#🏞|general-with-images

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boreal falcon
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xD

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i dont mean just nudes

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not that i saw any nude from your images lol

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except one image that indicated it, from your CivitAI site

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profile

bold cave
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lololol

boreal falcon
bold cave
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U can see all of em if u enable nsfw in the settings

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u should be able to see widowmaker's purple tiddies

boreal falcon
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O_O

bold cave
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Here it is but with Karras in lieu of Euler. Now if I hear one more time that it looks plastic, smudgy, fake or lacking detail I'm gonna staple my ballsac to the ceiling.

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thats the power of dreambooth+controlnet working as a team

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I didnt use it, but I do have cgi in the neggies

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I also like how hard the model tries to get her nose right. lol

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to catch em all

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@shut sinew and @smoky oak gone real quiet after my magnus opus dropped

smoky oak
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What? lmao

bold cave
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broooooooo

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u gotta try this tool

smoky oak
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What magnum opus?

bold cave
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its magic broh

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its magic

smoky oak
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what, the image you sent above?

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if so, you can keep that magic to yourself lmao

smoky oak
boreal falcon
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i think you are bit too hyped brother (Sen) 😄 XD

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or should i say it in Hulk Hogan voice brotha

smoky oak
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Here is my recreation in like 5 minutes in UU@bold cave

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biggest problem is the phone cable

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also, its half the res, and higher detail... hmmm

crystal bloom
bold cave
smoky oak
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hmm?

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my generation is lower res, but it has more detail for that res

bold cave
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more detail in which universe I mean lmao

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it looks buttery af

smoky oak
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well lets see

bold cave
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guess we'll have to disgree on what makes an image good

smoky oak
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more individual hairs, more eyelashes, half the res

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also way more realistic skin texture that doesn't look like a leather bag thats overstuffed

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I mean, if this level of detail per pixel is something you are after, then go off

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but I'll gladly stick to this level of detail

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or actually my bad, thats my higher res version

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this is the lower res one

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still manages to have more detail at a lower res than this lol

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lololol

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@bold caveI mean, you tell me which one has more detail

bold cave
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right

smoky oak
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waldur wide

bold cave
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if u look closely you can see how each part of the img looks different because of the tiling

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for example the mouth part looks way different than the eyes

smoky oak
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and yours doesn't have that issue?

bold cave
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its luck of the draw with the seeds. also, Im using UU too dude lmfao I told u this tool works in conjunction with UU

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the difference is that now they are consistent in pose even at high denoise

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which means if u batch a couple of them you can patch one and another

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I dont cherry pick gens

smoky oak
hardy comet
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what is this and how to fix it

bold cave
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hold on a minute

smoky oak
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like it doesn't take a genius to see a quality difference lol

bold cave
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left doesnt even look like melora

smoky oak
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I can only do so much

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if you value how much it looks like a person over the actual detail, then by all means, I understand

bold cave
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the thing I keep telling u and peter its that its easy to make anyone look good, but making a specific person look good is something else

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like everytime I post a picture of my dreamboothed girls peter comes in and provides someone that looks nothing like her lololol

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mine looks better bc thats what melora looks like

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not some random girl

smoky oak
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Perhaps thats just ause your dreambooths/LoRA's aren't high enough quality to upscale?

bold cave
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also, I can go bananas with the denoise

smoky oak
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cause I can upscale LoRA's just fine

bold cave
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they are

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another example is using hires fix with facefix

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theres a reason noone who does specifics uses facefix. yes it looks more real but its no longer the same person l0l

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im telling u that picture of melora is as good as it gets for 1.5

smoky oak
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Facefix has been dead for months, I don't know a single person that uses it

smoky oak
bold cave
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I dont do loras

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I do dreambooth

smoky oak
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then dreambooths

bold cave
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loras are less powerful

smoky oak
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yet they get better results than you are sharing? weird...

bold cave
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which get better results

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I dont see your melora

smoky oak
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oh, its MELORA

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I thought you were saying "me LoRA"

bold cave
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lmfaoooo

smoky oak
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yeah sure, I'll make a LoRA for her

bold cave
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yaaaaaas

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lets do a pepsi challenge

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on a different channel

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and get an arbiter to mask which is which

smoky oak
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sure

bold cave
smoky oak
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I shouldn't need too long to get this done

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less than an hour

bold cave
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let's get a mod to be the arbiter

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now the point is not to say that loras are bad

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but im telling u that as far as sticking with a realistic subject, mine is way more realistic than a generic that looks nothing like her

smoky oak
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also wait a damn minute

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you didn't tell me your image was img2img@bold cave

bold cave
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sit down kid

smoky oak
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Actually looks more like her than their gen lmao

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I am looking at her right now

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sen, you didn't tell me your image gen was an img2img of her lmao

bold cave
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I posted the original above lmfao

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yeh it is. I wanted to get her in her business suit

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dude stop

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you cant recreate her accurately because she's a B-list

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it looks nothing like her lmfao

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u need a lora/db to get her right

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ooooh hold on

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sytan we need to take this to a different discord. one that has The Office fans

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they know melora better than anyone. and they can judge it better

smoky oak
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ok, that doesn't look like her

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his kinda does

bold cave
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ofc it doesnt this kid's a zoomer

smoky oak
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all I can say is Sens upscale of her doesn;t look like her at all lmao

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gave her crepe skin, and ugly lips

bold cave
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im saying stop trying to generate someone who you don't even know who it is :kek:

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thats what melora looks like dude. she's milf

smoky oak
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@bold caveAlso, I am a zoomer as well, yet he and I are both basically the best in this server when it comes to realism gens, sooo...

bold cave
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this is her

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well a young one at least

smoky oak
bold cave
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she's supposed to be crackly cuz shes milf lmao

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the left even looks MORE like melora

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but lets take it to an Office discord

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I really wanna know who can make the best Jan

smoky oak
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bro, the one on the right is a photograph of her

bold cave
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ik lmfao

smoky oak
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what do you lean left looks more like her?

bold cave
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bc it's the more recognizable version of her from The Office

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this dude lmfao

smoky oak
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ok, so apparently these look the same...

