karma]

That looks like some movie decorations, amazing!

[mossy cedar]

deliberate for those, does some great photoreal stuff

[wraith karma]

This looks a bit like Ciri btw

[austere pilot]

also firefly's true power won't be text2image more other stuff such as skecth2image 3D2Image creating a 3D scene and transferring to image and all these intergrated in the tools adobe already owns

[oak osprey]

leads to artifacting

[wraith karma]

@dense tapir how do you make these? What model, what prompt?

[frozen nebula]

Haven't noticed it myself going up to around 1.5k to 2k but perhaps above that it does ?

[dense tapir]

I don't have a fast card so can't do them 100%

[wraith karma]

What GPU do you have?

[dense tapir]

1060

[wraith karma]

Ohh

I get tired of waiting a bit with 1080

[dense tapir]

Something my 6gb just will not do.

[wraith karma]

Well, I have 8 gb

[oak osprey]

even at 1920x1080

it's especially noticeable if you put 2.1 on a tiled VAE

[wraith karma]

Palit Super Jetstream

[frozen nebula]

Yeah as I say don't use any 2 models

[oak osprey]

yes, but the artifacts are still there

[frozen nebula]

Did this earlier needs another upscale pass and more inpainting but that uses tiled vae

[oak osprey]

can you see it?

your image is more synthetic and so, it will be less noticeable

try to make a natural scene and stuff feels "off". another thing i noticed is that tiling the VAE leads to more deranged faces when they occur on the transition lines.

[frozen nebula]

Also tield

tiled

[oak osprey]

that's only 784x1024

[wraith karma]

Wtf, Collie bear

[oak osprey]

also, what VAE are you using? MSE 840k?

[frozen nebula]

I could easily take it bigger, that isn't artifacting your seeing imp its exposure

[oak osprey]

well if you're happy with your images, that's awesome, man. but i wouldn't recommend VAE tiling, in general, personally. it's good for people to know they're possibly enabling something that's going to reduce the quality of their outputs.

[frozen nebula]

Well as I say I wouldn't say the above is a 'low quality output' (even allowing for subjective taste) but to each their own

[oak osprey]

it's generally better results to generate a smaller native image and then use eg. BICUBIC upsampling and then ControlNet or some other 'fixer'

you upsample it to the blurry and disgusting resolution you want ControlNet to fix it at

😄

[frozen nebula]

There are numerous ways to upsample, loopback is very good as well

[oak osprey]

yeah multidiffusion as well

[frozen nebula]

Yeah that works extremely well but tbh I found that artifacts. I did these 3 tests on different upsample methods, same base image

bottom right is multidiffusion

I kind of like it least despite the added detail

[wraith karma]

Damn, all 3 images are so different

[dense tapir]

@smoky oak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBvdo3JnLX0 Google teams up with Adobe's Firefly.

[smoky oak]

oh yeah, two corrupt AI companies working together

just throw in open AI while were at it and we can kiss everything goodbye to their "good and ethical" dataset collecting

[dense tapir]

BINGO, we think alike on this one.

[wraith karma]

It's funny that Midjourney is usually thought about as supreme art AI

[dense tapir]

I never liked it as I like my art creator to not inject its own style. If you have a style, that MJ style, then you are doing something wrong imo.

[wispy nest]

Anyone figured out how to run SHAP-E locally?

[frozen nebula]

IMO Mj has gone downhill, I mean quality wise cool it can create photos but its so opinionated now, it just throws to much of its own bias in

I liked V2 myself when you could create blurry nonsense and upscale them into all sorts of outputs

[wraith karma]

Yeah.
Also MJ is really limited. I think you can't even really train it on some character like you can with SD?

SD has so much freedom it's crazy

[boreal falcon]

What makes them more corrupt than Stability AI,

The fact that they are corporations?

[smoky oak]

what lol

They are both massively censored, with huge goals and political gains from controlling the use of AI in the media, while also using crowd source testing to make better tools in house that only they will benefit from.

Also, Adobe is one of the most problematic companies out there. They shake down artists and creatives for severe amounts of money yearly just to fund their never ending program bloat. They are just trying to monopolize yet another thing in the industry, of which they will then hike their prices up once again (like they always do) and force people who want to stay relevant in the professional subsects of design to pay it

[frozen nebula]

Yep pretty much this, its why I only use the open source stuff now, won't touch a paid service

[wraith karma]

Also, RIP, Adobe Flash Player😭

[boreal falcon]

most problematic to whom? And how is someone better than this who uses Stable Diffusion which is also very controversial?

or is it just because its open source that it is justified?