Totally didn't make her 10x more wrinkly with caramel plastic looking skin, crusty eyes, and orange peel lips...

bold cave
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lmffao

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Its cfg 7

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it gets that oversaturated look

smoky oak
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and?

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oh, thats the sign of a poorly made model

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:/

bold cave
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I can do cfg 4 if u want that more true to skin tone

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the ones from senblend 1.6.3 usually go for the photostudio look

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not the candid photo look, just personal preference

smoky oak
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yeah, mine looks way more like her lmao

bold cave
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no way dude

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its bc u arent an office fan

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if you knew her as well as office fans do, you know you'd be way off

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it looks like she got a facelift

smoky oak
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yeah, cause this leather face orange peel isn't way off...

bold cave
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lmfaooo

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this is too much fun

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Oh Im also doing kate flannery next which is even wrinklier

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we can do a challenge on that one. lora vs dreambooth

smoky oak
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although, she does look absolutely great in this dress

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thats a fantastic pairing of colors between her hair and that gorgeous dress

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yes lmao

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I was just saying she looks great

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Thats the next person Sen is gonna botch with a dreambooth

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Please don't waste your time with them, they can never lose in their eyes

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even when their images are so massively off

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They aren't one to talk, more so insult

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But I am down to chat, if you'd like

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unfortunately, I do not

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I have been hurting for funds for a while now

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but I am learning python with hopes of getting a job

hasty nova
smoky oak
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vibing

hearty karma
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spider-woman :-)

crystal bloom
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Made with revAnimated Checkpoint.

boreal falcon
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imo the first one wins clearly

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if i have to compare

hasty nova
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im out of inspiration so im using a prompt generator script

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this is pretty cool, might refine the prompt

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Same seed, refined prompt.

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Nope, never used that

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It's a little standalone tool I helped make a while back that is really customizeable and flecible. Not as fancy as the actual AI-powered ones but it works just as well.

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@smoky oak how is the realism? Is it any better than the stuff I was posting yesterday?

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(for the last three)

smoky oak
hasty nova
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cool

smoky oak
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but the lighting and details still have that harsh look associated with 2.x, personally

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but they look more like humans and less like 3D models for sure

hasty nova
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Yay!

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(this wasn't trying to be realistic) a dim kitchen

smoky oak
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IDK why

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but your name

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always reads to me as "Junger lally"

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even tho I KNOW its jungle rally lmao

hasty nova
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Everyone reads it differently 😆

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Most people just call me jungle

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Though I have heard it as jungler-ally and then per perosn calls me jungler

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Anyway i gtg

smoky oak
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l8r loser

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:p

boreal falcon
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plasticity and co.

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hard to explain

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i mean there is no perfect AI image but the first one is far more natural

smoky oak
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yeah, it looks like plastic

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the second one I mean

boreal falcon
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yes

smoky oak
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my specific jam is doing realism, so it makes sense I would have an edge in it

boreal falcon
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you use your own model?

smoky oak
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used to, and I am working on my own mix again

boreal falcon
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ah okay

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i dont generate photorealistic stuff as often

smoky oak
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photo real is my jam haha

boreal falcon
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do you have any specific use for them?

smoky oak
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its where I tend to shine

boreal falcon
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like i dunno, photobashing or so

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or do you just generate them

smoky oak
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its mainly just a pass time to see how real I can get my gens to look

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well, i should say, I do not go for pure realism

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I do like some level of artistic flare, even if its minor, of course

boreal falcon
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interesting 😄

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im generally interested in what people do with AI images

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i have a bit "complex" route with AI art

smoky oak
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I did train my own LoRA in order to bring my fursona to life in a way that looked how I wanted him to in the end. I had been using a heavily edited version I made of somebody else's art until then

boreal falcon
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since i learn 2D and 3D art (including VFX and co.) and animating comes too

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and editing ofc very important

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and now generative AI is here

smoky oak
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I have done 3D art for years, but I have fallen out of my interest with it

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brb

boreal falcon
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2 of my friends had the same fate but with 2D art

smoky oak
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I am back

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I had a falling out with 2D a long time ago

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and more recently 3D

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3D was mainly cause I hate using blender and dealing with its problems that have persisted for years, regardless of huge user outcry for them to be fixed

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I realized they are not interested in making it a better experience, but rather an over-bloated one where they have more underbaked features

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for now I am learning code, with the hopes of becoming an ML engineer

bold cave
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Aight I promise I wont post this milf anymore especially since she's been my guinea pig all day but I gotta say ddim is my fav, this is using UU with CNET + seams fix

bold cave
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olivios, aitrepreneur, SDcourses, literally ALL OF THEM state lora is inferior to dreambooth in terms of subject replication

bold cave
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yeh but my question is

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or my request is if anyone has suggestions for prompts that will make the subject look more like a candid photo

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u saw the pix peter posted earlier

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that had that grain and homey look

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the ones I post all look like studio pix

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I wanna make it look more like it was taken on an iphone

smoky oak
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Ask him, I don't do images like that

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I do DSLR style realism

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well, I can do it like he did, but I do not enjoy it, and I do not do it as well

bold cave
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I know using shorter prompts for whatever reason has that effect, but from examining those prompts I see no common denominator

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it seems like luck of the draw tbh

smoky oak
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this image was one I purposely used grain on along with a specific upscaler choice to get a more crunchy look

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this is the full scope of the image

bold cave
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thats more towards what I want although it's not a good example bc it has that same orange light

smoky oak
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however, it does seem like the VAE I am using runs some form of denoise in the dark dark spots

bold cave
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the ones that look homemade have that white light look to them

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oh shit see I havent even messed with vaes

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maybe thats where the secret is

smoky oak
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good prompting is the best resource

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Do not fall for it, it is a scam

bold cave
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adding "natural light" and removing the photostudio prompts seems to help achieve a more candid look. this is dreambooth and no hires fix nor upscaling yet

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also pushing the initial resolution as much as possible helps a lot in creating native details, although probably requires digging thru more seeds since this tends to distort subjects more

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a little too blurry for my taste

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bro use a custom model already l0l

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absolute perfection

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Haters: "it LoOks SmoOtH anD plAstiC"

The image:

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if over-detailing an image is possible then it's obviously possible to detail an image just right. All with 1.5 and my sb1.6.3 model with dreambooth

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just adding natural light to the prompt changed the style, although frankly, I like my previous cyberpunk photostudio style too. Yall are just picky af

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nah. I like marilyn monroe tho

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o shit she's an example of someone I wanna fine tune come to think of it

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this dude wants to pay me to do a dreambooth tut, I might do monroe as the subject

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delete that atrocity now

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an insult to the OG sex symbol

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the asian girl I posted is pretty darned good. But I plan on doing 4k wallpapers of every one of my 30+ dreambooth subjects

modern kernel
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clown

bold cave
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now that this tool is up and works so damn well I might get it done in a heartbeat

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before, I had to frankenstein gens in photoshop and its super timeconsuming

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I think he's saying that ur monroe looks like a clown l0l

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marilyn monroe + chucky hybrid

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that is a much better monroe although she's got a fivehead

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I'll record a video tut since I'm getting paid for it. It'll be lengthy tho

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Im revealing the dark secrets of my art. I havent seen youtubers use my method and as you can see it works quite well

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sky's the limit with these models

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there ya go

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but yeh I plan on making the perfect monroe

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no

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with dreambooth

smoky oak
bold cave
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bro u cant be serious. its deliberately overdetailed as satire

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if the image isnt so bumpy it looks like a topology map its too plastic for u guys

smoky oak
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no, thats not the case lol

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there is more to realistic skin than just texture

cursive yacht
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"overdetailed"?

smoky oak
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Some goofy term they came up with to try and come out on top

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I wouldn't worry about it much lol

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They like to make a mockery of things they don't understand

boreal falcon
boreal falcon
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lol

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But luckily Blender isnt by far the one and only in the 3D art world

hasty nova
wispy ether
ivory furnace
red forge
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/food planner

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Imagine/prompt: food planner

crystal deltaBOT
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FAQ: How do I generate images? Is there a bot on the server?

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mystic marlin
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I'm trying over here on the ControlNet Tile+Ultimate SD Upscale method. Details come out good but still working on perfecting this very image here.

mystic marlin
shut sinew
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Everything kek
Im also trying this atm and got some complications

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might be because im trying it on realistic stuff

mystic marlin
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I'll drop the metadata from the image in a second that basically gives everything.

shut sinew
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AMkannapog thanks man

mystic marlin
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woman, deep red hair, ponytail, vivid blue eyes, wearing blue jacket, modern, portrait, sharp focus, high contrast, RAW Photo, intricate details
Negative prompt: ((low quality)), ((disfigured)), ((bad art)), ((deformed)),((extra limbs)),((close up)), blurry, out of frame, extra fingers, mutated hands, ((poorly drawn hands)), ((poorly drawn feet)), ((poorly drawn face)), ((bad anatomy)), (((bad proportions))), ((extra limbs)), cloned face, (((disfigured))), extra limbs, (malformed limbs), (((long neck))), large breasts, watermark, nsfw,
Steps: 15, Sampler: DPM++ SDE Karras, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 3501969932, Size: 2048x1536, Model: lyriel_v15, Denoising strength: 0.5, Clip skip: 2, ENSD: 31337, Mask blur: 4, Ultimate SD upscale upscaler: 4x_foolhardy_Remacri, Ultimate SD upscale tile_width: 768, Ultimate SD upscale tile_height: 768, Ultimate SD upscale mask_blur: 16, Ultimate SD upscale padding: 32, ControlNet 0 Enabled: True, ControlNet 0 Preprocessor: tile_resample, ControlNet 0 Model: control_v11f1e_sd15_tile [a371b31b], ControlNet 0 Weight: 1, ControlNet 0 Starting Step: 0, ControlNet 0 Ending Step: 1, ControlNet 0 Resize Mode: Crop and Resize, ControlNet 0 Pixel Perfect: True, ControlNet 0 Control Mode: Balanced, ControlNet 0 Preprocessor Parameters: "(512, 1, 64)"

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It's a jumbled mess so read carefully. Haha

shut sinew
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wait actually i could have just taken that myself

mystic marlin
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Actually yeah, you could considering the image I uploaded was straight from the Webui.

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Just drop it right into PNG info and bam.

shut sinew
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Yeah idk, its still early? My best excuse kek

mystic marlin
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Understandable, it's 4 AM here and I'm still freaking up. lol

shut sinew
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11 AM here omegalul

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my upscaled stuff (right) comes out as blurry mess with weird skin details dead

mystic marlin
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RIP her complexion.

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It still looks good though.

shut sinew
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i mean there isnt a lot of detail in the shirt but it makes it worse thinkies

mystic marlin
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Yeah it can be finnicky to play with this, I've been noticing that faces get super burnt if I go too high on the upscale multiplier.

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Anything over 3 on the Lyriel model burns the faces.

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Just makes women look....old....

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Or even like they've been doing a little bit of that Walter White blue stuff.

shut sinew
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maybe it depends on the model you have running while upscaling hmmm

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like a lot

mystic marlin
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Someone said that on a video that the model may make you have to play with some stuff a little.

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Like the same settings won't work on every single model.

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I'm starting to believe that....

shut sinew
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i just dont know where the skin stuff comes from dead

shut sinew
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Yep pretty much tried every setting now, cant make it work PU_Sadge

shut sinew
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only running controlnet for upscaling seems better but still not perfect PU_Sadge

dry crow
shut sinew
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I get the best results atm without controlnet, at least for realistic stuff, but thats also all i tried it with so far

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Are we still going? yikers

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Well then yes

shut sinew
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Dude looks creepy af

neon crystal
shut sinew
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You really got a problem if youre still onto that, why cant you deal with me having my personal opinion

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My opinion wont change by you sending pretty much the same stuff over and over lol

neon crystal
bold cave
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yo we really need to have a #challenge-a-diffuser channel

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so we can dump all the flame wars and debates over which model is best in that cesspool waluichad