[dry crow]

There is the OpenSource tool called Ruffle, that supports Flash games 😉

[dense tapir]

I wish png info worked with Controlnet

[smoky oak]

and then Open AI themselves are breaking the law, and I am just waiting for them to get nuked out of existence

[boreal falcon]

yet you use Stable Diffusion

[smoky oak]

Sure, it may be controversial to some, but being controversial and literally monopolizing a several billion dollar industry where professionals have no choice but to spend 100's yearly just to stay relevant are not the same

[smoky oak]

SD isn't breaking the law lol

[boreal falcon]

Stability AI got a lawsuit for a reason

well OpenAI too

[smoky oak]

Yeah, and they won it, for a reason lol

Shutterstock lost, cause the use of their images is not illegal

[boreal falcon]

who cares, people use those for a reason and stay for a reason not just "because they are forced"

[boreal falcon]

same with OpenAI

nobody is going to nuke them out of existence

[smoky oak]

They literally are if they are employed in a professional scene where Adobe is the pipeline, which is 98% of design professions

[smoky oak]

OpenAI is breaking the law in other separate ways

Like, you know, the "open" part

[boreal falcon]

which they dont pay for anyway

[boreal falcon]

i mean this

[smoky oak]

Open AI is supposed to be Ai for the people. That is their business model and mission. They started as Ai for the people, where they would give their research to the people. It is an open source company at its inception, and thats why even Elon musk doesn;t support them anymore

They are an open source company that is not open sourcing their work anymore because of "competition"

[boreal falcon]

and those who arent working professionally for such companies are still subscribing to Adobe CC and they arent forced to

them buying some smaller companies, some bigger ones or some startups is not corruption

and for us who profit from the products its not the biggest deal anyway

[smoky oak]

yeah it is, maybe no to you tho

[dense tapir]

The deal is that you have to or it doesn't work.

[boreal falcon]

obviously people arent not upset enough with it to leave

[dense tapir]

Screw software as a service and all companies who embrace that crap.

[boreal falcon]

with exceptions

[dense tapir]

Get you hands out of my pockets.

[smoky oak]

There are no other options. Thats what a monopoly is. People are forced to stay, or go without

I myself was in that position, and many of my professional friends still are

[boreal falcon]

they arent forced, they choose to

[wraith karma]

Because no alternatives???

[boreal falcon]

its not like only professionals that work in a studio are using Adobe CC

[dense tapir]

I think we have a troll, or a shill working the room.

[boreal falcon]

there are, but they arent good enough or convincing enough or the pipeline is established

and then they sell themselves out to them eventually lmao

[frozen nebula]

Luckily open source development will kill the big players, the real money is likely going to be in server farms

[boreal falcon]

wishful thinking that is screamed out for decades

Adobe, Google, now OpenAI, Autodesk and more are said by Open Source cultists to be obliterated

[frozen nebula]

People at those companies have said as much, open source development is just much faster and more dynamic

[boreal falcon]

and this for a longer time

and then those big ones are even deploying open-source stuff themselves

they dont have to fear open source

[wraith karma]

Wait, what is wrong with Google?

[smoky oak]

Its the reason why stable diffusion craps on Dalle 2, and Firefly.

They do not have the time, resources, or man power to keep up with the sheer amount of crap we are able to do and learn

[boreal falcon]

people have claimed that Google is about to die soon, especially after OpenAI came with ChatGPT

[frozen nebula]

As I say those models are hamstrung from the start they can't compete with models trained in the wild and the mass of extensions and bleed over SD gets from China and its efforts

[mossy cedar]

this conversation just went over a cliff

google is never going anywhere

[boreal falcon]

SD has its own niche of users, Firefly will have theirs

dont worry about that one

[smoky oak]

anyways, apprently this guy thinks that google and Adobe are not controversial companies, and that it is totally not problematic that they are working together on Firefly in order to try and monopolize AI

Probably thinks that John Deere isn't problematic, and that autodesk is a saint as well

[boreal falcon]

im playing a devils advocate here with FOSS cultists

its a game

[smoky oak]

Either this guy is a troll, or I am genuinely concerned for his safety

anyways, typically when a whole group of people well educated on a topic are in opposition to your point of view, that tends to mean you are the one in the wrong lol

[boreal falcon]

a group of cultists?

mhm

not so sure

[smoky oak]