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This needs to be my wife

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and I don't even find gingers that hot. To me they're like watered down blondes but this babe is something else

bold cave
bold cave
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Here's a really cute one of gabi belle, another one of my dreamboothed models. If yall want tips on how to use this tool I can put up a video TuT on YT since I was literally banging my head against a wall all of yesterday using this tool so I have gained some valuable knowledge on its usage lol

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@smoky oak Thank you also for teaching me to add bokeh to my prompts, that's gonna be a new staple for my gens. It's funny how things work out so much better for everyone when we work together instead of nitpicking each other's work. Also, adding "heavy makeup" to the neggies creates wonders like the one above

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I'm adding some of these upscales to my model showcase in my profile if yall want the prompt data although a video tut would explain it better

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I especially love the one above because gabi always wears heavy makeup in her videos. someone should send this to her and ask her if this is what she looks like al naturale lol

bold cave
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As if I needed another reason to feed my diffusing addiction. Now cranking these out is so freakin easy omgg..

bold cave
smoky oak
bold cave
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I can't keep up with the AI world at this point

bold cave
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People are putting up new models on civit like crazy

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I have to make SB 1.7 now lmao...

smoky oak
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I know, a new version of the best realistic model I've ever used was released last night, I haven't tested it yet

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I will have to compare those two models that you just sent to see if they beat the model that I'm using

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I love how you were insisting that you had the best model, and how realism could not go any further with 1.5, and now here you are saying that you're behind the curve and you need to make a new one because the realism got better with 1.5... lol

wispy nest
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good stuff as always, pete. lots of those red heads look pretty damn convincing

bold cave
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bruh. this is almost a 17GB model

bold cave
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Thank God this shit is fun otherwise I wouldn't be doing it 🤪

smoky oak
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Good point, I will be testing those two new models that you sent along with the new version of the model that I'm using right now to see if there's any meaningful improvement

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@bold cave if you send me your prompts and DM, I can see if there are any other changes I'd make, because there's still something the slightest bit off with the texture of skin in your images. However if you're happy with how it is currently, then I can totally understand that

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You know, I don't mean to be that guy, but where are the moderators?

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I've had two tickets open for well over half a day, one of them's minor, but the other one is literally somebody sending discord links to illegal servers in DMs because they got hacked, and neither have been accepted

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not here in chat

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thats what the mod ticket systems are for

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actually, looking DMs, the guy who was sending links seems to have gotten his account back

smoky oak
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Thats the size of an SDXL model

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👁️

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OH @bold cave

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Its a 1024x model

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no wonder

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damn, 16.6 GB is gonna take some time even on my fast ass SSD's and internet

acoustic moth
smoky oak
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yeah it is

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I have already run tests and it has not been fairing well

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its typically one of the worst

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These images are mostly from my new go to, which just released a new version, so I will be testing that vs these two new models that sen sent

acoustic moth
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these look great, ill stay posted to see what your findings are

smoky oak
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I will be testing the model I use vs these 2 new ones extensively

acoustic moth
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are you using controlnet at any point in your workflow?

smoky oak
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nope

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no inpainting either

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well ok, the fair skinned princess has a little inpainting

acoustic moth
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just prompt testing then nice, definitely interested to know and start training models over

smoky oak
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from my tests, yeah, it gets beat in almost every way by modern realism models

acoustic moth
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hey i saw your message about wanting to use controlnet to create poses, trying something similar did you end up figuring anything out

smoky oak
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not saying its bad, just that its not the best anymore

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here is another image from the model I use

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I am just worried how damn long comparisons will take with that massive mega mix model

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not everything is a competition man, and i am not saying realvision isn't good, its just not as good as newer options

acoustic moth
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ah ok, im just experimenting with controlnet still, not getting the results im seeing in guide videos

bold cave
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How is that even possible? I mean, I tried it once but it was ass

smoky oak
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gotta know what you are doing, I have seen some people do it

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alright, all new models are downloaded

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doing a 4 way test

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model I use vs the new beta version of it, vs fantastic mix, vs that ultra mix

bold cave
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Ditto. I'll check out this 1024 model to see what's what

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Yo can u pass the links to the newest ones

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But if it's not compatible with any 512 model, then it's ass. I'm sorry

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And my original statement prevails. 512 might actually be near its ceiling

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Aight less talk more testing. Time to debunk some theories

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No lmao

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Its a new one

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Training a base model takes a shitload of money

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its 1024

smoky oak
#

I am I about to test to see if thats the case

shut sinew
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The problem with realistic models and the discussion here is that people seem to not see the difference, like they never actually saw real humans kek

smoky oak
#

I am doing a 5 way test actually

fringe pecan
smoky oak
#

Alright, first 5 way test is commencing

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this is gonna be so slow with how huge these models are bro

shut sinew
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yup thats the issue

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most models are fed with heavily edited pics

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so nothing looks real

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Like yes your pics look like taken with a phone in 2015, but thats just to hide the imperfections of AI

smoky oak
#

jesus christ man

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fantastic mix took 13 seconds to load, ultra mix took 29

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ok, so

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ultra mix looks horrible-

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and I am not sure whyyy... hmmm

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also, fantastic mix is not realistic at all @bold cave

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looks like rendered anime

bold cave
#

yea some of them are a huge waste of time

wispy nest
smoky oak
#

fantastic mix is right

bold cave
#

For some reason, I dont remember why, I immediately discarded RV 2.0

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It had a weird CG effect or some thing I didn't like

smoky oak
#

the ultra merge loosk horrible

bold cave
#

that saves me some time

smoky oak
#

what is this

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its supposed to be a picture of a guy lmao

acoustic moth
smoky oak
acoustic moth
# wispy nest

looks great, using controlnet for the poses or something else?

smoky oak
#

alright, first test is not looking good

acoustic moth
smoky oak
#

ultra mix is unusable at these settings, which disqualifies it

fantastic mix looks terrible, and the new beta version of the model I am using does indeed look more fake like people where saying

smoky oak
#

I have done dozens of tests between them, 2.0 is always almost identical to 1.3, while 1.4 has a little more pop and tonality

bold cave
#

Im glad Im not alone in that

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SB1.5 had RV1.4 which was the bomb but when I tried 2.0 I was like...wtf?