"cultists"

bro, try harder lmao

[mossy cedar]

so now it's insults, that's not how conversation works

[smoky oak]

we use an AI image gen software, praise be thy anime tiddies I guess

[boreal falcon]

and who would have thought, on a SD server that i would have multiple people against me lol

[smoky oak]

Its ok to be wrong, I just suggest not doing it confidently, as thats when people have "problems"

nobody said that SD isn't gonna stay around, nobody said that firefly is gonna be bad, all we said was an objective truth, that goodle and Adobe have a history of monopolizing and preying on people who cannot leave their ecosystems

goodle oops lol

*Google

[boreal falcon]

this is pretty much a matter of interests, not ethics and morals between us here

i wasnt kidding when i said im playing the devils advocate

[smoky oak]

So the constant syphoning from passionate creatives who have no other choice isn't a matter of "ethics?"

[boreal falcon]

but i can also say what i really think

[boreal falcon]

both of them have kinda a monopoly status if that is what you wanted to know from me what i think

do i sh*t on them for that? No

im using both of them

it would be a liability for me to do that

[mossy cedar]

I wish there were than two phone options.. to go off on a tangent

[wraith karma]

Firefly page on Adobe website makes it look pretty impressive, ngl.
Doing AI generation + photoshop in potentially one app also seems great

[smoky oak]

exactly, you are dependant on them

We all use google and adobe crap all the time, I am sure of it. The difference here is we are not complacent about it. We know we are being screwed over

[boreal falcon]

im not dependent on neither of them

same with AUtodesk btw

[smoky oak]

Autodesk is just 3D adobe

[boreal falcon]

kinda

but still

im actually not dependent on them

i use their products for reasons

[mossy cedar]

Maxon buying up zbrush made me feel ill

[boreal falcon]

not because i want to be cool or because im dependent

[boreal falcon]

they probably would do the same with Substance if Adobe didnt do it before

[smoky oak]

nobody said this was about being "cool"

[smoky oak]

of course they would, as all of these companies want everything

and then they buy these startups, and change them from the glory they once were

I should know, a project I worked on was bought by Unity, and now its not even recognizable

[boreal falcon]

do you know what my actual issue pretty much is?

[frozen nebula]

Really if you remotely care about any of this there is no reason to use paid services, GIMP, Blender and SD local (and many more) are excellent. Anyone who pays for PS unless your a professional artist is crazy imo

[smoky oak]

At this point, I don't think we really care. You have made it clear your goal here is to oppose our ideas

[boreal falcon]

look if someone who is really heavily into FOSS and doesnt want the proprietary stuff and actually is consequent about it and also is consequent with the reasons he doesnt use those and sticks to FOSS im really fine with it, everyone according to his needs and wishes

[smoky oak]

none of us here (at least myself) have a problem with closed soruce crap. It can be massively beneficial. We have problems with how these companies force it on people with no alternatives and then take them for all they are worth

[boreal falcon]

the problem starts with those who say they are this above but actually are subscribers to other products and are also smokers and alcohol drinkers and subscribe to Netflix and what not. If they would at least say that its just because of their interests and priorities

[boreal falcon]

wdym force people with no alternatives?

[smoky oak]

To say that there is no mallicious intent behind google joining Adobe on firefly is just flat out wrong. Firefly is gonna get so good that creatives can't not use it, to which they will begin to raise its price. Its adobes whole business model. Make something decent enough to get adopted, then hike the price

[mossy cedar]

photoshop on it's own isn't a massive expense, but it's pay as you go. I get why people hate that

[boreal falcon]

there are alternatives to Google, Adobe, Autodesk, OpenAI

the question is how viable they are

[smoky oak]

Is it an alternative if its not as capable?

[wraith karma]

Wait, you complain that company makes something great and then sells it?

[wispy nest]

I just hate adobe for taking all SD and community work, including extensions , integrating them into theiw own ecosystem...

No credit given to SD or people who made extensions.
All they are doing- stealing other people's free work and making money out of it.

[boreal falcon]

and its okay, but why do also people hate on that that subscribe to other products and buy stupid stuff on a monthly basis like alcohol and cigarettes?

[smoky oak]

If you wanna work in an adobe based studio, there is no alternative to adobe

[boreal falcon]

they dont

[mossy cedar]

slippery slope I guess, price can always go up

[smoky oak]

no need to get political about addictions. Thats a messy topic, and it is monumentally insensitive to lump genuine addiction in with cooperate shenanigans

[boreal falcon]

addiction?

come on lol

is that the excuse?