smoky oak
#

1.4 is for sure the best real vision

acoustic moth
#

ill need to get 1.4 then

static tusk
wispy nest
smoky oak
shut sinew
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edge of realism and analog madness are better imo

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but probably prompt depending

smoky oak
#

it took 2nd place in the last test

shut sinew
#

yup makes sense

smoky oak
acoustic moth
shut sinew
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Do you have edge of realism in your test too?

smoky oak
#

ah, I forgot to rename it

smoky oak
acoustic moth
shut sinew
smoky oak
#

1.4 came out second to last

acoustic moth
#

lol

smoky oak
#

Alright, I can't keep holding on to my secret model

shut sinew
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RV isnt bad, there is just better stuff out there now

smoky oak
#

the winner in my tests has been Cyber realistic 2.0

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Its been consistently the best in all of my tests

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My magic model is cyber realistic

bold cave
#

Aaaaand we're off to a bad start with the 17GB model

shut sinew
bold cave
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I don't care how detailed your model is, if you can't get the face right of the most successful female artist in history, it's shit

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let alone that

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it cant do taylor swift

smoky oak
#

Alright, i am gonna be testing Cyber Real, Cyber real beta, 1.4, edge of realism, and ultra mix

(Fantastic is disqualified cause it looks like barbie dolls)

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I am also gonna get rid fo cyber real beta actually

shut sinew
smoky oak
#

its just worse cyber real 2.0

bold cave
#

It could also be that these models are so different that our go-to prompts dont work here

smoky oak
bold cave
#

having to re-engineer prompts seems like a pain in the ass

shut sinew
#

looks way more solid than the previews thats for sure

smoky oak
#

It has consistently won my tests for realism and wide reaching realism

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so realism for humans, and wide reaching for animals

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also, those are jpg compressed versions of my images, those are all about 4k native

bold cave
#

Here is the same model without using 1024

smoky oak
#

This is what the detail on her face really looks like

bold cave
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bro @smoky oak I'm telling you this model isnt 1024

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its still 512 based

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and that taylor above is miles ahead of a 1024x1024

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Maybe he trained 1024 but somehow adapted it on a 512 space? idk 🤷

smoky oak
#

alright, I have everything I need

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We are doing cyber realistic, real vis 1.4, edge of realism, and the mega model, any suggestions for other models?

bold cave
#

Let me finish my tests with the 17gb one. If its not 1024 then it will be fully blendable with SB

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I honestly think adding too many models might ruin it

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DUDE

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look at this upscale

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No fucking way!!!!!!

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This is endgame

smoky oak
#

looks blurry IMO

bold cave
#

She looks less like swift, but SB can get celebs down pat

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Still for a base model looks insane

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So if I blend both of them I might have the best of both worlds lolol

smoky oak
#

what do you mean a base model?

bold cave
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Like just 1 model without experimenting on merging it

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merges always come out better

acoustic moth
bold cave
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Im gonna do a three way test. 17GB/SB1.6.3/And a blend between both and see which produces the best results

shut sinew
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you can just look up what i posted through discord shruge

shut sinew
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I still dont know what kinda problem you got with me kek

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Always the one asking

smoky oak
#

peter just comes off as having a problem I think

shut sinew
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Maybe english isnt his 1st language

smoky oak
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I think thats just how he is

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it isn't, I think french is?

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Peter, whats your native language?

shut sinew
#

Then it probably makes more sense

smoky oak
#

ahhh, my bad

shut sinew
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You always sound like you want to fight me

smoky oak
#

but yeah, I had the same feeling at the start boto

shut sinew
smoky oak
#

but the more I have hung around him, I'm just chill

bold cave
#

brazilians are like that trust me

smoky oak
#

YOU'RE GOING TO BRAZIL!!!

shut sinew
bold cave
#

theyve earned their reputation huehue

smoky oak
bold cave
#

Edgeofreal looks best

acoustic moth
# acoustic moth .

i trained a model with this face, any way to use controlnet or anything else to get more full body poses? right now its only faces

smoky oak
#

I wills ay, realvis 1.4 does load by far the fastest

bold cave
#

I aim to devastate

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Bro stop wasting ur time

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17GB is it

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I dont even have to keep testing lmfao

shut sinew
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ill make a comparison too with my prompt

smoky oak
#

what are you suddenly doing different?

bold cave
#

THE MODEL

smoky oak
#

oh crap

bold cave
#

the 17GB model is all you need

smoky oak
#

Ultra mix just handed the others their ass

bold cave
#

its not 1024 is what Ive been trying to say

smoky oak
bold cave
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so its compatible with all my 512 1.5s

smoky oak
#

ok, ultramix wins hard here

bold cave
#

Interesting. edge of real is the worst one here

rugged pendant
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accidentaly made this

smoky oak
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I specifically asked for a dreamy and blurry background, and only ultra dud that

smoky oak
smoky oak
rugged pendant
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i got that from normal lol

shut sinew
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Im sure he didnt mean it that way

acoustic moth
#

he didnt mean it like that, youre good

smoky oak
#

I specifically asked for strong background blur, and an upper body portrait, not a full body portrait

acoustic moth
#

you ever test full body portraits?

bold cave
smoky oak
bold cave
#

look at what happened when I added ambient occlusion to the prompt

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thats not even upscaled dogg

smoky oak
#

I have to give the slight edge to ultra mix on that one as well

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real vis is way too overprocessed

acoustic moth
bold cave
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The censorship bot will probably block them from posting

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but let me finish my testing and I'll find some

smoky oak
#

this one is a toss up between ultra and cyber IMO

acoustic moth
#

those longshot faces thomas

smoky oak
#

they would be fixed with upscaling

acoustic moth
smoky oak
#

actually, I am gonna run an upscale on the top right image in those

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it has been from my last tests, I am testing new options

acoustic moth
acoustic moth
smoky oak
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they very much are not

shut sinew
smoky oak
#

real vis looks the worst here, too overprocessed

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cyber has a blown out sky

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Edge of real and ultra mix look solid, but I like the more cinematic colors on ultra

shut sinew
#

with a more stylised prompt

acoustic moth
smoky oak
#

i am removing realistic vision from the test again, as its still just giving worse results IMO

smoky oak
#

the differences ARE the comparison lol

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you give identical everything and see how much they deviate lol

bold cave
smoky oak
# bold cave

now you are finally starting to get into that realism area

acoustic moth
smoky oak
#

still not QUITE there, but that is the most realistic so far for sure

bold cave
#

I am super tempted to cut the testing short and just go for the new model

smoky oak
#

I am liking it so far

bold cave
#

but I have to go through with it. I am super pumped to see if a mix will be better or worse

shut sinew
smoky oak
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oh! I am gonna test to see how well it plays with one of my LoRA's

acoustic moth
smoky oak
#

but I probably cannot send the results here lol

shut sinew
#

also as i said, high res fix

bold cave
#

Im gonna have to retrain all my 20+ dreambooth models oh dear...