[smoky oak]

Do you think that smoking and drinking are not addictions?

[boreal falcon]

not per se

not every consumer is an addict

[smoky oak]

alright, I am done

[mossy cedar]

isn't this a good time to stop all this.. getting silly now 😄

[smoky oak]

this is a waste of time

[smoky oak]

yeah, agreed

[boreal falcon]

you are excusing their double standards with "addiction"

[mossy cedar]

agree to disagree or whatever the saying is

[boreal falcon]

true

[mossy cedar]

look at the fluffy cat slug, he hates arguments

[boreal falcon]

they will integrate them into CC apps

[boreal falcon]

❤️

[wispy nest]

You can say that when they'll make their tools based on open source community work free.
Until then don't even pretend they aren't selling something they didn't make, without even giving credit to community or SD.

[boreal falcon]

why would they give credit to SD

their models dataset isnt based on SD

it would be a stupid idea anyway

[wraith karma]

@smoky oak somewhere in this discussion you started to complain that companies find their niche, make great product, then sell it for relatively high price and there're no alternatives.
But that's natural, isn't it? Usually whatever company gets to do something first, sets their own rules, that's how market works.

[wispy nest]

Tools they are using - community tools based on SD.

[smoky oak]

the amount of assumptions this guy makes is insane

[boreal falcon]

no

did you even look up on their current and future features?

[smoky oak]

Unfortunately it is, however there are different ways about going about it. There are companies that continue to innovate, and really thrive as a community, where they keep prices reasonable and do their own thing

But then there are massive conglomerates that see that a company is trying to just be peaceful, and do their own thing ethically, and they offer them so much money that they cannot deny, buy them, and then hike their prices

[frozen nebula]

None of them will get close to SD currently its months behind and hamstrung by a censored limp dataset. And MJ will always beat them to the more casual crowd. The only use PS will have for it is stuff like smart content fill and such for retouching.

[boreal falcon]

its in early beta

this state doesnt matter much right now

[frozen nebula]

Can be in beta for the next 10 years dataset suddenly won't become good

[boreal falcon]

for the more casual crowd part, it may be

although, not sure about MJ

Stable Diffusion is beating MJ if you ask me

[smoky oak]

the fact that a mullti billion dollar conglomerate decided to release such an unpolished product in beta shows that they do not have much confidence in their current tech, and just needed to get their name in other peoples mouth's to not go irrelevant TBH

[boreal falcon]

and if they keep this SD XL bot its a even bigger threat for MJ

[frozen nebula]

I agree SD is beating MJ but for casual users who don't want to muck about with python and models, MJ Is still the easy best choice

[boreal falcon]

"unpolished product" is that what you say about SD too? :X

[boreal falcon]

true

and they use it on mobile too

but then again SD might do the same now

with the bot

[smoky oak]

no? Considering its the best AI image generator available...

[boreal falcon]

and you think this will remain so

[smoky oak]

it has been, up until now, sooo

[boreal falcon]

also did you say the same months ago?

[frozen nebula]

It also has that early 90s Playstation factor where it just became the defacto cool one to use, for reasons so most people not super into AI art auto think of midjourney

[boreal falcon]

or when SD was in "beta"

[smoky oak]

sure, things can change, but as it stands, firefly is extremely behind the curve

[smoky oak]

uhhh... Yeah, actually

[boreal falcon]

i notice more influencers doing marketing for Leonardo AI

i mean more and more

not more in overall

[boreal falcon]

so Adobe Firefly is unpolished....because just so

because you dont like them

[frozen nebula]

Like the only people who will use Firefly are the captive crowd who already use Adobe products, nobody would choose it for image generation over local diffusion or other free services

[smoky oak]

Because it is extremely bad at certain things

[boreal falcon]

artists

[frozen nebula]

Yes Leonardo is excellent , I use it to generate ideas then run them through SD to make them better

[smoky oak]

if firefly was like really good, I could definitely say its cool, but its not right now

[boreal falcon]

one cool thing i like there is that you train right away on your images if you want

[frozen nebula]

Even then not for generation its garbage, a proper artist can train a model on their own work in Auto1111 and get 100xs beter output than anything firefly ever could offer

[boreal falcon]

not yet, its not even available for commercialising yet

you have that watermark when you generate as of now

its literally just a playground for a beta product

that is 2 months old

they might eventually completelly ditch Firefly because they will integrate all the features into CC apps directly

dunno if they wanna keep Firefly as it is

[smoky oak]

I will say that firefly is not bad in all aspects, but its image generation in general is unusably bad

[boreal falcon]

its behind in photorealism mostly

also ofc its mentionable that you cant use famous artists and their styles and copyrighted characters for example

that one for a reason tho

[mossy cedar]

that's worse in every way

[boreal falcon]

Firefly will get this function too

[smoky oak]

I have no real experience with the other tools besides the image generation in firefly (which is the most relevant cause of where we are) and the image generation aspect is unusably bad, genuinely

[dense tapir]

I didn't ask you nor do I care what you think as it is all subjective.

[frozen nebula]

That is why it will always be garbage, no artist reference, no likenesses, no NSFW content (even a hint of bare navel) its just a hamstrung model, same as MJ but at least they allow some wiggle room and it produces high quality images

[boreal falcon]

this breaks down to groups of consumers alltogether as some of you already mentioned more or less

[boreal falcon]

agree to disagree

but we will see in the coming months and even years

at the end of the day people have their reasons to stick or go for either of the products available for the masses

who knows if some new contender will join too

(and who it could be )

[frozen nebula]

That's the point though while they are playing catch up the competition isn't standing there with their thumbs up their butts. I have no doubt it will improve but it will never beat the current front runners. Leonardo has a chance but there development plans are odd, they seem intent on making it focused on 3d texturing and characters

[boreal falcon]

i would understand this if we talked about some small group of devs, but we talk about giants like Adobe and Nvidia

[dense tapir]

Leonardo, along with all cloud based nonsense allows no uniqueness. I want to add my own models, loras/locons/lycoris/embeddings, etc... my special sauce.

[boreal falcon]

cant you?

[frozen nebula]

A group of lead devs at google said they can't keep up with open source development. Partly cause its not limited by an overarching structure trying to monetise it, devs can get it into peoples hands fast then ideate on it live, in development terms thats priceless. What make take a team of 30 or 40 hobby coders a few weeks on SD will take the big players twice as long, running it past all the relevant departments and testing phases

[dense tapir]

No, I can't. I can't train my own model, and hypernetwork, and lycoris, and embeddings, and select how much I wish each to beused (weighting) with them.

[frozen nebula]

Leonardo (the free service) is decent for running ideas, thats it though imo

[oak osprey]

just buy a W7900

[boreal falcon]

you mean Luke Sernau

its not that easy to say tho what you said above

it is possible tho

there are factors to consider there

btw he also said that the one clear winner in all of this is actually....Meta

with the leak of Llama

[frozen nebula]

No he said what I related above, that open source collaborative development is just fast, more efficient and better at making advances. Their multi million dollar 13b paramanter models were replicated within days by random people with laptops

[boreal falcon]

he actually said what i meant above

with Meta

and someone has to read what he said carefully

yes, he said open source is developing very fast

he also says Google should work with open-source community

[frozen nebula]

No your taking the one sentence that supports your position and ignoring the entire rest of the memo. He says it helps meta cause the iterations of the LLM are being done on their model, so they can reabsorb that work. But his overall point is neither them nor Meta can keep up with open source, a group of students in Korea (I think it was) worked out a way to train a LLM on 50k compared to the multi millions it cost Meta and Google

[boreal falcon]

id still want to see what he has to say about that leaked document

[frozen nebula]

And they did it in 2 weeks rather than 2 years

[boreal falcon]

if he didnt respond already

[boreal falcon]

dont know about the case with koreans

but the idea to work with open source community isnt bad per se btw

i mean some of the big bois for example fund some open source projects and organisations and softwares already and deploy their own too

yet it still applies: Certain factors are to be considered before we talk about who is about to win

[oak osprey]

what is this argument, even

[frozen nebula]

I don't think there will be a 'winner' just different things for different people. Adobe and its ilk will be integrated into existing platforms and serve a role, MJ and Leo will cater to people on mobiles and without good GPUs, SD will remain a slightly clunky hard to penetrate thing that is more powerful than all the others when used correctly.

[smoky oak]

Jesus, its still going?

oh nevermind, it stopped

[wispy nest]

I could't bother

[ripe cedar]

Vlad's page says I need to put --upgrade to update, but what folder do I open the CMD in to do that?