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and all of the new models are gonna be 17gb a pop lmaoo

smoky oak
acoustic moth
smoky oak
acoustic moth
#

over 1024 overkill? or 4k is good

bold cave
#

never

shut sinew
bold cave
#

I always go for optimal, not convenient

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Dreambooth on this model is gonna be insaiyan, IF it works

acoustic moth
acoustic moth
shut sinew
acoustic moth
smoky oak
smoky oak
shut sinew
smoky oak
#

I am using it for these high res comparisons

acoustic moth
smoky oak
#

I just disqualified 1.4

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cause it just looks too overprocessed

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We are doen to cyberealistic, edge of realism, and photo real ultra

bold cave
#

this is the exact same last prompt but with SB1.6.3.... honestly.... it's not that far behind. It's still solid as fuck to be honest

acoustic moth
# smoky oak

ah ok i see, how would you achieve a 2x highres like boto mentioned earlier

shut sinew
#

another stylised prompt

bold cave
#

After SB1.7 comes out, we can finally say we have a model that's better than MJ v5 😈

acoustic moth
smoky oak
#

we already have plenty of models better than MJ lol

bold cave
#

its not even out yet fool loooool

midnight owl
#

how are yall getting such realistic images? I'm having trouble getting anything good out of practically every model I've tried besides everything v4

midnight owl
#

what model do you use?

smoky oak
#

I am actively testing them right now lmao

#

midjoruney has a post processing filter that brings down the realism

shut sinew
#

on the grids we post you can see a few more names

bold cave
smoky oak
#

these are considered peak realism out of MJ V5

bold cave
#

try this one for now brutha

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There may be vram limitations tho

bold cave
#

are those really from v5

smoky oak
bold cave
#

damn. maybe Ive been hallucinating too hard

smoky oak
bold cave
#

well MJ just screwed themselves over by removing free trials

smoky oak
bold cave
#

its only a matter of time before theyre left in the dust

smoky oak
#

WTF am I even looking at

bold cave
#

ok its still pretty damn good

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the one peter posted looks like an actual movie still

smoky oak
bold cave
#

so credit to mj. not saying its better

acoustic moth
bold cave
#

but its still pretty powerful

shut sinew
#

with a custom mix in

smoky oak
#

it is :/

bold cave
#

something's fishy but who cares. we are all team SD here

smoky oak
#

I am just going off of the top results that come up with MJ V5 photo realism

#

MJV5

acoustic moth
smoky oak
#

while the detail is great on those, the faces are still decently deformed on the black women

shut sinew
smoky oak
#

and then people are calling these "extreme realism"

which translates to blur everything so much that you can't tell

shut sinew
#

2005 is calling they want their camera back

smoky oak
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I have no interest in generating low res compressed and messy images

bold cave
acoustic moth
#

can you make consistent characters in mj to the same degree as sd?

smoky oak
#

These images are just not as good as people think they are

bold cave
#

MJ has no dreambooth. need I say more

smoky oak
#

THOUGH

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I MUST SAY

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MJ has this very specific image style of somebody through a window, and these look incredible

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Now those, I can see why people say MJ looks amazing

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but in just normal portraits, it drops the ball

shut sinew
bold cave
#

this is my biggest beef with them

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you cant test v5 unless you cough up some cash

smoky oak
#

these just don't look realistic, even with all of the media posts of "OMG!!!!!!11!!1!!! MJV5 looks PHOTO REALISTCI!?!?!"

bold cave
#

they can go fuck themselves, AI is free by nature

bold cave
#

not saying they're better again

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just saying theyre still pretty good

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there can be. a lot of things are open source and crowdfunded

smoky oak
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There is nothing realistic about the depth fall off from the lens, or the flawless skin, or inconsistent lighting

#

but anyways, I digress

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MJ's recipe is just blur it so much that you can't tell

bold cave
#

that's what crowdfunding is you knucklehead

smoky oak
#

except MJ is built off a base level of Stable diffusion, which is free and open source, and community driven by thousands of people getting paid 0

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Stable diffusion is nothing without its community lol

#

I used to be a customer of MJ back in V3, and they themselves said they used stable diffusionf or a base gen, then blurred it, then applied their own latent upscaling to it, and then put a post process color filter on it as well as a VAE that could attempt to fix the issues introduced by their latent upscaler

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they are from months ago, and I am not in their server anymore

shut sinew
#

Dont they also edit the prompts you put in to add more detail?

smoky oak
#

yes

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they also have a blacklist longer than a marathon

bold cave
#

exactly

smoky oak
#

I have heard they fixed that

bold cave
#

not to mention their wussy-ass censorship

smoky oak
#

but I left MJ cause they were making it nearly impossible to generate anything that wasn't G

not PG

but G

bold cave
#

really. did their censorship get even worse

smoky oak
#

When I left, it was so bad that words like "Blood orange" like the fruit, would get your generation privilege's taken away from "trying to skirt our necessary censorship"

bold cave
#

woooooooooow

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I even heard that people flat out got their subscription revoked

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what a spineless pitiful company

smoky oak
#

Want a fighter whos bruised and wearing bandages? too violent

bold cave
smoky oak
#

want a bodybuilder who is working out shirtless?