[crystal valley]

FuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[smoky oak]

no idea, I don't touch vlad anymore cause of all of the issues I have had with it

[crystal valley]

there has to be a word stronger than cumming

[ripe cedar]

Going

[smoky oak]

gone

lmao

[ripe cedar]

Ded

[frozen nebula]

My girl beats yours in a fight 😆

[smoky oak]

pass tence

[crystal valley]

Zovya do you want to use my model

[smoky oak]

I like this vibe :>

[crystal valley]

I want you to blind test it vs. yours

also if u guys arent using the added details lora ur not diffusing

[ripe cedar]

you can also inverse the minimalist Lora to actually add detail too

[crystal valley]

are negative loras worth it?

I feel like, how much more detail could you possibly add

these are already godlike

[ripe cedar]

No idea I never actually tried it lol

[crystal valley]

Should I reveal my KFC special recipe o:

I'm convinced nothing can beat this model

fuck it I'ma give away the percentages cuz I'm gonna do it in civitai anyways

[smoky oak]

this is only like what, the 5th time you have said that?

👍

[ripe cedar]

Maybe he keeps breaking his own record

[crystal valley]

I know it's so depressing

no wait

Zegova's model is probably at the same level

but it cant be dreamboothed

this one can

[smoky oak]

just release it already so I can determine if its actually that good, or if its just like senblend 1.7 or whatever it was

[crystal valley]

increases are marginal, we are indeed reaching the limits

but still an increase o:

It takes about 6 hours to upload that joint

but I'ma work on it as soon as chores are done

[smoky oak]

also, after using this new anthro model, I realized just how far realism models are behind in terms of control compared to anthro models. Its kinda insane

[crystal valley]

whats that

[smoky oak]

Like I am not messing with realism cause its so much less impressive than this ne mode

[crystal valley]

I want more tools for my arsenal o:

[smoky oak]

its a furry model with a level of quality, consistency, control, and adaptability that makes realism models look like a joke in terms of capability

it can do humans as well of course

[crystal valley]

oh god... youre into furrys too?

[smoky oak]

but this models capabilities are several levels above what even Zovya can offer in terms of instruction and minute control

[crystal valley]

I cant thumb down posts for some reason

[smoky oak]

I have you blocked, thats why

[crystal valley]

r0fl

[smoky oak]

just waiting for you to get banned again

[crystal valley]

kid I got over 9000 alts

sen army, rise

https://tenor.com/view/clones-attack-of-the-clones-star-wars-gif-20468324

[smoky oak]

it really is sad that you try so hard to be in a place that keeps wanting you to leave

[smoky oak]

this is goofy, and I like it

[sterile temple]

Love that new toolkit extension for A1111. Was able to cut the garbage out of my bloated 5GB model and get it down to 2GB

[frozen nebula]

Ignore the hideous ugly hand 🤣

[smoky oak]

I like this cute little style

[sterile temple]

prompt is: conceptual abstract illustration of happy happy joy joy sunshine lollipops rainbows

[smoky oak]

haha

love the prompt

[frozen nebula]

Its an image done on Leo originally then run through SD using the JIM TERUMODE model from civit AI

[sterile temple]

I used to spend ages touching up inpainting etc. Now I'd rather generate 100-200 images and pick my fav from them

[smoky oak]

please, god, do

[frozen nebula]

Frankensteining is my thing tbh, I think you get more interesting results running through multiple models.

[sterile temple]

prompt: conceptual abstract illustration of lighten the mood

[hearty karma]

oh wow

i have 2/3

🤨

bit sus

[sterile temple]

oops, mucked up a prompt before hitting start, but getting some pretty cool gens anyway

[hearty karma]

oh i passed by that while perusing civit earlier

[oak osprey]

training 2.1 here with 56G of VRAM

extending 2.1 to have tiddies

probably not

[hearty karma]

[oak osprey]

05/16/2023 00:09:33 - INFO - __main__ -   Num examples = 224
05/16/2023 00:09:33 - INFO - __main__ -   Num batches each epoch = 224
05/16/2023 00:09:33 - INFO - __main__ -   Num Epochs = 8
05/16/2023 00:09:33 - INFO - __main__ -   Instantaneous batch size per device = 1
05/16/2023 00:09:33 - INFO - __main__ -   Total train batch size (w. parallel, distributed & accumulation) = 2
05/16/2023 00:09:33 - INFO - __main__ -   Gradient Accumulation steps = 2
05/16/2023 00:09:33 - INFO - __main__ -   Total optimization steps = 800```

the default settings are likely going to fucking nuke whatever i'm working on anyway

[hearty karma]

well he doesnt have to

its his model

thats how you get STDs

do not share the love

i dont have nitro

yeah its from here 💀

[oak osprey]

god. i trained the wrong model

GOD DAMN IT