Shirtless men are too NSFW

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like, it would generate men with shirts on IN POOLS

bold cave
#

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

smoky oak
#

MIDJOURNEY BRO

#

I used to pay for midjourney for like 4 months

bold cave
smoky oak
#

what? lmfao

bold cave
#

they were revolutionary in the AI field

smoky oak
#

no cencorship?

bold cave
#

now they are just the laughingstock

#

bruh stop feeding peter when he's in full troll mode

#

peter just likes to stick to his ignorance

smoky oak
#

yeah, I agree, I'm just gonna stop on that end

bold cave
#

EVERYONE knows you cant do anything even remotely sexual in MJ

#

he could google it

smoky oak
#

protecting things for your platform is legit cencorship...

bold cave
#

but he would rather be a knucklehead and be confidently incorrect

#

know the difference between opinion and fact

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fact = MJ is censored

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opinion = MJ sucks

smoky oak
#

yes, it is a fact

bold cave
#

I am not responding to him anymore

smoky oak
#

The fact is, MJ is censored heavily

bold cave
#

until he backs off from troll mode

smoky oak
#

thats funny, MJ removed the ability to generate politicians for a hot moment, which is literally cencorship to protect political views and political morals... Which is cencorship

#

They just chose to remove and add the ability to what you generate, which is by definition, a form of cencorship

#

Anyways, this is just a waste of time now

#

just move on bro, this is a waste of time

#

extremely unfortunately, thats just the way open source things work, and there is no changing that

#

literally nobody has said anything about you being a troll for stating that people will use this for bad

#

yeah, we weren't talking about illegal use of AI

midnight owl
smoky oak
#

we were talking abotu how midjourney censors their gens, community, and reddit, which is a fact

#

I agree, the Brazilian thing they said was problematic

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not cool at all

rain gazelle
#

hope everyone is having a nice day

smoky oak
#

hope you are as well

oak osprey
#

4k image from SD has duplicates, but incredibly high quality. i love it still

rain gazelle
#

yo

oak osprey
#

nailed it

#

thats supposed to be amber heard as alice lmao

oak osprey
#

yes

bold cave
#

this can be fixed in many ways

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outpainting, inpainting, latent coupling

oak osprey
#

outpainting could work but this is from a discord bot i work on so i'm not sure how to get masks and stuff in there super easily

bold cave
#

ooooh I see

oak osprey
#

yeah i like reinventing my own wheels so i can learn more and do exactly what i want with the tool instead of try and figure out how to extend eg. stable-diffusion-webui

rain gazelle
#

Amber Heard.. hmm ok, interesting choice.

oak osprey
#

i do reuse libs where it makes sense

rain gazelle
#

Challenge accepted.

oak osprey
bold cave
#

ah fuck amber heard is a fox

oak osprey
#

she is pure evil but yeah very nice looking

#

try a hybrid face combo of Jennifer Connelly and Amber Heard. if that woman existed in real life she'd have all the roles

bold cave
bold cave
oak osprey
#

i see what you did there

smoky oak
# bold cave

your images are definitely starting to look more realistic

bold cave
#

ty~!

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I actually forgot to turn on the CNET on that one lmfao

#

and that one believe it or not is the one test where SB1.6.3 beat the 17GB model

oak osprey
#

i know it's all highly opinionated but can you all provide feedback on my aliases for these schedulers. i'm sure Euler A could have a better preset name than "fast"

bold cave
#

SB1.6.3 is no joke. It is a pretty solid model

oak osprey
#

i feel so boomer. what is SB?

bold cave
#

my own model. its in my profile. I am testing it vs a brand new model that is outperforming it in almost all tests

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my plan is to merge that model with the new one. I just need to know what percentages to use, thats why Im doing some tests

oak osprey
#

interesting. could add it to my discord bot and you can just sling large batches at its queue

bold cave
#

there ya go

rain gazelle
#

ok got distracted

#

amber heard, alice in wonderland... let's go

oak osprey
#

whatever you do, do not try Millie Bobbie Brown (that gal from Stranger Things)

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unless you want the WEE-WOO's at your door step

smoky oak
#

oh god lol

oak osprey
#

how dare you use non-carbon neutral sources of entertainment to generate Greta

smoky oak
#

lmfaooo

#

we might be getting solar panels, in which my AI generations are 100% free lol

rain gazelle
#

welll.. that was a fail

oak osprey
#

my friend prompted "Andrew Tate in Prison, taking one for the team" which is how we found out that "taking one for the team" is a metaphor SD understands all too well

smoky oak
bold cave
#

im willing to do an amber heard dreambooth

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then I'll blow it out of the water

smoky oak
oak osprey
rain gazelle
#

the amber likeness is kinda tough

oak osprey
#

i was using urpm NPCDryadSmug

smoky oak
#

AH

rain gazelle
#

I'm also not that familiar with what she looks like, honestly.

oak osprey
#

i'd buy that is her, fwiw

smoky oak
#

@bold caveRace to create A LORA/dreambooth of amber?

rain gazelle
#

nah i can do better

#

put me in coach

bold cave
#

yaaaaaaas

#

let me finish the tests

#

im getting sidetracked af lol

oak osprey
#

derpcat put me in coach

#

"your ticket is first class"

rain gazelle
#

oh man they just keep getting worse

#

Does that look like her at all?

oak osprey
#

looks nearly identical to her

#

yours I mean. mine is a hybrid of amber and jennifer

rain gazelle
#

nice well there ya go

bold cave
#

I keep trying to upscale this mongol babe but she keeps deviating too much from the original

rain gazelle
#

Which, rather

bold cave
#

CTU

oak osprey
#

weird. my scales never change

bold cave
#

controlnet tile upscaler. Im hoping the acronym will catch on

rain gazelle
#

Try a simple SD Upscale at .1

oak osprey
#

oh

rain gazelle
#

up to maybe .25

oak osprey
#

that's great if you're wanting animu

ivory compass
#

good day

oak osprey
#

I'm ashamed to say but I have a command that queries gpt35 turbo with a prompt that describes how stable diffusion prompts work, and I can generate a random number of these... they're usually better than anything I can come up with and it's with fewer words in the prompt lmao

#

the Alice in wonderland series was prompting that with the theme "amber heard as alice"

smoky oak
#

@bold caveAlright, starting my training, data set secured and tagged already

bold cave
#

so is this gonna be a competition or what

#

cuz I want it to be. We can test SB1.7 vs ur model while we're at it and let the people decide which amber is best

rain gazelle
#

the more cartoony I go, the less Amber I see...

oak osprey
#

currently battling an OAuth issue with threads so i'll be back in a bit to help out with that

smoky oak
#

@bold caveAlright, its done

#

time ti test

#

oh boy, you have your work cut out for you lmao

#

this worked really damn good lol

oak osprey
#

the fine-tuning?

#

ok my fix is good to go 😄 was using cached OAuth ticket for reconnecting to websocket, shame on me

#

@rain gazelle mine has gone the complete opposite direction toward hyperrealistic

smoky oak
#

I'd say my Amber Heard LoRA worked pretty good

oak osprey
#

boy i wish she were easier to root for, as a human. she would do great as Alice, with that face.

oak osprey
smoky oak
#

I traied it to be keyword dependant, but the keyword is "Amber heard" so

oak osprey
#

eg. if you try to get Elon Musk out of it now, does it make him female/amber heard-like?

#

oh

#

yours and Sytan's make her look stoned

#

i can hear the vocal fry and stoner mannerisms from here LUL

#

hmm, why no preview

oak osprey
#

oh i didn't have alice in those keywords 😄

#

i forgot

smoky oak
#

Ambiller Hearilliesher

rain gazelle
#

I was just running some random stuff, but I can try Amber again...

#

I was doing cartoons again. 😛

oak osprey
#

wonder how well this model knows the members of the 1990s girl band, TLC

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T-Bone, Left Eye, and Chili

#

nervously pretends he had to google those names

#

what the heck happened

rain gazelle
#

I'm not that familiar with her so I'm not the best at determining likeness....

#

let me see

oak osprey
rain gazelle
#

This look like her?

oak osprey
#

oh i watched the entire johnny depp trial and that one kinda looks like she used a Snapchat filter

rain gazelle
#

Didn't she have red hair?

oak osprey
#

she seems to have so many "episodes" she goes through, yeah probably red hair seems easy enough to imagine

#

Greta Thunberg?

#

some of the deformations, man. if i met her in the woods i would definitely die from the Siren's call

#

did you inpaint for that?

#

great result without that then

#

i put your img through the img2img pipeline

#

settings

rain gazelle
#

Any guess who this was supposed to be? Gave her kind of an Asian flair...

oak osprey
rain gazelle
#

superhero realm... Marvel, not DC

oak osprey
#

oh, i was also pretty happy with the result of Mia Sara. she played Sloane in 'Ferris Buellers Day Off'

#

using 1970s picnic at the park kodachrome polaroid keywords at the end for that soft focus

#

the polaroid keyword sometimes adds edges etc

rain gazelle
#

can't get the costume...

#

hmm... Mia Sara...

#

I'll poke my loaded models to see which know her.

oak osprey
#

this isn't very close to her likeness, fwiw. it's got the basics but she has slightly more cartoony/anime-like features than this

rain gazelle
#

I kinda wanna try it as a game... guess the person. haha

#

I'll start w/ an easy one.

oak osprey
#

Ray Jeno

#

Dreamlike Photoreal has its upsides for this prompt but tbh the face is Wish.com version

smoky oak
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I am pretty proud of my Amber Heard LoRA

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not bad for 15 minutes of work lol

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@bold cave

oak osprey
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my friend would loove it. he's always trying to get more 'realistic' images with eg. stretch marks/light scarring

bold cave
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however this looks like it's going to be a while because I am planning on redoing my entire regularization image catalog which is 1500 pix with the SB1.7 model

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I still have yet to test the blend to see which percentages work better, but the challenge is on

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we need to find out how the judging system is going to work tho. We need a mod to anonymize the pictures and put them up for votes

rain gazelle
oak osprey
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interesting idea, a channel where each user's posts are ranked against their own posts

rain gazelle
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how bout this?

oak osprey
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@rain gazelle Bill Nye?

rain gazelle
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nope

bold cave
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lmfaooo

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u uncultured swine

oak osprey
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he has a bowtie tho

bold cave
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thats alek trebek rest in peace

rain gazelle
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you got it!

oak osprey
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that's no alex trebek. where's the moustache?

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he is a BRAND

bold cave
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????

rain gazelle
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Ok... easy one...

bold cave
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aaahnuld

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cmon man

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who doesnt know who arnold is

rain gazelle
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oh my gosh... this one... LOL

bold cave
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lmfaoo

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the lord of the rings guy

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Ik ive seen him

smoky oak
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makes me think of that one youtuber

oak osprey
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that's the guy from Wilfred

bold cave
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oh wait no

rain gazelle
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I love the ones that are like... off. LOL

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Yep that's him!

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Elijah Wood

bold cave
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oh it is

rain gazelle
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how about:

bold cave
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adam sandler

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just a really shitty one

oak osprey
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omg if you squint that's Andrew Sandler

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erm, Adam

rain gazelle
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last one of this generation set:

bold cave
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zooey deschanel

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dang im good

rain gazelle
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dang, speedy mcgee over here

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ok i'll run some more

smoky oak
oak osprey
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are you always squinting or something?

bold cave
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lmaoo

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yeh that elijah is way too skinny

oak osprey
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wonder if any AI can reproduce Bruce Rivers, criminal attorney

bold cave
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you can reproduce anyone ma boy

oak osprey
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suit guy looks like young version

bold cave
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just need to finetune

oak osprey
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i mean without fine-tuning

bold cave
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then no

oak osprey
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😄

bold cave
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even B-list celebs the AI gets wrong

oak osprey
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you dont know that

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LMAO b-list. it gets Ellen Degenerate wrong

bold cave
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lmfaoooooooooo

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there u go

rain gazelle
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New set will be ready in about 5 minutes. 😛

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Anyone venture a guess? 🙂

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no one?

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thought that was an easy one 😄

neon crystal
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That fat assistant guy for Iron Man?

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Crossed with Ronald Reagan

smoky oak
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lmaooo

wispy nest
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looks like Dick Nixon to me